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mikebspeedracer
10-07-2012, 04:38 PM
so because munford and sons are the flavor of the month they deserve to headline? cause they have earned that, right? they totally deserve to headline the number one festival in the world. and as much as people try to hate on some of the previous headliners like jack johnson, the killers, the kings of leon, kanye west, and the black keys; im pretty sure they all had atleast 4 albums out and had played the festival multiple times before. or in kanye west's case he had already headlined lollapalooza.

Bumblebee
10-07-2012, 05:21 PM
Extreme longshot:

-last week they announced a Nov 10th Hollywood Bowl show
-they'd make more money doing arenas than what GV could offer them(figuring radius clause)
-the "image" requirement for subs is different than headliners. Some hipster backlash is now present.
-Is most of their audience one that doesn't want to buy a 3 day pass to a festival?

microcuts
10-07-2012, 07:49 PM
Is a radius clause even all that significant anymore? The festival sells out in 5 seconds regardless of if Pink Floyd is headlining, or Big Bird.

concertgoer
10-07-2012, 08:00 PM
Come on now we all know that Big Bird would be a sub at best...

SepaGroove
10-07-2012, 08:08 PM
Mumford and Sons do have the number one album in the U.S. right now, but I just can't see them headlining yet.

nathanfairchild
10-07-2012, 08:14 PM
2 years ago they subbed. i could see them getting the bump to headliner.

Bumblebee
10-07-2012, 10:15 PM
Is a radius clause even all that significant anymore? The festival sells out in 5 seconds regardless of if Pink Floyd is headlining, or Big Bird.

There's been 2013 official Hotel/GA packages from under $770/person available for months now, either weekend. GV is in the hotel business just as much as the concert business. M&S play a major full length LA show just a few weeks before GV announce the lineup and expect people to fork up for those pricey travel packages.


Mumford and Sons do have the number one album in the U.S. right now, but I just can't see them headlining yet.

I could name 5+ Coachella headliners that wish they could move as many tickets as M&S will in the SoCal market in 2013. They can and will make more money doing their own tour and already have a conflicting LA area show.

suprefan
10-07-2012, 10:22 PM
Extreme longshot:

-last week they announced a Nov 10th Hollywood Bowl show
-they'd make more money doing arenas than what GV could offer them(figuring radius clause)
-the "image" requirement for subs is different than headliners. Some hipster backlash is now present.
-Is most of their audience one that doesn't want to buy a 3 day pass to a festival?

The audience is a good chunk of the ones that go to coachella. Look at everyone who saw them in 2010.
Is there something wrong with playing The Hollywood Bowl in November?
Image means nothing.
They make LESS money doing arenas. They need to play outdoor amphitheaters to make the real money.




All in all, its not happening anyway, so we should stop beating a dead horse for now....... Its not that it wouldn't ''work'' It's just that maybe GV doesnt feel they ''need'' them to play/headline. Lolla will have them for sure, Outside Lands, Sasquatch, and probably ACL too.

stinkbutt
10-07-2012, 10:28 PM
Don't they only have 2 albums?

mikebspeedracer
10-07-2012, 11:11 PM
Don't they only have 2 albums?

yes, that is why I'm curious to how they could possibly fill a 2 1/2 hour set without playing their entire catalog twice

stinkbutt
10-07-2012, 11:14 PM
Since when do headliners play 2 and a half hours?

Mugwog
10-07-2012, 11:18 PM
Since 2003

mikebspeedracer
10-07-2012, 11:24 PM
roger waters? lol i may of exaggerated a bit but come one they have 2 albums, theres no way they could fill a major festival set with 2 albums unless they really like to start jamming out up there and turn a 4 minute song into a 14 minute jam.

aguadulce
10-07-2012, 11:57 PM
I dont think Black Keys played much more than 90 minutes last year.

Mumford and Sons sold 600,000 records in their first week - I could see them headlining.
They had a giant crowd last time. With 2 albums you could play 90 minute shows. They
could throw in some cover songs too.

greghead
10-07-2012, 11:59 PM
Don't they only have 2 albums?

Yes, and they're both quite terrible.

Bumblebee
10-08-2012, 12:44 AM
Is there something wrong with playing The Hollywood Bowl in November?

They make LESS money doing arenas. They need to play outdoor amphitheaters to make the real money.

Name a past headliner that played a full length, full sized venue in the LA region between late October through to March of of the new year? This excludes the last minute Jay-z booking anomoly, short Xmas sets, short charity sets and warm up club shows. Leonard Cohen was allowed a major LA show the same week because of his aging demographic.

The topic of radius clauses will pop it's head up in every lineup prediction thread. IMO, all acts with a major full length LA appearance between mid October and March will almost certainly not appear on the lineup come January.

At it's most extreme, clauses would be mid October to late July(some Lolla contracts were upwards of 6 months before the event and 3 months after). M&S management had a choice between $2m for W1&W2 or however much they can make in the LA area during those 9 months with a gaziilion selling album and tour.

Bumblebee
10-08-2012, 12:46 AM
Since 2003

Strokes and Dre only did an hour each.

Mugwog
10-08-2012, 01:15 AM
You were doing it wrong then.

nathanfairchild
10-08-2012, 06:47 AM
Dr. Dre only has two albums. He headlined.

heart cooks brain
10-08-2012, 06:50 AM
he was also only on stage for about 10 minutes.

SmellyBath
10-08-2012, 01:05 PM
I'd be incredibly bummed if they were a headliner and have my doubts of whether they have enough respect to garner that position. I mean sure some folk/power pop bands have headlined before but when Jack Johnson headlined the landscape of popular music and artist obtained by GV was different. How could you bill them higher than Hot Chip or Grizzly Bear when both of those bands respective albums this year have received loads more of critical acclaim? Honestly Tame Impala deserves it more than they do but they will be Outdoor sundown Saturday I'd guess. Regardless, boo to this possibility.

Mugwog
10-08-2012, 01:13 PM
KROQ wills it so

Miroir Noir
10-08-2012, 01:29 PM
These fucking guys sold 600,000 albums their first week? Holy Christ I am out of touch with popular taste.

aguadulce
10-08-2012, 01:31 PM
I'd be incredibly bummed if they were a headliner and have my doubts of whether they have enough respect to garner that position. I mean sure some folk/power pop bands have headlined before but when Jack Johnson headlined the landscape of popular music and artist obtained by GV was different. How could you bill them higher than Hot Chip or Grizzly Bear when both of those bands respective albums this year have received loads more of critical acclaim? Honestly Tame Impala deserves it more than they do but they will be Outdoor sundown Saturday I'd guess. Regardless, boo to this possibility.


How could you bill them higher than Hot Chip or Grizzly Bear ? How about due to popularity and album sales.

Tame Impala outdoor sundown Saturday spot - I doubt that.

TomAz
10-08-2012, 01:36 PM
These fucking guys sold 600,000 albums their first week? Holy Christ I am out of touch with popular taste.

Welcome to my world.

mikebspeedracer
10-08-2012, 02:54 PM
i think it just comes down to kroq playing them every other song so a bunch of teenagers think its really popular and buy the album. they did the same thing with Linkin Park a few years back. Also im sure a bunch of teenage girls think they are hot like nsync, backstreet boys and every other boy band in the world thats been popular based on looks, so they buy it just because they are boy crazy. then you end up with a overinflated 600,000 records sold in the first week. when in reality most of the people that bought that album are probably still in high school and too young to even attend coachella, so to wrap this rant up, expect them to headline when their next album drops because by then those kids that are buying all of their albums up will be 18+ and will be able to goto coachella.

ps i also think this is a way to get headliners for less since they payed the black keys half of what they payed Radiohead.

TomAz
10-08-2012, 03:23 PM
oh come on they're not that bad.

Mugwog
10-08-2012, 04:16 PM
When they played in 2011, a girl I was dating really wanted to see them after we had spent the whole day wandering around seeing so much great music. We got to Mumford and Sons and found a bunch of friends by that huge space daisy thing, a few listening, others clearly bored. Maybe it was the paper we ate or maybe it was just how terrible M&S were, but it basically led to a "This is boring and there are no lasers, lets go back to the Sahara" Then Animal Collective came on and we clearly did not eat enough paper to appreciate that. So hopefully they put some more interesting things on the stage, but I doubt they will. #Coolstorybro #420

DaFunkyPrecedent
10-08-2012, 05:04 PM
They'll headline if they play...they wont do a sub again.

Ardentbiscuit
10-08-2012, 06:16 PM
I could imagine them being a cross over headliner with Stage Coach, but who knows?? Right? I'm probably completely off here.

Bumblebee
10-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Dr. Dre only has two albums. He headlined.

Stone Roses only really have 2 albums, have headlined international festivals, and still skip most of the last disc.

high5sareawesome
10-08-2012, 11:23 PM
All in all, its not happening anyway, so we should stop beating a dead horse for now....... Its not that it wouldn't ''work'' It's just that maybe GV doesnt feel they ''need'' them to play/headline. Lolla will have them for sure, Outside Lands, Sasquatch, and probably ACL too.

I'm with Suprefan on this. Plus, their set in 2011 was boring. No need to bring them back anytime soon.

Ardentbiscuit
12-12-2012, 02:27 PM
It all seems plausible.





Mumford And Sons Can't Believe They All Got Each Other Mandolins For Christmas

LONDON—According to sources close to the English folk-rock quartet Mumford and Sons, the band’s members were surprised to discover during their annual Christmas gift exchange Wednesday that they had all gotten each other new mandolins. “I love my mandolin so much that I decided this was the year to introduce Ted [Dwane], Ben [Lovett], and Winston [Marshall] to this wonderful instrument,” said lead singer and guitarist Marcus Mumford, whose bandmates confirmed they each independently decided to buy each other mandolins with the exact same thought in mind. “To be honest, I thought at least some of the 12 mandolin-shaped packages would turn out to be banjos, dobros, or buzuqs when we unwrapped them. But I can’t say I’m disappointed when I think about the amazing sound we could create with this many mandolins.” Mumford added that the coincidence was at least an improvement over last year’s exchange, when each of the four musicians went home with three copies of the band’s debut EP, Love Your Ground.

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MotorAve
12-12-2012, 04:52 PM
They're playing. They aren't headlining. But they certainly could.

suprefan
12-12-2012, 05:04 PM
They're playing. They aren't headlining. But they certainly could.

We'll see........

Bumblebee
12-12-2012, 06:06 PM
They're playing. They aren't headlining. But they certainly could.

What SUBheadliner sold out 36,000 tickets several months before the festival?

malcolmjamalawesome
12-12-2012, 06:12 PM
This thread is predicated on the idea that Mumford and Sons are "possible headliners" because of anonymous speculation by nobody that they could be headliners.

But then again .....





























ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE

Dede' Arneaux
12-15-2012, 06:43 AM
Don't they only have 2 albums of over-rated folky cod oirish fiddle-de-dee sounds?

Yep - that's about right :puke

mikeoley
12-15-2012, 07:22 AM
Any time a band gets KROQ notoriety music snobs label them as "bad". KROQ also plays a lot of Rage, NIN and Radiohead. Get over it. Mumford is catchy pop folk that's easy on the ears and different enough from anything else that's out there in the limelight. I've been to bluegrass festivals and heard much better than Mumford yes, but that doesn't make them "bad".

If Kings of Leon and their lack of anything emotional on stage can headline so can Mumford.

Eddie S.
12-15-2012, 07:46 AM
If Kings of Leon and their lack of anything emotional on stage can headline so can Mumford

But do we want them to headline?....NO

mikeoley
12-15-2012, 08:37 AM
I agree. But you're not going to get 3 huge headliners. So put Mumford, Phoenix, eminem and the killers in a group and pick your poison. especially if GV booked the Stones. They're going to take a significant chunk out of the budget. Just being realistic is all.

Bob_Loblaw
12-15-2012, 10:15 AM
I agree. But you're not going to get 3 huge headliners. So put Mumford, Phoenix, eminem and the killers in a group and pick your poison. especially if GV booked the Stones. They're going to take a significant chunk out of the budget. Just being realistic is all.

With the money GV has made, I can see this being the year they have the three huge headliners. If anything, we may see Mumford in a 2011 Strokes slot next to the headliner. Mumford may headline at Bonnaroo or even OSL, but I just don't see it happening at Coachella.

Dede' Arneaux
01-09-2013, 10:12 AM
Mrs DA reckons they'll be headlining but wont reveal a source

Please no :puke:poo

bdb23
01-11-2013, 01:42 PM
Dr. Dre only has two albums. He headlined.

The headliner was Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg. The two combined, not just Dre is what it read on the poster.

Snoop = 11 Solo Albums, 4 Collaboration Albums
Dr. Dre = 2 Solo Albums, 3 Collaborative Albums (NWA)

Total = 20 Albums.