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elephant6!
05-29-2012, 08:42 PM
Okay now that Tupac hologram hit, are concerts going to forever be changed by the possibility of resurrecting deceased ledgends? Like, are we going to be seeing hologram Jimi Hendrix headline anytime soon?

Look up Hatsun Miku, the holographic japanese pop star who SELLS OUT arenas in japan.

I'm a little skeptical about the whole idea of this, it seems a little impersonal to be used as a performance norm.
What do you guys think.

TomAz
05-29-2012, 08:47 PM
I think $250,000 is a lot of money.

Neighborhood Creep
05-29-2012, 08:52 PM
There was a Coolio hologram on Tosh.O this evening

PlayaDelWes
05-29-2012, 09:00 PM
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Cost: F.O.B. factory $750,000 plus $185,000 for a high speed printer
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I think $900,000 is a lot of money.
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TomAz
05-29-2012, 09:06 PM
Concert holograms: engine of the new economy

JustSteve
05-29-2012, 09:06 PM
Tupac was not a hologram.

nyarlathotoats
05-29-2012, 10:31 PM
I don't think this will become the norm of shows. Seems to be the opposite effect of what a live concert is supposed to be.

PlayaDelWes
05-30-2012, 05:41 AM
Seems more along the lines of something that will be in all of our houses and offices in 20 years.

heart cooks brain
05-30-2012, 05:54 AM
i already bought hologramme.com

gonna cash out big time.

Tikiman
05-30-2012, 06:06 AM
Seeing how the Tupac hologram lost it's luster very quickly by the 2nd weekend, based on the high current cost I would think promoters would not want to take the chance on basing shows on it.

baily
05-30-2012, 08:07 AM
I 100% agree with elephant6! and have been stating to others regarding the japanese show he speaks of. That proves that people will pay to see a 'band' that isn't live.

Expect to see the following tours coming

Bob Marley - the owners of his rights will do anything to make a buck

Jimi H. - they'll redo old concert footage with a new twist

The Doors - the money is just too easy to rake in

TomAz
05-30-2012, 08:30 AM
I don't think it's entirely clear just who owns Bob Marley's older catalog.

JustSteve
05-30-2012, 09:03 AM
you cannot compare the crazy japanese culture to the rest of the world. they buy used panties out of vending machines for fucks sake.

SepaGroove
05-30-2012, 09:55 AM
People are all about making money. If the companies that own the rights to the music of dead legends can make millions off of doing a hologram tour then they'll do it.

I think we can for sure expect a Michael Jackson hologram in the near future and possibly others.

grannock
05-30-2012, 11:13 AM
Um guys, you are all talking about simple projections, technology that has been used for the better part of a decade. Holograms are impossible to project without a finite reflcting cloud; good luck creating that environment outdoors in the desert at night.

Phantasma Del Mar
05-30-2012, 01:35 PM
They're just using "hologram" to describe the Pepper's Ghost technique, not actual holograms. Given that specific usage of the term, yes, I think this will become a widespread thing. I'm sure Vegas is already all over this.

grannock
05-30-2012, 04:45 PM
So no one has ever seen a projection on glass during a music show? Ratatat did this last year right? They did at bisco, it was just obvious what they were doing because the glass was at the front of the stage.

hurryupmode
05-30-2012, 07:12 PM
This may or may not become more common, depending on the costs and tech. It can take a long time to design/program, etc, so I wouldn't be surprised if such shows were pretty expensive. Also, I'm not sure about the quality of the Tupac "hologram" since I didn't see it in person, but I've seen a Hatsune Miku show and there were definitely technical limitations based on line of sight, so if you were too far back or to the side of the projection it didn't look right or you couldn't see it at all.

mountmccabe
05-30-2012, 07:28 PM
i already bought hologramme.com

gonna cash out big time.

Did not know you were British.

elephant6!
05-30-2012, 08:53 PM
For this purpose, I'm using the word hologram to express any sort of visual representation of a dead musician for concerts. I know Coachella actually used a projection, but Hologram is just an easier term to use.

TomAz
05-30-2012, 09:41 PM
That would include flashing up a picture of John Lennon or whoever on the video boards. You need a better definition.

nyarlathotoats
05-30-2012, 09:56 PM
That would include flashing up a picture of John Lennon or whoever on the video boards. You need a better definition.

Agreed. I think hologram, i think projection based life-like object.

Mugwog
05-30-2012, 11:37 PM
Why can't we just go back to the 80s and 90s and make an animatronic version of everything?

Animatronic Tupac and Biggie rap off? The finale is, they shoot each other and explode into cash money for the audience. Everyone will be amazed.

darkjustice
05-31-2012, 12:12 AM
chumpy thread

guedita
05-31-2012, 02:49 AM
Can we please more seriously analyze baily's assessment of the inevitable Bob Marley Hologram tour because the owner to his rights will do anything to make a buck?

Will the tour be called: "BOB MARLEY: ANYTHING FOR A BUCK?"

TomAz
05-31-2012, 01:08 PM
BOB MARLEY: ONE LOVE, ONE MILLION BUCKS

Somewhat Damaged
06-01-2012, 04:14 AM
Why can't we just go back to the 80s and 90s and make an animatronic version of everything?

Animatronic Tupac and Biggie rap off? The finale is, they shoot each other and explode into cash money for the audience. Everyone will be amazed.

Would be better (and more accurate) if Suge Knight came out to shoot them both instead. When was the last time he appeared on stage? Exactly.

Mr. Dylanja
06-01-2012, 12:35 PM
BOB MARLEY: THE PROFIT

Bumblebee
06-03-2012, 09:14 PM
Marley estate owns his name/likeness and would control any halogram tour.

Same way the Presley estate controlled the tourseveral years agao that was the original 70's band and big projections of Elvis from the 73 Hawaii telecast raw footage. RCA had nothing to do with it.

Miroir Noir
06-12-2012, 01:39 PM
Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison. (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jim-morrison-and-jimi-hendrix-estates-working-on-holograms-20120612)

We are hologram Janis Joplin and hologram Kurt Cobain away from making that dorm room poster a reality, people!

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
06-12-2012, 04:10 PM
Why can't we just go back to the 80s and 90s and make an animatronic version of everything?

Animatronic Tupac and Biggie rap off? The finale is, they shoot each other and explode into cash money for the audience. Everyone will be amazed.

Just like this?

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