It Rubs The Lotion On Its Skin: A Thread About Dating

[TomAz]

vulvae

[marooko]

unit300021, read this part again.


That's how I met my ex-wife.

[Gundam]

Yes you do.

Noooooo!

[romanticizer]

I used to get really down about how vile men and dating are but I feel fine now. Maybe that is resilience or maybe I have become such a cold hard bitch I don't care anymore. I would like to think it is 80/20 mix.

I haven't felt the pitter patter of my heart in a long time. What I have learned this year, however, is that lust and genuine interest are really easily confused things. This has been the problem for myself and many of my friends the past year. I have been single now for the past 3 months and have effectively isolated myself enough to be stoked about it. I have been celibate for over a month as well because I'm over the casual sex thing. I want someone to actually know me really well (and care about what they know) before I feel comfortable being naked in front of them or having them fuck me. Am I asking too much?

[BROKENDOLL]

I used to get really down about how vile men and dating are but I feel fine now. Maybe that is resilience or maybe I have become such a cold hard bitch I don't care anymore. I would like to think it is 80/20 mix.

I haven't felt the pitter patter of my heart in a long time. What I have learned this year, however, is that lust and genuine interest are really easily confused things. This has been the problem for myself and many of my friends the past year. I have been single now for the past 3 months and have effectively isolated myself enough to be stoked about it. I have been celibate for over a month as well because I'm over the casual sex thing. I want someone to actually know me really well (and care about what they know) before I feel comfortable being naked in front of them or having them fuck me. Am I asking too much?
Maybe you should break it down to selling a bit here and there instead of asking too much in one lump setting.

[chairmenmeow47]

resuming smitteness.

[Robin]

resuming smitteness.

CURSED!!!
:P

I need to fall out of smittenness. It's not healthy for me.

[M Sparks]

unit300021, read this part again.

OH MY GOD I MIGHT NOT SPEND THE NEXT 50 YEARS WITH THIS PERSON SO I SHOULDN'T WASTE MY TIME!

[romanticizer]

Maybe you should break it down to selling a bit here and there instead of asking too much in one lump setting.

Fair enough. Disregard anyway. I'm PMSing to the enth degree and can't explain half of the crazy town things I have felt, said, thought, or done in the last three days.

[amyzzz]

resuming smitteness.On the Today Show they were discussing attitudes women should have once they reach the age of 30, and not getting carried away with romantic relationships was one of them. You're just about there, Ivy.

[TomAz]

"enth"

[HotHamWater]

On the Today Show they were discussing attitudes women should have once they reach the age of 30, and not getting carried away with romantic relationships was one of them. You're just about there, Ivy.

Damn. Dissed by amyzzz?

[thelastgreatman]

Amy also thinks that 9 out of 10 kinds of sex/affection are gross and weird. I'm not sure that it's a great idea to take relationship advice from someone with the sexual development of a pre-teen.

[amyzzz]

lol, Randy is right. I don't care about sex much right now. BUT it was not my advice, in any case.

[downingthief]

I would rather die than to ever not care about sex.

[amyzzz]

I'd rather live.

[locachica73]

I would rather die than to ever not care about sex.

I feel the same way. I keep expecting that I will hit the age soon where companionship is more important, but I just haven't gotten there yet.

[Robin]

Now I'm wondering if I should just give up on companionship and just have sex.

[downingthief]

I feel the same way. I keep expecting that I will hit the age soon where companionship is more important, but I just haven't gotten there yet.

Same with me. I'm still a horny bastard. :)

[locachica73]

Robin, It's pretty much how I spent my early 30s, it worked out pretty well. Now I have both which is awesome!

[Robin]

I really don't feel like getting an STD test more than once a year, though.

[amyzzz]

The only times I've been really horny have been times when I've been mentally ill or on drugs, so horniness is just a sign to me that something is wrong. So I guess that does not help.

[locachica73]

Even in a committed relationship I would continue to get STD tests once a year.... I have trust issues though.

[Robin]

I do get them once a year.
Not sure if my insurance would cover more than that, though.

I'm due for another test in a couple months. If I come up positive on anything, those 2 guys I've been with in the past year better watch out for my wrath.

[algunz]

Same with me. I'm still a horny bastard. :)

It keeps getting better with age too, but I think I may have a problem though.

[downingthief]

It keeps getting better with age too, but I think I may have a problem though.

Damn straight!

[locachica73]

It keeps getting better with age too, but I think I may have a problem though.

Agreed!!!

So what is the age where it starts going downhill? 50's? I am going to get as much in as I can before then.

[Robin]

It keeps getting better with age too, but I think I may have a problem though.

Then I can't wait to grow up!

[thelastgreatman]

Does anyone else imagine that Amy's vagina is somehow in the shape of a frown?

[downingthief]

It keeps getting better with age too, but I think I may have a problem though.

What do you mean by "problem"?

[GuyInTucson]

Does anyone else imagine that Amy's vagina is somehow in the shape of a frown?

A bearded frown.

[thelastgreatman]

It should be renamed Swanson

[TomAz]

I don't imagine Amy's vagina at all.

[thelastgreatman]

I picture it like The Ark of the Covenant.

[downingthief]

I picture it like The Ark of the Covenant.

Your face will melt if you see it?

[amyzzz]

It depends on which way you look at it.

re: frowny face

[thelastgreatman]

Your face will melt if you see it?

I was thinking more "hasn't been opened in a millennium."

[TomAz]

And comes with a list of things you're not allowed to do.

[amyzzz]

It is open for business one day a month!

[thelastgreatman]

... what in the flying fuck does that have in common with The Ark Of The Covenant, Amy?

[amyzzz]

Nothing, I'm just stating how things are, not trying to justify your weird metaphor.

[algunz]

What do you mean by "problem"?

I am entirely too self-indulgent.

[thelastgreatman]

Show of hands, guys--if your wife made a rule that she'd allow you access to her uninterested, grimacing vagina one day a month... wouldn't you just never bother? I mean, you could be fucking a fake pussy that's probably better lubricated and more talented.

[MoSetsfire]

I'd cheat on her. Wouldnt even feel bad about it either.

[locachica73]

I am entirely too self-indulgent.

That's a problem????

[Hannahrain]

Wait for me. Wait wait wait.

It, too, will forever be ignored by top men.

[amyzzz]

Take enough anti-depressants and you just don't care about a lot. I care more at this point that I'm different from my peers and not so much about missing out sexually. I do miss the LSD sex a little maybe.

[algunz]

That's a problem????

Not yet.

[downingthief]

Wait for me. Wait wait wait.

It, too, will forever be ignored by top men.

Hannah FTW!

[downingthief]

Not yet.

Indeed...a good problem to have.

[Miroir Noir]

I'd cheat on her. Wouldnt even feel bad about it either.

A potentially more sensible and ethical route would be to discuss the matter in an attempt to arrive at some sort of mutual accommodation or to terminate the relationship if necessary.

[locachica73]

A potentially more sensible and ethical route would be to discuss the matter in an attempt to arrive at some sort of mutual accommodation or to terminate the relationship if necessary.

I knew I liked you when I met you!

Agreed, my ex husband chose to go the same route as MoSetsfire suggests... Come to find out it wasn't that I didn't like sex, I just didn't like it with him. It worked out better for everyone in the end... well me at least, the chick he screwed got knocked up and then started cheating on him.

[amyzzz]

I'd cheat on her. Wouldnt even feel bad about it either.Can I watch?

[downingthief]

Can I watch?

So, u don't like having sex, but enjoy watching...interesting. :p

[Robin]

Porn turns me on.
Maybe it'll turn her on.

[amyzzz]

I reserve the right to change my mind at any given moment.

[guedita]

This is a general query: does viagra enhance a woman's sex drive?

[malcolmjamalawesome]

This is a general query: does viagra enhance a woman's sex drive?

I am a genuine fountain of information regarding sildenafil and its effects for treating female sexual dysfunction.

[guedita]

No, I mean for a woman with an average or already high sex drive, would popping some viagra just make her go wild?

My friend and I have been locked in a debate about this for a while. But apparently you have to have a scrip to get viagra.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

The short answer is: maybe, but probably just as a placebo effect. There were double blinded, randomized, placebo controlled trials in which Viagra demonstrated an increase in clitoral blood flow and arousal. However, there was not a statistically significant effect on libido, as Viagra works soley on vasodilation and blood flow, with no direct effect on emotional or psychological aspects of sexual dysfunction.

[amyzzz]

That's an idea.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

And yes, you have to get a prescription. And no, your insurance won't pay for it.

[guedita]

The short answer is: maybe, but probably just as a placebo effect. There were double blinded, randomized, placebo controlled trials in which Viagra demonstrated an increase in clitoral blood flow and arousal. However, there was not a statistically significant effect on libido, as Viagra works soley on vasodilation and blood flow, with no direct effect on emotional or psychological aspects of sexual dysfunction.

huh. Good to know.

[guedita]

And yes, you have to get a prescription. And no, your insurance won't pay for it.

We considered trying to see if any of the older people at our bar would be willing to give us some spare Viagra pills, but then my friend got too chickenshit to try and broach the subject tactfully.

[amyzzz]

Any guy can get it if he asks his doctor.

[guedita]

It's arguably more fun to try and get it from old farts at a dive bar, though.

[locachica73]

It's arguably more fun to try and get it from old farts at a dive bar, though.

Old farts at dive bars are rarely offended by anything. I was sitting at a bar on Friday by myself and this 70 year old english man came and sat by me, we had a nice convo about his family and then somehow he decided to inform me of all the young men who are now coming down with throat/mouth cancer from going down on women with the HPV virus.

[kitt kat]

I was really expecting to talk to "hot babes" at Coachella, and no "hot babes" said anything to me.

I instead got disappointed again by the stupid hot guy I was seeing who only wanted to hang out with me because I would share my weed with him. I am just too nice to stupid people. Need to be mean and say FUCK EVERYONE and just turn into a rolly poly ball.

[chairmenmeow47]

i did not find viagra to be all that different from normal.

also ladies, please please PLEASE get tested even if you're in a relationship. not just a trust thing, but it can take on average 10 years for cancerous strains of HPV to result in a bad pap.

[kitt kat]

GET THAT SHOT THING IF YOU STILL CAN

[getbetter]

I was really expecting to talk to "hot babes" at Coachella, and no "hot babes" said anything to me.

I instead got disappointed again by the stupid hot guy I was seeing who only wanted to hang out with me because I would share my weed with him. I am just too nice to stupid people. Need to be mean and say FUCK EVERYONE and just turn into a rolly poly ball.

I was actually surprised you didn't say fuck off to me when i ask if you were kitt katt at jeff mangum last night.so yeah live up to expections now I'm worried that handbananna isn't going to be funny in real life.

[romanticizer]

Like I said, I'm celibate but I have been accused of being addicted to sex and having an over the top sex drive. I think it's relative to the person though.

[romanticizer]

I was really expecting to talk to "hot babes" at Coachella, and no "hot babes" said anything to me.

I instead got disappointed again by the stupid hot guy I was seeing who only wanted to hang out with me because I would share my weed with him. I am just too nice to stupid people. Need to be mean and say FUCK EVERYONE and just turn into a rolly poly ball.

I thought you did say "Fuck everyone" already. The many sides of Kitt Kat.

[psychic friend]

Does anyone else imagine that Amy's vagina is somehow in the shape of a frown?

that is so sig worthy. someone plz sig that.

[psychic friend]

I was really expecting to talk to "hot babes" at Coachella, and no "hot babes" said anything to me.

I instead got disappointed again by the stupid hot guy I was seeing who only wanted to hang out with me because I would share my weed with him. I am just too nice to stupid people. Need to be mean and say FUCK EVERYONE and just turn into a rolly poly ball.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJO3ROT-A4E

[fatbastard]

I was really expecting to talk to "hot babes" at Coachella, and no "hot babes" said anything to me.

I instead got disappointed again by the stupid hot guy I was seeing who only wanted to hang out with me because I would share my weed with him. I am just too nice to stupid people. Need to be mean and say FUCK EVERYONE and just turn into a rolly poly ball.

Now your getting there.

[Mugwog]

Lets just smoke some weed and dance ourselves into seduction

Thn we can post more to this thread

[romanticizer]

Smoking weed means I'll dance myself right into the bed to sleep.

[Robin]

Smoking weed means I'll dance myself right into the bed to sleep.

It usually makes me dance to the bathroom to so I can make make out with the toilet.

[kitt kat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJO3ROT-A4E

BOY BANDZ

[Mugwog]

Smoking weed means I'll dance myself right into the bed to sleep.

I'll seduce your limp your body. No effort needed on your behalf

[Goatchella]

No, I mean for a woman with an average or already high sex drive, would popping some viagra just make her go wild?

My friend and I have been locked in a debate about this for a while. But apparently you have to have a scrip to get viagra.

I have a really wild story that involves cocaine, redbull, Viagra, horny goat weed and the freakiest bitch I ever stuck my button into.

[Miroir Noir]

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that your story involves people having sex whilst under the influence of various substances.

[Mugwog]

Its a story about male ED. "The hardest button to button"

[Goatchella]

My button is always very hard.

The story is closer to a hard attack/heart attack, a lot of sweat and cramped abdominals like you could never imagine.

[Goatchella]

The endless summer

[chairmenmeow47]

i'm going on a speed dating show tonight. prolly will never air, but i hope this is interesting and that i get to be the one who chooses who she wants.

[Mr. Dylanja]

Does it air on some local channel with a blonde host? My roommate watches that show.

[herro kitty]

That sounds like fun, Ivy!! I hope it airs too :) You would be a great TV personality :)

[thelastgreatman]

The short answer is: maybe, but probably just as a placebo effect. There were double blinded, randomized, placebo controlled trials in which Viagra demonstrated an increase in clitoral blood flow and arousal. However, there was not a statistically significant effect on libido, as Viagra works soley on vasodilation and blood flow, with no direct effect on emotional or psychological aspects of sexual dysfunction.

Um... it works on chicks. I've been part of our own controlled studies in which coke whores who had no idea that there was crushed up viagra in the lines towards the end of the night ended up holding their clits like little kids that had to pee.

[guedita]

I will investigate and report back.

[thelastgreatman]

Make sure you take at least 50 mg, and have a bar of xanax on hand for when you want to stop juicing.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

The coveted coke whore cohort

[malcolmjamalawesome]

P = 0.05

[guedita]

One of the guys I was "hanging out with" that I had met on OKCupid recently got back in touch with me via email and now I can't even figure out if I'm more offended about his former physical performance in bed or the fact that he opened an email with a blatant grammatical error.

[guedita]

Also I was recruited to join a ladies pool league that I think is mostly compromised of lesbians. Adventure time.

[algunz]

You are on your walkabout. You can only benefit from a bit of play and exploration.

[guedita]

I'm more or less hoping for a lesbian make-over, montage style.

[algunz]

The short answer is: maybe, but probably just as a placebo effect. There were double blinded, randomized, placebo controlled trials in which Viagra demonstrated an increase in clitoral blood flow and arousal. However, there was not a statistically significant effect on libido, as Viagra works soley on vasodilation and blood flow, with no direct effect on emotional or psychological aspects of sexual dysfunction.

Once the physical aspects are heightened down there doesn't the emotional and psychological aspects follow?

[Goose4485]

recently was dating a girl from okc, things seemed to be goin great after 6 or 7 dates. Then all of a sudden she panicked and over a long dinner repeatedly told me how great I was and how good things between us were, but she had some unresolved issues from her last relationship she needed to resolve before getting into something new. She ended it saying she still wanted to stay in touch and try to re pursue things when shes resolved her stuff.

I'm by no means going to just wait around forever, but am i crazy to believe that's the truth, or is that some long roundabout way of blowing me off?

[Mugwog]

Maybe she thinks you're just really, really nice.

[Goose4485]

Maybe she thinks you're just really, really nice.

lol, yah that wouldn't be the first time....

[ThatGirl]

lol, yah that wouldn't be the first time....

She is fully blowing you off while trying not to sound like she's blowing you off.

[chairmenmeow47]

recently was dating a girl from okc, things seemed to be goin great after 6 or 7 dates. Then all of a sudden she panicked and over a long dinner repeatedly told me how great I was and how good things between us were, but she had some unresolved issues from her last relationship she needed to resolve before getting into something new. She ended it saying she still wanted to stay in touch and try to re pursue things when shes resolved her stuff.

I'm by no means going to just wait around forever, but am i crazy to believe that's the truth, or is that some long roundabout way of blowing me off?

she probably doesn't mean to be malicious, but i think she is blowing you off.

i can somewhat relate; however i am dealing with my issues on my own time and taking things slow until i am ready to dive in because i really like the guy. if i didn't, i'd use my laundry list of issues as an excuse to bail. when you like someone, you'll do whatever it takes to make it work.

[lehorne]

yep, try to be more interesting

[Robin]

recently was dating a girl from okc, things seemed to be goin great after 6 or 7 dates. Then all of a sudden she panicked and over a long dinner repeatedly told me how great I was and how good things between us were, but she had some unresolved issues from her last relationship she needed to resolve before getting into something new. She ended it saying she still wanted to stay in touch and try to re pursue things when shes resolved her stuff.

I'm by no means going to just wait around forever, but am i crazy to believe that's the truth, or is that some long roundabout way of blowing me off?
Sounds like she's blowing you off.
I sure hope you went dutch on that dinner.

[Mugwog]

strange creatures these "women"

[guedita]

Uhh have the two of you touched genitals yet?

[Goose4485]

Sounds like it's the good ol blowoff, on to the next one


uhh have the two of you touched genitals yet?


Sounds like she's blowing you off.
I sure hope you went dutch on that dinner.

Yes to the dutch and genitals touching

[Robin]

Yes to the dutch and genitals touching

Rebound

[Gundam]

recently was dating a girl from okc, things seemed to be goin great after 6 or 7 dates. Then all of a sudden she panicked and over a long dinner repeatedly told me how great I was and how good things between us were, but she had some unresolved issues from her last relationship she needed to resolve before getting into something new. She ended it saying she still wanted to stay in touch and try to re pursue things when shes resolved her stuff.

I'm by no means going to just wait around forever, but am i crazy to believe that's the truth, or is that some long roundabout way of blowing me off?

She's playing hard to get.

[guedita]

I told a guy at least 20 years my senior at the bar tonight that I had a boyfriend as a way to deter him from asking me out.

Four times later, he told me that "when things end, he really wants to take me out."

Mentioned that he enjoys seeing movies.

Cool, dude.

[Originalbob]

every classy man wants a taste of ginger in their mouth....
Ohhhhh, that was bad. :S

[frazzles]

When things end, Cara.

When.

[thelastgreatman]

If a girl won't fuck you because she has a boyfriend, she won't fuck you period. If a girl really wants to fuck you, boyfriends are obscenely minor obstacles.

[locachica73]

I do not agree with that, I have ran into a boy here and there that I would very much like to see naked, but wouldn't risk my relationship for it. If that relationship were to end though I would be all over it.

[Robin]

I do not agree with that, I have ran into a boy here and there that I would very much like to see naked, but wouldn't risk my relationship for it. If that relationship were to end though I would be all over it.

Exactly.
Even if I have a feeling it's going to end, but it hasn't ended yet, I still wouldn't cheat.

[algunz]

If a girl won't fuck you because she has a boyfriend, she won't fuck you period. If a girl really wants to fuck you, boyfriends are obscenely minor obstacles.

I'll bet it's more likely that you hang with women of questionable character.

(excluding the obvious)

[thelastgreatman]

Okay, allow me to clarify: if a girl has a boyfriend it has nothing to do with whether or not she will fuck ME.

[Miroir Noir]

thelastgreatman: Don Draper, Wilt Chamberlain, and Warren Beaty rolled into one man.

[thelastgreatman]

Ooo, I like the Beatty. It does a better job of conveying my hair color than my current summation: Don Draper and George Clooney's offspring.

[Gundam]

I told a guy at least 20 years my senior at the bar tonight that I had a boyfriend as a way to deter him from asking me out.

Four times later, he told me that "when things end, he really wants to take me out."

Mentioned that he enjoys seeing movies.

Cool, dude.

You don't like movies?

[guedita]

Sure. I also like oxygen and food, in general.

[GuyInTucson]

"Hi. My name is Jason. I like music. Want to come to my basement and learn about scalps?"

[Mugwog]

Sure. I also like oxygen and food, in general.

How do you feel about land masses?

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

I prefer to call that mana

[Robin]

"Hi. My name is Jason. I like music. Want to come to my basement and learn about scalps?"

I'm on my way right now!

[Goatchella]

every classy man wants a taste of ginger in their mouth....
Ohhhhh, that was bad. :S
i like this

[guedita]

You know what I've also been told a few times by these older guys that hit on me? They tell me that I look a lot like a girl they used to take a long time ago. Presumably, when they were closer to my age. THAT'S A WEIRD THING TO TELL SOMEONE.

[amyzzz]

"Hi. My name is Jason. I like music. Want to come to my basement and learn about scalps?"
I have known people who did not care for music, actually.

[Goatchella]

I would Cara...not cause I'm attracted to you or because you are an amazing writer or because you untz so well. I would do it just to say I did it.

I would never tell anyone here either...So if I already have. It will always be a secret.

[Goatchella]

oh fahk...I thought we were in the confessions thread

[frazzles]

A secret on the boards. Not a secret on bookface.

[Goatchella]

;) stay perfect

[Mugwog]

I have known people who did not care for music, actually.

I just don't get that, I can understand not enjoying a certain genre, but when people tell me they really don't care for music, it seems very strange to not enjoy any type of music at all. The world would be so less colorful without it.


You know what I've also been told a few times by these older guys that hit on me? They tell me that I look a lot like a girl they used to take a long time ago. Presumably, when they were closer to my age. THAT'S A WEIRD THING TO TELL SOMEONE.
"you look like my ex"

thats wonderful to hear

[Robin]

"you look like my ex"

thats wonderful to hear

Well... a lot of white people do look alike.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

On the topic of terrible ways to pick up women, my girl friend sometimes has to interact with a really creepy guy who is constantly hitting on her, and this is what she said this morning:

Today the creepy consultant guy who sometimes brings us clients (I call him Rico Suave) told me that he knew I was at court because he could "smell me."

[Goatchella]

Well... all white people do look alike.

fixed

[frazzles]

Try finding a specific Japanese person in the middle of Shibuya. Fucking impossible.

[Goatchella]

asians have sub categories though...you can't pick a specific person out of a group of asians, but you can pick the korean out of the asians or the jap out of the asians.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Try finding a specific Japanese person in the middle of Shibuya. Fucking impossible.
And yet when i was in Japan a few years ago, my brother and I met an Australian couple at a pub in Asakusa and 3 days later randomly ran into them with having had any further interaction in the middle of Shinjuku. We couldn't fucking believe it.

[Originalbob]

Calling a creeper Rico Suave sounds too nice. But smelling someone is pretty disturbing!!

I've had a guy at work that I've named Norman Bates. For example, people have watched him walked slowly passed me, staring holes in the back of my head. My friend felt dirty for me--I would be happy not knowing the details, but alas!

[amyzzz]

On the topic of terrible ways to pick up women, my girl friend sometimes has to interact with a really creepy guy who is constantly hitting on her, and this is what she said this morning:Does she wear strong perfume or deodorant?

Sometimes I am really glad I'm flat-chested and not hot because I never get creepers like that.

[GuyInTucson]

Sometimes I am really glad I'm flat-chested and not hot because I never get creepers like that.


http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Daria-tv-show-01.jpg

[Goatchella]

Does she wear strong perfume or deodorant?

Sometimes I am really glad I'm flat-chested and not hot because I never get creepers like that.

Im really really really into flat chested, ,outh breathing, pale gingers. giggidy.




ps...this sort of post is not fun if you still have me on ignore or pretend to have me on ignore.

[Originalbob]

Well, if you're a flirt and skinny, you can still be classified as being "hot". Another example from my work. A horrible co-worker, but she flirted it up with everyone and looked like a meth user, well, in fact she used to be. It also depends on your confidence around men

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Does she wear strong perfume or deodorant?

She does not. it's a pretty amazing thing to say to someone.

[Robin]

asians have sub categories though...you can't pick a specific person out of a group of asians, but you can pick the korean out of the asians or the jap out of the asians.

I hope you realize that "Jap" is kinda derogatory.

The company I work for right now is Japanese based. Even being Asian, I have trouble identifying them.

[frazzles]

Distinguishing between Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans in general is fairly easy, though.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Especially if you hear them speak. The cadence and rhythms of their languages are totally different.

[Goatchella]

sorry i did NOT mean to insult or be derogatory in any way. I love Japanese culture and people.

[Robin]

No worries. I meet a lot of honkies that don't know it's derogatory.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

"Jap" dates back to WWII. Especially offensive to Japanese-Americans people who had family in the US internment camps. It looked like you just didn't know though.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

A funny note about derogatory names: I always hear white people correct other white people on the use of "Persian" with that saying of "Persian is a rug, not person," and yet every person i know whose is from iran 9and i have several friends who were either born there or are 1st gen US-born and still speak Farsi and everything) always use Persian as an adjective for describing people, food, etc. I don't know where the idea that it's derogatory came from.

[Robin]

I don't like it when people call me Oriental. Makes me feel like I'm an Asian craft.

I AM NOT A RUG, DAMMIT!

[Goatchella]

i know that dumb fucks use it to put down other people. I don't hate any certain ethnicity and i am ignorant period.
Sorry to anyone I offended.

[Gundam]

Sure. I also like oxygen and food, in general.

I feel like we have so much in common...

[IceyHotshot]

A funny note about derogatory names: I always hear white people correct other white people on the use of "Persian" with that saying of "Persian is a rug, not person," and yet every person i know whose is from iran 9and i have several friends who were either born there or are 1st gen US-born and still speak Farsi and everything) always use Persian as an adjective for describing people, food, etc. I don't know where the idea that it's derogatory came from.

I've never heard this. I took Farsi for over a year, have many Persian friends, and dated a Persian girl for a while. Everyone uses Persian to refer to the both the people and the language. Actually, Farsi is not a proper English term (it'd be like calling German Deutsch) but everyone except the teachers/TAs call it that anyway. In the Persian language, Persian people are referred to as Iranians, but I think the reason Persian is preferred here is because people want to distance themselves from the current regime in Iran.

[fatbastard]

I belive the proper terminology is gook.

[lehorne]

used heavily in Vietnam and old Russell Crowe movies

[Originalbob]

I just found out one of my coworkers might be divorcing after 9 years. He's only a couple months older than I, but I sympathize for him. They've both agreed to visit therapists seperately while mostly living apart.

Question: If someone only gives lip service to Christianity (drinks, smokes, doesn't attend church) and the other has gradually become an Atheist over the last 5 years, do you think it's right to expect them to believe in God as a way to mend the relationship?

[stinkbutt]

Depends how much they want that ass

[Originalbob]

He's protective of his virgin taking pussy, even though he used to be active. He mentioned to me he's sort of excited to live alone and be back in the dating scene, despite my cautions to the wind, but he honestly doesn't want it to end. He's even willing to have missionary lessons to see through the hogwash. I feel bad for him in so many ways.

[Mugwog]

ITS WHAT YOU GET FOR LIVING IN UTAH

[Originalbob]

He wants to move to California for some strange reason

[Mugwog]

He just needs a disconnect from the everyday, it sounds like he wants to be himself, but also trying to consider feelings. If you don't believe in teh same religion as your partner, problems will arise and you will grow tired of hearing bullshit about praying to fix your problems, when you don't even believe in what you're praying to.

[Mugwog]

Everyone thinks california is the promised land.

And it is.

We've got movies, porn, weed, vegetables, hippies, new age thinking, cars, and mangos from mexico. WHO WOULDNT wANT THAT?

[stinkbutt]

People who don't like cancer

[guedita]

People who realize a lot of people in CA are exactly like Mugwog

[M Sparks]

He's protective of his virgin taking pussy, even though he used to be active.

:confused: Is this a Mormon phrase?

[Mugwog]

People who realize a lot of people in CA are exactly like Mugwog

I wish this were true, it would be a much better place.

[Originalbob]

:confused: Is this a Mormon phrase?

Not really. His wife was a virgin the first time they met. Broke up for a year or something, then revisited dating each other again. Two weeks in they banged.

Update: she has decided to give them a 6 month trial period aka time for the lease to run out and time for counseling.

[Mugwog]

A trial period. Jesus, just end that shit.

[kitt kat]

Stupid hot dude will not stop texting me. Saying he's gonna give me tickets to this show for my birthday, blah blah blah. It's a shame because he is an attractive dude, but such a douchebag. He can hang out and flirt with me all he wants, but I pretty much decided he's not dating/boyfriend/regular hookup material. His personality is just so vile. Just a very, very handsome man with a nice LP collection.

In other news, I've actually been hanging out with that guy the last guy I was seeing basically passed off to me. He's really nice, we like all the same stuff — but can't tell if he's playing it slow because he's being respectful or if he's not into me. We went out on Saturday, went back to his place and watched MST3K and made out on his couch, but he didn't ask for me to stay over and I left on my own accord around 3:30am. Hmph.

Maybe he thinks it's weird I hooked up with his friend/that he and I were set up by said friend? Or maybe that I'm younger than he is? I dunno.

[sonnyboy11]

She does not. it's a pretty amazing thing to say to someone.

I mostly just lurk here, but found this a bit disturbing. This is work related, right? Can't your friend report this behavior to someone?

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Not really - She's a lawyer and he's just some guy that brings clients in for a commission. She told him it was inappropriate and he tried to tell her it was a cultural thing and he meant no offense and she told him to knock it off. This exchange happened in a US federal Court building by the way - she was standing in a corridor waiting to get into see a US trustee and this guy just came walking around the corner and said "oh helloo, I knew you were here, i coouuldd smelllll you."

[Mugwog]

Stupid hot dude will not stop texting me. Saying he's gonna give me tickets to this show for my birthday, blah blah blah. It's a shame because he is an attractive dude, but such a douchebag. He can hang out and flirt with me all he wants, but I pretty much decided he's not dating/boyfriend/regular hookup material. His personality is just so vile. Just a very, very handsome man with a nice LP collection.

In other news, I've actually been hanging out with that guy the last guy I was seeing basically passed off to me. He's really nice, we like all the same stuff — but can't tell if he's playing it slow because he's being respectful or if he's not into me. We went out on Saturday, went back to his place and watched MST3K and made out on his couch, but he didn't ask for me to stay over and I left on my own accord around 3:30am. Hmph.

Maybe he thinks it's weird I hooked up with his friend/that he and I were set up by said friend? Or maybe that I'm younger than he is? I dunno.

Katt - unleash your sexual frustration on this shy fellow. Just scratch that back up! I mean, while making out he did have a boner right?

[Robin]

Stupid hot dude will not stop texting me. Saying he's gonna give me tickets to this show for my birthday, blah blah blah. It's a shame because he is an attractive dude, but such a douchebag. He can hang out and flirt with me all he wants, but I pretty much decided he's not dating/boyfriend/regular hookup material. His personality is just so vile. Just a very, very handsome man with a nice LP collection.

So, you're using this guy?
You should get him to post.

[sonnyboy11]

Not really - She's a lawyer and he's just some guy that brings clients in for a commission. She told him it was inappropriate and he tried to tell her it was a cultural thing and he meant no offense and she told him to knock it off. This exchange happened in a US federal Court building by the way - she was standing in a corridor waiting to get into see a US trustee and this guy just came walking around the corner and said "oh ms. ******, I knew you were here, i coouuldd smelllll you."

Jebus, it's like something right outta Silence of the Lambs! /shudder

[marooko]

I BIT MY WRIST!!

[fatbastard]

I'd really like to have a panel created of Kat's peers from this board to get together, evaluate, and offer suggestions.

Some things off the top of my head.

Height-does her height effect her chances with a certain percentage of guys?

Attire-I dig the vampira thing, but again, does that effect her changes with a certain percentage of guys?

Scent-Kat always looks clean, but is she using baby talcum powder, or patchouli , that are throwing guys off the scent (pun intended)?

Approach-4 boardies standing at the end of a bar. Kat's job is to come up to one of them and give it her best short at picking them up. Other boardies take notes and offer feedback.

Shyness-Is her shyness reducing her opportunities or is it just nervousness?

Weirdness-Does she oink every time she laughs, talks about Lou Reed like he's her uncle, or scratch her ass while in midconversation or some type of thing that she does not realize?


I really want her to start closing deals with potential drama free boyfriends.

[kitt kat]

I'd really like to have a panel created of Kat's peers from this board to get together, evaluate, and offer suggestions.

Not opposed to this if things don't work out with the older guy.


Attire-I dig the vampira thing, but again, does that effect her changes with a certain percentage of guys?
My wardrobe will be sacrificed for no man.


Scent-Kat always looks clean, but is she using baby talcum powder, or patchouli , that are throwing guys off the scent (pun intended)?
Oh man, I hope I don't smell weird.


So, you're using this guy?
You should get him to post.

It's a mutual using. On again off again since November.

[kitt kat]

A funny note about derogatory names: I always hear white people correct other white people on the use of "Persian" with that saying of "Persian is a rug, not person," and yet every person i know whose is from iran 9and i have several friends who were either born there or are 1st gen US-born and still speak Farsi and everything) always use Persian as an adjective for describing people, food, etc. I don't know where the idea that it's derogatory came from.

Unrelated to the thread, but I have two friends who are "Persian" and call themselves "Persian." So, yeah.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

So it is definitely a silly white liberal person thing.

[kitt kat]

Most likely, yes.

[brematale111]

My girlfriend has much, much more sexual experience than I do.

[frizzlefry]

She's probably down for a DP, in that case PM me

[brematale111]

sushi slamdog?

[zenidogx]

I have an unusual attraction to a coworker. This concerns me. Anyone want to remind me why dating coworkers is a bad idea?

[brematale111]

Because he/she will always have tabs on you between the hours of 9-5

[frizzlefry]

sushi slamdog?

Fucking degenerate

[Robin]

Because he/she will always have tabs on you between the hours of 9-5

This.
Also, the water cooler gossip.
Also, if it doesn't work out, it can get really awkward at work.
Also, if it ends badly, it can lead to harassment claims.

I've worked in Human Resources for almost 10 years, so I have many stories of coworkers dating each other.

[marooko]

Because when it doesn't work out, rumors will be all over the office.

I guess I should have refreshed before posting.

[bmack86]

I have an unusual attraction to a coworker. This concerns me. Anyone want to remind me why dating coworkers is a bad idea?

Because you'll inevitably have sex in the office on the copier and then there will be evidence that you had sex in the office and then you'll probably both get fired. Not good news.

[zenidogx]

See, that's the thought that's been bothering me. I have no idea what everyone else is talking about.

[marooko]

It would probably be after hours that you have sex on the copier and it would most likely be off. So apparently there's no problem.

[bmack86]

Why have sex on the copier if it's off though? You'd take the extra effort to turn it back on.

[zenidogx]

I wouldn't be fired for leaving evidence behind. I'd be fired for faxing the evidence to Phoenix.

[Robin]

Can it be easily proven that it was you?

[brematale111]

I'll PM you my fax number

[marooko]

Apparently I failed at having office sex. I never turned the copier on.

[buddy]

I've done the work relationship thing twice. It didn't end well once, and was talked into the second time by friends because I didn't want to try that again. The second time ended up in a five year relationship, and for the most part was pretty good. Saying all that, I still wouldn't recommend work relationships.

[BROKENDOLL]

I'd really like to have a panel created of Kat's peers from this board to get together, evaluate, and offer suggestions.

Some things off the top of my head.

Height-does her height effect her chances with a certain percentage of guys?
Attire-I dig the vampira thing, but again, does that effect her changes with a certain percentage of guys?

Scent-Kat always looks clean, but is she using baby talcum powder, or patchouli , that are throwing guys off the scent (pun intended)?

Approach-4 boardies standing at the end of a bar. Kat's job is to come up to one of them and give it her best short at picking them up. Other boardies take notes and offer feedback.

Shyness-Is her shyness reducing her opportunities or is it just nervousness?

Weirdness-Does she oink every time she laughs, talks about Lou Reed like he's her uncle, or scratch her ass while in midconversation or some type of thing that she does not realize?
I really want her to start closing deals with potential drama free boyfriends.
Before I offer to commit to anything, can I ask if the bar you have in mind is like a local neighborhood hang out, like Cheers? Or, will it be the type of bar that's filled with pretentiously HOT GUYS and Hipster Chicks named Mimi or Solange?

Anyway... Height shouldn't matter as long as it's not because of of some pedestal she's put herself on. And, it's not my style, but I think hers is cute and shouldn't make a difference, so it can't be that... Does she ever take those large framed glasses off though? That could be a deal breaker if she's out at 3:30 am trying to get some ill-na-na. As for her scent...I think she's too wishy-washy to have a smell.

Now, the approach part... Hmm, I remember the first board meet-up we went to at Coachella a few years ago, and I didn't know whether to feel like a bumbling fucking idiot or a target for a backhand. I doubt Kat is actually shy... I just think her asshole-ex has just convinced her that she's a bumbling idiot. And as far as weirdness goes... Maybe she does "oink" everytime she laughs...that may explain the pigs she keeps ending up with... I don't know.



Not opposed to this if things don't work out with the older guy.


My wardrobe will be sacrificed for no man.


Oh man, I hope I don't smell weird.



It's a mutual using. On again off again since November.

Wait. Hold it. Obviously, we're talking issues with getting naked, as well as worrying about how it smells when she does... No wonder she can't get them eating out of the palm of her hand!

[Gundam]

I have an unusual attraction to a coworker. This concerns me. Anyone want to remind me why dating coworkers is a bad idea?

It's too late, and anything we say wont sway your mind.

Don't do it.

[lehorne]

don't date em, just take them to the bathroom three floors down for a screw. And afterward act like it never happened. "Good afternoon, Doris. How are you?".

[algunz]

A fuck buddy at work can be the best and the worst. A work relationship can be great and terrible. You'll never know if you don't try.

[RotationSlimWang]

Stupid hot dude will not stop texting me. Saying he's gonna give me tickets to this show for my birthday, blah blah blah. It's a shame because he is an attractive dude, but such a douchebag. He can hang out and flirt with me all he wants, but I pretty much decided he's not dating/boyfriend/regular hookup material. His personality is just so vile. Just a very, very handsome man with a nice LP collection.

In other news, I've actually been hanging out with that guy the last guy I was seeing basically passed off to me. He's really nice, we like all the same stuff — but can't tell if he's playing it slow because he's being respectful or if he's not into me. We went out on Saturday, went back to his place and watched MST3K and made out on his couch, but he didn't ask for me to stay over and I left on my own accord around 3:30am. Hmph.

Maybe he thinks it's weird I hooked up with his friend/that he and I were set up by said friend? Or maybe that I'm younger than he is? I dunno.

Katt, what's "vile" about his personality? I'm just asking because, well, yours is pretty bad.

[Robin]

Gunz - you're right. You won't know if it'll be great or terrible. You just have to realize what risks are being taken.
I dated a former coworker once. We were in completely different departments on different shifts, so it wasn't bad. We also kept it a secret from the rest of the company.

I've gotten a lot of reports on my desk from coworkers who dated, but broke up saying that they can no longer work with each other. It was creating a hostile work environment, not just for them, but also their peers. Some turned into a "he said/she said" sexual harassment investigation.

If you do go for it, and date this coworker, make sure you both know your boundaries between professional and personal. One of the top things I hate doing in my profession is talking to employees about their love relationship. Another is if the employee smells.

[locachica73]

My fear of dating people I work with is that it will either go horribly and cause work tension, or go well and then I will be seeing that person all day at work, then all night at home, eventually getting so sick of their face that I just can't take it anymore.

My sister married a coworker, they worked together, lived together, carpoooled together and had lunch together. There is not one person I can think of that I like enough to want to see that often.

[RotationSlimWang]

I love trying to get chicks I work with--especially if they're in a relationship--to fuck around at work.

[greghead]

Maybe he thinks it's weird I hooked up with his friend/that he and I were set up by said friend? Or maybe that I'm younger than he is? I dunno.

No. He's just going slow and respectful because he actually likes you. I can't speak for anyone, but I won't make-out with girls I wouldn't put my penis in. Try jerking him off to get him up to speed.

[M Sparks]

No. He's just going slow and respectful because he actually likes you. I can't speak for anyone, but I won't make-out with girls I wouldn't put my penis in.

No, you can pretty much speak for everyone. If a guy makes out with a woman, he wants to at least sleep with her. If he watches MST3K with a woman until 3:30am, he likes being with her. If he does both, he's "into her".

Speaking for myself (but it's probably fairly universal), when I was young, I had a quite a few experiences where the woman was a virgin, or she "didn't want a bad reputation" or, in one case, wasn't really sure if she was bi-sexual or just a curious lesbian...anyway, I got shut down a lot for whatever reason. So that trained me that just because a woman wanted to make out, or strip down to panties and dry hump, or let me go down on her without returning the favor, it didn't mean they wanted to have sex.

So anyway, that sort of female behavior messed me up for about 15 years until I figured out that it was all part of some weird "I need to feel like the man is dominant and in control, even though 'No Means No' and all that but I need him to read some secret pheromone/ultrasonic wave I am sending out and figure out when no means yes, which honestly is 94% of the time."

My advice would be to get him over to your place. Every time I have sex for the first time with someone, it's at her place. You can say "Let's move into the bedroom" and then he knows it's OK to take it further. The poor guy is a gentleman, and he hasn't figured out your crazy secret lady code yet.

[CJC626]

Have any of you checked out this singles map? Perhaps the deep south is not so bad for men after all.
7299

[Pixiessp]

Um... it works on chicks. I've been part of our own controlled studies in which coke whores who had no idea that there was crushed up viagra in the lines towards the end of the night ended up holding their clits like little kids that had to pee.

We have a lot of these pee pee holders as customers in my store.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Have any of you checked out this singles map? Perhaps the deep south is not so bad after all.
7299

If you're a male, sure. I have a female friend who moved to Alabama like 2 years ago and the lack of single men is driving her fucking crazy.

[Robin]

Have any of you checked out this singles map? Perhaps the deep south is not so bad for men after all.
7299

A lot of single men in the bay area.
Maybe I need to stop being a hermit and start dolling myself up.

[CJC626]

If you're a male, sure. I have a female friend who moved to Alabama like 2 years ago and the lack of single men is driving her fucking crazy.

Is your friend into football (college football preferred) at all? Or at least willing to feign some kind of interest in it?

Me personally, I don't think the favorable singles ratio would be enough incentive to move to Alabama. I have this ignorant hunch that I would not fit in very well there.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Not sure if she is around a school. She says that most people there get married right out of high school, so pretty much everyone is married and having kids already. She works for a technology company, some kind of programmer I think, she moved there because she was having a hard time with the job market in Los Angeles and the cost of living is so much cheaper in Alabama. She hates it there, but she's willing to make a sacrifice to move forward in her career until she can start going to high paying positions in more expensive markets. She is also half middle eastern and half El Salvadorean and a practicing Muslim, so I'm sure that has a gigantic effect on her dating prospects too.

[CJC626]

A lot of single men in the bay area.
Maybe I need to stop being a hermit and start dolling myself up.

My company's HQ is in south bay, and I get to go out there a few times a year. Based on my anecdotal observation, there seems to be a lot more guys around the bar/club scene than girls, and a lot of them appear to be the 'valley' tech geek type who make lots of money now, but blossomed late, so there's still some social awkardness in them (which isn't bad - I am super socially awkward). Blazer and jeans seems to be the common look there, so if you're into that look on guys at all...

[Robin]

My company's HQ is in south bay, and I get to go out there a few times a year. Based on my anecdotal observation, there seems to be a lot more guys around the bar/club scene than girls, and a lot of them appear to be the 'valley' tech geek type who make lots of money now, but blossomed late, so there's still some social awkardness in them (which isn't bad - I am super socially awkward). Blazer and jeans seems to be the common look there, so if you're into that look on guys at all...

Note to self: Start hitting up spots in South Bay. Find sugar daddy.

[kitt kat]

If a guy makes out with a woman, he wants to at least sleep with her. If he watches MST3K with a woman until 3:30am, he likes being with her. If he does both, he's "into her".

I hope you're right...I invited him out last night, but he was recording. He then asked if I was free Thursday, but hasn't responded back to me.

[Mugwog]

He's doing stuff, that's a good sign

[My epic username]

Note to self: Start hitting up spots in South Bay. Find sugar daddy.

Agreed. Can you grab a spare for me too please?

[BROKENDOLL]

I hope you're right...I invited him out last night, but he was recording. He then asked if I was free Thursday, but hasn't responded back to me.
I hope you remembered you had to respond back to his invitation for Thursday first... *rolls eyes*

[Robin]

Agreed. Can you grab a spare for me too please?

I have enough trouble getting one guy. Getting two may be quite difficult, but I'll try.


On an unrelated note, a guy I hooked up with this past December (the "friend zone" guy that wouldn't date me because I smoke) is becoming friends with the brother that I live with. It's a bit awkward. I guess this makes up for the time I dated one of my bro's friends.

[Mugwog]

Sounds like he's stalking you

[Goatchella]

No. He's just going slow and respectful because he actually likes you. I can't speak for anyone, but I won't make-out with girls I wouldn't put my penis in. Try jerking him off to get him up to speed.

you speak for me when you say this...I won't fuck a girl i wouldn't kiss and i won't kiss a girl I wouldn't date and vice versa

[SlowMotionApocalypse]

My cousin who I haven't seen in years is in town and staying with the folks. She is 24 and kinda hot. Anyway we went out last night, had a few beers and played pool. First off she was totally cock blocking which was odd. Then when I drove her back to my parent's, she told me she was always thinking about me back home, how good I still look now and that she even had a little crush on me when we younger. Then she leaned over and kissed me on the lips, then asked if we could go back to my place instead. I was shocked and mumbled something about having to get up early. I almost crashed on the way home.

Now I am totally awash with conflicting emotions. It feels wrong but also feels so right. I kinda want to do it but I am afraid of the consequences if any of my family finds out. She is instant messaging me asking if we can get together again today but I am not sure what to say. Has anyone here ever been in a situation like this? How did it work out? How do you think I should proceed?

[TomAz]

If someone only gives lip service to Christianity (drinks, smokes..)

Your view of christianity is quite different from mine. Must be the utah thing.

[amyzzz]

SMA, first cousin?

[SlowMotionApocalypse]

SMA, first cousin?

Mom's sister's daughter.

[amyzzz]

Go on...

[Mugwog]

Rule #1 about dating: Don't date your blood relatives

[Robin]

Mom's sister's daughter.

So first cousin by blood?

Where do you live?

[Robin]

Sounds like he's stalking you

Nah. We still hang out here and there, but it's only when there's a group of us or if I need something fixed on my motorcycle.
He has a lady now. He's just been been more friendly with my brother because he wants to go on moto rides with him.

[locachica73]

My first kiss was a step-cousin, but if there is a blood relation that's just icky.

[Robin]

My first kiss was a step-cousin, but if there is a blood relation that's just icky.

It's legal in some states.

[spiggums]

Mom's sister's daughter.

All I hear in my head right now:
"He's your cousin"
"yeah but he's my FIRST cousin"

[amyzzz]

Legal to get MARRIED. He just wants to bang her.

[locachica73]

It's legal in some states.

It being legal doesn't make it any less icky.

[Mugwog]

If you're going to makeout/get down with your cousin, do it in a drunken/drugged out haze and make sure your cousin is at an equal level of inebriation or higher. That way, after it goes down, you sleep in another room. Make sure you leave no evidence of it going down and it can all be some sort of fucked up wet dream that will scare you when sobriety hits.

[guedita]

One of my cousins slept with his brother's girlfriend's mom.

[TomAz]

A Thread About Incest.

[Mugwog]

One of my cousins slept with his brother's girlfriend's mom.

Well see, that's OK

[AlecEiffel]

Things learned from SlowMotionApocalypse today; Transgendered people are mentally ill sexual deviants, but it's perfectly fine to seriously contemplate incest.

[amyzzz]

Cousin incest doesn't bother me that much.

[TomAz]

Is there any incest that bothers you that much, amy?

[kitt kat]

Oh god. That's just all sorts of wrong.




In other news, I am still ambivalent if this guy likes me. He asked about the UCB show my roommate and I are going to tonight, but it's sold out. He said we should hang after, I said OK. Last night I asked him what he was up to (because I was bored) and he responded two hours later saying he was watching a movie. That's it. Does he not realize I'm trying to hang out with him or what??

So basically, I'm debating if it would be ok to ask if he still wants to hang tonight. (Roommate wants to get food after, so I don't want to say no to her until I know about tonight.) Seeing as how he didn't respond well last night, am I right to assume he doesn't want to hang out anymore tonight after this UCB show? Should I just not contact him and go out with my roommate?

[Robin]

Kat: I believe I have told you this many times.

STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH AND BE STRAIGHTFORWARD!

"What are you doing?" does not translate to "I want to hang out" in everybody's head.

[amyzzz]

Is there any incest that bothers you that much, amy?parent/child is wrong. anything between different generations is wrong. The other is interesting to me. This goes in with the bestiality thing. I've told you all about this before.