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Yablonowitz
03-20-2007, 09:05 AM
Why should anyone care what you think?

Mr.Nipples
03-20-2007, 09:06 AM
they shouldnt

J~$$$
03-20-2007, 09:08 AM
what?

James_Murphy
03-20-2007, 09:10 AM
I was there at the first Can show in Cologne.

starbright777
03-20-2007, 09:16 AM
There is no need to justify our existance. We exist because He loves us. He wants to keep us away from the dark serpent.

SojuGorae
03-20-2007, 09:22 AM
I exist because my dad didn't put a dome on 26 years ago.

Danny Devito
03-20-2007, 09:28 AM
I love to rock!!

Calamity Jane
03-20-2007, 09:35 AM
Ripping out your eyes an stickin' turnips in the sockets, cocksucker.

Mr.Nipples
03-20-2007, 09:37 AM
I love to rock!!

nice...

mob roulette
03-20-2007, 09:38 AM
I was there at the first Can show in Cologne.


I love to rock!!

these are getting pretty good. de vito needs a sig though.

i was there at the first suicide practices in a loft in new york city. i was working on the organ sounds with much patience.

Martin Gore
03-20-2007, 09:40 AM
My band is bigger than Radiohead.

Kriss Akabusi
03-20-2007, 09:43 AM
I exist so Randy has someone to lust over.

SFChrissy
03-20-2007, 09:43 AM
nice...

Your eyes totally go with your comment!!!

Teh Hampsta
03-20-2007, 09:44 AM
I p3wn the Hampsta cage.

mob roulette
03-20-2007, 09:46 AM
My band is bigger than Radiohead.

see if robert smith is available. i know you got the connects. plus you're so much faster at this than i am. thanks.

Mr.Nipples
03-20-2007, 09:46 AM
these are getting pretty good. de vito needs a sig though.

i was there at the first suicide practices in a loft in new york city. i was working on the organ sounds with much patience.


really?...wow.

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 09:48 AM
just another thread swirling down the drain

vinylmartyr
03-20-2007, 09:50 AM
yea srsly

mob roulette
03-20-2007, 09:50 AM
just another thread swirling down the drain

hahahaha! you and the other guy.

you forgot to justify your existence, jackstraw.

vinylmartyr
03-20-2007, 09:51 AM
i mean ya

mob roulette
03-20-2007, 09:51 AM
yea srsly

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THIS GOOD THREAD. GOOD.

All That I Am
03-20-2007, 09:55 AM
I scored over 2,000 on helicopter (http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf)

bmack86
03-20-2007, 09:57 AM
I sincerely try to not respond to Delta. Is that enough to justify my e-existence?

kimery08
03-20-2007, 09:59 AM
I scored over 2,000 on helicopter (http://www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf)

thank you. i was running out of non work related things to do.

James_Murphy
03-20-2007, 11:04 AM
these are getting pretty good. de vito needs a sig though.

i was there at the first suicide practices in a loft in new york city. i was working on the organ sounds with much patience.

That was me, asshole.

Yablonowitz
03-20-2007, 11:28 AM
you forgot to justify your existence, jackstraw.

Actually, he's the only one who has.

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 11:33 AM
I make really good mix CDs. And I spend a lot of time on them. None of that "quick mix in a clear jewel case" crap. Handmade cover and handwritten track listing every time.

That's it, I guess.

breakjaw
03-20-2007, 11:38 AM
Already did.He's 9 now.

kreutz2112
03-20-2007, 11:47 AM
I can type 30 words a minute, have bad penmanship, and commonly mispell words.

Bosco
03-20-2007, 11:57 AM
i exist because capitalists want my money

Andrew
03-20-2007, 12:03 PM
I can tape all your buns together.

J~$$$
03-20-2007, 12:06 PM
Time. Too much time.

kimery08
03-20-2007, 12:18 PM
ahahahahhaahhahahaa

mountmccabe
03-20-2007, 01:11 PM
http://www.madonna.cz/icol/justify_06.jpg

bumper31
03-20-2007, 01:20 PM
I think therefore...........

ayates
03-20-2007, 02:09 PM
I brought the cocaine.

La Ferrassie
03-20-2007, 02:17 PM
I exist to continue evolution.

kreutz2112
03-20-2007, 02:56 PM
I exist to continue evolution.

Existing doesnt continue evolution. Fucking and successfully reproducing continues evolution.

samiksha
03-20-2007, 03:02 PM
I exist to continue evolution.

the other part of evolution is the death of those who are weak. so, you dying could also contribute. just sayin.

kimery08
03-20-2007, 03:03 PM
i strive to be unsuccessfull at reproducing and will continue to do so until my demise.

amyzzz
03-20-2007, 03:05 PM
Existing doesnt continue evolution. Fucking and successfully reproducing continues evolution.
I've done that. There's my justification.

SojuGorae
03-20-2007, 03:06 PM
That's pretty damn bleak.

amyzzz
03-20-2007, 03:07 PM
You haven't met my daughters, so stfu.

SojuGorae
03-20-2007, 03:07 PM
That was in response to kimery's post, not you.

amyzzz
03-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Then quote it. ;)

kimery08
03-20-2007, 03:18 PM
eh, i dont want kids.
if i change my mind, i'll adopt.

SojuGorae
03-20-2007, 03:20 PM
Raising a child without a father? Not good.

La Ferrassie
03-20-2007, 03:22 PM
I think my existence will be in a fortune cookie the next time I have Panda Express.

codytwo
03-20-2007, 03:22 PM
Raising a child without a father? Not good.

Bullshit.

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 03:22 PM
Goddamn. Say that again, Soju. And be prepared for a debate with a person raised by a single mom.

kimery08
03-20-2007, 03:23 PM
who said anything about the kid not having a father?
i prefer adopting over reproducing.

kimery08
03-20-2007, 03:24 PM
now look at what youve done!

SojuGorae
03-20-2007, 03:26 PM
No kidding. I'll take amy's advice and stfu.

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 03:38 PM
Ugh. Sorry. I didn't mean to come off like a jerk or anything, but I have a huge problem with that particular generalization. Let me start over.

Hello, Soju. My name is Hannah. I am a perfectly content product of a single parent. It's nice to meet you.

TomAz
03-20-2007, 04:00 PM
Existence needs no justification. It just is.

amyzzz
03-20-2007, 04:02 PM
I woud say IN GENERAL raising a child without a father is a bad idea. I'm sure there are a lot of touching single parent stories, but IN GENERAL, not a good idea.

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Amyzzz, I see where you are coming from. However, I think that in no way is it better to raise a child with the wrong father than with no father at all. The "typical" family only works when you assume that every person is the same, and would perform the same in their typical role.

I feel like I had some definite advantages growing up in a two-person household. Disadvantages too, of course. No situation is perfect. But I generally feel that there is no "set" way that a family should be. I never thought that my family was different than any other, because to me as a child, a family was the people who love you. I didn't (and still don't) think it was about their titles or roles.

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 04:28 PM
Existence needs no justification. It just is.

but should it be?

ewiggy
03-20-2007, 04:29 PM
yablo is secretly gay. props to tessa for the info.

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 04:34 PM
yablo is an evolutionary dead end.

Courtney
03-20-2007, 05:05 PM
Raising a child without a father? Not good.

That's not true.

Raising a child in an unhappy home? Not good. Raising a child without positive role models? Not good. Raising a child without emotional support? Not good.

But a traditional father figure is completely unnecessary for a healthy childhood. I think that a lesbian couple can do just as good a job of raising a child as a straight couple can. A single mother can also do a great job.

crazzz2007
03-20-2007, 05:07 PM
i beat Bust-a-Move (aka Puzzle Bobble) with just one quarter.

you can now play it online for free (http://www.ventoline.com/frozenbubble/bustamove640.html)

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 05:08 PM
Voice of reason. Thank you, Courtney.

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 05:09 PM
That's not true.

Raising a child in an unhappy home? Not good. Raising a child without positive role models? Not good. Raising a child without emotional support? Not good.

But a traditional father figure is completely unnecessary for a healthy childhood. I think that a lesbian couple can do just as good a job of raising a child as a straight couple can. A single mother can also do a great job.


well this at least proves you're female.

Courtney
03-20-2007, 05:10 PM
well this at least proves you're female.

Was that in question?

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 05:13 PM
no. but here's a question in response to your previous post.

you say a father figure is completely unnecessary for a healthy childhood of a boy with two female parents.

ok.

is a mother figure completely unnecessary for the healthy childhood of a girl raised by two fathers? (btw do not read any homophobia into this). Just a realistic discussion that I've had with close friends for whom this is a very personal subject.

Courtney
03-20-2007, 05:16 PM
Jack, I think that positive role models are necessary for a healthy childhood. And I think that it's good if at least one of those role models is the sex of the child. But this person could come in the form of a nanny, teacher, god parent, uncle/aunt, family friend, etc. Anyone who has close contact with the child and can make a connection on a meaningful level, for an extended period of time. I don't think that it has to be a traditional "mother" or "father" figure.

I do understand how this could be a point of contention, and that reasonable people might disagree with me.

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 05:17 PM
It's not that a father particularly is dispensable, it's that a child needs to be loved, and competently cared for. If the parent(s) create a happy, healthy home, who cares about their gender or their number?

Yablonowitz
03-20-2007, 05:18 PM
"Healthy childhood" is an amorphous target. Also, I think children need to have both men and women as part of their caregivers. I'm not saying a mom and a dad, but being raised without much male involvement or much female involvement is not as "healthy" as having both men and women playing a significant role.

Yablonowitz
03-20-2007, 05:20 PM
yablo is an evolutionary dead end.

That's the most accurate assessment of me you've ever made.

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 05:20 PM
OK. i agree with you. i think both sexes are necessary for a healthy childhood.

When you said you thought a father figure was unecessary and I disagree with those particular words. I think a father figure is necessary for a boy, if not a father directly. Two mothers probably could aptly raise a boy, but it's not ideal, and vice versa

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 05:24 PM
It's not that a father particularly is dispensable, it's that a child needs to be loved, and competently cared for. If the parent(s) create a happy, healthy home, who cares about their gender or their number?

I think there are certain inevitable parts of raising a particular gender of child of growing up that general wisdom can't easily replace.
A woman may be extremely knowledgeable about what it's like to be a growing boy, but the boy will never truly relate. Same for a girl. They may grow up well-adjusted anyway, but I hardly think it doesn't matter at all.

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 05:44 PM
I will give you that one. Barring sex changes, most women cannot tell you what it is like to be a growing boy.

The initial comment about it being a bad idea to raise a child without a father really struck a nerve with me. People automatically assume that as a product of a single mother's upbringing, I am going to either be completely afraid of men, incredibly promiscuous, or just maladjusted in general. I sort of saw a few of those comments in the near future, and thought maybe I ought to take preventative measures. It sort of spun off.

However, I still know plenty of successful people raised by single parents of the opposite gender. The parents and children were incredibly close, and the parents did not feel awkward talking about what was going on with the child. If it's for example, a father who will go red in the face at the mention of a period (not saying that's the only issue like this, but it seems to be the most common), that's going to cause problems.

In my experience spending time with people who were/are being raised by a single parent, the parent is often able to compensate. Not always. But often. Im not trying to sound like a motivational speaker, but with a certain amount of empathy, I think that people can overcome that particular issue. I've seen it happen. Like you said, I've also seen it be a problem. But often, the success or failure is dependent on the connection between the parent and the child, and not the gender of the parent. The key word here being "often".

mob roulette
03-20-2007, 05:46 PM
today is totally deep issue day. something in the air. i myself have been in three separate fights.

i mean disagreements.

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 05:53 PM
The initial comment about it being a bad idea to raise a child without a father really struck a nerve with me.

How about "it's not necessarily a bad idea to raise a child without a father. However, it is not necessarily the ideal" (However's so much easier to hear than "but")




People automatically assume that as a product of a single mother's upbringing, I am going to either be [...] incredibly promiscuous, [etc.]

so what do you quote as your excuse then?

Hannahrain
03-20-2007, 05:57 PM
The people around here are just too damn good looking.

codytwo
03-20-2007, 06:15 PM
I think that there is enough random chance thrown into any given person's childhood as to make it inconsequential. People who have parents who die at an early age turn out fine most of the time. Or they don't. Maybe you have a perfect childhood except someone rapes you. Or maybe you're born in Missoula, Montana. We all have disadvantages and bad experiences.

Yablonowitz
03-20-2007, 06:20 PM
I think that there is enough random chance thrown into any given person's childhood as to make it inconsequential. People who have parents who die at an early age turn out fine most of the time. Or they don't. Maybe you have a perfect childhood except someone rapes you. Or maybe you're born in Missoula, Montana. We all have disadvantages and bad experiences.

I was born in Weaverville, California and my dad died when I was 7. And I'm a complete fucknut, so....

codytwo
03-20-2007, 06:40 PM
Mistakenly

codytwo
03-20-2007, 06:40 PM
Oh, honestly, that wasn't directed at you. I have family from Missoula and.....alright it was directed at you.

codytwo
03-20-2007, 06:40 PM
mistakingly

John Peel is My Co-pilot
03-20-2007, 06:48 PM
What the fuck does any of this have to do with RATM, though. I can't find a link...

Yablonowitz
03-20-2007, 07:27 PM
Oh, honestly, that wasn't directed at you. I have family from Missoula and.....alright it was directed at you.

If you've been to Missoula, you know it's better than where you live, so you're just projecting or whatever it is that tom says people do when they're making fun of people.

jackstraw94086
03-20-2007, 07:42 PM
I think that there is enough random chance thrown into any given person's childhood as to make it inconsequential. People who have parents who die at an early age turn out fine most of the time. Or they don't. Maybe you have a perfect childhood except someone rapes you. Or maybe you're born in Missoula, Montana. We all have disadvantages and bad experiences.

Bad experiences. right.

full on idle
03-20-2007, 07:46 PM
I don't really see how good a kid's life can really be if the mom isn't british.

SojuGorae
03-20-2007, 07:59 PM
Ugh. Sorry. I didn't mean to come off like a jerk or anything, but I have a huge problem with that particular generalization. Let me start over.

Hello, Soju. My name is Hannah. I am a perfectly content product of a single parent. It's nice to meet you.

Tame Hannahrain sucks balls, bring back the paper cutz and lemon juice Hannahrain.

Anyway, I respectfully disagree. Not to say single-parent raised children turn out to be armed robbers or end up sucking dick for coke, but I just feel children raised by both mother and father turn out more emotionally balanced.

Like a single mother raising a boy would definitely need a man in my opinion.


That's not true.

Raising a child in an unhappy home? Not good. Raising a child without positive role models? Not good. Raising a child without emotional support? Not good.

But a traditional father figure is completely unnecessary for a healthy childhood. I think that a lesbian couple can do just as good a job of raising a child as a straight couple can. A single mother can also do a great job.

Valid, albeit, obvious points on providing role models and emotional support while raising a child. I agree a woman can do a great job physically raising a child by herself, but it ends there. You can do everything right and by the book, but what you can't control is a child's mentality. Sure, you can raise him to be healthy and smart, but once that child becomes aware of the world you don't think that kid will have difficulties coping with the fact he/she doesn't have a father?

I don't know... It's just my opinion. Shit, I can barely take care of myself and I'm talking about raising children. Fuckin' ridiculous.

TheGunslinger138
03-21-2007, 06:38 AM
Ka.