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Drinkey McDrinkerstein
01-27-2012, 10:26 AM
State Bill Outlaws Use Of Fetuses In Food Industry
A scientist holds a tray of stem cells in a lab, in this file photo from 2010.
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A scientist holds a tray of stem cells in a lab, in this file photo from 2010.

A bill introduced in the Oklahoma Legislature has some folks scratching their heads, as it prohibits "the manufacture or sale of food or products which use aborted human fetuses."

Since the bill was introduced late last week by State Sen. Ralph Shortey, a Republican from Oklahoma City, corners of the Internet have been buzzing with the news, as people try to figure out two things: 1) is this real; and 2) is there any reason the bill might be needed?

News of the bill was first reported by the AP and The Daily O'Collegian, a student newspaper at Oklahoma State University. It sparked a lively debate in the O'Collegian's readers' comments section, which is connected to Facebook.

The AP and the O'Collegian say that Shortey didn't respond to calls for comment. Two calls from NPR to the senator's office went to voicemail and were not returned. But Tulsa radio station KRMG managed to get in touch with him to ask about the legislation, Senate Bill 1418.

The senator says that his research shows there are companies in the food industry that have used human stem cells to help them research and develop products, including artificial flavorings.

"I don't know if it is happening in Oklahoma, it may be, it may not be. What I am saying is that if it does happen then we are not going to allow it to manufacture here," Shortey tells KRMG's Nicole Burgin.

To that end, his proposed statute reads, "No person or entity shall manufacture or knowingly sell food or any other product intended for human consumption which contains aborted human fetuses in the ingredients or which used aborted human fetuses in the research or development of any of the ingredients."

My own research suggests that Shortey may have noticed a boycott directed at PepsiCo, which since 2010 has worked with flavor research firm Senomyx to develop sweeteners and other flavorings.

Based in San Diego, Senomyx has been accused of using proteins derived from human embryonic kidney cells in its research, which has been used by many large food companies. An article in the Miami New Times summarizes those claims, notes the company's denial of them and also notes that in 2003, the company filed a patent for "recombinant methods for expressing a functional sweet taste receptor."

That patent, for what is essentially an automated taste test, was granted in 2008. It mentions HEK 293, or Human Embryonic Kidney 293, a widely available cell line that was originally cultured in the early 1970s from a human embryo in the Netherlands.


So, it seems that Sen. Shortey's bill mostly targets the potential use of stem cells in food research. But in the past decade, several attempts have been made to use animal stem cells to produce food. For instance, NASA has tinkered with using pigs' stem cells to grow "lab meat," according to a Popular Mechanics article from 2009.

The article continues, "Today, scientists funded by companies such as Stegeman, a Dutch sausage giant, are fine-tuning the process. It takes just two weeks to turn pig stem cells, or myoblasts, into muscle fibers."

And the group New Harvest has long been involved in the search for "meat alternatives," in the form of "plant-based meat analogs and cultured meat," according to its site.

Shortey's bill was among hundreds submitted just before the state's Thursday deadline, as Oklahoma legislators vied to get their bills entered for discussion in the upcoming session, which runs from Feb. 6 into late May.


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/01/20/145539661/state-bill-outlaws-use-of-fetuses-in-food-industry-meets-visceral-reaction?sc=tw

darkjustice
01-27-2012, 10:37 AM
whaa

Goatchella
01-27-2012, 10:43 AM
Do whatever the fuck you want. GMO, stem cell burgers, antibiotic slave animals ect

But let us do what we want, raw organic dairy, heirloom natural seed stock, free range animals ect.
Label your mutant products accordingly with a surgeon general warning just like cigarettes and label natural grown organic shit .

Then let people have FREEDOM to decide.

darkjustice
01-27-2012, 10:50 AM
synthetic meat will be a fact of life for humans that end up colonizing other planets. yum.

chairmenmeow47
01-27-2012, 11:32 AM
http://www.filmcritic.com/features/assets_c/2010/04/Soylent_Green_MCDSOGR_EC002_H-thumb-560xauto-28443.jpg

PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 11:40 AM
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PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 11:42 AM
mSmWLYPauXY

PlayaDelWes
01-27-2012, 11:47 AM
Senomyx.

GuyInTucson
01-27-2012, 12:18 PM
http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/c/christopher-reeve-645-75.jpg

RedHotSgtPeppers
01-27-2012, 12:24 PM
Ugh. I'm embarrassed to be from that state.

TomAz
01-27-2012, 12:34 PM
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortorder/2011/03/are_aborted_fetus_cells_helpin.php


Are Aborted Fetus Cells Helping to Make Your Diet Pepsi Sweeter?
By Laine Doss
published: Thu., Mar. 31 2011 @ 9:07AM

​The Christian media is swarming with accusations that Senomyx, a San Diego-based research and development company, whose clients include food heavy-hitters Nestle, Campbell's Soup, Kraft Foods, and PepsiCo, is conducting research with HEK293, originally derived from human embryonic kidney cells.

These accusations began with an action alert issued by Largo, Florida-based Children of God for Life, a nonprofit, pro-life organization focused on the "bioethical issues of human cloning, embryonic, and fetal tissue research." In the alert, Debi Vinnedge, executive director of Children of God, calls for the public to "boycott products of major food companies that are partnering with Senomyx, a biotech company that produces artificial flavor enhancers, unless the company stops using aborted fetal cell lines to test their products."

On the company website, Senomyx describes research to find new ways to improve food flavors by taking advantage of the mouth's taste receptors. If you recall junior high school biology, the mouth can really taste only five flavors -- sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and glutamate. The company is using isolated human taste receptors in the form of proteins to identify flavors and enhance them.

Gwen Rosenberg, vice president of investor relations and corporate communications for Senomyx, described the process as "basically a robotic tasting system." She depicted rows of little plastic square dishes with hundreds of tiny indentations in each dish. A protein is placed in each indentation, then a flavor. If the protein reacts to the flavor, the results are charted. If the new flavor (of which the company has more than 800,000) is successful with the protein test, the company then conducts taste tests with (live) adult humans.

Asked about the action alert, Rosenberg said, "We don't discuss details of our research, but you won't find anything on our website about HEK293." I asked Rosenberg if Senomyx had a position on stem cell research. "We've never been asked that," she replied, "We don't have a position on anything. We're dedicated to finding new flavors to reduce sugars and reduce salt. Our focus is to help consumers with diabetes or high blood pressure have a better quality of life."

Though Rosenberg states there is nothing on the company website linking Senomyx with HEK293, a little Googling turned up a patent issued in 2008 for "Recombinant Methods for Expressing a Functional Sweet Taste Receptor," in which a line item mentions HEK293.

So what exactly is HEK293? It's a cell line that started in the 1970s from human embryonic kidney cells. The line was cultured by scientist Alex Van der Eb in the early 1970s at his lab at the University of Leiden, Holland. Since then, the cell line has been cultured and grown in laboratories (you can buy some here). It's primary use is as a protein or a protein vessel -- sort of a natural test tube. It's also pretty common and seems to be available at most laboratory supply companies and used by many R&D facilities. In short, maybe not such a big deal.

So what does all of this mean? Is this "action alert" yet another rant by the right wing to draw attention to itself and delay scientific progress? In my opinion, yes. Children of God for Life has also issued news releases warning parents that childhood vaccines are made with aborted fetus cells. The cells they're talking about have "technically" originated from aborted fetus cells, but it's not like scientists are putting fetus body parts into blenders while laughing. Think of the fetus cells as sort of "ancient ancestors" to the new cells that are readily used today as "building blocks" and receptors in many commonplace scientific experiments in universities, hospitals, and commercial labs.

I would rather see cells being cultivated and grown in labs for use in experiments than the heinous wholesale torture and experimentation on laboratory animals. True, some of the experimentation is frivolous (who gives a rat's ass about finding out if something is sweeter than sugar -- use sugar sparingly and let's call it a day), but evil? I think not. This seems like just another way the religious right wants to set science and progress back to the "good old days" -- when people died from the common cold and the only way you could sweeten your iced tea was with sugar.

PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 12:47 PM
Stupid conclusion. The religious right arent trying to delay scientific progress, they're just confused.

GuyInTucson
01-27-2012, 12:49 PM
Stupid conclusion. The religious right arent trying to delay scientific progress, they're just confused.

Shut the fuck up.

Goatchella
01-27-2012, 01:00 PM
Jesus loves refined cane sugar

PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 01:00 PM
Shut the fuck up.

http://nationalpostarts.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/sheep.jpg?w=620

SoulDischarge
01-27-2012, 01:01 PM
Aborted pig fetuses are much tastier, and you can play Lord Of The Flies with the leftovers.

GuyInTucson
01-27-2012, 01:06 PM
Aborted pig fetuses are much tastier, and you can play Lord Of The Flies with the leftovers.


lulz

Awesome post, Patrick.

SoulDischarge
01-27-2012, 01:08 PM
I feel like I was trying too hard. Yet I always hit "Post" because I have no quality control. Living life on the edge.

PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 01:08 PM
You know what isn't an awesome post?


lulz

Awesome post, Patrick.

GuyInTucson
01-27-2012, 01:10 PM
You know what isn't an awesome post?

Do you not know what "shut the fuck up" means? You senile motherfucker.

PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 01:10 PM
Take it to the chat room Pfizer.

TomAz
01-27-2012, 01:12 PM
Stupid conclusion.

Yes, but it was the only background article I could find that bothered to include actual facts.

PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 01:20 PM
You tried to assign by proxy an indicator of intelligent action to Big God proponents. We all saw it. I practically smelled it here in my embryonic fluid bathysphere. No weasel words will extricate you from this situation. TomAz = Thomas Kinkade. Pay it forward.

Stickjohn
01-27-2012, 01:22 PM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXQBBjuHTvtj4i0vY9w8yjshbbOSHMb bn8W4vNzcLf2sFb4kA7Mg

PotVsKtl
01-27-2012, 01:24 PM
That one's encephalitic. I'd bread it.

jackstraw94086
01-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Stupid conclusion. The religious right arent trying to delay scientific progress, they're just confused.

confusion abound.

chairmenmeow47
01-27-2012, 01:27 PM
I feel like I was trying too hard. Yet I always hit "Post" because I have no quality control. Living life on the edge.

the board awards have gone to your head.

SoulDischarge
01-27-2012, 01:29 PM
People eat shit like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_Bunting If we can shove it down our mouth without dying immediately after, it's fair game.

Goatchella
01-27-2012, 06:39 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h296/tntinucci/hydr%20farm/2012/2dac47d2.jpg

BROKENDOLL
01-28-2012, 10:56 AM
You catch the ortolan with a net spread up in the forest canopy. Take it alive. Take it home. Poke out its eyes and put it in a small cage. Force-feed it oats and millet and figs until it has swollen to four times its normal size. Drown it in brandy. Roast it whole, in an oven at high heat, for six to eight minutes. Bring it to the table. Place a cloth—a napkin will do—over your head to hide your cruelty from the sight of God. Put the whole bird into your mouth, with only the beak protruding from your lips. Bite. Put the beak on your plate and begin chewing, gently. You will taste three things: First, the sweetness of the flesh and fat. This is God. Then, the bitterness of the guts will begin to overwhelm you. This is the suffering of Jesus. Finally, as your teeth break the small, delicate bones and they begin to lacerate your gums, you will taste the salt of your own blood, mingling with the richness of the fat and the bitterness of the organs. This is the Holy Spirit, the mystery of the Trinity—three united as one. It is cruel. And beautiful.[QUOTE]
" Shaaaarroooonnn!!!" (Ozzy Osbourne upon learning the difference between birds and bats.)
[QUOTE=SoulDischarge;2368601]People eat shit like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_Bunting If we can shove it down our mouth without dying immediately after, it's fair game.
Patrick's opinion on eating little birds and sucking dick...

the board awards have gone to your head.
Either that, or he was force fed Oats, Millet, and Figs while growing up.

BROKENDOLL
01-28-2012, 10:58 AM
And before anybody goes biting my head off for fucking up a quote, let it be known that I will never tell another person who asks about my having children, that "I would eat my young..."