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mmsk123
01-13-2012, 12:58 PM
Camping passes are non transferable by themselves. They will only work when scanned with the festival pass it was ordered with originally.

How strict do you guys think this is going to be? How will they even enforce this unless your GA ticket number is printed on the camping pass or something?

BeaverCat
01-13-2012, 01:09 PM
I'm curios about this as well, but all we can do is wait and see. I'm certain that the website will be updated with this information soon.

Stickjohn
01-13-2012, 01:09 PM
The passes and wristbands all have bar codes and are scanned.

BeaverCat
01-13-2012, 01:13 PM
From another thread:


"Please note: Camping passes are non transferable by themselves. They will only work when scanned with the festival pass it was ordered with originally. If you bought multiple festival passes and one camping pass, the camping pass will only be valid with the first one from your group that arrives. This is to help thwart scalping of camping passes and making camping available to actual onsite campers."

moxie990
01-13-2012, 01:29 PM
I'm sure they'll clarify this as it gets closer, but that quote is a little confusing. "they'll only be valid with the first one from your group that arrives" ... so what if security scans someone's wristband first before scanning the wristband of the person who bought the camping pass? As in, if there are 4 people in a car waiting to go in, only one persons wrist band will correlate to that camping pass and if security doesn't scan that person's pass first, then they're screwed?

That can't be the case. I'm confident this won't be a problem come April, because that makes no sense. I'm sure it's something more along the lines that as long as someones pass in the car matches the camping pass you're all good.

JustSteve
01-13-2012, 01:32 PM
any wristband from the order will work with the camping pass. will only scan once so you can't go out and come back in and get another spot with another wristband from the order. what is there to clarify?

Stickjohn
01-13-2012, 01:36 PM
Makes sense sir, but I think the idea was that the four people had ordered separately (and one of them had bought the camping pass.)

It should still be fine - people just need to be aware who purchased the camping pass and make sure that person is there first or at the same time as the others.

mmsk123
01-13-2012, 01:36 PM
any wristband from the order will work with the camping pass. will only scan once so you can't go out and come back in and get another spot with another wristband from the order. what is there to clarify?

So if you bought 4 tix + camping pass, somehow the camping pass will know which 4 tix exactly were from the same order?

bobert
01-13-2012, 01:39 PM
So if you bought 4 tix + camping pass, somehow the camping pass will know which 4 tix exactly were from the same order?

No, the camping pass will not know which tics were from the same order. But Goldenvoice's computers do/will. As will the scanners that security will be using to check your camping pass and festival passes. Is this really that hard to comprehend?

aphrael
01-13-2012, 02:00 PM
Was scalping of camping tickets actually a problem, as opposed to scalping of festival tickets? *puzzled look*

moxie990
01-13-2012, 02:06 PM
any wristband from the order will work with the camping pass. will only scan once so you can't go out and come back in and get another spot with another wristband from the order. what is there to clarify?

Ahhhh, the rudeness of the messages boards is certainly a welcome reprise from the idiocy of the facebook page!!

There's nothing to clarify from your post. I was posing a different angle from which to view this "issue" from. Stickjohn hit the nail on the head in that I can see it causing issues in the security lines if people aren't made aware that they're camping pass will be invalidated if the proper wrist band isn't scanned first.

I don't personally have an problem as I ordered my camping pass with my wristband, so there's no confusion on my end, just someone pointing out something that could become an issue, that's all!

bobert
01-13-2012, 02:29 PM
Was scalping of camping tickets actually a problem, as opposed to scalping of festival tickets? *puzzled look*

Yes. Camping passes have always been the biggest problem from a scalping standpoint. They are cheaper than festival passes and there are far less to go around. In previous years I believe you could buy as many as 8 camping passes on a single order, and there were people selling them for 10x face value. This needed to be done.

imapixie
01-13-2012, 03:21 PM
well i'm screwed then. not that i want to scalp mine, but my friend and i were both trying for tickets all morning and apparently both got car camping passes for weekend two. i was only able to pull up one festival pass, as was she. obviously we don't need two car camping passes, nor will we even be able to use both spaces since we're going in one car. i was going to just sell it for face or best offer...and now...bah.

bobert
01-13-2012, 03:24 PM
well i'm screwed then. not that i want to scalp mine, but my friend and i were both trying for tickets all morning and apparently both got car camping passes for weekend two. i was only able to pull up one festival pass, as was she. obviously we don't need two car camping passes, nor will we even be able to use both spaces since we're going in one car. i was going to just sell it for face or best offer...and now...bah.

One of you can trade your festival pass + car camping pass to someone else for a weekend 2 festival pass + cash. Problem solved.

ManImCool
01-13-2012, 03:30 PM
It's several months away. You can easily find some people willing to buy that camping pass from you that are also willing to drive in with you at the same time so that they could actually use it.

Or what bobert said.

imapixie
01-13-2012, 03:32 PM
One of you can trade your festival pass + car camping pass to someone else for a weekend 2 festival pass + cash. Problem solved.

I thought of that, then I read on the frontgate facebook that all someone would have to do to make their wristband not valid is call and report it stolen...I'm scuuuurrreeeddd...

ManImCool
01-13-2012, 03:34 PM
Well then do what I said. Problem solved. If you put out an ad or even just on facebook to your personal friends that says "Hey I have an extra car camping pass for sale - the catch is, we have to meet up and drive in together and be neighbors all weekend" you'll still sell that thing easily. Unless you're a douche and no one wants to be your neighbor.

And also back to bobert's idea - just trade with someone you know personally that won't scam you. Everyone has friends going to Coachella that aren't in their groups - there's a good chance you know someone personally that can trade with you.

bobert
01-13-2012, 03:36 PM
I thought of that, then I read on the frontgate facebook that all someone would have to do to make their wristband not valid is call and report it stolen...I'm scuuuurrreeeddd...

You're right. There is no logical or reasonable solution to your problem.

Inthecolumbiagorge
01-13-2012, 03:41 PM
There are bound to be issues with this. My husband purchased one ticket and one camping pass but now he has to fly down to Palm Springs and not arrive until Friday and will take a shuttle or something for a ride from the airport to the venue. The rest of us are driving down in multiple cars and want to arrive on Thursday morning so we need to work it out for one of us to be able to use his camping pass because we will have his vehicle. We will call next week and see what can be done. The rules change each year it would seem.

imapixie
01-13-2012, 03:43 PM
Well then do what I said. Problem solved. If you put out an ad or even just on facebook to your personal friends that says "Hey I have an extra car camping pass for sale - the catch is, we have to meet up and drive in together and be neighbors all weekend" you'll still sell that thing easily. Unless you're a douche and no one wants to be your neighbor.

And also back to bobert's idea - just trade with someone you know personally that won't scam you. Everyone has friends going to Coachella that aren't in their groups - there's a good chance you know someone personally that can trade with you.


I shall try. *crossing fingers* I'm not a douche...I'm pretty friendly. :) Thanks!

crunkchick96
01-13-2012, 04:50 PM
I will trade with you! I have a weekend two 3 day pass, but did not get the car camping with it unfortunately. We could figure out a way to exchange!!!! :) I am in your exact opposite position, so that would make my dreams come true! Since I can't just buy a car camping pass alone now that I already have my normal ticket. Please let me know, I am very serious and very trustworthy!

ZZERO
01-13-2012, 09:39 PM
Please let me know, I am very serious and very trustworthy!

I Like how your name is "crunk chick".

Neighborhood Creep
01-13-2012, 09:41 PM
I can't see them turning you down if you show up with a legit camping pass if it isn't under your name. Who knows though

wstsidela
01-14-2012, 12:16 AM
Ahhhh, the rudeness of the messages boards is certainly a welcome reprise from the idiocy of the facebook page!!

:rotfl Aint that the truth.

dancefreak
01-14-2012, 08:00 AM
There are bound to be issues with this. My husband purchased one ticket and one camping pass but now he has to fly down to Palm Springs and not arrive until Friday and will take a shuttle or something for a ride from the airport to the venue. The rest of us are driving down in multiple cars and want to arrive on Thursday morning so we need to work it out for one of us to be able to use his camping pass because we will have his vehicle. We will call next week and see what can be done. The rules change each year it would seem.

Extremely easy solution...

You give your husband your wristband (one not linked or solely linked to a camping pass)

Your husband gives you the camping pass and his wristband it's linked to


Problem solved.

insbordnat
01-18-2012, 09:10 AM
I'm bumping this thread because of the number of solo car camping passes I see on eBay/Stubhub. People are buying these up but from the way things look they'll be turned down. I see this being a big disaster for the people buying them and getting turned away as well for those selling them on Stubhub (unknowing of the non-transferability).

dancefreak
01-18-2012, 09:44 AM
The people buying will be taken care of by stubhub via their guarantee. Those selling deserve to be screwed. Their own problem for not reading the restrictions before trying to scalp.

insbordnat
01-18-2012, 09:53 AM
The people buying will be taken care of by stubhub via their guarantee. Those selling deserve to be screwed. Their own problem for not reading the restrictions before trying to scalp.

The people buying will NOT be taken care of by Stubhub. How can Stubhub help you when you have no place to stay? Big fucking deal, you've gotten your money back. You think they will refund what you paid for the wristbands as well because you've been turned away? Howabout no place to park your car overnight? Unfortunately there is nothing Stubhub can do to make you whole here.

Clark Griswald
01-18-2012, 10:36 AM
While I think something like this was necessary, I'm imagining it causing quite the clusterfuck in the security check in lines for car camping. So many people are going to get to the front of the line in their cars and have their camping pass fail because they're not with the original purchaser.

Now if everyone read the instructions carefully and followed the rules accordingly, there wouldn't be much of an issue. But as we all know, and coachella's facebook page will attest to, the large majority of people are idiots. Here's to arriving early Thursday!

Stickjohn
01-18-2012, 11:06 AM
This is the first year I can remember that Camping passes did not sell out before festival passes.

ManImCool
01-18-2012, 11:44 AM
This is the first year I can remember that Camping passes did not sell out before festival passes.

Well, yeah.. because scalpers technically can't buy them. Coachella implemented an anti-scalping-of-camping-passes policy and it worked.

But seriously, is there anything that can be done to get Stubhub to pull their camping passes? As mentioned, it really is a lose-lose situation since ZERO camping transactions will succesfully complete once Coachella has come and gone. While buyers may be protected in that they get their money back, they will still be homeless, so screwed. Sellers will also be screwed when they not only don't make any money off of a sale, but also have to probably pay penalties as well, and lose money rather than break even, in the process. I don't really feel bad for the sellers though, their fault for not being smart enough to realize they can't sell them on stubhub for any profit.

ManImCool
01-19-2012, 09:33 AM
I just noticed car companion passes also on stubhub... are those non-transferable too? Or are those fair game and stubhub is actually selling something that people might not get screwed over on later?

bobert
01-19-2012, 09:58 AM
I just noticed car companion passes also on stubhub... are those non-transferable too? Or are those fair game and stubhub is actually selling something that people might not get screwed over on later?

Companion passes don't have any restrictions. Goldenvoice should really notify Stub-Hub and tell them to remove the car camping passes from their site, unless they are sold with a valid festival pass. Otherwise they are going to have a real shit show on their hands in the security lines. If I paid $500 for a camping pass and then had some security guard tell me that pass was valid, just not for me, I'd probably hop in my car and punch the gas, regardless of who was standing in front of me.

microcuts
01-19-2012, 09:58 AM
Car companion is just for parking, so that's probably exempt from the camping rules.

I find it hard to feel bad for anyone selling/buying camping passes on stubhub, because the rules are very clearly laid out. Anyone that buys them obviously doesn't care to read.

moxie990
01-19-2012, 10:34 AM
Car companion is just for parking, so that's probably exempt from the camping rules.

I find it hard to feel bad for anyone selling/buying camping passes on stubhub, because the rules are very clearly laid out. Anyone that buys them obviously doesn't care to read.

That's how I feel too! There seems to be hundreds, if not thousands, of people that are just utterly clueless (just go look at the facebook page's comments ... it's sickening to me to see so many retarded people!). The only thing that's going to suck is if those idiots ruin what was actually a pretty decent procedure last year. I know some had trouble keeping their groups together, but that's honestly a small problem compared to what could happen if they actually enforce the non-transferability of camping passes.