What if Skrillex gets booked next year AND billed much higher?

[Electrotek]

I don't know how I'd react if that happens

[nosurprises12]

It's pretty simple, actually; you go see something else and move on with your life.

[GuyInTucson]

It's pretty simple, actually; you go see something else and move on with your life.

This^^^

Although it would still irritate the living fuck out of me.

[Electrotek]

This^^^

Although it would still irritate the living fuck out of me.

lol yeah indeed, especially if he ends up being a Main Stage headliner

[GuyInTucson]

That won't happen.

[nathanfairchild]

lol yeah indeed, especially if he ends up being a Main Stage headliner

YEAH BECAUSE SKRILLEX COULD TOTALLY HEADLINE THE MAIN STAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Principal Onyx Blackman]

I don't know how I'd react if that happens

You shrug it off and see something else. HERP DERP.

[Electrotek]

You shrug it off and see something else. HERP DERP.

And then get on the forums and bitch about it in a thread with over 1,000+ posts haha :P

[nathanfairchild]

And then get on the forums and bitch about it in a thread with over 1,000+ posts haha :P

is that what you were hoping to achieve by making this pointless thread?

[Electrotek]

is that what you were hoping to achieve by making this pointless thread?

U mad brah?

[LickTheLizzard]

That won't happen.

When I read this post, I heard it in Ron Swanson's voice.

[noolan]

The old post count line!

[Gigger]

Wouldnt be surprised at all.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

The ramifications ... they ... they need a thread.

[SoulDischarge]

I'm moving to Canada if it happens.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

But I mean ... what if?

[SoulDischarge]

If Skrillex is booked next year, he'll lower frozen lemonade prices. And that's a promise.

[guedita]

I just want free sodas and a longer recess period.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

I don't get why you fucks aren't taking this seriously. What are we going to do?

[KidRobot]

The inquiry about Skrillex on the main stage...LMFAO.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

The inquiry about Skrillex on the main stage...LMFAO.

Yes, that inquiry.

[higgybaby23]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/30179-4249-33553-1-what-if-_super.jpg

[NachoCat]

Some guy at my work thinks the Earth is only 6000 years old and dinosaurs were alive with humans.

This is almost three times more likely to be true than skrilly on the main.

[Mugwog]

I would probably convince Kanye West to join me in throwing fish sticks at him.

Kanye totally gets the joke now guys, its cool.

[heart cooks brain]

Skrilly

[WhyTheLongFace]

He deserves it. He's swiftly climbing the ranks into the EDM hall of fame. He's so hot right now.

[SoulDischarge]

Skrillex's face should be on the $20 bill.

[GuyInTucson]

I heard he found the cure for AIDS.

[SoulDischarge]

You just put your immune system next to the speakers at one of his shows and instant cure.

[WhyTheLongFace]

Does anyone else hear a heavy Skrillex influence in Underworld "dubnobasswithmyheadman"?

[Ross1492]

Skrillex and the clown house of SHM et al has me longing for the halcyon days of Ed Banger's brand of cheap EDM.

Who knows what parade of horribles Sahara 2012 will have on offer ...

[SoulDischarge]

Kazoostep.

[Ross1492]

Moombahton was mentioned in another thread.

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Yikes.

[SoulDischarge]

That's nowhere near as bad as Skrillex and SHM. Not something I'd want to sit through a whole set of but not laughably awful. Just run of the mill who-gives-a-fuck.

[Ross1492]

Fair play.

I'm nonplussed about all of it. Just hoping GV pulls through with 3-4 stellar house/techno acts.

[CellarOwl]

He deserves it. He's swiftly climbing the ranks into the EDM hall of fame. He's so hot right now.

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[psychic friend]

did anyone post this pic yet?

http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/funny-facebook-fails-description-win1.jpg

[ZachTheEskimo]

Skrillex playing worked wonders at Hard Summer, I was told. Got everyone away from the cool shit.

[rag and bone]

Dear god...

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee460/everythingraindrops/Screenshot2011-09-13at33115PM.png

[guedita]

It's true. Skrillex makes "music" that people "dance" to.

[frazzles]

Dear god...

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee460/everythingraindrops/Screenshot2011-09-13at33115PM.png

5/5 for having some of the shittiest names define this "new rave" generation...

[mclovin_it]

5/5 for having some of the shittiest names define this "new rave" generation...

I could care less about Diplo, deadmau5, etc but Justice are Gods

[jonesjupiter]

Either Skrillex will be there or Deadmau5 will be closing out the main stage. You're crazy if you think otherwise. Easy money...

[Gribbz]

Either Skrillex will be there or Deadmau5 will be closing out the main stage. You're crazy if you think otherwise. Easy money...

Aren't you the same guy that's convinced My Morning Jacket will headline?

[guedita]

It is astounding how stupid some of you are. Skrillex on the mainstage because Coachella needs easy money? Really? I guess so. Yeah. Coachella won't sell out without Skrillex on the mainstage.

[Boourns]

Skrillex on the cover of spin? That is even worse than all the times they put fall out boy on the front.

[Bons222000]

Either Skrillex will be there or Deadmau5 will be closing out the main stage. You're crazy if you think otherwise. Easy money...

Coachella get acts as huge as Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Prince, Radiohead, Bjork, Madonna, Jay Z, Daft Punk. It sells out so quickly that they had to make two weekends for it.

But I'm sure GV is holding closed-door meetings saying, "What are we going to do if we can't get Skrillex? If we don't get him or Deadmau5 we may as well cancel the festival. We can't make any $ without them."

Skrillex played at 330 pm on Friday. And he brought out fucking Korn.

[jonesjupiter]

Aren't you the same guy that's convinced My Morning Jacket will headline?


Not convinced, just high typically.

Deadmau5 just seems like an easy choice for main stage closer.

We got stuck with KOL last year because the powers that be love "side stage to main stage" success stories. He has plenty of die hards, a new stage, has slowly become a household name, and headlined a major festival less than a year ago.

Just seems like a simple, likely addition. Let's just hope I'm wrong and that's that.



Coachella get acts as huge as Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Prince, Radiohead, Bjork, Madonna, Jay Z, Daft Punk.

Yeah, they did used to book great artists like that didn't they.



It sells out so quickly that they had to make two weekends for it.

You're right, Chella's an easy sell out these days. Even with KOL at the helm, it's a sell out. Maybe even with bands like the Foo Fighters who I saw at a surprisingly empty pavilion show, not really so long ago. They'll always have great reunions, cutting edge artists, and sure even a few big names.

But typically it's just "whose on tour?" and fill slots from there.

[GuyInTucson]

deadmau5 pretty much debuted his last album at Coachella 2010. He has no new material released and I haven't heard whether or not anything is in the plans for new material. So unless he releases another album between now and the middle of 2012, I highly doubt he will be on the lineup, let alone closing the main stage.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Skrillex on the cover of spin? That is even worse than all the times they put fall out boy on the front.

Isn't the focus of Spin popular music? What do you expect?

NOTE: I probably haven't even seen a cover of Spin in 5 years

[Boourns]

The fiver closing the main in 2013 seems more likely, if not inevitable.

[Bons222000]

Yeah, they did used to book great artists like that didn't they.

You're right, Chella's an easy sell out these days. Even with KOL at the helm, it's a sell out. Maybe even with bands like the Foo Fighters who I saw at a surprisingly empty pavilion show, not really so long ago. They'll always have great reunions, cutting edge artists, and sure even a few big names.

But typically it's just "whose on tour?" and fill slots from there.

I don't see what any of this has to do with my point that Coachella doesn't need Skrillex to sell tickets.

[guedita]

deadmau5 pretty much debuted his last album at Coachella 2010. He has no new material released and I haven't heard whether or not anything is in the plans for new material. So unless he releases another album between now and the middle of 2012, I highly doubt he will be on the lineup, let alone closing the main stage.

He just released a new album and he has an entirely new visual set up he's been touring.

[GuyInTucson]

He just released a new album and he has an entirely new visual set up he's been touring.

After 4x4=12? Haven't heard about it. He played a good portion of 4x4=12 at Coachella.

[Bons222000]

Isn't the focus of Spin popular music? What do you expect?

NOTE: I probably haven't even seen a cover of Spin in 5 years

I saw Thom Yorke on the cover of SPIN magazine at LAX about two years ago, so I bought it for the plane ride. When I got around to reading it, I saw the focus of the article was "biggest myths of music", which made me gag. Amongst what they wrote:

-People think Radiohead are great, but they actually "kinda blow" (and they sucked at APW festival)
-ICP are very talented artists
-Paul McCartney is the antichrist, because people think he's the sweet Beatle but he actually made some hard-edged tunes
-Lady Gaga is amazing
-Nirvana, Biggie, and Tupac are irrelevent

I think that's all you need to know about SPIN. I haven't seen a cover of the magazine since then either.

[Mugwog]

That cover looks like a tampon ad.
"Kotex's new tampon is so sleek and discreet, you can hide it while throwing out some deuces, so now you dont have to worry about finding your macbook charger AND a leaky mess at the same time."


Deadmau5 closing mainstage is just an awful idea. That's an even bigger bummer than Gorillaz closing with "cloud of unknowing" and showing up without half of their performers.

[guedita]

After 4x4=12? Haven't heard about it. He played a good portion of 4x4=12 at Coachella.

I thought that album just came out for some reason. Bloop beep beep blooooooooooP.

[nathanfairchild]

if it weren't for the free subscriptions i keep getting from ticketmaster i don't think i'd have ever read spin.

[Ross1492]

Phillip Sherburne, writer of the SPIN article at issue, is one of the few bonafide critics of EDM and its attendant culture. Reading this, I get the distinct impression that he hasn't been forthright with his genuine views as to the music of Skrillex et al. Nothing in his prior writings suggests he would regard it with anything other than utter antipathy.

Having said that, he's bang on re: the matter of Daft Punk @ Coachella opening the flood gates.

[Mugwog]

So many writers dickride artist and promoters so they get free tickets which is unfair to the readers, it seems as there is no honesty in music journalism anymore. Critics are called haters, but I prefer to not waste my time or recommend people waste their money on overrated acts. The 90s and early 2000s spoiled me with amazing music. I find it it sad that magazines have fallen to the have their balls in a vice by ads, promoters and $$$, instead of pushing the envelope and really letting the people know whats up.

Dubstep was interesting when it first popped on to the scene, but its like a movie with no plot, it goes nowhere and loses the bells and whistles after about 15 minutes.

[menikmati]

Every blogger needs to be at these shows.

[choice cat]

The fiver closing the main in 2013 seems more likely, if not inevitable.

That's what I've been saying.


He just released a new album and he has an entirely new visual set up he's been touring.

The set up is not entirely new, rather the same old cube debuted in the Sahara 2010 with essentially a software update and mainly new visuals. He did add two little cubes to the side actually, that part is entirely new.


After 4x4=12? Haven't heard about it. He played a good portion of 4x4=12 at Coachella.

There wasn't really any material on that that was new upon its release, maybe a couple filler tracks but nothing major, except the not so cleverly mis done math equation. Cool I guess?

Deadmau5 doesn't need a new album to close the main at any time in the near future, I agree with Boourns on 2013 but it will be whenever he is ready to take his set up to the next level, meaning ditching the now almost 2 year old cube and getting something entirely new. Probably 2013, but I don't think 2012 is entirely out of the question. That would be pretty lazy booking though, for certain. This will happen sooner than later and I think it will be pretty cool. I think someone like Justice is more appropriate for closing the main this year.

[Ross1492]

Right - but there is absolutely NO WAY Phillip Sherburne has any interest in free tickets to Skrillex shows. I'm thinking he envisioned this piece as a 50,000 ft view of a growing trend.

Too bad he didn't lend his considerable talents to a critical commentary on the music itself.

[choice cat]

deadmau5 pretty much debuted his last album at Coachella 2010. He has no new material released and I haven't heard whether or not anything is in the plans for new material. So unless he releases another album between now and the middle of 2012, I highly doubt he will be on the lineup, let alone closing the main stage.

and ps, there have been some newly released tracks from dm5 like "professional griefers" and "where are my keys?"

[Ross1492]

Re: Sherburne - this is a guy that coined the phrase micro-house. Not exactly a jonny-come-lately to the world of EDM.

[Mugwog]

Sherburne's girlfriend who works at Urban Outfitters told him "Babes I totez wanna see Skrillex, can u get tickets?"
There was a brief pause for the journalist. He had no idea what Skrillex was. Something like The Knife maybe?
Sherburne studied her nubile body and reflected on his old hands.
"I'll make a call.."

[nathanfairchild]

I think someone like Justice is more appropriate for closing the main this year.

Am I the only one that doesn't think justice is big enough to close the main stage?

[Mugwog]

All you need is that picture of Justice playing with their mixers unplugged
http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/3285/32850387cc89c1796b6e8f7274a8d1d157df6a8.jpg

[choice cat]

Am I the only one that doesn't think justice is big enough to close the main stage?

Actually you're not by any means, I've had conversations with a couple other boardies who share your opinion.

But my point in that is, if they for certain want an EDM act to close the main one night out of the weekend who else could it be? Swedish House Mafia? when two of its members just played last year with what would be almost identical sets (I really hope GV doesn't go for this). Keep in mind Justice as a dj set headlined Saturday of Hard Haunted mansion 09, with DM5 headlining Friday, and I think when they had some names released for that event before announcing it was 2 days Justice was the over all headliner. Can't be certain but that sounds about right to me.

There aren't that many edm names big enough to qualify for this spot, so much so that they would be too big to close the Sahara IMHO.

[guedita]

Keep in mind the EDM artists who have closed out the main stage in the last two years have been hugely wide known EDM artists for well over a decade.

[Gribbz]

Keep in mind Coachella doesn't have a line-up formula.

An EDM act doesn't have to close out the main stage.

[guedita]

No, Dale Gribble. They do and one will because it's happened two years in a row and that is how scientific consensus works. Have you heard about global warming?

[choice cat]

Keep in mind the EDM artists who have closed out the main stage in the last two years have been hugely wide known EDM artists for well over a decade.

absolutely right, but the EDM "scene" has blown up to its biggest point in its still mostly short existence. Artists like Deadmau5 and Skrillex are cashing in as those who got lucky to be huge right on the brink of the scene also becoming huge.


Keep in mind Coachella doesn't have a line-up formula.

An EDM act doesn't have to close out the main stage.

I agree with that, but in 2011 I think it might have to be. EDM is the hottest thing out there right now and I think the people want that formula now more than ever.

[guedita]

Blowing up? What are you talking about? Kids have been paying exorbitant amounts of money to see shitty DJs DJ shitty music in southern california for over a decade.

[choice cat]

How about this, compare a crowd shot of the coliseum for EDC 2008, and EDC 2010.

[GuyInTucson]

Blowing up? What are you talking about? Kids have been paying exorbitant amounts of money to see shitty DJs DJ shitty music in southern california for over a decade.

This is true... I used to do it... before it was mainstream.

[GuyInTucson]

Keep in mind the EDM artists who have closed out the main stage in the last two years have been hugely wide known EDM artists for well over a decade.

Bassnectar is breaking that trend in 2012 David Guedita, didn't you hear?

[guedita]

Lil Jon was my favorite EDM DJ at EDC in 2010. Dude spun on six decks.

[choice cat]

Although I am hesitant to really trust wikipedia this is what they said:

EDC 2008 (1 day):
Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and Expo Park in Los Angeles, CA. Attendance was unexpectedly double that of the previous year, causing massive lines and long waits. (Attendance 65,000) The organizers promised to reduce the wait for the next year.

EDC 2010 (2 days):
It is estimated that over 185,000 people attended LA's Electric Daisy Carnival over Friday and Saturday at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

so double from 2007, then almost triple from 2008-10.

[darksideofkaos.]

Skrillex would never close out the main stage. However, he will start headlining raves the world round but there wouldn't be a big enough draw for him at a festival like Coachella.

If he were to close out the main stage I don't know what I would do it would be devastating...

Oh wait I have fucking legs and can move to another stage to see different acts.

[guedita]

Although I am hesitant to really trust wikipedia this is what they said:

EDC 2008 (1 day):
Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and Expo Park in Los Angeles, CA. Attendance was unexpectedly double that of the previous year, causing massive lines and long waits. (Attendance 65,000) The organizers promised to reduce the wait for the next year.

EDC 2010 (2 days):
It is estimated that over 185,000 people attended LA's Electric Daisy Carnival over Friday and Saturday at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

so double from 2007, then almost triple from 2008-10.

This has been discussed so many times on this board, especially right after EDC 2010. There were 185,000 people over 2 days. Use division.

[choice cat]

Ok, lets use division. Still 92,500 per day. 27,500 more people attending an event that has grown to two days in less than two years. That's not blowing up at all huh.

[guedita]

I guess it shouldn't be mentioned that Insomniac probably sold more tickets to begin with and that the population of the world increases every year. Yes. 2010 was when the EDM scene finally blew up.

[obzen]

Isn't the focus of Spin popular music? What do you expect?

NOTE: I probably haven't even seen a cover of Spin in 5 years


Annie Clark was on the cover last month...







dick.

[Boourns]

I guess they've always had someone popular but completely without merit on the cover every once in a while that will be seen as an embarrassment a few years later.

Had a free subscription from 1993-1999. Wish I still had some of those issues.

[WhyTheLongFace]

Are we really arguing whether EDM has gotten more popular in the last 3 years or not? I mean Deadmau5 is at the VMAs and the NBA All Star Game. Diplo is selling cell phones and Switch is producing for Beyonce. An EDM based touring festival just finished and sans the LA date was a success. I really don't see how you can ignore the rise

[choice cat]

I guess it shouldn't be mentioned that Insomniac probably sold more tickets to begin with and that the population of the world increases every year. Yes. 2010 was when the EDM scene finally blew up.

What do you even mean Insomniac probably sold more tickets to begin with? Yeah the population does grow every year. It probably grew a lot since the year 2000. But that doesn't even matter because those kids would have been 10 years old maximum. It's funny that your sarcasm here actually is going against you. Because it is in fact true.

[guedita]

I'm only contesting the assertion EDM wasn't popular amongst large groups of people until recently. Sure. Shitty electronic music is now being featured in commercials. So I guess the scene has blown up.

[choice cat]

I never made that assertion, so I don't know what you were contesting in the first place. More just like contesting something that you were completely wrong about, just to do it and make noise. I guess.

[guedita]

Blowing up? What are you talking about? Kids have been paying exorbitant amounts of money to see shitty DJs DJ shitty music in southern california for over a decade.

I was not wrong. Neither were you. I guess.

[frizzlefry]

I started listening to EDM on a regular basis a couple years ago...must be blowing up

[guedita]

I mostly just find it aggravating that so many contributors to this board seem to think that the entirety of the EDM music scene is to be judged and analyzed from EDC and HARD events. Southern California is not the barometer for the actual EDM scene at large.

[choice cat]

Your right it is not THE barometer but it certainly is a big player in the EDM scene at large. One of the biggest, if not THE biggest in the United States. Once again you are just trying to pick apart my argument where I used the easiest and quickest, most relative example possible. You tell me in what way I thought the entirety of the EDM music scene was to be judged from EDC and HARD events. I listed Justice's last appearance in southern California that happened to be a HARD event because southern California residents are a major market for Coachella, no? Why would I have listed what they have done in other parts of the world when it could be totally irrelevant?

[guedita]

I disagree that Southern California events are a big reflection of or impact on the EDM scene at large. It maybe influences some of the other festivals throughout the country that then later book whatever flavor of the day shitshow DJ is popular. The rest of the world's EDM scene hardly seems impacted by artists booked at EDC or HARD.

And the other point that seems salient is that Coachella is likely to sell out no matter what this year and they don't necessarily need to book popular EDC/HARD artists to appease the major market of Southern California teenagers. I don't know why people (not you, necessarily, just in general) assume that they will or should book something like Justice or Skrillex on the mainstage.

Because............................it's going to be Daft Punk.

*I realize after posting this that you are focusing on EDM solely in the U.S., which is fair. I wasn't/am not.

[choice cat]

I don't think that ALL southern California events are a big reflection, but I will stand by my statement. EDC grew to three days I think from the success it reached at the Coliseum in LA. Yeah you could say it was a weird success complete with a major shit sandwich of bad press for them, but still a big money maker and without that they wouldn't be having a week late in June declared "EDC week" in Las Vegas and a full fledged 3 day festival trying to compete with Ultra. I think EDC in the past couple years at LA and Las Vegas are pretty meaningful events for EDM.

While I whole heartedly agree with you that Skrillex won't be anywhere near mainstage at Coachella, I think a high caliber edm artist will in fact close one night.

Which is really the point I was trying to make in the first place. If GV wants to go with that formula, which IMHO I think they just might, there is a very small group of EDM acts that could do that. Daft Punk is not at all in my speculation because it is just kind of unreasonable I think.

Skrillex and Deadmau5 still play Global Gathering and Ibiza. A festival like Global Gathering definitely has artists that cater to the taste of a more refined EDM fan like yourself, Unknown, Dj Andrews etc., but that doesn't mean that US festivals are nil from having an impact.

[tmac]

Because............................it's going to be Daft Punk.
ding ding ding

[Mugwog]

I gotta say, So Cal for being one of the bigger trend spots for the rest of the world was SUPER FUCKING LATE on decent EDM as far as mainstream goes.

Insomniac and other promoters have been pushing for years of course, but, and I hate to say it, EDM starting blowing up REALLY hard in LA when Dim Mak and HARD promotions popped up around 2006/2007. Cinespace got decent djs, and created the hipster douche scene. *Read Yelp review of Drais Dim Mak*

Then everyone and their mom started the DP craze which only added to it. As a Californian though, I notice far more electronics acts at events than a decade ago.

Names of DJs you'd wanna see weren't popping up at mainstream events like Ozzfest or Weiner Roast or Warp Tour (not really surprised), they were on crappy rave fliers or basically not playing any where near you.

On a tangent: Why are rave fliers so terrible in design?

[algunz]

On a tangent: Why are rave fliers so terrible in design?

They used to be cool.