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JamesMills
04-18-2011, 12:42 PM
I just got back and wanted to share some observations around the horn. I haven't read a single thread on here since returning so I wouldn't taint my own sentiments right now, but I'd obviously like to hear your thoughts on some of these.

1. There were a BUNCH of hit-song omissions from bands, and I didn't really understand why. The Chem Bros and Block Rockin' Beats, Animal Collective and My Girls, The Drums and Down by the Water, Cold Cave and Life Magazine, Elbow and Switching Off, Tallest Man On Earth and Wild Hunt (and Kids on the Run and Like the Wheel), The National and Runaway... there were many more that I'm not thinking of, but I found it quite odd and upsetting.

2. While Arcade Fire put up the best show I will probably ever see in my life (and perhaps one that will go down in history? I haven't checked the boards or the media on it, but this is how I felt), I was disappointed with a number of the acts that I was most excited for and thus made the experience a lot less memorable than last year's. Some disappointments for me were Animal Collective (I thought it was miserable), Cee Lo (I think everyone would agree that this was a very poor performance), The Strokes, Death From Above 1979 (though my friends loved it and I'm sure some did here), Interpol (though I guess I half expected this)... it's too bad because the bands I don't care for and skipped supposedly rocked, like Black Keys and Kings of Leon. It's weird to think about last year's and have such a hard time making a list for my favorite acts, as there was at least 8 ones that just blew me away. This year there were a only a few of these for me, personally.

3. It was A LOT easier to get to the front for big events this year. Last year I literally skipped Thom Yorke to try to get as good seats for Gorillaz as possible and still was three times as far back as I was for Kanye AND Arcade Fire this year (almost the rail for both, and only started moving forward after the previous sets). It seemed generally more crowded at night however, so I almost want to attribute this to the fans just being a whole lot more stupid (and douchey; almost beat the shit out of a handful of assholes a few different occasions) in not even caring as much about seeing the artists in the first place.

some more arbitrary ones...

3. It seemed a lot darker at night than it did last year, did anyone else notice that? There also seemed to be light and sound issues at nearly every single set, though I heard others saying it was more coordinated this year...? I never really cared about it, save for the new Sahara lights not working on Friday night during Sasha's set (this really pissed me off, as I was excited to see them in effect for Sasha since he was the only EDM act I was going to see in the Sahara all weekend)

4. A lot more late appearances by artists and shortened sets than last year. I wouldn't have minded had the artists minded themselves, but most seemed nonchalant about it.

5. I didn't think I'd write this, but I missed the 15 dollar water bottles and the surplus of water stations from last year. It's shitty to think about how much trash we produced from all of those bottles when we could have just had the same system of last year and saved thousands of tons of plastic.

Here's some personal lists while I'm at it:

Biggest expectation exceeders:
1. Lauryn Hill
2. Delorean
3. Crystal Castles (I don't even like them, but damn...)
4. Nas (whenever DM would not interfere)
5. Robyn

Failed to meet my expectations:
1. Animal Collective
2. Cee Lo
3. The Strokes
4. Death From Above 1979
5. Interpol

Favorite sets:
1. Arcade Fire
2. Elbow
3. Lauryn Hill
4. The National
5. Kanye West (beginning was absolutely flawless but thought he kind of blew his load too early after the first three songs; I'm not familiar with most of the middle setlist too though so perhaps this was just my fault. Ended nicely though, and having Pusha T show up was MONEY)
6. Chemical Brothers
7. Delorean
8. Crystal Castles
9. Robyn
10. Joy Formidable

Thanks for letting me get all of this off my mind, had to document it!

JamesMills
04-18-2011, 01:01 PM
I also should note that Odd Future would be atop my disappointment list but I don't think it's fair to list them since I left after only the second song. I felt a bit underwhelmed with Sandwiches and the second song was just fucking awful so I bounced, though I was in the back and heard that it was a great time in the front.

Does anyone know if the set got any better?

rasooli
04-18-2011, 01:16 PM
- From the webcasts you could tell that Arcade Fire was putting on a legendary show. The power and energy they put into their performance, the ordering of the setlist (never seen them put Rebellion (Lies) so early to spark the plug with a bang), the out-of-nowhere happy birthday singing from the crowd, the incredible light up balls coming from the sky during Wake Up then lighting up during the encore songs, the little tidbits from Win about how important of show this was for them, etc. As I have stated previously, I've seen AF live a handful of times, including once at Coachella in 07, but by their third song I knew this show was going to be different and was going to be one for the history books. Absolutely incredible...VERY ANGRY I missed it live.

-Was Julian Casablancas drunk during the Strokes set??? From the webcasts it seemed like he was slurring his songs and mumbling between songs. They would of been one of my top acts of the weekend to see if I went this year, but from the webcasts it seemed like it was a medicore performance at best. I was surprised to see people put them as one of the top 5 best acts of the weekend in the other threads.

-I too noticed from the webcasts that seemingly 50% of the acts were late or there were some type of technical issues that had to be shored up. This has never been a problem in previous Coachellas.

JamesMills
04-18-2011, 01:27 PM
- From the webcasts you could tell that Arcade Fire was putting on a legendary show. The power and energy they put into their performance, the ordering of the setlist (never seen them put Rebellion (Lies) so early to spark the plug with a bang), the out-of-nowhere happy birthday singing from the crowd, the incredible light up balls coming from the sky during Wake Up then lighting up during the encore songs, the little tidbits from Win about how important of show this was for them, etc. As I have stated previously, I've seen AF live a handful of times, including once at Coachella in 07, but by their third song I knew this show was going to be different and was going to be one for the history books. Absolutely incredible...VERY ANGRY I missed it live.

-Was Julian Casablancas drunk during the Strokes set??? From the webcasts it seemed like he was slurring his songs and mumbling between songs. They would of been one of my top acts of the weekend to see if I went this year, but from the webcasts it seemed like it was a medicore performance at best. I was surprised to see people put them as one of the top 5 best acts of the weekend in the other threads.

-I too noticed from the webcasts that seemingly 50% of the acts were late or there were some type of technical issues that had to be shored up. This has never been a problem in previous Coachellas.

I'm so happy you agree. Honestly, now that I'm reading the rest of these threads, I find it absolutely mind blowing that other people aren't giving that performance more love... I mean, like you said, when Rebellion came on so early I looked at my sister and just said "oh my god, this is going to be fucking insane" and it just kept getting better and better... when the balls slowly descended onto me in the front middle, I remember thinking "This is the happiest moment of my life...". The balls represented the song and the set and the band so perfectly: holding onto the heart and spirit of our youth. And Win's voice sounded AMAZING! I had written on these boards earlier that I wasn't as excited for AF as I should be (even though they're one of my favorite bands) simply because I don't care for his voice live, but it sounded completely clearer and even hit a lot of the higher octaves he usually doesn't try for. I wish you could've been there with me, it was amazing... i'm going to watch them all again right now on youtube (or is there a better place to watch them?)

Casablancas mentioned alcohol a few times in general, but I didn't know if he was just drunk or being as self indulgent as ever in his "i'm so sexy and talented" act. The way he was all apathetic and too cool for school really bugged me, and the "just play the song, whatever" routine got old. I was like "I get it, you don't care, neither do I now". But I'm happy a lot on here enjoyed it.

kushwig
04-18-2011, 01:31 PM
I also should note that Odd Future would be atop my disappointment list but I don't think it's fair to list them since I left after only the second song. I felt a bit underwhelmed with Sandwiches and the second song was just fucking awful so I bounced, though I was in the back and heard that it was a great time in the front.

Does anyone know if the set got any better?

I listened to about 75% of their set before I had to leave. They were everything that's wrong about live Hip Hop.

Also, why so many damn hype-men this year? The guy at Magnetic Man shoulde been yanked off the stage. Then again, so should have Magnetic Man with their terrible performance.

Best Performance Of The Weekend = Chromeo.

BlackSwan
04-18-2011, 01:32 PM
Why was Crystal Castles so good?

JamesMills
04-18-2011, 01:49 PM
They were everything that's wrong about live Hip Hop.


Couldn't agree more. This is the same reason I have not seen Wu Tang live yet, even though they might very well be my favorite musical act of all time; I just don't want to be disappointed when everyone's just running around out of breath and fucking up their own shit.


Why was Crystal Castles so good?

Alice or whatever (don't remember her name) was just out of this world, dude. Ask anyone who caught it... I was just walking by to go to the beergarden in what was my only break between bands for the day, and then they started. The first song was just absorbing with the beautiful red lights and the smoke, and then she comes out of nowhere through the smoke like some sexual demon from hell or something. I can't really explain it, but she was just going crazy and realllllly feeling the moments.

I thought it was absurd to book them at the Outdoor that late when I first saw the setlist, as I think they're pretty mundane and meh in general and don't have toooo big a following. But goddamn was I wrong... apparently she can do some really fantastic shit when she feels up to it.

mikeoley
04-18-2011, 02:02 PM
Completely agree about Crystal Castles. I went and checked them out of a pure recommendation from a friend. Got pretty close and was blown the eff away. Funny thing is...I don't think I understood one lyric the entire show but it was pretty impressive overall.

Arcade Fire made me feel like a kid again. I've never danced so much at a rock show and I can't remember the last time being so happy in general. I thought something special was going on that night. It makes me feel good to see so many people feel the same sentiment. After every song a rush of cool air would sweep by. Dammit the polo fields are such an amazing place at night.

Chromeo was an absolute dance party. Whenever I looked around (which wasn't much...too busy dancing) there wasn't a single person not getting down. Such a pleasant surprise on Sunday night.

JamesMills
04-18-2011, 02:04 PM
Arcade Fire made me feel like a kid again. .

This pretty much sums up my sentiments as well. During Wake Up I actually thought to myself "I absolutely NEED to get a tattoo to remind myself of this moment, something about being a kid forever..."

I'm gonna do it too.

Phantasma Del Mar
04-18-2011, 02:14 PM
Arcade Fire playing Wake Up is going to be one of my favorite memories in life. Absolutely beautiful.

emllik
04-18-2011, 02:16 PM
I don't think I can even read most of what you posted, after you revealed in a paragraph your sentiments on Arcade Fire. I was there. Animal Collective fucking killed it. They should have headlined, being opened by those snot shooting cunts Arcade Fire. That was seriously one of the weakest shows all weekend. I'm glad that you guys had fun there, and I didn't mind catching a few of their songs, before realizing that the night had actually ended upon completion of Animal Collective's set and wandering back to my tent. Just like on Sunday, The Strokes and PJ closing out the night, while Kanye was blowing his top for another hour after everyone (with sense) had already evacuated. Just like Crystal Castles killing it Friday night before Chemical Brothers pulled out an epic forty-minute-late appearance to boldly close out my night while I zipped my tent up, drained the last of the night's beer, and passed out. This, without a doubt in my mind, was the worst year for closing bands. Moving Units at 2:30? That was the most idiotic move I can think of regarding set times. They deserved at least an hour long night time set. Bright Eyes should have been the headlining act on Saturday. I can't stress that enough. Considering they didn't miss a beat, played some old hits, played some new, I'm still stoked to have seen them.... BUT THEY'RE THE ONLY REAL HEADLINING ACT THAT PLAYED ON SATURDAY!!!! Have you ever heard of Arcade Fire being compared to Dylan? Maybe, if you read idiot-drivel. Conor Oberst.... not Bright Eyes, but ONE MEMBER of the band Bright Eyes, has been compared numerous times to Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, and is considered to be one of the greatest living songwriters (by some, tehe). It's pretty insulting that they put Lauryn Hill and Erykah Badu on during the day. Lauryn Hill fucking sucked, so I suppose that didn't matter.... but Badu put her raping shoes on, and walked to Fuckyouinyourear Town, in the heat. I never understood why great acts would be placed in retarded time slots. It'd be like putting Paul McCartney on before Arctic Monkeys. Michael Jackson opening for Justin Timberlake. Seriously, Pail Toilet needs to get on that horn you spoke of. Maybe put his ear to the ground (the story's in the soil), and give the people who pay for these tickets, the people who walk over a mile from tent to venue, the people who're going to eventually stop going to things like this, the chance to voice their opinions. Yeah, I was actually dead tired from walking so fucking much by the time the headliners rolled through, so I wasn't really too disappointed in them sucking and being extremely late like it's the right of the "artist." Yes, it's up to me to fix it. You, and me, and I. If Beardyman wants to allow DJ Whothefuck? to play an extra five to ten minutes into his set, okay. That's Beardyman not being a prick. That's DJ Wheredidthiswiperofasscomefrom? being a prick for thinking that people were digging his set like dirt. Me, personally? I don't care how hard Kanye bounces to the beat. I still enjoy quite a few of his tunes, and was happy to hear Gold Digger, in an odd way, BUT I'M NOT PAYING FOR POMPOUS BULLSHIT. Why would I pay for it when I can write it out, and post it freely on the internet, or read any of you doing the same? There's no fashionably late when people are burnt out and just wanting one good last show. I just heard on the radio that Cee Lo Green was over thirty minutes late to his set, and Coachella told him they didn't need them. Funny.... not how I heard it from the people who were there. "Cee Lo had a super short set. He came out, played a couple songs, then got mad and left." Now Coachella is the man for sticking it to the artist? If they didn't want him to play, no one would have seen him. This is just another instance of how GV is a fucking nazi. How appropriate. I may go next year, after I've had time to cool off, let the blisters heal, and forget the negatives in favor of the great shows I did indeed attend. Slightly ignorant on my behalf for not reading the entirety of your initial post, but I hope this list of man-bitches I'm compiled will help you with your e-bitching compilation.

P.S. Crystal Castles was fucking amazing... and I'm pretty sure it's because they turned Alice's mic down. I saw them in '09, and it was total shit. Her mic was turned way higher than the music (yes, much like Kanye West's unforgettably gay performance last night), and she was doing more unintelligible screaming than anything else. I had heard that they'd gotten better since '09, and decided to believe in the hype (considering my options????? duh) and check their show out. One of the best acts of the weekend.

MissingPerson
04-18-2011, 02:19 PM
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rasooli
04-18-2011, 02:19 PM
I'm so happy you agree. Honestly, now that I'm reading the rest of these threads, I find it absolutely mind blowing that other people aren't giving that performance more love... I mean, like you said, when Rebellion came on so early I looked at my sister and just said "oh my god, this is going to be fucking insane" and it just kept getting better and better... when the balls slowly descended onto me in the front middle, I remember thinking "This is the happiest moment of my life...". The balls represented the song and the set and the band so perfectly: holding onto the heart and spirit of our youth. And Win's voice sounded AMAZING! I had written on these boards earlier that I wasn't as excited for AF as I should be (even though they're one of my favorite bands) simply because I don't care for his voice live, but it sounded completely clearer and even hit a lot of the higher octaves he usually doesn't try for. I wish you could've been there with me, it was amazing... i'm going to watch them all again right now on youtube (or is there a better place to watch them?)

Casablancas mentioned alcohol a few times in general, but I didn't know if he was just drunk or being as self indulgent as ever in his "i'm so sexy and talented" act. The way he was all apathetic and too cool for school really bugged me, and the "just play the song, whatever" routine got old. I was like "I get it, you don't care, neither do I now". But I'm happy a lot on here enjoyed it.

Definitely brotha. When the lineup cameout in mid January I was extremely disappointed with the artists, but then I slowly got into many of the artists I wasnt too familiar with (Strokes, Foster the People, Afrojack, Trentmoller, Nosaj Thing...etc.), and from the webcast it seemed like there were "for the history book" performances with Arcade Fire and Kanye West in particular.

On the webcasts you could tell that the members from AF were extra happy and excited to be performing, which I had never seen the the last couple of times I've seen them. They were definitely giving it their all this time around.

Julian Casablancas was definitely drunk...you could tell from the way he was moving his body and his slurring. At least thats how it seemed on the webcast. One of the other members was drinking beer throughout the performance too (the bassist?).

You should definitely checkout Wu Tang live man? They're incredible in a live setting. I saw them at Rock the Bells and they were REALLY good.

JamesMills
04-18-2011, 02:23 PM
Funny stuff in need of paragraphs

Thanks for your thoughts, some funny stuff. It's crazy how oppositional our opinions are; you liked The Strokes, Animal Collective, Badu and others that I disliked while disliking Lauryn, Arcade Fire, Kanye, and some others that I particularly liked. I also think comparing Oberst to Dylan is a bit absurd, but funny given the context of your acerbic tone.

TomAz
04-18-2011, 02:23 PM
Lauryn Hill fucking sucked

This one sentence invalidates anything else you might have said in that rambling rant. I'm pretty sure Lauryn Hill was my favorite set of the weekend.

Here, this is for you.

tGbfs6HZDNo

JamesMills
04-18-2011, 02:26 PM
You should definitely checkout Wu Tang live man? They're incredible in a live setting. I saw them at Rock the Bells and they were REALLY good.

Yeah, I surely will one of these years. Thing is even when I was in my early teens and OBSESSED with hiphop, I still didn't care for going to live performances (outside of the super smooth mcs ala Mos Def). It's just so hard for a hiphop group to pull off a hyped show without coming off crummy and exhausted. Outkast used to be able to pull it off when I was younger and, to a more reserved extent, Kanye held his own in this regard this year.

GuyInTucson
04-18-2011, 02:26 PM
This one sentence invalidates anything else you might have said in that rambling rant. I'm pretty sure Lauryn Hill was my favorite set of the weekend.

Here, this is for you.

tGbfs6HZDNo

Exactly. Lauryn Hill was one of the better sets of the weekend. I don't get how anyone can say she "sucked".

kushwig
04-18-2011, 02:28 PM
You should definitely checkout Wu Tang live man? They're incredible in a live setting. I saw them at Rock the Bells and they were REALLY good.

I dunno. I think I'm with James on this one.

Plus, with ODB gone you can't truly get a Wu experience. He wasn't one the best rappers in the group, but he was every bit as hyped as any of the Odd Future kids.

I've seen quite a bit of Rap in my day, from Ice-T and Ice Cube at Lollapalooza's (back when they were relevant) and even though I've been a fan since a kid, it's really hard to do a live rap show that's better than a well-produced album played on a good system.

One of the rare recent exceptions-- Snoop Dogg with his Funk Band. He's managed to switch his style up in a way that avoids some of the pitfalls of live Rap concerts.

Phantasma Del Mar
04-18-2011, 02:29 PM
I don't know if Julian Casablanca was drunk, I think he was just trying too hard to play the whole "look at how little I give a shit" card.

TomAz
04-18-2011, 02:32 PM
Some disappointments for me were Animal Collective (I thought it was miserable), Cee Lo (I think everyone would agree that this was a very poor performance), The Strokes, Death From Above 1979 (though my friends loved it and I'm sure some did here), Interpol (though I guess I half expected this)

I pretty much agree with this. I left DFA79 and Interpol because I was bored. I left Cee Lo before he started because who's got time for that shit? AC was ok though I thought the video graphics were really mundane. The Strokes weren't really a disappointment because I didnt' expect much from them, they're kind of a flat live band in my experience. Their set didn't make me leave though, it was pleasant enough.

kushwig
04-18-2011, 02:33 PM
Exactly. Lauryn Hill was one of the better sets of the weekend. I don't get how anyone can say she "sucked".

Sorry I missed that one. Saw her on her Mis-Eduction tour and she was great.

It sounds like the meltdown everyone was expecting her to have, actually happened to Cee-Lo.

obzen
04-18-2011, 02:33 PM
I don't know if Julian Casablanca was drunk, I think he was just trying too hard to play the whole "look at how little I give a shit" card.


He was doing to much, and by that, I mean he came off as a tit.

GuyInTucson
04-18-2011, 02:52 PM
Sorry I missed that one. Saw her on her Mis-Eduction tour and she was great.

It sounds like the meltdown everyone was expecting her to have, actually happened to Cee-Lo.

Lauryn hill killed it on stage. When she broke out old Fugees' tracks that sealed the deal for me. One of my favorite sets of the weekend. The only slight gripe was that she didn't stick around until Sunday to do "If I ruled the world" with Nas, but I am sure she had something else already scheduled and couldn't be there.

rasooli
04-18-2011, 03:05 PM
I don't think I can even read most of what you posted, after you revealed in a paragraph your sentiments on Arcade Fire. I was there. Animal Collective fucking killed it................

Are you fucking kidding me??? I read about two paragraphs (if you had used the motherfucking return key) worth of your nonsense then stopped because of how ridiculous it was.This guy MUST be trolling...Animal Collective and Bright Eyes should of been the headliners....thats laughable. This must be a "joke" post.

JamesMills
04-19-2011, 12:15 AM
Lauryn hill killed it on stage. When she broke out old Fugees' tracks that sealed the deal for me. One of my favorite sets of the weekend. The only slight gripe was that she didn't stick around until Sunday to do "If I ruled the world" with Nas, but I am sure she had something else already scheduled and couldn't be there.

I was super bummed about this as well. I didn't think Nas would even play it unless she was going to come out for it, so I was extra bummed for having my hopes up when it started...

zachyd
04-19-2011, 12:31 AM
Why were so many people disappointed with The Strokes? I don't think Julian was drunk. That's just how his stage presence is. He went through his drunken years already as a young man in his 20's.

I thought they absolutely nailed every song. The only reason it wasn't just as good as the Outside Lands set is due to the crowd. I thought overall people were pretty lame and non-responsive to many of the songs (even the big hits like You Only Live Once and Last Nite). At Outside Lands, I had never seen so many people going so crazy over a band just simply playing their songs with no crazy show or anything.

It was one of my favorite sets of the weekend. Mind you, from around 7 PM till the end of the night for all three nights I was rolling haha. Still, I can distinguish everything pretty well.

thetonio
04-19-2011, 01:38 AM
Animal Collective and My Girls...

And this would be why you didn't enjoy their set.

JamesMills
04-19-2011, 08:48 AM
And this would be why you didn't enjoy their set.

Not even close, I don't really like that song particularly all that much. I was actually just stoked we got Did You See the Words?, that might be my favorite track ever by AC.

I was more upset at the fact that it really seemed like they were trying their best to make the whole experience miserably unlistenable, as if it was some sort of statement. Ugh, I'm getting pissed just thinking about this again...

JamesMills
04-19-2011, 08:55 AM
At Outside Lands, I had never seen so many people going so crazy over a band just simply playing their songs with no crazy show or anything.


For sure, the crowd was definitely into it. Perhaps I'm just not as big a fan of theirs as I thought I was. I mean, I always say that Is This It? is one of my favs of the 00's, but even then it's more of a relaxing relationship that I have with it opposed to one tha gets me excited or anything. And outside of that album, there are only a few songs I even like by them.

And all of this was exacerbated by the fact that they had that whole "i'm so talented and awesome that it's ridiculous, you lucky shitheads" attitude. I actually think the fact that the audience was indulging this routine got me a little ticked too.

venturas90sgirl
04-19-2011, 09:53 AM
I would agree about the Strokes being solid but not overwhelming. Julian amused me just because it was just part of the act. While it wasn't my favorite of the weekend they did play Reptilia and Take it or Leave it so I walked away giving it a thumbs up.

bmack86
04-19-2011, 10:00 AM
I completely don't understand the unlistenable jabs at the Animal Collective stuff. Those songs were solid.

nathanfairchild
04-19-2011, 10:16 AM
I don't think I can even read most of what you posted, after you revealed in a paragraph your sentiments on Arcade Fire. I was there. Animal Collective fucking killed it. They should have headlined, being opened by those snot shooting cunts Arcade Fire. That was seriously one of the weakest shows all weekend. I'm glad that you guys had fun there, and I didn't mind catching a few of their songs, before realizing that the night had actually ended upon completion of Animal Collective's set and wandering back to my tent. Just like on Sunday, The Strokes and PJ closing out the night, while Kanye was blowing his top for another hour after everyone (with sense) had already evacuated. Just like Crystal Castles killing it Friday night before Chemical Brothers pulled out an epic forty-minute-late appearance to boldly close out my night while I zipped my tent up, drained the last of the night's beer, and passed out. This, without a doubt in my mind, was the worst year for closing bands. Moving Units at 2:30? That was the most idiotic move I can think of regarding set times. They deserved at least an hour long night time set. Bright Eyes should have been the headlining act on Saturday. I can't stress that enough. Considering they didn't miss a beat, played some old hits, played some new, I'm still stoked to have seen them.... BUT THEY'RE THE ONLY REAL HEADLINING ACT THAT PLAYED ON SATURDAY!!!! Have you ever heard of Arcade Fire being compared to Dylan? Maybe, if you read idiot-drivel. Conor Oberst.... not Bright Eyes, but ONE MEMBER of the band Bright Eyes, has been compared numerous times to Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, and is considered to be one of the greatest living songwriters (by some, tehe). It's pretty insulting that they put Lauryn Hill and Erykah Badu on during the day. Lauryn Hill fucking sucked, so I suppose that didn't matter.... but Badu put her raping shoes on, and walked to Fuckyouinyourear Town, in the heat. I never understood why great acts would be placed in retarded time slots. It'd be like putting Paul McCartney on before Arctic Monkeys. Michael Jackson opening for Justin Timberlake. Seriously, Pail Toilet needs to get on that horn you spoke of. Maybe put his ear to the ground (the story's in the soil), and give the people who pay for these tickets, the people who walk over a mile from tent to venue, the people who're going to eventually stop going to things like this, the chance to voice their opinions. Yeah, I was actually dead tired from walking so fucking much by the time the headliners rolled through, so I wasn't really too disappointed in them sucking and being extremely late like it's the right of the "artist." Yes, it's up to me to fix it. You, and me, and I. If Beardyman wants to allow DJ Whothefuck? to play an extra five to ten minutes into his set, okay. That's Beardyman not being a prick. That's DJ Wheredidthiswiperofasscomefrom? being a prick for thinking that people were digging his set like dirt. Me, personally? I don't care how hard Kanye bounces to the beat. I still enjoy quite a few of his tunes, and was happy to hear Gold Digger, in an odd way, BUT I'M NOT PAYING FOR POMPOUS BULLSHIT. Why would I pay for it when I can write it out, and post it freely on the internet, or read any of you doing the same? There's no fashionably late when people are burnt out and just wanting one good last show. I just heard on the radio that Cee Lo Green was over thirty minutes late to his set, and Coachella told him they didn't need them. Funny.... not how I heard it from the people who were there. "Cee Lo had a super short set. He came out, played a couple songs, then got mad and left." Now Coachella is the man for sticking it to the artist? If they didn't want him to play, no one would have seen him. This is just another instance of how GV is a fucking nazi. How appropriate. I may go next year, after I've had time to cool off, let the blisters heal, and forget the negatives in favor of the great shows I did indeed attend. Slightly ignorant on my behalf for not reading the entirety of your initial post, but I hope this list of man-bitches I'm compiled will help you with your e-bitching compilation.

P.S. Crystal Castles was fucking amazing... and I'm pretty sure it's because they turned Alice's mic down. I saw them in '09, and it was total shit. Her mic was turned way higher than the music (yes, much like Kanye West's unforgettably gay performance last night), and she was doing more unintelligible screaming than anything else. I had heard that they'd gotten better since '09, and decided to believe in the hype (considering my options????? duh) and check their show out. One of the best acts of the weekend.

you should seriously consider giving up Coachella. post-festival i think you might be the most negative person on here. you seemed to enjoy 5 acts in total and keep going into threads to shit on anything that people liked. believe it or not, it is possible to voice your opinion without coming off as a raving cunt. maybe you should start looking for another festival to attend, and leave Coachella to the people that appreciate everything this festival offers.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
04-19-2011, 10:18 AM
Why was Crystal Castles so good?

Alice Glass + better sound at Outdoor Theater = Epic Set

fatuppoopdown
04-19-2011, 10:19 AM
In my opinion the biggest difference between the two years was how sociable everybody was. In 2010 everybody was talking. If I sat down to smoke a cigarette by myself someone would come up and start a conversation. This year I felt like everybody was way more into just staying with their groups or were too self conscious to talk to random people.

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TeamCoachellaHellYeah
04-19-2011, 10:19 AM
I completely don't understand the unlistenable jabs at the Animal Collective stuff. Those songs were solid.

Completely agree, it was a solid listening experience especially given the sound system from the main. Probably the best sounding set I've ever heard on the main. Ever.

fatuppoopdown
04-19-2011, 10:20 AM
Completely agree, it was a solid listening experience especially given the sound system from the main. Probably the best soundest set I've ever heard on the main. Ever.

I didn't think it was impossible to listen to ... I just felt like they didn't give a fuck while they were up there and were sloppy.

The intro was godly though.

nathanfairchild
04-19-2011, 10:22 AM
In my opinion the biggest difference between the two years was how sociable everybody was. In 2010 everybody was talking. If I sat down to smoke a cigarette by myself someone would come up and start a conversation. This year I felt like everybody was way more into just staying with their groups or were too self conscious to talk to random people.

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hmm, i had quite the opposite this year. i was alone this year and i had people coming up to me all weekend to talk and hang out in-between sets. and my neighbors were really cool this year too. helped me set up my tent and we shared some beers.

fatuppoopdown
04-19-2011, 10:28 AM
hmm, i had quite the opposite this year. i was alone this year and i had people coming up to me all weekend to talk and hang out in-between sets. and my neighbors were really cool this year too. helped me set up my tent and we shared some beers.

You are the first person I have heard say that. Everybody I talked to that went this year felt the same way I did. But glad you had a social time.

JamesMills
04-19-2011, 05:16 PM
You are the first person I have heard say that. Everybody I talked to that went this year felt the same way I did. But glad you had a social time.

I didn't think people were less social, but they did seem less intelligent and friendly.

motionnn77
04-19-2011, 05:53 PM
You are the first person I have heard say that. Everybody I talked to that went this year felt the same way I did. But glad you had a social time.

I had the most sociable Coahcella this year. I had a few people request photos with me and one girl wanted to adopt me because she thought I was all alone. I had a lot of fun when I was by myself. I did with my friends too, the energy is just different.

Gribbz
04-19-2011, 05:58 PM
The mass exodus from Animal Collective to Empire of the Sun was quite the sight.

JamesMills
04-20-2011, 06:05 AM
1. There were a BUNCH of hit-song omissions from bands, and I didn't really understand why. The Chem Bros and Block Rockin' Beats, Animal Collective and My Girls, The Drums and Down by the Water, Cold Cave and Life Magazine, Elbow and Switching Off, Tallest Man On Earth and Wild Hunt (and Kids on the Run and Like the Wheel), The National and Runaway... there were many more that I'm not thinking of, but I found it quite odd and upsetting.


Just remembered another perplexing omission: Robyn's "Show Me Love"!

WhyTheLongFace
04-20-2011, 08:00 AM
To those who said crystal castles had great sound was this after the first two songs? Cause I barely heard Alice and walked away. I hope I didn't make a mistake

frizzlefry
04-20-2011, 09:06 AM
I think we all have to admit that Animal Collective's set will be talked about and has been talked about now just as much as the two actual headliners of the festival, they were going for some sort of big response, they definitely got it.

mrpeepers06145
04-20-2011, 12:07 PM
I saw some of the webcasts and thought most of them didn't give the performances justice (ala Strokes)

I was about 15 yards back from that and it was a good show. Everyone around me was going batshit and singing all the lyrics, it was a good show.

shermanoaksyo
04-20-2011, 12:11 PM
I preferred 2010 despite the clusterfuck. Better lineup and better temperatures.

PDXdev
04-20-2011, 12:15 PM
I never really cared about it, save for the new Sahara lights not working on Friday night during Sasha's set (this really pissed me off, as I was excited to see them in effect for Sasha since he was the only EDM act I was going to see in the Sahara all weekend)


I assumed the new lights were off during Sasha's set per his request because he brings his own setup and all. I could be totally wrong but that's what I came up with. Same for Boys Noize.

lawbstar
04-20-2011, 12:38 PM
sad I missed Nosaj Thing and Crystal Castles :(

I snuck into the vip section for Animal Collective and sat on the fence and waited through the underwhelming my girl-less fireworks-less set. Then Arcade Fire came on and people started giving me shit for sitting on the fence all of a sudden. So I know how the crowd was feeling.

lawbstar
04-20-2011, 12:41 PM
Also I didn't go to 2010 but in 2011 it seemed like there were consistent issues with mic volume across the board. I witnessed several artists get pissy about it, including ariel pinks now infamous meltdown.

Sublime
04-20-2011, 12:58 PM
you said taint

nahuatldream
04-20-2011, 12:58 PM
The biggest difference for me (and the rest in my group) was the lack of crowd etiquette. It just seemed like there were more people this year who don't really know how to act, in a crowd. These people have always been there, but it seemed more evident this year, probably due to Coachella's popularity with younger and younger crowds. This is the first year I found myself in a few verbal confrontation with people who seemed oblivious to the fact that there were people around them actually trying to enjoy a set. Maybe I'm just getting old.

On the positive side, I was really impressed with all the changes Coachella made, logistically, and felt this was probably the best run edition of this festival. I loved the screens in the Gobi and Mojave, and the additional speakers at all the stages. Setting up a food court type area was also welcomed. It freed up so much space and the festival felt roomier, despite the increased attendance from previous years. Now if only the weather would cooperate...

kid_a
04-20-2011, 01:15 PM
1. There were a BUNCH of hit-song omissions from bands, and I didn't really understand why. The Chem Bros and Block Rockin' Beats...

Actually really happy Chem Bros didn't play Block Rockin Beats. Such a stupid song. Not playing it really made their set THAT MUCH BETTER.

JamesMills
04-20-2011, 04:08 PM
The biggest difference for me (and the rest in my group) was the lack of crowd etiquette. It just seemed like there were more people this year who don't really know how to act, in a crowd. These people have always been there, but it seemed more evident this year, probably due to Coachella's popularity with younger and younger crowds. This is the first year I found myself in a few verbal confrontation with people who seemed oblivious to the fact that there were people around them actually trying to enjoy a set. Maybe I'm just getting old..

You're not just getting old, I noticed the same thing and mentioned it in the OP. There were so many douchebags that would just talk shit to me for the stupidest shit (not giving them my alcohol or weed, or sitting down while waiting in between shows). At one point it got so bad that I literally told the dude I didn't care if I was going to miss Kanye, I was gonna beat the shit out of him if he didn't shut the fuck up; this coming after he stood there and berated me in front of my little sister and her friend for ten minutes. THe big bitch just sat there with a scared look on his face while the girls around me that he was also berating started clapping and laughing at him.

Another time some idiot just came up to my friend and started yelling in his face because he thought it was funny for some retarded reason. My friend was wise enough to just turn around and be cool about it, but we both remarked at how fucking stupid it was; if you wouldn't do it in the streets, why would you do it there?

Oh yeah, and there was a few other confrontations we got in when we wouldn't let obnoxious girls or wannabe gangster punks push their way through the crowd. I would hold a firm base and not let them push through me no matter what, and I'll continue to do this at every Coachella I go to until the day I fucking die to prove a point. It's the people that let these douches push through that are partly responsible for the clusterfucks at the front of the stage, completely unfair to those of us who waited patiently and politely to earn our spots.

citizenerased
04-20-2011, 04:11 PM
To those who said crystal castles had great sound was this after the first two songs? Cause I barely heard Alice and walked away. I hope I didn't make a mistake
The sound was perfect where I was. I've seen one of their good shows before, and this topped it.

suprefan
04-20-2011, 04:19 PM
I don't know if Julian Casablanca was drunk, I think he was just trying too hard to play the whole "look at how little I give a shit" card.

Julian is sober now. So yeah, he was playing that card.

AgainstFeist
04-20-2011, 04:33 PM
Completely agree about Crystal Castles. I went and checked them out of a pure recommendation from a friend. Got pretty close and was blown the eff away. Funny thing is...I don't think I understood one lyric the entire show but it was pretty impressive overall.

Arcade Fire made me feel like a kid again. I've never danced so much at a rock show and I can't remember the last time being so happy in general. I thought something special was going on that night. It makes me feel good to see so many people feel the same sentiment. After every song a rush of cool air would sweep by. Dammit the polo fields are such an amazing place at night.

Chromeo was an absolute dance party. Whenever I looked around (which wasn't much...too busy dancing) there wasn't a single person not getting down. Such a pleasant surprise on Sunday night.

Totally agree with all of the above!

I was really tired waiting for Chromeo to come on. Next thing I know a dance party broke out! I take a look around and EVERYONE was dancing. Completely re-energized me and I danced so much I had to go lay down for a 10 minutes after the set lol.

brycerosen
04-20-2011, 04:39 PM
i cant believe this thread has become 10 was better than 11

jamesc2929
04-20-2011, 05:15 PM
I would think the main difference between 10 and 11 was that when I left I didin't feel like it was the last time. The addition of the extra room, the repositioning of things, and the seemingly shortage of all around assholes worked, and made it feel more like Coachella. Depending on the show, the crowds at the front were kind and agreeable, the B.A.D. crowd was the best of the weekend, but the Suede crowd was close behind. We even had one guy, (you in the white sailor hat) turn around and tell us that if he were acting too crazy or in the way to just let him know-this would not have happened last year.

The vibe all weekend seemed much less stressful and mellow compared to '10, and the "look at me I'm on my first beer" frat crowd seemed under control even at the patron saints of frat rock-Kings of Leon.

There was mch more room in the midle of the field, and you could easily find people when you told them to meet you at a certain place, and the the larger tents made it easier to see and hear inside instead of standing outside or pushed up against someone.

There were more "event" shows: B.A.D., Suede, Radio Dept. and the Creative Project was a major improvement.

However, Parking was the same cluster fuck after the show, and while they pushed back the street parking a few blocks, it didn't stop me from still parking on the road and taking a walk. The after show parking lot shit is the one time when Goldenvoice says fuck you, you are on your own.

The security and staff workers were nicer this year, and treated us as if we were visitors and not the enemy.

Im glad they fixed the problems, and now I'll be back. I only wish they would stop with the push toward more mainstream headliners, but I know this is a lost cause..we can always hope!

JamesMills
04-20-2011, 06:41 PM
There was mch more room in the midle of the field, and you could easily find people when you told them to meet you at a certain place


I noticed this too.

PlayaDelWes
04-22-2011, 10:36 AM
Pocket schedules were larger

kittykat416
04-23-2011, 01:11 AM
Oh yeah, and there was a few other confrontations we got in when we wouldn't let obnoxious girls or wannabe gangster punks push their way through the crowd. I would hold a firm base and not let them push through me no matter what, and I'll continue to do this at every Coachella I go to until the day I fucking die to prove a point. It's the people that let these douches push through that are partly responsible for the clusterfucks at the front of the stage, completely unfair to those of us who waited patiently and politely to earn our spots.


Hear, hear.

I got so annoyed with people (especially young girls), who pushed their way to the front of the stage, only to spend the entire set texting, having "where are you ?" conversations on their phone, or otherwise talking loudly to their friends, and not even paying attention to the show! If you're not even going to listen/watch, why did you need to be at the front?? (I know, I know: so they could tell everyone afterwards that [I]they were up front at Coachella for so-and-so band.... Why don't you save us both the trouble next time and just lie to your friends that you were up front, but stay in the back, 'kay?)

jpaw24
04-23-2011, 06:39 AM
You're not just getting old, I noticed the same thing and mentioned it in the OP. There were so many douchebags that would just talk shit to me for the stupidest shit (not giving them my alcohol or weed, or sitting down while waiting in between shows). At one point it got so bad that I literally told the dude I didn't care if I was going to miss Kanye, I was gonna beat the shit out of him if he didn't shut the fuck up; this coming after he stood there and berated me in front of my little sister and her friend for ten minutes. THe big bitch just sat there with a scared look on his face while the girls around me that he was also berating started clapping and laughing at him.


I was sitting toward the back of the main stage before moving up for Arcade Fire. There was this guy with his girl, sitting on the grass, trying to relax and have a good time. These two tools obviously messed up on something, decided to dance circles around them, bothering them. I admire that guys restraint, because if they were doing that to me and my gf, sitting not to far away, it would have ended differently. I have nothing against people having a good time, however they want to, but don't bother other people.

flowbee
04-25-2011, 01:05 PM
These posters I've gotten accustomed to seeing by the entrance were gone. They were my go to meeting spot for years.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/imnsvale/3712938317/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2438/3712938317_a5af3c6a41_b.jpg

mmsk123
04-25-2011, 01:07 PM
The posters were there, but not all in the spot. They were lined up in the main street in the car camping near the entrance.

Donaldj
04-25-2011, 02:38 PM
2011 had High Contrast, 2010 did not

unknown
04-25-2011, 02:56 PM
hahaha

higgybaby23
04-25-2011, 03:08 PM
I didn't change my mode of operations from 2010 to 2011. Same group of friends, same styles of sets, same same same.

The biggest change from last year to this was the crowd. In 2010 a small handful of people asked me for drugs, mainly in the campgrounds. This year no one asked me for drugs in the campground, but 25-30 people asked me for drugs inside the fest. Most of my friends were harassed too.

And they weren't just asking, they were demanding. They wouldn't take no for an answer. A few people told me I was a liar. One guy called me a "punk". All because I wouldn't sell them drugs.

I weep for the future.

tyler0js
04-25-2011, 04:04 PM
I enjoyed the camp ground as a whole better this year, but I felt like they packed us in a little more heavily ... (car camping)

Grant
04-25-2011, 04:07 PM
I miss general camping