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dorkfish
03-10-2007, 01:41 PM
Not really, but this was pretty interesting to hear that their music is almost entirely sample based. So much for the grandeur of French robots knowing how to record all of their own funky loops. They're still good, though.

http://palmsout.blogspot.com/2007/02/sample-wednesday-27-daft-punk.html

matsuolost
03-10-2007, 01:47 PM
theyre gods theyre gods ok

dorkfish
03-10-2007, 01:47 PM
None of that, now.

fortydollarsworthofmeat
03-10-2007, 01:49 PM
wow. this is interesting.

Hannahrain
03-10-2007, 01:52 PM
Boys, boys, boys. It's not about where they got it from. It's about what they did with it to make it so good. Is someone less of an artist because they don't make their own paint? Stretch their own canvas?

It's not about the bricks, it's about the wall.


ok, end of fortune-cookie grade philosophy.

AEversW
03-10-2007, 01:53 PM
wow who knew DJ's stole music. such a shock

fortydollarsworthofmeat
03-10-2007, 01:56 PM
you dolt.

it's just interesting to see where the samples came from, and how MUCH of their songs are samples.

robot rock is way more sample than i would have thought, for instance.

dorkfish
03-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Boys, boys, boys. It's not about where they got it from. It's about what they did with it.
that that's the underlying message that everyone is assuming that everyone else is missing.

daft punk sucks as bad as the avalanches and dj shadow, now, along with every hip-hop producer ever.

mountmccabe
03-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Boys, boys, boys. It's not about where they got it from. It's about what they did with it to make it so good. Is someone less of an artist because they don't make their own paint? Stretch their own canvas?

It's not about the bricks, it's about the wall.

I have some ground copper compounds that's leftover from my dad's rock tumbling and they are a nice light blueish green and I bought some light oil to make paint but I have not yet done it.

I have no real interest in stretching my own canvases, tho.

dorkfish
03-10-2007, 01:58 PM
and how MUCH of their songs are samples.
that's the part that surprised me. "harder faster..." is entirely a sample, for instance.

fortydollarsworthofmeat
03-10-2007, 02:09 PM
...and robot rock.

Tylerdurden31
03-10-2007, 02:27 PM
It's not about the bricks, it's about the wall.

i'm a fan of this saying

Hannahrain
03-10-2007, 02:28 PM
we can share it.

woogie846
03-10-2007, 02:35 PM
Wow they completely ripped Robot Rock.

menikmati
03-10-2007, 02:36 PM
please, anyone, take these samples and making something half as good as DP can, and I will call you a god

wmgaretjax
03-10-2007, 02:43 PM
ok, end of fortune-cookie grade philosophy.

thank you.

Daft Punk put on a fun show. It's well produced. But in the end, it's all re-hash... This just proves it.

menikmati
03-10-2007, 02:50 PM
oh please

bmack86
03-10-2007, 03:24 PM
That's crazy. But, it doesn't matter. What they did with the samples is genius.

xbnmx
03-10-2007, 03:24 PM
It has never been a secret that they used samples, this changes nothing.

Hannahrain
03-10-2007, 03:26 PM
thank you.

Daft Punk put on a fun show. It's well produced. But in the end, it's all re-hash... This just proves it.

All those words have been said before. That is just re-hash.


And so is this.

bmack86
03-10-2007, 03:26 PM
Actually, it's pretty cool. This is gonna be fun to listen to, so as to hear where they were coming from. I'm downloading the tracks right now. They're damn funky

vinylmartyr
03-10-2007, 03:30 PM
I have a lot of those records for purchase.

vinylmartyr
03-10-2007, 03:32 PM
I don't know why electronic artist using samples surprises anyone. Radiohead uses samples.

PotVsKtl
03-10-2007, 03:35 PM
There's a big difference between using samples and just looping a bar of someone else's song as the entire basis for your track.

Bosco
03-10-2007, 03:38 PM
thats it! im never listening to their music again!!!

dontfeedthebird
03-10-2007, 03:42 PM
They're human after all.

menikmati
03-10-2007, 03:44 PM
http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/885/daft7ps.jpg

keriann
03-10-2007, 03:44 PM
I have always felt like there was something familiar about some of the songs the samples listed are used on. I don't know where I would have heard the original songs but I feel a little bit less crazy now.

fortydollarsworthofmeat
03-10-2007, 03:46 PM
It has never been a secret that they used samples, this changes nothing.


I don't know why electronic artist using samples surprises anyone. Radiohead uses samples.

do you guys even read the entire thread before posting? helloooooo:


it's just interesting to see where the samples came from, and how MUCH of their songs are samples.


that's the part that surprised me. "harder faster..." is entirely a sample, for instance.

RickeyinLA
03-10-2007, 04:03 PM
I don't even think they're REAL robots. Nobody ever mentions that. Weird.

fortydollarsworthofmeat
03-10-2007, 04:06 PM
:lool

HorrorLibraryNet
03-10-2007, 04:25 PM
I think what they do is pretty amazing. I mean, face it...a lot of the tracks they sampled off of are pretty awful. Just a notch above porn soundtrack music, really. So, to be able to loop something like that and make it awesome...that's quite an accomplishment.

summerkid
03-10-2007, 05:09 PM
I don't even think they're REAL robots. Nobody ever mentions that. Weird.

BLASPHEME!!! of course they are real robots how dare you question the Gods.

Boourns
03-10-2007, 05:12 PM
Ahahaha, Barry Manilow

hangthedj112
03-10-2007, 05:19 PM
Dont' care, their music make me happy and want to dance, good enough for me.

crazzz2007
03-10-2007, 05:55 PM
daft punk sucks as bad as the avalanches and dj shadow, now, along with every hip-hop producer ever.

what the hell are you talking about? that's one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard

vinylmartyr
03-10-2007, 05:58 PM
I think he was being sarcastic.

crazzz2007
03-10-2007, 06:00 PM
i hope so

bmack86
03-10-2007, 06:04 PM
Seems like he was.

dorkfish
03-10-2007, 06:20 PM
wow...

jackstraw94086
03-10-2007, 08:11 PM
The "everybody samples so it's OK" argument is a tad weak in the case of DP. I agree that it's more about what you do with the samples, but DP is infamous for leaning virtually an entire track on someone else's sample (like Pot already said). Harder, Faster is probably the most blatant example.

That said, I don't find anything wrong with DP's music on the basis of heavy sampling because it never claimed to be anything more than that. They didn't create a devious plan to steal music and be worshiped by the ignorant. If they wanted to they could have tried to be more subtle about it and try produce their own slightly altered versions of the melodies and basslines just like almost every other producer does. They chose to keep the integrity of the sample. The author of the article didn't "expose" shit. Anyone who listens to DP and can't hear the old samples in them is just not listening hard enough.

Mr.Nipples
03-10-2007, 08:15 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c190/heather_leighxo/puff_daddy3.jpg

Bosco
03-10-2007, 10:30 PM
this is why Daft Punk is great (or check out the live album "Alive 1997"):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4275660658800832791&q

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this is how Daft Punk got famous (aka Discovery):
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/bosco40986/1823939070.jpg
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this is a shitty Daft Punk album (human after balls):
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007DAZW8.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
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this is why everyone likes Daft Punk:
http://sineadgleeson.com/blog/wp-images/daftpunk1.jpg
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the fact is, Daft Punk really hasnt put out a good "home made" tune since the album Homework....However, their ability to dig into the past and rejuvenate samples from songs that are way past their prime, and their ability of mixing, blending, and overlapping their own music to create a euphoric feeling that cant be reached by many live acts of any genre, is something of brilliance.

Ok maybe im blowing some smoke up your ass, but these robots are just here to have fun. So lets party!

http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/party/party0009.gifhttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/party/party0001.gifhttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/party/party0003.gifhttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/party/party0010.gifhttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/party/party0023.gifhttp://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/party/party0010.gif

menikmati
03-10-2007, 10:55 PM
this is a shitty Daft Punk album (human after balls):
I disagree.

disgustipated
03-10-2007, 11:47 PM
And this is a surprise?





I dont get it.

Boourns
03-11-2007, 12:34 AM
Yeah. Everything off Human After All >>>>>>>>> that annoying piece of shit "One More Time", the song that guaranteed I would never get into Daft Punk until Coachella

bmack86
03-11-2007, 01:19 AM
While they are heavily sample based, Daft Punk are able to create something unique. Even though their backing tracks are, by and large, based completely off of previously existing riffs, their vocal lines are what keep me coming back, and they are geniuses with the vocoder, which earns them points in my book.

amyzzz
03-11-2007, 04:43 AM
I mentioned this a while ago. I just didn't post the link. Nothing can really taint Daft Punk in my eyes.








Unless they were like murderers or rapists or something.

PotVsKtl
03-11-2007, 05:01 AM
How about the fact that they're tedious and boring?

amyzzz
03-11-2007, 05:05 AM
I don't listen to their albums. I only listen to the Coachella boot which always ALWAYS cheers me up if I'm feeling down.

betao
03-11-2007, 07:59 AM
Human After All is too repetitive; It'd be a great album if every song on that album was only half as long as normal. (example: Robot Rock should be like 3 mins, not nearly 5)

And One More Time is destroyed when the song goes quiet and the lyrics are just like "we dont stop, ah". Talk about ruining a classic tune. I listen to the first 3 minutes, love it, then go on to Aerodynamic.

and yes, Daft Punk live is amazing.

codytwo
03-15-2007, 02:07 AM
I don't know why electronic artist using samples surprises anyone. Radiohead uses samples.

Radiohead doesn't use samples. Their music is straight from the mind of God to the mouth-hole of Thom Yorke. And because of this statement, when Thom Yorke is king, YOU, vinylmartyr, will be first against the wall. And Depeche Mode is still small-time.

caco0283
03-15-2007, 05:24 AM
There's a big difference between using samples and just looping a bar of someone else's song as the entire basis for your track.

i have to agree with Pot....i love Daft Punk but come on some of the songs are just ripped off....look at the big picture and don't just defend them cause you're a fan...yes what they did with some of the songs you can consider genius but what would of been even more genius was if they created it

menikmati
03-15-2007, 07:10 AM
all ratm's music is created strictly using guitar, bass, drums, and vocals

fac429
03-15-2007, 08:28 AM
"I Love You More", "Cola Bottle Baby", "Can You Imagine" and "Who's Been Sleeping In My Bed" are mentioned as samples in the Discovery liner notes. Not exactly subtle.

codytwo
03-15-2007, 11:35 AM
I think that the heavy sampling is very intentional and deliberate aspect of Daft Punk's aesthetic. The idea of rehashing old music, even exploiting it, fits perfectly into the context of them being the futuristic robot-saviors of the musical world. They are melding the organic with the synthetic, injecting old soul and pop samples into a completely different context. Since Discovery, this has been the theme that appears over and over again in everything Daft Punk does. And the fact that no-one recognizes the original songs despite how incredibly intact they remain in their songs only serves to reinforce the past/present, artificial/genuine, innovative/derivative theme that rusn through their work. If Thomas and Guy Manuel wanted to just be DJs, they would stay in France and spin records for ridiculous amounts of money. Clearly, they want to be theater. A Daft Punk show is essentially a dramatic production with the audience unwittingly participating in a huge lasergasmic artistic statement directed at an audience that watches from the future.

codytwo
03-15-2007, 11:36 AM
CONTEXT!!! THEME!!! ANACHRONISMS!!! THEEEEEEEEMES!!!!!

TomAz
03-15-2007, 11:36 AM
heh heheh heh heh. he said lasergasmic. heh heh.

jackstraw94086
03-15-2007, 11:47 AM
I think that the heavy sampling is very intentional and deliberate aspect of Daft Punk's aesthetic. The idea of rehashing old music, even exploiting it, fits perfectly into the context of them being the futuristic robot-saviors of the musical world. They are melding the organic with the synthetic, injecting old soul and pop samples into a completely different context. Since Discovery, this has been the theme that appears over and over again in everything Daft Punk does. And the fact that no-one recognizes the original songs despite how incredibly intact they remain in their songs only serves to reinforce the past/present, artificial/genuine, innovative/derivative theme that rusn through their work. If Thomas and Guy Manuel wanted to just be DJs, they would stay in France and spin records for ridiculous amounts of money. Clearly, they want to be theater. A Daft Punk show is essentially a dramatic production with the audience unwittingly participating in a huge lasergasmic artistic statement directed at an audience that watches from the future.

few people recognize the samples due to ignorance (in the technical , non-offensive sense), not artfulness. Once one does hear them it changes the DP song completely.

codytwo
03-15-2007, 11:48 AM
few people recognize the samples due to ignorance (in the technical , non-offensive sense), not artfulness. Once one does hear them it changes the DP song completely.

You missed my point, or maybe I failed to articulate it.

jackstraw94086
03-15-2007, 11:54 AM
I guess I did miss it. you referenced the fact taht no-one recognizes the original songs despite how incredibly intact they remain.

i submit that if they had heard the original song prior to DP's version it would be all too obvious. Some of their tracks seem mere mashups with a vocoded sample

codytwo
03-15-2007, 11:58 AM
I'm saying that the fact that Daft Punk samples so prominently and gets away with it fits perfectly into their aesthetic. They probably do it on purpose with the realization that no one will notice.

TomAz
03-15-2007, 12:03 PM
http://imkatr.ytmnd.com/

xbnmx
03-15-2007, 12:05 PM
Most of the songs sampled are god aweful and I wouldnt be found boogying down to them due to some highly lame elements. All the Daft Punk songs are rocking and will keep me moving all night long. Hay into gold, they're like the most efficient alchamists EDM has ever seen.

Suffacated
12-25-2008, 09:34 AM
The real Daft Punk finally exposed.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/dasha_pinky/daft_punk.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/adanish/MiliVanili.jpg
http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq170/Randall_098/Daft-Punk.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f359/Fearsquanto/MILLI_VANILLI_2X2.jpghttp://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn186/upset_Clown/Daft%20Punk/daft.jpg

Ardentbiscuit
12-25-2008, 11:02 AM
Remember this you tube post from a long while back...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4

There were many people who did similar posts but this was my favorite...

Suffacated
12-25-2008, 11:16 AM
Nice...

Suffacated
12-25-2008, 02:47 PM
There is a striking resemblance.

BROKENDOLL
12-25-2008, 03:18 PM
The real Daft Punk finally exposed.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/dasha_pinky/daft_punk.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/adanish/MiliVanili.jpg
http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq170/Randall_098/Daft-Punk.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f359/Fearsquanto/MILLI_VANILLI_2X2.jpghttp://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn186/upset_Clown/Daft%20Punk/daft.jpg That's it! Go ahead, I'll just wait here by my damn self for that ship to return! I believe in those Robots! No Xmas goodies for you, honey!:winkiss <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NrYail4yHXY&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NrYail4yHXY&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

BROKENDOLL
12-25-2008, 03:19 PM
And to this very Christmas Day, even Santa Claus can't excite me like seeing that video again does!

CalmerThanYou
12-26-2008, 10:08 AM
The real Daft Punk finally exposed.
http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/dasha_pinky/daft_punk.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/adanish/MiliVanili.jpg
http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq170/Randall_098/Daft-Punk.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f359/Fearsquanto/MILLI_VANILLI_2X2.jpghttp://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn186/upset_Clown/Daft%20Punk/daft.jpg

jesus. what the fuck?

hawkingvsreeve
12-26-2008, 11:10 AM
Too bad one of Milli Vanilli killed themselves.

chairmenmeow47
12-26-2008, 11:12 AM
i thought only one of them killed himself.

coldstart
12-26-2008, 11:16 AM
Wow, Milli Vanilli put out a Greatest Hits album last year. I wonder how many that sold?

hawkingvsreeve
12-26-2008, 11:19 AM
i thought only one of them killed himself.

Should I have said themself? Didn't sound right. Also my spell check is telling me it's not a word.

chairmenmeow47
12-26-2008, 11:28 AM
Should I have said themself? Didn't sound right. Also my spell check is telling me it's not a word.

lol, nevermind, i'm a tard. i missed the "one of" in that sentence :p

Sonicifyouwantit
12-26-2008, 02:04 PM
oh happy days when this thread dies once again.

Trick Loves The Kids
12-26-2008, 03:30 PM
It's tight because Daft Punk is one of the electronic bands that everyone loves, so you get someone who only listens to rock music and they freak out when they realize that they're not actually playing all of this shit on a guitar.