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BeeII
03-17-2011, 11:37 AM
not amused.

I can't fight your lawyers AEG, so you don't win on principle, you win by might.

http://coachelladaily.com/C&D%20-%20CoachellaDaily-1.jpg
http://coachelladaily.com/C&D%20-%20CoachellaDaily-2.jpg

For what's worth, the site was costing me money and I was wasn't getting very many visitors anyways.

Aurgasm
03-17-2011, 11:40 AM
what a fucking joke..

Tell them that you're all about culture in the coachella valley and this just happens to be the current focus...

Dustin da DnB Soulja
03-17-2011, 11:41 AM
I heard PF was also sent to go kick your ass too.

Dustin da DnB Soulja
03-17-2011, 11:50 AM
Now if you're interested, instead of just targeting Coachella, you could target all music festivals, drop any news articles, we could create festival guides, etc. etc.

If you're interested let me know, I may have some media outlets to get some exposure to it too.

nosurprises12
03-17-2011, 11:50 AM
Lame

exemef
03-17-2011, 11:50 AM
Well this kinda just puts a bad taste in my mouth.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 11:56 AM
Now if you're interested, instead of just targeting Coachella, you could target all music festivals, drop any news articles, we could create festival guides, etc. etc.

If you're interested let me know, I may have some media outlets to get some exposure to it too.

I'm well within fair use to discuss the acts happening at the festival. In fact, if anything I was giving it more exposure. All it was were brief descriptions of the bands and embedded youtube videos.

I don't have the money to fight them on this. I know it's fair use, I know I'm within my rights to discuss the festival, I was even careful to not use any artwork (like the poster for example) on the site.

None of it matters in this country though. Whoever has more lawyers win.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 11:57 AM
I heard PF was also sent to go kick your ass too.

i can take her, unless she fights dirty.

Dustin da DnB Soulja
03-17-2011, 11:59 AM
I'm well within fair use to discuss the acts happening at the festival. In fact, if anything I was giving it more exposure. All it was were brief descriptions of the bands and embedded youtube videos.

I don't have the money to fight them on this. I know it's fair use, I know I'm within my rights to discuss the festival, I was even careful to not use any artwork (like the poster for example) on the site.

None of it matters in this country though. Whoever has more lawyers win.

Im saying just start new. New idea, new plan and you can't be slammed from any individual music festival if you did a broad scope I believe. It would just be like Rolling Stones or Urb doing an article on a festival.

Dustin da DnB Soulja
03-17-2011, 11:59 AM
i can take her, unless she fights dirty.

When the AEG lawyers send her, it's a real, more intense ver. of a pro wrestling cage match.

Sublime
03-17-2011, 12:02 PM
fuck these people. You are well within your rights to keep your site and twitter account (in fact I just followed you). Coachella is the name of a town in California, they have no ownership over the name. Over eager jerks.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 12:02 PM
Im saying just start new. New idea, new plan and you can't be slammed from any individual music festival if you did a broad scope I believe. It would just be like Rolling Stones or Urb doing an article on a festival.

I was planning on doing that, eventually. But I don't need 11ty lawyers from each music festival hounding me.


what i really need is someone like the EFF (http://www.eff.org/) to back me up. But even then I feel bad asking them to help me when there's bigger fights to be fought in DC and elsewhere.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 12:04 PM
fuck these people. You are well within your rights to keep your site and twitter account (in fact I just followed you). Coachella is the name of a town in California, they have no ownership over the name. Over eager jerks.

our system is not about who's right, it's about who has more lawyers, this is just one more example of that.

and i tried disabling the coachelladaily twitter acct. but twitter kept giving me errors, it's the only reason that's still active.

Dustin da DnB Soulja
03-17-2011, 12:12 PM
I was planning on doing that, eventually. But I don't need 11ty lawyers from each music festival hounding me.


what i really need is someone like the EFF (http://www.eff.org/) to back me up. But even then I feel bad asking them to help me when there's bigger fights to be fought in DC and elsewhere.

How much is a fucking godaddy account like $5 a year? or what?

I'll throw down my own cash, we can use/tweak your current layout of coachelladaily.com and find a domain like ...

mfdaily.com or mfguide.com or musicfestivalguide.com some bs like that.

or we can come up with some cool Web 2.0 name or try to figure out a web 3.0 name...

BeeII
03-17-2011, 12:17 PM
How much is a fucking godaddy account like $5 a year? or what?

I'll throw down my own cash, we can use/tweak your current layout of coachelladaily.com and find a domain like ...

mfdaily.com or mfguide.com or musicfestivalguide.com some bs like that.

or we can come up with some cool Web 2.0 name or try to figure out a web 3.0 name...

i don't want another domain name (shouldn't need one) and regardless who's to say they aren't going to come after us for just using the word "coachella."

I have to do some thinking and decide on a course of action in the meantime.

in the meantime I did email my story to Cory Doctorow (www.craphound.com), I'm not really expecting him to respond to me, but who knows?

vogina
03-17-2011, 12:18 PM
I don't understand? Were you in anyway going to be making money out of this?

Rename the site Coachella Valley, & its Music Festival - Duh - Winning!

Edit: After doing that thing I hate most, reading, I found the answer to my own question.

That sucks.

Dustin da DnB Soulja
03-17-2011, 12:19 PM
i don't want another domain name (shouldn't need one) and regardless who's to say they aren't going to come after us for just using the word "coachella."

I have to do some thinking and decide on a course of action in the meantime.

in the meantime I did email my story to Cory Doctorow (www.craphound.com), I'm not really expecting him to respond to me, but who knows?

Well if they were to come after me then we'd have a class action suit.


I don't understand? Were you in anyway going to be making money out of this?

Rename the site Coachella Valley, & its Music Festival - Duh - Winning!

Any site can become lucrative with enough users going to the site.

Whether it's the day it's created or 10 years later, any site that gets hits can become lucrative and a site like this could bring a lot of visitors esp. if we started to make articles on a lot of festivals.

guedita
03-17-2011, 12:20 PM
Was anyone actually.....reading your website?

Neighborhood Creep
03-17-2011, 12:20 PM
Please tell me that Coachella Leaks is not your site...

Aurgasm
03-17-2011, 12:22 PM
Was anyone actually.....reading your website?

I saw it earlier today in his signature and went and read it. I even listened to bands I'd never heard of before. In fact, it was my first time doing homework this year...


so yea, someone YOU KNOW reads it.

Paddy O'Furniture
03-17-2011, 12:22 PM
Thanks for posting the phone number, I'm going to have some fun with these fuckheads.

guedita
03-17-2011, 12:22 PM
Yeah, but you'll read anything. I know your game.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 12:24 PM
Was anyone actually.....reading your website?

i was getting a few hits, not many, certainly not enough to sustain the site financially. I was starting to see an uptick (i guess since it's closer to the festival date) and I started by writing posts on the smaller font artists, so people searching for those would come across my site.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 12:24 PM
Please tell me that Coachella Leaks is not your site...

no, but i wouldn't be surprised if they get a letter too. or maybe they have and told AEG to piss off. dunno.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 12:27 PM
I don't understand? Were you in anyway going to be making money out of this?

Rename the site Coachella Valley, & its Music Festival - Duh - Winning!

Edit: After doing that thing I hate most, reading, I found the answer to my own question.

That sucks.

even if i was making a pile of money, which i wasn't (I was losing money), so what? Newspapers and blogs make a living commenting on the goings-on in the world and they are within their rights to do so, under fair use.

Aurgasm
03-17-2011, 12:30 PM
Yeah, but you'll read anything. I know your game.

Isn't that a somewhat admirable characteristic given our homeland? You're just a frustrated MFA, aren't you?

BeeII
03-17-2011, 01:49 PM
I have been informed that it would appear that there is no violation of the DMCA. This LOLyer is confusing copyright with trademarks.

stay tuned...

malcolmjamalawesome
03-17-2011, 03:06 PM
oh no your shitty unnecessary site got shut down

Monko760
03-17-2011, 03:11 PM
I have been informed that it would appear that there is no violation of the DMCA. This LOLyer is confusing copyright with trademarks.

stay tuned...

It looks like from the Cached version you have ad sense on there. How about removing that till you get an assload of daily visitors, then when you have something worth fighting over, put your ads back up. They can't do anything to you if there is no ad sense or banners or any way for you to make money.

s0nn3
03-17-2011, 03:14 PM
how fucking lame....

BeeII
03-17-2011, 03:24 PM
It looks like from the Cached version you have ad sense on there. How about removing that till you get an assload of daily visitors, then when you have something worth fighting over, put your ads back up. They can't do anything to you if there is no ad sense or banners or any way for you to make money.

sure they can. it doesn't matter if you're making money or not. and i was putting ads up to try and make the site self sustainable.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 03:30 PM
oh no your shitty unnecessary site got shut down

some people found it useful. and I had fun researching the "small font" acts. I found a lot of music i didn't know about that I enjoyed.

Some acts don't have a website, some didn't have a FB and/or myspace.

AEG basically took a pillow to this newborn website's face. I'm sure in time and with more content I would have grown and had more discussion.

I was planning on blogging from the event and getting as much info up as possible. But my resources are limited and I certainly don't have the means to go up against AEG's lawyers.

Bumblebee
03-17-2011, 04:19 PM
Claiming that they own the name of a city could be used against them in a court of law.

Coachella.org run their site with no affiliation with the festival.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 04:25 PM
Claiming that they own the name of a city could be used against them in a court of law.

Coachella.org run their site with no affiliation with the festival.

If I had the means I'd tell them to piss off and go to court, and win. But I don't have the resources to do that, so they win by might.

fatbastard
03-17-2011, 04:44 PM
I'm going to heat up some pastrami in the stove.

Bumblebee
03-17-2011, 05:48 PM
If I had the means I'd tell them to piss off and go to court, and win. But I don't have the resources to do that, so they win by might.

It's all a bluff.

They wouldn't take you to court since there's no case. They have no legal claim to the name of a city unless it also includes "..Valley Music & Arts Festival". Especially if your sites explicitely say that are unofficial.

BeeII
03-17-2011, 06:17 PM
It's all a bluff.

They wouldn't take you to court since there's no case. They have no legal claim to the name of a city unless it also includes "..Valley Music & Arts Festival". Especially if your sites explicitely say that are unofficial.

well, we'll see what happens. I'm not a lawyer so there's not really a lot I can do except get my story out there.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
03-17-2011, 06:26 PM
I've had this explained to me by a lawyer before, that it's actually in a company's best interest to send cease & desist letters to everybody that seems to be using their intellectual property whatever, so matter if they're trul a threat or not...the same reason you see Disney suing nurseries that have Disney princesses painted on their playroom walls,etc.

Why this happens is that there have been instances where companies have ignored dozens of cases like this and then when they legitimately tried to take people to court, their case had problems because they were seen as cherry-picking their targets. So, they may have no intention of actually suing anybody they send C&Ds to, but being able to show that they are diligent in this practice looks good in court when it really matters.

Monko760
03-17-2011, 07:09 PM
sure they can. it doesn't matter if you're making money or not. and i was putting ads up to try and make the site self sustainable.

self sustainable is still making money, fan sites are ok, any time any money in your direction is involved its a no no. I still think your within your rights but thats why u got the letter, its the ADS!!

The drinker makes a point to, and by the stein on the end of his name he might be a jew so I would take his advice when it comes to legal matters.

BROKENDOLL
03-17-2011, 09:01 PM
Hell, I've got nothing better to do now, may as well check out this new coachella site I heard about today that could aid in my music studies.

menikmati
03-17-2011, 09:31 PM
how much was this site really costing you? I'm just curious...

Stickjohn
03-17-2011, 09:44 PM
way to rub it in lol

fatbastard
03-17-2011, 10:00 PM
The bread was a little hard, but the pastrami was good. I paid a pretty penny for it yesterday.

Wheres the beef?
03-17-2011, 10:40 PM
even if i was making a pile of money, which i wasn't (I was losing money), so what? Newspapers and blogs make a living commenting on the goings-on in the world and they are within their rights to do so, under fair use.

Nobody reads The NY Times Daily. They just read the NY Times.

Good for AEG. Your website was redundant and lame. There are plenty of resources on the main site and here on this forum for people to learn about the festival and do research. All of which can be controlled by the people who created it as they see fit. Your site did nothing but lower the quality of their product and confuse people (as it clearly states in the letter) and they are right.

Stop ripping off other peoples stuff.

Also, this:



Why this happens is that there have been instances where companies have ignored dozens of cases like this and then when they legitimately tried to take people to court, their case had problems because they were seen as cherry-picking their targets. So, they may have no intention of actually suing anybody they send C&Ds to, but being able to show that they are diligent in this practice looks good in court when it really matters.

tessalasset
03-17-2011, 11:20 PM
Also it really couldn't behoove you to redact Jason's phone number?


I'm not a lawyer so maybe we should get bmack in here, but even though AEG obviously can't trademark the word "Coachella" in general, including the city name, they probably have a trademark on "Coachella" when related to anything having to do with music or festivals.

It is random that they went after you, since your site isn't exactly an original concept, but like kingsblend said, we already have way better resources for the festival on coachella.com and in this thread. (http://coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43937)

wstsidela
03-17-2011, 11:49 PM
even if i was making a pile of money, which i wasn't (I was losing money), so what? Newspapers and blogs make a living commenting on the goings-on in the world and they are within their rights to do so, under fair use.

You can comment & blog all you want, you just can't use the Coachella name. It's the law, dummy.

Courtney
03-17-2011, 11:53 PM
I get drinkey's point, but it still seems super weird to me that AEG would go after what is basically a fan site supporting their product.

Bumblebee
03-18-2011, 04:45 AM
I'm not a lawyer so maybe we should get bmack in here, but even though AEG obviously can't trademark the word "Coachella" in general, including the city name, they probably have a trademark on "Coachella" when related to anything having to do with music or festivals.

There are other non-GV music events in Coachella that openly use the city name including a casino venue.

After parties may also be able to use "Coachella" in advertising as long as they don't use "official".

Stuff like "Coachella 2011" may be trademarked as that's what they did during the Olympics here in Vancouver.

BeeII
03-18-2011, 08:34 AM
self sustainable is still making money, fan sites are ok, any time any money in your direction is involved its a no no. I still think your within your rights but thats why u got the letter, its the ADS!!

The drinker makes a point to, and by the stein on the end of his name he might be a jew so I would take his advice when it comes to legal matters.

"fan" sites can and have, come under the same fire as something commercial. Make no mistake, I was not using any copyrighted material, no artwork, nothing. I was merely discussing the acts performing at Coachella.

Fair use makes no distinction between profit/no profit. In fact most fair use is used in the pursuit of profit (the local news playing small clips and making commentary, etc, etc).

My purpose here is more a cautionary tale. AEG is going to be aggressive if you use the word "Coachella," acting as if they own it, so be prepared.

BeeII
03-18-2011, 08:44 AM
Nobody reads The NY Times Daily. They just read the NY Times.



this has what to do with the price of tea in china?




Good for AEG. Your website was redundant and lame.



Everyone is entitled to an opinion.





There are plenty of resources on the main site and here on this forum for people to learn about the festival and do research.



According to whom? The main site was actually not enough, and not everyone wants to piss around in the forum. How ppl attend the event? 50-70K? how many are on the forum? Obviously there's plenty of people that don't come here.




All of which can be controlled by the people who created it as they see fit. Your site did nothing but lower the quality of their product and confuse people (as it clearly states in the letter) and they are right.




Turns out, in this country (at least de jure, although clearly not de facto), you don't get to control how and what people say about anything.




Stop ripping off other peoples stuff.



I was posting bio information about the bands (something NOT on coachella's website, or even really here, and facts owned by no one anyways), and posting embedded videos (many of which are offical from the bands) that are hosted on youtube. How exactly is that stealing again?


tl;dr: piss off.

BeeII
03-18-2011, 08:46 AM
Also it really couldn't behoove you to redact Jason's phone number?


I'm not a lawyer so maybe we should get bmack in here, but even though AEG obviously can't trademark the word "Coachella" in general, including the city name, they probably have a trademark on "Coachella" when related to anything having to do with music or festivals.

It is random that they went after you, since your site isn't exactly an original concept, but like kingsblend said, we already have way better resources for the festival on coachella.com and in this thread. (http://coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43937)

it's the phone number of a nice big office on wilshire, not his personal cell phone.

BeeII
03-18-2011, 08:48 AM
You can comment & blog all you want, you just can't use the Coachella name. It's the law, dummy.

Actually, by law, I can. Whether I can fight it out in court is another matter entirely.

menikmati
03-18-2011, 08:55 AM
Again I ask, how much money did you really spend on this site? You claim you had adsense on there to make up the cost....what was that cost? $11.99 for a domain name, and $4.99 or less to host it each month? Was that really setting you back that you had to run adsense (that most likely no one was gonna click on anyway - ever hear of adblock?)?

Boourns
03-18-2011, 09:04 AM
Adsense hoards every cent of a client's money until they make over $100 in revenue, anyway. Ripoff.

wstsidela
03-18-2011, 09:08 AM
Actually, by law, I can. Whether I can fight it out in court is another matter entirely.

You'll lose. Call it SummerFestival.com. Drop the Coachella name. Tell them to go fuck themselves.

BTW sorry about the dummy comment. I was tired last night. I'm on your side.

BeeII
03-18-2011, 09:26 AM
You'll lose. Call it SummerFestival.com. Drop the Coachella name. Tell them to go fuck themselves.

BTW sorry about the dummy comment. I was tired last night. I'm on your side.

It's fair use. And there already is a "summer festival" I still own the domain name, and various others similar in theme.

I might have to consult an attorney and see what I can do. I don't have time or money right now to.

BeeII
03-18-2011, 09:28 AM
Again I ask, how much money did you really spend on this site? You claim you had adsense on there to make up the cost....what was that cost? $11.99 for a domain name, and $4.99 or less to host it each month? Was that really setting you back that you had to run adsense (that most likely no one was gonna click on anyway - ever hear of adblock?)?

you can ask again, but I'm not going to answer specific financials. I have lost money on this, and that's about as much as you need to know.

Am I broke? no, but the site operates in the red.


And people actually DID click through on the google ads. But you're not going to get rich on adwords. I had a couple of other advertisers as well.

malcolmjamalawesome
03-18-2011, 09:32 AM
I might have to consult an attorney and see what I can do. I don't have time or money right now to.

Don't. Any attorney is going to advise you that it's not worth your time.

menikmati
03-18-2011, 09:36 AM
you can ask again, but I'm not going to answer specific financials. I have lost money on this, and that's about as much as you need to know.

Am I broke? no, but the site operates in the red.


And people actually DID click through on the google ads. But you're not going to get rich on adwords. I had a couple of other advertisers as well.

This is a pathetic answer...if you're using godaddy (which it seems that you did according to the WhoIs) then the cost was practically nothing. An economy plan runs $4.99 a month, which would be $59.88 a year...add say $11.99 for your domain, that is $71.87 for one year ($143.74 if you had a 2 year plan)...plus maybe a setup fee (dunno if GoDaddy charges for one of those). All in all, you paid practically next to nothing to set up a site quickly, and yet you feel you had to run ads (even though though you admit you make squat from them)? What was your real intention with the site? To offer fans a new place where they could get info and whatnot about the festival and the bands playing, or hoping to make a quick buck here and there with your "advertisers"?

menikmati
03-18-2011, 09:44 AM
And also I must say I find it funny that you say you're not broke, but "you've lost money on this" and the "site is in the red" as if this was some giant investment and that we should feel sorry for you because you "lost money" trying to operate a fan site. Why don't you go ask all the creators/site admins of other fan sites from Tool, to Nirvana, to New Order, to hell even that link in my sig...I really doubt any of them are gonna tell you they've made money off their site, and in fact, I would bet they would all tell you making money/profit was never their plan with their sites to begin with (in fact, most fan sites are set up and operate knowing that A) they shouldn't run ads and B) are not gonna be in it for the money because most likely they wouldn't make much anyway).

BeeII
03-18-2011, 09:58 AM
This is a pathetic answer...if you're using godaddy (which it seems that you did according to the WhoIs) then the cost was practically nothing. An economy plan runs $4.99 a month, which would be $59.88 a year...add say $11.99 for your domain, that is $71.87 for one year ($143.74 if you had a 2 year plan)...plus maybe a setup fee (dunno if GoDaddy charges for one of those). All in all, you paid practically next to nothing to set up a site quickly, and yet you feel you had to run ads (even though though you admit you make squat from them)? What was your real intention with the site? To offer fans a new place where they could get info and whatnot about the festival and the bands playing, or hoping to make a quick buck here and there with your "advertisers"?


And also I must say I find it funny that you say you're not broke, but "you've lost money on this" and the "site is in the red" as if this was some giant investment and that we should feel sorry for you because you "lost money" trying to operate a fan site. Why don't you go ask all the creators/site admins of other fan sites from Tool, to Nirvana, to New Order, to hell even that link in my sig...I really doubt any of them are gonna tell you they've made money off their site, and in fact, I would bet they would all tell you making money/profit was never their plan with their sites to begin with (in fact, most fan sites are set up and operate knowing that A) they shouldn't run ads and B) are not gonna be in it for the money because most likely they wouldn't make much anyway).


"practically nothing" and "nothing" are two different things. Would I have continued running the site, even it costs me money every month? Yes.

Would I prefer that the site cover it's own costs? Yes.

If the site had any left over, would I have reinvested it back into the site to be able to do more things? Yes.

abbeyroad 04
03-18-2011, 12:41 PM
But I don't need 11ty lawyers from each music festival hounding me.

11ty is the new name of my band. I'm calling it first.

marooko
03-19-2011, 09:56 AM
I'm gonna start a website called facebookdaily and wonder why people get a legal on me.

malcolmjamalawesome
03-19-2011, 09:57 AM
Yeah I do not get how this person feels he has been wronged.

Dustin da DnB Soulja
03-19-2011, 05:35 PM
http://soberchella.com

why haven't these people been gone after yet then?

BeeII
03-21-2011, 08:09 AM
http://soberchella.com

why haven't these people been gone after yet then?

maybe they have, and they decided to ignore the letter. who knows? but better to not start calling out other people.

guedita
03-21-2011, 08:16 AM
Or maybe, just maybe, "soberchella" doesn't have the letters C-O-A preceding "chella."

TommyboyUNM
03-21-2011, 08:20 AM
http://soberchella.com

why haven't these people been gone after yet then?


maybe they have, and they decided to ignore the letter. who knows? but better to not start calling out other people.

These are just guesses, but:

1) You used the name "Coachella" in your domain name. Soberchella just used the "chella" suffix and

2) Your concept was already a service, or something similar, that Goldenvoice provides on its official web site. As far as I know, Goldenvoice doesn't provide a service that let's AA members get organized at the festival. The social group on the message board is the closest.

So you're providing a service that Goldenvoice already provides, and you're using the accepted festival name to do it. Why are you crying foul and acting surprised by this development?

koryp
03-21-2011, 09:17 AM
There are a few things to note about Soberchella. Our intention with the name can be viewed as associated with the coachella valley(regardless of what we were thinking when we named it), we do provide a service that AEG cannot provide, we contacted GV and informed them of our meeting/website, and they send people contacting them about AA & NA at the festival to our website. It's a fair question, but we have no business interest in conflict, so that's why we are left alone.

BeeII
03-21-2011, 12:27 PM
These are just guesses, but:

1) You used the name "Coachella" in your domain name. Soberchella just used the "chella" suffix and

2) Your concept was already a service, or something similar, that Goldenvoice provides on its official web site. As far as I know, Goldenvoice doesn't provide a service that let's AA members get organized at the festival. The social group on the message board is the closest.

So you're providing a service that Goldenvoice already provides, and you're using the accepted festival name to do it. Why are you crying foul and acting surprised by this development?


1. If were to start a music festival and called it "Coachella" I could see a legitimate argument.

2. We argue whether GV/AEG/whatever provided the same "service" or not.

I am not surprised by these events.

TommyboyUNM
03-21-2011, 12:58 PM
The bottom line is Coachella Music Festival, LLC trademarked the name "Coachella" (http://www.trademarkia.com/coachella-85133569.html) and they have an interest in making sure that content that's branded with the name "Coachella" is coming from them. This is because trademarks make it easier for consumers to quickly identify the source of a given good (http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm#1), and also because it has sponsors that it has to answer to. If sites pop up that use the name "Coachella" and offer the same types of services as on Coachella's official web site, then the sponsors could lose out on the web traffic and Coachella's sponsorships would lose some value. It's in Coachella Music Festival, LLC's best interests to nip these things in the bud before it starts to impact revenue. They may not get every single site, and maybe have their reasons for allowing sites like soberchella.com to exist, but they are well within their rights to protect their trademark.

If you owned a trademark, I would hope you would be protective of it. I know I would.

malcolmjamalawesome
03-21-2011, 01:02 PM
Not to mention your site was probably a piece of shit and AEG was worried that someone would stumble upon it, think it was officially produced by Coachella/AEG, and then think that Coachella must totally suck because they created such an inept website.

TommyboyUNM
03-21-2011, 01:20 PM
Exactly. Trademarks benefit both the owner of the trademark and consumers.

Those words that are underlined in my last post, Bee, aren't underlined for emphasis. They're links. You should click on them and try to understand why you haven't been wronged in any way.

malcolmjamalawesome
03-21-2011, 01:22 PM
And these words are also underlined.

TommyboyUNM
03-21-2011, 01:25 PM
I'd be careful with the use of italics, MJA. You may be hearing from obzen's lawyers.

koryp
03-21-2011, 01:45 PM
Now it has underlining, italics, and a spiffy link.

And these words are also underlined. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/50-unexplainable-black-white-photos?s=mobile)