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mob roulette
03-07-2007, 08:04 PM
based on stand-up alone. not what they ended up doing with their career. vote and defend. quote. tell jokes. thank you.

SojuGorae
03-07-2007, 08:07 PM
Gallagher and Carrot Top

Hannahrain
03-07-2007, 08:08 PM
Gallagher and Carrot Top

soju, you don't even JOKE about things like that. seriously. you crossed a line.

woogie846
03-07-2007, 08:10 PM
Mitch Hedberg

SojuGorae
03-07-2007, 08:10 PM
Who's joking. Gallagher and Carrot Top were on the cutting edge.

John Peel is My Co-pilot
03-07-2007, 08:12 PM
Who's joking. Gallagher and Carrot Top were on the cutting edge.


er..strictly speaking, Gallagher was on the smashing edge...
:thu

DeltaSigChi4
03-07-2007, 08:12 PM
Carrot Top has quite the successful show on the strip.

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mob roulette
03-07-2007, 08:14 PM
this was supposed to be a poll. stupid internet. here were the choices:

lenny bruce, richard pryor, bill hicks, george carlin, chris rock, eddie murphy, margaret cho, mitch hedburg, eddie izzard, robin williams, dave chapelle

discuss

DeltaSigChi4
03-07-2007, 08:14 PM
Dave Chapppelle?

Are you serious?

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Hannahrain
03-07-2007, 08:15 PM
was there an option for "i voted on the last comedian poll"?

ps margaret cho is a good call. she was neglected on the other one.

boarderwoozel3
03-07-2007, 08:18 PM
Mitch Hedberg

yep, this is the winner

SojuGorae
03-07-2007, 08:20 PM
er..strictly speaking, Gallagher was on the smashing edge...
:thu
touche

jackstraw94086
03-07-2007, 08:20 PM
mitch hedberg had a few amusing lines. He's nowhere even remotely close to the farthest point away from the vicinity of the greatest comedians ever.

bartelby
03-07-2007, 08:22 PM
robin williams (must not be sober)

SojuGorae
03-07-2007, 08:23 PM
Seriously though, my pick for the greatest stand-up comic would be Eddie Murphy in Delirious.

mob roulette
03-07-2007, 08:24 PM
Dave Chapppelle?

Are you serious?

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dave was the eleventh choice. just to keep it interesting. some people think he's a good standup. and yeah i know, eleven's too many. but i'm mob roulette. i mock the physics of messageboards on the daily. where the fuck you been?

also i was not aware there was another comedian poll. cause sometimes i go outside.

fuckers.

Mr.Nipples
03-07-2007, 08:26 PM
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SojuGorae
03-07-2007, 08:28 PM
4xbJ8QhE8Us

That guy died way too early

Hannahrain
03-07-2007, 08:29 PM
sometimes i go outside.


Uh oh. I think we have to talk.

Lounge Fly
03-07-2007, 08:29 PM
Great question. Its hard to argue against Eddie Murphy back in the day.
I will say that I think all 3 of Chris Rocks HBO specials have been absolutely fantastic. He's very good at deliverying his lines, great facial expressions which makes it all the more hilarious

John Peel is My Co-pilot
03-07-2007, 10:09 PM
So far, only Nipples and Soju get it...

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fortydollarsworthofmeat
03-07-2007, 10:15 PM
eddie izzard.

Mr.Nipples
03-09-2007, 11:16 AM
Robert Schimmel is one of my favs. underated as all hell. he started making jokes about his 11 year old son dying of cancer and his career went to hell and nobodys heard from him since.

Benis23
03-09-2007, 11:21 AM
mitch hedberg had a few amusing lines. He's nowhere even remotely close to the farthest point away from the vicinity of the greatest comedians ever.

yeah, mitch hedbergs stuff was amusing but there wasnt much significance too it.

there's nothing better than eddie izzard's dress to kill, but his other stuff can be inconsistent.

i love patton oswalt, but apparently nobody wants to put him on their polls. david cross is awesome too.

TomAz
03-09-2007, 11:24 AM
didn't we just have a poll on this?

Richard Pryor

skavenbrew
03-09-2007, 11:25 AM
Bill Hicks.

If you think otherwise, you're wrong.

fober
03-09-2007, 11:31 AM
Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy.

Not a big fan of the whiny/angry white guy routine.

wmgaretjax
03-09-2007, 12:37 PM
lenny bruce.

Mr.Nipples
03-09-2007, 02:36 PM
lenny bruce.

michael richards ripped off lennys schtick...

codytwo
03-09-2007, 02:37 PM
michael richards ripped off lennys schtick...

Not at all.

kroqken
11-18-2008, 08:31 AM
I would say Gilbert Gottfried and Bobcat Goldthwaite. I also enjoy political comedians like Randy Credico and Will Durst.

frozen pilgrim
11-18-2008, 08:34 AM
carlin

/thread

shotglass75
11-18-2008, 08:34 AM
Don Rickles, Chris Rock, Richard Pryor

Lately Bill Burr and Doug Stanhope's latest specials on TV have had me dying.

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kroqken
11-18-2008, 08:36 AM
Jeffrey Ross is funny on the roast specials.

locachica73
11-18-2008, 08:36 AM
richard pryor and bill cosby were both good back in the day. We use to listen to the 33 of their stand up routines (yes i am old). I also remember smoking out and watching eddie murphey delirious and thinking it was the funniest shit ever, but then he just went down hill from there.

RotationSlimWang
11-18-2008, 08:42 AM
Are we not counting me?

anti-square
11-18-2008, 08:46 AM
No. You your inconsistency betrays you.


Paul Mooney.

M Sparks
11-18-2008, 08:47 AM
michael richards ripped off lennys schtick...

You're thinking of Lenny Schultz

http://www.charlesrapp.com/Images/lennysch.jpg

And the correct answer is

http://forwardescape.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/110295607_62cfc3629b.jpg

M Sparks
11-18-2008, 08:53 AM
Bill loses it...since Nips clip is broken

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Shitty video of my favorite bit...

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dorkfish
11-18-2008, 08:55 AM
Hicks wasn't consistently funny and only a couple of his routines hold up.

Bruce was never that funny. He was extremely important, though, and people always confuse that for funniness.

Carlin and Pryor stand alone with everyone else fighting for a distant third.

frozen pilgrim
11-18-2008, 08:56 AM
I think the thread should be titled
"greatest post pryor/carlin/hope comedian ever"

RotationSlimWang
11-18-2008, 09:00 AM
There is nothing inconsistent about my hilarity. And George Carlin wasn't funny a day in his fucking life, which I'm glad is over.

212margarita
11-18-2008, 09:00 AM
Richard Pryor is the best, it really should be a question of who is after him. Bob Newhart is pretty awesome, it's nothing outrageous just a funny guy saying funny shit.

M Sparks
11-18-2008, 09:06 AM
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M Sparks
11-18-2008, 09:16 AM
Bob Newhart is pretty awesome, it's nothing outrageous just a funny guy saying funny shit.

I love Newhart.

I think Greatest Ever is impossible, because there's so many different styles. I say Hicks because he's the most important to me. But Newhart was a master of what he did, Cosby was a master of what he did, ect.

I can give you reasons why someone SHOULDN'T be "greatest ever", but I can't defend why someone SHOULD. That said, about half the people on this "poll" shouldn't be.

M Sparks
11-18-2008, 09:25 AM
Robert Schimmel is one of my favs. underated as all hell. he started making jokes about his 11 year old son dying of cancer and his career went to hell and nobodys heard from him since.

Seriously? I didn't even know he had a son. He always talked about having a grown daughter and a little girl. He had cancer himself, didn't he?

I don't know, I kinda think he just ran out of steam. He finally got that big 1 hour HBO special, and 90% of the material I had already heard on his albums. And then he had the nerve to release THAT as an album. That's when he lost me.

I'd hardly put him anywhere near the top 10, but for me, he was the only one who could pull off genuinely filthy material. I could never stand Dice and others like him, but Schimmel gave filth heart. Actually, so does Stanhope, but it's not the centerpiece of his act.

Sonicifyouwantit
11-18-2008, 11:12 AM
Steve Martins old work always gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. These days Patton Oswalt

locachica73
11-18-2008, 11:14 AM
I get a kick out of the guy with the puppets. Bill Durham or some shit.

zenidogx
11-18-2008, 11:24 AM
best ever: Carlin
best retired: Steve Martin
best to die unexpectedly: Mitch Hedberg
best today: Patton Oswalt
best underrated: Gottfried/ MacDonald

and of course Pryor, Cosby, Bruce, Hicks
and also: Cheech (but not Chong), Mencia, Cook

BlackSwan
11-18-2008, 11:24 AM
Best comedian I've ever seen live is Robin Williams. Greatest Comedian Ever is as silly as any "greatest ever" proclamation.

faxman75
11-18-2008, 11:32 AM
carlin

/thread


Hard to disagree with this one. Think about it. Most great comidians have 1 maybe 2 fantastic comedy records or HBO specials. Eddie Murphy had what, RAW and Delerious. Prior had 3 in a row. 1975 for That ******'s Crazy, 1976 for Is It Something I Said?, 1977 for Bicentennial ****** then had some awesome specials in the early 80's.

Carlin put out good consistant funny shit his entire career with very few missteps and mediocre stuff. I really can't think of a bad Carlin special on HBO. From Carnegie back in 1982 to the latest "it's bad for ya".

I would put Goerge Carlin at 1 and Richard Prior at #2.

M Sparks
11-18-2008, 12:23 PM
best today: Patton Oswalt

Agreed. You just won a free pass on the next idiotic thing you say.



and also: Mencia

You're welcome.

frozen pilgrim
11-18-2008, 12:33 PM
carlos mencia should be shot.

TommyboyUNM
11-18-2008, 12:39 PM
Shotglass is the only person to have mentioned Chris Rock today. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. George Carlin was ok and VERY influential, but he was just a bitterman a lot of the time.

locachica73
11-18-2008, 12:41 PM
I have seen Chris Rock's stand up and it didn't do much for me. I have seen Damon Wayans do stand up and laughed till it hurt but I wouldn't put him in with any of the top comedians. But I do agree on the George Carlin being a bitter man. I never really got it. I also really liked Sam Kinneson (sp?).

TommyboyUNM
11-18-2008, 12:45 PM
Oh and I think hyping up Mitch Hedberg and Bill Hicks is on the list of things you need to do to get indie/non-conformist cred. And I really like both of those comedians a lot.

allyjoy
11-18-2008, 12:49 PM
I would put Goerge Carlin at 1 and Richard Prior at #2.

Carlin is funny, but he never not once did a set that was truly personal. Pryor is number one because he could take the lowest moments of his life and turn it into joy. He makes you laugh in spite of the misery.

sbessiso
11-18-2008, 12:49 PM
I L:pulse:pulseVE Demetri Martin and Chris Rock and Wanda Sykes had some quality shit back in the day

paganman7
11-18-2008, 12:50 PM
http://www.in-sect.com/scr/mitch_hedberg.jpg



RIP homie.

BlackSwan
11-18-2008, 12:52 PM
best today: Patton Oswalt


uninformed opinion.


I have seen Damon Wayans do stand up and laughed till it hurt but I wouldn't put him in with any of the top comedians.

Was it old Damon Wayans? because I got dragged to one of his shows last year and it was one of the most unfunny shows I have ever seen. There were literally points where he wasn't making jokes and just expressing hate towards women... he'd just be like "Britney Spears is a stupid bitch." He had just gotten divorced though so maybe he was just in a bad place.

Wheres the beef?
11-18-2008, 12:53 PM
Wow has nobody seen Delirious or Raw?

sbessiso
11-18-2008, 12:53 PM
*sigh* I gotta say it....most overrated: Mitch Hedberg


Wow has nobody seen Delirious or Raw?

I'll take HALF his money!!

I dunno why, but I just love that part^^

locachica73
11-18-2008, 12:55 PM
I Loved Delirious, I still catch myself quoting it on occasion. Especially whenever I hear the ice cream man in my neighborhood. Raw wasn't quite as funny but still a good thing to watch with a joint in your hand.

paganman7
11-18-2008, 12:59 PM
*sigh* I gotta say it....most overrated: Mitch Hedberg



Fucking booooooooooooooo...



Hey Frampton...do you like toast too?

zenidogx
11-18-2008, 01:35 PM
uninformed opinion.





inform me BlackSwan.
please, please inform me.

Patton is the most fucking brilliant guy out there today.

Backwater
11-18-2008, 01:41 PM
*sigh* I gotta say it....most overrated: Mitch Hedberg


Yep, he was definitely one of the most overrated, that's for sure.

I skimmed through this thread rather fast so maybe I missed it but did nobody mention Jerry Seinfeld after three pages? If so, that's a shame.

shotglass75
11-18-2008, 01:45 PM
best ever: Carlin
best retired: Steve Martin
best to die unexpectedly: Mitch Hedberg
best today: Patton Oswalt
best underrated: Gottfried/ MacDonald

and of course Pryor, Cosby, Bruce, Hicks
and also: Cheech (but not Chong), Mencia, Cook

everything you were saying was pretty spot on until you said Mencia and Cook. You are retarded

TommyboyUNM
11-18-2008, 01:51 PM
I skimmed through this thread rather fast so maybe I missed it but did nobody mention Jerry Seinfeld after three pages? If so, that's a shame.


What's the deal with no mention of Seinfeld! I don't get it!

locachica73
11-18-2008, 01:52 PM
I have never got the seinfeld thing, I think it might be a guy thing.

allyjoy
11-18-2008, 01:52 PM
Seinfeld said Pryor was better. fact.

sbessiso
11-18-2008, 01:53 PM
and whats the deal with airline food??

shotglass75
11-18-2008, 01:53 PM
[QUOTE=sbessiso;823788]*sigh* I gotta say it....most overrated: Mitch Hedberg
Agreed.


Just naming some others of interest.

Steven Wright
Sam Kinison
Bill Burr (love the guy's delivery)
Chappelle
Rock
Dangerfield
Rickles (you should die if you don't like Rickles)
Seinfeld (you gotta give him credit)
Dice (not so much nowadays, but back in 80 something he was on fire)
Doug Stanhope (Seriously, everyone should check him out. He sucked on The Man Show but this stand up special is one of my favorites)
Oswalt
Jeffery Ross
Silverman (funniest chick I've ever seen perform)
Williams (on Coke)

locachica73
11-18-2008, 01:56 PM
I seen Andrew Dice Clay so many times I use to be able to recite it word for word. Good times. Now I want to have an 80's / early 90's DVD marathon of comedy.

LooseAtTheZoo
11-18-2008, 01:57 PM
Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Billy Crystal, Steve Martin, Don Rickles, Richard Pryor, for starters.

I like Mitch Hedburg, but I also think his early death greatly contributed to his canonization that some might dispute he deserves

Backwater
11-18-2008, 01:57 PM
I have never got the seinfeld thing, I think it might be a guy thing.

No, there's just as many ladies that think he's hilarious as there are guys. Oddly enough, I never liked the sitcom. It never really made me laugh so I always just assumed his stand up wasn't very funny either. I couldn't have been more wrong.

Whenever you have time I highly suggest checking this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY5AVBSjTAQ

The whole thing is right there on youtube and I promise you will laugh your ass off if you just give it a chance.

locachica73
11-18-2008, 01:58 PM
Yeah I guess my thing was I never liked the show, I will have to check that out when I get home. youtube doesnt work at work. damn them.

LooseAtTheZoo
11-18-2008, 01:59 PM
I forgot Woody Allen standup in his prime, too!

Backwater
11-18-2008, 02:03 PM
Well you really have something to look forward to when you get home locachica. I've seen it several times with different people and I've yet to find anyone who doesn't think it's absolutely hilarious. It puts people in tears.

shotglass75
11-18-2008, 05:50 PM
How did I forget about Louis C.K? Jesus, that guy is fucking brilliant

Backwater
11-18-2008, 05:56 PM
Dane Cook stole so much material from Louis C.K.

zenidogx
11-18-2008, 05:59 PM
everything you were saying was pretty spot on until you said Mencia and Cook. You are retarded

:rotfl

wow, people took me seriously on Cook and Mencia.

but for reals, yo, Hedberg was fucking brilliant. i sawr Salah dissing him, but Salah, you gotta realize that without Hedberg, Demetri Martin wouldn't be around.

also, i forgot to give props to Rickles. the insult master. makes Ross look like a bitch.

woogie846
11-18-2008, 06:09 PM
Jackie Mason

kroqken
11-18-2008, 06:29 PM
Jackie Mason is too right wing for me. Every Thanksgiving I go to the Laugh Factory where not only do they give a free Thanksgiving dinner but also a free comedy show. Last year, Paul Rodriguez, Paul Mooney, Dane Cooke and some other "name": comedians performed.

shotglass75
11-18-2008, 06:38 PM
:rotfl

wow, people took me seriously on Cook and Mencia.

but for reals, yo, Hedberg was fucking brilliant. i sawr Salah dissing him, but Salah, you gotta realize that without Hedberg, Demetri Martin wouldn't be around.

also, i forgot to give props to Rickles. the insult master. makes Ross look like a bitch.

Thank God you were kidding. I think if I was dying and had a make a wish thing going for me I would have Rickles insult me for an hour. To be ripped to shreds by that guy is an honor

woogie846
11-18-2008, 06:41 PM
Jackie Mason is too right wing for me. Every Thanksgiving I go to the Laugh Factory where not only do they give a free Thanksgiving dinner but also a free comedy show. Last year, Paul Rodriguez, Paul Mooney, Dane Cooke and some other "name": comedians performed.

He is pretty right wing, but when he started making fun of Obama when I saw him over the summer, I don't think I've ever laughed so hard in my life.

kroqken
11-18-2008, 06:56 PM
Jackie Mason was pretty funny in Caddyshack 2, his romance with Diane Canon was very ludicrous.

Abe Lincoln
11-18-2008, 11:49 PM
Nobody mentioned Albert Brooks.

RotationSlimWang
11-19-2008, 12:11 AM
Seinfeld said Pryor was better. fact.

Every comedian says Pryor is better. You should've picked a funny comedian to back up your argument with thought. Seinfeld is the reason stand-up comedy turned into a talentless, joyless circle jerk of stupid fucking observations and sportsjackets.


How did I forget about Louis C.K? Jesus, that guy is fucking brilliant

Indeed, he's easily one in the top three for consistently non-stop bursting laughter. Lack of social commentary puts him out of contention though.


Nobody mentioned Albert Brooks.

Only time he was ever funny was as a voice on The Simpsons, that's why.




Oh, and Rock is the best. Ever. It's a fact.

paulb
11-19-2008, 03:32 AM
George Carlin.

Wheres the beef?
11-19-2008, 11:45 AM
Joe Rogan is pretty fucking funny....not best-ever-funny but pretty fucking funny

Plus he called out Carlos Mencia as a hack which is just awesome.

TommyboyUNM
11-19-2008, 11:51 AM
Oh, and Rock is the best. Ever. It's a fact.


I couldn't agree more. He's even better than, dare I say it, Richard Pryor. And I know someone will come back with "Well Chris Rock even said Richard Pryor is the best ever." I don't care. Rock is the best. He does a lot of what Seinfeld does, but in a less corny way.

sbessiso
11-19-2008, 11:53 AM
He kept me in stitches at Bonnaroo. I'm so happy we got to experience him live

TommyboyUNM
11-19-2008, 11:54 AM
I like Mitch Hedburg, but I also think his early death greatly contributed to his canonization that some might dispute he deserves


This is very true. He was funny, but my god people jumped on him so hard. I think it became cool to say that you liked Mitch Hedberg and that it sucks he died so young. Just like with Bill Hicks, even though I liked him too. Hicks and Hedberg are almost like "hipster" comedians.

TommyboyUNM
11-19-2008, 11:57 AM
He kept me in stitches at Bonnaroo. I'm so happy we got to experience him live


Ah man Salah I was really impressed with the way he kept that huge of a crowd just totally focused on his act. He was great that night. That was the 2nd time I had seen him.

By the way, if anyone wants to PM me I might share the 5 minutes of pure rubbish that is known as my stand-up routine. It's easy to be funny in conversation, but it's a craft to have it translate to a stand-up set. I've done it once and it's a whole different beast, but I still had fun with it.

zenidogx
11-19-2008, 12:00 PM
I loved Hedberg before I listened to hipster music. he was the shit. i was sad when he died because he was supposed to be my first stand-up to see live.

karecares
11-19-2008, 12:05 PM
i can't call the greatest ever but imo here are the greats:

carlin (there's very little i not like and that was a long career)
richard pryor
paul mooney (you cannot have pryor without mooney, anyone want to argue that)
eddie murphy (pre beverly hills cop)
dangerfield - what's wrong with you guys? no mention!
seinfeld - and oh yeah i'm a girl
robin williams
andy kaufman

i wish i could add a woman on this list but frankly sarah silverman is the funniest i can think of and she is yet to deserve the word great attatched to her

zenidogx
11-19-2008, 12:11 PM
zomg, Dangerfield. good call.

Kaufman was a hell of an entertainer. for that matter, we should include Galifianakis as a true great of today.

frozen pilgrim
11-19-2008, 02:54 PM
Joe Rogan is pretty fucking funny....not best-ever-funny but pretty fucking funny

Plus he called out Carlos Mencia as a hack which is just awesome.

what's even funnier is he did it on stage...
during carlos mencia's act.

karecares
11-19-2008, 03:07 PM
i'm going to youtube this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M42BflUZry8

TheWatcher
11-19-2008, 03:11 PM
Why so few females in stand-up comedy?

From the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/30/AR2007033002318.html):


Excepting comic actresses, which is a very different thing, the list of famous female stand-ups is a short one.

Almost all the best-known from the past couple of generations can be listed in short order: Joan Rivers, Totie Fields, Phyllis Diller, Minnie Pearl, Elaine May and Moms Mabley in the Sullivan era. Lily Tomlin was a comic queen of the 1970s. Then came Whoopi Goldberg, Elayne Boosler, Sandra Bernhard, Roseanne Barr, Rita Rudner, Brett Butler, Paula Poundstone, Ellen DeGeneres. Then there's Caroline Rhea, Joy Behar, Margaret Cho, Rosie O'Donnell. Also emerging largely in the '90s: Janeane Garafalo, Wendy Liebman, Kathy Griffin and Wanda Sykes, as well as Sarah Silverman (whose Comedy Central show is a new hit). Add in a few up-and-comers, such as Lisa Lampanelli, and you've about covered the field.

LooseAtTheZoo
11-19-2008, 03:13 PM
Kaufman is great, but even he didn't call his act a comedy act.

The only thing I don't like about Chris Rock is how he has not diversified his form of comedy, nor subject matter at all. For me, that's important. But he is damn funny with the subjects he sticks too.

shotglass75
11-19-2008, 03:16 PM
i can't call the greatest ever but imo here are the greats:

carlin (there's very little i not like and that was a long career)
richard pryor
paul mooney (you cannot have pryor without mooney, anyone want to argue that)
eddie murphy (pre beverly hills cop)
dangerfield - what's wrong with you guys? no mention!
seinfeld - and oh yeah i'm a girl
robin williams
andy kaufman

i wish i could add a woman on this list but frankly sarah silverman is the funniest i can think of and she is yet to deserve the word great attatched to her


I mentioned Dangerfield on the last page. PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE!!!!

karecares
11-19-2008, 03:18 PM
my apologies... no disrepect

shotglass75
11-19-2008, 03:23 PM
I don't get no respect, no respect at all!!!!!

Jesus Christ
11-19-2008, 05:22 PM
I always thought Peter was pretty funny.

garrett222
11-19-2008, 05:40 PM
Best new comedian: Jim Gaffigan
Best Singing Comedian: Stephen Lynch
Best all around performer: Dane Cook
Best all time favorite of mine: Seinfeld
Best Old SkooL Comedians who no one seems to let go of: Pryor, Carlin, Kinison, Martin, Dangerfield

M Sparks
11-19-2008, 05:41 PM
I think it became cool to say that you liked Mitch Hedberg and that it sucks he died so young. Just like with Bill Hicks

There were actually plenty of us who liked Hicks in the 80's, when he was a Letterman regular. It's just that he had so much recorded material bottled up that didn't get released until he was dead.

Admittedly, he didn't really reach his potential until the last few years of his life. If he had died in, say, '87, we wouldn't be talking about him.

I read American Scream a few years back. It freaked me the fuck out. Supposedly, when he was tripping, he would kind of claw at his side and say "I've got to get it out." This was many years before he knew he was sick.

zenidogx
11-19-2008, 06:03 PM
Best new comedian: Jim Gaffigan
Best Singing Comedian: Stephen Lynch
Best all around performer: Dane Cook
Best all time favorite of mine: Seinfeld
Best Old SkooL Comedians who no one seems to let go of: Pryor, Carlin, Kinison, Martin, Dangerfield

first, no.
second, i'll argue Galifianakis is the better performer.

garrett222
11-19-2008, 06:18 PM
first, no.
second, i'll argue Galifianakis is the better performer.

i don't know said comedian but that intrigues me. I think dane cook is a badass and he's my pick..

I also forgot to mention my pick for best one liners: Mitch Hedberg

Backwater
11-19-2008, 06:23 PM
The only thing I don't like about Chris Rock is how he has not diversified his form of comedy, nor subject matter at all. For me, that's important. But he is damn funny with the subjects he sticks too.

Exactly, he needs more variety. I still think him and Seinfeld are the best living comedians though.

Mitch Hedberg is like Heath Ledger, average at best and nobody cared about either of them until they died young.

As far as the most underrated comedian goes, it's Rich Williams. Has anyone ever heard of this guy? He's so fucking funny.

frozen pilgrim
11-19-2008, 06:49 PM
I could list 20 comedians funnier than chris rock.
you people just like having an excuse to laugh at black jokes.

Backwater
11-19-2008, 06:56 PM
you people just like having an excuse to laugh at black jokes.

What ... The ... Fuck?????

zenidogx
11-19-2008, 06:58 PM
I could list 20 comedians funnier than chris rock.
you people just like having an excuse to laugh at black jokes.

QFT

Backwater
11-19-2008, 07:05 PM
You two are a couple of retards. So what are you trying to say, that we're racists because we think Chris Rock is funny? Oh and go ahead and make that list, Rock will be funnier than all 20 of them, guaranteed.

LooseAtTheZoo
11-19-2008, 07:17 PM
Plenty at people laugh at black jokes without Chris Rock's help. Sarah Silverman makes more black jokes than Rock

Boourns
11-19-2008, 07:22 PM
Chris Rock is funny as hell.

M Sparks
11-19-2008, 07:24 PM
Why so few females in stand-up comedy?

From the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/30/AR2007033002318.html):

There are actually plenty of female comics, and the ratio of good ones to bad ones is probably similar to men...that is, about 1 out of 20.

I think people are more reluctant to embrace "dangerous" female comics. And there are very few great comics who aren't "dangerous". So most of them play it safe. Which is fine if you're Ellen DeGeneres or Rita Rudner and you're smart enough to make it work. Mostly, it just comes off hacky.

Another thing...there are tons of legendary women in SKETCH comedy. Being a struggling stand up is like living in a frat house.I think a lot of women choose NOT to live life on the road sleeping in crappy comedy club condos, and focus on improv groups.

It's mainly good old fashioned sexism though. I saw Jen Kirkman and Natasha Leggero at UCB a few months ago. They were talking about some new Judd Apatow movie where Adam Sandler plays a stand-up comic, and they were casting real stand-ups in a lot of the supporting roles. But you had to be 18-22 to try out for the main female comic role. So these two were basically being told they were too old to play someone who was probably a love interest for Seth Rogan or something...

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So they get beat down before they're even old enough to really find their voice. By the way, Kirkman is hilarious...don't know much about Leggero.

This article is very flawed. Just because the writer doesn't seem to know very many female comics doesn't mean they don't exist. The fact that Lisa Lamponeli is listed as the only "up-n-comer" is absurd. She's been around forever for one thing. It's like they based this article on one trip to the Frier's Club. I mean, Maria Bamford and Kathleen Madigan are both mentioned in the article, yet don't make the list of "well known female comics". (I've been a fan of both for years.)

Bamford & Madigan, Megan Murphy...Bonnie McFarland...Susie Essman...there I just increased your list by 20% without really trying. Judy Gold, Judy Tenuta, Liz Winsted, Julia Sweeney, Anne Mirra (OK, so she was part of a team), Chelsea Handler...

LooseAtTheZoo
11-19-2008, 07:37 PM
There are actually plenty of female comics, and the ratio of good ones to bad ones is probably similar to men...that is, about 1 out of 20.

I think people are more reluctant to embrace "dangerous" female comics. And there are very few great comics who aren't "dangerous". So most of them play it safe. Which is fine if you're Ellen DeGeneres or Rita Rudner and you're smart enough to make it work. Mostly, it just comes off hacky.

Another thing...there are tons of legendary women in SKETCH comedy. Being a struggling stand up is like living in a frat house.I think a lot of women choose NOT to live life on the road sleeping in crappy comedy club condos, and focus on improv groups.

It's mainly good old fashioned sexism though. I saw Jen Kirkman and Natasha Leggero at UCB a few months ago. They were talking about some new Judd Apatow movie where Adam Sandler plays a stand-up comic, and they were casting real stand-ups in a lot of the supporting roles. But you had to be 18-22 to try out for the main female comic role. So these two were basically being told they were too old to play someone who was probably a love interest for Seth Rogan or something...

http://www.ucbtheatre.com/i/performer/kirkman_jentwo.jpg
http://www.ucbtheatre.com/i/performer/leggero_natasha.jpg

So they get beat down before they're even old enough to really find their voice. By the way, Kirkman is hilarious...don't know much about Leggero.

This article is very flawed. Just because the writer doesn't seem to know very many female comics doesn't mean they don't exist. The fact that Lisa Lamponeli is listed as the only "up-n-comer" is absurd. She's been around forever for one thing. It's like they based this article on one trip to the Frier's Club. I mean, Maria Bamford and Kathleen Madigan are both mentioned in the article, yet don't make the list of "well known female comics". (I've been a fan of both for years.)

Bamford & Madigan, Megan Murphy...Bonnie McFarland...Susie Essman...there I just increased your list by 20% without really trying. Judy Gold, Judy Tenuta, Liz Winsted, Julia Sweeney, Anne Mirra (OK, so she was part of a team), Chelsea Handler...

Oh God, Susie Essman... I need my fix

"Shut the fuck up Larry!"

I miss Curb Your Enthusiasm

TommyboyUNM
11-19-2008, 07:44 PM
I could list 20 comedians funnier than chris rock.
you people just like having an excuse to laugh at black jokes.


Dude are you fucking kidding me? List 20 comedians then. And I never need an excuse to laugh at black jokes :)

frozen pilgrim
11-19-2008, 07:46 PM
I'm exaggerating about the black jokes thing. not about the 20 comedians.
also, watching the new south park.

I'll come back to this, promise :)

AndrewDiceClay
11-19-2008, 07:48 PM
fucking ignorant idiot jamooks.
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Backwater
11-19-2008, 07:48 PM
also, watching the new south park.


Ah, thanks for the reminder. I would have forget if you wouldn't have said something. So far this season has been dismal though.

karecares
11-19-2008, 08:11 PM
i liked tonights south park but jon stewart had lewis black on tonight i forgot how great the lewis was

kroqken
11-19-2008, 08:16 PM
Lewis Black was funny in the film "Undeclared", playing the wacky uncle to one of the younger characters. Rent it, Blake Lively is in it.

karecares
11-19-2008, 08:22 PM
i'll put it on my to watch list

kroqken
11-19-2008, 08:28 PM
Lewis Black has a lot of philosophical musings/rantings that Generations X, Y and Baby Boomers could benefit from.

karecares
11-19-2008, 08:29 PM
i agree and i'd even say that in regards to jon stewart

kroqken
11-19-2008, 08:36 PM
Why is Jon Stewart funny on his cable show, but not whenever he hosts the Academy Awards? Also, does anyone remember his short lived mid 1990s late night show on syndicated television? He had the weirdest cohost, even weirder than the cohost on Oddville, a short lived variety show on MTV that no one remembers.

zenidogx
11-19-2008, 08:50 PM
Mitch Hedberg is like Heath Ledger, average at best and nobody cared about either of them until they died young.


STFU.
no no no.
Mitch Hedberg has always been awesome.


I could list 20 comedians funnier than chris rock.


i could list 21:
George Carlin
Richard Pryor
Steve Martin
Lenny Bruce
Bill Cosby
Mitch Hedberg
Rodney Dangerfield
Paul Mooney
Gilbert Gottfried
Denis Leary
Don Rickles
Bill Hicks
Norm MacDonald
Patton Oswalt
Lewis Black
Dennis Miller
Zach Galifianakis
Louis C.K.
Dave Attell
David Cross
Bernie Mac

kroqken
11-19-2008, 08:52 PM
Dennis Miller is a right wing prick and a pale version of his earlier career. He should stick to giving hand jobs to Bill O'Reilly.

zenidogx
11-19-2008, 08:53 PM
his style is so good though. colin quinn is also a prick, but miller has his shit down.

ooh, Patrice O'Neal, that dude's hilarious.

kroqken
11-19-2008, 08:55 PM
Miller is not funny, he just tries to show off his pedantic vocabulary.

Mr.Nipples
11-19-2008, 08:57 PM
dennis miller was never really funny, not even as a weekend update anchor.

TommyboyUNM
11-19-2008, 09:07 PM
i could list 21:



George Carlin - Has a case, but just doesn't cut it.
Richard Pryor - See above
Steve Martin - That arrow in the head gag was HILARIOUS. Try again.
Lenny Bruce - Wrong
Bill Cosby - Nah too "nice" for my liking.
Mitch Hedberg - Good but way overrated.
Rodney Dangerfield - Lol really?
Paul Mooney - Ok he is pretty underrated, but this is a miss.
Gilbert Gottfried - WTF really?
Denis Leary - Nope
Don Rickles - Awesome insult comic, but nope.
Bill Hicks - Like him a lot, but sorry.
Norm MacDonald - WTF reallly?
Patton Oswalt - Try again.
Lewis Black - Good at what he does, but not at Rock's level.
Dennis Miller - Saw him live and it was funny, but c'mon.
Zach Galifianakis - I actually haven't seen him, but I want to.
Louis C.K. - Love his stand-up, but not as much as Rock
Dave Attell - Very simple jokes compared to Rock.
David Cross - Awesome writer, but doesn't translate as well on stage.
Bernie Mac - Rock can do what he did, but he can't do what Rock does.

JSam67
11-19-2008, 09:10 PM
Galifianakis is hysterical, Louis C.K. too, but Hedberg, Pryor and Rock are the funniest in my book.

Backwater
11-19-2008, 09:13 PM
Nobody has mentioned Ralphie May, he's fucking hysterical. You can just look at him and laugh.

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zenidogx
11-19-2008, 09:15 PM
:nono

TommyboyUNM
11-19-2008, 09:23 PM
Ralphie May is actually pretty hilarious. I've heard him say some funny shit on the Opie and Anthony show.


*edit* Speaking of O&A, I kinda like Jim Norton's stand-up.

kroqken
11-19-2008, 09:29 PM
Bobby Slayton can be funny sometimes. He is my brother's next door neighbor. Rick Overton also has his funny moments. I used to like Richard Jeni back in the day.

Backwater
11-19-2008, 09:31 PM
Speaking of O&A, I kinda like Jim Norton's stand-up.

Ha, I just got done talking to my dad on the phone and he said, "You gotta check out this Jim Norton guy, he's really funny." I thought he was the best at the Bob Saget roast.

kroqken
11-19-2008, 10:08 PM
Two lead singers that are quite funny in concert are the lead singer of the Hives and the lead singer of Art Brut. Both have rapier wits.

TommyboyUNM
11-19-2008, 10:23 PM
Two lead singers that are quite funy in concert are the lead singer of the Hives and the lead singer of Art Brut. Both have rapier wits.


The lead singer that probably made me laugh the most is Glen Hansard (The Frames and The Swell Season). Though I can't say I've seen very many funny lead singers. Maynard was pretty funny at Bonnaroo in 2007. He was taunting the crowd the entire show, but I wasn't there. Thom Yorke was funny when he was doing "You And Whose Army?" when I saw Radiohead in Chula Vista. I guess the close up of his lazy eye made him laugh.

kroqken
11-19-2008, 10:24 PM
Man, that is cruel. Yorke was not intentionally trying to be funny.

M Sparks
11-20-2008, 05:53 AM
i could list 21:
George Carlin
Richard Pryor
Steve Martin
Lenny Bruce
Bill Cosby
Mitch Hedberg
Rodney Dangerfield
Paul Mooney
Gilbert Gottfried
Denis Leary
Don Rickles
Bill Hicks
Norm MacDonald
Patton Oswalt
Lewis Black
Dennis Miller
Zach Galifianakis
Louis C.K.
Dave Attell
David Cross
Bernie Mac

Technically, that's only 20. Bill Hicks and Denis Leary have the same act. :D

M Sparks
11-20-2008, 05:55 AM
I used to like Richard Jeni back in the day.

What about now?

M Sparks
11-20-2008, 06:01 AM
Ha, I just got done talking to my dad on the phone and he said, "You gotta check out this Jim Norton guy, he's really funny." I thought he was the best at the Bob Saget roast.

I love Norton on the radio, but don't get into his stand-up too much. He does get major points for brutal, painful honesty. I hear his new book is fantastic...each chapter is just a rant about one person he hates.

Speaking of Norton, did anybody see his Down & Dirty series recently? There was a guy on there who just killed me, but I don't know his name. Normally, I don't like comics who are just all about explicit sex jokes...I said earlier Schimmel was the only one who could pull it off. But this guy did a solid 5 minutes about trying to have sex in the shower that was fantastic. And he ended with his pants down and his junk out, so points for bravery.

shotglass75
11-20-2008, 06:05 AM
Why is Jon Stewart funny on his cable show, but not whenever he hosts the Academy Awards? Also, does anyone remember his short lived mid 1990s late night show on syndicated television? He had the weirdest cohost, even weirder than the cohost on Oddville, a short lived variety show on MTV that no one remembers.


Because he doesn't have the same writers writing for him for The Academy Awards.

M Sparks
11-20-2008, 06:47 AM
Steve Martin - That arrow in the head gag was HILARIOUS. Try again.

Funny, I've got several old Steve Martin albums and never saw him do this. See, because it's an album, and you have to talk to be funny, not just wear funny hats. I will admit "King Tut" is unforgivable.

He's more a great writer than a great comic, which is probably why he retired. "Pure Drivel" is genius.


Bill Cosby - Nah too "nice" for my liking.
Who cares if they he's nice. The guy was a master storyteller. In fact, I might be willing to change my vote here...I think Cosby is my favorite of all time. His body of work from the 60s is untouchable. "Revenge" is probably my favorite album, but they're all good. If you want something less nice, try "It's True It's True", which is his "dirty" album. It was recorded during a musicians strike in Vegas or Reno or something like that, and he was ad-libbing an extra 45 minutes a night to fill the time. (It's not anywhere near his best work, though.)


Gilbert Gottfried - WTF really?

This woman would disagree with you...
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There is an HBO special with Gottfried on stage with a bunch of Miami style props...maybe my favorite 30 minute comedy special ever.


Patton Oswalt - Try again.
David Cross - Awesome writer, but doesn't translate as well on stage.

Both of these guys aren't going to be to everyone's taste, but for me, they are the top two working today along with Louis CK.


Zach Galifianakis - I actually haven't seen him, but I want to.

Easily in my top 10 Coachella moments...
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TommyboyUNM
11-20-2008, 07:32 AM
Funny, I've got several old Steve Martin albums and never saw him do this. See, because it's an album, and you have to talk to be funny, not just wear funny hats. I will admit "King Tut" is unforgivable.

He's more a great writer than a great comic, which is probably why he retired. "Pure Drivel" is genius.

Lol I more just brought up the arrow through the head because I was exaggerating. He is a great writer, but I didn't like some of the stand-up I saw. Admittedly, I haven't seen/heard nearly enough of his work. The Jerk is one of my favorite comedies, though. I really respect Steve Martin.



Who cares if they he's nice. The guy was a master storyteller. In fact, I might be willing to change my vote here...I think Cosby is my favorite of all time. His body of work from the 60s is untouchable. "Revenge" is probably my favorite album, but they're all good. If you want something less nice, try "It's True It's True", which is his "dirty" album. It was recorded during a musicians strike in Vegas or Reno or something like that, and he was ad-libbing an extra 45 minutes a night to fill the time. (It's not anywhere near his best work, though.)


He is very much a great story teller. I'm not sure if there's many comedians who could make a story about his kids wanting chocolate cake for breakfast seem as funny as Cosby did. Comedy is subjective, for the most part, and he doesn't suit my interests.




This woman would disagree with you...
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There is an HBO special with Gottfried on stage with a bunch of Miami style props...maybe my favorite 30 minute comedy special ever.


I'll have to watch this when I'm not watching/listening to commercials here at work. Damn job gets in the way of my life. He may be funnier than I give him credit for, but I highly doubt he is on Chris Rock's level overall.




Both of these guys aren't going to be to everyone's taste, but for me, they are the top two working today along with Louis CK.


Louis CK is definitely hilarious. I would've checked him out at Bonnaroo if I had time to stand in line for the comedy tent. Too bad Lucky Louie got cancelled so soon.




Easily in my top 10 Coachella moments...


Again, I'll check this out when I'm free to do so. He was also at Bonnaroo and even appeared with My Morning Jacket on stage during their closer dressed as Little Orphan Annie. They did "Home Sweet Home" by Motley Crue.

frozen pilgrim
11-20-2008, 07:50 AM
Easily in my top 10 Coachella moments...
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oh man... and then brian posehn came on, and delivered another epic favorite moment. also the first full set I saw of anyone at coachella.
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SFChrissy
11-20-2008, 08:20 AM
i don't know about best but
sandra bernhardt and margaret cho are pretty ephing funny!!!

M Sparks
11-20-2008, 09:45 AM
He is very much a great story teller. I'm not sure if there's many comedians who could make a story about his kids wanting chocolate cake for breakfast seem as funny as Cosby did. Comedy is subjective, for the most part, and he doesn't suit my interests.

Try his mid-to-late 60s stuff if you haven't already. That cake bit was 15 years past his prime.

Again, all subjective. I like Chris Rock a lot, but I'm always amazed he gets such reverence. It's all one note to me...a very hilarious note, but one note. Of course so is Gilbert. It's just a funnier note to me. I'm more into absurdist stuff.

kroqken
11-20-2008, 10:01 AM
As for Richard Jeni, I have not seen him perform lately, so I cannot comment. They used to have "alternative comedians" in Los Angeles at some show called Uncabaret. I saw Judy Tenuta there once at some long gone club called Luna Park in West Hollywood.

TommyboyUNM
11-20-2008, 11:55 AM
As for Richard Jeni, I have not seen him perform lately, so I cannot comment. They used to have "alternative comedians" in Los Angeles at some show called Uncabaret. I saw Judy Tenuta there once at some long gone club called Luna Park in West Hollywood.


There's probably a good reason why you haven't seen Richard Jeni perform lately.....


From Wikipedia:

On March 10, 2007, Jeni was found by his girlfriend with an apparent self-inflicted handgun wound to the face,[9] in West Hollywood, California.[10] Police found him alive, but gravely injured when they arrived.[2] He was quickly transported to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, where he died.[11]Jeni was 49 years old. Suicide was suspected but was not officially confirmed by police.[11] His family later stated with certainty that the death was in fact a suicide, and that Jeni had recently been diagnosed with "severe clinical depression coupled with fits of psychotic paranoia."[12] Jeni's death was marked by many homages, including specials on XM Satellite Radio, Carlos Mencia's reference on Mind of Mencia, Turner Classic Movie Channel, and Bill Maher's HBO show, Real Time with Bill Maher (Season 5, Episode 5) being dedicated to Jeni's memory.

kroqken
11-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Oh shit, I forgot that Jeni died. Too bad. Another top comedian and my choice for best Italian American comedian is Dom Irrera, he is always on target during his act.

M Sparks
11-20-2008, 12:41 PM
There's probably a good reason why you haven't seen Richard Jeni perform lately.....


I keep forgetting subtle gallows humor doesn't work online...

kroqken
11-20-2008, 12:43 PM
Hell, I dedicate the rest of my posts in here to Richard Jeni. It is normal to find out about a celebrity's death way after it happened. I only recently found out that singer Shelby Starner died of an eating disorder.

TommyboyUNM
11-20-2008, 12:59 PM
I keep forgetting subtle gallows humor doesn't work online...


It would be gallows humor if Jeni had made fun of the fact that he offed himself. Anybody else making fun or light of him killing himself is more black comedy. And yes I had to look up "gallows humor". :)

kroqken
11-20-2008, 04:52 PM
Richard Jeni, rest in peace. At least Phyllis Diller is still alive. She was funny in "Boy Did I Dial a Wrong Number" with Bob Hope.

karecares
11-20-2008, 05:34 PM
Oh shit, I forgot that Jeni died. Too bad. Another top comedian and my choice for best Italian American comedian is Dom Irrera, he is always on target during his act.
Saw Dom last month, he was on. funny thing thing was we had a bunch of 16 year olds in the audience and he was amazed that kids were actually at a comedy show

kroqken
11-20-2008, 06:23 PM
Dom Irrera is very witty, and he does offensive material very well. He can get kind of ethnic in his material. He hosts the "Supreme Court of Comedy" on Direct TV where he plays a judge.

canexplain
11-20-2008, 07:16 PM
STFU.
no no no.
Mitch Hedberg has always been awesome.



i could list 21:
George Carlin
Richard Pryor
Steve Martin
Lenny Bruce
Bill Cosby
Mitch Hedberg
Rodney Dangerfield
Paul Mooney
Gilbert Gottfried
Denis Leary
Don Rickles
Bill Hicks
Norm MacDonald
Patton Oswalt
Lewis Black
Dennis Miller
Zach Galifianakis
Louis C.K.
Dave Attell
David Cross
Bernie Mac


i think this tour might have hurt Dave Attell and not helped him heheheh .... cr****


NMC reports: Nickelback joins Kid Rock, Cypress Hill and Ludacris in the second annual Coors Light Mountain Jam music festival. The day-long concert event takes place Saturday, August 14, at the Red Rocks Amphitheatre near Denver, Colorado. Also on the festival's bill are Our Lady Peace, Lil' Jon, Galactic, The Eastside Boyz, Molotov and more. Comedian Dave Attell hosts the Mountain Jam.

kroqken
11-20-2008, 08:20 PM
It has been mentioned on other threads, but a comedy sidestage would be cool for Coachella. I think they have had comedy in the Gobi Tent in the past.

canexplain
11-20-2008, 08:25 PM
It has been mentioned on other threads, but a comedy sidestage would be cool for Coachella. I think they have had comedy in the Gobi Tent in the past.

the one at the roo really seems to go over well .. i never wanted to wait in line (tent) so i never went but it makes for a nice change of pace from the music....cr****

gmoneyak
11-20-2008, 08:58 PM
A lil' late on this, but..

Chris Rock is vastly overrated.

Hell, I think Dave Chappelle's AND Patrice O'Neal are both more hilarious, especially when it comes to stand-up.

kroqken
11-20-2008, 09:09 PM
SNL > Mad TV (overall).

betao
11-20-2008, 09:32 PM
very true. Even the bad SNL episodes are usually better than a majority of MadTV ones.

kroqken
11-20-2008, 09:33 PM
Mad TV is nothing like Mad Magazine. I never got how Mad TV can have an Asian actor play John McCain.

kroqken
11-21-2008, 05:56 AM
Another funny comedian from back in the day was Rich Little. He was a master impressionist, although many of his impressions were of people who were big before my time.

M Sparks
11-21-2008, 09:03 AM
It would be gallows humor if Jeni had made fun of the fact that he offed himself. Anybody else making fun or light of him killing himself is more black comedy. And yes I had to look up "gallows humor". :)

I am impressed. I thought they were synonymous.

kroqken
11-21-2008, 10:37 AM
Bill Maher should get a sitcom, I would call it "Smugness from the Couch." I guess his talk show will do.

frozen pilgrim
11-21-2008, 11:10 AM
I'd love to have the comedians of comedy back

kroqken
11-21-2008, 01:47 PM
Does anyone like that white trash southern humor like Larry the Cable Guy and the "You Might be a redneck" dude? None of them are funny to me.

kroqken
11-23-2008, 11:02 PM
As mentioned in another thread, does anyone want to see a movie made about the life of Sam Kinison? That would be fascinating and I bet it would take an unknown to play him.

shotglass75
11-24-2008, 07:48 AM
I could see Paul Giamatti playing Kinison for some reason and doing a pretty good job of it. He was great as Tony Clifton. I mean they would need a good hair and makeup person but I think he could take a role like that and deliver

malcolmjamalawesome
11-24-2008, 08:06 AM
They've got some noname douche playing Kinison in the movie.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-24-2008, 08:07 AM
I like Doug Stanhope.

LooseAtTheZoo
11-24-2008, 01:55 PM
I could see Paul Giamatti playing Kinison for some reason and doing a pretty good job of it. He was great as Tony Clifton. I mean they would need a good hair and makeup person but I think he could take a role like that and deliver

Giamatti technically didn't play "Tony Clifton" in Man on the Moon. He was Bob Zmuda

MeowMixer
11-24-2008, 01:57 PM
Mitch Hedberg is the best evar.

RotationSlimWang
11-24-2008, 02:11 PM
I like Doug Stanhope.

See, now I don't like you anymore.

shotglass75
11-24-2008, 06:40 PM
Giamatti technically didn't play "Tony Clifton" in Man on the Moon. He was Bob Zmuda

Technically he played Bob Zmuda playing Tony Clifton. Cool. You are a douche for being so anal.

shotglass75
11-24-2008, 06:40 PM
I like Doug Stanhope.

I like malcomjamalawesome

LooseAtTheZoo
11-24-2008, 08:11 PM
Technically he played Bob Zmuda playing Tony Clifton. Cool. You are a douche for being so anal.

Just a stickler. Relax. Take a shot or something

shotglass75
11-25-2008, 05:23 AM
I was playing bud. No worries. Just having fun.

Any links to this Kinison movie?

shotglass75
11-25-2008, 05:26 AM
Nevermind
http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/11/18/dan-fogler-to-play-sam-kinison-in-hbo-biopic/

Dan Fogler to play Sam Kinison in HBO biopic

Posted Nov 18th 2008 6:04PM by Mike Moody
Filed under: Industry, Casting, Reality-Free
Dan Fogler will play Sam KinisonI might be in the minority here, but I actually like Dan Fogler.

I won't deny that the dude's earned the "Poor Man's Jack Black" title thanks to his roles in Good Luck Chuck and Balls of Fury, but I think he'll break out of that shell soon enough.

Fogler is slated to play Alfred Hitchcock in an upcoming Ewan McGregor thriller and, Variety reports, HBO just hired him to play Sam Kinison in Brother Sam, an upcoming TV biopic about the controversial stand-up comic.

Fogler will do his best Kinison interpretation for Tom Shadyc, director of (shudder) broad comedies like Ace Ventura: Pet Detective and Evan Almighty. Shadyc's involvement might not be a plus for this project, but there's still hope. The Brother Sam script was written by Shary Springer Berman and Robert Pulcini, writers of American Splendor, the great 2003 Harvey Pekar biopic. That movie was praised for two things -- it's inventive storytelling and Paul Giamatti's amazing lead performance. Of course, Berman and Pulcini directed American Splendor, but maybe Shadyc won't disappoint.

Austin Powers director Jay Roach, also known for broad comedies, did a great job with Recount, HBO's tense political drama about the 2000 U.S. presidential election. Maybe Shadyc will repeat that formula and deliver an awesome tribute to Kinison. Maybe.

Here is his screen test for the role

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karecares
11-25-2008, 04:42 PM
i like the screen test but i'll go youtube some real kinison to refresh my memory

LooseAtTheZoo
11-25-2008, 11:07 PM
Dan Fogler will be great. He's a fantastic stage actor as well (won a Tony for best featured actor for playing William Barfee in 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee). Youtube it.

kroqken
10-15-2009, 10:09 PM
At least Jeffrey Ross, the "roastmaster" has a new book. Anyone care?
Who did Jeffrey Ross pay to "Ghostwrite" the "book"?

fober
10-16-2009, 12:26 AM
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10-27-2009, 04:44 AM
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I had no idea Bill recorded music. Sounds good. It reminds me a bit of Neil Young and John Lennon.

Ardentbiscuit
12-30-2009, 07:10 PM
One of the greatest on stage comedy meltdowns in history...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Jzy97Uu7Y

yeahfontaine
12-30-2009, 07:25 PM
I'm not gonna say that he's the greatest comedian of all time, but he is and probably always will be my favorite. Saw him twice live and I have never, ever, ever laughed as hard for 90 straight minutes in my lifetime. He was such a sweet and kind human being and a funny motherfucker. Heroin sucks.

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zenidogx
12-30-2009, 07:43 PM
Pht7-QReItY

humanoid
12-30-2009, 07:58 PM
/\ was that funny?

Cheddar's Cousin
12-30-2009, 08:01 PM
WeaPKuiyPK0

juloxx
12-30-2009, 08:40 PM
I would say either Chappelle, Richard Pryor, or Eddie Murphy (As far as standup goes)

My favorite standup segment ever :)

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TallGuyCM
12-30-2009, 08:51 PM
I don't really care to read through this whole thread, but: George Carlin.

westcoastpirate
12-30-2009, 08:51 PM
Richard Pryor hands down is the best standup comedian ever.

Mickjagger00
01-03-2010, 07:32 PM
don rickles

kroqken
01-28-2010, 08:51 AM
Maybe Patton Oswalt should make the list.