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clumsy342
01-31-2011, 06:55 PM
Thank you to all who participated this year!
I'm glad that I could help bring about a tradition to the boards!
I love it here.

Honorable Mentions to:
guedita - concertgoer - ragepatton
dale gribble - citizenerased - tommyboy
tandemind - izgewd - cutterbutter
massivechemicalpunk - boourns
and the rest!



FINAL PREDICTIONS AS OF APRIL 10!!!


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...NOW HOW ABOUT THEM REAL SET TIMES!?!?

Have a great time everyone! And come back to check on our accuracy!
.. or lack thereof :)

mmblack
01-31-2011, 07:23 PM
SCISSOR SISTERS SAHARA SET = √+

goldfromla
01-31-2011, 07:28 PM
its a shame but i think you have the twelves in the right spot

CrimesceneCookie
01-31-2011, 07:31 PM
Shpongle's weak DJ set won't attract more than 100 or so. Gobi.

cutterbutter
01-31-2011, 07:37 PM
Right off the bat, I'd say switch BSS and Empire of the Sun. Billing for one, and then BSS would fit better at sunset, while Empire of the Sun would get more night time.

Kyliediscope
01-31-2011, 07:38 PM
I agree.

RAGER
01-31-2011, 07:41 PM
the top 1s that you put sound kind of "ethnic" i dont think people will go c them so l8 but who nos

Monklish2.0
01-31-2011, 07:46 PM
sahara sucks when you look at it this way... :(

RAGER
01-31-2011, 07:47 PM
what do i do if theirs 2 bands that play at the same time

thanks 4 the list but can u change some times

cutterbutter
01-31-2011, 07:49 PM
what do i do if theirs 2 bands that play at the same time

thanks 4 the list but can u change some times

Pick one and enjoy. You can do half sets, but you wont get as great of a spot, or the whole experience of the group IMO.

RAGER
01-31-2011, 07:49 PM
but since its a long time till coachela can they change the time

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 07:51 PM
oh my god.
Rager just became my favorite.

Weatherman
01-31-2011, 07:51 PM
I don't think Mariachi El Bronx will play Main. I think they'd fit more as a mid-day Outdoor band.

travelfan
01-31-2011, 07:52 PM
I really see Empire of the Sun playing at night.

mmblack
01-31-2011, 07:52 PM
its a shame but i think you have the twelves in the right spot

seriously.

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 07:53 PM
totally agree on Empire of the Sun.

but we agree that there's no way there gonna conflict/overlap with AC, right?
that was my first thought when anyway.

travelfan
01-31-2011, 07:56 PM
totally agree on Empire of the Sun.

but we agree that there's no way there gonna conflict/overlap with AC, right?
that was my first thought when anyway.

Somebody somewhere else had them going against Arcade Fire...don't know if that would make sense, but in that case I could potentially see shooting Erykah to Empire's spot, Empire take London Suede and London Suede take Erykah's...mehhh maybe that doesn't make sense either, but I can see Erykah at a sunset-y time and Empire at night.

cutterbutter
01-31-2011, 07:56 PM
totally agree on Empire of the Sun.

but we agree that there's no way there gonna conflict/overlap with AC, right?
that was my first thought when anyway.

Move empire to close the mojave? Maybe? After Arcade Fire. I'd like that personally.

travelfan
01-31-2011, 07:58 PM
Move empire to close the mojave? Maybe? After Arcade Fire. I'd like that personally.

Hmm in that case maybe simply switching Erykah Badu and Empire? I can really see Erykah in a chill, sunset outdoor setting more so than a tent. But who knows.

concertgoer
01-31-2011, 07:58 PM
I really hope that there is no Suede- Arcade Fire conflict :(

concertgoer
01-31-2011, 08:00 PM
Cults are billed way too high on the poster to open the gobi.

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 08:04 PM
wow. they are billed high.
but I mean, have you seen them? I saw some youtube videos and they have "noon in the Gobi" written all over them.

and they only have a 7" ?

concertgoer
01-31-2011, 08:16 PM
Haven't seen them but it just would be weird for a band billed that high to open a tent.

drowningmatt
01-31-2011, 08:20 PM
I really hope that there is no Suede- Arcade Fire conflict :(

Seriously. They are my top 2 of saturday.

Justin170
01-31-2011, 08:21 PM
The Sahara is so weak on Saturday...

Mucho Maas
01-31-2011, 08:23 PM
what do i do if theirs 2 bands that play at the same time

thanks 4 the list but can u change some times

this was adorable.
one of my favorite posts of the year.

edbangme
01-31-2011, 08:24 PM
I think Scissor Sisters will play the Outdoor

Sushov23
01-31-2011, 08:44 PM
The Kills, Gogol, Empire of the Sun, Jenny and Johnny, and the Swell Season are all wrong. The kills, and Swell Season will most likely be Outdoor, while Jenny and Johnny will play mojave or maybe Outdoor, Gogol will get Main stage again, and Empire of the Sun will play in the sahara.

PDXdev
01-31-2011, 08:59 PM
Perhaps an Empire of The Sun/One Day as a Lion switch? At first I was thinking that ODL might not be a big enough draw for the outdoor but c'mon; it's Zack de la Rocha.

travelfan
01-31-2011, 09:19 PM
If all is fair in the world then one would hope that The Twelves would play after Joachim Garraud, but who knows...the keytar legend does have higher billing...

goldfromla
01-31-2011, 09:35 PM
oh my god.
Rager just became my favorite.

i just lol'd lots

TickleMeElmo
01-31-2011, 09:43 PM
Empire of the Sun closes the Sahara and take Scissor Sisters out of the Sahara too. Bump up Cage The Elephant and Gogol takes their old spot. Animal Collective, Bright Eyes and Mumford & Sons all switch clockwise, so it's Bright Eyes>Mumford & Sons and AC on the Outdoor. One Day As A Lion seems like an Outdoor Theatre act too. Also feeling Elbow on the mainstage like around where Mariachi El Bronx is at.

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 09:50 PM
Empire of the Sun closes the Sahara and take Scissor Sisters out of the Sahara too. Bump up Cage The Elephant and Gogol takes their old spot. Animal Collective, Bright Eyes and Mumford & Sons all switch clockwise, so it's Bright Eyes>Mumford & Sons and AC on the Outdoor. One Day As A Lion seems like an Outdoor Theatre act too. Also feeling Elbow on the mainstage like around where Mariachi El Bronx is at.

Animal Collective is not playing the Outdoor dude.
And I really doubt Empire of the Sun will be in the Sahara, let alone close it.
(anyone feel free to chime in here)

rage patton
01-31-2011, 09:56 PM
Gogol will get Main stage again

This is 1000% wrong.

And Clumsy, I would bank pretty heavily on Empire of the Sun closing the Outdoor. Definately not Sahara. If not closing the outdoor though, then closing the mojave.

Also, I am would switch Mumford with Bright Eyes, and Big Audio Dynamite with Suede. I also do not see The Kills playing the Mojave again. And I am pretty sure One Day As A Lion will be a daytime Outdoor act. Mariachi El Bronx will probably be in the mojave.

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 10:01 PM
you guys think the Kills will be on the Outdoor?
I would LOVE this at night, but would be so, so saddened if it were earlier in the day.

rage patton
01-31-2011, 10:03 PM
The Kills are getting pretty widespread recognition now and they are only going to get bigger after their new album drops. I wouldn't doubt them being daytime outdoor or main.

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 10:08 PM
what about them closing the outdoor vs. AF?

London Suede (sunset) > BSS > Bright Eyes (b/t AC and AF) > The Kills

TickleMeElmo
01-31-2011, 10:08 PM
I would bank pretty heavily on Empire of the Sun closing the Outdoor.

Actually I could see this happening instead.

concertgoer
01-31-2011, 10:18 PM
what about them closing the outdoor vs. AF?

London Suede (sunset) > BSS > Bright Eyes (b/t AC and AF) > The Kills

I think this makes sense

WhyTheLongFace
01-31-2011, 10:20 PM
I say switch BSS and EOTS

rage patton
01-31-2011, 11:48 PM
I think Saturday will go something like this...

Mainstage:
The Kills: 6:30-7:20
Suede - 7:45-8:35
Bright Eyes 9:00-10:10
Animal Collective 19:35-10:35
Arcade Fire 11:00-?

With the Outdoor being

The New Pornos: 6:50-7:40
Broken Social Scene: 8:10-9:00
Big Audio Dynamite 9:25-10:15
Mumford & Sons 10:35-11:25
Empire of The Sun 11:55-?

cutterbutter
02-01-2011, 12:00 AM
I really like that rage patton. I might be a bit bias since it let's me see everyone I really want to watch, but it seems well put together.

rage patton
02-01-2011, 12:01 AM
Thanks. I think it looks pretty good. To be honest though, I do have one problem with that is and that I do not think Arcade Fire and Mumford and Sons will have a 25 minute overlap...

JelloPuddingChat
02-01-2011, 12:27 AM
Wouldn't Cage the Elephant play the main stage. I thought they were big with kroq?

clumsy342
02-01-2011, 12:32 AM
Thanks. I think it looks pretty good. To be honest though, I do have one problem with that is and that I do not think Arcade Fire and Mumford and Sons will have a 25 minute overlap...

i was just going to say that

Phantasma Del Mar
02-01-2011, 12:36 AM
Wouldn't Cage the Elephant play the main stage. I thought they were big with kroq?

Main or Outdoor guaranteed.

rage patton
02-01-2011, 12:37 AM
i was just going to say that

Aside from that though... I think it looks pretty accurate.

WhyTheLongFace
02-01-2011, 12:40 AM
Bright Eyes 9:00-10:10
Animal Collective 19:35-10:35
Arcade Fire 11:00-?


Huh?

Radiohead
02-01-2011, 01:03 AM
Unfortunately I think the Kills are bound to be on the Outdoor Theater, definitely at night.

Bumblebee
02-01-2011, 04:36 AM
Unfortunately I think the Kills are bound to be on the Outdoor Theater, definitely at night.

Allison did that last year with Jack.

magmazing
02-01-2011, 06:52 AM
Wow... that Mumford & Sons/Broken Social Scene/Swell Season/Gogol Bordello/Scissor Sisters conflict plus the Arcade Fire/Jenny and Johnny conflict would literally screw over half my Saturday. haha

crombrenner
02-01-2011, 07:08 AM
A One Day As A Lion/ Arcade Fire conflict would be straight up heartbreaking. I honestly think ODAL will be in the late afternoon at the outdoor. Zack is a huge draw.

summerkid
02-01-2011, 07:13 AM
Thanks. I think it looks pretty good. To be honest though, I do have one problem with that is and that I do not think Arcade Fire and Mumford and Sons will have a 25 minute overlap...

I was thinking the same thing. I could care less if they did, but I don't think that willl happen. This could be easily fixed by giving Arcade Fire an hour and a half set instead of 2 hrs. I've never known Arcade Fire to be a band that plays long sets, but that may have changed with the new album.

pachucasunrise
02-01-2011, 09:24 AM
I'm a little late on this thread but... where's Lil' B?

WhyTheLongFace
02-01-2011, 10:30 AM
I'm a little late on this thread but... where's Lil' B?

Pure Filth

braundiggity
02-01-2011, 11:31 AM
I think Saturday will go something like this...

Mainstage:
The Kills: 6:30-7:20
Suede - 7:45-8:35
Bright Eyes 9:00-10:10
Animal Collective 19:35-10:35
Arcade Fire 11:00-?

With the Outdoor being

The New Pornos: 6:50-7:40
Broken Social Scene: 8:10-9:00
Big Audio Dynamite 9:25-10:15
Mumford & Sons 10:35-11:25
Empire of The Sun 11:55-?


This works fairly well for me. I need to accept that I'm probably going to miss at least 2 or 3 out of Bright Eyes, BSS, Jenny and Johnny, Swell Season, and The Kills. Sigh.

::EDIT:: To emphasize, I'd be surprised if Arcade Fire go on before 11 (with the 1am curfew) and Kanye isn't on by 10:30 (with a midnight curfew).

HedNoiZe801
02-01-2011, 12:18 PM
I hope Shpongle & Empire of the Sun don't conflict. I must see both of them. I would also like to hope One Day as a Lion and Paul Van Dyk don't conflct.

rage patton
02-01-2011, 01:41 PM
Something to consider here. The best way to schedule Friday and Saturday this year, is based on the 2010 schedule, because that is the only schedule that goes till 1am. Also, keep in mind one of the reasons the curfew was extended, was to give headliners extra time, whether they needed it or not. Jay-Z was scheduled for 10:50 and Muse for 9:35. I think it is a safe assumption here that we cannot schedule Arcade Fire for any later than 11:00.

With that in mind, I have made a revised Saturday:

Mainstage:
Arcade Fire: 11:00-?
Animal Collective 9:10-10:10
Bright Eyes: 7:55-8:45
Suede: 6:40-7:30

Outdoor Theatre:
Empire of The Sun: 11:30-?
Mumford and Sons: 10:10-11:00
Big Audio Dynamite: 8:55-9:45
The Kills: 7:40-8:30
Broken Social Scene: 6:25-7:15

I think that looks about right.

guedita
02-01-2011, 01:45 PM
I really like what you've done with that, Josh. I would also like to request switching Cage the Elephant and the New Pornographers. 2 Canadian supergroups in a row on the Outdoor stage seems feasible, and Cage the Elephant seem to have a KROQ/radio fan base.

Mucho Maas
02-01-2011, 01:45 PM
With that in mind, I have made a revised Saturday:

Mainstage:
Arcade Fire: 11:00-?
Animal Collective 9:10-10:10
Bright Eyes: 7:55-8:45
Suede: 6:40-7:30

Outdoor Theatre:
Empire of The Sun: 11:30-?
Mumford and Sons: 10:10-11:00
Big Audio Dynamite: 8:55-9:45
The Kills: 7:40-8:30
Broken Social Scene: 6:25-7:15

I think that looks about right.

damn. that. is. ideal.

drowningmatt
02-01-2011, 01:48 PM
Mainstage:
Arcade Fire: 11:00-?
Animal Collective 9:10-10:10
Bright Eyes: 7:55-8:45
Suede: 6:40-7:30

Outdoor Theatre:
Empire of The Sun: 11:30-?
Mumford and Sons: 10:10-11:00
Big Audio Dynamite: 8:55-9:45
The Kills: 7:40-8:30
Broken Social Scene: 6:25-7:15


This would be awesome!

KickerConspiracy
02-01-2011, 01:50 PM
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God, I hope that's the schedule. In the mojave all day, then Suede.

rage patton
02-01-2011, 01:52 PM
I really like what you've done with that, Josh. I would also like to request switching Cage the Elephant and the New Pornographers. 2 Canadian supergroups in a row on the Outdoor stage seems feasible, and Cage the Elephant seem to have a KROQ/radio fan base.

Actually, I think The New Pornographers will be in a tent. Like in the Grizzly Bear/Beirut slot. Im thinking either Erykah Badu or One Day as A lion on the Outdoor before BSS. Cage the Elephant will probably be on the mainstage at some point.

guedita
02-01-2011, 01:56 PM
Hmm...the New Pornographers played the Outdoor at 5 in 2007. I guess it wouldn't make sense for them to be at the exact same time. They are at about the same level of popularity, though...I think.

Isn't Erykah too much of a diva NOT to be headlining a tent?

rage patton
02-01-2011, 02:17 PM
Yeah, I think the New Pornographers will end up in a tent because of where they played in 07. I don't think they will conflict with Arcade Fire though. Canada would most likely implode if that happened.

And I just really have a hard time seeing Erykah Badu in a tent. I really don't think neither her ego nor fro would fit inside.

cutterbutter
02-01-2011, 02:56 PM
Pretty much all of Canada is at Coachella this year with those mentioned and BSS. Coachella-eh?

rage patton
02-01-2011, 02:59 PM
Well, at least half of Canada will in attendance at Coachella this year. The other half will be playing hockey.

cutterbutter
02-01-2011, 03:00 PM
I think Rush should replace KoL.

And we need a hockey rink added to the campgrounds.

WhyTheLongFace
02-01-2011, 03:23 PM
Would Arcade Fire really need 50 mins to set up? I've never seen their live show so I don't know. (In relation to Rage's predictions). Or is so that Mumford & Sons goes unopposed? If that's the case I would switch Mumford & Bright Eyes.

cutterbutter
02-01-2011, 03:42 PM
http://www1.sk-static.com/images/media/img/col6/20101213-005212-762211.jpg

Decent size screen and lots of equipment. I view Mumford and Sons as an equivalent to MGMT last year, so I think the spot on the outdoor works for before the headliner starts. Same spot MGMT had between Faith No More and Muse.

But I'm also being selfish because I like the idea of watching BSS then going Bright Eyes > Animal Collective > Arcade Fire on the main stage.

dorkfish
02-01-2011, 03:43 PM
Empire of the Sun and Shpongle are both playing at night.

cutterbutter
02-01-2011, 03:45 PM
Empire of the Sun and Shpongle are both playing at night.

like

rage patton
02-01-2011, 03:48 PM
Would Arcade Fire really need 50 mins to set up? I've never seen their live show so I don't know. (In relation to Rage's predictions). Or is so that Mumford & Sons goes unopposed? If that's the case I would switch Mumford & Bright Eyes.

That is so Mumford doesn't conflict with Arcade Fire. And I am putting Mumford and Sons in the MGMT spot of 2010 because I think it makes sense.

MissingPerson
02-01-2011, 04:53 PM
Would Arcade Fire really need 50 mins to set up? I've never seen their live show so I don't know. (In relation to Rage's predictions).

I think - although I might be wrong, there was booze - that they took about 30 minutes to get set for Oxegen. The billboard screen takes a while to haul up, and they have an enormous highway-style floodlight that usually stands to the left of it (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atomicjeep/5259374592/), but it's mainly the many cranky instruments they have to get set up that takes the time.

Bomboclat
02-01-2011, 05:31 PM
Yelle would be a later act and certainly not in the Gobi, and Daedelus probably wont be in the Sahara.

My reasonings:

Yelle played the second to last slot in the Mojave in 08, and since then has grown. I dont see why they would put her in smaller tent and at an earlier time for her second appearance. If anything she'll either be given a slot in the earlier part of the day on the outdoor, or she'll be given around the same time in the Mojave.

As for Daedelus, he's certainly not large enough to play the Sahara, and definitely not large enough to play that late in the Sahara. Id guess he'd play late night in the Gobi, possibly even closing it out (think FlyLo's slot), or early evening in the Mojave.

Also, i'd put money on Erykah Badu being early evening on the Outdoor, or sunset on the main.

She's wayyyyy too big for a tent slot, imo.


Oh, and Gogol. Why would they put Gogol in the tents when in 08(?) he was on the outdoor?

clumsy342
02-01-2011, 05:38 PM
Gogol was on the Main in 08. and it sucked.
But! they closed the Mojave in 07 which remains as one of the best shows that year.
So, maybe they will be on the outdoor this time, but i think a lot of people want to see them back in the Mojave.

clumsy342
02-01-2011, 05:41 PM
rage, if you are right about The Kills on the Outdoor at 7:40..
I would be the happiest boy in my pants

Also, I still like the idea of Mumford on the Outdoor. and for the people who say "of course they can play the mainstage", I say to you:
if the outdoor is anything like it was last year, you won't have to worry about it being overcrowded.
Bright Eyes > AC > AF makes much more sense to me

Mucho Maas
02-01-2011, 09:07 PM
jesus... you're missing the point of having a single template + discussion

abbeyroad 04
02-01-2011, 09:19 PM
jesus... you're missing the point of having a single template + discussion

Sorry. It's gone now. Carry on.

garf13ld 5and3rs
02-01-2011, 11:17 PM
I agree with rage patton here, no way Erykah Badu plays in a tent. She seems destined for the outdoor theater. Also, Wire playing at 4:30 seems a little too early.

rasooli
02-01-2011, 11:45 PM
There is no way The Twelves will go on that early in the day, regardless of their placement on the lineup. They'll be going on after 5 pm imo.

Bwilliamson30
02-02-2011, 10:07 AM
I'm thinking Foals might have a later slot...
http://vimeo.com/16018050

JelloPuddingChat
02-02-2011, 10:15 AM
Couldn't Wire headline the Mojave or Outdoor. I see them in the same light as PiL last year. I may be wrong.

guedita
02-02-2011, 10:17 AM
I'm thinking Foals might have a later slot...
http://vimeo.com/16018050

Why? Because they played at night in a music venue? They are known for being an energetic live band but I don't see how posting a video of them performing is any sort of logical proof that they will play later in the day at a huge festival.

Mucho Maas
02-02-2011, 10:18 AM
Couldn't Wire headline the Mojave or Outdoor. I see them in the same light as PiL last year. I may be wrong.

based on how they're billed, it seems very unlikely.

JelloPuddingChat
02-02-2011, 10:21 AM
But there have been low billed bands that end up closing out certain tents. Usually its some experimental group though. Like Fantomas.

guedita
02-02-2011, 10:23 AM
But there have been low billed bands that end up closing out certain tents. Usually its some experimental group though. Like Fantomas.

This is true. I just want a more compelling reason as to why Foals deserve that slot. It's their first Coachella.

Mucho Maas
02-02-2011, 10:23 AM
to jello:

well, being that low, i guess closing the gobi might not be out of the question (like whitest boy alive 2010), but the outdoor ain't happening.

JelloPuddingChat
02-02-2011, 10:27 AM
I'm probably just pushing this issue because I'm pissed that they're billed so low ha ha. X played around 630 in 09. I guess they're the same kind of band.

abbeyroad 04
02-02-2011, 10:48 AM
Also feeling Elbow on the mainstage like around where Mariachi El Bronx is at.

This. ..and move Mariachi to the opening on the Main.

Bwilliamson30
02-02-2011, 11:46 AM
Why? Because they played at night in a music venue? They are known for being an energetic live band but I don't see how posting a video of them performing is any sort of logical proof that they will play later in the day at a huge festival.

Relax. I think they should have a later slot because they have a larger following than a few of the bands listed above them, to me an early day slot does not seem to fit. I liked the video and thought i would share it, it in no way was intended to be "logical proof" of anything.

guedita
02-02-2011, 11:51 AM
Relax. I think they should have a later slot because they have a larger following than a few of the bands listed above them, to me an early day slot does not seem to fit. I liked the video and thought i would share it, it in no way was intended to be "logical proof" of anything.

Well, this thread isn't the place to post videos that you like. There are plenty of other places to do that. We're trying to accurately predict a probable schedule here. So no one is going to take your suggestion seriously unless you include some sort of logical reasoning. Who do they have a larger following than?

Bwilliamson30
02-02-2011, 12:04 PM
Delta Spirit, Yelle, Fat Freddy's Drop, Electric Touch. Although I could see Yelle getting a later slot. http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/foals/chart-history/815865

seitron
02-02-2011, 12:16 PM
What is the deal with the Sahara? I can't really see how all of the suggestions about artists (Empire of the Sun, Daedelus, Scissor Sisters) not being in the sahara could possibly be true, even though I think that they should be. Even if we just remove Scissor Sisters (I definitely don't see them in the Sahara) and leave Daedelus, how do you guys think they would fill up the day with 10 slots?

I also think the twelves will be after joachim garraud but I don't really have any reasoning besides gut feeling. Totally wish they would play after chuckie too but I doubt that's likely. Other than that I think the order is right although I could see Fedde Le Grand > Shpongle instead.

rage patton
02-02-2011, 07:37 PM
Foals will be a daytime mojave/gobi act. Anyone who says otherwise is silly.

guedita
02-02-2011, 09:03 PM
Even if they really, really, like them? And know other people that really, really like them?

Bwilliamson30
02-02-2011, 09:21 PM
hah, i never said they would have a night time slot, but i do believe they will play later than clumsy has them listed

mojavemolester
02-02-2011, 10:18 PM
This had to have been the hardest night to schedule...

I hope the Felice Brothers don't play at 12 on the mainstage (they very well might) for the sheer fact that I don't want to get to the festival that early...2 - 245 in a tent would be awesome, but that's ONLY MY wishful thinking, not a suggestion. I saw them at The Troubadour and it was such a blast..with that in mind, the Gobi would be great for them as they thrive in the smaller setting.

mojavemolester
02-02-2011, 10:21 PM
I feel like such an asshole, because I realize these are fake set time predictions and you did a good job clumsy...but I have a couple questions and concerns.

I know a lot of people here have an extreme disdain for Mumford & Sons, but I like them...that being said, I really feel like having them billed on the second line is fucking the scheduling up...they really don't deserve to be there yet...i dunno, but...

Using this fake as proof...there is no way to avoid insane conflicts on saturday night. It's putting the hell in Coachella (lame I know). It seems like inevitable conflicts between any number of acts could potentially put a great weight on me on Saturday night. Arcade Fire v Sude or Empire or Van Dyk. Mumford vs Animal Collective vs. Fedde. Scissor Sisters v Broken Social Scene v Shongle and throw the Tallest Man in there...ARRGH!

You may call me a dreamer (or whatever harsher name you may think of) but I wish a couple of these names were switched with some of the bands on sunday. FUCK! Sigh.

garf13ld 5and3rs
02-03-2011, 09:44 AM
hah, i never said they would have a night time slot, but i do believe they will play later than clumsy has them listed

LOL, you must have really hurt his feelings, look at how worked up he is getting over this.

bobchella
02-03-2011, 12:17 PM
add pure filth already

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 02:47 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/5414636082_56be143527_b.jpg


I WILL GET THESE LOOKING IN-SHAPE SOON..
they don't really reflect what we've been talking about.
I didn't realize I had moved things around before I added PF. oops.

custard
02-03-2011, 02:54 PM
I agree with Elbow on the mainstage. And as much as I would like to see Mumford & Sons on main stage before AF, I have a feeling either they or Animal Collective will be closing the Outdoor.

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 02:56 PM
i also agree with Elbow on the main.
AC is most definitely playing the Main Stage.
I think the next update is going to be
Bright Eyes > AC > AF with Mumford on the Outdoor b/t AC and AF

braundiggity
02-03-2011, 03:12 PM
i also agree with Elbow on the main.
AC is most definitely playing the Main Stage.
I think the next update is going to be
Bright Eyes > AC > AF with Mumford on the Outdoor b/t AC and AF

Co-sign.

Weatherman
02-03-2011, 03:34 PM
That looks much better, and pretty realistic at the moment.

Donaldj
02-03-2011, 03:42 PM
There is no freaking way Andy C plays before Hype or Marky. Hype and Marky are good but Andy C is a legend.

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 04:28 PM
and he's probably not playing twice either.
i just noticed that.

dorkfish
02-03-2011, 11:11 PM
I'll just make note again that Shpongle will be performing at night.

IzGewd
02-04-2011, 08:38 AM
I think Suede should get a night slot. broken social scene > Suede

chickonmytip
02-04-2011, 10:51 AM
Scisssor Sisters played the outdoor back in 06 at a night slot.

guedita
02-04-2011, 10:51 AM
I'll just make note again that Shpongle will be performing at night.

In ze Sahara?

rage patton
02-04-2011, 10:57 AM
Clumsy, something about your current update looks all wrong. I really don't think The Kills will be in a tent again, and no way Gogol Bordello play that late again in the mojave. And Erykah Badu that early in the mojave? Basically, the mojave looks fucked up.

Edmontonian
02-04-2011, 10:59 AM
What is the deal with the Sahara? I can't really see how all of the suggestions about artists (Empire of the Sun, Daedelus, Scissor Sisters) not being in the sahara could possibly be true, even though I think that they should be. Even if we just remove Scissor Sisters (I definitely don't see them in the Sahara) and leave Daedelus, how do you guys think they would fill up the day with 10 slots?

I also think the twelves will be after joachim garraud but I don't really have any reasoning besides gut feeling. Totally wish they would play after chuckie too but I doubt that's likely. Other than that I think the order is right although I could see Fedde Le Grand > Shpongle instead.

DEFINITELY need to remove Scissor Sisters from the Sahara.

On top of that I could see them giving Paul Van Dyk at least a 1.5 hour set if not 2 hours. He played 1.5 hours in 2007. Trance god that he is, it would be appropriate. Steve Angello could also be given a longer set, though that is less likely.

Edmontonian
02-04-2011, 11:01 AM
Also Erykah Badu needs to be moved to either Outdoor Theatre or Main Stage, and Two Door Cinema Club will probably be in one of the tents (Gobi or Mojave) rather than outdoor theate. IMO.

weeklymix
02-04-2011, 11:08 AM
There's no way Suede will be that early... at least I hope not.

Elbow -> BSS -> Suede -> Big Audio Dynamite closing on the Outdoor Theatre.

Edit: If this winds up even remotely being the case you'll all know where to find me for 6 straight hours.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 11:13 AM
Zack, either Mumford and Sons or Bright Eyes will be in that mix somewhere. Most like Mumford and Sons. Also, Empire of the Sun will be closing the outdoor.

clumsy342
02-04-2011, 11:44 AM
Clumsy, something about your current update looks all wrong.

yeah, i know. sorry about that.
when I added the PF stage I didn't realize that I had fucked around with everything earlier. No way The Kills close the Mojave.
As a matter of fact, I wanted to use your mock-up with them on the Outdoor.
I'll update shit accordingly soon.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 11:47 AM
Haha, ok awesome. I will see if I can come up with mock mojave soon. To me, no one really stands out as a mojave closer on Saturday though...

EDIT: I changed my mind. Scissor Sisters. Scissor Sisters will close the mojave on Saturday. It just makes too much sense. Now... what to do with Erykah Badu.

rskapcat
02-04-2011, 12:46 PM
I would love for the Main Stage to go exactly as the current template says from 6 pm forward. Two must-sees, one very-much-want-to-see, and one certainly-wouldn't-mind-seeing-again. So of course it will look nothing like that, save Arcade Fire. I can't have nice things.

thestripe
02-04-2011, 12:46 PM
Erykah Badu will be on the outdoor.

concertgoer
02-04-2011, 01:04 PM
I highly doubt Arcade Fire is going to play for two hours
It is much more likely that they get a 90 minute set like Muse had last year

rage patton
02-04-2011, 01:09 PM
I highly doubt Arcade Fire is going to play for two hours
It is much more likely that they get a 90 minute set like Muse had last year

Paul Tollett stated one of the main reasons they got tjhe extended curfew was to give headliners ample time, so they don't have Prince/Cure/McCartney type scenario. Jay-Z was scheduled to start at 10:50 last year and he played about an hour an half. This gave people the chance to see some of either PIL, Fever Ray or Deadmau5 after Jay-Z ended, and it gave other the chance to leave a bit early and get a head start on the traffic. Of course Arcade Fire will not play for 2 hours. They will probably play 90 minutes. But if they schedule Arcade Fire for 11:30 and they have technical problems and go on 20 minutes late, then GV will face fines. So, in other words, it makes sense to schedule Arcade Fire for 11 and not 11:30.

clumsy342
02-04-2011, 01:09 PM
headliners don't always play til the very end, goer. check previous years' times.

concertgoer
02-04-2011, 01:18 PM
Good points
I stand corrected

rage patton
02-04-2011, 03:56 PM
Ok, so billing changed a bit on Saturday. Basically, Erykah Badu switched with Suede. I think this makes sense. As a result, here is a new schedule...

Mainstage:
Arcade Fire: 11:00-?
Animal Collective 9:10-10:10
Bright Eyes: 7:55-8:45
Erykah Badu: 6:40-7:30
Broken Social Scene: 5:25-6:15

Outdoor Theatre:
Empire of The Sun: 11:30-?
Mumford and Sons: 10:05-10:55
Big Audio Dynamite: 8:50-9:40
The Kills: 7:35-8:25
Suede: 6:20-7:10

I think this works quite well, especially considering the new billing. Also, this gets Erykah Badu out of a tent. As a replacement, I think The New Pornographers in the mojave would work.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 04:18 PM
I just had another idea... Suede closing the Mojave.

Anyone think they would put Suede against Arcade Fire?

rskapcat
02-04-2011, 04:19 PM
Oh joy. Choose between watching Mumford & Sons (one must-see) or getting a good spot with my friends for Arcade Fire (the other). Boo.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 04:23 PM
Oh joy. Choose between watching Mumford & Sons (one must-see) or getting a good spot with my friends for Arcade Fire (the other). Boo.

Haha. Sorry Becca! I just think it makes logical sense. If it makes you feel better, I would be getting a good spot for Arcade Fire. :)

rskapcat
02-04-2011, 04:29 PM
Oh, that's what I'll be doing. I'll just be sad having to make that choice.

guedita
02-04-2011, 05:20 PM
I think we need to look more closely at the clue dorkfish has given us about Shpongle. He keeps saying that it will be at night, and since the dude's set up is that bizarre Etienne like cube thing, I'm thinking this means he will be closing the Sahara. I know Swedish House Mafia said that Axwell/Angello are "closing out" the dance tent, but I don't think that is set in stone for Saturday. I also sort of think that the Sahara might only have 9 acts in it on Saturday. With really long set times for some of the names.

concertgoer
02-04-2011, 05:29 PM
I just had another idea... Suede closing the Mojave.

Anyone think they would put Suede against Arcade Fire?
I don't think they will conflict. I think Scissor Sisters are the most likely Mojave closer imo

rage patton
02-04-2011, 05:31 PM
I think we need to look more closely at the clue dorkfish has given us about Shpongle. He keeps saying that it will be at night, and since the dude's set up is that bizarre Etienne like cube thing, I'm thinking this means he will be closing the Sahara. I know Swedish House Mafia said that Axwell/Angello are "closing out" the dance tent, but I don't think that is set in stone for Saturday. I also sort of think that the Sahara might only have 9 acts in it on Saturday. With really long set times for some of the names.

Actually, I was thinking Shpongle will close the Gobi.


I don't think they will conflict. I think Scissor Sisters are the most likely Mojave closer imo

Perhaps Suede will go a little earlier in the mojave then?

Mordecai
02-04-2011, 05:32 PM
I think we need to look more closely at the clue dorkfish has given us about Shpongle. He keeps saying that it will be at night, and since the dude's set up is that bizarre Etienne like cube thing, I'm thinking this means he will be closing the Sahara. I know Swedish House Mafia said that Axwell/Angello are "closing out" the dance tent, but I don't think that is set in stone for Saturday. I also sort of think that the Sahara might only have 9 acts in it on Saturday. With really long set times for some of the names.

Or Simon doesn't play the Sahara. Which would make more sense than closing the Sahara.

*Edit: what Rage said

guedita
02-04-2011, 05:35 PM
Only reason I think it may be tough for Simon to close the Gobi is that the set up takes a while. If just DJs are playing before him a la Etienne, it's easier to just unveil the structure.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 06:30 PM
Its just a DJ set. If they gave Shpongle a half hour to set up, I am sure it would be more than enough. If anything, closing the Gobi is much more feasible than closing the Sahara.

guedita
02-04-2011, 06:33 PM
It's not just a DJ set. It's the Shpongle presents the Shpongletron Experience if you look at the Line-Up section of the mainpage. Which is this:

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rage patton
02-04-2011, 06:36 PM
Ahh. I see. Well, still, I don't see why that couldn't be set up in the Gobi.

guedita
02-04-2011, 07:28 PM
I did my own mock up schedule for Saturday with potential set times. I really think there will be only 9 in the Sahara. Assuming you all come around and agree with me that Shpongle will be in there, this is what I think it could look like: (Also...there may be adds to Saturday's Sahara line-up. I've heard Rusko may be added.)

Sahara
12:00 - 1:30: Joachim Garraud
1:30 - 2:45: The Twelves
2:45 - 4:00: Daedelus
4:00 - 5:15: Chuckie
5:15 - 6:45: Laidback Luke
6:45 - 8:00: Fedde Le Grand
8:00 - 9:30: Paul Van Dyk
9:30 - 11:10: Steve Angello
11:30 : Shpongle

I won't bother to put my other stages up here because they differ pretty wildly from Clumsy's.

clumsy342
02-04-2011, 07:40 PM
guedita, i dont understand the super long sets though. especially with such a packed schedule. thats why I included SS, as a guess. because they are the only other act i could see in the Sahara and there isn't room anywhere else for them.

so you think EE and Daedelus will be at PF? (i'd assume Daedelus would, but he wasnt on the list of PF acts, right?)

guedita
02-04-2011, 07:45 PM
Yeah, when I did my mock up schedule though I had 9 on the main, 10 on the outdoor, 11 in the Gobi and Mojave, and 9 in the Sahara. And it all fit.

I don't know anything about EE but I didn't think they were a Sahara act. And Daedelus will not be on the Pure Filth stage. Maybe on in the Gobi? I just don't really know with that one. I just emphatically feel like the Scissor Sisters will not be in the Sahara this year. I see them closing out the Mojave a la Devo last year.

DANCE MAGIC
02-04-2011, 08:10 PM
Ok, why can't Erykah Badu be earlier in the day on the Outdoor stage? Like in Raphael Saadiq's spot? Sunny Day Real Estate played pretty early in the day, didn't they? I just don't want her to conflict with Animal Collective, basically.

abbeyroad 04
02-04-2011, 08:19 PM
No way Suede is in a tent.

Don't up and coming hip-hop, soul, R&B groups usually play the Gobi if they aren't outside? Just seems to be that way from memory. I don't mean that's all that plays on that stage, but it seems like they are in there more often than in the Mojave. I think even Mariachi El Bronx could, but I still think they'll be Main openers. Foals need to go in the Mojave.

concertgoer
02-04-2011, 08:21 PM
Perhaps Suede will go a little earlier in the mojave then?[/QUOTE]
That would make sense
Maybe Suede would play in the mojave during mumford and sons set?

WhyTheLongFace
02-04-2011, 09:32 PM
(Also...there may be adds to Saturday's Sahara line-up. I've heard Rusko may be added.)


He's in Seattle.



Don't up and coming hip-hop, soul, R&B groups usually play the Gobi if they aren't outside?

Neither Badu or Saadiq are up and coming.

abbeyroad 04
02-04-2011, 09:36 PM
I wasn't referring to them. I was just asking a general question.

LickTheLizzard
02-04-2011, 09:48 PM
everyone seems to be saying Bright Eyes on the mainstage.... any chance we get an outdoor theater set?

rage patton
02-04-2011, 09:55 PM
Sure there is chance of it. Bright Eyes will be either mainstage or outdoor without question. I just really feel like he will be mainstage.

Sushov23
02-04-2011, 10:12 PM
Paul Tollett stated one of the main reasons they got tjhe extended curfew was to give headliners ample time, so they don't have Prince/Cure/McCartney type scenario. Jay-Z was scheduled to start at 10:50 last year and he played about an hour an half. This gave people the chance to see some of either PIL, Fever Ray or Deadmau5 after Jay-Z ended, and it gave other the chance to leave a bit early and get a head start on the traffic. Of course Arcade Fire will not play for 2 hours. They will probably play 90 minutes. But if they schedule Arcade Fire for 11:30 and they have technical problems and go on 20 minutes late, then GV will face fines. So, in other words, it makes sense to schedule Arcade Fire for 11 and not 11:30.

Actually Josh, Jay-Z played until 12:50 or so, he did almost play for two hours. I think he went on 10 minutes after his scheduled set time. Cause there was no time after his set to get to anything still playing.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 10:13 PM
Ok cool. But if Jay-Z was scheduled to go on at 11:30 and was 10 minutes late, GV would have been fined. My point still remains the same, the earliest any headliners will be scheduled is 11.

WhyTheLongFace
02-04-2011, 10:14 PM
God the Sahara sucks Saturday

Sushov23
02-04-2011, 10:17 PM
Ok cool. But if Jay-Z was scheduled to go on at 11:30 and was 10 minutes late, GV would have been fined. My point still remains the same, the earliest any headliners will be scheduled is 11.

Sorry I meant to follow up what I wrote with, I agree with Josh on this. How long did Arcade Fire play for during their October tour?

Also Josh I still stand by Gogol playing the main again, and if not then they'll play outdoor.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 10:20 PM
Also Josh I still stand by Gogol playing the main again, and if not then they'll play outdoor.

100% not the main. The reason they played the main in 08 was because ther 07 set was hyped so much and Gogol in general were hyped a lot. Gogol has lost a lot of the hype surrounding them since then, hence why they dropped down two full lines in billing since 08. Outdoor is possible, but so is the mojave.

Sushov23
02-04-2011, 10:31 PM
100% not the main. The reason they played the main in 08 was because ther 07 set was hyped so much and Gogol in general were hyped a lot. Gogol has lost a lot of the hype surrounding them since then, hence why they dropped down two full lines in billing since 08. Outdoor is possible, but so is the mojave.

I guess we'll find out in two months.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 10:34 PM
They will not play the main for the reason I stated about and if they play the outdoor, it would be at like, 3 or 4 in the afternoon.... I see a 6:00 or 7:00ish set in the mojave making much more sense. If they were billed higher, I would agree with you... but they are on the 5th line.

clumsy342
02-04-2011, 11:11 PM
shit is getting craaaaazzzyyy... i think you guys are going to like the next update.
making headway.. i think.

edit: i've been working on it for a few hours now..

concertgoer
02-05-2011, 12:58 AM
Props to Clumsy for all his hard work

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 01:56 AM
I could definitely be wrong...
but after looking at this, and with the recent change to Saturday on the poster.. I think there may be a Sahara add in our future.

hmm.. you know, "The Knife" would fit in that newly opened spot, haha.. (one can dream)
but seriously, if they did change things around on Saturday in order to add someone I'd bet it'll be a Sahara act. It would be easily possible.

citizenerased
02-05-2011, 09:28 AM
The OPs prediciton about Bright Eyes/Arcade Fire/BSS better be off.

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 12:25 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5292/5419651608_ed3952f883_b.jpg

Last update: 2/5 @ 1:15pm


updated..
(I got a little carried away and added times already, but it actually helps)

some things to point out:
- No Bright Eyes/Mumford/AC/AF overlap
- No EOTS/SS conflict
- Cults on the Outdoor accounts for their billing
- I just used the Sahara times from Friday last year, pretty much.
- Tallest Man closing the Gobi?? Wild guess.
- I realize New Pornos and Yelle are probably wrong
- Outdoor sunset is still debatable.. even though I would love it to go to the Kills, its possible that it might not.
- No AC/Shpongle conflict, I think this is probably a given.

What do you think?

guedita
02-05-2011, 12:34 PM
Switch Yelle with Foals.

heart cooks brain
02-05-2011, 12:42 PM
Erykah Badu vs Raphael Saadiq is just as goofy as it was at Lollapalooza last year

jsnake0123
02-05-2011, 12:46 PM
would switching Mumford and Sons & Animal Collective work?
just want to see what you guys think

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 12:51 PM
i didn't notice that. thanks.

I've also got this for the outdoor (goes in order of billing):
Mumford 10:20 - 11:10
The Kills 8:30 - 9:20
Erykah 7:15 - 8:05
BSS 6:00 - 6:50
Suede 4:45 - 5:35

concertgoer
02-05-2011, 12:52 PM
Arcade Fire vs Tallest Man would make me sad :(

heart cooks brain
02-05-2011, 12:55 PM
yeah, that's a bad conflict

concertgoer
02-05-2011, 12:56 PM
Great job with these Clumsy they seem very realistic

concertgoer
02-05-2011, 12:57 PM
yeah, that's a bad conflict
I mean I would see Arcade Fire but I really hope Tallest man is on earlier in the day

heart cooks brain
02-05-2011, 01:01 PM
I mean I would see Arcade Fire but I really hope Tallest man is on earlier in the day

i just don't think it makes much sense to have them conflict.

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 01:06 PM
suggestions?

concertgoer
02-05-2011, 01:12 PM
You could flip them with Fat Freddy's Drop or maybe Yelle?

jsnake0123
02-05-2011, 01:13 PM
hey can you post your last year set time predictions somewhere if you still have them?
i looked on the old thread but they wont show up anymore, just want to see how close we got last year

AAM!!!
02-05-2011, 01:13 PM
Scissor Sisters played vs. the headliner the last time they played, i would switch them and wire, or them and gogol.

Tandemind
02-05-2011, 01:14 PM
not close at all...

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 01:19 PM
not close at all...

oh shit! you're right..
well, back to square one I guess.

rage patton
02-05-2011, 01:38 PM
This schedule would be awful for me. Awful awful awful. Like, I would have nothing to see during the day and ALL of the acts I want to see would be conflicting. There is no way this is anywhere near right. And I don't say that because it doesn't work for me, but because it just doesn't look right. Here are my suggestions:

- Switch BSS with Big Audio Dynamite
- Put The New Pornographers in the Mojave and One Day As A Lion on the mainstage
- Switch Wire and Rapheal Saadiq (Wire WILL be in the day)
- Switch Foals and Phosphorescent
- Why do Mumford & Sons only have 45 minutes? Give them 50

I think this is a good way to start fixing some of the problems.

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 01:57 PM
who do we think will close the Mojave?
I thought One Day as a Lion was a pretty good call.

DANCE MAGIC
02-05-2011, 02:05 PM
suggestions?

my suggestion is that GV puts this shit in a little booklet and hands it out to everyone at coachella. pretty much perfect for me.

I also suggest that, if this is right, you go to the outdoor stage at like 6pm, because i'll be there smoking weed for like 3 hours.

edit: ok, maybe one suggestion: switch chuckie and the twelves. that way i can sleep in/hang out in camp until like 3 pm or so.

crombrenner
02-05-2011, 02:24 PM
I think it's highly unlikely that One Day as a Lion closes out the mojave. GV knows that they will be a huge draw because of Mr. De La Rocha, so they most likely will be on the main or the outdoor in the afternoon. Also, they only have one ep out so they probably will be happy to just play a 45 minute set.

megastar
02-05-2011, 02:34 PM
Maybe Yelle takes Wire's spot in the Mojave, either before or after Gogol Bordello (that's what they had in '08), and it wouldn't surprise me to see Wire closing the Gobi (they won't be a big draw, and they're an anti-conflict because they'll draw a particular type of crowd that won't care about the other closing acts). Then moving all of the Gobi down eliminates an Badu/Saadiq conflict. Don't know where to put Tallest Man though.

I know where I'd like to put Joachim Garraud but I won't say.

heart cooks brain
02-05-2011, 02:36 PM
suggestions?

maybe switch Tallest Man on Earth with Radio Dept.?

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 02:46 PM
you think Empire of the Sun might close the Mojave and BAD might close the Outdoor?

edit: yeah, and I'm thinking Radio Dept. in the Gobi and Tallest Man earlier in the Mojave.

megastar
02-05-2011, 02:55 PM
you think Empire of the Sun might close the Mojave and BAD might close the Outdoor?

I think either way is possible: BAD in either the PiL spot or Specials spot from Friday last year, but I think it's better the way you have it now.

Empire of the Sun would be a great Outdoor closer.

If it's not One Day as a Lion (like if they get the SSSC spot from last year before dark on the main), then The Kills would be a great Mojave closer.

If this is how Saturday ends up, I'll be happy (it's the only day of the weekend you will not find me in the Sahara from noon to midnight).

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 03:07 PM
I also don't have a problem with the Kills closing the Mojave.
But it is sort of unlikely seeing as how this is their third time at Coachella and they played the Mojave in 09 and 05. I doubt they would be on the Main because well, it's just the two of them and they wouldn't get a night slot. An outdoor spot, sunset or later is the best guess I think.

Daft Fro
02-05-2011, 03:28 PM
Erykah Badu vs Raphael Saadiq is just as goofy as it was at Lollapalooza last year

Wow. Yeah, that makes extremely little, to no sense.

Tandemind
02-05-2011, 04:23 PM
oh shit! you're right..
well, back to square one I guess.


Clumsy - of the three previous years of set time predictions, which day was the closest to the real thing?

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 04:32 PM
Friday of last year for sure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/clumsy342/Fridayworking.jpg?t=1296955913
actual times:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/slickx01/2010fri.jpg


although I'm pretty sure we ended up with Fever Ray closing the Mojave.. I don't have all the files anymore, so I'm not sure what we actually ended up with.

IzGewd
02-05-2011, 05:17 PM
I can't see Suede being a daytime set

concertgoer
02-05-2011, 06:08 PM
That was my thought but then Goldenvoice dropped them down on the poster so they might end up playing during the day.

sacleonard
02-05-2011, 07:56 PM
you think Empire of the Sun might close the Mojave and BAD might close the Outdoor?

edit: yeah, and I'm thinking Radio Dept. in the Gobi and Tallest Man earlier in the Mojave.

I like Tallest Man, but he seems geared for a late afternoon or late night in the Gobi. Outside of this board, I don't think he's big enough of a draw to play the Mojave (or either outdoor stage).

PointBlank
02-05-2011, 11:15 PM
An Erykah Badu/Raphael Saadiq conflict is blasphemous!

clumsy342
02-05-2011, 11:41 PM
enough with the Saadiq/Badu conflict.. its fixed.. done. got it.
and just want to throw this out there too..
Tallest man early outdoor? I could see it.

heart cooks brain
02-06-2011, 05:51 AM
What about switching Tallest Man and RadioDept, then switching Tallest Man and Cults.

So: Radio Dept. closing the Gobi, Tallest Man 2nd on the Outdoor, and Cults in the 5:40 slot in the Mojave

Damn I didn't realize Cults was billed that high.

sacleonard
02-06-2011, 07:40 AM
Tallest Man on the Outdoor = half empty
Tallest Man in the Gobi = full house.

Simple.

Fig Neutron
02-06-2011, 10:35 AM
Felice Brothers and Trampled by Turtles won't play at the same time. I'd imagine there audience(s) have quite a bit of overlap.

I don't know what stage makes sense, but Tallest Man on Earth at 3ish making Felice Brothers > Trampled by Turtles > Phosphorescent > Tallest Man on Earth would make a pretty sweet start of the day for the folkie set.

paulb
02-06-2011, 10:58 AM
Im still in shock, from the mock up set times....I wont be setting foot in the Sahara on Saturday...thats a 1st!

concertgoer
02-06-2011, 11:01 AM
Tallest Man on the Outdoor = half empty
Tallest Man in the Gobi = full house.

Simple.

A lot of sets on the Outdoor last year were half empty
Tallest Man would work great on the outdoor early in the day

guedita
02-06-2011, 11:16 AM
Felice Brothers and Trampled by Turtles won't play at the same time. I'd imagine there audience(s) have quite a bit of overlap.

I don't know what stage makes sense, but Tallest Man on Earth at 3ish making Felice Brothers > Trampled by Turtles > Phosphorescent > Tallest Man on Earth would make a pretty sweet start of the day for the folkie set.

Yeah, none of those acts should conflict if possible. I actually could see Phosphorescent and Tallest Man opening the Outdoor or the Gobi with Trampled by Turtles and Felice following.

hawkingvsreeve
02-06-2011, 11:32 AM
Im still in shock, from the mock up set times....I wont be setting foot in the Sahara on Saturday...thats a 1st!

Yeah, it is pretty weak.

rage patton
02-06-2011, 01:19 PM
who do we think will close the Mojave?
I thought One Day as a Lion was a pretty good call.

ODAAL will be either mainstage or Outdoor day time.


you think Empire of the Sun might close the Mojave and BAD might close the Outdoor?

edit: yeah, and I'm thinking Radio Dept. in the Gobi and Tallest Man earlier in the Mojave.

Radio Dept. closing the Gobi is a good call. Tallest Man on Earth will be outdoor theatre in the day. I am imagining him in the Owen Pallet slot.

As for Empire of Sun and BAD... if anything BAD would close the mojave and Empire of The Sun close the outdoor. Actually... that makes a lot of sense.

nbvcide
02-06-2011, 02:14 PM
daedelus is playing the gobi, jenny lewis is most certainly not.. conor oberst has played the outdoor like six times, not sure bright eyes would be main all of a sudden.. mumford doesnt strike me as an act that needs to be after dark.. i begrudgingly will go along with swell season and gogol being demoted to mojave..

nbvcide
02-06-2011, 02:16 PM
...and lose the main stage gap. saturday is the only day that doesnt need it.

clumsy342
02-06-2011, 02:28 PM
nbvcide, the only thing you said that i agree with is that Jenny and Johnny won't be in the Gobi.

manalive!
02-06-2011, 07:46 PM
if two door cinema club clashes with the twelves i will literally cry. THAT CANT HAPPEN

Kropladop
02-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Arcade Fire vs. EOTS vs. One Day As A Lion would suck ass. Paul, if your reading this, please don't let this happen!

grenade
02-06-2011, 10:12 PM
Im sure the Sahara will be goin till after midnight

MagneticField
02-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Animal Collective and Broken Social Scene shouldn't conflict because they draw a similar crowd. Also because I want to see both.

Tandemind
02-07-2011, 07:03 AM
http://www.realrufus.com/articles/econ/econ-img/bush-frustrated.jpg

This isn't the "What would be your ideal set time" thread. It's the set time prediction thread you donkeys.

rage patton
02-07-2011, 11:34 AM
I really wish Coachella would anounce which stages the artists are playing on ahead of time like Sasquatch.

hawkingvsreeve
02-07-2011, 12:06 PM
nbvcide, the only thing you said that i agree with is that Jenny and Johnny won't be in the Gobi.

Yeah. Good luck fitting those tits in that tent.

clumsy342
02-07-2011, 02:04 PM
I really wish Coachella would anounce which stages the artists are playing on ahead of time like Sasquatch.

fucking. seriously.
why is that so hard?

Bons222000
02-07-2011, 07:38 PM
I think it's highly unlikely that One Day as a Lion closes out the mojave. GV knows that they will be a huge draw because of Mr. De La Rocha, so they most likely will be on the main or the outdoor in the afternoon. Also, they only have one ep out so they probably will be happy to just play a 45 minute set.

Agreed. Personally I would be very pissed off if One Day as a Lion plays vs Arcade Fire. I think One Day as a Lion is an outdoor theater kind of thing around sunset, maybe main stage afternoon.

And yes, their one EP is fairly short, a 45 minute set, playing all the songs plus maybe one Rage song seems likely.

menikmati
02-07-2011, 07:45 PM
Really doubt they play any Rage songs. Plus, I could see them playing at night in the tent.

ethanriver7
02-07-2011, 07:56 PM
I really don't see Tallest Man on Earth playing so late, and during Arcade Fire. He has a pretty big fan base that seems to be GENERALLY around the same as Arcade Fire's fanbase. I see him more as a sun-set closer of the Gobi. Also not sure about Empire of the Sun playing during Arcade Fire. Otherwise very accurate :)

cutterbutter
02-07-2011, 08:01 PM
fucking. seriously.
why is that so hard?

It wouldn't be a socal festival if everything wasn't fashionably late.

Remember how last year we didn't get maps or anything until we got there. First time I saw it all was in the booklets.

Also, I agree that Tallest Man on Earth vs. Arcade Fire is a :nono

Gribbz
02-08-2011, 10:10 AM
Also, I agree that Tallest Man on Earth vs. Arcade Fire is a :nono

Yeah, thought that was rather odd.

nationocean
02-08-2011, 10:36 AM
saturday looks just... awful.

heart cooks brain
02-08-2011, 11:04 AM
I heard something about geting Jenny and Johnny out of the Gobi. Switch them with Thao with the Get Down Stay Down?

braundiggity
02-08-2011, 11:24 AM
I heard something about geting Jenny and Johnny out of the Gobi. Switch them with Thao with the Get Down Stay Down?

I would love that, but that seems like a bigger spot than Thao has earned. Maybe do this, then switch Thao and Raphael Saadiq to give him the night slot?

Also, the Mojave seems over-stuffed with acts who've played bigger stages. Swell Season and Scissor Sisters both played the outdoor last time they came, Gogol played the main. All three downgrading to a tent strikes me as unlikely. Gogol on the outdoor?

Riflesmile
02-08-2011, 12:05 PM
saturday looks just... awful.

It really does. Very Weak.

clumsy342
02-08-2011, 12:43 PM
After listening to Jenny and Johnny, and taking Jenny Lewis' past sets into consideration, i was thinking they might be a good early mainstage. yay? nay?

Tandemind
02-08-2011, 12:47 PM
Go ahead and give the Saturday schedule a massive shake-up. Seeing things from a different angle will help.

guedita
02-08-2011, 12:51 PM
After listening to Jenny and Johnny, and taking Jenny Lewis' past sets into consideration, i was thinking they might be a good early mainstage. yay? nay?

Yea. Cus they are radio friendly, too? Maybe early outdoor.

mojavemolester
02-08-2011, 01:00 PM
I did a mock up using most of clumsys times but with some changes. I thought this would be quicker than making all the suggestions I have.

Main
Arcade Fire 1115
Animal Collective 920 - 1020
Bright Eyes 740 - 830
Big Audio Dynamite 625 - 715
The New Pornographers 510 - 600
One Day As A Lion 355 - 445
Elbow 240 - 330
Freelance Whales 125 - 215
Trampled By Turtles 1210 - 100

Outdoor
Erykah Badu 1145
Mumford & Sons 1020 - 1110
Empire of the Sun 830 - 920
The London Suede 715 - 805
Broken Social Scene 600 - 650
Cage the Elephant 445 - 535
Gogol Bordello 330 - 420
Fat Freddy's Drop 215 - 305
Bomba Estereo 100 - 150

Gobi
Yelle 1210
Foals 1055 - 1145
Daedelus 940 - 1030
Raphael Saadiq 825 - 915
Delta Spirit 710 - 800
Marichi El Bronx 555 - 645
Thao & the Get Down Stay Down 440 - 530
The Felice Brothers 325 - 415
Francis & the Lights 215 - 300
The Love Language 110 - 150
Cults 1210 - 1250

Mojave
Wire 1155
Scissor Sisters 1040 - 1130
Jenny & Johnny 925 - 1015
The Kills 810 - 900
The Swell Season 655 - 745
The Radio Dept 540 - 630
The Tallest Man On Earth 425 - 515
The Joy Formidable 310 - 400
Phosphorescent 205 - 250
Here We Go Magic 100 - 145
The Henry Clay People 1200 - 1240

Sahara (?!?!)
Steve Angello 1130
Paul Van Dyk 950 - 1120
Fedde Le Grand 820 - 950
Shpongle 720 - 820
Chuckie 550 - 720
Laidback Luck 420 - 550
Joachim Garraud 300 - 420
The Twelves 200 - 300
EE 100 - 200

Tandemind
02-08-2011, 01:20 PM
Is there a precedent to explain why Scissor Sisters are where they are after they closed out the Outdoor the last time they played?

guedita
02-08-2011, 01:23 PM
They have dropped significantly in popularity since 2006.

Tandemind
02-08-2011, 01:29 PM
I'm not sure if this reinforces your point or not:

http://www.coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45476

rage patton
02-08-2011, 01:38 PM
Is there a precedent to explain why Scissor Sisters are where they are after they closed out the Outdoor the last time they played?

Usually when bands return to play Coachella, the typically do not play in the same slot, and more often than not, they do not return to the same stage. The Scissor Sisters will most likely play at night, but not on the Outdoor again. They wont play the mainstage at night (not big enough) or the gobi (too big). So, this leaves the mojave and sahara and, in my opinion, the Scissor Sisters will not be in the Sahara. So this leaves one. The mojave.

DANCE MAGIC
02-08-2011, 01:50 PM
Usually when bands return to play Coachella, the typically do not play in the same slot, and more often than not, they do not return to the same stage.

This isn't always the case. Hasn't Air played the outdoor twice? When I clicked on this, I was sure I'd be able to think of more examples, but now I can't.

rage patton
02-08-2011, 02:32 PM
This isn't always the case. Hasn't Air played the outdoor twice? When I clicked on this, I was sure I'd be able to think of more examples, but now I can't.

Usually. I said usually. Not always. Usually. After reviewing the set times... usually acts do not return to the same stage they played on last time. Some exception are like Muse - Mainstage in 04 and 2010. Kings of Leon -mainstage in 07 and 2011. The Kills - Mojave 2005 and 2009. These are just a couple. Sometimes acts go up a stage in size (Gogol Bordello - 2007 mojave, 2008 mainstage), sometimes acts go down in size (Animal Collective - 2006 outdoor, 2008 mojave). But usually when the return, they play a different stage than the stage they played the previous time.

Tandemind
02-08-2011, 02:38 PM
These 'stage' and 'timeslot' rules are not set in stone.

The rules can be broken if the primary scheduling philosophy is in jeopardy:

Avoid having two or more bands who appeal to the same demographic playing at the same time.

Only the needs/wants of the performers themselves can supersede the primary scheduling philosophy.

Saturday's scheduling difficulties arise from having so many bands from the same demographic who want/need to play at night.

mojavemolester
02-08-2011, 02:56 PM
These 'stage' and 'timeslot' rules are not set in stone.

The rules can be broken if the primary scheduling philosophy is in jeopardy:

Avoid having two or more bands who appeal to the same demographic playing at the same time.

Only the needs/wants of the performers themselves can supersede the primary scheduling philosophy.

Saturday's scheduling difficulties arise from having so many bands from the same demographic who want/need to play at night.

Well said.

mojavemolester
02-08-2011, 02:57 PM
If the Sahara is lacking in numbers, I could see Yelle on in midday (4-5) for a nice live set if they aren't planning lineup additions.

Tandemind
02-09-2011, 11:00 AM
If you replace Steve Angello with Swedish House Mafia, it looks a lot better. I think that would take Axwell out of the Sahara on Sunday though.

weeklymix
02-09-2011, 01:23 PM
Suede that early is just not going to happen. PiL wasn't a subhead but they closed out the Outdoor Stage after Vampire Weekend who was listed before them on the same line. I'm not saying Suede will close by any means, but they will not be on at 5.

weeklymix
02-09-2011, 01:25 PM
Also Erykah Badu hasn't become any more or less relevant since 2008 and she played late afternoon on the main stage at ACL. Seems like a good fit for her now.

WhyTheLongFace
02-09-2011, 02:23 PM
Also Erykah Badu hasn't become any more or less relevant since 2008 and she played late afternoon on the main stage at ACL. Seems like a good fit for her now.

Yes she has, in large part due to

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braundiggity
02-09-2011, 03:01 PM
I'd agree she's gotten bigger/more relevant, but I'd also agree that late afternoon on the mainstage seems reasonable.

rage patton
02-09-2011, 04:03 PM
Suede that early is just not going to happen. PiL wasn't a subhead but they closed out the Outdoor Stage after Vampire Weekend who was listed before them on the same line. I'm not saying Suede will close by any means, but they will not be on at 5.

I suggested them closing the mojave...

WhyTheLongFace
02-09-2011, 09:08 PM
I'd agree she's gotten bigger/more relevant, but I'd also agree that late afternoon on the mainstage seems reasonable.

That is reasonable. I guess I'm just being selfish preferring a 7-8PM Outdoor

goldfromla
02-09-2011, 09:29 PM
I did a mock up using most of clumsys times but with some changes. I thought this would be quicker than making all the suggestions I have.


Sahara (?!?!)
Steve Angello 1130
Paul Van Dyk 950 - 1120
Fedde Le Grand 820 - 950
Shpongle 720 - 820
Chuckie 550 - 720
Laidback Luck 420 - 550
Joachim Garraud 300 - 420
The Twelves 200 - 300
EE 100 - 200

switch laidback luke with chuckie that seems much more fitting for the sunset spot

dorkfish
02-10-2011, 08:39 AM
720-820 is not a night slot. switch Shpongle with Steve Angello.

guedita
02-10-2011, 08:47 AM
I don't know how Brad could get ANY CLEARER about Shpongle closing the Sahara. Which I pointed out like weeks ago.

Tandemind
02-10-2011, 09:10 AM
Weeks ago?

http://janconnair.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/gold_star.jpg

guedita
02-10-2011, 09:15 AM
6 days is practically an entire month on the internet. FACT.

rage patton
02-10-2011, 09:29 AM
Shpongle vs Arcade Fire makes a lot of sense. and will not be the least bit surpised if that happens... but I still cant see Shpongle closing the Sahara. The Gobi or Mojave makes much more sense to me.

clumsy342
02-10-2011, 09:51 AM
Shpongle closing the Sahara? what'd I miss?
(i know what their set up looks like.. but i missed anyone mentioning them closing)

guedita
02-10-2011, 09:53 AM
I think we need to look more closely at the clue dorkfish has given us about Shpongle. He keeps saying that it will be at night, and since the dude's set up is that bizarre Etienne like cube thing, I'm thinking this means he will be closing the Sahara. I know Swedish House Mafia said that Axwell/Angello are "closing out" the dance tent, but I don't think that is set in stone for Saturday. I also sort of think that the Sahara might only have 9 acts in it on Saturday. With really long set times for some of the names.

...

clumsy342
02-10-2011, 09:56 AM
ok. i do remember that.
and rage, I think Shpongle's music could fit the Mojave/Gobi, but no way they set up their stage show in either of those tents.

ShyGuy75
02-10-2011, 09:58 AM
tallest man on earth will play during the day

and

mumford and sons will be on the main before arcade fire