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clumsy342
01-31-2011, 06:55 PM
Thank you to all who participated this year!
I'm glad that I could help bring about a tradition to the boards!
I love it here.

Honorable Mentions to:
guedita - concertgoer - ragepatton
dale gribble - citizenerased - tommyboy
tandemind - izgewd - cutterbutter
massivechemicalpunk - boourns
and the rest!



FINAL PREDICTIONS AS OF APRIL 10!!!


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5142/5607671618_b0b4786e9b_b.jpg


...NOW HOW ABOUT THEM REAL SET TIMES!?!?

Have a great time everyone! And come back to check on our accuracy!
.. or lack thereof :)

summerkid
01-31-2011, 07:00 PM
Leftfield should be in the sahara I would switch them with the presets and then the presets with OFF!

I think what you have with the main stage and the outdoor theatre is the right idea. Nas and Damian during the Strokes seems like a no brainer and I agree with Wiz Khalifa on the main earlier in the day. Still not sure what to do with ratatat although you might have it right where you have them.

indietron
01-31-2011, 07:10 PM
Isn't the curfew 12 on Sunday? Or did that change?

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 07:15 PM
oh shit. i forgot about that.
well.. how the hell is that gonna happen? Look how many acts there are!
Main - 8
Outdoor - 10
Gobi - 11
Mojave - 11
Sahara - 11

your guess is as good as mine.

shotglass75
01-31-2011, 07:16 PM
Trentemoller is waaaaaaaaaaay too early. Presets wouldn't go from headliner to 7pm in 2 years time (although the poster does makes me wonder).

indietron
01-31-2011, 07:16 PM
Here's to hoping they moved Sunday's curfew back to 1!

Kyliediscope
01-31-2011, 07:21 PM
I think Leftfield will close the Sahara.

summerkid
01-31-2011, 07:22 PM
axwell says he's headlining the sahara so one would think he will close it although he may be talking about billing.

cutterbutter
01-31-2011, 07:30 PM
Kanye and The Strokes both get an hour and half?

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 07:31 PM
Trentemoller is waaaaaaaaaaay too early..
agreed. I really want to see him too. but I couldn't figure him into the Sahara in a way that made sense. Unless he closes the Sahara vs. Kanye.. which, I would be more than fine with.

Mucho Maas
01-31-2011, 07:32 PM
Kanye and The Strokes both get an hour and half?

co-headliners

mmblack
01-31-2011, 07:32 PM
perhaps joy orbison will be part of the PF area...

i'd maybe switch the presets and ratatat straight up.

switch pj and DFA.

swap trentemøller into leftfield's slot, then have leftfield closing out after axwell.

cutterbutter
01-31-2011, 07:34 PM
co-headliners

An assumption though that they will get the same amount of time.

I can totally see The Strokes getting the longer 70 minute set that MBV and Pavement have had in the past years, and them being completely fine with it. Knowing how they like their short sets anyways.

RAGER
01-31-2011, 07:43 PM
i dont no these bands maybe ill skip on sunday and go c the sites

cutterbutter
01-31-2011, 07:47 PM
i dont no these bands maybe ill skip on sunday and go c the sites

Do some research, get to know some new groups.

shotglass75
01-31-2011, 07:56 PM
agreed. I really want to see him too. but I couldn't figure him into the Sahara in a way that made sense. Unless he closes the Sahara vs. Kanye.. which, I would be more than fine with.

By the looks of his production it could possibly be on the outdoor

PDXdev
01-31-2011, 08:30 PM
I say move Ratatat down. I don't think(and hope) they will conflict with Kanye. Maybe put them where you have Nas and Marley, and then move them two between Chromeo and DFA. That way it would be Chromeo > Nas & Damian Marley > DFA > Ratatat > PJ Harvey.

Or it could even be Chromeo > Nas & Damian Marley > Ratatat > DFA > PJ Harvey.

I think either DFA or PJ must close the outdoor because they're both on the second line in the poster.

Bumblebee
01-31-2011, 08:34 PM
An assumption though that they will get the same amount of time.

I can totally see The Strokes getting the longer 70 minute set that MBV and Pavement have had in the past years, and them being completely fine with it. Knowing how they like their short sets anyways.

Will Strokes actually bother to play much more than an hour? They didn't when they had 3 albums and doing headlining shows 5 years ago.

Mucho Maas
01-31-2011, 08:34 PM
yeah, i could see dfa > pj at the outdoor, with dfa starting right after the strokes end at the main stage.

jmas7
01-31-2011, 08:41 PM
Will Strokes actually bother to play much more than an hour? They didn't when they had 3 albums and doing headlining shows 5 years ago.
Its hard to tell, theres the new album and everything, but I keep reading articles about tension between the band and Casablancas, so I guess we will just see how they end up. He even said the main reason they did Lollapalooza last year was for the money, heh. Oh well, I'll take what I can get to live out my jr high school dream, haha.

PDXdev
01-31-2011, 08:45 PM
yeah, i could see dfa > pj at the outdoor, with dfa starting right after the strokes end at the main stage.

Yeah that would totally work. It would make the most sense for DFA to start after The Strokes.

summerkid
01-31-2011, 09:03 PM
Nas and Damian Marley vs the Strokes makes too much sense to change it. Don't mess with that part. Also agree with the others about the Strokes I think they will get an hour and 10 minutes or so.

betao
01-31-2011, 09:32 PM
Leftfield and Sven Vath are both older names that I think would have a large fanbase; I don't see them conflicting. I don't know if its relevant enough for GV to care, but just a thought.

Leeartlee
01-31-2011, 09:48 PM
Trentemoller at 4.... I have extreme doubts on that one. It's obvious that GV/PT are stoked on that booking as it was the first video posted. If he plays any earlier than 7 I will be surprised.

Also, Leftfield are highly likely to play the Sahara as well, as others have said.

TickleMeElmo
01-31-2011, 09:52 PM
Switch DFA1979 & Ratatat. Leftfield of course goes into the Sahara with The Presets out. Have The National play between the headliners on the Outdoor and put Nas & Damian Marley in their spot. Switch Lightning Bolt and Fistful of Mercy too.

PDXdev
01-31-2011, 09:54 PM
Switch DFA1979 & Ratatat. Have The National play between the headliners on the Outdoor and put Nas & Damian Marley in their spot. .

This probably makes the most sense.

guedita
01-31-2011, 09:55 PM
Trentemoller at 4.... I have extreme doubts on that one. It's obvious that GV/PT are stoked on that booking as it was the first video posted. If he plays any earlier than 7 I will be surprised.

Also, Leftfield are highly likely to play the Sahara as well, as others have said.

Get ready to be surprised. GV posting Trentemoller as their first of what, 4 (and only 3 actually confirmed) videos does not mean he's getting a late night slot on an already packed Sahara day. They posted videos of bands that had little to no internet speculation about them playing at the festival. It has nothing to do with set times.

If he plays late at night, it won't be in the Sahara.

Leeartlee
01-31-2011, 10:01 PM
Ok, fuck the video. Let's just base it on the fact that Trentemoller will be a live act vs most of the DJ's of the day. It is possible he gets the Glitch Mob spot from last year. BUT! Unlike them, you can actually dance to Trentemoller.

Whatever the case, 4 seems a very unlikely spot for him. Just sayin'.

rage patton
01-31-2011, 10:01 PM
I know no one cares enough about them to say anything... but they won't schedule She Wants Revenge so late again. Last time they played, they conflicted with Daft Punk. I really do not think they will conflict with either The Strokes or Kanye.

Milky
01-31-2011, 10:41 PM
The Strokes won't play for 90 minutes. I went to their Melbourne gig 6 months ago, they played for 55 minutes (14 or 15 songs, no interaction). So they take out some of the dead weight in that set, add some new songs and BAM 60 minute set.

WhyTheLongFace
01-31-2011, 10:42 PM
I hate you Sunday conflicts

concertgoer
01-31-2011, 10:48 PM
I hate you Sunday conflicts

This X 100

WhyTheLongFace
01-31-2011, 10:49 PM
From 5-12 there's always 3 acts I want to see. So that means 12 acts I'm missing :(

JelloPuddingChat
01-31-2011, 11:41 PM
I didn't realize how many Sunday acts I wanted to see until this thread was made. Shit is stacked just like last year.

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 11:51 PM
what are your thoughts on:

Trentemoller in the Mojave & Leftfield in the Sahara?

PJ Harvey closing Outdoor against Kanye? or playing sunset before Duran Duran on the Main?

Duran Duran - def main stage, right? I'm thinking TCV spot from last year.

rage patton
01-31-2011, 11:54 PM
Duran could go on the outdoor inbetween The Strokes and Kanye...

clumsy342
01-31-2011, 11:56 PM
so you think National on the main around 7:45 ?

i'm just thinking who gets that sweet spot on the main? .. National or Duran Duran.

cutterbutter
01-31-2011, 11:57 PM
I think we just need to decide who will be closing the festival other then Kanya, and the rest will somewhat fall into place. What has little to no overlap with Kanya, that people would find as an appealing end to the weekend.

rage patton
01-31-2011, 11:58 PM
so you think National on the main around 7:45 ?

i'm just thinking who gets that sweet spot on the main? .. National or Duran Duran.

The National played the Outdoor last time they played and they have gotten pretty huge since then, I don't think The National on the main at 7:45 is out of the question.

clumsy342
02-01-2011, 12:01 AM
i know what you're saying cutter, but it is definitely easiest to figure out the last 4 or 5 acts on the main and outdoor. those are usually the most accurate anyway

JelloPuddingChat
02-01-2011, 12:03 AM
Is Joy Orbison not playing pure filth? It would be great to get them off and put Leftfield at Duck sauce's spot. Then just move everyone down.

Phantasma Del Mar
02-01-2011, 12:42 AM
I think we just need to decide who will be closing the festival other then Kanya, and the rest will somewhat fall into place. What has little to no overlap with Kanya, that people would find as an appealing end to the weekend.

I'm standing by DFA closing out a stage while Kanye plays. Kanye will probably be EVERYWHERE over the next year and a half anyway. That would put Lightning Bolt at an earlier time as well since there's no way they both go on at the same time. Am I crazy for thinking that Bloody Beetroots could end up closing the Sahara? They've gotten stupidly popular.

JelloPuddingChat
02-01-2011, 12:47 AM
Am I crazy for thinking that Bloody Beetroots could end up closing the Sahara? They've gotten stupidly popular.

I was thinking this too. Especially with the live set up.

WhyTheLongFace
02-01-2011, 12:49 AM
I can't imagine Wiz on that late on the main stage. I see him in the outdoor right before sunset or Mojave 8PM

Radiohead
02-01-2011, 12:53 AM
Are we really thinking that Kanye won't be on stage until 11 pm? In past years, wasn't the noise ordinance at midnight for Sunday?

WhyTheLongFace
02-01-2011, 12:55 AM
I think Clumsy thought it was 1 so I accept the next update for everything to be squeezed and Strokes having 60 minutes-30 minute break-Kanye 90 mins

manalive!
02-01-2011, 04:23 AM
The beetroots are popular but not Closing out Coachella Popular.
Axwell is one of the worlds biggest Dj's. he will for sure be ending it.

shotglass75
02-01-2011, 04:24 AM
Wait a sec... what about this 6th stage I have been reading about? Doesn't that throw a big wrench in all of this.

"The festival will add a small sixth stage near the Mojave and Sahara tents on the east side of the field for intimate types of music such as bass and drums, underground hip-hop and dubstep electronic music."

http://www.mydesert.com/article/20110127/LIFESTYLES010102/101270326/Coachella-Valley-Music-Arts-Festival-tickets-sell-out-record-time

IzGewd
02-01-2011, 06:25 AM
yup...we have to add the pure filth stage

guedita
02-01-2011, 06:27 AM
Wait a sec... what about this 6th stage I have been reading about? Doesn't that throw a big wrench in all of this.

"The festival will add a small sixth stage near the Mojave and Sahara tents on the east side of the field for intimate types of music such as bass and drums, underground hip-hop and dubstep electronic music."

http://www.mydesert.com/article/20110127/LIFESTYLES010102/101270326/Coachella-Valley-Music-Arts-Festival-tickets-sell-out-record-time

It doesn't throw a wrench in his predictions at all, because he's already omitted all of the confirmed Pure Filth stage acts.

summerkid
02-01-2011, 06:36 AM
I found this interesting although it may mean nothing. I was perusing Pj Harvey's facebook and saw that all her events were listed as 8-10:30 except Coachella which is listed as 9:30-12:30. Now obviously she's not playing past 12:00 nor is she getting that long of a set, but just some food for thought.

Hempey
02-01-2011, 06:42 AM
I actually wouldn't be shocked to see either leftfield or trentemoller close sahara.

IzGewd
02-01-2011, 06:48 AM
My bet is axwell or bloody beetroots close sahara. Leftfield can take orbitals spot or maybe play between headliners.

Hempey
02-01-2011, 06:55 AM
I could see axwell but I'd be very surprised if Bloody Beetroots did it. Wouldn't shock me to see them in mojave a la major lazer last year.

shotglass75
02-01-2011, 07:34 AM
It doesn't throw a wrench in his predictions at all, because he's already omitted all of the confirmed Pure Filth stage acts.

good work

hawkingvsreeve
02-01-2011, 09:48 AM
Jimmy Eat World will probably be on a couple hours after what you have posted.

LyricsForTheMind
02-01-2011, 09:56 AM
I think Duran Duran will close the Outdoor

mmblack
02-01-2011, 10:10 AM
I could see axwell but I'd be very surprised if Bloody Beetroots did it. Wouldn't shock me to see them in mojave a la major lazer last year.

yeah no. beetroots in '09 had the sahara packed the brim at 6PM. they'd be more likely to be on the outdoor than in the mojave.

303dubbin
02-01-2011, 10:12 AM
high contrast around 9-11 i'm thinking

HedNoiZe801
02-01-2011, 10:19 AM
I hope Phantogram & Trentemoller play later in the night and not so close in time. I want to catch all of both sets. But a sacrifice may have to happen.

braundiggity
02-01-2011, 11:14 AM
The National played the Outdoor last time they played and they have gotten pretty huge since then, I don't think The National on the main at 7:45 is out of the question.

Agreed -- if I had to guess, I'd put Duran Duran on the outdoor between Strokes and Kanye, with The National getting just-past-sunset slot on the main.

Also, Kanye has to be on by 10:30, no? Both A) because he's the main headliner, and B) because it'd surprise nobody if he's late. I'd guess The National from 7-8, The Strokes from 8:30-9:45, Kanye from 10:30-close.

The end of the Outdoor also seems pretty packed. Not sure the best solution, just saying.

Bwilliamson30
02-01-2011, 12:29 PM
i don't think there will be a phantogram, delorean overlap

The_blakeness
02-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Not liking the Delorean and Photagram conflict both electronic and dancy, similar crowd

The_blakeness
02-01-2011, 02:36 PM
haha posted before I saw your post... God I wish delorean was in the sahara!

nbvcide
02-01-2011, 04:14 PM
not sure where to start..

Sunday only goes til 12am, so Kanye getting an hour is odd. i think Duck Sauce being Mojave ala Major Lazer makes more sense than Leftfield, but that's just me. Death Crew '77 are playing the Outdoor from what i hear. i feel confident that trentemoller will be at night, in a smaller tent. switch Wiz and Neon. and fistful of mercy is kinda too much of a supergroup to be in the Gobi, imo.

clumsy342
02-01-2011, 04:47 PM
agreed on Delorean/Phantogram (again, i was mostly trying to get the right stages out of the way)

and tonight I'm going to try going with the 12am curfew and figure out if its even possible. it seems like they either need to drop a handful of acts this day, or maybe they are giving an unsettling amount of acts only like 30 min sets?
I don't know. you tell me.

Bomboclat
02-01-2011, 05:36 PM
Rye Rye on the main? Lolwut?

Id put money on her opening up the Sahara

stuporfly
02-02-2011, 03:08 AM
Duran could go on the outdoor inbetween The Strokes and Kanye...

This was my thought as well.

abbeyroad 04
02-02-2011, 10:39 AM
Although I would LOVE to see Plan B on the Main, I see him as a better fit in the Gobi right after Tinie Tempah. Hip/Hop soul flow would be better with those 2 back to back.

guedita
02-02-2011, 12:30 PM
I think it's possible that The Bloody Beetroots would be on the outdoor stage, like before DFA. Does a Bloody Beetroots>Ratatat>DFA seem likely to anyone else?

guedita
02-02-2011, 12:53 PM
Also, I think that Twin Shadow, Delorean, Phantogram, Best Coast, and Menomena (though not *as* much) all appeal to the same Pitchfork demographic. I wouldn't be surprised to see those bands in order in the Mohave a la Camera Obscura/Beach House/Gossip/Dirty Projectors from last year.

I also think that the Mojave may close out the night with Chromeo. With like, CSS and HEALTH before hand.

GuyInTucson
02-02-2011, 01:09 PM
Rye Rye on the main? Lolwut?

Id put money on her opening up the Sahara

Umm no...


haha posted before I saw your post... God I wish delorean was in the sahara!

...And no

Neither of these acts belong in the Sahara.

PDXdev
02-02-2011, 01:42 PM
I think it's possible that The Bloody Beetroots would be on the outdoor stage, like before DFA. Does a Bloody Beetroots>Ratatat>DFA seem likely to anyone else?

This would be interesting. I could see it happening. Where would PJ Harvey go then? Before the Strokes on the main?

Or after DFA on the outdoor?
You could maybe move Wiz to a tent and stick Chromeo on the main(probably after The National)

drewskeee
02-02-2011, 02:01 PM
Here We Go Magic is listed on the poster as a Saturday act, so that will free up a spot in the Mojave.

paulb
02-02-2011, 09:45 PM
All I can say is....there is NO way Trentemoller is playing in the day time, in the Sahara too.....he will be closing the Mojave or Outdoor I bet....

megastar
02-02-2011, 10:09 PM
I know most people have already suggested Leftfield should be in the Sahara, but here's somewhat of a confirmation: http://www.facebook.com/leftfield/posts/129712397095408

As far as they've been told: "Leftfield are coming to America! They will be playing the dance tent of the Coachellla Festival on 17 April!!"

guedita
02-02-2011, 10:16 PM
Excellent. Thanks for that, megastar.

Natelevmofuggaz
02-02-2011, 10:17 PM
I really hope Joy Orbison isn't that early... Maybe later in the day in the Gobi? Or even like a 4pm slot in the Sahara...

Leeartlee
02-03-2011, 08:55 AM
All I can say is....there is NO way Trentemoller is playing in the day time, in the Sahara too.....he will be closing the Mojave or Outdoor I bet....

I find the outdoor to be just as unlikely as him paying during sunup. I guess if there is no room for him to play at night in the Sahara, they will put him late in the Mojave.

heart cooks brain
02-03-2011, 08:59 AM
could he close the gobi? or is he billed too high for that?

rage patton
02-03-2011, 09:07 AM
I just listened to Duck Sauce. There is no way Duck Sauce is NOT going to be in the mojave. They will be a late night mojave act like Major Lazer/NASA.

Clumsy, all you really need to do is switch Leftfield and Duck Sauce.

guedita
02-03-2011, 10:03 AM
I disagree completely with you. Duck Sauce is just A-Trak and Armin Van Helden spinning disco tracks. It is completely Sahara. It's electro-disco-house. Major Lazer is a different beast, with weird live "performances" from those big bootied girls.

philabuster
02-03-2011, 10:22 AM
What happened to High Contrast?

GolfWang
02-03-2011, 10:26 AM
^^OMG PURE FILTH

Clumsy, why aren't you including the Pure Filth Stage? Not only would it save lots of time explaining missing acts to people, but it just seems weird to leave a whole stage off the predictions.

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 11:52 AM
The PF stage sounds an awful lot like the dome in 09. in fact, i wouldn't be surprised if it were a dome as opposed to a tent.
Aside from the fact that we don't have all the acts confirmed to play PF and we have nothing to base predictions on, it feels a lot like trying to predict the Do Lab schedule.

PF doesn't feel like a real stage.

KickerConspiracy
02-03-2011, 12:00 PM
typically, how often are the here suggestions incorporated and the projected lineup adjusted? Weekly? Monthly?

GolfWang
02-03-2011, 12:05 PM
The PF stage sounds an awful lot like the dome in 09.

PF doesn't feel like a real stage.

except it keeps being referred to as a "new stage" that will accommodate up to 15k people.


we have nothing to base predictions on


Billing?


it feels a lot like trying to predict the Do Lab schedule.


Do Lab and Dome artists were never on the poster.


Look, obviously it's up to you and you don't have to include them in your predictions. It just seems like you're not really getting the full picture when you leave out a stage with artists like High Contrast, Lil B etc. that I'm guessing a lot of people are interested in seeing.

Also, it's annoying when people keep coming in here asking where so-and-so on the poster is in the predictions.

edbangme
02-03-2011, 12:13 PM
I just listened to Duck Sauce. There is no way Duck Sauce is NOT going to be in the mojave. They will be a late night mojave act like Major Lazer/NASA.

Clumsy, all you really need to do is switch Leftfield and Duck Sauce.

There is no doubt in my mind that Duck Sauce will be in the Sahara

edbangme
02-03-2011, 12:15 PM
Rye Rye on the main? Lolwut?

Id put money on her opening up the Sahara

a la Uffie

bobchella
02-03-2011, 12:18 PM
add pure filth already or are you just too incompetent to take a first pass at it

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 12:20 PM
give me your predictions for Pure Filth.
and we'll see if anyone gives a fuck.

bobchella
02-03-2011, 12:24 PM
k i'll work on it

IlliniQ
02-03-2011, 12:28 PM
Sunday's lineup is very weak in the undercard...possibly weakest single day undercard since Sunday '08, think a lot of the bigger indie pitchfork acts you've got later at night.. Twin Shadow, Best Coast, Off, and Menomena especially will be counter programmed earlier in day so as not to conflict with the National, Duran Duran, PJ Harvey, Strokes, Kayne juggernaut that Paul Tollet knows will be absolutely dominating the evening for virtually every non-Sahara leaning guest.

My thinking is these other acts will be appearing on Main Stage or Mojave early in day ala Okkervil River at 2:35 2009 Sunday (great slot for Menomena), and A lot of smaller acts you've got early in day will actually end up filling the Gobi and Mojave Sunday evening like Whitest Boy Alive did against PIL, JAY Z, and Fever Ray last year...

No way the pre 6pm lineup is going to look anything like what you've got now...bigger names definitely need to be moved down.

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 12:59 PM
ok.. im working on adding Pure Filth right now.. but here are my thoughts on it..

will it end early as to not conflict with the top Sahara acts?
do we think any of the smaller Sahara acts will actually play Pure Filth instead? (as part of the "more TBA" part of the PF lineup) or are the TBA acts for PF going to be all new?

bobchella
02-03-2011, 01:07 PM
These are very interesting questions!! :)

TickleMeElmo
02-03-2011, 01:09 PM
I doubt it will end early. They have closing acts that will gather a pretty decent crowd and I assume the TBA will be new additions.

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 01:18 PM
These are very interesting questions!! :)

i think tedious is a better word.

mikebspeedracer
02-03-2011, 01:20 PM
oh shit. i forgot about that.
well.. how the hell is that gonna happen? Look how many acts there are!
Main - 8
Outdoor - 10
Gobi - 11
Mojave - 11
Sahara - 11

your guess is as good as mine.

what about the drum and bass tent they are adding this year. couldn't you move a few over there on each day? I thought that was the reason they have more artists this year than years past.

tral!
02-03-2011, 02:03 PM
the prospect of DFA1979 playing the outdoor makes me a bit sad. i understand they're probably too big for a tent but i think they would work a lot better in the mojave or gobi.

whats the possibility of them closing one of these tents opposite kanye?

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 02:09 PM
http://purefilthla.com/2011/01/25/pure-filth-coachella-lineup/
Artists confirmed to play on this Pure Filth stage include (in no particular order): Beardyman, Jakes, Breakage, 12th Planet, Mt. Kimbie, OFWGKTA, Kyle Hall, Andy C & G.Q, Lil’ B, DJ Hype, Mary Anne Hobbs, DJ Marky, DJ Kentaro, SBTRKT, Ras G, Alf Alpha, High Contrast, DJ Zinc, Kode 9, Ramadanman, Terror Danjah, Thunderball, Take, Roska, Lorn, Tokimonsta, Zed Bias and Goth-Trad with more TBA.

I'm just adding the pure filth stage in no particular order, and no particular times. i just listed the acts hour by hour. you guys can come up with whatever you think PF is going to be.. but personally, i would rather not waste time on it.

And those of you who think we should include PF on the predictions because there are PF acts listed on the poster, there are also quite a few NOT listed on the poster as well.
just saying.

TomServo
02-03-2011, 02:12 PM
The Strokes won't play for 90 minutes. I went to their Melbourne gig 6 months ago, they played for 55 minutes (14 or 15 songs, no interaction). So they take out some of the dead weight in that set, add some new songs and BAM 60 minute set.

Yeah, they were scheduled for 90 mins at Lollapalooza and played about 70, if that. Showed up late and left early... just what I want for my $300!

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 02:48 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5178/5414636028_1c403d17b8_b.jpg

...

mikebspeedracer
02-03-2011, 02:54 PM
http://purefilthla.com/2011/01/25/pure-filth-coachella-lineup/
Artists confirmed to play on this Pure Filth stage include (in no particular order): Beardyman, Jakes, Breakage, 12th Planet, Mt. Kimbie, OFWGKTA, Kyle Hall, Andy C & G.Q, Lil’ B, DJ Hype, Mary Anne Hobbs, DJ Marky, DJ Kentaro, SBTRKT, Ras G, Alf Alpha, High Contrast, DJ Zinc, Kode 9, Ramadanman, Terror Danjah, Thunderball, Take, Roska, Lorn, Tokimonsta, Zed Bias and Goth-Trad with more TBA.

I'm just adding the pure filth stage in no particular order, and no particular times. i just listed the acts hour by hour. you guys can come up with whatever you think PF is going to be.. but personally, i would rather not waste time on it.

And those of you who think we should include PF on the predictions because there are PF acts listed on the poster, there are also quite a few NOT listed on the poster as well.
just saying.

thanks, i thought it was missing something

custard
02-03-2011, 02:56 PM
maybe switch Best Coast and Chromeo? Other than that I think Sunday looks spot on! :)

Phantasma Del Mar
02-03-2011, 03:11 PM
No WAY that Lightning Bolt and DFA1979 go on at the same time.

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 03:14 PM
lol.. youre right.

pachucasunrise
02-03-2011, 10:05 PM
Kanye/DFA1979/CSS/Lightning Bolt/Leftfield/High Contrast is the single most retarded conflict I have heard of in my entire life.

Mucho Maas
02-03-2011, 10:19 PM
Kanye/DFA1979/CSS/Lightning Bolt/Leftfield/High Contrast is the single most retarded conflict I have heard of in my entire life.

it would really not be that much different than friday night last year

cutterbutter
02-03-2011, 10:36 PM
Anyone up for 1/6th sets with me?

iammrcandyman
02-03-2011, 10:50 PM
High Contrast closing out the weekend? I can only dream like a little girl dreams of her wedding.

mikebspeedracer
02-03-2011, 10:55 PM
lol.. youre right.

glad i could help

clumsy342
02-03-2011, 11:55 PM
JUST A REMINDER...
I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT THE PURE FILTH STAGE. IT'S ALL UP TO YOU.

If you guys want to project your dream lineup for the PF stage, go ahead. I'll update it accordingly. But I'm not going to waste my time taking set times and conflicts into consideration when it comes to PF. It is clearly just a bigger, better dome of 09.

and once again - Yes, there are PF acts on the lineup.. but there are also A LOT of PF acts omitted from the lineup. I only included PF to clear up any confusion, NOT to accurately and systematically predict its set times. Seriously, it's like trying to predict the Do Lab. We have no idea what they are going to do with it.
The best guess I have is that it will end early as to not conflict with the bigger Sahara acts. That's about it.
But if people start complaining about a Roska/PJ Harvey conflict (or what have you), I'm gonna lose my mind.

Let's just please focus on the task at hand.

Leeartlee
02-04-2011, 12:03 AM
Ok, two things. First, Clumsy is right. This pure filth thing is not the Sahara part 2. This prediction thing is hard enough as it is. If you guys come back from the polo fields this year and go "Whoa, that stage was totally not what I expected" than make those adjustments next year.

Secondly, and this is really what I came in here to say, how in the fuck does anyone think that Duck Sauce will be anywhere but the Sahara. You all know they played at fucking EDC for fucks sake, right?

DFrank
02-04-2011, 12:11 AM
Not that it's necessary, but i could see Kanye having no one opposing him on the outdoor. And DFA aint no Fleet Foxes, you would definitely hear it during any of Kanye's quiet spots.

As ridiculous as having Wiz Khalifa on the mainstage is, switch him with Chromeo.

heart cooks brain
02-04-2011, 06:20 AM
Yeah, they were scheduled for 90 mins at Lollapalooza and played about 70, if that. Showed up late and left early... just what I want for my $300!

Calm down TommyServe. Julian has been quoted as saying they didn't feel right about playing lovger without new material (they played for 55 minutes). it was a fuckin great show, and it was worth not watching gaga. He has also been quoted as saying they will extend their sets once the new record is finished (i believe it is). they will play 90 minutes.

Boourns
02-04-2011, 07:07 AM
Why are there acts going on until 1am on Sunday? That curfew is only for Friday and Saturday, according to the dox.

clumsy342
02-04-2011, 08:13 AM
i still need to change that, frank. and figure out how its even possible.
anyone have mock-up times for sunday with a 12am curfew?

guedita
02-04-2011, 08:15 AM
I do. I wrote them out. It will take me a while to type it up but I can do it today.

clumsy342
02-04-2011, 08:40 AM
sweet! please do!
you must have to start each stage at noon and end each stage at midnight, right?
with some short sets?

guedita
02-04-2011, 10:48 AM
Yes. I put some different bands on different stages than your original template, but here are the times and acts I guessed at:

Main Stage
1:00-1:45: Los Bunkers
2:10 - 2:55: Neon Trees
3:20 - 4:10: Wiz Khalifa
4:35 - 5:25: Nas & Damian Marley
5:50 - 6:40: PJ Harvey
7:00 - 8:00: The National
8:25 - 9:55: The Strokes
10:30: Kanye

Outdoor
12:15 - 12:55: Angus and Julia Stone
1:20 - 2:00: City and Colour
2:25 - 3:10: Jack's Mannequin
3:35 - 4:20: She Wants Revenge
4:45 - 5:30: Jimmy Eat World
5:55 - 6:45: Bloody Beetroots
7:10 - 8:00: Ratatat
8:25 - 9:15: DFA 1979
9:40 - 10:35: PJ Harvey (? FIX)
11:00 - Duran Duran

Gobi
12:05 - 12:45: New Pants
1:05 - 1:45: Gord Downing
2:10 - 2:50: Elie Goulding
3:15 - 4:00: Eliza Doolittle
4:25 - 5:10: Foster the People
5:35 - 6:25: Rye Rye
6:50 - 7:40: Plan B
8:05 - 8:55: Tinie Tempah
9:20 - 10:05: OFF!
10:05 - 10:50: Fistful of Mercy
11:10 - 12:00: Lightning Bolt

Mohave
12:00 - 12:40: Good Old War
1:00 - 1:40: Fun.
2:05 - 2:45: Twin Shadow
3:10 - 3:55: Delorean
4:20 - 5:05: Phantogram
5:30 - 6:15: Menomena
6:40 - 7:25: Best Coast
7:50 - 8:45: M.E.N.
9:05 - 9:55: CSS
10:20 - 11:00: HEALTH
11:20 - Chromeo

Sahara
12:00 - 12:55: Riva Starr
12:55 - 1:50: Joy Orbison
1:50 - 2:45: Caspa
2:45 - 3:40: Trentemoller
3:40 - 4:45: Green Velvet
4:45 - 5:45: Jack Beats
6:00 - 7:00: Duck Sauce
7:20 - 8:30: The Presets
8:55 - 9:55: Leftfield
10:00 - 11:00: Sven Vath
11:00 - Axwell

rage patton
02-04-2011, 10:50 AM
LOL at DFA 1979 vs. Lightning Bolt.

EDIT: Cara, those set times look pretty good. Except I do think OFF! is going to be an afternoon act. Also, its "Gord Downie." And it is spelled "Mojave." But that is just me being nitpicky.

EDIT 2: The Strokes don't need an hour and half and I really doubt Duran Duran will conflict with Kanye. Just noticed those two.

guedita
02-04-2011, 10:50 AM
Some things about the above: I listed PJ Harvey twice, and I couldn't figure out what band I was missing, so that needs to be fixed

-Trentemoller is bringing his LIVE act to San Francisco that Saturday night. This makes me think that he will be in the Mojave, not the Sahara as you originally had him.

- If you look at my Mojave acts, you'll see that it's pretty much the P4K friendly bands and someone dancey indie all day. I honestly think that stage or some stage will look like that on Sunday.

Leeartlee
02-04-2011, 10:51 AM
well at least Duck Sauce is in the right place ;)

Leeartlee
02-04-2011, 10:52 AM
Wait, where did you find a SF date for moller?

guedita
02-04-2011, 10:54 AM
Wait, where did you find a SF date for moller?

Dorkfish announced it in the SF thread.

JoshTheBoyd
02-04-2011, 12:12 PM
no way DFA79 and Lightning Bolt will conflict... same with ratatat and beetroots. switch ratatat with she wants revenge methinks and death from above with fistful of mercy

PassiveTheory
02-04-2011, 12:15 PM
I don't understand why Lightning Bolt was at night to begin with. I can see them easily playing early on in the Gobi.

DANCE MAGIC
02-04-2011, 12:30 PM
the latest prediction means no kanye west for me. :(

heart cooks brain
02-04-2011, 12:33 PM
the latest prediction means no kanye west for me. :)

fixed

mmblack
02-04-2011, 01:40 PM
DFA > Leftfield > High Contrast!!! Worst conflict ... ever? Three inordinately rare acts with similar fan bases all on to close out the fest? I think GV will work that out a bit better. I'm just resigning to the fact that Sunday is going to be that saddest, most awesome day ever.

braundiggity
02-04-2011, 02:11 PM
I mentioned this in the Saturday thread, but all of the headliners last year had at least 50 minutes to set up. For Guedita's schedule, that'd be a simple fix (start things at noon, spread out everything before Kanye). Aside from that, this generally works for me. I'd love Chromeo/Menomena/Ratatat/Best Coast to be earlier, but beggars can't be choosers.

IzGewd
02-04-2011, 02:11 PM
Fistful of mercy is a supergroup...kinda. I can see them closing the mojave. I can also see Caspa closing the pure filth stage

guedita
02-04-2011, 02:15 PM
Caspa will not be on the Pure Filth stage. Sam, the guy in charge of and running the Pure Filth stage has already confirmed to us what acts will be on the Pure Filth stage.

WhyTheLongFace
02-04-2011, 02:20 PM
I'm sorry I'm not buying Wiz Khalifa on the Main or outdoor past 5. Either a 3 or 4PM set on those stages or somewhere in a tent

abbeyroad 04
02-04-2011, 08:29 PM
DFA OVER Duran Duran!? Over my dead body. OK, not really, but I think it's safe to say if they play the outdoor, they'll (DD) have the top spot. I still think they'll be 3rd from top on the Main.

Oh, and for God's sake please put OFF! outdoors. Too much chaos for a small packed tent.

rage patton
02-04-2011, 09:44 PM
DFA OVER Duran Duran!? Over my dead body. OK, not really, but I think it's safe to say if they play the outdoor, they'll (DD) have the top spot. I still think they'll be 3rd from top on the Main.

Oh, and for God's sake please put OFF! outdoors. Too much chaos for a small packed tent.

You have some fucked up logic dude. DFA 1979 will not be on the mainstage and the reason OFF! will be in a tent is BECAUSE of how chaotic their set will be. If it is outside, the crowd wont even have half the energy. OFF! will be mid-afternoon Mojave just liked Fucked Up in 09.

abbeyroad 04
02-05-2011, 07:47 AM
You have some fucked up logic dude. DFA 1979 will not be on the mainstage and the reason OFF! will be in a tent is BECAUSE of how chaotic their set will be. If it is outside, the crowd wont even have half the energy. OFF! will be mid-afternoon Mojave just liked Fucked Up in 09.

I meant Duran Duran would be main stage, not DFA. Also I want to see OFF!, but not worry about getting beat up while doing so, thus some space would be nice. Doesn't mean I think they will, I am just hoping.

rage patton
02-05-2011, 01:41 PM
I meant Duran Duran would be main stage, not DFA. Also I want to see OFF!, but not worry about getting beat up while doing so, thus some space would be nice. Doesn't mean I think they will, I am just hoping.

The part about OFF! still doesn't make any sense. Even if they played the Gobi, it wouldn't be full. If they played the mojave it would probably be half full. Having it on the outdoor would mean an extremely dead crowd... having in a tent would mean having a chaotic and energetic crowd.

InF3cT10uZ
02-05-2011, 03:04 PM
Conflicted as fuck...

nbvcide
02-06-2011, 02:30 PM
u could prob fit them all in before midnite if this was structured right. set are 50min, with 10min set changes. look at ur main and outdoor, especially early. u have wiz khalifa playing like an hour and a half..if u placed one act an hour they would all fit easy. oh, and the strokes will not play over an hour. find me any show they ever have. i saw them at a fest at their peak, they played about 35min of their hour slot..recent shows have been under an hour as well.

heart cooks brain
02-06-2011, 03:07 PM
The Strokes. Have stated. Once the album. Was finished. They would. Play longer. Than an hour. Fucking christ. I've seriously said this 30 times.

clumsy342
02-06-2011, 03:16 PM
u have wiz khalifa playing like an hour and a half..

yes. clearly, I gave Wiz Khalifa a 90 minute set.
seriously, when there aren't times listed, why do people make up their own times in their head then tell me I'm wrong?

and 10 minute set change? The only time it's NOT 25 minutes between acts is in the Sahara, before headliners, and really early in the day (which is usually still 20)

rage patton
02-06-2011, 03:20 PM
I almost feel like Sunday is a lost cause at this point, and we should focus on Friday and Saturday for now... then come back to Sunday later.

MagneticField
02-06-2011, 07:30 PM
Don't think I'll be leaving the main stage from 7pm onwards.

nbvcide
02-07-2011, 05:09 PM
really clumsy, really? well if ur not going to take this seriously, and do the research, why bother? 25min set change? maybe before the headliner..before every act? thats retarded, no wonder u cant make them all fit.. ill stick with the realistic set time predictions daftfro has been posting for weeks in the fb chella page..

clumsy342
02-07-2011, 05:50 PM
jesus dude. are you that bad at math?

http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=892185&postcount=1

fucking look at the set times.
and show me one 10 minute set change that's NOT in the Sahara.
and please, stick with those facebook times.

Monklish2.0
02-07-2011, 07:37 PM
yeah dude look at last year nbvcide...

menikmati
02-07-2011, 07:40 PM
nbvcide is a moron, let's move on

ethanriver7
02-08-2011, 05:21 PM
I don't really see DFA 1979 and Kanye playing at the same time. Both are very big acts, and I kinda just don't really see it happening

Leeartlee
02-09-2011, 09:45 AM
I don't really see DFA 1979 and Kanye playing at the same time. Both are very big acts, and I kinda just don't really see it happening

Oh yeah, Coachella never has big acts playing at the same time...

ethanriver7
02-09-2011, 02:26 PM
Oh yeah, Coachella never has big acts playing at the same time...

Not what I meant. I just mean like they're two big "must-see" acts for a lot of people and I feel that Coachella know that.

Tandemind
02-10-2011, 07:24 AM
It would really surprise me to learn that the majority of people who have Kanye on their must-see list also feel the same way about DFA1979.

It seems to me like these two acts work perfectly competing against each other as they are scheduled now. The only wrinkle I could see is Kanye's ego being too big to have any band playing on the Outdoor at all while he's on.

guedita
02-10-2011, 07:55 AM
There are just too many acts for Kanye to go unopposed. There will have to be at least some cross over with an act on the outdoor during his set.

GolfWang
02-10-2011, 08:03 AM
The only wrinkle I could see is Kanye's ego being too big to have any band playing on the Outdoor at all while he's on.

Like how Kanye's ego was too big to share headliner status with The Strokes on sunday? :rolleyes


Edit: What about Jimmy Eat World closing the Outdoor?

heart cooks brain
02-10-2011, 08:19 AM
Kanye vs Jimmy Eat world is mainstream vs mainstream. Jimmy Eat World should be on the main stage at lie, 6.

Gribbz
02-10-2011, 08:25 AM
So, DFA during Kanye? Awesome.

summerkid
02-10-2011, 08:53 AM
You have some fucked up logic dude. DFA 1979 will not be on the mainstage.

You keep saying this, but they are playing the main stage at Sasquatch and are probably playing right before the Foo Fighters.

Gribbz
02-10-2011, 08:54 AM
Two completely different festivals.

summerkid
02-10-2011, 09:01 AM
Two completely different festivals.

Still. The argument is that the main stage is too large for them to play and that they need a more intimate setting. I don't believe Sasauatch's stage is much smaller and a lot of people are on a hill overlooking it.

guedita
02-10-2011, 09:02 AM
Yeah, but Canadians.

summerkid
02-10-2011, 09:19 AM
Wiz Khalifa is way too late. I think he'll play the main stage, but probably before 6. Kanye didn't even go on after 6 in 2006 and he had two albums and 5 or 6 hits by that time. I think he'll get a similar spot as the Roots in 2007 or maybe even De la Soul last year.

rage patton
02-10-2011, 09:27 AM
You keep saying this, but they are playing the main stage at Sasquatch and are probably playing right before the Foo Fighters.


Two completely different festivals.


Still. The argument is that the main stage is too large for them to play and that they need a more intimate setting. I don't believe Sasauatch's stage is much smaller and a lot of people are on a hill overlooking it.

Have you ever been to Sasquatch? As Gribbz said, two completely different festivals. Also, they are playing at night at Sasquatch... if they were playing right before Kanye... maybe I could see DFA 1979 on the mainstage. But that is not happening, so it is not worth discussing. DFA 1979 will be at night on either the outdoor or mojave.


Yeah, but Canadians.

Oh, and this.

braundiggity
02-10-2011, 11:05 AM
Wiz Khalifa is way too late. I think he'll play the main stage, but probably before 6. Kanye didn't even go on after 6 in 2006 and he had two albums and 5 or 6 hits by that time. I think he'll get a similar spot as the Roots in 2007 or maybe even De la Soul last year.

You can't really use Kanye in '06 as a point of comparison - he was added three days before the fest, and clearly squeezed in (he was given literally no set up time after Common). Common, in fact, would be a better example -- more albums, more hits, had just released what I think was his most commercial album (Go), yet still went on at 4:45. In '07, Lupe Fiasco (better comparison for Wiz) went on at 1:45.

I'd be surprised to see Wiz after 4.

summerkid
02-10-2011, 11:23 AM
You are right about the Kanye/Common thing and I would think Wiz will get a similar spot as Common had. I also agree with you about Lupe, kind of. Lupe in 2007 didn't have the kind of billing that Wiz has this year. Lupe had higher billing than Wiz in 2009 and went on at 3:45 at the main stage. So Wiz around 4 on the main stage seems right to me.

clumsy342
02-10-2011, 12:37 PM
Wiz shall be earlier..

right now im focusing on Friday.. we'll get to Sunday soonish

iammrcandyman
02-10-2011, 02:47 PM
Switching Sven Vaath and Axwell would give the Sahara better crowd flow.

Duck Sauce -> BB Roots -> Axwell -(people leave for kanye)-> Sven Vaath -> Leftfield

betao
02-10-2011, 03:12 PM
Switching Sven Vaath and Axwell would give the Sahara better crowd flow.

Duck Sauce -> BB Roots -> Axwell -(people leave for kanye)-> Sven Vaath -> Leftfield

this would be so fucking awesome.

Bumblebee
02-11-2011, 09:55 AM
The Strokes. Have stated. Once the album. Was finished. They would. Play longer. Than an hour. Fucking christ. I've seriously said this 30 times.

Has Julian ever played a show longer than 65-70 minutes despite having released 5 albums? Group and/or solo.

guedita
02-11-2011, 10:29 AM
What time last year did we start hearing from artists as to what stage/time they'd be on?

rage patton
02-11-2011, 11:04 AM
I think last year we did hear from a few in Feb/March. Most confirmations we got though were in April. Next week I was thinking of contacting a few artists. Mumford & Sons and Bright Eyes to name a couple. If we could somehow find out which stage DFA 1979 were playing, I think it would make thing quite a bit easier for Sunday.

Bumblebee
02-12-2011, 01:57 AM
Playing armchair for second, I'd be tempted to put Duran against Kanye. Duran can be seen elsewhere, but DFA and Kanye are both potential career turning point gigs. Kanye has to make amends after being box office poison on the cancelled Gaga tour.

I'm actually wanting to see DFA, Duran and Kanye but I know conflicts are inevitable along with Strokes and National. My friends are the same. I still think Kanye will have some notable guests.

LyricsForTheMind
02-12-2011, 09:20 AM
Yeah......this is potential career turning for kanye....

concertgoer
02-12-2011, 09:27 AM
Duran Duran and Kanye won't conflict
The 1 and 3 almost never conflict

mmblack
02-15-2011, 03:19 PM
yeah but that's a pretty solid contrast in the audience, no? normally the 1 isn't one of the premiere rap artists in the world.

edit: example last year 1 vs 4. jay-z vs. vampire weekend. not 1 vs. 3 but similar concept kind of?

clumsy342
02-15-2011, 03:33 PM
are you calling the 5 minute overlap between VW and Jay-Z a conflict?
PiL conflicted with Jay-Z, not VW.

socalguy100
02-15-2011, 04:43 PM
What's the rationale for CSS closing out the Mojave?

clumsy342
02-15-2011, 05:04 PM
absolutely no rationale. just stuck 'em there.

clumsy342
02-15-2011, 07:17 PM
So Chase and Status, huh?
Pure Filth, right?

rage patton
02-16-2011, 12:07 AM
are you calling the 5 minute overlap between VW and Jay-Z a conflict?
PiL conflicted with Jay-Z, not VW.

Vampire Weekend ended a good half hour before Jay-Z took the stage.

and Chase & Status... Pure Filth for sure.

Bumblebee
02-19-2011, 08:22 AM
Nick Rhodes of Duran gave his webiste a video update where he admits to the band going on before kanye - presumably both on the mainstage with changeover time inbetween.

seyrnon
02-19-2011, 08:48 AM
Nick Rhodes of Duran gave his webiste a video update where he admits to the band going on before kanye - presumably both on the mainstage with changeover time inbetween.

would that put the strokes in last years thom yorke slot?

clumsy342
02-19-2011, 09:14 AM
4jX2J9_Qe8A

he talks about Coachella at 2:18. but I wouldn't presume that it's the same stage necessarily. or that they are playing directly before Kanye. He just says Kanye plays after Duran. So the only thing that rules out (which we wouldn't assume anyway) is that Duran won't be conflicting with Kanye.

and goddammit i need to update these.

rage patton
02-19-2011, 02:04 PM
Sunday is gonna be fucked... just focus on Saturday for now!

concertgoer
02-19-2011, 02:33 PM
I didnt expect a Kanye- DD conflict but it's nice to have that confirmed

mikey1313666
02-20-2011, 12:56 PM
Let's get Chase and Status up on the sunday time predictions poster

faxman75
02-22-2011, 06:40 AM
4jX2J9_Qe8A

he talks about Coachella at 2:18. but I wouldn't presume that it's the same stage necessarily. or that they are playing directly before Kanye. He just says Kanye plays after Duran. So the only thing that rules out (which we wouldn't assume anyway) is that Duran won't be conflicting with Kanye.

and goddammit i need to update these.

The National, Duran Duran, Kanye. Strokes on the Outdoor during Duran Duran and Death From Above in the Mohave during Kanye.

I'm not doing the scheduling but that's how I would do it.

IzGewd
02-22-2011, 07:59 AM
I agree, but switch strokes with duran duran. No way a headliner plays outdoor theater

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 08:01 AM
The top three never conflict
The Storokes and Duran Duran will not be playing at the same time

IzGewd
02-22-2011, 08:17 AM
Ah, you are right. Then have the national play the in between set on the outdoor.

KickerConspiracy
02-22-2011, 08:28 AM
still seeing the last updated 2/3 lineup. When is Sunday going to get some love??

summerkid
02-22-2011, 08:31 AM
I think you guys are over thinking it and trying to make it like last year with Thom Yorke.

Why not just keep it simple?

Kanye West 10:30-12
The Strokes 9-10
Duran Duran 7:30-8:30
The National 6:10-7

Outdoor Theatre
----------------------
Nas and Damian Marley 9:20-10:20
PJ Harvey 7:55-8:55
DFA 1979 6:40-7:25

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 09:01 AM
The more I think about it... Duran Duran has got to be on the Main stage. I mean, it's Duran Duran. right? I think sunset on the Main > Strokes makes a whole lotta sense.

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 09:21 AM
I agree
I am really coming around to the idea of Death From Above playing during Kanye on the outdoor :(

drowningmatt
02-22-2011, 09:30 AM
I think you guys are over thinking it and trying to make it like last year with Thom Yorke.

Why not just keep it simple?

Kanye West 10:30-12
The Strokes 9-10
Duran Duran 7:30-8:30
The National 6:10-7

Outdoor Theatre
----------------------
Nas and Damian Marley 9:20-10:20
PJ Harvey 7:55-8:55
DFA 1979 6:40-7:25

This sounds right.

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 09:30 AM
I would flip DFA and Nas
I highly doubt that DFA would play during the daylight

summerkid
02-22-2011, 10:26 AM
I would flip DFA and Nas
I highly doubt that DFA would play during the daylight

Nas and Damian are the perfect counter programming to The Strokes I think they are perfect where they are.

What about switching DFA 1979 and PJ Harvey? PJ then gets a sunset slot on the outdoor. (sunset starts to happen earlier now around 7:15 since they moved coachella up). Also probably dont need as much time in between the two acts because DFA 1979 doesn't have much to set up or sound check.

so DFA 8:10-8:55
PJ Harvey 6:50-7:50

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 10:31 AM
Nas and Damian are the perfect counter programming to The Strokes I think they are perfect where they are.

What about switching DFA 1979 and PJ Harvey? PJ then gets a sunset slot on the outdoor. (sunset starts to happen earlier now around 7:15 since they moved coachella up). Also probably dont need as much time in between the two acts because DFA 1979 doesn't have much to set up or sound check.

so DFA 8:10-8:55
PJ Harvey 6:50-7:50
That would work

faxman75
02-22-2011, 10:34 AM
Ah, you are right. Then have the national play the in between set on the outdoor.

Nope, The National get to graduate to the main stage. They played the outdoor in 08' when Boxer came out and High Violet continues their throttle into greatness.

I say this knowing they are going to get the shaft in all of this somehow.

rskapcat
02-22-2011, 10:37 AM
I would very much like that switch, for purely selfish reasons. No National/DFA 1979 conflict. My 2 must-sees on Sunday.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 10:52 AM
Why only give DFA 1979 a 45 minute set? They are a reunion lots of people are talking about... and you are suggesting giving them 5 minutes less than every other band on the line up?

Also, while I am at it... why close the Outdoor during Kanye?

summerkid
02-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Why only give DFA 1979 a 45 minute set? They are a reunion lots of people are talking about... and you are suggesting giving them 5 minutes less than every other band on the line up?

Also, while I am at it... why close the Outdoor during Kanye?

They only have one full length album. Look at what the xx got last year, 45 minutes.

I'm not convinced that the outdoor will be closed, I just couldn't come up with somebody who would close it and I think it is a possibility that it is closed during Kanye.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 01:17 PM
They have one full length and an EP, when they were still touring they played stuff off of both, not just the album. Both put together is almost an hour. Plus they usually jam some songs longer live. They will get atleast 50 minutes.

And after Gorillaz last year... I highly doubt they will close the outdoor during any of the headliners.

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 02:32 PM
-No one will be on the outdoor past 11PM
-Nas & Damian Marley will NOT end 10 minutes before the hip hop headliner. And most likely will go on while the sun is still up.
-Kanye will need 50 minutes to set up not 30.
-I'm no expert but I thought DFA fans said they work best in a tent?

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 02:39 PM
what do you mean rage? are you saying that Gorillaz was lame, so they should have had someone on the outdoor?
I'd say that if any day closes the outdoor during a headliner, it's gonna be Sunday. (i haven't really looked at the logistics of that.. but.. yeah) We can assume someone will close the outdoor against Kanye. My money is on DFA.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 02:47 PM
It just seems to me that people seem to think NO ONE is going to conflict with Kanye. After Gorillaz last year, we know that is never going to happen again. Someone will be on the outdoor during Kanye. They may not play right till 12, but someone will be on thr outdoor during his set.


-Nas & Damian Marley will NOT end 10 minutes before the hip hop headliner.

I dont see why this is a problem at all. Like Summerkid said... it is great counter programming to The Strokes. Also, GV likes to schedule in a fashion that spreads people out well between stages. Having Nas & Damian end 10 minutes before Kanye goes on actually makes A LOT of sense.

summerkid
02-22-2011, 02:48 PM
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/death-from-above-1979/2004/the-drink-london-on-canada-6bd716f6.html

They can fit this in 45 minutes.

NachoCat
02-22-2011, 02:59 PM
I miss rager

rage patton
02-22-2011, 03:03 PM
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/death-from-above-1979/2004/the-drink-london-on-canada-6bd716f6.html

They can fit this in 45 minutes.

Oh, is this the setlist from their first show back in 5 years? No? Well then we don't know how long they can play.

Maybe they will only play for 45 minutes, but they will be scheduled for at least 50 minutes.

summerkid
02-22-2011, 03:05 PM
-Kanye will need 50 minutes to set up not 30.


I thought this at first, but The Strokes won't have anything to elaborate and anything that Kanye needs to put out can be in position or already on the stage since he is headlining.

Looking at virgin mobile festival in 2008 he had 30 minutes to set up his glow in the dark tour.

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 03:25 PM
I thought this at first, but The Strokes won't have anything to elaborate and anything that Kanye needs to put out can be in position or already on the stage since he is headlining.

Looking at virgin mobile festival in 2008 he had 30 minutes to set up his glow in the dark tour.

I think someone mention every headliner last year getting 50 minutes to set up and that was after Faith No More and LCD Soundsystem (not counting Gorillaz 2 hour setup). And I think after the Bonnaroo thing I think it be safe to bet they want to make sure Kanye has enough time. You can't just have some big ass pyramid or spaceship chilling behind the Strokes.

Also about the Nas & Marley thing it just makes no sense. I know many if not all of my friends who are Nas fans (He's almost all of there's #2 that day) would skip his set to have a spot for Kanye. Plus Nas & Marley have no show that needs light. It's them 2 on stage, A DJ, and a dude waving a flag. I don't see them getting on stage past 6.

And even if they do go on during Strokes they would end 10 minutes before Strokes end NOT 10 minutes before Kanye comes on.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 03:34 PM
Assuming The Strokes are on the mainstage, who do you see playing the Outdoor against them. I am just curious.

summerkid
02-22-2011, 03:44 PM
I think someone mention every headliner last year getting 50 minutes to set up and that was after Faith No More and LCD Soundsystem (not counting Gorillaz 2 hour setup). And I think after the Bonnaroo thing I think it be safe to bet they want to make sure Kanye has enough time. You can't just have some big ass pyramid or spaceship chilling behind the Strokes.

Also about the Nas & Marley thing it just makes no sense. I know many if not all of my friends who are Nas fans (He's almost all of there's #2 that day) would skip his set to have a spot for Kanye. Plus Nas & Marley have no show that needs light. It's them 2 on stage, A DJ, and a dude waving a flag. I don't see them getting on stage past 6.

And even if they do go on during Strokes they would end 10 minutes before Strokes end NOT 10 minutes before Kanye comes on.

on your first point, this is something that I didn't notice last year since I wasn't excited about the headliners except the gorillaz. So I would think you are right that he will get 50 minutes to set up then.

Secon point about Nas and Marley not going on after 6 because its just 2 guys on stage, a dj and a dude waving a flag. I can think of many artists who have played that spot that have had less, DJ Shadow comes to mind.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 03:59 PM
Coachella doesnt follow patterns in scheduling though. Just because each headliner had at least 50 minutes of set up time last year, doesn't mean they will this year.

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 04:10 PM
Coachella doesnt follow patterns in scheduling though. Just because each headliner had at least 50 minutes of set up time last year, doesn't mean they will this year.

Pattern or not Kanye might need more than 30 minutes of set up time for his show. At this point we have no idea because he has no other shows booked besides Lolla Chile.

IzGewd
02-22-2011, 04:11 PM
coachella does follow common sense and logic

rage patton
02-22-2011, 04:15 PM
Coachella schedules have a lot of sense and logic put into them. I would argue more than any other festival. However, due to this, it does not necessarily mean they follow patterns. Usually it means things get shook up a bit each year. The only common trend of the past few years is the Sunday schedules are usually really fucked up.

psycobetabuckdown
02-22-2011, 04:15 PM
The top three never conflict
The Storokes and Duran Duran will not be playing at the same time

Love and Rockets closed the Outdoor in 2008

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 04:26 PM
Love and Rockets closed the Outdoor in 2008

Well I stand corrected then, but didn't the main stage shut down an hour early on Sunday that year?

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 04:39 PM
it did. and it was odd that Love and Rockets conflicted with MMJ. but you can argue that it was allowable given their styles.

Anyhow.. I'd like to get Sunday up and running now. before I do, I want to just throw this out there again...
People have been saying for a while now that the Strokes will probably only play for an hour. But they are co-headlining. I still think they will be given 90 minutes or so. Someone pointed out earlier that J. Casablancas has said that they WILL be playing longer sets after the new album is out. They just didn't want to play long sets without any new material.
So... I say The Strokes (our co-headliner) should get at the very least 75-80 minutes. If they can put on an hour long show without any new material, they could easily manage 80 minutes.
agreed?

rage patton
02-22-2011, 04:44 PM
I would say 75 minutes. Rage Against The Machine only got 80 minutes in 07.

psycobetabuckdown
02-22-2011, 04:44 PM
I agree and I'll be pissed if they don't play 70 minutes at least.

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 04:47 PM
oh, and I see both sides to that Nas conversation.
I'd assume they would play opposite the Strokes. On the other hand, they could easily play the Main around 6. but perhaps that slot is better left to Wiz Khalifa?

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 04:49 PM
I would say 75 minutes. Rage Against The Machine only got 80 minutes in 07.

that year though, Bjork and RHCP only got 75. so.. Rage got the longer set out of the headliners (barely). It's a trip to look back and see all the headliners with hour and fifteen minute sets.

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 04:54 PM
oh.. and we're sure that the National is going to be on the Main? (instead of Duran Duran?) If National plays the main before the Strokes, then I'd say Duran Duran is most DEFINITELY on the outdoor between between strokes/kanye. exactly how we have Mumford on the outdoor on saturday. (and like they did with Yorke, MGMT, and VW last year) so.. its not too unlikely i guess.
it just seems like.. you know.. its fucking Duran Duran.. shouldnt they be on the main?

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 05:08 PM
on your first point, this is something that I didn't notice last year since I wasn't excited about the headliners except the gorillaz. So I would think you are right that he will get 50 minutes to set up then.

Secon point about Nas and Marley not going on after 6 because its just 2 guys on stage, a dj and a dude waving a flag. I can think of many artists who have played that spot that have had less, DJ Shadow comes to mind.

True. This isn't enough criteria for them to not go on late but I just don't see them or Wiz ending that close to Kanye.

And I still stand by Wiz either in a tent late night or main/outdoor before 4:30. He is really huge but he is also only huge in 1 market. He has one big song and moreso a cult following for the rest of his material. A big one but not Main/Outdoor at coachella night big.

Also I see PJ Harvey playing during the end of Strokes/50 minute break before Kanye. Is that odd or believable? Seems right to me.

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 05:12 PM
I can't see PJ Harvey even overlapping with the Strokes. am I wrong? Or would it just blow if that happened?

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 05:15 PM
I just know someone has to play in that set up break spot and I'm just trying to find anyway for it to not be The National :lol

rage patton
02-22-2011, 05:15 PM
oh.. and we're sure that the National is going to be on the Main? (instead of Duran Duran?) If National plays the main before the Strokes, then I'd say Duran Duran is most DEFINITELY on the outdoor between between strokes/kanye. exactly how we have Mumford on the outdoor on saturday. (and like they did with Yorke, MGMT, and VW last year) so.. its not too unlikely i guess.
it just seems like.. you know.. its fucking Duran Duran.. shouldnt they be on the main?

The question to ask is... will Duran Duran play during the daylight? If you think it is reasonable for them to play during daylight, you will put them on the mainstage. If you do not think it is reasonable, then you have to put either Duran Duran or The Strokes on the outdoor.

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 05:21 PM
I can picture sunset on the main being perfect for Duran Duran.. but no way are the Strokes going to play the outdoor.. right?!
I've got:
Kanye - 10:30 (same time as Gorillaz.. don't argue, haha)
Strokes - 8:25-9:40
National - 7:05-7:55

and Duran Duran 9:40-10:30 on the outdoor

and.. that seems pretty good to me.

GolfWang
02-22-2011, 05:23 PM
If you schedule it like this Duran Duran only plays for like 10 minutes before sunset.

Kanye West 10:30
The Strokes 8:30-9:40
Duran Duran 7:05-8:05

seems completely reasonable to me.

EDIT: well Clumsy beat me to it^^^ pretty much the same.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 05:23 PM
Seems good to me. Where will you put DFA 1979 and PJ Harvey?

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 05:23 PM
I can picture sunset on the main being perfect for Duran Duran.. but no way are the Strokes going to play the outdoor.. right?!
I've got:
Kanye - 10:30 (same time as Gorillaz.. don't argue, haha)
Strokes - 8:25-9:40
National - 7:05-7:55

and Duran Duran 9:40-10:30 on the outdoor

and.. that seems pretty good to me.
That looks good

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 05:25 PM
well.. judging from last year, it looks like they want a BIG act on the outdoor during the setup time on the Main. So.. Duran Duran is a no-brainer, actually.

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 05:26 PM
Seems good to me. Where will you put DFA 1979 and PJ Harvey?

time will tell, haha.. i'm just getting into it now. i'll work some magic

ok. I can say now, for a fact, there is going to be someone on the outdoor during Kanye.
Is it:
DFA1979 (.001% fan overlap with Kanye)
or
PJ Harvey (avoiding conflict with Strokes/National)

OR .. do you think the National could play during the day on the main as in National>Duran>Strokes>Kanye? I wouldn't bet on it.. but it would clear a lot of shit up.

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 05:31 PM
Seems good to me. Where will you put DFA 1979 and PJ Harvey?

What about PJ plays the outdoor from 7:25-8:25 That way she doesn't conflict with The Strokes
DFA could close out The Outdoor from 11-12

rage patton
02-22-2011, 05:46 PM
time will tell, haha.. i'm just getting into it now. i'll work some magic

ok. I can say now, for a fact, there is going to be someone on the outdoor during Kanye.
Is it:
DFA1979 (.001% fan overlap with Kanye)
or
PJ Harvey (avoiding conflict with Strokes/National)

OR .. do you think the National could play during the day on the main as in National>Duran>Strokes>Kanye? I wouldn't bet on it.. but it would clear a lot of shit up.

Why can't the mainstage go

National>Strokes>Kanye

while the outdoor goes

PJ>duran x2>DFA

That seems to make sense. The only part that doesnt really make sense is either DFA or PJ conflicting with The Strokes.

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 05:52 PM
The National and PJ would be a weird conflict but The National have been everywhere over the past year so I don't think it would be too big of a deal.
It makes more sense than having her conflict with either of the two headliners

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 05:53 PM
When did DFA move from the Mojave to Outdoor?

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 05:55 PM
yeah. it's tough because I don't think PJ should conflict with National or Strokes. But let's look at who has been touring fucking everywhere the last year.. uhhhh the National. So I'd say its more likely she conflict with them.
beat me to it concertgoer

longface, even though I think DFA could play the Mojave. they are billed a bit high for that. (although so was sly stone, and he "played" the gobi) .. regardless, there are WAAY too many acts this day. the tents are already packed

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 05:57 PM
Or you could give PJ the Jonsi spot :)

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 05:59 PM
yuuucck.. she's been sought after for coachella forever. no way she goes on during the day. especially with her billing. not to mention her crazy following.

ALSO -
I want to mention that when I update this, keep in mind we're still trying to figure out the late main/outdoor first.
I realize there are some way wrong acts. but we can figure that out a little later.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 06:04 PM
When did DFA move from the Mojave to Outdoor?

When it became apparent that this DFA 1979 reunion was a lot bigger of a deal than people orginally thought. I want this to happen so badly... but have come to terms with this not happening.

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 06:10 PM
you would rather they play the mojave, rage?

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 06:12 PM
When it became apparent that this DFA 1979 reunion was a lot bigger of a deal than people orginally thought. I want this to happen so badly... but have come to terms with this not happening.

But didn't it get a less bigger deal when they announced other dates?

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 06:17 PM
But didn't it get a less bigger deal when they announced other dates?

Not really

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 06:17 PM
dude, they're billing alone indicates that they won't be in a tent.

clumsy342
02-22-2011, 06:23 PM
ooooohhh.. what about..

Main:
Nas/Marley>National>Strokes>Kanye

Outdoor:
PJ>Ratatat>Duran>DFA

and put Wiz in the Mojave, as suggested earlier.

that looks real good to me. and it makes sense billing wise.

rage patton
02-22-2011, 06:26 PM
you would rather they play the mojave, rage?

Yes. Yes a million times over. Yes.


But didn't it get a less bigger deal when they announced other dates?

It became it bigger deal, actually.


dude, they're billing alone indicates that they won't be in a tent.

Not necessarily, but this has bee discussed a number of times.


ooooohhh.. what about..

Main:
Nas/Marley>National>Strokes>Kanye

Outdoor:
PJ>Ratatat>Duran>DFA

and put Wiz in the Mojave, as suggested earlier.

that looks real good to me. and it makes sense billing wise.

That seems to look good. But why not put Wiz on before PJ or Nas/Marley? That seems to make more sense to me than a late night tent?

WhyTheLongFace
02-22-2011, 06:26 PM
True.

concertgoer
02-22-2011, 06:26 PM
ooooohhh.. what about..

Main:
Nas/Marley>National>Strokes>Kanye

Outdoor:
PJ>Ratatat>Duran>DFA

and put Wiz in the Mojave, as suggested earlier.

that looks real good to me. and it makes sense billing wise.

Would that mean that PJ is playing around 5 or so?