I'll Be Your Mirror (Curated by Portishead and ATP) - London

[sonofhal]

Just to jump the gun a little.

Portishead and ATP will be curating a new festival at Alexandra Palace next July (23rd and 24th). Tix go on sale friday.

No link yet as it hasn't been officially announced.

Oh, and hi! It's been a while.

[suprefan]

Hi, long time.

[captncrzy]

If we come, can someone put us up?

I'm being serious here on this one.

[heart cooks brain]

Does this mean Portishead is/will be done with LP4 and possibly playing real shows?(suprefizzle need not respond)

[fikus222]

Hot diggity.

[sonofhal]

If we come, can someone put us up?

I'm being serious here on this one.

Yes.

[captncrzy]

Thanks Chris. We don't want to intrude so I just booked us a hotel room at the Raglan (less than a mile away) for about 90 pounds a night (we may bring my daughter with us). We're totally DOING THIS!

[sonofhal]

No probs.

It'll be nice to see something at Alexandra Palace in the summer. I always seem to catch shows up there when it is icy cold.

[captncrzy]

I'm so excited I can barely stand it.

[shakermaker113]

hmmm.

[J~$$$$]

How much are tickets?

[shakermaker113]

partial lineup:


Line up:

Saturday 23rd July - PORTISHEAD, MF DOOM, COMPANY FLOW (original line-up -
first UK show in 10 years), THE BOOKS, FACTORY FLOOR, BEAK> & MORE TO BE
ANNOUNCED.

Sunday 24th July - PORTISHEAD, SWANS, BEACH HOUSE, LIARS,
THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC, ANIKA & MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED.

http://www.seetickets.com/Event/I-LL-BE-YOUR-MIRROR-CURATED-BY-PORTISHEAD-ATP/Alexandra-Palace/524260/

[shakermaker113]

How much are tickets?

...


PORTISHEAD live shows

24 Nov 2010

PORTISHEAD confirm "I'LL BE YOUR MIRROR" Curated by PORTISHEAD & ATP
23rd & 24th July - Alexandra Palace, London


On the weekend of 23rd and 24th July 2011 at Alexandra Palace, London, All Tomorrow's Parties will present the first UK I'll Be Your Mirror event, which will be curated by Portishead and ATP.

Acting as sister event to ATP Festivals and named after the b-side to The Velvet Underground's original All Tomorrow's Parties 7" single, I'll Be Your Mirror will be a new series of artist curated music, film and art events taking place in cities worldwide.

Portishead will headline both nights, with a different supporting line-up joining them each day. Tickets will cost £59 per day with weekend tickets priced at £100. At this point these are the only UK shows Portishead plan to play in 2011, and you can get early bird tickets at reduced prices here

[captncrzy]

Tix are on sale now. Tried to buy but realized they don't take AMEX. Waiting for the husband to purchase on a VISA. Early bird 2 day passes are 90.

[shakermaker113]

for two portishead headline sets, plus whoever else plays. damn.

I wonder how (if) this is supposed to differ from other ATP festivals.

[sonofhal]

I wonder how (if) this is supposed to differ from other ATP festivals.

Well, you don't stay there. That's different.

Ticket bought, so I'm in.

[captncrzy]

We're having an issue buying tix. Credit card being declined. THinking maybe because it's an American card but not sure.

[TheUnderworld]

pay off your debts

[J~$$$$]

90 bucks is great deal for a really good lineup.

[captncrzy]

Still can't get card to work; bank is saying everything is fine on their end so not sure. Going to call and order by phone.

[dorkfish]

"Portishead plan to play in Europe in June/July and the US during September/October - as plans are confirmed news will be posted here first so keep checking the news page."

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Boy, I am really curious what's going on with two separate Portishead sets within the same weekend.

[shakermaker113]

Boy, I am really curious what's going on with two separate Portishead sets within the same weekend.

why?

[dorkfish]

Boy, I am really curious what's going on with two separate Portishead sets within the same weekend.
They played two (identical) sets last time they curated an ATP event in 2007.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

why?

Because it could mean something really special, potentially?

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

They played two (identical) sets last time they curated an ATP event in 2007.

Oh. That's fucking lame.

[captncrzy]

May not go now that we know there will be US dates.

[shakermaker113]

They played two (identical) sets last time they curated an ATP event in 2007.

they also did two sets at primavera 2008. not sure how identical they were.

[dorkfish]

they also did two sets at primavera 2008. not sure how identical they were.
Primavera sets were identical as well. Same set as the ATP shows, but they dropped Only You for Threads or another song.

[sonofhal]

One Primavera set was outside with horrendous soundbleed from Boris. The other was in the all seated indoor Auditori and was pretty fucking ace.

[sbessiso]

"Portishead plan to play in Europe in June/July and the US during September/October - as plans are confirmed news will be posted here first so keep checking the news page."

YES YES YES!!!!!!

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

One Primavera set was outside with horrendous soundbleed from Boris. The other was in the all seated indoor Auditori and was pretty fucking ace.

Boris and Portishead should have been playing TOGETHER

[sonofhal]

It sounded like they were.

[GeezrRckr]

ed, are you thinking of going to this? good time to visit family, perhaps?

[corbo]

IM GOING!!!!!!!!!

[FoxeyLady]

HOLY SHIT COMPANY FLOW!!! Finally. They better do some US dates... Coachella please.

[wmgaretjax]

the portishead US dates might work with ATP NY... if it happens...

[dorkfish]

I was thinking that they would make a good choice for the ATP headliner, but likely not curators, again.

[Aurgasm]

I'm very glad I don't have to go to England to see them... phew

[send me ctrpllrs]

Oh that would be lovely to see Portishead in the Starlight Ballroom. I hope that works out, as tempted as I am to fly to London, I'm going to just wait for the US dates. I'll be at more than one of those.

[emtgreg]

I'm very glad I don't have to go to England to see them... phew

this

[Boourns]

I'm very glad I don't have to go to England to see them... phew

Seriously. I still have to for Pulp, though.

[sonofhal]

ATP crowds in the UK are fucking ace, though. All there for the music and not just for a piss up.

[Wheres the beef?]

whats a "piss up"?

[Thisismyname]

I would assume it's the British version of GETTING SHITTY.

Y/N?

[suprefan]

90 bucks is great deal for a really good lineup.

Its not 90 bucks. Its 90 POUNDS. Meaning itll be about $150. :nono

[Devin the Dude]

Still a fair price. Most of you fuckers would give your first born to watch Beth Gibbons stand still for an hour.

[shakermaker113]

ed, are you thinking of going to this? good time to visit family, perhaps?

potentially, yes.


whats a "piss up"?

mass excessive alcohol consumption.

[SoulDischarge]

Fuccckkkkkkk. Porishead, CoFlow, and Swans in the same weekend.

[sonofhal]

whats a "piss up"?

It's seeing a social event more as an excuse to get drunk.

[GeezrRckr]

wow, Grinderman was just added. this is becoming more difficult to resist.

[captncrzy]

It's becoming more and more painful to realize we aren't going to make it after all. Fucking hell.

[suprefan]

SDFLSDADFHSDAFJHSDFJLSDF

GRINDERMAN!!

[rage patton]

I might be going to this.

[NicoDread]

Me too.

[sbessiso]

I might be going to this.

Im deluding myself into thinking I might as well. If roo's lineup sucks Im tempted to hit this but damn this airfare

[rage patton]

Im deluding myself into thinking I might as well. If roo's lineup sucks Im tempted to hit this but damn this airfare

Becky and I would love to see you there! We got lucky, because we were thinking of heading back from our Honeymoon that weekend anyways, but if we can somehow swing an extended layover in London, we think we will be able to afford the rest.


Me too.

This is starting to sound like a party!

[ficklecycle]

I just talked to my girlfriend about this, and she's almost on board. A weekend in London watching Portishead would pretty much be the greatest 21st birthday present to myself, EVER.

[sbessiso]

Becky and I would love to see you there! We got lucky, because we were thinking of heading back from our Honeymoon that weekend anyways, but if we can somehow swing an extended layover in London, we think we will be able to afford the rest.

I know stinkbutt is interested which is what initially planted the seed in my head. Definitely considering this.

[GeezrRckr]

so am i. quite.

[rage patton]

I was actually considering doing Benicassim instead of this... but for some reason this has more appeal to me. I have heard Benicassim is an awesome festival, but seeing Portishead in a Palace just seems... too perfect.

[sonofhal]

Benicassim is a nice location, but always tends to have a rather average lineup (with ladrock headliners).

Josh (& Becks) - you obviously have somewhere to stay if you come to I'll Be Your Mirror.

[SoulDischarge]

Plus

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[stinkbutt]

I know stinkbutt is interested which is what initially planted the seed in my head. Definitely considering this.

I'm about 90% sure this is what I'm doing. I was thinking of Roo, but spending my birthday in Europe sounds a lot more fun. I'm doing Coachella again now, so I think that will be my 1 US festival unless ATPNY is announced again.

[sbessiso]

Fuck, I need to see Grinderman here. Tonight was otherworldly

[GeezrRckr]

yes, i think i may want to see Grinderman again more than Portishead.



(ha, not really, but i can't stop smiling today after seeing Grinderman last night...just phenomenal. i want another crack at being pointed at by Mr. Cave!)

[sbessiso]

i would say at this point id be equally excited for p-head and g-man

[Sublime]

Best news I've heard in forever! Can't wait till the whole tour is announced.

[faxman75]

This is my latest consideration. I didn't get to really see much of London last visit in 08' and the venue looks fantastic. So is the Raglan the best option for lodging?

[sonofhal]

It's close (25 min walk) and fairly cheap. You'll want a hotel in walking distance with the festival finishing after the last tubes have gone.

[chairmenmeow47]

mark, i'm interested to hear your travel research. i am seriously considering this as well. i know they're touring in the fall, but we all know i can't take that chance. also, my major project at work ends in july, so it would be a good time to go. and i just realized that with our new pay schedule, i will get three paychecks in july.

[captncrzy]

I have a room booked at the Raglan that I'm about to cancel (in case it's sold out or something)

[GeezrRckr]

can you hold on to it, please? i may want it later on. unless, of course, there is a deposit involved. but, if it's got a reasonable cancellation policy, maybe you could hold on to it a bit longer. i'm still pondering this one.

ps - what's the tariff/night?

[chairmenmeow47]

i don't understand the raglan's prices. is that the total price for all three nights, or the price per night? it says "Rate for 3 nights" which would make me think it's the total price, but i'm curious.

[captncrzy]

Its the total price (in pounds). Also be aware that Twin room is two twins and a Double room is one double bed (not two).

[captncrzy]

can you hold on to it, please? i may want it later on. unless, of course, there is a deposit involved. but, if it's got a reasonable cancellation policy, maybe you could hold on to it a bit longer. i'm still pondering this one.

ps - what's the tariff/night?

Ah shit. Sorry I cancelled it. Just go reserve it directly from their website; it's free to reserve and free to cancel.

[faxman75]

I really think this is better suited for me this year than a full festival somewhere in Europe. I would like to make it a Thursday through Tuesday or something like that.

Any other hotels you would recommend soh?

I'll let you know what I find Ivy. I'll most likely purchase airfare one way at a time. I like to plan early so I may even purchase the weekend ATP pass soon.

[GeezrRckr]

just booked a twin room for Thurs-Mon @ 380 pounds for the entire stay. the inventory appears to be dwindling so i suggest people make a reservation now. like Jen said, the cancellation policy is very liberal.

[shakermaker113]

I am also considering this. I'm just waiting for a couple of other bands to announce more dates for the summer.

[Boourns]

I'll most likely purchase airfare one way at a time.

Don't do it. A one-way from London to the states costs just as much or more than a round-trip ticket. Check expedia.

[captncrzy]

I'll let you know what I find Ivy. I'll most likely purchase airfare one way at a time. I like to plan early so I may even purchase the weekend ATP pass soon.

RE: airfares...don't count on the prices dropping, unless OPEC increases production-which they are saying they won't. Fuel may be back up to $100 a barrel in January/February, which means higher air tickets, especially for summer Euro destinations. You may get lucky and find a "last minute" discounted fare, but I'm not sure I would count on it.

[faxman75]

I'm Mr. cheapo so if it's not financially viable I won't be buying anything. On more than one occasion buying one way at a time made it more budgetable and didn't cost me any extra. I rule nothing out when searching for affordable travel.

[captncrzy]

Our flight from PHL-Heathrow has already sold half of the seats available on the 22nd. Flight from CLT-Gatwick has only sold 10 seats...so who knows.

[faxman75]

RE: airfares...don't count on the prices dropping, unless OPEC increases production-which they are saying they won't. Fuel may be back up to $100 a barrel in January/February, which means higher air tickets, especially for summer Euro destinations. You may get lucky and find a "last minute" discounted fare, but I'm not sure I would count on it.

Yeah I won't be waiting until last minute but possibly another look in March if I don't see anything in the next few weeks. Thanks for the tips :)

It's possible I fly into Dublin as well since that tends to be cheaper and then it's nothing to get from Dublin to London.

[faxman75]

I just booked a hotel at the Comfort Hotel Finchley, it's a double room so a bed is open for anyone interested in a split. About 3 miles from the venue. 5 nights July 21st to 26th... breakfast included for a total cost of 338 pounds or $520 or if splitting that's only $260 each.

Also, it is free to cancel up to 2 days prior. Now we'll see if I get further in planning this than I did with Primavera.

[Boourns]

I'm Mr. cheapo so if it's not financially viable I won't be buying anything. On more than one occasion buying one way at a time made it more budgetable and didn't cost me any extra. I rule nothing out when searching for affordable travel.

Domestic one-ways, yes, but not international.

[chairmenmeow47]

oh you people bring out the anxiety in me. i booked the last twin room for fri-mon just in case. i may have other options if i travel alone, but i would kind of like to bring someone and have a few friends that are "maybes", so we'll see how the corn goes.

[sonofhal]

I just booked a hotel at the Comfort Hotel Finchley, it's a double room so a bed is open for anyone interested in a split. About 3 miles from the venue. 5 nights July 21st to 26th... breakfast included for a total cost of 338 pounds or $520 or if splitting that's only $260 each.

Also, it is free to cancel up to 2 days prior. Now we'll see if I get further in planning this than I did with Primavera.

Double room = one bed. Bring someone you know well.

[faxman75]

Is there any risk of the event selling out soon or are we safe for a bit? I know very little about ATP's and even less about this venue.

[sonofhal]

First time they've done anything at Alexandra Palace so it's very hard to say.

The Minehead ones tend to sell out, but they include your chalet. You buy a chalet and then try and fill it. Totally different beast to this one.

[faxman75]

Double room = one bed. Bring someone you know well.

Good call. I do have the "standard twin room". Which is two beds. I called it a double by mistake.

*free wifi
*full english breakfast included
*gay friendly

[GeezrRckr]

forgive me if this was already asked, but what is capacity of the venue?

[chairmenmeow47]

i noticed early bird 2-day tickets were already gone, but who knows how many there were. i am hoping this will not sell out before i get my tax return.

[sonofhal]

It's around the 10k mark.

[faxman75]

Yep, I just read this.


On 15 November 2008, the venue hosted Bullet For My Valentine as part of their Scream Aim Fire tour. They were supported by Black Tide, Lacuna Coil, Bleeding Through and Lawnmower Deth. The Show sold out with 9,000 fans attending the venue and is one of the largest metal concerts to be held at the venue to date.

[chairmenmeow47]

ha, so i've got at least two people interested, so i booked another double bed room just in case. i think i'm obsessed :x continental and US airways seem to have decent prices so far. let's hope they stay that way for a bit.

[faxman75]

Is everything you are finding around $1200?

[chairmenmeow47]

kinda, continental & us airways had like $960-$999, but those were leaving around the tuesday before and coming back around the tuesday after. i picked tuesdays because i've found that day to be cheaper generally and i've been flexible with my dates.

[captncrzy]

I just checked our site; about $1025 without fees to both LHR and LGW. Flying into DUB was a couple hundy more.

I'd seriously suggest to the PHX peeps to keep an eye on British Airways. They fly a daily non-stop flight from PHX to LHR and right now, the price is comparable. The PHL-LHR or CLT-LGW flight is brutal because it's just barely enough time in the air overnight to go to sleep. A co-worker of mine in London regularly flies on BA instead of us when she has to come to PHX because she can actually get some sleep.

Plus, BA is a pretty damn good airline.

[chairmenmeow47]

thanks for the tip, jen! doesn't look too bad and no stops is always a bonus :)

[faxman75]

Noted thanks for the continued advice Jen! I just took a stab at the old fashioned name your own price priceline. I bid fairly low at $800 then again at $850.

They offered me a ticket for $1188. Not much of a difference at all from any published fairs in fact they even state it's only $13 cheaper than any published fairs that they can find. So it appears for now the magic number with taxes and fees is around $1200. I've also been searching with date flexibility.

[captncrzy]

Also, they fly a 747 out of PHX, which is just pretty awesome itself.

[chairmenmeow47]

stops just always further your chance of your bag not being back in your possession until four days after you return home.

[faxman75]

stops just always further your chance of your bag not being back in your possession until four days after you return home.

Yep, my luggage was returned the next day after my last Europe trip. No big deal but my fear is arriving to my destination without luggage! That would really suck.

[captncrzy]

Well, yeah. But the sleep thing is a big bonus. It leaves here around 630PM and then arrives in London around 1 in the afternoon (so you're in the air like 9.5 hours).

When you have to stop on the east coast, you leave around 10 at night and then arrive in london at around 10am, so you're only in the air for 6-7 hours. by the time they serve you your meal and you get settled in, you only have a few hours to sleep.

[chairmenmeow47]

yeah, but i can't sleep on planes. i start to sleep, then i have lucid nightmares that i'm falling out of the plane and wake myself up. it's torture.

[captncrzy]

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[faxman75]

I've been considering a package deal. RT airfare from PHX to London plus 8 nights at the Acropolis Hotel (it's a 2 star with sub par reviews) about 7 miles from the venue and central to many places in London. Total cost $1650 for July 16th to 25th.

[rage patton]

Becky and I are officially in. We fly into London on July 21st from Istambul.

[fikus222]

Becky and I are officially in. We fly into London on July 21st from Istambul.

Sooo jealous.

[chairmenmeow47]

istanbul not constantinople istambul :p

[Boourns]

I've been considering a package deal. RT airfare from PHX to London plus 8 nights at the Acropolis Hotel (it's a 2 star with sub par reviews) about 7 miles from the venue and central to many places in London. Total cost $1650 for July 16th to 25th.

Sounds like a deal. A shitty hotel is still better than a hostel.

[faxman75]

Sounds like a deal. A shitty hotel is still better than a hostel.

True that. Now I need to hope the deal doesn't change for a little longer. I need my Spring Semester Financial Aid Money Bomb aka SSFAMB.

[chairmenmeow47]

:nono

[I.F.A.]

I'm waiting to hear back from my boss if I can have the time off for this. Her sister from Israel will be here in July, but she's not sure when. I will be a very unhappy camper if she won't let me off.


A shitty hotel is still better than a hostel.

How much better? If I do this, I'm going to have to do it as cheaply as possible so I was thinking hostel (except for the nights of the festival, when I'll stay with Ivy in her hotel). I've never traveled internationally, though I stayed in a hostel in San Diego once and had no problems. It seems like hostel quality differs widely, so I'm doing as much research as I can, but I don't want to end up getting gang-raped by cockroaches or something.

[sonofhal]

The cockroaches of London are a pretty rapey lot.

[faxman75]

Just read reviews at hostelworld or some similar sights. I have stayed at hostels in Dublin, London, Amsterdam, Prague and Rome. Some things you want to consider when booking a hostel.

*Number of beds per room
*private rooms are sometimes just as much as a cheap hotel room.
*private or shared bathroom/shower
*kitchen or not (if you are staying a bit, grocery shopping will save you cash
*location
*luggage room or lockers
*it's going to be full of college kids backpacking and partying

Each hostel was different than the next. I stayed in Dublin for about $15 a night at a couple of different hostels that were decent and clean but I was sharing a room with about 8 bunk beds and 15 other people.

In amsterdam we had a private room. It was super tiny but in a fantastic location and only came out to be about $38/per night. Just look over everything really clear and if you are not wanting to share a room with a bunch of strangers you might be better off in a cheap hotel. I'm going the hotel route this time because it's not a huge difference in price.

Here is the one I stayed at in London. It was just one night and a younger crowd. It's attached to a club but it's walking distance to things like the London Bridge and Big Ben...

http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/St-Christophers-Shepherds-Bush/London/506

[Boourns]

I'm waiting to hear back from my boss if I can have the time off for this. Her sister from Israel will be here in July, but she's not sure when. I will be a very unhappy camper if she won't let me off.



How much better? If I do this, I'm going to have to do it as cheaply as possible so I was thinking hostel (except for the nights of the festival, when I'll stay with Ivy in her hotel). I've never traveled internationally, though I stayed in a hostel in San Diego once and had no problems. It seems like hostel quality differs widely, so I'm doing as much research as I can, but I don't want to end up getting gang-raped by cockroaches or something.
I always stay at hostels. Your mileage will vary wildly. I will do full writeups of my london hostel experiences when I have all mod cons.

Never had to deal with roachy rapetasticness, though.

[I.F.A.]

Thanks for the tips.

I will pretty much just be sleeping there, so it's not like I need a nice room to hang out in, and I think I'd be okay sharing a room with strangers (as long as I feel safe about securing my things there). I figure that with some earplugs, I'll be fine.

And about the roach fear - one of my old teachers told me about a hostel she stayed in in Hungary or something that was crawling with them at night (like, to the extent that she was afraid to sleep, but also afraid to even get off of the bed to leave the room because they were all over the floor), so the roach/hostel association has kind of stuck.

[Boourns]

Right. All that's really necessary are a bed, locker, and decent showers. Showers can be surprisingly dodgy (group showers, showers with only scorching hot water, showers with no seats, shelves, hooks to put your stuff on, etc.).

[faxman75]

Yep be sure to bring either flip flops or shower shoes as well.

[Boourns]

For reference, every hostel I've ever booked in London:

St Christopher’s Shepherds Bush
Pros:
cheap (£10.90 a night for a bed in an 8-person dorm is a bargain)
convenience and grocery stores within a block
across the street from the underground
bar downstairs

Cons:
Showers! Each stall had a puddle of scummy water that never drained, floor blackened with mold and dead skin, no control over water temperature (button releases scalding hot only, which makes the whole place a sauna if it's summer), nowhere to place your clothes or toiletries inside or outside the stalls unless you have a waterproof bag and put it on the floor).
Got kicked out of the room with wi-fi, games, couches, tv, etc so the hostel could have some kind of meetings there a couple times while trying to work or get directions.
no kitchen, because they want you to eat at the expensive restaurant
This was not a con for me at all, but it might be for others: not central to popular tourist attractions.

Smart Russell Square
Pros:
CHEAP! £8.94 for a bed in a 24 person dorm. Yes, 24.
Close to Underground, Tesco, and a tasty Dutch Pankake house.
The beds are pod-like and include privacy curtains, which make being in a room with 24 people easier. There are smaller rooms available, but I liked the novelty of it.

Cons:
dirty dorms (someone's rancid, expired juice and yogurt was in my locker waiting for me upon arrival)
Massive. Expect to get lost when going to the shower, bathroom, doing laundry, finding your room, etc. Not a significant issue to me personally, but I thought I'd list it.
Dorms get claustrophobic and hot as hell.
Lockers cost money (they use electronic locks).

Piccadilly Backpackers
Pros:
As centrally located to London's biggest tourist traps as you can get.
Tesco nearby, along with a decent pub and a Hummus Bros.
Hot breakfast available. Quality ranges from pretty good to pretty bad, prices a little high but reasonably so. A cromulent option if you're tired of the usual cereal and wonderbread and too tired/hung over to cook.
Near the Underground.
Cons:
Rates vary significantly. £12-22 a night.
dirty
Some really awful restaurants nearby as well.
Some really rude staff.
One of the only hostels to have an elevator. It's old, tiny, and the hostel is huge. Also, expect to get stuck at least once on it.
No sink in the dorm. Pretty much every other hostel had this.
Smallest hostel lockers I've ever seen.

Astor Victoria
Pros:

Quiet
It's a 15 minute walk to Victoria station, so it's a good place to stay if you're just in London for the night before going elsewhere and have to be awake early in the morning.
Cons:

Quiet
Area is pretty residential, so forget about drinking or even grabbing some dinner.
£16.00 for a bed in an 8-person dorm isn't bad and comparable to rates in the US, but it's not the cheapest option out there.
Easy to miss. I walked right past it without noticing and ended up at Hyde Park circle. That was not a good day.
Wi-fi ain't free.


And some not in London:
St Christopher's at The Palace Hotel - Brighton
Pros:

fun bar downstairs
across the street from the rock beach

Cons:
Ensuite bathrooms, but bad design. Shower water sprays all over the place and the floor is perpetually soaked. So if you have to shit in the middle of the night, wear shoes.
Cheapest rate I got was £18.00 a night.
Kipps Hostel - Brighton
Pros:

Friendly, helpful staff
My rate in a 10 person dorm (ensuite) was $19.51
Clean
Ensuite shower was everything a shower should be.
Within walking distance of everything.
Bar downstairs (ended up going to the one at the other hostel, though)

Cons:

None. Pretty much perfect. I think they charged 2 quid for continental breakfast, but there are a lot of places between the hostel and train station for a cheap hot meal, so fuck it.

Central Backpackers - Oxford
Pros:
Cheap beer was available for the World Cup. Don't know if this is an everyday thing.
Close to the train station
Close to everything, actually.
Clean

Cons:
Comparatively expensive at £20 a night.


A couple things to keep in mind. First, nobody gives you a towel like they do at American hostels. So bring a towel and always do your showering the night before going to your next destination because if you do it in the morning, you'll be stuck hauling a wet towel, which will smell awful by the time you liberate it from it's bag in your luggage. Also, most hostels seem to not have ensuite bathrooms, but nearly all of them have a sink, so you can still brush your teeth, wash hands, deal with contacts.

[shakermaker113]

Sounds like a deal. A shitty hotel is still better than a hostel.

not true. a shitty hotel is better than a shitty hostel. I've come across good hostels that are far better than shitty hotels.

haven't found one in london yet though.

[shakermaker113]

good writeup, by the way.

[I.F.A.]

Boourns, thanks for the write up!

I've actually been considering these ones, so it was very helpful!

St Christopher’s Shepherds Bush

Smart Russell Square

Astor Victoria

[rage patton]

istanbul not constantinople istambul :p

Yeah, whatever this place is

http://arion.lupacovka.cz/www_data/Image/turkey/istanbul_genel.jpg

[sonofhal]

PJ Harvey added to Saturday. DD/MM/YYYY and S.C.U.M also added.

http://www.atpfestival.com/assets/img/20100723-mirrorpj.jpg

[Boourns]

DD/MM/YYYY

Is this seriously a band name?

[shakermaker113]

awesome band name.

[wmgaretjax]

solid band too.

[faxman75]

lol I think that was on Bug's list. I usually recognize about 4 band names when ATP releases their lineups. In this case it's Portishead, Beach House, P.J. Harvey and The Books.

So who is this Grinderman? I guess I should do some research...

[GeezrRckr]

god, this lineup just keeps getting better.

yes, Mark....Grinderman is the shit. it's Nick Cave....a really raunchy, edgy version of him. a bunch of us saw him here in SF a couple months back and they blew us all away. definitely one of my top shows of 2010.

EDIT: and check out Liars too. not sure they're in your sweet spot, but they're a big draw for me on this bill.

[chairmenmeow47]

FUCK YES

[faxman75]

Thanks for the tips Geezr, I forget what Liars album I listened to a few years ago but I dismissed it fairly quickly, i'll give them another listen and Grinderman. I'm so god damned broke at the moment. Just purchased a ticket to the Bears playoff game next weekend. I also have to consider what summer class I am taking and how that may conflict with this. We'll see how it all pans out over the next 30-45 days though!

[chairmenmeow47]

the liars fucking blow. i was stuck listening to them by myself while randy got beer at the radiohead hollywood bowl show.

[TomAz]

Liars were very solid at Coachella a couple years ago. Recommended.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Mark, also be sure to check out Swans' Children Of God to see if you're into them, they're awesome. And Beak> is Geoff from portishead's other band, also really great.

[faxman75]

Yeah Beak is another. Damn. I have a fuck load of music homework and to think the damn Coachella lineup isn't even out yet. It's going to be overload. I've been meaning to check out Beak> for a while now though and i'll add Swans to that list as well.

[Boourns]

the liars fucking blow. i was stuck listening to them by myself while randy got beer at the radiohead hollywood bowl show.

When I first saw them in West Palm Beach, I thought "this isn't so bad", but after a couple times, it just got too boring. Their set in Santa Barbara is the only time I have fallen asleep standing up, not counting blacking out during Daft Punk.

[Cookieman908]

You blacked out during Daft Punk? WTF

[Cookieman908]

not true. a shitty hotel is better than a shitty hostel. I've come across good hostels that are far better than shitty hotels.

haven't found one in london yet though.

Not saying hostels are better of course, but one thing that hostels do have over hotels is a laundry room. Many hotels don't have laundry facilities but almost all hostels do. This is a huge plus, especially if you're travelling for a while and going to a festival where you get your clothes full of dirt and mud (aka Glastonbury).

[Boourns]

You blacked out during Daft Punk? WTF

Partied too hard, I guess.

[stinkbutt]

Buying tickets and booking hostel as soon as I get home! I love you ATP

[Geno_g]

Looks intense, want a write up about this Dave.

[rage patton]

Buying tickets and booking hostel as soon as I get home! I love you ATP

Fuck yes! See you there man!

Also, I guess I need to look into PJ Harvey. I don't think I have ever listened to anything by her.

And Liars are fantastic live. I have seen them 4 times. 3 times in an outdoor setting, 1 time at a small club. The 3 times Outdoors were pretty good, but when I saw them at tiny venue earlier this year, it was incredible. It was eerie, frantic, high energy, and, at times, quite sexy. Liars are one of the big draws for me here.

[chairmenmeow47]

i'm officially not going as i got ATP NJ tickets. this show is fucking awesome, but i can't afford the plane ticket. have a blast everyone :)

[faxman75]

Yep. Ditto.

[rage patton]

Damn you ATP NJ! I was looking forward to seeing a bunch of you guys over there. Oh well. I guess Chris (sonofhal) and I will have to represent the board.

[rage patton]

Tickets officially purchased. Fuck yeah.

[rage patton]

Oh shit. So Caribou was added to this?

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_nKBYld4Yaz4/TK84xvUFWWI/AAAAAAAAAxw/cN-_oe4V4Nw/meme%20-%20Fuck%20yeah_thumb.jpg

[Spooks]

So now with these additions, I'm kinda excited for what Portishead has in mind for ATP NJ.......I mean with Liars, Swans, Godspeed, Grinderman, PJ Harvery and etc, it's already better than what Coachella has this year. I hate not being overseas sometimes during summer....

Today ATP are very pleased to announce the addition of two stunning new performances to the Sunday 24th line-up: the legendary Godspeed You! Black Emperor who only recently reformed for a string of rapturously received sold out shows, and also a special collaboration between graphic novelist Alan Moore (Watchmen, From Hell) and musician Stephen O'Malley (Sunn O))), KTL) who will respectively provide text and guitar for an expanded soundtracking of Harry Smith's 1962 animated alchemical film "Heaven & Earth Magic".

We are also pleased to confirm the first of the films that will be screened in the cinema at the event. Heading the list we are excited to present the acclaimed Submarine which will be introduced by writer/director Richard Ayoade (Saturday 23rd) and we are also thrilled to invite Mark Cousins who will introduce his documentary feature The First Movie (Sunday 24th). Other films confirmed include The Treasures of Long Gone John and three films by John Minton - Field, Jock Scott and September, with a full schedule and more films to be confirmed shortly.

[sonofhal]

Updated poster.

http://www.atpfestival.com/assets/mailout/20110723-mirrorgbig.jpg

[shakermaker113]

definitely looks better than the US counterpart right now.

[Boourns]

definitely looks better than the US counterpart right now.

Holding out hope for Grinderman.

[rage patton]

I can't believe Godspeed got added to this. This is going to be amazing. I am so happy I have tickets.

[sonofhal]

So, currently looks like this - with a couple more adds to come, apparently.

Saturday 23rd July

PORTISHEAD
PJ HARVEY
DOOM
COMPANY FLOW
THE BOOKS
FACTORY FLOOR
BLACK ROOTS
BEAK>
DD/MM/YYYY
FOOT VILLAGE
HELEN MONEY
THE LONDON SNORKELING TEAM

Saturday Cinema:

The Treasure Of Long Gone John
Submarine (introduced by Richard Ayoade)
The Searchers
Fargo
The London That Nobody Knows

Sunday 24th July

PORTISHEAD
GRINDERMAN
SWANS
GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR
BEACH HOUSE
CARIBOU
ALAN MOORE + STEPHEN O' MALLEY
LIARS
THE TELESCOPES
THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC
ANIKA
S.C.U.M.
ACOUSTIC LADYLAND
FAIRHORNS

Sunday Cinema:

The Room
The First Movie (introduced by Mark Cousins)
Cinema Iran
Easy Rider
Curling
Tonite Let's All Make Love In London
Jock Scot
Field
September

[rage patton]

I am terrified of Sunday conflicts. I just know either Godspeed, Caribou or Liars will conflict with Portishead.

[sonofhal]

Set times. None of your clashes happened, Josh.

SATURDAY

Doors open at midday - wristband collection available from 11am.

Great Hall:

4.00pm-5.00pm - DD/MM/YYYY
6.00pm-7.00pm - DOOM
7.45pm-8.45pm - PJ HARVEY
9.30pm-11.00pm - PORTISHEAD

West Hall:

1.15pm-2.15pm - BEAK>
3.00pm-4.00pm - FOOT VILLAGE
5.00pm-6.00pm - BLACK ROOTS
6.45pm-7.45pm - THE BOOKS
8.30pm-9.30pm - COMPANY FLOW
11.00pm-12.00am - FACTORY FLOOR

Panorama Room:

2.00pm-2.45pm - HELEN MONEY
4.15pm-5.15pm - THE LONDON SNORKELLING TEAM

Cinema:

1.00pm-3.00pm - THE SEARCHERS
3.30pm-5.05pm - THE TREASURE OF LONG GONE JOHN
5.30pm-7.40pm - SUBMARINE + Q&A with Richard Ayoade
8.30pm-10.10pm - FARGO
10.30pm-11.30pm - CINEMA IRAN
11.45pm-0.40am - THE LONDON THAT NOBODY KNOWS

Rose Garden:

1.00pm-1.45pm - CHARLIE MORRIS JAZZ MEN
2.15pm-3.00pm - CHARLIE MORRIS JAZZ MEN
3.30pm-4.30pm - DJ78
6.30pm-7.30pm - DJ78
8.00pm-9.00pm - NICK INTOXICA (DJ)


SUNDAY

Doors open at midday - wristband collection available from 11am.

Great Hall:

1.15pm-2.00pm - S.C.U.M
2.30pm-3.15pm - LIARS
4.00pm-5.00pm - BEACH HOUSE
5.30pm-7.00pm - SWANS
7.45pm-8.45pm - GRINDERMAN
9.30pm-11.00pm - PORTISHEAD

West Hall:

12.30pm-2.30pm - GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR
3.30pm-5.00pm - THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC
5.15pm-6.00pm - ANIKA
7.00pm-7.30pm - ALAN MOORE & STEPHEN O'MALLEY
8.45pm-9.30pm - THE TELESCOPES
11.00pm-12.00am - CARIBOU

Panorama Room:

2.30pm-3.15pm - FAIRHORNS
4.45pm-5.30pm - ACOUSTIC LADYLAND

Cinema:

1.00pm-2.35pm - EASY RIDER
3.00pm-4.35pm - CURLING
5.00pm-5.25pm - SEPTEMBER
5.30pm-7.30pm - THE FIRST MOVIE + Q&A with Mark Cousins
8.00pm-8.30pm - JOCK SCOTT
8.45pm-8.55pm - FIELD
9.15pm-10.25pm - TONITE LET'S ALL MAKE LOVE IN LONDON
11.00pm-12.40am - THE ROOM

Rose Garden:

1.00pm-2.00pm - DJ78
3.45pm-4.45pm - DJ78
5.00pm-5.45pm - CHARLIE MORRIS JAZZ MEN
6.15pm-7.00pm - CHARLIE MORRIS JAZZ MEN
7.00pm-9.00pm - NICK INTOXICA (DJ)

[Gribbz]

Ugh, the UK line-up is so much more appealing than New Jersey's.


ONE DAY.

[rage patton]

Holy shit the set times are fantastic. Godspeed opening the second stage!?!? This is going to be amazing.

[getbetter]

Wow I hope they show Easy Rider at IBYM New Jersey.

[wmgaretjax]

Swans -> O'Malley -> Grinderman is fucking fierce.

[SoulDischarge]

PJ Harvey/Company Flow conflict. Fuccccccck that.

[sonofhal]

15 min conflict is hardly the end of the world.

[whiney]

seriously. go to both, duder.

[SoulDischarge]

Heh. Yeah. You're right. I don't know how I read that. It's not like I'm going to this thing anyway. Man, starting your day with GYBE is pretty crazy.

[rage patton]

They changed up the set times a bit. Caribou play at 11:20 instead of 11:00 now... which is pretty sweet. Now I wont have to leave Portishead 15 minutes early on Night 2 to get a good spot for Caribou. I am really excited for this. I have heard a lot about how great ATP festivals are, and now I finally get to experience one.

[fikus222]

Lucky bastard ;)

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

I can't wait to hear reports and see photos! WOOP WOOP

[stinkbutt]

Someone please go see Alan Moore & Steven O'Mailey, take lots of pictures and notes. I wanna hear about that crazy set

[sonofhal]

Yesterday was pretty good, musicwise - but the organisation was fucking terrible. Random one way systems, huge queues for toilets and food (for the stalls that hadn't closed early because they had none left). Luckily you could leave the venue, as it was your only real choice for grabbing a snack without losing an hour of your day.

Thought Forms, a late addition, were my set of the day - closely followed by Company Flow and Factory Floor. Portishead were pretty damn excellent too. Nice to see Beth chill out a bit - running around the pit and high fiving everyone at the rail.

[rage patton]

I'm going to go see the first 15 minutes of Moore & O'Malley, then gonna head over to get a good spot for Grinderman. I'll let you know how it is.

Also, Portishead were amazing last night. Far and beyond the best act of the day. Lots of good acts though. It has a cool vibe as well... but yesterday wasn't organized very well. There was kind of a one way flow you had to follow and it takes and unnecessarily long time to get from room to room. Hopefully they fix that up today.

All in all though, yesterday was a fun day and I enjoyed myself quite a bit. Today was the day I was looking forward to the most, so I am pretty stoked.

EDIT: Haha, what Chris said.

[sonofhal]

Some pics wot I took, innit.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/284079_10150324023346999_665226998_9870453_5647890 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284691_10150324023661999_665226998_9870456_6871980 _n.jpg
Godspeed

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185427_10150324023821999_665226998_9870460_2151367 _n.jpg
Liars

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/206202_10150324024066999_665226998_9870467_618080_ n.jpg
Swans

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/184144_10150324024286999_665226998_9870470_1568966 _n.jpg
Alan Moore

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249997_10150324024481999_665226998_9870472_1413940 _n.jpg
The Telescopes

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249335_10150324024726999_665226998_9870476_4070236 _n.jpg
Portishead

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251721_10150324024906999_665226998_9870480_7925968 _n.jpg
Caribou

[SoulDischarge]

Those are great. Pretty jealous.

[getbetter]

WHAT DID ALAN MOORE SAY?

http://irkedmagazine.com/wanderingagoraphobe/leah/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/boy_screaming.jpg

[Boourns]

http://www.atpfestival.com/events/ibymlondon2012/news/1111091500.php

http://www.atpfestival.com/sized/files/img/events/20120525-ibyml1_670x0.jpg

[Spooks]

http://www.atpfestival.com/events/ibymlondon2012/news/1111091500.php

http://www.atpfestival.com/sized/files/img/events/20120525-ibyml1_670x0.jpg

and Primavera goes down 5/30-6/3 ahhhhh!!! I wonder if there will be any bands playing both since ATP curates one of Primavera stages......

[Spooks]

This will be Mogwai's third time curating ATP:)

UK 2000 - curated by Mogwai 7-8-9/4/2000. Lineup:

…And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead, Alfie, Aphex Twin, Arab Strap, Bardo Pond, Clinic, Ganger, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, Hood, Labradford + Pan American, Laika, Ligament, Mice Parade, Mogwai, Motor Life Co., Pan American, Plaid, Plone, Pram, Radar Brothers, Scott 4, Shellac, Sigur Rós, Snow Patrol, Sonic Youth, Sophia, Stereolab, Super Furry Animals, Tarwater, Ten Benson, The Delgados, The For Carnation, The High Llamas, Two Dollar Guitar, Wire

UK 2004 The Director's Cut Weekend One - curated by Mogwai/Tortoise/Shellac26-27-28/3/2004. Lineup:

A Whisper in the Noise, Acid Mothers Temple, Arcwelder, Atombombpocketknife, Azita, Bobby Conn, Boredoms, Botnledja, Cat Power, Cex, Converge, Dead Meadow, Entrance, Envy, French Toast, Growing, Isis, James Orr Complex, Kid606, Lightning Bolt, Luke Haines (cancelled), Lungfish, McLusky, Mike Watt + The Jom and Terry Show, Mike Watt + The Secondmen, Mogwai, Nobukazu Takemura + Aki Tsuyuko, Papa M, Part Chimp, Phillip Roebuck, Prefuse 73, Shellac, Sonic Boom, Stinking Lizaveta, Sun City Girls, Supersilent, The Dishes, The Seconds, Todd, Tortoise, Trans Am, Turbonegro, Uzeda

[suprefan]

and Primavera goes down 5/30-6/3 ahhhhh!!! I wonder if there will be any bands playing both since ATP curates one of Primavera stages......

Yes, its had a decent amount of crossover.

[sonofhal]

No big crossover last year as the 2 fests were 2 months apart.