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moviebruin
10-29-2010, 09:47 AM
"The trio, who are being tipped as a potential Coachella dance tent headliner in 2011"

http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/a-sneak-peek-at-the-swedish-house-mafia-doc-take-one/23049

After seeing them in vegas and ibiza and how they command the crowd, I have no doubt they are worthy of a slot closing out the sahara. Masquerade Tent 2011!

Distorted_Jungle
10-29-2010, 09:50 AM
DO IT! I thought they were a possibility last year and was requesting them, this year I view it as mandatory and am still requesting it.

bobchella
10-29-2010, 09:53 AM
Um do they mean "tipped" or "tapped" ? Usage of "Tipped" seems to mean rumored right?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tipped

Mr. Porter
10-29-2010, 09:56 AM
they're only getting bigger here in the states. but i deplore if they conflict with daft

FreshLaundry
10-29-2010, 10:40 AM
Saturday night main stage closer!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brochella
10-29-2010, 10:51 AM
They make more sense than anybody else at this point, and they're leagues better than Deadmau5/Guetta/Kaskade/Tiesto. A Swedish House Mafia > Faithless Friday night would be so much fun!

vinylmartyr
10-29-2010, 11:24 AM
schedule conflicts not likely I hear

Distorted_Jungle
10-29-2010, 11:49 AM
Saturday night main stage closer!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you fuckin kidding me? Sahara or nothing, dj's on the main stage is just dumb.

bobchella
10-29-2010, 11:50 AM
schedule conflicts not likely I hear

Do you mean
schedule conflicts, not likely I hear
Or
schedule conflicts not likely, I hear
?

guedita
10-29-2010, 11:52 AM
You all realize that they are being "tipped" by this very message board, right?

bobchella
10-29-2010, 12:20 PM
^ Haha, yes

GuyInTucson
10-29-2010, 12:21 PM
I'm probably one of the few here that doesn't get excited about Swedish House Mafia. They're good, but every live set I hear from them, they might as well call themselves Swedish Early-2000's Progressive Trance Mafia.

daftmau5
10-29-2010, 12:32 PM
They're good, but every live set I hear from them, they might as well call themselves Swedish Early-2000's Progressive Trance Mafia.

yup. i like their individual songs (angello's knas, etc) but as a trio their taste seems to lean more toward trance. i still think they'd put on a good show.

andersunnO)))
10-29-2010, 12:56 PM
I don't really understand the praise that these guys get.

bobchella
10-29-2010, 01:26 PM
The less trance the better!!

vinylmartyr
10-29-2010, 01:39 PM
??????????? A mystery

bobchella
10-29-2010, 01:55 PM
Out with it!

captncrzy
10-29-2010, 02:15 PM
You all realize that they are being "tipped" by this very message board, right?

Ring a ding ding ding dong

paulb
10-29-2010, 02:19 PM
So, what do these guys sound like? How is their live show? Youtube link please....

Distorted_Jungle
10-29-2010, 02:19 PM
Trance? What sets have you been listening too? The Creamfields set from this year is not trance and either was the EDC set, somewhat dated progressive I can agree with, but trance is something I don't hear in their sets.

tmac
10-29-2010, 02:21 PM
i had a fucking blast in the coliseum seeing them at EDC. not sure why everyone is saying they play trance.


EDC:
01. Sander van Doorn - Reach out w/ SHM & LBL feat. Deborah Cox - Leave The World Behind
02. Michael Jackson - Thriller /w Denis The Menace & Big World - The First Rebirth (Original Mix)
03. Hard Rock Sofa & St. Brothers - Blow Up w/ Pocket808- Ghost Ship (Hook N Sling Remix) /w Pump Up The Jam (Acapella)
04. Eurythmics - Sweet Draems w/ Pocket808- Ghost Ship (Hook N Sling Remix) /w Steve Angello & An21- Valodja
05. TV Rock feat. Rudy - In The Air (Axwell Remix)
06. Justice vs. Simian - We Are Friends (Chris Moody Mix)
07. Prok and Fitch Pres. Nanchang Nancy - Axwell vs. Daddy's Groove Remix
08. Dani L Mebius & Billy The Kit - Work This Pussy (Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike Remix) /w Afrojack - Pacha On Acid
09. ID
10. 2000 One - Spanish Fly (Butch Remix) w/ Calvin Harris - Flashback
11. Carl Louis & Martin Danielle - The Message w/ Axwell & Dirty South - Open Your Heart (Accapella)
12. Sebastian Ingrosso - Kidsos (Original Mix)
13. Steve Angello & Laidback Luke - Be vs Satisfaction (Swedish House Mafia Bootleg) /w Mescal Kid - Knas /w The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army /w Show Me Love vs Be (Hardwell remix)
14. ID
15. The Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up (AN21 & Max Vangeli Bootleg)
16. Steve Angello - Rave n' Roll (Ingrosso Geht's Noch Edit) /w Calabria
17. Boysnoize Vs. Shapeshifters - Death Suite Vs. Lola's Theme (Chuckie's Sensation Brasil Bootleg)
18. ID
19. Funkerman Feat. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Otherside 2010
20. Adrian Lux - Teenage Crime (Axwell & Henrik B Remode)(id Edit)
21. Miike Snow - Silvia (Sebastian Ingrosso & Dirty South Remix)
22. Axwell - I Found U (Dubfire Rimix) /w C-Mos - 2 Million Ways (Axwell Remix)
23. The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony w/ ID w/ Supermode - Tell Me Why w/ Sebastien Drums, Eric G, Tom Geiss - Funky Beep
24. ID
25. Daft Punk - One More Time (Ingrosso Edit)
27. Swedish House Mafia feat. Pharrell - One (Your Name) /w Calabria /w id

GuyInTucson
10-29-2010, 02:54 PM
Considering I am not the only one who believes SHM borders on trance, it's not all that far-fetched.

Look, a lot of this stuff you guys call "progressive house" nowadays was shit a lot referred to as trance or progressive trance when I started going to parties back in '98.

Somewhere along the way, that changed. I heard people call the crap Dirty South played at Coachella "Progressive house" and a lot of it sounded like slow trance. When I think "Progressive House", I think of DJ's like Sasha and Digweed or Sander Kleinenberg, not acts like SHM or Dirty South.

Shit, the first producer in that track listing is a techno/trance producer.

A lot of today's electro borders on the lines of UK Hard House / NRG and Trance as well.

Nonetheless, when I listen to a SHM set, I hear about 60% cheese most times

tmac
10-29-2010, 03:14 PM
well yes its definitely a lot of cheese. the masses love cheese. take a look at the top of the dj poll.

GuyInTucson
10-29-2010, 03:31 PM
well yes its definitely a lot of cheese. the masses love cheese. take a look at the top of the dj poll.

No thanks. DJ polls have been useless for years. But I get your point.

juloxx
10-29-2010, 04:19 PM
I don't really understand the praise that these guys get.

Naaa your not alone. I just think the reason why everyone is on their nuts as of late is because they played the mainstage at EDC. Every artist that does that gets a lot of buzz for the following couple of months, good or not. I mean when you are on drugs (which a good amount of the folks are on at EDC) your going to think every set is epic as fuck. Then heads start obsess over it and create a lot of commotion.

I myself dont really know too much about them so I am not at a good place to judge them, but it does sound quite cheesy & generic from what I have heard


well yes its definitely a lot of cheese. the masses love cheese. take a look at the top of the dj poll.

And thats why they put David Guetta at #2. Such shit. If anything we need less of this cornball mass appealing gobilty gook. Hell you should only be allowed to play Coachella if your not on DJ Mags top 10.

Distorted_Jungle
10-29-2010, 04:40 PM
And thats why they put David Guetta at #2. Such shit. If anything we need less of this cornball mass appealing gobilty gook. Hell you should only be allowed to play Coachella if your not on DJ Mags top 10.

Since some cheese is always there though it might as well be these guys.

303dubbin
10-30-2010, 09:03 AM
^ i just think its crazy all 3 of the guys are in the top 20 and the SHM is like... 20 something too. dont really care cuz only a handful of djs i actually care about are on that list, and none are in the top 10.

kronz420
10-30-2010, 01:48 PM
I also dont understand all the hype for these guys .. I tried to like them I really did but they play the same songs everytime and they always get on the mic and say the dumbest shit. I also agree that they are closer to trance with little sprinkles of house thrown in here and there

choice cat
10-30-2010, 01:56 PM
lets be honest though, do you guys really want to hear "leave the world behind" and "one" for the millionth time this april ? SHM is cool, and they bring a really awesome party but can't we agree on something new ?

Cuddlesthesheep
10-31-2010, 03:00 PM
lets be honest though, do you guys really want to hear "leave the world behind" and "one" for the millionth time this april ? SHM is cool, and they bring a really awesome party but can't we agree on something new ?

yes.. yes i do.

choice cat
10-31-2010, 05:25 PM
yes.. yes i do.

i'm sorry.

Cuddlesthesheep
10-31-2010, 06:14 PM
i'm sorry.

oh, no need to apologize.

choice cat
10-31-2010, 06:48 PM
i wasn't apologizing for what I said, but rather the fact that you will still want to hear that shit today, but even more so 5 months from now.

thefrush
10-31-2010, 09:09 PM
i wasn't apologizing for what I said, but rather the fact that you will still want to hear that shit today, but even more so 5 months from now.

Five and a half. Don't get me so excited.

Mr. Porter
10-31-2010, 09:23 PM
yes.. yes i do.
Hell yeah

Cuddlesthesheep
11-01-2010, 09:55 AM
i wasn't apologizing for what I said, but rather the fact that you will still want to hear that shit today, but even more so 5 months from now.

i'm sorry but either way in 5 1/2 months in the sahara music will be playing that i have heard hundreds of times already.. so i wouldn't mind if it were SHM's songs that i've heard hundreds of times already.

again, no need to apologize.

GuyInTucson
11-01-2010, 12:00 PM
I wouldn't be upset if Swedish Almost-Trance Mafia gets booked, but I will most likely be at another stage at that moment. They aren't bad; just a little too cheesy for my taste. Coachella could do a lot better as far as a Sahara headliner is concerned.

ELECtROjan
11-01-2010, 08:35 PM
These guys are the best at what they do and its not even close. The skill, production, and entire musical experience that we witnessed last night in Vegas tops anything I've seen

choice cat
11-03-2010, 12:17 AM
is it possible they could get the tiesto slot from last year and do mainstage ? wouldn't they feel they deserve that ?

Boourns
11-03-2010, 12:39 AM
They gotta pay their dues in the Sahara first.

ELECtROjan
11-03-2010, 07:47 AM
is it possible they could get the tiesto slot from last year and do mainstage ? wouldn't they feel they deserve that ?

We were thinking about this after their Vegas show. The Sahara would be so fucking packed that it wouldnt surprise me to see them on the main. I would guess if that did happen it would be after Arcade Fire.

SDsoldier7
11-03-2010, 08:03 AM
These guys are the best at what they do and its not even close. The skill, production, and entire musical experience that we witnessed last night in Vegas tops anything I've seen

did tiesto really make a guest appearence. :D


this vid right here makes them look like they play trance type music.

l0mNA9PGG78

Distorted_Jungle
11-03-2010, 08:04 AM
I would want them in the Sahara though, packed as it may be, it's the right place for it. I just think the Main Stage lacks the atmosphere the Sahara has and it wouldn't be the same on the main. I'll watch their set anywhere on the polo fields, I just think it would be better in the Sahara.

SDsoldier7
11-03-2010, 08:09 AM
^sahara would be better for the visuals


is it possible they could get the tiesto slot from last year and do mainstage ? wouldn't they feel they deserve that ?

Why do you put a space before your question marks?

bobchella
11-03-2010, 10:01 AM
Sahara seems like a no brainer to me

Mr. Porter
11-03-2010, 10:36 AM
I think a Coachella appearance will be their first time performing at a music festival besides massives. I could be wrong though

Distorted_Jungle
11-03-2010, 11:05 AM
I think a Coachella appearance will be their first time performing at a music festival besides massives. I could be wrong though

They have played Ultra the last 2 years.

Cuddlesthesheep
11-03-2010, 12:34 PM
did tiesto really make a guest appearence. :D


this vid right here makes them look like they play trance type music.

l0mNA9PGG78

First song is their newest single Miami 2 Ibiza.
Second song is One.
pretty much the definition of Swedish House..

not trance.

Did you not know either of these songs?

kronz420
11-03-2010, 12:37 PM
not house thats for sure lol

Mr. Porter
11-03-2010, 12:38 PM
They have played Ultra the last 2 years.
I mean eclectic music festivals

Cuddlesthesheep
11-03-2010, 12:38 PM
Swedish house, that's for sure.

kronz420
11-03-2010, 07:09 PM
swedish house lmao ....coughtrancecough

ELECtROjan
11-03-2010, 07:18 PM
swedish house lmao ....coughtrancecough

trance.
jNqT3yLZ9aw

TxvpctgU_s8

OPKQKX5JWqY

not trance.
iy5zMc9xrfg

Q1EOGzzLy8U


stop making stupid comments.

ELECtROjan
11-03-2010, 07:31 PM
did tiesto really make a guest appearence. :D

l0mNA9PGG78


He was on stage with them for a bit and then spun alongside Angello and AN21 at the afterparty that went from 4-7:30am. Dirty South made an appearance as well

kronz420
11-03-2010, 07:32 PM
stop trying to force shitty music on coachella lol... I really dont care if they play coachella or not If they do I will be elsewhere and you and your bros can fist pump and do the nordic track

kronz420
11-03-2010, 07:33 PM
Wait tiesto played? .... you lose lol

ELECtROjan
11-03-2010, 07:34 PM
stop trying to force shitty music on coachella lol... I really dont care if they play coachella or not If they do I will be elsewhere and you and your bros can fist pump and do the nordic track

Who could possibly fulfill your perfect, non shitty, three headliner spots? And please make them practical

Boourns
11-03-2010, 08:04 PM
stop trying to force shitty music on coachella lol... I really dont care if they play coachella or not If they do I will be elsewhere and you and your bros can fist pump and do the nordic track

Jersey House Mafia

boarderwoozel3
11-03-2010, 08:21 PM
These guys slay. Get over it.

tmac
11-03-2010, 09:04 PM
you and your bros can fist pump
just cause every other dude is fist pumping doesnt mean you have to.


These guys slay. Get over it.

choice cat
11-03-2010, 09:07 PM
^sahara would be better for the visuals



Why do you put a space before your question marks?

I really don't know, never noticed I did that. haha

SDsoldier7
11-03-2010, 09:19 PM
I really don't know, never noticed I did that. haha

I thought it was funny too. You aren't consistent either, look:


deerhunter tomorrow . fuck yeah !


i'm sorry.


yes, please please please. what could interpol expect to be billed at , if playing coachella again ?


glad to hear it richard, i am envious of your 20 shows!

maybe you should work on this

choice cat
11-03-2010, 10:56 PM
haha i'll look into it.

Cuddlesthesheep
11-03-2010, 11:04 PM
stop trying to force shitty music on coachella lol... I really dont care if they play coachella or not If they do I will be elsewhere and you and your bros can fist pump and do the nordic track

FOOL YOU CROSSED DA LINE!!
GTFO!

kronz420
11-04-2010, 02:51 AM
4hJXJAqoPDI
This is what you want? Really?

SDsoldier7
11-04-2010, 05:36 AM
haha i'll look into it.

werd.

unknown
11-04-2010, 08:20 AM
Bwahahaha I haven't heard the term nordic track in years.

SDsoldier7
11-04-2010, 08:38 AM
definately fist-pump nordic-trak music

andersunnO)))
11-04-2010, 10:21 AM
4hJXJAqoPDI
This is what you want? Really?

Who's doing the mixing when all three of these douche bags just stand on the table and put there hands in the air the whole time?

Bud Luster
11-04-2010, 10:40 AM
I really can't stand it when it takes 3-4 suckas to do the job of one decent DJ (not even a good dj, just a decent one)

Cuddlesthesheep
11-04-2010, 11:11 AM
Who's doing the mixing when all three of these douche bags just stand on the table and put there hands in the air the whole time?

it's their last and most popular song.. they are letting it play out..

Cuddlesthesheep
11-04-2010, 11:12 AM
I really can't stand it when it takes 3-4 suckas to do the job of one decent DJ (not even a good dj, just a decent one)

you're saying axwell, ingrosso, and angello are not even good dj's and are suckas?

jesus christ.

Bud Luster
11-04-2010, 11:22 AM
If it takes all 3 of them to put together the mixes and performances I have heard from them then yes they are fucking chump suckas.

Distorted_Jungle
11-04-2010, 11:29 AM
If it takes all 3 of them to put together the mixes and performances I have heard from them then yes they are fucking chump suckas.

It doesn't take all three of them to do it, their individual sets are good too. This is just something they chose to do together and draws a bigger crowd than each would individually.

Bud Luster
11-04-2010, 11:39 AM
I'd bet no one could differentiate a set by just one of them from a set by all three.

djandrews25
11-04-2010, 11:54 AM
I liked steve angello better than axwell, and yes these guys deserve to headline the sahara one night next year.

Bud Luster
11-04-2010, 12:03 PM
Despite my shitty attitude, I'm actually ok with these guys playing and even headlining a night.

tmac
11-04-2010, 12:34 PM
Despite my shitty attitude, I'm actually ok with these guys playing and even headlining a night.
after all the haterade you have been drinking i wouldnt have expected you to say this.

Bud Luster
11-04-2010, 12:38 PM
Seriously, it doesn't take 3 guys to do what they are doing. It's overkill. It doesn't make the music or the show any better.

djandrews25
11-04-2010, 12:41 PM
True, but the 3 of them have been producing a ton of great tracks together.

Bud Luster
11-04-2010, 12:52 PM
I'm sure my tune will change after I disco my ass off to their set.

Distorted_Jungle
11-04-2010, 12:58 PM
We've established that it doesn't take all 3 of them to do it, but who gives a shit as long as the set is good? I don't want them to be there because what they do is amazing or groundbreaking, i want them there because they are a fun set that's better than any other cheese act coachella could book.

Bud Luster
11-04-2010, 01:07 PM
Ok. If we are talking in terms of cheese, I definitely prefer theirs to any others. Every set doesn't have to be amazing or groundbreaking, just fun and body moving. That's why I said my tune would probably change after seeing them.

Cuddlesthesheep
11-04-2010, 03:47 PM
Swedish House Mafia are the kings of cheese house.. and i love cheese house.. maybe why i have a soft spot for Kaskade.

spiggums
11-04-2010, 04:04 PM
On one hand I want to declare that this is an awful idea.

On the other I realize that it's really no worse than having had Tiesto, Deadmau5, David Guetta or Kaskade last year. I was able to avoid all of those without issue, and I suppose there needs to be something for people lacking in taste. Thankfully, there's four other stages to choose from should they play.

Distorted_Jungle
11-04-2010, 04:36 PM
On one hand I want to declare that this is an awful idea.

On the other I realize that it's really no worse than having had Tiesto, Deadmau5, David Guetta or Kaskade last year. I was able to avoid all of those without issue, and I suppose there needs to be something for people lacking in taste. Thankfully, there's four other stages to choose from should they play.

I'm sure your schedule every year is full of the most tasteful acts at coachella, I wish I was as cool as you.

spiggums
11-04-2010, 05:19 PM
I wish I was as cool as you.

You may never be... but it's good to have goals.

Seriously though, I know taste is subjective and all, but David Guetta and Swedish House Mafia are easily the two worst things happening in dance music right now. Yet, I recognize that there's mass appeal there (and that's not to say that all which has mass appeal is bad, it just happens to coincide in these cases), and, as such, understand and appreciate why they would get booked at an event like Coachella.

But, hey, like I said, there's four other stages to choose from, so you don't have to worry about haters like me ruining your fun.

boarderwoozel3
11-04-2010, 05:37 PM
Nonsense, SHM as a unit and as individuals are far better DJs than Guetta. You trippin, boo.

ELECtROjan
11-04-2010, 06:44 PM
On the other I realize that it's really no worse than having had Tiesto, Deadmau5, David Guetta or Kaskade last year. I was able to avoid all of those without issue, and I suppose there needs to be something for people lacking in taste. Thankfully, there's four other stages to choose from should they play.

have you seen any of these artists dj before?

Wheres the beef?
11-04-2010, 06:47 PM
Spiggums has a really good point.

ELECtROjan
11-04-2010, 06:47 PM
I'd bet no one could differentiate a set by just one of them from a set by all three.

I thought this also but just looked over set lists from the past year or so. Angello is around 70% similar, Axwell 50%, and Ingrosso 30% or so. I'm seeing Ingrosso this weekend so I'll see how accurate his new set is....

Wheres the beef?
11-04-2010, 06:50 PM
I thought this also but just looked over set lists from the past year or so. Angello is around 70% similar, Axwell 50%, and Ingrosso 30% or so. I'm seeing Ingrosso this weekend so I'll see how accurate his new set is....

No its more like:

Angello 77%
Axwell 68%
Ingrosso 82%

Cuddlesthesheep
11-04-2010, 09:24 PM
Seriously though, I know taste is subjective and all, but David Guetta and Swedish House Mafia are easily the two worst things happening in dance music right now.

linking guetta and SHM...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2vb3ec7.jpg

beeerplease
11-04-2010, 10:43 PM
Loved Angello at Nocturnal. Can definitely see myself Sahara raging at the end of Friday or Saturday to SHM :)

ELECtROjan
11-04-2010, 10:59 PM
No its more like:

Angello 77%
Axwell 68%
Ingrosso 82%

= 100% party

... we must have looked at different sets

ELECtROjan
11-04-2010, 11:00 PM
and who would YOU like to see then Ryan?

Wheres the beef?
11-04-2010, 11:02 PM
linking guetta and SHM...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2vb3ec7.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/mavrzs.jpg

kayeM
11-04-2010, 11:14 PM
i am a big EDM fan and would like to see some one else besides SHM.. they are just getting played out.. i saw steve angello a few years ago and he ROCKED it.. but i would much prefer to see other acts at coachella..

i am also willing to admit their style is progressive house boarding on trance..

traditional house music is much more funky.. their music has a lot of atmospheric synths similar to trance.. they aren't bad.. that is just their style..

Wheres the beef?
11-04-2010, 11:19 PM
and who would YOU like to see then Ryan?

Moderat
Birdy Nam Nam
Mr. Oizo
Tiga
Soulwax
James Zabiela
Sasha & Digweed
Adam Freeland
Booka Shade
Ellen Allien
Fake Blood
Jack Beats
Boys Noize
Modeselektor
Apparat
Simian Mobile Disco (live or DJ set)
PANTyRAID
Amon Tobin
Digitalism
Ladytron (although I think they would be a Mojave type act)
Fake Blood
Kid Koala
Silicone Soul
Umek
DJ Shadow
Vitalic

grannock
11-04-2010, 11:33 PM
I've seen half of those acts this year, and while that is a nice list of throwdown EDM, very few on that list are headliners.

As long as SHM doesn't play gay trance the entire time, it should be a solid headliner.

Wheres the beef?
11-04-2010, 11:47 PM
I'd rather have a solid lineup with consistently good acts back-to-back-to-back than to endure some garbage act while i wait for a headliner. Better to spread the wealth around instead of going all out for some big $$$ act that will also play shitty music than having mediocre music all day because they couldnt afford anything else. I could have listed the obvious chemical brothers/prodigy/underworld/daft punk but I saw chem bros already, have no interest in prodigy or underworld, and daft punk is played out.

Something like 2008 where it was Chromeo > SMD > Modeselektor (or some variation of that ). Although I could do without the Chromeo but you get what I'm saying.

And Moderat would headline.

weezy f baby
11-05-2010, 01:33 AM
your mom is progressive house

Distorted_Jungle
11-05-2010, 09:25 AM
Moderat
Birdy Nam Nam
Mr. Oizo
Tiga
Soulwax
James Zabiela
Sasha & Digweed
Adam Freeland
Booka Shade
Ellen Allien
Fake Blood
Jack Beats
Boys Noize
Modeselektor
Apparat
Simian Mobile Disco (live or DJ set)
PANTyRAID
Amon Tobin
Digitalism
Ladytron (although I think they would be a Mojave type act)
Fake Blood
Kid Koala
Silicone Soul
Umek
DJ Shadow
Vitalic

:thu

Silicone Soul is what I'm actually listening to right now haha, would be awesome to get them on the Polo Fields.

spiggums
11-05-2010, 09:52 AM
have you seen any of these artists dj before?

All but Guetta.

spiggums
11-05-2010, 09:54 AM
Moderat
Birdy Nam Nam
Mr. Oizo
Tiga
Soulwax
James Zabiela
Sasha & Digweed
Adam Freeland
Booka Shade
Ellen Allien
Fake Blood
Jack Beats
Boys Noize
Modeselektor
Apparat
Simian Mobile Disco (live or DJ set)
PANTyRAID
Amon Tobin
Digitalism
Ladytron (although I think they would be a Mojave type act)
Fake Blood
Kid Koala
Silicone Soul
Umek
DJ Shadow
Vitalic

Would love to see Modeselektor there, they killed it at Virgin Freefest this year.

thewoodenman
11-05-2010, 10:15 AM
i too saw these guys in vegas on halloween night, and i gotta say, i wasn't really expecting much or excited but ended up having a KILLER night and really enjoyed it. i'm down with seeing them because like everyone else is saying, they are much better than most alternatives and we know there will have to be someone like this there, so why not them? do iiiit

dorkfish
11-05-2010, 11:22 AM
Moderat won't be there. Their last live gig until 2013 is at the Bloc weekend in March.

Wheres the beef?
11-05-2010, 12:33 PM
Moderat won't be there. Their last live gig until 2013 is at the Bloc weekend in March.

I know. But I won't give up asking for it.

grannock
11-05-2010, 01:29 PM
I'd rather have a solid lineup with consistently good acts back-to-back-to-back than to endure some garbage act while i wait for a headliner. Better to spread the wealth around instead of going all out for some big $$$ act that will also play shitty music than having mediocre music all day because they couldnt afford anything else.

I agree with this 150%, but unfortunately it seems that many producers still cling to the notion that rounding out the lineup isn't always as big of a sell as a name that all the kids want. The reason I flew 3000 miles last year was because Coachella had such a solid ticket all 3 days. JayZ Muse and Gorrilaz wasn't what excited me or a good portion of the people that sold the place out. Do the producers realize this? Its hard to tell. Coachella had a great rounded lineup, but Bonaroo and Lolla both played into the "Lets book big names and it will be great" philosophy which ultimately failed in comparison (neither sold out). Hopefully the people in charge are catching on and we will see the approach that gives diverse music fans 36 hours of throwdown.

heart cooks brain
11-05-2010, 01:38 PM
Lolla didn't sell out, but it sold more tickets than coachella. Not that that says anything either way about quality of the fest.

grannock
11-06-2010, 11:37 AM
Is that true? Coachella sold like 75k-80k all 3 days, thats more than lolla sold in 2008. I checked and I could have bought tickets all weekend for Lolla, I think it would have been sold out if they hit 80k.

heart cooks brain
11-06-2010, 12:11 PM
Lolla raised the capacity to 85k with an icrease in acreage. They reported a total attendance of 249,000. I'm almost positive Coachella capped tickets at 75k, totalling 225k for all three days. (Not counting peeps with fake tickets/fence jumpers etc.)

Lolla is cheaper and much more accessible, so that factors in also.

heart cooks brain
11-06-2010, 12:15 PM
Lolla raised the capacity to 85k with an icrease in acreage. They reported a total attendance of 249,000. I'm almost positive Coachella capped tickets at 75k, totalling 225k for all three days. (Not counting peeps with fake tickets/fence jumpers etc.)

Lolla is cheaper and much more accessible, so that factors in also.

Wheres the beef?
11-07-2010, 04:02 AM
It seriously pains me that any of you would entertain the thought of thinking swedish cheese mafia would be a sahara headliner and this wouldn't


Q5KORjvZY6A


Tell me. Seriously. This is not a headliner? Why are we settling for less here? Do I need to post more proof?

I suppose I can post all the youtubes I want and you can sit there at your computer watching it, trying to understand it, or we can watch it on your big screen tv with the sound system cranked and you can look me in eye and tell me with a straight face that you would rather see something else and that there is something else out there right now that is better.


SHM:

http://www.personalfinanceanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/maca.jpg

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2010, 07:56 AM
Anybody got some linkage to some live sets from these guys?

Cuddlesthesheep
11-07-2010, 08:01 AM
It seriously pains me that any of you would entertain the thought of thinking swedish cheese mafia would be a sahara headliner and this wouldn't


Q5KORjvZY6A


Tell me. Seriously. This is not a headliner? Why are we settling for less here? Do I need to post more proof?

I suppose I can post all the youtubes I want and you can sit there at your computer watching it, trying to understand it, or we can watch it on your big screen tv with the sound system cranked and you can look me in eye and tell me with a straight face that you would rather see something else and that there is something else out there right now that is better.


SHM:

http://www.personalfinanceanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/maca.jpg

ok ill explain.
A. Moderat is good, very good, but does not have the kind of draw that SHM has. SHM is a much more appropriate headliner than moderat.
B. I believe moderat has already said that they won't be touring for quite some time.
C. I don't like the dudes fedora.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2010, 08:18 AM
It seriously pains me that any of you would entertain the thought of thinking swedish cheese mafia would be a sahara headliner and this wouldn't


Q5KORjvZY6A


Tell me. Seriously. This is not a headliner? Why are we settling for less here? Do I need to post more proof?

I suppose I can post all the youtubes I want and you can sit there at your computer watching it, trying to understand it, or we can watch it on your big screen tv with the sound system cranked and you can look me in eye and tell me with a straight face that you would rather see something else and that there is something else out there right now that is better.


SHM:

http://www.personalfinanceanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/maca.jpg

They're not going to have a "headliner" nobody's fucking heard of.

Not to mention how absurd it is to suggest that a set like this would somehow be more enjoyable if it was a "headlining" set.

Cuddlesthesheep
11-07-2010, 08:48 AM
They're not going to have a "headliner" nobody's fucking heard of.

Not to mention how absurd it is to suggest that a set like this would somehow be more enjoyable if it was a "headlining" set.

QFT.

ELECtROjan
11-07-2010, 11:58 AM
Anybody got some linkage to some live sets from these guys?

BBC Essential Mix LIVE from Creamfields 2010 (http://www.mediafire.com/?vfsn8ds5lv5uvb0)

Sirius XM Broadcast LIVE from EDC 2010 (http://www.mediafire.com/?nzmwn0mnhdw)

Both similar but the Creamfields set is less pop (MJ, Satisfaction, etc) and more rave. They always seem to play a similar tracklist but mix the songs differently. In vegas they played for two and a half hours though so we got a different show altogether.

ELECtROjan
11-07-2010, 12:21 PM
Moderat
Birdy Nam Nam
Mr. Oizo
Tiga
Soulwax
James Zabiela
Sasha & Digweed
Adam Freeland
Booka Shade
Ellen Allien
Fake Blood
Jack Beats
Boys Noize
Modeselektor
Apparat
Simian Mobile Disco (live or DJ set)
PANTyRAID
Amon Tobin
Digitalism
Ladytron (although I think they would be a Mojave type act)
Fake Blood
Kid Koala
Silicone Soul
Umek
DJ Shadow
Vitalic

Who would be the headliners? I was absolutely love this Sahara, but it is no way popular enough to make economic sense.....

spiggums
11-07-2010, 01:43 PM
Who would be the headliners? I was absolutely love this Sahara, but it is no way popular enough to make economic sense.....

I think there is only one name on that list which would have been headliner level in the states at a time, S&D. But I think that time has long since passed. A few others would definitely be headliner level in Europe... but not in the states, even at an event like Coachella.

That said, that's another solid thing about acts like SHM & Guetta (and, yes, they definitely belong in the same category despite folks trying to act like they don't) at these sorts of things. Take a lineup like the one posted above, switch out a couple of the names with some "douchebag house" acts. These acts have the advantage of luring in people who are newer to the dance scene and haven't really explored the variety of sounds that are out there. Give them a reason to come, and they'll get exposed to other sounds which might encourage them to expand their palate.

And then a few years from now, they too can become snobs like the rest of us.

Cause let's face it, very few people start off in the dance music scene liking weird glitchy underground techno. There's usually a few more mainstream gateway acts that get the ball rolling (pun not intended) with the young.

Distorted_Jungle
11-07-2010, 04:55 PM
It seriously pains me that any of you would entertain the thought of thinking swedish cheese mafia would be a sahara headliner and this wouldn't


Q5KORjvZY6A


Tell me. Seriously. This is not a headliner? Why are we settling for less here? Do I need to post more proof?

I suppose I can post all the youtubes I want and you can sit there at your computer watching it, trying to understand it, or we can watch it on your big screen tv with the sound system cranked and you can look me in eye and tell me with a straight face that you would rather see something else and that there is something else out there right now that is better.


SHM:

http://www.personalfinanceanalyst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/maca.jpg


You know I would love Moderat to be at Coachella, you know this more than anyone. You also know that they would not headline any night of the Sahara. I could see them getting a closing spot in the Mojave, but not in the Sahara.

mezatown
11-07-2010, 05:16 PM
saw SHM at EDC and it was amazing .... also saw steve angello at nocturnal and it was yet again an amzing set and quite a bit different .... planning on seeing both axwell and steve angello again in the next month.

i do think these guys would kill it in like the same time slot as tiesto played in this past year

ELECtROjan
11-07-2010, 05:49 PM
I think there is only one name on that list which would have been headliner level in the states at a time, S&D. But I think that time has long since passed. A few others would definitely be headliner level in Europe... but not in the states, even at an event like Coachella.

That said, that's another solid thing about acts like SHM & Guetta (and, yes, they definitely belong in the same category despite folks trying to act like they don't) at these sorts of things. Take a lineup like the one posted above, switch out a couple of the names with some "douchebag house" acts. These acts have the advantage of luring in people who are newer to the dance scene and haven't really explored the variety of sounds that are out there. Give them a reason to come, and they'll get exposed to other sounds which might encourage them to expand their palate.

And then a few years from now, they too can become snobs like the rest of us.

Cause let's face it, very few people start off in the dance music scene liking weird glitchy underground techno. There's usually a few more mainstream gateway acts that get the ball rolling (pun not intended) with the young.


yup.

The sad realization about that lineup, added with who played last year, is that the popular "crap" will most likely be AVB, Oakenfold, and one of the other big trance acts.

grannock
11-07-2010, 09:38 PM
I was told by a few people that Oakenfold sucked balls at Roo a few years back.

Wheres the beef?
11-07-2010, 11:17 PM
yup.

The sad realization about that lineup, added with who played last year, is that the popular "crap" will most likely be AVB, Oakenfold, and one of the other big trance acts.

I feel the same way about swedish house mafia.



Cause let's face it, very few people start off in the dance music scene liking weird glitchy underground techno. There's usually a few more mainstream gateway acts that get the ball rolling (pun not intended) with the young.

So true. I've had this conversation with friends before and we reached the same conclusion. But the fact is that what sets Coachella apart is the ability to think beyond whatever is happening at the EDC's/Electric Picnics/Lollapaloozas/Spookfests and bring acts that people might not have heard of before.

To me, a headliner will meet all or most of these requirements:

1. Unique visual experience
2. Creates their sound with something more than just a couple CDJs
3. Is unique to Coachella and something most people won't see anywhere else.


Moderat meets these requirements. Swedish House Mafia does not.

choice cat
11-07-2010, 11:27 PM
swedish house mafia is much more accessible though than AVB, Oakenfold etc.

boarderwoozel3
11-08-2010, 12:00 AM
So true. I've had this conversation with friends before and we reached the same conclusion. But the fact is that what sets Coachella apart is the ability to think beyond whatever is happening at the EDC's/Electric Picnics/Lollapaloozas/Spookfests and bring acts that people might not have heard of before.

To me, a headliner will meet all or most of these requirements:

1. Unique visual experience
2. Creates their sound with something more than just a couple CDJs
3. Is unique to Coachella and something most people won't see anywhere else.

Moderat meets these requirements. Swedish House Mafia does not.

You've had way too much of your own Kool-Aid, amigo. They're a fantastic act, but they'll never headline a major music festival like this. It's just not what that project is meant to do.

**Wait-a-tick, Electric Picnic? They have one-of-if-not-the-most legit indie rock/electronic lineups every year. Leave the Irish out of this. It's like a 3/5 as large Coachella with all the shitty "crowd pleaser" acts cut out.

spiggums
11-08-2010, 12:00 AM
So true. I've had this conversation with friends before and we reached the same conclusion. But the fact is that what sets Coachella apart is the ability to think beyond whatever is happening at the EDC's/Electric Picnics/Lollapaloozas/Spookfests and bring acts that people might not have heard of before.

To me, a headliner will meet all or most of these requirements:

1. Unique visual experience
2. Creates their sound with something more than just a couple CDJs
3. Is unique to Coachella and something most people won't see anywhere else.


Moderat meets these requirements. Swedish House Mafia does not.

You can look at it as meeting those requirements, but you're basing that off of nothing but your own design. Years past have HAD artists like that, but the headliners certainly weren't there.

Using last year as your frame of reference: we had Douchemau5, and Benassi on Friday who fit in a similar category to the SHM concept. Sunday went the old school legend approach with Plastikman and Orbital... And I'd bet good money that the only reason we saw 2ManyDJs close out the Sahara on Saturday, instead of Guetta is because Tiesto closed out the main stage.

I mean, I appreciate your thoughts on this, I really do. I just don't think it's a realistic expectation.

And honestly, I'd PREFER it this way. I'm hoping for something more exciting in terms of headliner ends up on the other stages while someone like SHM closes out the Sahara. Friday night was bad enough for a conflict with the PIL/Fever Ray/Whitest Boy Alive decision that had to be made. Having Benassi on in the Sahara helped rule out at least one option for me :)

I mean, if the conflict were to end up something like a Tiga (not that I'd expect him to headline) in the Sahara and a Jamiroquai on the main stage in 2011. Where both are people I've wanted to see for years and have had opportunities thwarted (not that I'm bitter... ok maybe just a little bit) I'd probably start stabbing random attendees.

All of this may be a moot point, however, as I've got it on good authority that there's an exceptionally high concentration of dubstep getting confirmed for this year. (then again, my tolerance level for dubstep is pretty low so what I see as "high" probably may just be a drop in the bucket)

rag and bone
11-08-2010, 12:11 AM
legitimately thought this thread was called "SMH Sahara Headliner 2011" and my first thought under that premise was SHM...coincidence? i think not.

Distorted_Jungle
11-08-2010, 08:31 AM
I feel the same way about swedish house mafia.



So true. I've had this conversation with friends before and we reached the same conclusion. But the fact is that what sets Coachella apart is the ability to think beyond whatever is happening at the EDC's/Electric Picnics/Lollapaloozas/Spookfests and bring acts that people might not have heard of before.

To me, a headliner will meet all or most of these requirements:

1. Unique visual experience
2. Creates their sound with something more than just a couple CDJs
3. Is unique to Coachella and something most people won't see anywhere else.


Moderat meets these requirements. Swedish House Mafia does not.


I have a Moderat recording from Electric Picnic, just sayin.

Wheres the beef?
11-08-2010, 11:19 AM
**Wait-a-tick, Electric Picnic? They have one-of-if-not-the-most legit indie rock/electronic lineups every year. Leave the Irish out of this. It's like a 3/5 as large Coachella with all the shitty "crowd pleaser" acts cut out.


I have a Moderat recording from Electric Picnic, just sayin.

I have that Moderat recording too. I meant to say Electric Zoo. I'd go to Electric Picnic any time.

tmac
11-08-2010, 11:32 AM
will the sahara headliner conflict with the pure filth stage headliner? or will the pure filth stage end earlier?

Distorted_Jungle
11-08-2010, 12:02 PM
Will people just give it a rest on this whole "Swedish House Mafia Shouldn't be there" crap? Probably not, but it's fuckin amazing that there are threads requesting the likes of Lil Wayne and people chose to come in here and talk their shit. We get it, you don't think they should be there and you rather someone else uber exclusive and rare be there. GV is a business, if they booked Moderat/The Knife/Underworld tickets would not sell the way they usually do and that's a fact. I want Moderat there just as much as the next person, and could care less about the other 2 I mentioned, but I would prefer Coachella to not go broke booking rare/exclusive acts and have future Coachella's. Last year I thought had a great line up even though Guetta/Tiesto/Kaskade/Deadmau5 were all on the line up. To go from something like that to hopefully just SHM as the big Cheese act of the year would be awesome.

thefrush
11-08-2010, 01:31 PM
Exactly. In order to book RARE acts to make you guys happy, they have to book POPULAR acts to make them money.

djandrews25
11-08-2010, 01:46 PM
Ryan you're starting to make moderat fans look bad. They dont belong late in the sahara at all. Closing the gobi would be great and i really hope they play somewhere next year but you've gotta realize that they are booking closing acts that sell tickets. Also, SHM djs far exceed many of the ones that have been getting booked for closing slots in recent years. Instead of bitching about an act that blew up in the last year that we MIGHT get, why not just request what you want and see what happens. Would you be happier if we got armin van buren or paul van dyke?

GuyInTucson
11-08-2010, 02:04 PM
You could do a lot worse than SHM, but it's just not something I can listen to for a long stretch of time.

People saying they sound nothing like trance need to go back to that track listing posted where the first track they played was from a producer who makes trance.

Do they play house? Yeah, cheese house. Which may bring the "masses" but - as a group - are they "established" enough to headline? Has there been an act or group with less under its belt (again, as a group) that has headlined the Sahara than SHM?

zimmy1222
11-08-2010, 03:00 PM
wtf, they just headlined EDC and you want them to take another headline spot at another so cal electro stage, the second biggest one at that?

STALE.

Distorted_Jungle
11-08-2010, 03:04 PM
People saying they sound nothing like trance need to go back to that track listing posted where the first track they played was from a producer who makes trance.

If you listened to the mix you would realize that the part of the track they used for the intro would make a good intro for any style of music, it's not played very long.

GuyInTucson
11-08-2010, 03:33 PM
If you listened to the mix you would realize that the part of the track they used for the intro would make a good intro for any style of music, it's not played very long.

My point is that it's kind of silly for people to tell me their music doesn't sound trancey when I - like many others here - have been listening to EDM since the late 90's and can hear all sorts of trance elements in their music.

Just because today's world calls this stuff "electro" and "progressive house" doesn't mean that's what everyone is going to associate it with. Again, if you could travel 10 years into the past a lot of people were calling this stuff progressive trance, Nu-NRG, UK Hard House and a lot of other music that gets called plain old "house" these days.

Sure, there is plenty of house in a few of those sets, but there are a lot of people - on this board and other places - that can hear the trance in their music.

You can't just post a video or two of them playing a house track like someone did earlier to support that case. I have two live mixes on CD's that I recently downloaded to try to debunk my own trance allegation but i just couldn't do it. It sounded like really cheesy early 00's progressive trance.

They both sound like a 2001 Tiesto or Christopher Lawrence set.

djandrews25
11-08-2010, 03:50 PM
They both sound like a 2001 Tiesto or Christopher Lawrence set.

I agree they do have some trance influence like progressive house, but this statement is far from reality.

Distorted_Jungle
11-08-2010, 03:56 PM
Just agree to disagree, we both just keep recycling the same points over and over and it's just pointless at this point because we're never going to see eye-to-eye on this.

Bud Luster
11-08-2010, 04:04 PM
yup.

The sad realization about that lineup, added with who played last year, is that the popular "crap" will most likely be AVB, Oakenfold, and one of the other big trance acts.


I feel the same way about swedish house mafia.



No way. SHM are leagues better and more fun than any of the trance artists or guys Electrojan mentioned.


will the sahara headliner conflict with the pure filth stage headliner? or will the pure filth stage end earlier?

No one knows for certain. Chances everything will overlap/conflict quite a bit.


Will people just give it a rest on this whole "Swedish House Mafia Shouldn't be there" crap?

I don't think people are debating if they should be there or not (which they should have been last year, why Coachella getting acts a year too late now?) just if they are headliner worthy.

GuyInTucson
11-08-2010, 04:06 PM
I agree they do have some trance influence like progressive house, but this statement is far from reality.

How would you know considering I didn't say which sets I listened to? Just saying...It's really not very far from reality.

In 2001, a lot of Christopher Lawrence sets were very progressive/UK Hard House/NRG sounding. His set at TAO 00/01 was evident of that, IMO.

And Tiesto is known for his melodic and cheesy sound and always has been, but when I saw him in 2002 in the Sahara, he played a very progressive-like set. Not saying it was good, it was just nothing like what he spins now.

djandrews25
11-08-2010, 04:36 PM
How would you know considering I didn't say which sets I listened to? Just saying...It's really not very far from reality.

In 2001, a lot of Christopher Lawrence sets were very progressive/UK Hard House/NRG sounding. His set at TAO 00/01 was evident of that, IMO.

And Tiesto is known for his melodic and cheesy sound and always has been, but when I saw him in 2002 in the Sahara, he played a very progressive-like set. Not saying it was good, it was just nothing like what he spins now.

I remember lawrence playing decent techy-progressive-trance but it was more like 95-98. By 2000 he was straight up cheesy trance. I suppose you could be right about his 00/01 tao set being more progressive but i wouldnt have given it a chance at that point anyway. Saying tiesto is similar at any point in his career is more than a stretch.

Cuddlesthesheep
11-08-2010, 05:33 PM
My point is that it's kind of silly for people to tell me their music doesn't sound trancey when I - like many others here - have been listening to EDM since the late 90's and can hear all sorts of trance elements in their music.

Just because today's world calls this stuff "electro" and "progressive house" doesn't mean that's what everyone is going to associate it with. Again, if you could travel 10 years into the past a lot of people were calling this stuff progressive trance, Nu-NRG, UK Hard House and a lot of other music that gets called plain old "house" these days.

Sure, there is plenty of house in a few of those sets, but there are a lot of people - on this board and other places - that can hear the trance in their music.

You can't just post a video or two of them playing a house track like someone did earlier to support that case. I have two live mixes on CD's that I recently downloaded to try to debunk my own trance allegation but i just couldn't do it. It sounded like really cheesy early 00's progressive trance.

They both sound like a 2001 Tiesto or Christopher Lawrence set.

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/Minimanolo/iwkoqt.gif

tmac
11-08-2010, 06:38 PM
No one knows for certain. Chances everything will overlap/conflict quite a bit.
in that case i think id probably be at magnetic man over shm if it came to that.

bobchella
11-08-2010, 06:40 PM
yeah in a split second

ELECtROjan
11-08-2010, 10:55 PM
I feel the same way about swedish house mafia.

which is funny because you have never even seen them....

choice cat
11-09-2010, 01:18 AM
wtf, they just headlined EDC and you want them to take another headline spot at another so cal electro stage, the second biggest one at that?

STALE.

this along with what bud luster said. Whatever they are electro/house/trance/prog it doesn't matter, they bring a good party. A lot of people could EASILY walk right up to shm at which ever stage, dance, and have a great time. BUT its just a year too late imho. I feel like their opportunity of edm domination at coachella was in 2010. unless they have a slew of new singles up their sleeve or something else new to debut, i would like to politely say "pass". something new instead

GuyInTucson
11-09-2010, 07:57 AM
I remember lawrence playing decent techy-progressive-trance but it was more like 95-98. By 2000 he was straight up cheesy trance. I suppose you could be right about his 00/01 tao set being more progressive but i wouldnt have given it a chance at that point anyway. Saying tiesto is similar at any point in his career is more than a stretch.

Ok maybe I am focussing more on an isolated Tiesto set that I saw rather than his traditional stuff, but I guess my point is that these guys are super cheese and you agreed they do have - at the very least - a hint of trance in them.

If they get booked, ok cool. Headliner? Meh... Let them lead into a bigger act I say.

djandrews25
11-09-2010, 10:48 AM
Dont think i'd prefer them to headline. To me this is a feasible(due to their current popularity) and acceptable(WAY better than big trance names) dj headliner. I could name 20 djs that i would want to see billed higher, but SHM's popularity wont let that happen. SHM > tiesto, guetta, PVD, AVB, ATB, deadmau5 etc... We should be happy if it happens, just think about the total dog shit that has been getting booked to close.

*edit* super cheesy is excessive imo. I was pretty impressed by their set at edc, and really impressed with steve angello at nocturnal. But ill give you that i felt at times it did get slightly cheesy. They still have a banging house sound and incredibly good mixing technique.

ELECtROjan
11-29-2010, 10:05 AM
Headliner? Meh... Let them lead into a bigger act I say.

Considering who played last year, who do you think is a bigger draw than Swedish House Mafia?