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suprefan
08-11-2010, 06:02 PM
Great article, read on.


http://www.laweekly.com/2010-08-12/music/fixing-coachella/

gaypalmsprings
08-11-2010, 07:19 PM
Great article, read on.


http://www.laweekly.com/2010-08-12/music/fixing-coachella/

A Supre article...ha! It makes for a fascinating read. I left a comment at the site....others should leave comments as well. You know that Paul will read the comments you write.

rskapcat
08-11-2010, 07:25 PM
Thanks for giving this its own thread, SupreChris. I worried that not enough people would read it buried in the Coachella 2011 thread.

frazzles
08-11-2010, 07:39 PM
Oh man. I got quoted on an LA Weekly blog.

gaypalmsprings
08-11-2010, 08:03 PM
Oh man. I got quoted on an LA Weekly blog.

You're famous!

PlayaDelWes
08-11-2010, 08:43 PM
Now only if LA weekly could send a reporter to the White House.

Courtney
08-11-2010, 08:57 PM
Good article. I'm so, so relived to read that Paul T. is owning up to the fact that there were simply too many people. From what I have read, it seems like an obvious fact to absolutely everyone, but it's nice to have Goldenvoice say it on record.

Also, I want to know which bands were caught selling their VIP passes in the parking lot.

Grant
08-11-2010, 09:00 PM
Stuff like this makes it harder to wait.

PassiveTheory
08-12-2010, 12:05 AM
"We had a year recently that lost money — "

2008?

choice cat
08-12-2010, 12:13 AM
thats what i thought.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
08-12-2010, 04:01 AM
"We had a year recently that lost money "

2008?

for sure. all that Prince $$$. But worth it in the end.

fatbastard
08-12-2010, 06:49 AM
...

303dubbin
08-12-2010, 07:49 AM
good read.

shakermaker113
08-12-2010, 08:01 AM
so he doesn't actually explain why they sold more tickets or adopted inferior wristband technology.

rskapcat
08-12-2010, 08:13 AM
As long as it doesn't happen again, I don't care if he got the 2010 instructions from Satan via Ke-dollarsign-ha.

guedita
08-12-2010, 08:21 AM
Good article. I'm so, so relived to read that Paul T. is owning up to the fact that there were simply too many people. From what I have read, it seems like an obvious fact to absolutely everyone, but it's nice to have Goldenvoice say it on record.

Also, I want to know which bands were caught selling their VIP passes in the parking lot.

I was wondering what bands were doing, too. Sneaky, sneaky...

I really respect Paul T. for getting this out there in the open. And for what it's worth, I have spoken with a lot of people (mostly the I'm there only to party types) whose first Coachella was 2010 and didn't think it was overcrowded at all. It's heartening to know that Paul wants to satisfy the long term Coachella attendees who are there for the music.

PassiveTheory
08-12-2010, 08:23 AM
so he doesn't actually explain why they sold more tickets or adopted inferior wristband technology.

Pretty much.

Honestly, I feel that if the media hadn't picked up on how big a stink "Clusterfuckchella" made of 2010, we probably wouldn't have seen any reaction at all to what transpired. This article MIGHT indicate some changes being taken in 2011, but I wouldn't be so naive.

TomAz
08-12-2010, 08:32 AM
This article MIGHT indicate some changes being taken in 2011, but I wouldn't be so naive.


"It's been a hundred days now since the show, and we've been writing notes down [about] how to make this show better," he says. "Almost across the board, each one of us came up with the same note: less people.

...

PassiveTheory
08-12-2010, 10:24 AM
Tom, you're old enough to know that people don't always carry out what they say in print.

JustSteve
08-12-2010, 10:26 AM
and you are ignorant enough to not understand how paul and goldenvoice operate.

shoegazer76
08-12-2010, 10:38 AM
I don't understand why everybody is so quick to say they'll pay more money for less people. Yeah its a great value to see all these different acts but when you take into consideration the short set times & scheduling conflicts its actually about right if not a lil pricey. Goldenvoice fucked up with their high tech bracelets and were unprepared to handle mass perimeter crashing. The buck shouldn't be passed on to the fans that made Chella what it is but that's looking like what is coming. Hopefully the headliners will be worth the money.

guedita
08-12-2010, 10:41 AM
^ Huh? I doubt that's what is going to happen. I think it is relatively safe to assume, based on Paul's statement in that article, that there will be less than 75,000 tickets sold. At the same price they were sold in 2010.

locachica73
08-12-2010, 10:42 AM
So to those of you who stated you would not be back after last year, has your mind been changed by this article?

shoegazer76
08-12-2010, 10:45 AM
I've read numerous posts of dumbasses declaring they would pay "X" amount more for less people. Great idea. Already the most expensive fest for admission.

BROKENDOLL
08-12-2010, 10:45 AM
Tom, you're old enough to know that people don't always carry out what they say in print.
Passive, I think you're confusing the real world with this message board...

TomAz
08-12-2010, 10:58 AM
schooled by brokendoll.

HandBanana
08-12-2010, 11:05 AM
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one.
If they were looking to make a fake apology they would have made it a much grander empty gesture. And it would have happened months ago.

BROKENDOLL
08-12-2010, 11:08 AM
schooled by brokendoll.
Welcome to my neighborhood...

sin213
08-12-2010, 11:18 AM
Oh man. I got quoted on an LA Weekly blog.

yep!

was readin it and was like I KNOW THAT GUY! ;)

and hopefully they take this stuff under actual consideration and we see improvements next year!

eskamo951
08-12-2010, 11:48 AM
This article made me so optimistic for 2011.

Mak Attack
08-12-2010, 12:37 PM
I'm happy they acknowledged the issues and I really think they will work to resolve them. I've gone from "no way I'm attending next year" to "well it depends on the lineup".

Ravingmad
08-13-2010, 09:26 AM
Yeah, this article makes me a lot more hopeful for next year. Basically every issue I had with Coachella this year gets taken care of if they just cut ticket sales back to previous levels.

foxydj
08-13-2010, 11:32 AM
this made me happy :thu

runbowsky
08-13-2010, 12:44 PM
yup

chucky canuck
08-14-2010, 09:42 AM
Good article, but Tollett makes no firm commitments. Set a lower amount of tix (60,000?), beef up perimeter security to prevent gate-crashers, hire more people to speed up entrance lines, and let everyone know in advance that if you don't have a ticket, you will not get in.

JustSteve
08-14-2010, 09:47 AM
and let everyone know in advance that if you don't have a ticket, you will not get in.

people are stupid, that won't stop them. it didn't this year.

Grant
08-14-2010, 09:50 AM
barbed wire/electrical fencing should keep them grounded

Bendulum
08-14-2010, 10:34 AM
barbed wire/electrical fencing should keep them grounded

But. . .


people are stupid, that won't stop them.

Grant
08-14-2010, 10:45 AM
OK. Barbed wire/electrical fencing with guarantee of euthanasia upon attempted trespass.

Bendulum
08-14-2010, 10:49 AM
OK. Barbed wire/electrical fencing with guarantee of euthanasia upon attempted trespass.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i299/bendulum/nhjh/kaneklapqo6.gif

brycerosen
08-14-2010, 07:38 PM
Less people, bring back the teslas then were talkin

wstsidela
08-15-2010, 11:11 PM
I'm happy they acknowledged the issues and I really think they will work to resolve them. I've gone from "no way I'm attending next year" to "well it depends on the lineup".

I hear ya. This must be what an abusive relationship feels like. I was ready to forgive a couple of weeks after the show. :sorry The bruises hadn't even healed and I was running back into the arms of Coachella.

Stefachink
08-16-2010, 01:26 AM
I hear ya. This must be what an abusive relationship feels like. I was ready to forgive a couple of weeks after the show. :sorry The bruises hadn't even healed and I was running back into the arms of Coachella.

I was in a similar abusive relationship with Coachella; I was back in its arms after one week. We are all Coachella whores :pulse

TomAz
08-16-2010, 07:59 AM
shouldn't it be 'fewer people', not 'less people'?

fatbastard
08-16-2010, 08:29 AM
Will you be eating fish next April TomAz?

TomAz
08-16-2010, 08:41 AM
I have no idea what that means. Unless you mean it literally, in which case I have no idea why you would ask that.

fatbastard
08-16-2010, 11:10 AM
Your comparison earlier in the year about attending next year.

TomAz
08-16-2010, 01:16 PM
oh I had already said that I was going to give it another chance in 2011. That is especially true now that Paul T has publicly acknowledged that there were problems and that he plans to fix them.

locachica73
08-16-2010, 01:18 PM
oh I had already said that I was going to give it another chance in 2011. That is especially true now that Paul T has publicly acknowledged that there were problems and that he plans to fix them.

YAY!!! I look forward to having a beer with you in "the spot" next year. Did you ever get to see the picture of you, Ally and I sipping beers in the beer gardens?

TomAz
08-16-2010, 01:54 PM
I don't remember that one.. who has it?

locachica73
08-16-2010, 01:57 PM
I don't remember that one.. who has it?

Ally took it but I have it on my facebook. I will post it in the post your picture thread. :)

sacleonard
08-16-2010, 11:38 PM
shouldn't it be 'fewer people', not 'less people'?

Same number of tickets will be sold.
He doesn't want fat people in 2011.

sacleonard
08-16-2010, 11:46 PM
So to those of you who stated you would not be back after last year, has your mind been changed by this article?

We were prepared to make a return, but definitely reluctantly, so this article definitely helps relieve concerns (especially for those in our group who fly out from the east coast). Thanks for sharing the link.

CellarOwl
08-17-2010, 11:58 AM
Too many people, whatever; as long as there are enough fucking showers in the place next year so I don't have to take a bottle of water into a porta-potty to scrub off my junk, we're cool.

captncrzy
08-17-2010, 12:33 PM
Will you be eating fish next April TomAz?

It's "eating crow", dude.

betao
08-17-2010, 09:13 PM
Really good to see that Paul is publicly acknowledging complaints from the year. Unless I find the lineup to be pretty boring (which is very unlikely), I'll probably be back.

Less people, less hype of the moment DJs/bands, and coils = coachella bliss.

303dubbin
08-18-2010, 08:21 AM
Less people, less hype of the moment DJs/bands, and coils = coachella bliss.

i think that says it pretty well.

fatbastard
08-18-2010, 11:09 AM
He doesn't want fat people in 2011.

:eek:

NachoCat
08-18-2010, 11:35 AM
This gives me a boner

shermanoaksyo
08-18-2010, 03:08 PM
It's "eating crow", dude.

He's referring to the fish taco stand off the Outdoor theater. fockin delicious

ivankay
08-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Less people, less hype of the moment DJs/bands, and coils = coachella bliss.

And the return of the slushie style frozen lemonades.

higgybaby23
08-18-2010, 03:17 PM
^I'd be happy if that was the only problem solved.

ivankay
08-18-2010, 03:26 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4297148320_cfb2bf5c05_z.jpg?zz=1

For you.

beavington
08-18-2010, 03:39 PM
Oh man. I got quoted on an LA Weekly blog.

maybe you can be in one of the tents signing autographs next year?

higgybaby23
08-18-2010, 03:41 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4297148320_cfb2bf5c05_z.jpg?zz=1

For you.

:pulse

BeaverCat
08-18-2010, 05:16 PM
This made my heart happy :)

Tollett expects next year's Coachella to be a step forward in the festival's evolution. After a full decade of general fan satisfaction — and with one imperfect gathering in Indio in 2010 — anything less would only be a letdown.

frazzles
08-18-2010, 06:22 PM
The whole "evolution" thing has me somewhat worried, though. All things considered, the only things that need to evolve are camping, parking, and security.

beavington
08-18-2010, 06:33 PM
I was just happy they noticed the biggest problem was too many people.

Stefachink
08-18-2010, 11:10 PM
Which one is better, Minute Maid Soft Frozen Lemonade or slushie style frozen lemonades?

ivankay
08-19-2010, 01:32 AM
Slushie, period.

indietron
08-19-2010, 02:26 AM
Slushie trumps all

Panda421
08-19-2010, 03:06 AM
Slushie FTW! That picture made me drool.

Sigur Ros Stache
08-19-2010, 04:43 AM
Wasn't the happiest camper with Coachella this year but friends and I already decided we would give it one more year. (Yeah, its a lot of planning coming from the East Coast!) This definitely eased my mind some.

betao
08-19-2010, 05:52 AM
And the return of the slushie style frozen lemonades.

Wait - were those not present this past year?

ivankay
08-19-2010, 07:19 AM
They were m.i.a. and it was a sad thing indeed.

Rosemont17
08-19-2010, 10:19 AM
very good article... coachella fucked up and im glad they see that so they will hopefully improve what is a great festival!

noolan
11-15-2010, 10:08 PM
So going over the updates section from last year, the pre-sale and all the camping/ticket info came out on 12/13/09. Hopefully that means we are less than 30 days from all the proposed changes and the "evolution" from being announced.

While not as convenient, I think eliminating ability to print tickets online and making unique "collectors item" style tickets(like other major festivals) would eliminate all the fakes and duplicates of last year. Oh, and how about some cloth wrist bands?

Sublime
11-17-2010, 12:13 PM
He's referring to the fish taco stand off the Outdoor theater. fockin delicious

noted

Sublime
11-17-2010, 12:15 PM
While not as convenient, I think eliminating ability to print tickets online and making unique "collectors item" style tickets(like other major festivals) would eliminate all the fakes and duplicates of last year. Oh, and how about some cloth wrist bands?

I concur

Bons222000
11-17-2010, 06:17 PM
I never had a line to get into the festival from the campgrounds. The only annoying thing for me from the previous years was getting into the campgrounds on Thursday night which took like 5 hrs.

chairmenmeow47
11-17-2010, 10:06 PM
i read the title ofs thsi thread as "fisting coachella"

Panda421
11-18-2010, 01:07 AM
hahaha, What time did everyone get their and how long did it take you to get in?
We arrived in the middle of the afternoon Thursday and it took less than 2 hours.

noolan
11-18-2010, 07:01 AM
Took us about 1-2 hours maybe to get in, although we were in line drinking beers and meeting people, so not sure.

Fourthisto
11-18-2010, 07:25 AM
Dammit, every time I read this thread I become obsessed with Lemonade Slushies all over again... for months. Looks like I'm good until February now. Thanks, guys!

amyzzz
11-22-2010, 04:27 PM
Wow. That is an incredible lemonade slushie pic.

yeahfontaine
11-22-2010, 07:04 PM
Took us nearly 4 hours to get in on Friday, walking in from the street. Showed up at noon, got in at almost 5 and missed Yeasayer.

Only reason we even got in then was that a lot of us rushed the security (politely--it may sound strange but I'm sure you guys can imagine this--everyone just running down the dirt road and giving the security people "sorry, gotta do this" looks as they tried to hold us back) and then we got our wristbands in an undisclosed way. We had tickets, of course. We were just SO tired of waiting and we'd never experienced anything like that at Coachella ever.

Oh, and the drinking beers and meeting people helped, but enough was enough.

LyricsForTheMind
11-23-2010, 07:48 AM
We got to the line on Thursday around 2 or 3....it took like 2 hours but we were drinking/trading beers with people and meeting everyone in the area so it passed by pretty fast. The waiting to get in Thursday afternoon is a pretty good time, really sets the mood for the whole weekend. We started this one cheer for these little kids with bubbles that was pretty entertaining...honking and what not, good times.

tigermilkboy
11-24-2010, 10:16 AM
We got to the line on Thursday around 2 or 3....it took like 2 hours but we were drinking/trading beers with people and meeting everyone in the area so it passed by pretty fast. The waiting to get in Thursday afternoon is a pretty good time, really sets the mood for the whole weekend. We started this one cheer for these little kids with bubbles that was pretty entertaining...honking and what not, good times.

Yes it really sets the mood-got me in a bad mood. But on the Friday we were stuck on the roads 1 mile from the festival for 2 hours-which means no meeting people or drinking. There seemed to be so much fucking around trying to get cars in to a designated camping spot that there was no benefit.
In the previous years I never had a problem driving straight in to a lot, parking, grabbing my stuff and finding a camping spot and the whole process taking more than a hour. This was four hours of pointlessly running a car engine, just so we had a 'designated spot'.

The whole camping thing was thought out, but badly thought out. I actually enjoy picking my own camping spot, I hate getting told exactly where I have to camp.

eskamo951
11-26-2010, 03:16 PM
They didn't really let you pick your spot in previous years. They weren't as strict about which one you grabbed, but they still had an order to it.

As long as they fix the security/wristband problem and sell fewer tickets, I'll have no problems this year.

Leeartlee
01-02-2011, 09:50 PM
I still thought 2010 was a great year regardless of the problems. But if they manage to reduce the numbers by even 5k, that would be outstanding.

fatbastard
01-19-2011, 05:46 PM
I need the address to the Indio police department. I'd like to donate $100 for the purchase of rubber bullets for the use on potential gate crashers.

BeaverCat
01-19-2011, 05:54 PM
There will be no gate crashers if Coachella enforces their "you will not be allowed within a quarter mile of the festival/parking lots/campgrounds unless you have your festival wristband" policy.

SPX_clothing
01-19-2011, 06:38 PM
good read for sure.. And yes its true.. too many people last year. plain and simple.

alicide
01-19-2011, 08:47 PM
They need to set the showers up like in past years, units spread around, rather than in a centralized area...I waited a few hours to get into the shower area last year, only to find there was no line organization once in the shower compound. Used the sinks instead, and wet-wiped it for the rest of the weekend. If they place the showers around the perimeter of the camping areas, it would go faster and be less of a cluster-fuck.

kroqken
01-19-2011, 08:58 PM
There will be no gate crashers if Coachella enforces their "you will not be allowed within a quarter mile of the festival/parking lots/campgrounds unless you have your festival wristband" policy.

I hate gate crashers like Wire hates "Ambulance Chasers".

Beanbean
04-07-2011, 08:56 PM
Now only if LA weekly could send a reporter to the White House.

HAHAHA! So funny yet so true..

frizzlefry
04-08-2011, 03:36 AM
I already said but this square mile business means a lot of fucking land has to be covered, I think the ten foot fence will be the real deterrent. I can see people getting to the fences without too much trouble. The problem is that they have to find out how or a good spot to get past the huge fucking fences while they are already trespassing.