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jimmycrackcorn
02-28-2007, 04:56 PM
i was thinking about the concept of pride today and wondered what most other people think of it? seems like 1/2 the people i know think it is a positive and the other half, well a negative attribute... anyone care to offer their opinion and a lil explanation?

elChurro
02-28-2007, 05:03 PM
its a parade with lots of pretty colors. :P

J~$$$
02-28-2007, 05:12 PM
Never let the ego over take pride.

mob roulette
02-28-2007, 05:38 PM
lions kick total ass.

Good Days Last
02-28-2007, 05:40 PM
Depends who's holding the pride.

Good Days Last
02-28-2007, 05:40 PM
Sorta like a gun.

Depends who's holding it, and what they do with it.

jimmycrackcorn
02-28-2007, 06:10 PM
well this whole thought came about because i made some stupid comment in front of my dad and he corrected me by saying "you should only be proud of your actions" and i thought wow he's right... so now when i hear somebody say i am proud of _______... i will always compare it to that benchmark... what came to mind later is all this stuff like "white pride" "brown pride" "black pride" or even "gay pride" what are they proud of? them being white, brown, black was not because of any action or accomplishment on their part?... i dunno i thought it was pretty profound and thought i would share and bounce it off some other people and see what you others think of the idea... (my stupid comment was "i'm proud of how young i look")

jackstraw94086
02-28-2007, 06:44 PM
your problem is you're merging two somewhat different concepts. The respondents to your little survey were likely not thinking of pride in the same sense. Simple pride, or confidence in yourself and abilities, when you stop short of vanity, is good. The cardinal sin version (hubris) is the extreme. That's arrogance and conceit.

Basically pure pride is a sin, but with it's opposite virtue, humility, it's good. The word has 2 meanings.

If there is a hell then everyone's going there anyway so who gives a fuck.

gaypalmsprings
02-28-2007, 06:46 PM
I thought Pride was another act at Coachella.

All That I Am
02-28-2007, 06:55 PM
I thought this was about Pride Fighting

John Peel is My Co-pilot
02-28-2007, 09:27 PM
It comes before a fall - ergo, pride is some fucker pushing you!

TomAz
03-01-2007, 08:12 AM
Sinopsis

What it is: Pride is excessive belief in one's own abilities, that interferes with the individual's recognition of the grace of God. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.

Why you do it: Well-meaning elementary school teachers told you to "believe in yourself."

Your punishment in Hell will be: You'll be broken on the wheel.

Associated symbols & suchlike: Pride is linked with the horse and the color violet.

private,eyes
03-01-2007, 08:17 AM
"You feel that sting... that's pride fucking with you.... FUCK PRIDE"

york707
03-01-2007, 08:21 AM
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~ikemura/WhiteLionGroup.jpg

TomAz
03-01-2007, 08:24 AM
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0009WT58W.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

gaypalmsprings
03-01-2007, 08:26 AM
http://ongp.com/Images/Images/Images/index%20rainbowspin.gif

http://groups.teenhelp.org/imagehosting/3052544e66253d468e.gif

adamnikyo
03-01-2007, 08:35 AM
i think it's really gay you people took the rainbow from the irish.

J~$$$
03-01-2007, 08:36 AM
what is the rainbow thing all about?

TomAz
03-01-2007, 08:41 AM
sexual orientation is a social construct.

breakjaw
03-01-2007, 08:44 AM
what is the rainbow thing all about?
I'm guessing it's the Judy Garland thing.

TomAz
03-01-2007, 08:45 AM
i thought it was supposed to represent diversity.

jackstraw94086
03-01-2007, 08:55 AM
i thought it was supposed to represent diversity.

bingo

amyzzz
03-01-2007, 09:05 AM
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0009WT58W.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I have that DVD set, but I haven't watched my actual set yet (I've watched a rented version before).

Mr. Darcy is too proud of his wealth and situation, and Elizabeth is too prejudiced against him because of his excessive pride.

I think that the idea of "gay pride" or "black pride" is for people of those groups to come together and be proud of who they are, as opposed to cowering somewhere ashamed of themselves or hiding who they are because they're afraid of prejudice against them. The "white pride" has a negative connotation since white people are considered the mainstream dominant race in control, so if white people are too proud of their race, they're being racist.
That's how I understand it.

adamnikyo
03-01-2007, 09:29 AM
...as opposed to cowering somewhere ashamed of themselves...

yeah, it's really sad.
yesterday i found a queer minority terrified and shivering under my bed.
third one this week.

jackstraw94086
03-01-2007, 09:30 AM
yeah, it's really sad.
yesterday i found a queer minority terrified and shivering under my bed.
third one this week.

You can spray for those.

J~$$$
03-01-2007, 09:31 AM
Did you hear the phrase, I want you sugar tits?

amyzzz
03-01-2007, 11:09 AM
yeah, it's really sad.
yesterday i found a queer minority terrified and shivering under my bed.
third one this week.
roflz.

bumper31
03-01-2007, 01:31 PM
My dad never said he was proud of me........

All I ever wanted was my dad to say he proud of me....:'(

jimmycrackcorn
03-01-2007, 03:41 PM
[QUOTE=amyzzz;80917]I have that DVD set, but I haven't watched my actual set yet (I've watched a rented version before).I think that the idea of "gay pride" or "black pride" is for people of those groups to come together and be proud of who they are, as opposed to cowering somewhere ashamed of themselves or hiding who they are because they're afraid of prejudice against them.




yeah that makes sense... i just figure if they DID or accomplished something to help their respective communities then they would truly have something to be proud of... otherwise maybe "secure" or "comfortable" with their sexual orientation or ethnicity would be the appropriate term?.. i don't know the other day it seemed like i was seeing things in a new light, like a epiphany, a moment of clarity... it felt good and i wanted to share the good feeling with others, but today i feel like i am just argueing about semantics...
-shrugs-

amyzzz
03-01-2007, 03:45 PM
yeah that makes sense... i just figure if they DID or accomplished something to help their respective communities then they would truly have something to be proud of... otherwise maybe "secure" or "comfortable" with their sexual orientation or ethnicity would be the appropriate term?.. i don't know the other day it seemed like i was seeing things in a new light, like a epiphany, a moment of clarity... it felt good and i wanted to share the good feeling with others, but today i feel like i am just argueing about semantics...
-shrugs-

That kind of pride would have even more validity. Don't let us bring your good feeling down with our semantics.