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bmack86
03-31-2010, 09:26 PM
Starbucks already put up a pretty damn good one:

Think of what you could do with all the coffee (http://www.starbucks.com/blog/10113/starbucks-listens-to-customer-request-for-more-sizes.aspx)

cansei de ser sexme
03-31-2010, 09:28 PM
The Collegeboard is releasing SAT scores on April 1, and I was going to make an account that looked semi-official and send them a really shitty score to their email at midnight, but I am too lazy.

shoegazer76
03-31-2010, 09:55 PM
Cling wrap across the toilet bowl is always a favorite.

CrimesceneCookie
04-01-2010, 01:11 AM
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/other/icade_main.jpg
ThinkGeek (http://www.thinkgeek.com)always has April Fools products like this iCade for your iPad.

tessalasset
04-01-2010, 02:16 AM
I love that they actually went through with the Tauntaun sleeping bag (http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/bb2e/) after so many people tried to order it.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/bb2e_tauntaun_sleeping_bag.jpg

tessalasset
04-01-2010, 02:18 AM
my friend got one for christmas and took the BEST pic.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs294.ash1/22149_542976359054_19300768_32331633_4168315_n.jpg

weeklymix
04-01-2010, 02:32 AM
Please vote for this to become reality: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/my-first-bacon.shtml?icpg=Carousel_MyFirstBacon_4

HunterGather
04-01-2010, 04:15 AM
Björk and the rap industry have crossed paths more than once in the past. Whether it’s working with RZA or taking production from Timbaland—she’s made it pretty clear that she’s open to new shit. Buried midway through the Night Shift half of the massive new E-40 album, Revenue Retrievin, is the Droop-E-produced “Spend the Night.” It’s notable not just for being completely bonkers on an album already full of ridiculous production, but also because Droop drew most of the samples from Medulla, the entirely acapella Bjork album from a couple years back that didn’t quite work as well as we’d hoped. Oh yeah—Bjork also cleared the samples.

Read more: http://www.thefader.com/2010/03/31/e-40-droop-e-and-bjork-collaborate-and-it-is-awesome/#ixzz0jql4eo1L

Z4ATNQ2wTnM

JClemy
04-01-2010, 04:31 AM
Björk and the rap industry have crossed paths more than once in the past. Whether it’s working with RZA or taking production from Timbaland—she’s made it pretty clear that she’s open to new shit. Buried midway through the Night Shift half of the massive new E-40 album, Revenue Retrievin, is the Droop-E-produced “Spend the Night.” It’s notable not just for being completely bonkers on an album already full of ridiculous production, but also because Droop drew most of the samples from Medulla, the entirely acapella Bjork album from a couple years back that didn’t quite work as well as we’d hoped. Oh yeah—Bjork also cleared the samples.

Read more: http://www.thefader.com/2010/03/31/e-40-droop-e-and-bjork-collaborate-and-it-is-awesome/#ixzz0jql4eo1L

Z4ATNQ2wTnM

This one isn't as good cause the song doesn't suck.

Maybe Trent Reznor will team up with someone again.

lizng
04-01-2010, 05:42 AM
Google changed its name to Topeka. (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/different-kind-of-company-name.html)

amy2705
04-01-2010, 05:47 AM
http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/translateforanimals/tour.html

lizng
04-01-2010, 05:52 AM
http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/translateforanimals/tour.html

This would make my life as a cat lady a lot easier. Stop teasing me, Google.

HunterGather
04-01-2010, 06:13 AM
This one isn't as good cause the song doesn't suck.

Maybe Trent Reznor will team up with someone again.

I know! Love the Oceania sample :D

sonofhal
04-01-2010, 06:46 AM
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/secrets-bear.shtml?cpg=128H

canexplain
04-01-2010, 07:00 AM
The infoo bonnaroo board is an April Fools joke today.

In our morning meeting, there usually is about 30 people, I announced my co worker had resigned as of this morning. Not a single person picked up on it was Apr 1. You should have seen the jaws drop on the announcement. Then I of course said: April Fools

MassiveChemicalPunk
04-01-2010, 07:01 AM
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TomAz
04-01-2010, 07:11 AM
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lowfront
04-01-2010, 07:13 AM
my girlfriend told me her sister dinged my car this morning while backing out of the driveway.

I'm pretty laid back so didn't really care, but I did go out there inspecting my car.

MassiveChemicalPunk
04-01-2010, 07:14 AM
Hey Tom :) I love u.

TomAz
04-01-2010, 07:17 AM
I liked your joke. Or rather, I read into your joke some amusing things.

smooches.

canexplain
04-01-2010, 07:21 AM
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juloxx
04-01-2010, 07:24 AM
I love that they actually went through with the Tauntaun sleeping bag (http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/bb2e/) after so many people tried to order it.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/bb2e_tauntaun_sleeping_bag.jpg

Wow... I need one of those

fatbastard
04-01-2010, 07:43 AM
No actual joke. Just a story.

One of the managers who recently transferred to orange county use to go back and forth with my co-worker. They would play tricks on each other.

The best one he did was going to her phone and removing the cord from the receiver. He would go back into his office and wait for her to come back to her desk He would then dial 6 of the 7 digits of her phone number on his cell phone. He would walk up to her all serious asking a question while dialing the 7th number. She would pick up the phone (by then there was a crowd ready to watch) and keep saying hello while we were all laughing.

It never got old.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
04-01-2010, 07:45 AM
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/other/icade_main.jpg
ThinkGeek (http://www.thinkgeek.com)always has April Fools products like this iCade for your iPad.

this is actually awesome. I wish it was real.

shakermaker113
04-01-2010, 07:46 AM
when did april fool's jokes change from actually fooling people to being absolutely absurd? the starbucks one is funny sure, but that's not going to fool anyone.

the google one, though, this did make me laugh:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7ZYqYi4xigk/S7RDQpMd8_I/AAAAAAAAFy4/gweO6nrP1ds/s400/topeka_chart_04.png

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
04-01-2010, 07:51 AM
Google takes the prize this year.

nahuatldream
04-01-2010, 07:51 AM
I think the Onion should do straight reporting on April Fool's, it's the only thing that makes sense... that tauntaun sleeping bag is pretty sweet.

JustSteve
04-01-2010, 08:15 AM
i still have and cherish the full page newspaper ad taco bell did years ago where the claimed to have purchased the liberty bell and renamed it the taco liberty bell. i remember the shit hitting the fan and all the news outlets reporting on it, people up in arms. 'twas the best!

Hannahrain
04-01-2010, 08:21 AM
I'm taking it easy this year. I publicly (Facebook) wished my mother a happy (milestone birthday she has not yet reached) in the hopes that other people would see it and wish it too, but nothing beyond that.

shakermaker113
04-01-2010, 08:24 AM
one friend announced her pregnancy on facebook. she's still getting congratulated.

obzen
04-01-2010, 08:24 AM
"Your tauntaun will freeze before you reach the first marker."

"Then I'll see you in hell!!"


my friend got one for christmas and took the BEST pic.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs294.ash1/22149_542976359054_19300768_32331633_4168315_n.jpg

Rad.

fiyahhh!
04-01-2010, 08:38 AM
Switching the letter keys on the computers at work is always good for a quick chortle.

JustSteve
04-01-2010, 08:39 AM
don't most people type without looking at the keys, though?

TomAz
04-01-2010, 08:39 AM
who would even notice?

if you know someone with a blackberry change its default language settings to something like arabic. now that's funny.

fiyahhh!
04-01-2010, 08:42 AM
don't most people type without looking at the keys, though?

not the people in my department...

PlayaDelWes
04-01-2010, 08:47 AM
Taking a screen-print with a bunch of programs open, and making that the desktop and then hiding the taskbar and icons. "Why can't I click on anything". This really dumb chick in our office spent 30 minutes and she never really did figure it out. That screen-print was her desktop until the day she was RIFd.

Also, swapping everyone's wireless mice causes general chaos.

Hannahrain
04-01-2010, 08:49 AM
I also am a big fan of taking somebody's wallet and beating them to a bloody pulp.

JustSteve
04-01-2010, 08:51 AM
do you at least say "april fool's" and give it back to them afterward?

Hannahrain
04-01-2010, 08:53 AM
What's "April Fools'"?

PlayaDelWes
04-01-2010, 08:55 AM
No, that's when you say "It's APRIL Fooo!"

Hannahrain
04-01-2010, 09:00 AM
I don't get the joke. Why would I give it back?

GnarVee
04-01-2010, 09:08 AM
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq-locale=en_US&_requestid=33478

GeezrRckr
04-01-2010, 09:18 AM
even trent reznor is getting into it.

http://www.nin.com/pub/strobelight/

Hannahrain
04-01-2010, 09:25 AM
I'm taking it easy this year. I publicly (Facebook) wished my mother a happy (milestone birthday she has not yet reached) in the hopes that other people would see it and wish it too, but nothing beyond that.

Backfire. There is an angry and profane text message disagreeing about the funniness of my comedy laugh.

menikmati
04-01-2010, 09:26 AM
Switching the letter keys on the computers at work is always good for a quick chortle.

Just switch the keyboard setting to Dvorak, hahaha.

kreutz2112
04-01-2010, 09:34 AM
I might call and cancel my dentist appointment, that I confirmed I was attending yesterday, today and tell them I was playing an April fools joke on them. I really don't want to go.

TomAz
04-01-2010, 09:35 AM
Knock Knock.

Who's there?

April.

April who?

APRIL FOOLS!!!!!

GeezrRckr
04-01-2010, 09:54 AM
check out the gorillaz thread.

Stefinitely Maybe
04-01-2010, 03:05 PM
http://gothamist.com/2010/04/01/cruelest_april_fools_joke_so_far_in.php

tessalasset
04-01-2010, 03:15 PM
*REALLY* not that great. The burgers.

faxman75
04-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Or the joke.

shotglass75
04-01-2010, 03:18 PM
My friend just told me she had a miscarriage via text.

TomAz
04-01-2010, 03:19 PM
well that saves you the cost of the surgery then.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 03:29 PM
boycott that shit

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2930/innoutbiblereferenceor6.jpg

Still-ill
04-01-2010, 03:30 PM
That honestly offends you Zajaa?

suprefan
04-01-2010, 03:35 PM
*REALLY* not that great. The burgers.

:nono


Dont hate on Jesus beef.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 03:36 PM
i am extremely hostile toward any religion, and i make no bones about it.

TomAz
04-01-2010, 03:38 PM
that makes you the same as them

M Sparks
04-01-2010, 03:40 PM
*REALLY* not that great. The burgers.

Yeah, don't they have Five Guys there? There is a Five Guys and an In-N-Out about equidistant from my house...I don't go to either that often, but if I had to pick, I'd go Five Guys.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 03:43 PM
that makes you the same as them

in what sense? i've heard the whole "athiests are just as much fundamentalists as religious folks are" line before, and it is easily dispelled.

luckyface
04-01-2010, 03:46 PM
*REALLY* not that great. The burgers.

I'm with you Tessa.

I will say that the website's opinion of Father's Office burgers is spot on, though. That place is so wonderful.

woogie846
04-01-2010, 03:47 PM
Yeah, don't they have Five Guys there? There is a Five Guys and an In-N-Out about equidistant from my house...I don't go to either that often, but if I had to pick, I'd go Five Guys.

I was in DC yesterday, and valued my time with Five Guys so much that I had it for lunch on Tuesday and breakfast at Dulles Airport last morning. What an incredible burger.

weeklymix
04-01-2010, 03:50 PM
Don't you people have independent restaurants that make better burgers? A Five Guys opened up in San Antonio near my parents' house and there was nothing special about it.

TommyboyUNM
04-01-2010, 03:52 PM
Blake's Lotaburger and Rex's are both fucking amazing.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 03:53 PM
http://media.fukung.net/images/12964/victor-stenger-bus.jpg

miscorrections
04-01-2010, 03:53 PM
New York has the Shake Shack, I doubt they're crying.

TomAz
04-01-2010, 03:55 PM
http://media.fukung.net/images/12964/victor-stenger-bus.jpg

thinking by billboard. I bet you're really deep.

weeklymix
04-01-2010, 04:00 PM
in what sense? i've heard the whole "athiests are just as much fundamentalists as religious folks are" line before, and it is easily dispelled.

You're kind of an idiot here. Rejecting the existence of deities and choosing to be hostile toward people with religious beliefs are two entirely different things.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 04:01 PM
thinking by billboard. I bet you're really deep.

you're not offering any actual response, just throwing cute, clever little barbs. how about clarifying your original statement smart guy

zajaa
04-01-2010, 04:02 PM
You're kind of an idiot here. Rejecting the existence of deities and choosing to be hostile toward people with religious beliefs are two entirely different things.

You're kind of an idiot here. Being hostile toward religion and being hostile toward people with religious beliefs are two entirely different things.

TommyboyUNM
04-01-2010, 04:03 PM
zajaa, I give a fuck about your non-religion as much as I give a fuck about what BrokenDoll thinks about me consolidating my student loans.

I'm not religious and you sound like an asshole to me.

weeklymix
04-01-2010, 04:03 PM
Sorry for using the word people. Rejecting the existence of deities and being proactively against religion are two different things.

Being proactively against religion with any enthusiasm is no different from people spreading the good word. Get bent.

Mr.Nipples
04-01-2010, 04:04 PM
boycott that shit

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2930/innoutbiblereferenceor6.jpg

get fucking real...

Newro7ic
04-01-2010, 04:05 PM
You're kind of an idiot here. Being hostile toward religion and being hostile toward people with religious beliefs are two entirely different things.

Being hostile towards a great burger because the original creators have religious beliefs is a bit ridiculous. What did the burger ever do to you?

Newro7ic
04-01-2010, 04:06 PM
I'm suddenly craving In n Out. Praise jesus.

amyzzz
04-01-2010, 04:07 PM
TOMMY DOES BLAKES STILL HAVE BLACK RASPBERRY SHAKES???

Still-ill
04-01-2010, 04:07 PM
you're not offering any actual response, just throwing cute, clever little barbs. how about clarifying your original statement smart guy

Like Tom said, your alienating of religious folk is the same as the reverse. When some atheist has a cross taken down off public ground, the Christians do what? They boycott, bitch, moan, litigate, claim religious freedom. What happens when a popular fast-food chain puts a verse in tiny text on the bottom of a fucking cup? You say, "Boycott 'em". Atheists are just as annoying as the religious often times. Just settle down, to each his own.

TommyboyUNM
04-01-2010, 04:12 PM
TOMMY DOES BLAKES STILL HAVE BLACK RASPBERRY SHAKES???

I'm pretty sure they do. Their strawberry shakes are really good if they don't have black raspberry shakes. And seasoned fries. Those Mexican ladies can cook up some burgers and fries.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 04:16 PM
Sorry for using the word people. Rejecting the existence of deities and being proactively against religion are two different things.

Being proactively against religion with any enthusiasm is no different from people spreading the good word. Get bent.

of course it is. religion has been a terribly destructive force in the history of human evolution, the impetus for countless atrocities and injustices. any thinking person who can recognize this should feel compelled to vehemently oppose religion and attempts to proliferate religion, especially when it comes to indoctrinating children. i think the major error you "non-religious" religious apologists are making is sitting back believing that religions are benign and cause no harm.

i'm not going to tell you to "get bent" or resort to putting anyone down, in fact i'm not gonna sit here and do this because there are like half a dozen of you lifers pouncing right now.

TommyboyUNM
04-01-2010, 04:20 PM
Fact: Not eating at In N' Out Burger will stop religion's destruction and influence.

mountmccabe
04-01-2010, 04:21 PM
zajaa you'd get a better response if you said "I'mn't eating there because I do not want to support proselytization, even such as mild as this" because that is a reasonable position and you have every right to make that choice, just like In-n-Out has every right to choose to put bible verses on their cups and wrappers.

Saying "boycott this shit" and that you are "extremely hostile" paints an entirely different picture. You're being just as intolerant and ridiculous and controlling.


I would rather not see bible verses when I eat a hamburg either but shit, your tactics aren't going to fix anything.

PotVsKtl
04-01-2010, 04:24 PM
I don't know, my Wal-Mart boycott seems to be having a noticeable affect on their bottom line.

weeklymix
04-01-2010, 04:27 PM
http://memegenerator.net/Philosoraptor/ImageMacro/808647/Philosoraptor%20-%20If%20I%20dont%20eat%20burger%20Could%20I%20stil l%20get%20into%20Heaven.jpg

mountmccabe
04-01-2010, 04:30 PM
I don't know, my Wal-Mart boycott seems to be having a noticeable affect on their bottom line.

That'sn't what I mean. Not doing something because you'd need a ton of people to do it to make a noticeable difference is dumb.

What I mean is that I really am his target audience here. That is to say I would really rather not support companies that do such things. His approach is, however, more likely to turn me away from his cause than attract me.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 04:30 PM
well you are smart and make sense, so i will respond to you.

i see your points, and i mostly agree. however, what you call "intolerant" i see as refusing to sit idly by while a terribly destructive force lingers. i wouldn't call environmentalists "intolerant" of companies polluting the planet, for example. it's so easy to just say "oh they're religious wackos but at the end of the day they're harmless," but that just isn't the case.

also, i had never seen the word "I'mn't" before, but i'm gonna use it.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 04:32 PM
the boycott thing was being a bit facetious. i was more expressing a distaste for proselytization, as mccabe put it.

Still-ill
04-01-2010, 04:33 PM
Just out of curiosity.. do you find Buddhism destructive?

zajaa
04-01-2010, 04:36 PM
no, but then again i've read some very good arguments as to why calling Buddhism a 'religion' is kinda misguided in the first place.

JustSteve
04-01-2010, 04:37 PM
the boycott thing was being a bit facetious. i was more expressing a distaste for proselytization, as mccabe put it.

who looks at the bottom of their fucking cup anyway?

zajaa
04-01-2010, 04:42 PM
*distances self from mikey dmt*

shakermaker113
04-01-2010, 04:50 PM
ahaha. hahaha. one of my friends just got engaged for real. he proposed on april fool's day. nobody believes her. hahahaha. awesome. I'm going to try to make all serious dramatic announcements about my life on april 1st.

JustSteve
04-01-2010, 04:55 PM
even trent reznor is getting into it.

http://www.nin.com/pub/strobelight/

haha:
track list
1. intro skit
2. everybody's doing it (featuring chris martin, jay-z AND bono)
3. black t-shirt
4. pussygrinder (featuring sheryl crow)
5. coffin on the dancefloor
6. this rhythm is infected
7. slide to the dark side
8. even closer (featuring justin timberlake and maynard james keenan)
9. on the list (she's not)
10. clap trap crack slap
11. laid, paid and played (featuring fergie of the black eyed peas and al jourgensen)
12. feel like being dead again
13. still hurts (featuring alicia keys)
14. outro skit

shakermaker113
04-01-2010, 04:58 PM
wasn't that from last year?

JustSteve
04-01-2010, 04:59 PM
i played a joke on myself....walked out the front door of the house, closed the door behind me, and right away realized i left my keys inside - best part is the hide-a-key was inside, too, whoops. had to call my wife and get her to drive home from work to let me back in, but she wouldn't believe me since it's the first. finally convinced her after a few minutes, fortunately.

weeklymix
04-01-2010, 05:00 PM
who looks at the bottom of their fucking cup anyway?

I'm willing to bet zajaa has eaten at an In-N-Out even after finding out about the bible verses.

mountmccabe
04-01-2010, 05:00 PM
well you are smart and make sense, so i will respond to you.

Thank you. See how this works? I frame my response in terms you can understand and am calm and reasonable about it and you respond in kind.

When dealing with or attempting to communicate on more than just a base level with at least somewhat reasonable people this is what works. Attacking and being disrespectful get you a shitstorm.



i see your points, and i mostly agree. however, what you call "intolerant" i see as refusing to sit idly by while a terribly destructive force lingers.

Along the same lines you said


religion has been a terribly destructive force in the history of human evolution, the impetus for countless atrocities and injustices.

and while the latter is undeniable the former is decidedly false. Religion pre-dates civilization because it was religion what allowed people to become comforted, settled and unified enough to move on and start with the building huts and recording histories and designing aqueducts and distributing mp3s for free and such.

Even today religion is not entirely a destructive force; many find comfort and support from religion and the built in networks it can generate. While I agree that the world would be better off without religion that transition you're pushing for is an ugly, destructive thing, too.



it's so easy to just say "oh they're religious wackos but at the end of the day they're harmless," but that just isn't the case.

Some religious folks are wackos and are harmless. Most are, well, if not exactly harmless, at least only causing a background/replacement/average level of harm.

And the problem with approaching things in the way that you are is that you're going to offend all of them straight off. That is no way to open a dialogue. They're going to have the same response as many folks in this thread have, 'hey, wow, atheists are just as unreasonable as we are.'

Though, I suppose, as it takes all types, there're going to be some people that'll take your bait and argue and fight and later think and maybe even say whoah. But that isn't what got me down that path, at least.

mountmccabe
04-01-2010, 05:11 PM
DO YOU REMEMBER WHO KILLED GALILAYO?????????????????????????

Galileo Galiliei died of natural causes at 77, almost a decade after his heresy trial.

Also he believed in a Heliocentric universe because he worshiped the Sun.

Also "the Sun is the center of the universe" is just as unreasonable of a statement to stand behind as "the Earth is the center of the universe." Yes, the math is much easier when you look at it as the Earth and the other planets of our solar system rotating around our Sun, but, shit.

M Sparks
04-01-2010, 05:11 PM
wasn't that from last year?

Yup, old news.

mountmccabe
04-01-2010, 05:12 PM
Wait, is that true? Am I passing on a false story about Galileo?

zajaa
04-01-2010, 05:46 PM
i agree with your "catch more flies with honey than vinegar" outlook.. but actually i thought i was addressing an audience more sympathetic to my own viewpoint. but as it turns out, the people who got into such a tizzy over what i said are the worst kind of non-religious minds — the kind who understand what nonsensical garbage all major religions' dogmas are, and freely admit the harm caused by religion throughout the ages, yet still maintain this high-horse air of psuedo-nonjudgementalism. i'm sure they would all be quick to call me arrogant for coming down on religion and religious-types so harshly, yet there is something much more distinctly arrogant about the attitude of "well i'm not religious, but i will allow the more feeble-minded among us to believe whatever silly little thing they want," as well as something dangerously complacent about a decision to look past the damage brought about by religion out of a misbegotten desire to appear "tolerant."

zajaa
04-01-2010, 05:56 PM
very similar to my idea, but said better than i can:

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TommyboyUNM
04-01-2010, 06:01 PM
Just got back from having Five Guys Burgers for the first time. You all are fucking crazy if you think it's as good as In N' Out. It's good, but damn. The burgers were a little too overcooked. Maybe it's just the operation here, so I'm going to give it a few months and try again. Let them work out some of the kinks. I think it's been open for a week over here.

TommyboyUNM
04-01-2010, 06:04 PM
wasn't that from last year?

Yeah, but it was revisited by Nine Inch Nails' Facebook. They said that the album is still available.

amyzzz
04-01-2010, 06:05 PM
I'm pretty sure they do. Their strawberry shakes are really good if they don't have black raspberry shakes. And seasoned fries. Those Mexican ladies can cook up some burgers and fries.
Oh man. I need to get me some of that.

GeezrRckr
04-01-2010, 06:34 PM
yeah, i guess trent was pretty proud of himself as he sent a tweet this morning about it being the "one-year anniversary" or some shit. i realized it a bit later but left it because it is pretty damn funny (esp the song that's on repeat on the site).

psychic friend
04-01-2010, 06:51 PM
http://burncast.blogspot.com/2010/04/burning-man-signs-with-goldenvoice.html

mountmccabe
04-01-2010, 06:56 PM
i'm sure they would all be quick to call me arrogant for coming down on religion and religious-types so harshly, yet there is something much more distinctly arrogant about the attitude of "well i'm not religious, but i will allow the more feeble-minded among us to believe whatever silly little thing they want," as well as something dangerously complacent about a decision to look past the damage brought about by religion out of a misbegotten desire to appear "tolerant."

Saying that is arrogant. Thinking that is arrogant. But you're attacking a strawman.

My desire to not offend everybody and try to talk about things in a reasonable fashion is borne out of a realization that I don't know everything.

A: "I disagree with you and this is why. Please discuss this with me."

B: "I think you're wrong but that isn't any of my business."

C: "You're wrong and I'm going to beat you into submission until you agree with me."


People between A and B are reasonable people and contribute to progress. People who think like C lead to wars and persecution.

And I did not specify the presence or absence of religious beliefs in those statements because IT DOESN'T MATTER. Intolerant, controlling belligerent people are the problem, no matter what viewpoint they espouse.

Boourns
04-01-2010, 07:11 PM
When I was a kid, I was always annoyed over Chick-fil-a being closed on Sundays, especially when they had a sign that said "see you in church!"

zajaa
04-01-2010, 07:41 PM
i am all for being tolerant of people who don't share my opinion, but it only goes so far.

let's say you enter into an argument with someone of a different political leaning, you enter with the attitude in A above. you disagree but you tolerate. your attitude is, "i think i am right, but for all i know you could be right."

but what about entering into an argument with someone whose honest belief is that leprechauns exist? or how about someone who is claiming they have been abducted by aliens and visited other planets. they probably aren't harming anything by believing this, but you don't enter into the argument giving them the benefit of the doubt. no reasonable person would be so P.C. as to say "well hey, for all i know they might be right." you know better than that! at least i hope you do. you have reason that tells you they are 99.99999% likely to be incorrect, i.e. for all intents and purposes they are wrong.

now let's say you are to debate a person who was advocating genocide of a particular race. somewhere along the line you drop the whole moral relativism act and say "ok, this is just plain unacceptable. i don't care where you are from or what led you to this conclusion. there is no argument that would lead me to agree with you. this is an absolute, and not only is this idea not up for debate, it would be dangerous to even consider it."

my position is that religion beliefs fall somewhere between the second and third examples, probably closer to the third because of the extent of detriment to society they have caused. when faced with a religious person, i view them as wrong a priori. i do not have to "tolerate" them "no matter what viewpoint they espouse" as you say, just like i don't have to tolerate an advocate of racism or rape or murder. i draw the line, i have a limit.

boarderwoozel3
04-01-2010, 08:17 PM
You do realize that religion is and incredibly positive force in millions of people's lives as well, yes?

weeklymix
04-01-2010, 08:20 PM
http://memegenerator.net/Philosoraptor/ImageMacro/811183/Philosoraptor%20-%20Watched%20religulous%20Probably%20an%20expert%2 0on%20the%20subject%20right.jpg

Edit: Directed at zajaa.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 08:26 PM
even if I conceded that point, the good comes nowhere close to outweighing the detriment, and none of the supposed "good" that comes from religion would be impossible without religion. whatever good you are referring to, whether it's charity or philanthropy, a sense of right and wrong / system if morality, a sense of comfort regarding existential questions - these are all possible, and in sone cases much more likely to arise, without religion.

zajaa
04-01-2010, 08:32 PM
religulous was skepticism for dummies, bill maher is nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is, and your little barbs are not contributing to the conversation in the least.

juloxx
04-01-2010, 10:25 PM
http://burncast.blogspot.com/2010/04/burning-man-signs-with-goldenvoice.html

That's fucking amazing. I hope this isnt an April Fools joke.

shakermaker113
04-01-2010, 10:56 PM
who merged a thread about april fool's jokes with a thread about religion?

edit: oooooooooooh.