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TickleMeElmo
02-08-2010, 01:39 PM
I know it's been mentioned in other threads but it deserves its own goddammit.

Seriously... WTF

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 01:40 PM
It's fucking bullshit

Monklish
02-08-2010, 01:41 PM
Who the fuck cares.

Coachella Bound
02-08-2010, 01:42 PM
so wait... shes off the lineup now? is that what all this hallabaloo is about?

seriouslypeople
02-08-2010, 01:47 PM
...there will be a few very unhappy friends.

Davids81
02-08-2010, 01:49 PM
Who the fuck cares.


*+1

GuyInTucson
02-08-2010, 01:52 PM
*+1

+ 2

dontfeedthebird
02-08-2010, 01:53 PM
or three.

corbo
02-08-2010, 01:57 PM
WHO???

+4

Cuddlesthesheep
02-08-2010, 01:58 PM
no one gives a shit

Riot Nrrrd™
02-08-2010, 01:59 PM
Who the fuck cares.

I do. Her Hollywood Bowl show last year was completely off the chain.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 02:00 PM
no one gives a shit

Then fuck off out of the thread. Easy.

Cuddlesthesheep
02-08-2010, 02:01 PM
awww... sad face..

COACHILLA
02-08-2010, 02:01 PM
Who the fuck cares.

finally I agree with this dick

JebusLives
02-08-2010, 02:02 PM
Aw look, Randy has his own little thread of sycophant lurkers. How cute.

I'm upset, but at least my friends won't accuse me of being closeted for dragging them to see her.

buffalojim
02-08-2010, 02:02 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFF

Monklish
02-08-2010, 02:05 PM
I do. Her Hollywood Bowl show last year was completely off the chain.

As a rule, people who use the phrase "off the chain" shouldn't be allowed to come to Coachella.


Aw look, Randy has his own little thread of sycophant lurkers. How cute.

I'm upset, but at least my friends won't accuse me of being closeted for dragging them to see her.

So because people agree with me their sycophants? Ever considered that maybe my opinion is just in the majority? You sound like Suffacated.

Maybe now they'll just accuse you of being closeted because your breath smells like jizz.

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 02:08 PM
I don't care all that much, but she was a pretty name on the poster. I'd definitely watch her over Tom Morello's subpar fucking bullshit band.

nationocean
02-08-2010, 02:16 PM
Just shut the fuck up and let the people who actually care about Grace Jones talk about it. Fucking every other shit band gets a thread and this one is actually needed.

Deal with it and die of aids you fucking cunt licking shit bags.

Riot Nrrrd™
02-08-2010, 02:18 PM
As a rule, people who use the phrase "off the chain" shouldn't be allowed to come to Coachella.


6830 posts in just over a year. That's an average of 19 a day. Guess you only have time to monitor all the boards and post asinine remarks, apparently.

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 02:25 PM
Wow :( Why Grace? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

electrocute
02-08-2010, 02:33 PM
AWW MAN!!! I was really really excited about this :( :(

Dr. Lufs-al-ot
02-08-2010, 02:37 PM
6830 posts in just over a year. That's an average of 19 a day. Guess you only have time to monitor all the boards and post asinine remarks, apparently.

I love when people attack post counts. It makes me lol.

Now please, get back to your bitch fit, it also makes me lol.

JustSteve
02-08-2010, 02:39 PM
dammit, now i can't use "Riot Nrrrd" anywhere else since it's trademarked.

Westy
02-08-2010, 02:39 PM
Looks like she's playing shows in England around Coachella time:

http://www.nme.com/news/grace-jones/49627

MassiveChemicalPunk
02-08-2010, 02:41 PM
I love when people attack post counts. It makes me lol.

Now please, get back to your bitch fit, it also makes me lol.

Well, if you count all of Randy's aliases post count..... it's clear that he doesn't have a life.

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 02:42 PM
Looks like she's playing shows in England around Coachella time:

http://www.nme.com/news/grace-jones/49627

So is Gary Numan and he'll be at coachella. Unless.....

n3glect
02-08-2010, 02:43 PM
This is a huge loss for the festival.

Dr. Lufs-al-ot
02-08-2010, 02:43 PM
Well, if you count all of Randy's aliases post count..... it's clear that he doesn't have a life.

I wasnt sticking up for him, in fact, I dont really care about the topic of that little scwab, I just wanted to comment and say I find it funny when people attack post counts.

GuyInTucson
02-08-2010, 02:44 PM
This is not a huge loss for the festival.

fixed

Botrocker
02-08-2010, 02:45 PM
Whats the deal here?

Thats actually quite a solid act to lose.

Dr. Lufs-al-ot
02-08-2010, 02:47 PM
Think of the positives, now we can get someone better.

Hannahrain
02-08-2010, 02:47 PM
Well, fuck.

Edmontonian
02-08-2010, 02:47 PM
One less conflict for Friday night. I would have liked to see her.

Botrocker
02-08-2010, 02:49 PM
Think of the positives, now we can get someone better.

Like who?

She's a legend and her live shows are incredible. There is no one else that they can get to make up for this.

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 02:49 PM
You guys are forgetting the most important part.....


Not only do we lose a great act we lose a lot of fun gays. Booooooo

rocketfuelisthekey
02-08-2010, 02:50 PM
Wow, I just noticed. Very, very sad. I consider her to be a cultural icon from the 80s that hasn't "lost it." She was one of the acts on the bill that separate Coachella from the other festivals in the states, one that gives Coach an edge that other festivals don't have. This is a serious loss, but in perspective there are plenty of other acts to enjoy. Maybe 2011?

FoxeyLady
02-08-2010, 02:50 PM
You guys are forgetting the most important part.....


Not only do we lose a great act we lose a lot of fun gays. Booooooo


Dammit, I love the gays!

mickflyy
02-08-2010, 02:50 PM
+ 5

ZackQ
02-08-2010, 02:51 PM
Damn.

Botrocker
02-08-2010, 02:54 PM
Wow, I just noticed. Very, very sad. I consider her to be a cultural icon from the 80s that hasn't "lost it." She was one of the acts on the bill that separate Coachella from the other festivals in the states, one that gives Coach an edge that other festivals don't have. This is a serious loss, but in perspective there are plenty of other acts to enjoy. Maybe 2011?

Exactly. Friday looks alot slimmer now because of this.

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 02:57 PM
Look at the positive, now that Grace Jones is out that frees up more room/money for Royksopp and Massive Attack.

Foucault
02-08-2010, 02:58 PM
Count me among those who are very sad. I would have loved to see Ms. Jones--her performances are legendary.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 02:58 PM
Exactly. Friday looks alot slimmer now because of this.

Right. Since roughly 2% of that day's lineup is now gone.

Botrocker
02-08-2010, 02:58 PM
Look at the positive, now that Grace Jones is out that frees up more room/money for Royksopp and Massive Attack.

True.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:00 PM
Oh scratch that. A new act was also added to Friday, so Friday actually does not look any slimmer at all.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:01 PM
Who was added to Friday?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:01 PM
Street Sweeper Social Club - Tom Morello + a dude from The Coup

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:02 PM
I've seen 'em. They blow.

ZackQ
02-08-2010, 03:02 PM
I guess this means less potential conflicts for acts I really want to see Friday, since one is now out of the mix. That's a good thing, right?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-08-2010, 03:04 PM
this is depressing.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:04 PM
Meh. Street Sweeper Social Club are fucking wack. 90s frat bro lameness.

ZackQ
02-08-2010, 03:04 PM
Meh. Street Sweeper Social Club are fucking wack. 90s frat bro lameness.

Just a couple of guys who write songs about redistribution of wealth trying to make a buck.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:04 PM
I'm not saying they're sweet. I'm refuting the suggestion that Friday is now "slimmer."

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:05 PM
I got ya MMJ.

But yeah, they queef wackness.

Hannahrain
02-08-2010, 03:05 PM
Oh scratch that. A new act was also added to Friday, so Friday actually does not look any slimmer at all.

While it's not technically slimmer, the loss of Grace Jones is like dressing Friday in a well-cut all-black number that accentuates its natural waist with clean lines and clever draping. It looks slimmer.

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 03:05 PM
Tom Morello's a one-trick pony, and the trick only worked in Rage.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:06 PM
Hercules & Love Affair redux

Gribbz
02-08-2010, 03:06 PM
Like who?

She's a legend and her live shows are incredible. There is no one else that they can get to make up for this.

Grace Jones is a legend?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:06 PM
Grace Jones is a legend?

I was unaware Grace Jones performed music until about 2 months ago.

superfiction
02-08-2010, 03:08 PM
Tom Morello's a one-trick pony, and the trick only worked in Rage.

this.

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 03:08 PM
Grace Jones is a legend?

Not really in music persay. But Music, Fashion, Movies, Modeling, everything she does, she does well. A renaissance woman you may say. Maybe icon is the better word.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:09 PM
Not really in music persay. But Music, Fashion, Movies, Modeling, everything she does, she does well. A renaissance woman you may say. Maybe icon is the better word.

I disagree with her doing movies well.

Gribbz
02-08-2010, 03:11 PM
I was unaware Grace Jones performed music until about 2 months ago.

Not really in music persay. But Music, Fashion, Movies, Modeling, everything she does, she does well. A renaissance woman you may say. Maybe icon is the better word.

I remember her having a few cameos in some 80's flicks... didn't know about her other interests.

alleysin
02-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Look at the positive, now that Grace Jones is out that frees up more room/money for Royksopp and Massive Attack.

Im all about it!

I would have liked to see Grace Jones though. I was so curious about it all.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Here's her sparkling IMDB resume:


Falco - Verdammt, wir leben noch! (2008) .... Kellnerin
... aka Falco: Damn It, We're Still Alive! (Europe: English title: festival title)
Shaka Zulu: The Citadel (2001) (TV) .... The Queen
Wolf Girl (2001) (TV) .... Christoph/Christine
... aka Blood Moon (Canada: English title: video title) (USA: DVD title)

"BeastMaster" .... Nokinja (1 episode, 1999)
- The Umpatra (1999) TV episode .... Nokinja
Palmer's Pick Up (1999) .... Ms. Remo
McCinsey's Island (1998) .... Alanso Richter
Cyber Bandits (1995) .... Masako Yokohama
Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller (1995) (VG) (voice) .... Solene Solux
Boomerang (1992) .... Strangé

Siesta (1987) .... Conchita
Straight to Hell (1987) .... Sonya
Vamp (1986) .... Katrina
A View to a Kill (1985) .... May Day
Conan the Destroyer (1984) .... Zula
Deadly Vengeance (1981) .... Slick's girlfriend
... aka Sweet Vengeance (USA: alternative title)

Attention les yeux! (1976) .... Cuidy
... aka Let's Make a Dirty Movie
Gordon's War (1973) .... Mary

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 03:13 PM
I remember her having a few cameos in some 80's flicks... didn't know about her other interests.

She was also on Pee Wee's playhouse. And she hung out with Andy
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RwmGaB6TA0s/SfuCCgWrcpI/AAAAAAAAEbc/Spv296YFJKk/s400/TWGJ58.jpg

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:14 PM
"Renaissance Woman"

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 03:14 PM
Here's her sparkling IMDB resume:

I'm not saying she should have won oscars, just saying she had another talent to round out her skills. You make it seem like she was just in a bunch of Scary Movie sequels.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:15 PM
I'm not saying she should have won oscars, just saying she had another talent to round out her skills. You make it seem like she was just in a bunch of Scary Movie sequels.

No, then she would have been more relevant as an actress.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Everyone that hung out with Andy Warhol was and is a talentless fucking douchebag.

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Not really in music persay. But Music, Fashion, Movies, Modeling, everything she does, she does well. A renaissance woman you may say. Maybe icon is the better word.

I disagree with your spelling of per se.

SoulDischarge
02-08-2010, 03:16 PM
FUCK. This ruins my day. I don't even know if I have it in me to continue with the Gay Orgy. And I'd much rather see Grace Jones than Massive Attack or Royksopp or a good number of other acts. She was in my top 5 for the weekend. Fuck this.

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Either way it is a loss. I'm jealous of you Hollywood Bowl people who saw this
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alleysin
02-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Everyone that hung out with Andy Warhol was and is a talentless fucking douchebag.

you should have a theme song play for everytime you ruin people's good time.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm looking for the logical link between Grace Jones drop and Royksopp/Massive Attack add, btw, if anyone wants to fill me in.

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 03:18 PM
FUCK. This ruins my day. I don't even know if I have it in me to continue with the Gay Orgy. And I'd much rather see Grace Jones than Massive Attack or Royksopp or a good number of other acts. She was in my top 5 for the weekend. Fuck this.

Sorry man. That sucks. Then again, I'd rather have Royksopp or Massive Attack, so bring it on!

ZackQ
02-08-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm looking for the logical link between Grace Jones drop and Royksopp/Massive Attack add, btw, if anyone wants to fill me in.

I'm guessing it's wishful thinking.

alleysin
02-08-2010, 03:19 PM
I'm looking for the logical link between Grace Jones drop and Royksopp/Massive Attack add, btw, if anyone wants to fill me in.

maybe...anticipation?

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 03:20 PM
I'm looking for the logical link between Grace Jones drop and Royksopp/Massive Attack add, btw, if anyone wants to fill me in.

I didn't say there was anything logical about it, but I'm still holding out for Royksopp on Friday and if it happens I will look at it, illogically, as a trade for Grace Jones.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:20 PM
maybe...anticipation?

Are you offering that as an answer?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:20 PM
I didn't say there was anything logical about it, but I'm still holding out for Royksopp on Friday and if it happens I will look at it, illogically, as a trade for Grace Jones.

Got it. Follow up question: What is the significance of Friday specifically for a Royksopp add?

alleysin
02-08-2010, 03:20 PM
yes, but not a firm one!

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-08-2010, 03:23 PM
FUCK. This ruins my day. I don't even know if I have it in me to continue with the Gay Orgy. And I'd much rather see Grace Jones than Massive Attack or Royksopp or a good number of other acts. She was in my top 5 for the weekend. Fuck this.

this.

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 03:23 PM
Got it. Follow up question: What is the significance of Friday specifically for a Royksopp add?

Erlend 0ye on their two biggest early hits, including the Geico commercial song, is playing Friday with The Whitest Boy Alive. Karin Dreijer-Anderssen is playing Friday as Fever Ray, and she is all over Royksopp's last two albums.

Thus, for any Royksopp fan, Friday is a fucking dream.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:24 PM
This is a net loss for the lineup regardless of your opinion of Ms Jones.

We lost a legend and a name unique to American festivals and we gained an act that would get the 2pm slot at BFD (who also happen to suck terribly)

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:24 PM
Acceptable response.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:24 PM
This is a net loss for the lineup regardless of your opinion of Ms Jones.

We lost a legend and a name unique to American festivals and we gained an act that would get the 2pm slot at BFD (who also happen to suck terribly)

"legend"

beavington
02-08-2010, 03:24 PM
Who the fuck cares.

obviously you do and there is no disputing that. Try to play it off all you want.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:25 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22grace+jones+is+a+legend%22&aq=f&aqi=&oq=


"Grace Jones is a legend"

118,000.

SoulDischarge
02-08-2010, 03:26 PM
Just because you didn't know shit about her until a month ago doesn't make her any less of a legend.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:27 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22grace+jones+is+a+legend%22&aq=f&aqi=&oq=


"Grace Jones is a legend"

118,000.

Funny. I get 15.

donkey sex
02-08-2010, 03:27 PM
I like how she didn’t show up for the Arcadia music video either. They put a giant black horse in her place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snHsnpiQs3Q

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Just because you didn't know shit about her until a month ago doesn't make her any less of a legend.

Right, but I've yet to hear any sort of substantive proof of her "legendary" status. Now, if someone wants to qualify it as "legendary in the gay community", I'll be fine with that.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:28 PM
obviously you do and there is no disputing that. Try to play it off all you want.

I don't see how that's obvious even remotely. I don't care in the slightest about Grace Jones.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HvgGt.jpg

beavington
02-08-2010, 03:29 PM
you should have a theme song play for everytime you ruin people's good time.

please dont give it the satisfaction. psuedo internet bully makes good.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:29 PM
Do I not understand Google? I get that it says that, but then there are only 2 pages of results and only 15 total. if i search other things I get way more results than that.

beavington
02-08-2010, 03:29 PM
I don't see how that's obvious even remotely. I don't care in the slightest about Grace Jones.

uh yeah you do or you wouldnt comment so much. Artists i truly dont care about i dont even open those threads. So you do care, even if it is to care to be a bitter whiny bitch.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:30 PM
They would like you to take into account the 118,985 results that are all just regurgitated results from those same 15 pages.

ZackQ
02-08-2010, 03:31 PM
I was totally going to try and nail her too, I think I had a pretty good shot...

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:31 PM
Lol. 15 results. Yahoo! got around 25. You should have used that one in solidifying my point.

beavington
02-08-2010, 03:31 PM
I was totally going to try and nail her too, I think I had a pretty good shot...

she looks like she could eat you up and spit you out and leave your with blue balls just for fun.

psycobetabuckdown
02-08-2010, 03:32 PM
I'll accept "icon" but not "legend," but only if you quantify it or back it up with something besides listing her previous jobs.

SoulDischarge
02-08-2010, 03:33 PM
Right, but I've yet to hear any sort of substantive proof of her "legendary" status. Now, if someone wants to qualify it as "legendary in the gay community", I'll be fine with that.

That's retarded. You can't prove that anyone is a legend, so I'm not going to bother to argue it any more. She's a legend in my mind and several other people's on here, and completely irrelevant to others. Let us have our fucking loss in peace cocksuckers.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:34 PM
I consider you a legend.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:34 PM
You queers realize that in the gay world Erasure are legends too, right?

ZackQ
02-08-2010, 03:35 PM
Erasure are gay?

SoulDischarge
02-08-2010, 03:35 PM
So you were at the Gay Orgy last year after all.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:35 PM
Let me add that I was planning on checking out this set.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:35 PM
This is dumb.
This thread is now a magnet for people that want to argue semantics for no real reason at all.

Doesnt matter if you like her or not. She was a rare name. She's out and has been replaced by someone not terribly good and definitely not rare.

And if you didnt care at all thats fine, but if not youre just trolling. Im not terribly interested in that, so whatever.

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 03:35 PM
Right, but I've yet to hear any sort of substantive proof of her "legendary" status. Now, if someone wants to qualify it as "legendary in the gay community", I'll be fine with that.

Gay Community.
Female Community.
Fashion Community.
Live Music & Theatrics Community.

She is a show in herself. Madonna would have never been as risk taking as she was if Grace Jones didn't exist.

Whether you like her or hate her Grace Jones was going to be an excellent set @ Coachella.

alleysin
02-08-2010, 03:36 PM
You queers realize that in the gay world Erasure are legends too, right?

so is that hat! ;)

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:37 PM
This is dumb.
This thread is now a magnet for people that want to argue semantics for no real reason at all.

Doesnt matter if you like her or not. She was a rare name. She's out and has been replaced by someone not terribly good and definitely not rare.

And if you didnt care at all thats fine, but if not youre just trolling. Im not terribly interested in that, so whatever.

I apologize. Now you apologize for misrepresenting Google results.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:37 PM
so is that hat! ;)

lulzapult

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:37 PM
I want Google to apologize too.

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:40 PM
EzvZmQaJo68

Hmmmmmm, lets see.

DO I go with Warhol, Haring, Basquiat, and the otehrs that appear in this clip, etc....

Or do I accept a very compelling case made by message board trolls?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:41 PM
That video has 54,097 more hits than "Grace Jones is a legend"

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:43 PM
Hehehehe

HandBanana
02-08-2010, 03:46 PM
That video has 54,097 more hits than "Grace Jones is a legend"

"This thread is now a magnet for people that want to argue semantics for no real reason at all. "

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:47 PM
Hey, nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to cite Google results as support for your argument.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 03:47 PM
I like that HandBanana is all serious business about trolling.

M Sparks
02-08-2010, 03:47 PM
You queers realize that in the gay world Erasure are legends too, right?

I actually saw Erasure in Salt Lake City. I think every openly gay man in Utah was there (about 1800). They were great, too.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 03:48 PM
I actually am sad to see Grace Jones not be on the lineup. It's the sheer hyperbole and delusion in this thread that's made me that bad guy ONCE AGAIN.

nationocean
02-08-2010, 03:52 PM
^ BAD GUY!!!



skittles.

boarderwoozel3
02-08-2010, 04:06 PM
Well this certainly blows. But being the diva that she is I can't say this is entirely shocking.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 04:07 PM
I just hope that The Legend Gary Numan doesn't drop out next.

SoulDischarge
02-08-2010, 04:14 PM
Go fuck yourself.

nationocean
02-08-2010, 04:20 PM
This is a huge loss for the festival.

Yes.

TheClares
02-08-2010, 04:20 PM
Count me as one of the inconsequential people who are disappointed by this. I was planning on catching her set for her unique stage performance.

guedita
02-08-2010, 04:25 PM
Well this certainly blows. But being the diva that she is I can't say this is entirely shocking.

Do you think it was a "Oh hell no I'm not playing on that stage at that time" sort of thing?

To be honest, I probably wouldn't have caught her set because of everything else going on. And then I would have felt like it would have been cool to see her and bummed that I didn't. So I'm sorry to everyone super stoked about her, but this works out well for me in an entirely selfish way.

PotVsKtl
02-08-2010, 04:30 PM
Grace Jones is nothing but a series of costume changes. Good riddance.

JewFace
02-08-2010, 04:38 PM
Randy, seriously, I usually get along with you just fine, but STFU. Whether you or MJA realize it Grace Jones is one of the most iconic performers of the 80s. A woman who had not released an album in two decades and rarely ever performed in the last 20 years suddenly reappeared still looking amazing for her 60s, still sounding fantastic, still making great music with producers like Tricky and still putting on captivating live shows that had little in the way of spectacle other than couture costumes, massive wind fans and lighting. But that's all she needs because unlike so many other (no doubt talented) performers today, she had and still has incredible stage presence. When this woman steps on stage she owns it. I saw her at the Bowl this past summer and was pretty far away but it didn't matter. It could have been an intimate 1,000 person venue because she is so damn magnetic; she just draws you in.

AND, the other reason we're upset is that while she's been playing the UK, Europe and Australia almost constantly for the last two years she's played a total of TWO shows in the US -- Hollywood Bowl and NY. That's it. This was what looked to be a rare opportunity to see Grace in the US. So just shut up and let us whine, God damn it! There is so much bitching, moaning and hand wringing on this bloody site. FOR ONCE, it's fucking justified.

For you, try and imagine if the Yeah Yeah Yeahs went away for two decades, suddenly re-emerged, released an album that was just as strong as the stuff they released in their early career, toured all over the world except the US, then got added to the Coachella lineup and then got removed. I imagine that you would not care for that. Now just go smoke an electric cigarette and chill and let the rest of us take care of this thread. And MJA, shouldn't you be reading about Constitutional law or something?

Pro or Conor
02-08-2010, 04:40 PM
This is really really really horrible news for me. My gay boyfriend is going to be super depressed now and this will pretty much ruin his unprecedented excitement about Coachella 2010.

We need a gay icon late addition desperately. Like now, before he gets home from work.

SoulDischarge
02-08-2010, 04:41 PM
Thank you for that.

elChurro
02-08-2010, 04:43 PM
I know goldenvoice has the right to change the lineup (according to the fine print) but a post on who's dropped and been added would be cool, it seems a bit misleading not too.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 04:55 PM
Randy, seriously, I usually get along with you just fine, but STFU. Whether you or MJA realize it Grace Jones is one of the most iconic performers of the 80s. A woman who had not released an album in two decades and rarely ever performed in the last 20 years suddenly reappeared still looking amazing for her 60s, still sounding fantastic, still making great music with producers like Tricky and still putting on captivating live shows that had little in the way of spectacle other than couture costumes, massive wind fans and lighting. But that's all she needs because unlike so many other (no doubt talented) performers today, she had and still has incredible stage presence. When this woman steps on stage she owns it. I saw her at the Bowl this past summer and was pretty far away but it didn't matter. It could have been an intimate 1,000 person venue because she is so damn magnetic; she just draws you in.

AND, the other reason we're upset is that while she's been playing the UK, Europe and Australia almost constantly for the last two years she's played a total of TWO shows in the US -- Hollywood Bowl and NY. That's it. This was what looked to be a rare opportunity to see Grace in the US. So just shut up and let us whine, God damn it! There is so much bitching, moaning and hand wringing on this bloody site. FOR ONCE, it's fucking justified.

For you, try and imagine if the Yeah Yeah Yeahs went away for two decades, suddenly re-emerged, released an album that was just as strong as the stuff they released in their early career, toured all over the world except the US, then got added to the Coachella lineup and then got removed. I imagine that you would not care for that. Now just go smoke an electric cigarette and chill and let the rest of us take care of this thread. And MJA, shouldn't you be reading about Constitutional law or something?

Why, you're right. Now that I think about it, Grace Jones was totally the Lady Gaga of the 80s.

Oh wait, that means she sucked.

sbessiso
02-08-2010, 04:57 PM
This sucks :(

where is the gay orgy taking place now?

JewFace
02-08-2010, 04:57 PM
Why, you're right. Now that I think about it, Grace Jones was totally the Lady Gaga of the 80s.
Oh wait, that means she sucked.

Now you're just trying to bait me because you know I can't stand GaGa and resent that comparison. There is more artistry in one Grace Jones concert than there is in GaGa's entire career.



I actually am sad to see Grace Jones not be on the lineup. It's the sheer hyperbole and delusion in this thread that's made me that bad guy ONCE AGAIN.

Of course there's going to be hyperbole. It's an emotion filled Grace Jones thread filled with gay men. Duh.

boarderwoozel3
02-08-2010, 04:58 PM
JF has it right. It would have been a rare opportunity to see a top performer in a dynamic environment.


Do you think it was a "Oh hell no I'm not playing on that stage at that time" sort of thing?

To be honest, I probably wouldn't have caught her set because of everything else going on. And then I would have felt like it would have been cool to see her and bummed that I didn't. So I'm sorry to everyone super stoked about her, but this works out well for me in an entirely selfish way.

Stage assignment, set times and billing were the first things that came to mind. But it's all speculation anyway. Disappointing, whatever the reason.

Monklish
02-08-2010, 05:00 PM
Now you're just trying to bait me because you know I can't stand GaGa and resent that comparison. There is more artistry in one Grace Jones concert than there is in GaGa's entire career.

Costumes--check.

Weird face--check.

Gay dance anthems--check.


I'm sorry, what am I missing?

nationocean
02-08-2010, 05:08 PM
Costumes--check.

Weird face--check.

Gay dance anthems--check.


I'm sorry, what am I missing?

That she had my gay babies.

boarderwoozel3
02-08-2010, 05:12 PM
Essentialist douchebaggery, not a good look.

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 05:30 PM
Costumes--check.

Weird face--check.

Gay dance anthems--check.


I'm sorry, what am I missing?

Talent, Stage Presence, etc

mickflyy
02-08-2010, 05:48 PM
This sucks :(

where is the gay orgy taking place now?

during tiesto's set on the opposite side as the mosh pit

SoulDischarge
02-08-2010, 05:54 PM
No fucking way is my Gay Orgy taking place anywhere near talentless dickcheese's set.

JustSteve
02-08-2010, 06:16 PM
maybe ron will come to coachella now.

JewFace
02-08-2010, 06:22 PM
The Lady GaGa argument is lazy and easy (you know, like BD). But I suppose with GaGa's massive popularity and ubiquity it's inevitable now. On that note, GaGa is far more well known and popular than Grace ever was or ever will be. And that's at least partly because GaGa's so safe. Yes, she throws "blood" on her face on stage, yes she might have had a penis, she has her outlandish costumes and her massive spectacles but she seems just like a little girl playing dress up. It never feels threatening.

It might seem quaint to us now in 2010, but at the height of her talents and output in the 80s, Grace was an imposing and even aggressively threatening figure. She's softened that toughness a bit now that she's in her 60s, but she never was and never will be as easily digestible and inoffensive as GaGa. When you see her perform she is absolutely commanding and in complete control, but there's always a belief that she might really be this crazy and kooky in real life. With GaGa, all I get is a little girl playing dress up and drowning in her massive stage spectacle.




Costumes--check.
No doubt GaGa has an impressive army of designers and stylists. Though, the cost of one of GaGa's costumes is probably the entire costume budget for a Grace Jones tour. But even if Grace could afford costumes as elaborate as GaGa's, the real difference would be that the costumes wear GaGa, whereas Grace wears the costumes.




Weird face--check.
Whether you think she was or is attractive, I don't care. In her youth, Grace was a model whose striking looks made her one of the top in her field. In the 80s she turned perceived notions of beauty on their head with her purposefully harsh and provocatively ambiguous androgyny. And, frankly, with her modeling experience and the fact that she studied theatre in college, she knows how to own a stage. When she stands on a stage and stares coldly out into the house, she owns the audience with that face.

To me, GaGa just looks dead behind the eyes. It's not cool detachment, it's like she looks like she literally might be brain dead. She needs all of that spectacle because she is not in possession of the natural talent Grace has to simply stand on a stage and focus every eye in the house on her like a laser.





Gay dance anthems--check.
Grace has a big gay audience, but I don't think this one works. All of her real dance music came out on her earlier disco albums which were, to be kind, a mixed bag. It wasn't until she dropped disco and found new wave that she came into her own as an artist.




I'm sorry, what am I missing?

The music, dude. GaGa's is nauseating and pedestrian, Grace's is some of the best music of the early 80s.


Okay, I'm done wasting my time discussing that silly 23 year old girl.

JebusLives
02-08-2010, 06:28 PM
He's just trolling, JewFace

C DUB YA
02-08-2010, 06:28 PM
fixed

A Coachella line up with Grace Jones in it is better than one without her in it. Whether you care about her or not, she's a dynamic name and adds originality to Coachella's line up. Acts like Grace Jones are just one of the reasons Coachella is what it is and the rest of the festivals are not.

blackchango
02-08-2010, 06:42 PM
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shitty news ! I was hoping to hear this one performed live on the polo field Friday night ! This track wasnt palyed at the bowl show. And BTW that bowl show was off da chchchchchcain!

karma_guy
02-08-2010, 06:52 PM
fuuuck
she was one of my must sees!

oh well, knowing coachella they'll replace her with something pretty great

C DUB YA
02-08-2010, 06:53 PM
fuuuck
she was one of my must sees!

oh well, knowing coachella they'll replace her with something pretty great

They replaced her with Bad Lieutenant

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 06:56 PM
Seems like gay orgy should be moved to Gossip.

boarderwoozel3
02-08-2010, 06:56 PM
Not a bad option.

C DUB YA
02-08-2010, 06:57 PM
Not a bad option.

it will be the sweatier option, thats for sure.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 07:03 PM
Well, you know how I like my manhugs...

crazzz2007
02-08-2010, 07:05 PM
Randy, seriously, I usually get along with you just fine, but STFU. Whether you or MJA realize it Grace Jones is one of the most iconic performers of the 80s. A woman who had not released an album in two decades and rarely ever performed in the last 20 years suddenly reappeared still looking amazing for her 60s, still sounding fantastic, still making great music with producers like Tricky and still putting on captivating live shows that had little in the way of spectacle other than couture costumes, massive wind fans and lighting. But that's all she needs because unlike so many other (no doubt talented) performers today, she had and still has incredible stage presence. When this woman steps on stage she owns it. I saw her at the Bowl this past summer and was pretty far away but it didn't matter. It could have been an intimate 1,000 person venue because she is so damn magnetic; she just draws you in.

AND, the other reason we're upset is that while she's been playing the UK, Europe and Australia almost constantly for the last two years she's played a total of TWO shows in the US -- Hollywood Bowl and NY. That's it. This was what looked to be a rare opportunity to see Grace in the US. So just shut up and let us whine, God damn it! There is so much bitching, moaning and hand wringing on this bloody site. FOR ONCE, it's fucking justified.

For you, try and imagine if the Yeah Yeah Yeahs went away for two decades, suddenly re-emerged, released an album that was just as strong as the stuff they released in their early career, toured all over the world except the US, then got added to the Coachella lineup and then got removed. I imagine that you would not care for that. Now just go smoke an electric cigarette and chill and let the rest of us take care of this thread. And MJA, shouldn't you be reading about Constitutional law or something?

you are fucking delusional. and ignorant.

JewFace
02-08-2010, 07:07 PM
you are fucking delusional. and ignorant.

Would you care to elaborate?

C DUB YA
02-08-2010, 07:08 PM
Well, you know how I like my manhugs...

or beth Ditto hugs - about the same thing

crazzz2007
02-08-2010, 07:08 PM
not really.

bluemamba
02-08-2010, 07:10 PM
ummm....

......

... whos gracie jones?

JewFace
02-08-2010, 07:11 PM
not really.
Alright, well thanks for that illuminating contribution, then.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 07:11 PM
massive wind fans and lighting

JewFace
02-08-2010, 07:12 PM
Well, they were big. Just sayin.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 07:13 PM
Aren't all "fans" necessarily "wind fans"?

sbessiso
02-08-2010, 07:13 PM
jewface is definitely the gayest one here, right?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 07:14 PM
jewface is definitely the gayest one here, right?

From these posts and the grandeur with which he discusses Grace Jones's musical career, I'd HAVE to say yes.

JewFace
02-08-2010, 07:14 PM
Aren't all "fans" necessarily "wind fans"?
No. There are also Grace Jones fans, several of which have contributed to this thread.

GeezrRckr
02-08-2010, 07:15 PM
gossip would be a good plan b for the gay orgy, me thinks.

(and GJ was dumped because she is black and a gay icon...the rare double whammy. it's true because the company that owns GV hates them both....i read it on the interwebs)

Fourthisto
02-08-2010, 07:15 PM
So is Gary Numan and he'll be at coachella. Unless.....Don't say it! :mad:

JewFace
02-08-2010, 07:16 PM
jewface is definitely the gayest one here, right?

Hmmm. Time for my sig update?

brando4n82
02-08-2010, 07:20 PM
I think we deserve an explanation for this...

Norwalkguy
02-08-2010, 07:22 PM
my biggest excitement over grace jones was hearing (after the fact) how "mind blowing" her set was @ coachella and how many converts she has..

Whats "Ignorant and Delusional" are judgements made with out knowing what your talking about..

I took friends who werent neccessarily fans of Grace Jones to the Hollywood bowl and they were blown away. It really comes down to her stage show. Costume after Costume (I think she changed 8 times?) and her exceptional band.. Let me dumb it down for you, she had a amazing session band (including her son) and they really excellent..Sly and Robbie produced her most popular albums and the shit was funky..

So yeah haters are haters but what i thought would speak for itself would have been her performance itself, which is really what its all about. Right?

so jew face..at least we got to see her once!..failure to convert doesnt mean a failure trying..

Side note: I think the reason she bailed is because her set is really large and they probobly wanted to put her in the sahara or the outdoor , which from all accounts just wouldnt fit. Thats my guess.. No i might actually get to see LCD , Fever Ray, and PiL.. With Grace i would have missed one of those acts for sure..

WhyTheLongFace
02-08-2010, 07:24 PM
Why wouldnt she fit in the outdoor? That would be perfect IMO

ErikFlyingV
02-08-2010, 07:25 PM
I had not heard of her before, but after hearing some tracks, it seems like it would have been a fun act. Sorry to those of you who were looking forward to her.

EDIT: After listening to even more, I am bummed about this. It sounds like it would have been really fun in the hot desert.

Norwalkguy
02-08-2010, 07:26 PM
I was unaware Grace Jones performed music until about 2 months ago.

Just for everyones sake..Download her cover of "Nightclubbing" By Iggy Pop or
"Shes Lost control" By Joy Division....Please..

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 07:31 PM
Why wouldnt she fit in the outdoor? That would be perfect IMO

Too big to fit outdoors, even.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-08-2010, 07:32 PM
Too big to fit outdoors, even.

:lool

blackchango
02-08-2010, 07:54 PM
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Show at the bowl started like this

blackchango
02-08-2010, 07:59 PM
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No this !

JewFace
02-08-2010, 08:00 PM
Too big to fit outdoors, even.

Okay, that was pretty funny.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-08-2010, 08:13 PM
I've been pages of funny. Aeroplane has a Grace Jones remix.

Alchemy
02-09-2010, 12:07 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

involvelemons
02-09-2010, 08:34 AM
ANGRY SHOUTING LOUD NOISES

nationocean
02-09-2010, 09:14 AM
Hey i was the first person to start a grace jones thread. So maybe it goes

jewface
me
sbessio
sweaty man hugs in the sahara
two 'straight' dudes sharing a churro

nationocean
02-09-2010, 09:17 AM
also, i still haven't gotten over grace jones..

/sad face

PotVsKtl
02-09-2010, 09:31 AM
Couldn't you assholes just stay home and watch Project Runway?

Norwalkguy
02-09-2010, 09:40 AM
Couldn't you assholes just stay home and watch Project Runway?

had to come in here and make ****** jokes didnt you..Get a life..

PotVsKtl
02-09-2010, 09:47 AM
Are you calling Project Runway enthusiasts faggots?

RedThom
02-09-2010, 10:02 AM
Who the fuck cares.

everyone who liked the sample from "My Jamaican Guy". band wagon, it's easier than listening to a band.

kitt kat
02-09-2010, 10:02 AM
fixed

I love how all the people (Randy aside) who are saying "Big fucking deal" have 10-30 posts. This IS a big loss; Jones is one of the most influential dance/disco artists of all time. Hey ravers, you have her to thank for your shitty EDM "music."

Why don't you leave, go discover more about music before 1995, and then get back to me.

motionnn77
02-09-2010, 10:11 AM
She would have been an awesome show. But I would be quite happy to see Massive Attach take her place.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-09-2010, 10:11 AM
I love how all the people (Randy aside) who are saying "Big fucking deal" have 10-30 posts. This IS a big loss; Jones is one of the most influential dance/disco artists of all time. Hey ravers, you have her to thank for your shitty EDM "music."

Why don't you leave, go discover more about music before 1995, and then get back to me.

Was Grace Jones dropping the thing you knew that we didn't know?

luckyface
02-09-2010, 10:12 AM
I love how all the people (Randy aside) who are saying "Big fucking deal" have 10-30 posts. This IS a big loss; Jones is one of the most influential dance/disco artists of all time. Hey ravers, you have her to thank for your shitty EDM "music."

Why don't you leave, go discover more about music before 1995, and then get back to me.

I am thinking "Big fucking deal," but I didn't want to come in and rain any more on her fan's losses.

RedThom
02-09-2010, 10:13 AM
Massive Attach

are they a confirmed artest?

Monklish
02-09-2010, 10:14 AM
I love how all the people (Randy aside) who are saying "Big fucking deal" have 10-30 posts. This IS a big loss; Jones is one of the most influential dance/disco artists of all time. Hey ravers, you have her to thank for your shitty EDM "music."

Why don't you leave, go discover more about music before 1995, and then get back to me.

Like you fucking know who was influential in the disco era you vapid bitch. She wasn't even particularly known for her disco records--her actual famous/influential period came in the 80s. You know precisely dick about shit, shut the fuck up.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-09-2010, 10:18 AM
I'm more curious about the significance of 1995 as a cut-off year.

GeezrRckr
02-09-2010, 10:18 AM
you're wrong, randy....it's the subject of her next thesis.

Norwalkguy
02-09-2010, 10:21 AM
Like you fucking know who was influential in the disco era you vapid bitch. She wasn't even particularly known for her disco records--her actual famous/influential period came in the 80s. You know precisely dick about shit, shut the fuck up.

your actually wrong.. Her Disco stuff was the most influential. Her 12" records always included a Tom Moulton mix.."I need a man" "Thats the Trouble" "Fame"

and i HATE anyone who refrences there music by decades...To say there was not influential Disco music coming out of the early 80's means you just dont know what your talking about..

go post your no how in a tool/ratm thread and leave us homo's to the GJ details..

malcolmjamalawesome
02-09-2010, 10:23 AM
your actually wrong.. Her Disco stuff was the most influential. Her 12" records always included a Tom Moulton mix.."I need a man" "Thats the Trouble" "Fame"

and i HATE anyone who refrences there music by decades...To say there was not influential Disco music coming out of the early 80's means you just dont know what your talking about..

go post your no how in a tool/ratm thread and leave us homo's to the GJ details..

1) "You're" actually wrong
2) "their" music by decades
3) what "you're" talking about
4) go post your "know how"
5) leave us "homos"

Norwalkguy
02-09-2010, 10:24 AM
actually im going take back arguing over the "Most Influential" and just bitch about you catogorizing music by decades..and your 'tude...

Norwalkguy
02-09-2010, 10:25 AM
1) "You're" actually wrong
2) "their" music by decades
3) what "you're" talking about
4) go post your "know how"
5) leave us "homos"

what are you an english teacher?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-09-2010, 10:27 AM
what are you an english teacher?

Well, I have a grasp of the English language that is stronger than that of, say, a small child born with fetal alcohol syndrome. Can you say the same?

Monklish
02-09-2010, 10:28 AM
your actually wrong.. Her Disco stuff was the most influential. Her 12" records always included a Tom Moulton mix.."I need a man" "Thats the Trouble" "Fame"

and i HATE anyone who refrences there music by decades...To say there was not influential Disco music coming out of the early 80's means you just dont know what your talking about..

go post your no how in a tool/ratm thread and leave us homo's to the GJ details..

There was in fact no disco music coming out in the 80s, but particularly not by her. She made new wave in the 80s.

Norwalkguy
02-09-2010, 10:40 AM
not true.. Some of my favorites growing up were the Bobby O produced Hi-NRG Disco..The Flirts, Divine.. the San Francisco Producer Patrick Cowley ..all 80's stuff..

In terms of the Charts one of her biggest singles was Pull up to the Bumper..which still has coke-smears of disco.. Its just easier for straight people/and or Music Journalists to admit liking something they can fit into a pigeon hole other than disco..

Norwalkguy
02-09-2010, 10:42 AM
Well, I have a grasp of the English language that is stronger than that of, say, a small child born with fetal alcohol syndrome. Can you say the same?

oh Snap!..

malcolmjamalawesome
02-09-2010, 10:43 AM
You feel there is an onus on straight people to not admit to liking disco?

Monklish
02-09-2010, 10:49 AM
not true.. Some of my favorites growing up were the Bobby O produced Hi-NRG Disco..The Flirts, Divine.. the San Francisco Producer Patrick Cowley ..all 80's stuff..

In terms of the Charts one of her biggest singles was Pull up to the Bumper..which still has coke-smears of disco.. Its just easier for straight people/and or Music Journalists to admit liking something they can fit into a pigeon hole other than disco..

I happen to love disco. Personally I find it really telling that you're turning every single part of this argument into a "oh look at this straight guy bashing an obvious artistic genius just because he can't admit she's talented" bullshit. For you to say that is equally if not more lamebrained as me saying that only gay guys like her, because I actually have a point.

SHE'S A FUCKING KARAOKE MACHINE. All her hits were cover songs. She might be the best Vegas act in the world, but that's still basically what she is. Let's just chill out on sucking each others' dicks over how brilliant every statuesque bitch in a freaky outfit with a house beat behind them is.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-09-2010, 10:55 AM
Yeah. lawl indeed.

Mammoth85
02-09-2010, 11:11 AM
I'm fucking pissed. End of.

JewFace
02-09-2010, 03:44 PM
KK - I don't really foresee you being an effective advocate of Grace's career. I think her disco career is a bit silly, frankly. The only really great things that came out of that period were her stunning cover of La Vie En Rose and the really fun throwaway I Need A Man. Just an opinion, I know, but I think the majority of her disco work paled in comparison to the new wave/funk/reggae stuff she released in the very early 80s. Of course, disco was still influencing some of the music Grace released in the 80s but I think it's a stretch to call it disco.

Norwalkk Guy - I don't really see a need to turn this into a gay vs. straight thing. Randy - perhaps - touched upon a point that makes her less of a draw to some younger audience members and that's the fact that throughout much of her career she was an interpretive singer. Some of her most well known recordings are, well, covers. La Vie En Rose, Use Me, Nightclubbing, Love Is The Drug, Warm Leatherette. One can argue that she has a fair amount of original work like Slave to the Rhythm, Pull Up to the Bumper, her entire new album, etc. but for some people she is perhaps best known as a cover artist and even on her original work she has almost always collaborated with other composers and writers.

Today, most interpretive singers (or rather those who sing songs composed by other writers) are either pop starlets and temporary factory-made American Idol-esque singers, most of whom will be forgotten by the time their 2nd single drops or they are nauseatingly insipid new lounge singers like Michael Bouble whose entire careers seem to be tailor made for PBS pledge drives. But, let's not forget the history of interpretive singers. Would one suggest that Sinatra, Billy Holiday, Sarah Vaughan, Nina Simone were not great artists simply because the vast majority of their output were interpretations, or, covers?

I hate to bring that silly woman up again, but the argument can be made that Lady GaGa writes all (or most? I don't know) of her music so she must be more of an artist. But I'd argue that there is more artistry and taste displayed in Grace's selection of songs and songwriters and in her interpretations of those songs than there is in GaGa's songwriting career.

Anyway, I'm still really bummed over this news.

alleysin
02-09-2010, 03:58 PM
whose entire careers seem to be tailor made for PBS pledge drives.

Yesss! haha

SoulDischarge
02-09-2010, 04:47 PM
Also, Grace Jones brought some pretty fringe elements to the dance world with her choice of covers. While The Normal might have gotten their due for "Warm Leatherette" by now, that shit was still pretty much alien music in the 80s I'm sure. And as JewFace pointed out, her appeal is as a performer not a songwriter.

I'm still extremely bummed out. Hopefully she makes this up by touring the US soon.

lickety_spit
02-09-2010, 05:10 PM
i was just excited to see Strangé from the movie Boomerang.

blackchango
02-09-2010, 05:32 PM
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1981 hmmm.... disco ? new wave ? funk? reggae ? All I know is that this Levan version kicks ass ! Gays and the straightened ones would bone to this one on the dance floor back in the day.

Botrocker
02-09-2010, 05:56 PM
Wow this is still going on.

It's like rubbing salt in the wound now.

PotVsKtl
02-09-2010, 06:01 PM
Who?

SoulDischarge
02-09-2010, 06:01 PM
We get it.

GuyInTucson
02-09-2010, 06:17 PM
This thread has already lasted too long.

BlackSwan
02-10-2010, 08:20 AM
Aww, this is some shitty shit.

BlackSwan
02-10-2010, 08:52 AM
I hate to bring that silly woman up again, but the argument can be made that Lady GaGa writes all (or most? I don't know) of her music so she must be more of an artist.

Except that she doesn't.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 08:58 AM
Except that she doesn't.

Source? I'm pretty sure she does.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:07 AM
UPDATE: I Mystery Googled "Grace Jones Is A Legend" and got results for "Bacon".

BlackSwan
02-10-2010, 09:07 AM
Source?

The writing credits on both of her albums, especially Fame Monster.

chairmenmeow47
02-10-2010, 09:09 AM
Hey ravers, you have her to thank for your shitty EDM "music."

Why don't you leave, go discover more about music before 1995, and then get back to me.

take your own advice dipshit. singing over electronic music does not make you a pioneer of the EDM scene.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:09 AM
She was writing credits on all 13 songs on "The Fame' and she writes songs for other people.

boarderwoozel3
02-10-2010, 09:11 AM
I wouldn't want to take credit for most of that nonsense if i was her.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:12 AM
I wouldn't want to take credit for most of that nonsense if i was her.

Agreed, but irrelevant here.

GeezrRckr
02-10-2010, 09:13 AM
Source? I'm pretty sure she does.

yes, she does. doesn't take away from the fact that she blows.

(wiki any of her albums to see writing credits)

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:14 AM
Nobody's saying she doesn't blow. I'm all man, baby.

boarderwoozel3
02-10-2010, 09:15 AM
Agreed, but irrelevant here.

True.

I wonder if gaga listened to rave music before 1995?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:16 AM
True.

I wonder if gaga listened to rave music before 1995?

1995: A Space Odyssey

GeezrRckr
02-10-2010, 09:17 AM
Nobody's saying she doesn't blow. I'm all man, baby.

oh, i wasn't inferring that you may have liked her. that was my own editorializing just to make sure i was clear on where i stand with the bitch.

CellarOwl
02-10-2010, 09:17 AM
Aw. Goddamnit.

chairmenmeow47
02-10-2010, 09:18 AM
True.

I wonder if gaga listened to rave music before 1995?

only if the music was sung by chicks in costumes who go out of their way to prove they aren't "typical".

BlackSwan
02-10-2010, 09:18 AM
She was writing credits on all 13 songs on "The Fame' and she writes songs for other people.

He said, "music." All of the songs on both albums give credit to multiple writers except "Speechless".

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:19 AM
He said, "music." All of the songs on both albums give credit to multiple writers except "Speechless".

So you're assuming that means she has no hand in writing non-lyric parts because that best suits your argument?

BlackSwan
02-10-2010, 09:23 AM
So you're assuming that means she has no hand in writing non-lyric parts because that best suits your argument?

No, that is not what I said. He said she writes all of her own music, I disagreed.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:26 AM
LOL. So really, instead of making your point based around him saying "music", you're making your point based around him saying "all" of her own music, meaning that, if anyone contributes anything whatsoever to the writing of a song, even if an artist is involved with the writing of his or her entire library, it becomes a misnomer to say that artist wrote "all" of their music.

Well, that's just plain buttfuckery.

chairmenmeow47
02-10-2010, 09:27 AM
it's what this thread is about, mja :p

GeezrRckr
02-10-2010, 09:28 AM
it's what this thread is about, mja :p

zing

BlackSwan
02-10-2010, 09:31 AM
LOL. So really, instead of making your point based around him saying "music", you're making your point based around him saying "all" of her own music, meaning that, if anyone contributes anything whatsoever to the writing of a song, even if an artist is involved with the writing of his or her entire library, it becomes a misnomer to say that artist wrote "all" of their music.

Well, that's just plain buttfuckery.

It's seems very convenient for you to make stupid assumptions about what I am saying and then argue against them. I'm saying that she has co-writers for the music on all of the songs on both of her albums except one. The marketing around Lady Gaga is that is she is her own vision--that she is new and original singer/songwriter that writes all of her own songs. With a product like her that is obviously a load of shit, but you seem to buy it, and will argue for it even though you claim not to like her. That is the true buttfuckery you speak of.

BrickTop24
02-10-2010, 09:34 AM
it sucks she's off the lineup but i'll live.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:36 AM
Today, most interpretive singers (or rather those who sing songs composed by other writers) are either pop starlets and temporary factory-made American Idol-esque singers, most of whom will be forgotten by the time their 2nd single drops or they are nauseatingly insipid new lounge singers like Michael Bouble whose entire careers seem to be tailor made for PBS pledge drives. But, let's not forget the history of interpretive singers. Would one suggest that Sinatra, Billy Holiday, Sarah Vaughan, Nina Simone were not great artists simply because the vast majority of their output were interpretations, or, covers?

I hate to bring that silly woman up again, but the argument can be made that Lady GaGa writes all (or most? I don't know) of her music so she must be more of an artist. But I'd argue that there is more artistry and taste displayed in Grace's selection of songs and songwriters and in her interpretations of those songs than there is in GaGa's songwriting career.



Except that she doesn't.

Tell me what I missed exactly. Seems JewFace was making the point that Gaga has a hand in the songwriting process whereas Grace Jones did not. Assuming Grace Jones did not, JewFace's point is correct.

boarderwoozel3
02-10-2010, 09:51 AM
Kraftwerk owe Grace Jones a 'thank you' letter for her pre 1995 raver music.

GeezrRckr
02-10-2010, 09:51 AM
what form of law do you want to practice, mja?

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:53 AM
what form of law do you want to practice, mja?

Message Board Semantic-based law.

chairmenmeow47
02-10-2010, 09:54 AM
Kraftwerk owe Grace Jones a 'thank you' letter for her pre 1995 raver music.

seriously. kat, please enlighten us all on the evolution of electronic music prior to 1995. this is in no way a trap.

malcolmjamalawesome
02-10-2010, 09:55 AM
Can we got some 1995-based photoshops? I'm thinking 2001 and Orwell's 1984 would make for good ones