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Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 09:58 PM
It just makes too much sense. The three bands no doubt a vast majority of us here want to see. Why even make them conflict? Why not just have quite possibly the best back-to-back-to-back in Coachella history?

Kraftwerk/Portishead/Prince was good and all. It was legendary. This will be way better.

WhyTheLongFace
01-21-2010, 09:59 PM
As a Portishead/Kraftwerk fan and a really big Prince fan that's like 2.3x better than Kraftwek/Portsihead/Prince

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 10:01 PM
My thoughts exactly.

heart cooks brain
01-21-2010, 10:01 PM
support

TonyWonder
01-21-2010, 10:02 PM
This would be ideal.

sbessiso
01-21-2010, 10:05 PM
mmm I love not having to move to another stage. But I really dont see Orbital on the main. Gorillaz are gunna have their "intense virtual reality multi-media experience". wont that take a while to take down and put up whatever orbital has?

WhyTheLongFace
01-21-2010, 10:06 PM
But I dont know about Orbital on the main stage. I'm down to run to the Sahara after Gorillaz tho

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 10:08 PM
Look, if Tiesto is going to play the main again on Saturday. Orbital sure as hell can do it.

Bendulum
01-21-2010, 10:09 PM
But I dont know about Orbital on the main stage. I'm down to run to the Sahara after Gorillaz tho

Do you think it'll be like 2008: Roger Waters closed the main stage, followed by Justice in the Sahara?

sbessiso
01-21-2010, 10:10 PM
But Tiesto is like DISGUSTING popular

WhyTheLongFace
01-21-2010, 10:11 PM
Do you think it'll be like 2008: Roger Waters closed the main stage, followed by Justice in the Sahara?

I dont know. I hope for that. But everyone says that and you just dont know what's gonna happen. I don't even know if that happens often. I just dont think Gorillaz and Orbital will conflict and I dont see anyone else taking the headliner spot in the Sahara

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 10:12 PM
But Tiesto is like DISGUSTING popular

Well the alternative is they have nothing on the main stage after Gorillaz and everyone who wants to see Orbital has to run to the Sahara. And the people who don't go and find something else to do like they would anyways.

WhyTheLongFace
01-21-2010, 10:13 PM
Look, if Tiesto is going to play the main again on Saturday. Orbital sure as hell can do it.

You're talking about a DJ who performed at the Olympics. The God Damn Olympics. Like him or dislike him, he has a strong following.

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 10:13 PM
I dont know. I hope for that. But everyone says that and you just dont know what's gonna happen. I don't even know if that happens often. I just dont think Gorillaz and Orbital will conflict and I dont see anyone else taking the headliner spot in the Sahara

Headliner doesn't always mean "last to play". Infected Mushroom certainly wasn't the headliner in 07.

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 10:13 PM
You're talking about a DJ who performed at the Olympics. The God Damn Olympics. Like him or dislike him, he has a strong following.

Well the alternative is they have nothing on the main stage after Gorillaz and everyone who wants to see Orbital has to run to the Sahara. And the people who don't go and find something else to do like they would anyways.

digitaldragon03
01-21-2010, 10:14 PM
As long as that doesnt deprive me of Plastikman, ill be happy. But since he does have some new audio/video setup, it will obviously be at night and will conflict with those set times.

Id rather have:
Thom Yorke at sunset on the main stage.
Plastikman live in the sahara at night.
Gorillaz at the main stage ending early.
Orbital closing out the show, Sahara or not.

What that is basically saying is that Plastikman MUST conflict with Pavement...

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 10:16 PM
As long as that doesnt deprive me of Plastikman, ill be happy.

This will probably be the downside. :(

Bendulum
01-21-2010, 10:16 PM
Headliner doesn't always mean "last to play". Infected Mushroom certainly wasn't the headliner in 07.

I was about to mention this. Now if it could happen a second time . . . possibly.

Daft Punk played right after Depeche Mode closed the main in '06.
So, based on our discussion thus far, it would seem likely that Orbital will close the Sahara on Sunday after Gorillaz.

WhyTheLongFace
01-21-2010, 10:17 PM
Headliner doesn't always mean "last to play". Infected Mushroom certainly wasn't the headliner in 07.

True. I think it's more likely Orbital plays to a silent Main rather then being on the Main stage but that's just one man's opinion. As long as I can see both and they dont make Sly close the outdoor ( :mad: make him sunset dammit!) then I will be pleased.

quicksand
01-21-2010, 10:17 PM
I support this notion.

Brochella
01-21-2010, 10:18 PM
no way. orbital belongs in the sahara, they're a match made in heaven

thom cobain
01-21-2010, 10:22 PM
i wish. since this will not happen, am i going to miss orbital?

can't miss gorillaz for sure, but i want orbital bad.

Brochella
01-21-2010, 10:23 PM
i'm actually a little bit offended that some of you don't want to see one of the seminal electronica bands within the magical confines of what many people perceive as the mecca for dance music in america

PassiveTheory
01-21-2010, 10:24 PM
Reason 1: Pavement.

Reason 2: Tiesto

Sorry, Ryan. =/

digitaldragon03
01-21-2010, 10:26 PM
i'm actually a little bit offended that some of you don't want to see one of the seminal electronica bands within the magical confines of what many people perceive as the mecca for dance music in america

I agree, the Sahara has alot more energy than any of the other stages. The only reason for any EDM artist to not be in there is because they have some sort of huge set up that doesnt fit in the tent.

boarderwoozel3
01-21-2010, 10:29 PM
skjrcmnncfoeihberferc no no no

This is a do not want x infinity. Orbital are perfect for the tent, perfect. The main stage vibe would be horrible. Literally thousands would constantly be shuffling out and then there'd be more that stayed to watch but weren't dancing ot getting too into it. No, we must gather the diehards in the tent and collectively lose our shit.

From a conflict perspective I get the thought. But this is an awful idea. Fortunately, it's not going to be an issue, because they're going in the tent.

djandrews25
01-21-2010, 10:38 PM
Can we please throw plastikman on right before?

*edit* the best dj of the weekend needs to be seen too.

betao
01-21-2010, 10:39 PM
i'm actually a little bit offended that some of you don't want to see one of the seminal electronica bands within the magical confines of what many people perceive as the mecca for dance music in america

Agreed so much.

Orbital on the mainstage would not have the same atmosphere as Orbital in the Sahara.

I don't give a fuck if I have to sprint from Gorillaz to the tent to make it on time - it'll be worth it.

FoxeyLady
01-21-2010, 10:39 PM
Like this please:

Main
Gorillaz 10:20-End
Pavement 8:40-9:40
Thom Yorke 7:15-8:15

Sahara:
Club 75 10:30-End
Orbital 8:45-10:15
Infected Mushroom 7:20-8:25

Edit: Plastikman would have to play at night though right?

betao
01-21-2010, 10:40 PM
skjrcmnncfoeihberferc no no no

This is a do not want x infinity. Orbital are perfect for the tent, perfect. The main stage vibe would be horrible. Literally thousands would constantly be shuffling out and then there'd be more that stayed to watch but weren't dancing ot getting too into it. No, we must gather the diehards in the tent and collectively lose our shit.

From a conflict perspective I get the thought. But this is an awful idea. Fortunately, it's not going to be an issue, because they're going in the tent.

again, Agreed.

paulthomasanderson
01-21-2010, 10:40 PM
No, we must gather the diehards in the tent and collectively lose our shit.


True, diehard fans. That's us. The Sahara is where the Hartnoll brothers belong.

betao
01-21-2010, 10:42 PM
Like this please:

Main
Gorillaz 10:20-End
Pavement 8:40-9:40
Thom Yorke 7:15-8:15

Sahara:
Club 75 10:30-End
Orbital 8:45-10:15
Infected Mushroom 7:20-8:25

Edit: Plastikman would have to play at night though right?

I'll actually agree with this, even though I don't want Club 75 closing.

and no, Plastikamn doesn't have to play at night (though it'd be nice). He could do what Danny T did in 08, and play from 530 to 715ish. A nice sunset gig.

digitaldragon03
01-21-2010, 10:48 PM
Plastikman has a new audio/visual thing happening though. So night time is a must.

boarderwoozel3
01-21-2010, 10:51 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

boarderwoozel3
01-21-2010, 10:52 PM
Haha, great minds, more or less. ^^^


Like this please:

Main
Gorillaz 10:20-End
Pavement 8:40-9:40
Thom Yorke 7:15-8:15

Sahara:
Club 75 10:30-End
Orbital 8:45-10:15
Infected Mushroom 7:20-8:25

Edit: Plastikman would have to play at night though right?

betao
01-21-2010, 10:57 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

I'll vote for you as king.

Brochella
01-21-2010, 11:02 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

i can dig it, personally would've switched club 75 and infected, but that's just because i want to catch some of club 75's set without having to miss any more gorillaz than i have to. really though, i'm fine as long as plastikman goes into orbital. can you guys imagine the vibe in that tent during those 3 or so hours? we'll be having some blissful moments that night :)

nbvcide
01-21-2010, 11:06 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

Like this please:

Main
Gorillaz 10:20-End
Pavement 8:40-9:40
Thom Yorke 7:15-8:15

Sahara:
Club 75 10:30-End
Orbital 8:45-10:15
Infected Mushroom 7:20-8:25

Edit: Plastikman would have to play at night though right?

change IM to Plastikman, and i think you got it right.. the times may be off, but that's the order that makes sense..

i think Infected in the pre-sunset slot would be fine, and Plastikman going into Orbital makes more sense than any other 1-2 on the lineup (other than Thom Yorke->Pavement, possibly)

there is also the possibility of Orbital closing out the Sahara AFTER the main closes, ala Justice..

but with the new position of Club75 on the poster, i'd be willing to bet they're closing, or at least playing during Gorillaz, it makes PERFECT sense..

Aurgasm
01-21-2010, 11:14 PM
Can we please throw plastikman on right before?

*edit* the best dj of the weekend needs to be seen too.

its more than a dj set. he's doing his own visuals live too

Aurgasm
01-21-2010, 11:15 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

This is perfect.

boarderwoozel3
01-21-2010, 11:16 PM
i can dig it, personally would've switched club 75 and infected, but that's just because i want to catch some of club 75's set without having to miss any more gorillaz than i have to. really though, i'm fine as long as plastikman goes into orbital. can you guys imagine the vibe in that tent during those 3 or so hours? we'll be having some blissful moments that night :)

IM and Club 75 were interchangeable to me. I went with 75 to close because they're just DJing and would be easier to get going quickly.

thom cobain
01-21-2010, 11:17 PM
just want to see all three. please let me.

FoxeyLady
01-21-2010, 11:18 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

the only complaint I have with this is the half hour overlap of gorillaz and orbital :(

boarderwoozel3
01-21-2010, 11:23 PM
You and me both. But seeing as they're both going to require at least 90 minutes (likely more for Gorillaz), I think it's inevitable as there's too much talent on the mainstage to end it early. And even if Orbital closed the tent, there's absolutely no way the main could close before 11. Both stages are going until the end which means I'm missing a good chunk of Gorillaz one way or another. Sucks mais, c'est la vie.

hendrixfan143
01-21-2010, 11:28 PM
As long as that doesnt deprive me of Plastikman, ill be happy. But since he does have some new audio/video setup, it will obviously be at night and will conflict with those set times.

Id rather have:
Thom Yorke at sunset on the main stage.
Plastikman live in the sahara at night.
Gorillaz at the main stage ending early.
Orbital closing out the show, Sahara or not.

What that is basically saying is that Plastikman MUST conflict with Pavement...

fuck that he is the only sahara act i really want to see, but I'm not missing pavement

FoxeyLady
01-21-2010, 11:33 PM
I have a feeling they won't let them conflict, I mean this is gonna be the most asked for avoided conflict for sure on the boards (to which they have paid attention to the past couple years). Orbital 9:00-10:30 - Gorillaz 10:30-End?

boarderwoozel3
01-21-2010, 11:48 PM
I thought of that as well but then there's an awkwardly long Sahara set ~10:40 - close. That's a big festival number for Plastikman/IM/Club75... An overlap of some kind seems inevitable.

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 11:49 PM
Like this please:

Main
Gorillaz 10:20-End
Pavement 8:40-9:40
Thom Yorke 7:15-8:15

Sahara:
Club 75 10:30-End
Orbital 8:45-10:15
Infected Mushroom 7:20-8:25
Plastikman 6:10-7:10
Glitch Mob 5:00-6:00

Edit: Plastikman would have to play at night though right?

fixed

Brochella
01-21-2010, 11:51 PM
fuck that he is the only sahara act i really want to see, but I'm not missing pavement

if i had to choose between missing thom yorke and pavement, id definitely miss pavement, but plastikman was during thom yorke, then orbital would be during pavement and that would be even worse

signmeup
01-21-2010, 11:57 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

this is exactly what i was thinking,
but if club 75 do indeed close the fest, theres now way there playing for 45 minutes. busy p and mehdi had a two hour set in 07
i dont see them playing for less than two hours with a supergroup like that

boarderwoozel3
01-21-2010, 11:58 PM
So basically we're all going to get screwed. It just varies to what degree. It's an embarrassment of riches.

Wheres the beef?
01-21-2010, 11:59 PM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

I like this.

signmeup
01-22-2010, 12:00 AM
thats sure is how it feels, im very interested to see how gv will handle this

Wheres the beef?
01-22-2010, 12:01 AM
Jeff, I think you know how I feel about the brothers playing the tent. It HAS to happen. But, I think there also could be awesome potential for a mainstage slot for Oribital. Something we didn't think about. Maybe. I don't know.

Just having a repeat of Roger Waters -> Justice in 08 is hardly ideal. But I like your thinking with having Orbital play before Gorillaz. I hadn't thought of that.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
01-22-2010, 12:10 AM
guys, come on, they won't bump Pavement to the outdoor.

boarderwoozel3
01-22-2010, 12:32 AM
Jeff, I think you know how I feel about the brothers playing the tent. It HAS to happen. But, I think there also could be awesome potential for a mainstage slot for Oribital. Something we didn't think about. Maybe. I don't know.

Just having a repeat of Roger Waters -> Justice in 08 is hardly ideal. But I like your thinking with having Orbital play before Gorillaz. I hadn't thought of that.

Ok, my emotions aside the timing would be a disaster for everyone involved. Laying this year's acts on Sat 07's set times looks like this (on the main):

Orbital 11-close
Gorillaz 9:15-10:30
Pavement 7:30-8:40
Thom Yorke 6:15-7:05

Both Gorillaz and Orbital command 90 minutes. So what are you going to do? Have Thom Yorke play what's essentially the Black Keys slot, an already shortened set at 5:30 in the late afternoon sun? Not a chance. And that's not even considering crowd balancing within the grounds and mixing a rock/niche techno crowd. Everyone loses by being forced out of their element. Leave the EDM on the main to douches who can't fit their ego in the tent.

boarderwoozel3
01-22-2010, 12:36 AM
Ugg. I just want to know our fate.

Brochella
01-22-2010, 12:36 AM
Jeff, I think you know how I feel about the brothers playing the tent. It HAS to happen. But, I think there also could be awesome potential for a mainstage slot for Oribital. Something we didn't think about. Maybe. I don't know.

Just having a repeat of Roger Waters -> Justice in 08 is hardly ideal. But I like your thinking with having Orbital play before Gorillaz. I hadn't thought of that.

There is literally no way you can you can rationalize Orbital not playing the Sahara

Boourns
01-22-2010, 12:39 AM
Ok, my emotions aside the timing would be a disaster for everyone involved. Laying this year's acts on Sat 07's set times looks like this (on the main):

Orbital 11-close
Gorillaz 9:15-10:30
Pavement 7:30-8:40
Thom Yorke 6:15-7:05

Both Gorillaz and Orbital command 90 minutes. So what are you going to do? Have Thom Yorke play what's essentially the Black Keys slot, an already shortened set at 5:30 in the late afternoon sun? Not a chance. And that's not even considering crowd balancing within the grounds and mixing a rock/niche techno crowd. Everyone loses by being forced out of their element. Leave the EDM on the main to douches who can't fit their ego in the tent.

Main:
Thom Yorke 7-8
Pavement 8:30-9:30
Gorillaz 10:40-end

Outdoor:
Sly & the Family Stone 9:30-10:30

Sahara:
Orbital 8:30-10:00
Plastikman 10ish-end

FoxeyLady
01-22-2010, 12:41 AM
Main:
Thom Yorke 7-8
Pavement 8:30-9:30
Gorillaz 10:40-end

Outdoor:
Sly & the Family Stone 9:30-10:30

Sahara:
Orbital 8:30-10:00
Plastikman 10ish-end

:thu

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
01-22-2010, 12:43 AM
Main:
Thom Yorke 7-8
Pavement 8:30-9:30
Gorillaz 10:40-end

Outdoor:
Sly & the Family Stone 9:30-10:30

Sahara:
Orbital 8:30-10:00
Plastikman 10ish-end

I just don't see it going like this.

thedevious
01-22-2010, 12:44 AM
If I was king, this is how I would run things, realistically:

Infected Mushroom 7-8
Plastikman 8:10 - 9:10
9:30-11 Orbital
Club 75 11:15 - Close

Yorke 7:20 - 8:20
Pavement 8:45 - 9:55
Gorillaz 10:30 - Close

You have sussed it out man, I can completely avoid Pavement! I'm hoping that Club 75 continues for a good hour after Gorillaz are completely done though.

weeklymix
01-22-2010, 12:45 AM
I support this if you support Devo -> FNM -> Muse main stage Saturday.

boarderwoozel3
01-22-2010, 12:47 AM
All I need is a FNM > Muse at some point so sure, I'm game.

*These are insane combinations we're tossing around, btw. Can't wait for this.

sleepybrew
01-22-2010, 12:48 AM
just as long as those 3 artists don't conflict, i'll be happy

moomoo
01-22-2010, 12:50 AM
the moral of this thread is that Sunday is brutally stacked with ridiculous talent.

Wheres the beef?
01-22-2010, 12:51 AM
Ok, my emotions aside the timing would be a disaster for everyone involved. Laying this year's acts on Sat 07's set times looks like this (on the main):

Orbital 11-close
Gorillaz 9:15-10:30
Pavement 7:30-8:40
Thom Yorke 6:15-7:05

Both Gorillaz and Orbital command 90 minutes. So what are you going to do? Have Thom Yorke play what's essentially the Black Keys slot, an already shortened set at 5:30 in the late afternoon sun? Not a chance. And that's not even considering crowd balancing within the grounds and mixing a rock/niche techno crowd. Everyone loses by being forced out of their element. Leave the EDM on the main to douches who can't fit their ego in the tent.



Saturday 08 timeslots (slightly modified):

Thom Yorke 7:30-8:30
Orbital 8:45-10:00
Gorillaz 10:20-close

And then Sunday 08

Roger Waters 8:30-11:00
Justice 11:00-close (which was a ridiculously packed tent that most people who came after Waters couldn't get in). I left Waters early and still couldn't get much further than a few feet inside the tent.

The whole point of this was I was thinking about how we avoid the Gorillaz/Orbital conflict with Orbital closing out the festival. I hadn't thought of them going on before Gorillaz and now that I see it as a possibility I would rather see all of Orbital and miss the beginning of Gorillaz than miss the end of Gorillaz and see all of Orbital.
Also it's only been 2.5 days and we are already going on about this. I wish I hadn't started this thread. lol

)|( Senjikyru )|(
01-22-2010, 12:53 AM
the moral of this thread is that Sunday is brutally stacked with ridiculous talent.

Truth.

Boourns
01-22-2010, 12:57 AM
I just don't see it going like this.

Then how?

This would allow the Orbital crazies on this board a full set, without conflicting with Gorillaz or Thom, people can still see over half of Pavement and half of Orbital, Thom would be playing at an appropriate later hour, meaning less likelihood of conflicting with the other epic gets like Jonsi and Charlotte, and Sly and the Family Stone deserve a timeslot that allows people to pay their respects and I can't imagine them playing at 5 on the main stage.

It all depends on how long it takes to setup the "multimedia extravaganza" of Gorillaz, really. If it does take longer than usual, then the main stage is not going to also shut down after their set for another hour. If it doesn't take longer to set up, then who knows.

boarderwoozel3
01-22-2010, 01:03 AM
the moral of this thread is that Sunday is brutally stacked with ridiculous talent.

Indeed.

Boourns
01-22-2010, 01:10 AM
the moral of this thread is that Sunday is brutally stacked with ridiculous talent.

Fact. Best single day of Coachella yet? Probably. It's better than entire three-day lineups of a lot of great festivals.

kuuguy
01-22-2010, 01:20 AM
As long as that doesnt deprive me of Plastikman, ill be happy. But since he does have some new audio/video setup, it will obviously be at night and will conflict with those set times.

Id rather have:
Thom Yorke at sunset on the main stage.
Plastikman live in the sahara at night.
Gorillaz at the main stage ending early.
Orbital closing out the show, Sahara or not.

What that is basically saying is that Plastikman MUST conflict with Pavement...

This sounds absolutely PERFECT!

kuuguy
01-22-2010, 01:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxeyLady
Like this please:

Main
Gorillaz 10:20-End
Pavement 8:40-9:40
Thom Yorke 7:15-8:15

Sahara:
Club 75 10:30-End
Orbital 8:45-10:15
Infected Mushroom 7:20-8:25
Plastikman 6:10-7:10
Glitch Mob 5:00-6:00

Edit: Plastikman would have to play at night though right?

This certainly works well in terms of minimizing the conflicting damage of Sahara vs. Main.