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Mr.Nipples
11-06-2009, 05:54 PM
If you attend one of these 50 universities in question, i implore you to take as many copies that you can hold in your arms and dispose of them.


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oh yeah, Growing Pains sucked total fucking ass by the way...

Gribbz
11-06-2009, 06:03 PM
I read an article about this. Fucking douche bag.

Edit: I just noticed he was sitting in a chair that was turned around. I can relate to that.

SoulDischarge
11-06-2009, 07:17 PM
I'll be passing out Bibles with a 50 page introduction illustrating the most effective positions from the gay Kama Sutra. It will also point out Adolph Hitler's undeniable heterosexuality.

Aurgasm
11-06-2009, 07:19 PM
I'll be passing out Bibles with a 50 page introduction illustrating the most effective positions from the gay Kama Sutra. It will also point out Adolph Hitler's undeniable heterosexuality.

what do you know about gay sex?

you dont know shit

SoulDischarge
11-06-2009, 07:23 PM
I'm sure you could school me something fierce, but that's neither here nor there.

Aurgasm
11-06-2009, 07:26 PM
I'm sure you could school me something fierce, but that's neither here nor there.

lol dont forget it

So i couldnt sit through that video..what universities are they going to?

JustSteve
11-06-2009, 07:33 PM
i always thought mike seaver was a douche. confirmed.

stinkbutt
11-06-2009, 07:55 PM
"life or death situation"

So they printed a 50 page forward to try and disprove and discredit the rest of the book? That seems like a whole lot of effort for something so ridiculous. I'm also really curious about these "undeniable connections to Adolf Hitler" considering Hitler was born 40 years after Darwin wrote it.

Alchemy
11-06-2009, 07:57 PM
Who the hell sells Origin of Species for $29.99!? I got my copy of Origin of Species for $4.99. It's a Barns and Noble classic.

SoulDischarge
11-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Who the hell sells Origin of Species for $29.99!?

Most college bookstores.

Alchemy
11-06-2009, 08:03 PM
I imagine it's a special version. Like a collection of Darwin's works or Origin of Species with a number of essays on it.

kitt kat
11-06-2009, 08:37 PM
OMG CAMPUS CRUSADE FOR CHRIST! CRU KIDZ IN FULL FORCE AT USC!

I'm sure they'll be out. They always are. So we're #26. Does that mean the Jesus freaks will be here telling me gays are sinful and we were never related to apes?

AWESOME. I love fucking with the super religious.

mountmccabe
11-06-2009, 08:56 PM
Possibly the most hilarious thing about this is that The Origin of Species is interesting as an historical document but, well, it's riddled with errors and nonsense. It's cool to see how natural selection was first presented in such a format but that belongs in a history of science class, nothing more.

Rubes figure that because they hold an old book riddled with errors and nonsense on a pedestal and use it to inform their daily life that everybody else has gotta be just as ridiculous.

Wheres the beef?
11-06-2009, 09:09 PM
Possibly the most hilarious thing about this is that The Origin of Species is interesting as an historical document but, well, it's riddled with errors and nonsense. It's cool to see how natural selection was first presented in such a format but that belongs in a history of science class, nothing more.

Rubes figure that because they hold an old book riddled with errors and nonsense on a pedestal and use it to inform their daily life that everybody else has gotta be just as ridiculous.

This.

SoulDischarge
11-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Personally, I think implying that believing in evolution is similar to being a Nazi and a racist is the most hilarious part.

Boourns
11-06-2009, 09:20 PM
Find some Rule 34 for Jesus (definitely of the gay variety), print, and distribute.

Alchemy
11-06-2009, 09:37 PM
Possibly the most hilarious thing about this is that The Origin of Species is interesting as an historical document but, well, it's riddled with errors and nonsense. It's cool to see how natural selection was first presented in such a format but that belongs in a history of science class, nothing more.

Rubes figure that because they hold an old book riddled with errors and nonsense on a pedestal and use it to inform their daily life that everybody else has gotta be just as ridiculous.

Yeah, when I went over Darwin's writing for school, it was in a class about how anthropology has changed over time... or I guess you can say, how anthropology has evolved. Tons of scientific work (especially social sciences) have errors and nonsense. Some people actually did write racist-ish things that the Nazis would have loved. But if we keep them in the canon, it's usually because they started something that would be cleaned up later, with better understanding and stronger evidence. Like natural selection.

eskamo951
11-07-2009, 01:07 AM
So...I went to their website to try and find the list of schools, luckily my computer hasn't burst into flame, but also, why do they not mention which schools? I've been waiting for the religious extremists ever since I transferred here...none yet...

boarderwoozel3
11-07-2009, 01:28 AM
One of the funniest things I've seen on campus this quarter was a right wing nut with a 'repent or burn' sign ranting at a dozen transfixed asian international students.

JebusLives
11-07-2009, 06:32 AM
Possibly the most hilarious thing about this is that The Origin of Species is interesting as an historical document but, well, it's riddled with errors and nonsense. It's cool to see how natural selection was first presented in such a format but that belongs in a history of science class, nothing more.

Rubes figure that because they hold an old book riddled with errors and nonsense on a pedestal and use it to inform their daily life that everybody else has gotta be just as ridiculous.

What the hell? The Origin of Species is as surprisingly well-written, succinct description of natural selection. EVERYONE should read it. Consider that it was written before genetics, before the discovery of DNA, and still manages to be more or less correct. It completely deserves its pedestal. All scientific works contain errors, but what "nonsense" do you speak of? Use examples.

p.s. I had to stop watching the video. These Jesus freaks make me so goddamn angry.

theburiedlife
11-07-2009, 07:35 AM
If you attend one of these 50 universities in question, i implore you to take as many copies that you can hold in your arms and dispose of them.


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oh yeah, Growing Pains sucked total fucking ass by the way...

Oh fucking hell, why did they mention my campus specifically. Cal students fought very hard in the 60's so that the socially conservative Chancellor Clark Kerr couldn't muffle the expression of free speech on school property. Regrettably, that turned out to be a double edged sword. I have to walk through these religious zealots at Sproul everyday, who try and pick fights with students in passing about personal faith and the peripheral issues of abortion, sexual orientation and contraceptives.

I guess I'll throw away as many as I can. James Cameron needs to have a lobotomy.

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Maybe he should get an actual degree from a credited university before he spreads his ill-informed witch hunt against the straw man Darwin who Christian s claimed embraced religion at the end of his life (which he did not).

Alternate
11-07-2009, 07:46 AM
im not sure what this is, but i support destruction.

cheers.

gaypalmsprings
11-07-2009, 07:50 AM
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JebusLives
11-07-2009, 08:08 AM
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lol at one of the comments... "and the coconut? Clearly the work of Satan!"

sarahpalin
11-07-2009, 08:34 AM
Kirk Cameron is on the short list for my 2012 running mates. Also, Stephen Baldwin.

greghead
11-07-2009, 10:09 AM
Yeah, when I went over Darwin's writing for school, it was in a class about how anthropology has changed over time... or I guess you can say, how anthropology has evolved. Tons of scientific work (especially social sciences) have errors and nonsense. Some people actually did write racist-ish things that the Nazis would have loved. But if we keep them in the canon, it's usually because they started something that would be cleaned up later, with better understanding and stronger evidence. Like natural selection.

It's funny that a theory of unprecedented equality (that all human beings share a common ancestor) was utilized by white social darwinists and racialist thinkers to somehow "confirm" existing social/racial/gender stratifications and simultaneously create new ones.

superfiction
11-07-2009, 10:22 AM
EYE SEE THE LIIIGHT. PRRRRRAISE JESUS

mountmccabe
11-07-2009, 10:46 AM
Personally, I think implying that believing in evolution is similar to being a Nazi and a racist is the most hilarious part.

Ehh... I guess I just consider that old news. And/or a side issue here.

Their focus is specifically targeting On The Origin of Species as if it were the holy book of evolution... so that gets the focus of my ridicule.


But don't get me wrong; the idea that natural selection and/or evolution necessarily lead to Nazism or racism is absurd as well.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 10:48 AM
I like the comprehensiveness of a study looking solely at Psychology and Biology professors.

EDIT: I misused quotation marks.

liquidsnake28
11-07-2009, 10:50 AM
Have you guys heard about this place?

http://creationmuseum.org/

I've been there. It's a whole new level of stupidity, pretty amazing really.

moomoo
11-07-2009, 10:57 AM
One of the funniest things I've seen on campus this quarter was a right wing nut with a 'repent or burn' sign ranting at a dozen transfixed asian international students.

I saw one of these guys on Monday on my campus, walked by him very slowly, and gave him the middle finger as close as I possibly could right to his face. Felt very therapeutic. Not a very civil/tolerant way to express my beliefs but fearmongering and propaganda really piss me off.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 11:04 AM
Ugh, then you're just martyring these fucks ... ignoring them and letting the slip into obscurity would be the ideal approach. Every time you flip a Bible thumper the bird they become more convinced in their plight that the word of God is being oppressed and they need to be even more enthusiastic in their efforts.

liquidsnake28
11-07-2009, 11:05 AM
One of the funniest things I've seen on campus this quarter was a right wing nut with a 'repent or burn' sign ranting at a dozen transfixed asian international students.

You'll see a whole parade of those assholes at bonnaroo.

mountmccabe
11-07-2009, 11:10 AM
What the hell? The Origin of Species is as surprisingly well-written, succinct description of natural selection. EVERYONE should read it. Consider that it was written before genetics, before the discovery of DNA, and still manages to be more or less correct. It completely deserves its pedestal. All scientific works contain errors, but what "nonsense" do you speak of? Use examples.


So you're saying genetics and DNA and therefore an accurate description of how traits pass down are unimportant. Got it.

Basically your arguments are pointing towards its importance in knowing the history of science, in knowing where ideas came from. Which, yeah, is important to understanding how the world works. And, as I said, should be taught. Or, at least, taught about.

But, damn, if'n I'm gonna point folks to information about how evolution and natural selection works I'm not going to point to something 150 years old. Science isn't about personalities, it isn't about who got there first, it isn't about magic texts... it's about what is fucking right.

Also I haven't read the damn thing recently enough and I don't know where my copy is so I am not going to come up with examples. Or, at least, any more than you state specifically yourself. Which is to say Lamarckism is incorrect and the traits I got are not a "blend" of those my parents had.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 11:17 AM
So you're saying genetics and DNA and therefore an accurate description of how traits pass down are unimportant. Got it.

Basically your arguments are pointing towards its importance in knowing the history of science, in knowing where ideas came from. Which, yeah, is important to understanding how the world works. And, as I said, should be taught. Or, at least, taught about.

But, damn, if'n I'm gonna point folks to information about how evolution and natural selection works I'm not going to point to something 150 years old. Science isn't about personalities, it isn't about who got there first, it isn't about magic texts... it's about what is fucking right.

Also I haven't read the damn thing recently enough and I don't know where my copy is so I am not going to come up with examples. Or, at least, any more than you state specifically yourself. Which is to say Lamarckism is incorrect and the traits I got are not a "blend" of those my parents had.

I get what you're saying with this. Yes, albeit maybe without Darwin's discoveries we wouldn't have gone down paths that have led us to our more "complete" and sophisticated understanding of things now, but still, the modern crux of the ideology that Creationists should be so opposed to is comprised of discoveries that occurred well after The Origin of the Species. It's like, go ahead and knock Darwin, you fucks, but get back to me when you've debunked the double helix.

moomoo
11-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Ugh, then you're just martyring these fucks ... ignoring them and letting the slip into obscurity would be the ideal approach. Every time you flip a Bible thumper the bird they become more convinced in their plight that the word of God is being oppressed and they need to be even more enthusiastic in their efforts.

yeah, it builds on the already "bad reputation" of atheism (or any non-christian) too. I apologize for that, but it's so fucking hard to resist sometimes.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 11:36 AM
Well, let's just hope he thought you were a Muslim.

mountmccabe
11-07-2009, 11:37 AM
Basically, yeah.

Also if'n anyone wants to read the introduction they're adding (and On the Origin of Species itself) it's available online (http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf).


Also doesn't Mike Seaver say November 19th? The 22nd - a Sunday - wouldn't seem like a good day to hand stuff out to university students.

Alchemy
11-07-2009, 12:20 PM
I saw a graphic novel adaptation of Origin of Species today at a store. I didn't really like the illustrations though. Also, Natural Selection is pretty neat, because it isn't a case of "if Darwin never published his discoveries," because Alfred Wallace did a lot of work in this too. In fact, I think Darwin published his stuff so that he could be first.

In terms of understanding evolution, I agree that there are much, much better books that do the job than Origin of Species. But it's still an important text, just like the Communist Manifesto, despite that societies all over the world have run against many of Marx's assumptions. And, it is what most of America thinks of in terms of evolution. It's much more convenient for Creationists to attack Origin of Species, because people think there is only that one book to back it up. If they were to attack ALL the information and research and evidence on evolution, then for one thing, it'd be harder to do, and another thing, they'd admit to their being TONS of information and research and evidence.

rage patton
11-07-2009, 12:30 PM
I'm also really curious about these "undeniable connections to Adolf Hitler" considering Hitler was born 40 years after Darwin wrote it.

Me too. I really hope there are some people at my university handing this out.

mountmccabe
11-07-2009, 12:42 PM
I'm also really curious about these "undeniable connections to Adolf Hitler" considering Hitler was born 40 years after Darwin wrote it.


Me too. I really hope there are some people at my university handing this out.


Also if'n anyone wants to read the introduction they're adding (and On the Origin of Species itself) it's available online (http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf)

There is a section that starts on page 35 called "His Famous Student"... apparently using "student" in a very loose sense.

"It's undeniable, however, that some have taken the ideas of evolutionary theory and applied them to society with horrific results."

Then there is an extended quote from Darwin which I'mn't gonna retype.

"Adolf Hitler took Darwin's evolutionary philosophy to its logical conclusions."

Then there is an extended quote from Mein Kampf.

It goes on for a bit. The only real surprising part is the following:

"Just as he did with evolution, Hitler also used Christianity for his own evil political ends."

It is nice to see them acknowledge this... even if they don't go the next step and say that this invalidates neither Christianity nor natural selection.

faxman75
11-07-2009, 01:02 PM
This chick does my favorite presentation of the video.

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rage patton
11-07-2009, 01:23 PM
Thanks John, I'll read that later.

And that video was actually pretty good.

faxman75
11-07-2009, 01:30 PM
I'm obsessed with this chick now. I've subscribed to her youtube channel. I don't even know what she is saying half the time, I just love her accent and mannerisms.

faxman75
11-07-2009, 01:31 PM
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Alchemy
11-07-2009, 01:37 PM
She does a great job, actually. I love it.

rage patton
11-07-2009, 01:44 PM
Actually, I posed sort of what she said in question 4 in my grade 10 religion class. We were discussing who gets to go to heaven I asked "What about people who have never heard of God, but lived a good life?"
The answer "God would take this into acount and they would make it intoo heaven if he saw fit."
So then I asked "What about people who had heard of God, choose not to follow him, but lived just as good of a life as someone who followed God or had not heard of God?"
The answer "He was made aware of God, and made the conscious choice not to follow him. He will most likely not make it into heaven."
My response "Well, doesn't that mean that if we just stop telling teaching people about God, then more people will make it into heaven?"
I was told that I made no sense and the teacher (or perhaps it was a priest that day) moved onto some other peoples questions. That was actually one of the first instances where I seriously started to question my faith.

amyzzz
11-07-2009, 01:45 PM
That's pretty funny, Josh.

faxman75
11-07-2009, 01:50 PM
Last one, I promise.

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RedThom
11-07-2009, 02:00 PM
not to burst cameron's bubble.. but I think Adolf Hitler was a catholic.

mountmccabe
11-07-2009, 02:13 PM
The answer I've heard for four ("What will happen in the Afterlife to the people who never heard about your religion?") that seems to make the most sense (contextually, that is) is that the truth of Jehovah and Christianity is evident from nature. "The Heavens declare the glory of God" and all that. As such no one has any excuse. The amount of detail declared wouldn't be to the extent that a person exposed to God only through nature wouldn't get into great detail... but that a general overall story of creation, the fall and redemption would be undeniable. "Evidence" of this would be the variety of similar stories from diverse cultures and religions... vegetation ceremonies and floods and suchlike.

I, of course, think that's all bullshit... but from that perspective it makes about as much sense as the rest of it.


Personally I find question number three to be more interesting. "How do you justify God punishing Adam and Eve for something the did before having any knowledge about good and evil?"

woogie846
11-07-2009, 02:21 PM
This girl is great, thanks for posting.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 02:38 PM
not to burst cameron's bubble.. but I think Adolf Hitler was a catholic.

That's pretty controverted. He was definitely raised Roman Catholic and used a lot of religious references and imagery in his speeches/propaganda ... but there are also some quotes from him that seem to suggest that he was certainly Anti-Christianity, if not anti-religion.

This one's pretty much a stalemate.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 02:44 PM
I want to make love to this woman.

JebusLives
11-07-2009, 03:03 PM
So you're saying genetics and DNA and therefore an accurate description of how traits pass down are unimportant. Got it.

No, i'm saying Darwin didn't get into the specifics of how traits are passed on. Evolution by natural selection occurs at the species level, so he really didn't have to get into the mechanics of it. Mendelian genetics provided evidence for Darwin's theory, but did not supercede it.

faxman75
11-07-2009, 03:05 PM
I want to make love to this woman.

Get in line.

JebusLives
11-07-2009, 03:27 PM
Someone fire Hitchens and get this girl to be our spokeswoman! That is charisma.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 03:32 PM
I fired Hitchens about a year ago when I saw him sloppily debate Dinesh Dumbass D'Souza

faxman75
11-07-2009, 03:35 PM
He was probably just drunk. His batting average is pretty high so I wouldn't fault him for one sloppy debate.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-07-2009, 03:36 PM
Well, I was drunk, too.

faxman75
11-07-2009, 03:55 PM
^five!

Mr.Nipples
11-07-2009, 04:04 PM
This chick does my favorite presentation of the video.

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lol

"BOOOLSCHITTTT!"

hawkingvsreeve
11-07-2009, 04:32 PM
We just opened a Darwin exhibit at the museum. This was sent out in an email a week or so before.


ALL: Some people will question and challenge you about the Museum hosting the Darwin: Evolution|Revolution exhibition.

Here are a few responses you might be able to use.



Although revolutionary in their time, Darwin’s ideas are now the foundation of all modern biological science and form the basis of important medical breakthroughs, increased food production, and the work to preserve endangered species. An understanding of evolutionary biology has allowed us to alleviate more suffering and save more lives than perhaps any discovery in the last 200 years.

Darwin’s theory of evolution remains as the best explanation that science has to offer to account for the diverse forms of life we see on Earth today. It is at the core of natural science and a very appropriate subject for a natural history museum.

(If somebody invokes creationism or intelligent design)
Just as most scientists do not (and should not) interfere with other persons' spiritual beliefs, scientific research cannot (and should not) be ruled by religious beliefs. The quandary of an intelligent designer should be treated as a spiritual and religious question; a legitimate and fundamental question for most persons, but definitely not a scientific one.

You know, just in case we need to start fights with the religious types.

bobert
11-07-2009, 05:47 PM
The greatest part about these nuts is that they seem to embrace all of the technological advances that science has provided while simultaneously denouncing it. You won't find any clearer evidence of man's evolution than the radically advanced tools we've created in last couple thousand years. Yet when these boobs use their I-phones to organize there little anti-evolutionary tea-parties, the hypocrisy is completely lost on them. I bet you anything their edition of The Origin of Species comes with a CD-ROM and accompanying website. If you deny evolution, you should be forced to scrawl your propaganda on home made parchment with charcoal and distribute it by hand.

SoulDischarge
11-07-2009, 06:07 PM
The answer I've heard for four ("What will happen in the Afterlife to the people who never heard about your religion?") that seems to make the most sense (contextually, that is) is that the truth of Jehovah and Christianity is evident from nature. "The Heavens declare the glory of God" and all that. As such no one has any excuse. The amount of detail declared wouldn't be to the extent that a person exposed to God only through nature wouldn't get into great detail... but that a general overall story of creation, the fall and redemption would be undeniable. "Evidence" of this would be the variety of similar stories from diverse cultures and religions... vegetation ceremonies and floods and suchlike.

I, of course, think that's all bullshit... but from that perspective it makes about as much sense as the rest of it.

I'd like to hear a debate between religious types as to whether Helen Keller went to heaven or hell.

MissingPerson
11-07-2009, 06:09 PM
I'd imagine it would be much the same either way for her.

SoulDischarge
11-07-2009, 06:45 PM
This chick does my favorite presentation of the video.

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"YOU IIIIIIGNORANT MORON"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/e/ed/RentheChihuahua.JPG

mountmccabe
11-07-2009, 06:54 PM
I'd like to hear a debate between religious types as to whether Helen Keller went to heaven or hell.

Actually what I forgot to get to was what about not yet sentient beings. That is to say, mostly, what about babies.

This is more of a huh, I wonder, bit than a haha, gotcha.



I'd imagine it would be much the same either way for her.

This is far too funny.

Alchemy
11-07-2009, 06:54 PM
The greatest part about these nuts is that they seem to embrace all of the technological advances that science has provided while simultaneously denouncing it. You won't find any clearer evidence of man's evolution than the radically advanced tools we've created in last couple thousand years. Yet when these boobs use their I-phones to organize there little anti-evolutionary tea-parties, the hypocrisy is completely lost on them. I bet you anything their edition of The Origin of Species comes with a CD-ROM and accompanying website. If you deny evolution, you should be forced to scrawl your propaganda on home made parchment with charcoal and distribute it by hand.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm...... Kind of. Changes in tools over the past thousands of years isn't a sign of biological evolution. Tool evolution, certainly. However, if you were took look at the tools of the past millions of years. Like comparing Homo sapien tools to Homo habilis tools, then that would be a signifier of an increasing brain capacity. But as far human beings go, we had the same brain capacity thousands of years ago as we do now. We're just finding out about more things and teaching each other so that we don't have to start over from the very beginning every time a new generation is born. And so we make great progress.

bobert
11-07-2009, 07:29 PM
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm...... Kind of. Changes in tools over the past thousands of years isn't a sign of biological evolution. Tool evolution, certainly. However, if you were took look at the tools of the past millions of years. Like comparing Homo sapien tools to Homo habilis tools, then that would be a signifier of an increasing brain capacity. But as far human beings go, we had the same brain capacity thousands of years ago as we do now. We're just finding out about more things and teaching each other so that we don't have to start over from the very beginning every time a new generation is born. And so we make great progress.

Yes, we've made great progress through science and education. The evidence is everywhere. Darwin's initial discoveries were contradictory to the origin stories of every religion on the planet, and to fundamentalists that is a very threatening concept. Since The Origin Of Species, Darwin's theory of evolution has been refined and expounded on by further scientific studies, while religious doctrine remains stagnate (Vatican II doesn't count.) Scientific knowledge is constantly changing, refining, and evolving. It's what allowed us to cure Polio, land on the moon, and create the internet. It's what allows Kirk Cameron to post ignorant digital video posts on YouTube to denounce scientific fact. Science is what makes it possible to "find out about more things and teach each other so that we don't have to start over from the very beginning every time a new generation is born." This is the antithesis of religion. The fact that our brain capacity is the same as it was thousands of years ago is irrelevant - our tools (and collective knowledge) have evolved so our bodies haven't had to.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-08-2009, 07:01 AM
I'd like to hear a debate between religious types as to whether Helen Keller went to heaven or hell.

I have often found, that when I get into discussions about God/religion/afterlife, etc. 1) they often end up being very boring and frustrating and 2) the part that I feel really blows one's mind if they stop and talk out the logistics of it, is trying to make sense of a "Heaven", especially the Christian one.

It just seems so implausible to me, for tons of reasons, but predominantly for the suggestion of there being a uniform perfectness that suited everyone's needs.

faxman75
11-08-2009, 08:41 AM
She is pretty spot on about drugs as well.

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JebusLives
11-08-2009, 08:52 AM
I want her to whisper "marijuana" in my ear, over and over. that's it - i'm getting me a mail order bride.

hawkingvsreeve
11-08-2009, 10:02 AM
Yeah. God bless Romania.

faxman75
11-08-2009, 10:09 AM
Her Twitter profile picture.

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/288796053/IM003805.jpg

MissingPerson
11-08-2009, 10:11 AM
I'm not sure that hand is hers.

hawkingvsreeve
11-08-2009, 10:20 AM
You see her youtube channel background?

Edit:

http://i2.ytimg.com/bg/upX3k88Z1cRYCDuCPrmxlg/102.jpg?app=bg&v=4ad1bd6d

faxman75
11-08-2009, 10:40 AM
What a great Sunday afternoon.

stinkbutt
11-08-2009, 10:59 AM
This girl isn't preaching anything new or that everyone doesn't already know and she's not even that cute

Mr.Nipples
11-08-2009, 11:06 AM
she dresses as if she just walked out of a time machine sent from 1992...



would hit HARD...

Mr.Nipples
11-08-2009, 11:06 AM
HARD I SAY

moomoo
11-08-2009, 11:18 AM
you guys all have shitty taste.

it's all about this girl right here--

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faxman75
11-08-2009, 11:34 AM
Is that a man?

Alchemy
11-08-2009, 11:55 AM
This girl isn't preaching anything new or that everyone doesn't already know and she's not even that cute

Get out! Get THE FUCK out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously if everybody knew that, she wouldn't have to preach it!

faxman75
11-09-2009, 07:20 AM
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Chaplipman
11-12-2009, 05:13 AM
^
Retarded. All of it. She isn't even that hot.

faxman75
11-12-2009, 06:59 AM
What a terrible observation. You certainly don't have to agree but to call that retarded is baffling and to say she isn't "that" hot implies she is at least hot.

Maybe instead of "retarded" you should go prepare your response. Surely you won't have much difficulty making your case against a retard.

Chaplipman
11-12-2009, 09:49 AM
I really don't feel the need to spell it out for anyone, but fuck it.
She's rehashing the same old tired argument and approach that a lot of these so-called "atheist freethinkers" seem to be fond of. I'm all for atheism, religion, free thought, and debate amongst people who are able to support their beliefs with logical and rational arguments. But, when you see someone spewing out regurgitated bullshit from their mouths, you can make the assumption that they are, for the most part, mindless. Ergo, she is fucking retarded.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-12-2009, 09:54 AM
I really don't feel the need to spell it out for anyone, but fuck it.
She's rehashing the same old tired argument and approach that a lot of these so-called "atheist freethinkers" seem to be fond of. I'm all for atheism, religion, free thought, and debate amongst people who are able to support their beliefs with logical and rational arguments. But, when you see someone spewing out regurgitated bullshit from their mouths, you can make the assumption that they are, for the most part, mindless. Ergo, she is fucking retarded.

So only novel concepts are not "retarded" and only the first time they're spoken?

hawkingvsreeve
11-12-2009, 10:20 AM
I just like her hair.

Chaplipman
11-12-2009, 10:24 AM
So only novel concepts are not "retarded" and only the first time they're spoken?

Let me clarify that for you.



She's rehashing the same old tired argument and approach that a lot of these so-called "atheist freethinkers" seem to be fond of. I'm all for atheism, religion, free thought, and debate amongst people who are able to support their beliefs with logical and rational arguments.

Spewing dogma (in the non-religious sense) isn't presenting a logical argument to defend your position. When discussing concepts and ideas, of course you're going to tread water. The trick is to bring your own perspective, along with an analytical and critical mind, into the mix.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-12-2009, 10:39 AM
I haven't watched that most recent video. I felt her response to the Kirk Cameron video was, for the most part, rooted in valid criticisms.

faxman75
11-12-2009, 11:04 AM
Let me clarify that for you.



Spewing dogma (in the non-religious sense) isn't presenting a logical argument to defend your position. When discussing concepts and ideas, of course you're going to tread water. The trick is to bring your own perspective, along with an analytical and critical mind, into the mix.

If you aren't able to recognize her "own perspective" you clearly haven't watched. Her video blogs that I have posted are loaded with how she came to her personal beliefs, answers to critcial questions asked of her beliefs, mentions of religious teachings in public schools in Romania and how that isn't necessarily a terrible idea because it caused her to research on her own further and come to her own conclusions etc..etc...

So I have to ask, what the fuck are you talking about?

PassiveTheory
11-12-2009, 11:05 AM
November 22nd is a Sunday, how exactly are they going to be influencing universities on a weekend day?

humanoid
11-12-2009, 11:26 AM
November 22nd is a Sunday, how exactly are they going to be influencing universities on a weekend day?

the video actually says that they are distributing the books at universities on Thursday the 19th

mountmccabe
11-12-2009, 11:31 AM
Spewing dogma (in the non-religious sense) isn't presenting a logical argument to defend your position. When discussing concepts and ideas, of course you're going to tread water. The trick is to bring your own perspective, along with an analytical and critical mind, into the mix.

You know, I've heard that argument before. Generally stated much like that, too. Ergo, you're an idiot.

humanoid
11-12-2009, 11:33 AM
we're all idiots...nothing we've ever thought or said has been completely original without having been thought or stated by someone before us...same with this...dammit, I too am an idiot

PassiveTheory
11-12-2009, 11:39 AM
I think, maybe since I don't really care enough to investigate this organization to understand what they're doing, that you guys have far too little faith in people and their ability to analyze and comprehend information being (force fed?) distributed to them.

mountmccabe
11-12-2009, 11:43 AM
I mostly agree. We should strive to be original and innovative and interesting and new, locally if nothing else, but those are not the only elements that have value.

If you don't change the call there isn't necessarily a reason to change the response.

Chaplipman
11-12-2009, 11:50 AM
You know, I've heard that argument before. Generally stated much like that, too. Ergo, you're an idiot.

I think we pretty much established that here:

When discussing concepts and ideas, of course you're going to tread water. The trick is to bring your own perspective, along with an analytical and critical mind, into the mix.

A little reading comprehension goes a long way, my friend. If my argument sounded much like something else you've heard, I couldn't care less. It's just what I believe.


If you aren't able to recognize her "own perspective" you clearly haven't watched. Her video blogs that I have posted are loaded with how she came to believe why she believs, answers to critcial questions asked of her beliefs, mentions of religious teachings in public schools in Romania and how that isn't necessarily a terrible idea because it caused her to research on her own further and come to her own conclusions etc..etc...

So I have to ask, what the fuck are you talking about?

I've seen all her videos. The only one that comes even close to doing the things you've mentioned above is the last one you posted. I have also seen countless of videos done on the same subjects that generally seem to make the same arguments as she does and drop their "unique" perspective as well.
Anyways, I'm done. Sorry I hit a soft spot by pointing out how retarded your internet girlfriend is.

faxman75
11-12-2009, 12:17 PM
I've seen all her videos. The only one that comes even close to doing the things you've mentioned above is the last one you posted.

Umm, no. Wrong. Fail. I guess you watched but didn't listen. Most everything I stated was actually not in that last video at all but within all of the others you ignored and are now lying about watching.




I have also seen countless of videos done on the same subjects that generally seem to make the same arguments as she does and drop their "unique" perspective as well.
Anyways, I'm done. Sorry I hit a soft spot by pointing out how retarded your internet girlfriend is.

I was pretty clear and specific about what set her apart from others by citing examples from a variety of her video blogs and the best retort you have is you have seen others make the same "general" argument.

Well done. I see you are going to go stomp off and go kick some rocks. A much more suitable hobby for someone of your intellect.

psycobetabuckdown
11-12-2009, 12:21 PM
No one actually cares what she has to say though, right? So your argument is pointless, right?

faxman75
11-12-2009, 12:23 PM
Wrong! *lol* If it was just about looks we would just talk about the likes of whoever is on the cover next months Maxim.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-12-2009, 01:34 PM
A little reading comprehension goes a long way, my friend.

Hey Chaplipman! Are your lips so chapped from sucking dick? AHHHHHH!!!! (high fives Jeremy Piven)

JebusLives
11-12-2009, 01:42 PM
Everyone who thinks chaplipman should be allowed to continue posting, say "aye".

psycobetabuckdown
11-15-2009, 09:08 PM
aye do

Archie Bunker
11-16-2009, 12:58 PM
Chick is pretty hot, but she's Eastern European, so she is going to hit the wall really hard at age 30.

It's amazing how much less charging her profanity-laden "lessons" will be when she has a leatherface.

Monklish
11-16-2009, 01:59 PM
Hey Chaplipman! Are your lips so chapped from sucking dick? AHHHHHH!!!! (high fives Jeremy Piven)

hahahahaha

hendrixfan143
11-16-2009, 03:42 PM
i wonder when they will realize that biology only functions with the concept of evolution, kind of why it is necessary

PC-2 Violence
11-16-2009, 04:19 PM
2z-OLG0KyR4



That backdrop they are sitting on is soooo soothing.

theburiedlife
11-18-2009, 10:37 AM
That sneaky bastard! Apparently he passed out his version of the Origin of Species a full 4 days before he is supposed to at Cal Poly SLO, and on UC Berkeley (most likely on other campuses). None of my friends can find him on Cal's Campus though and I'm about to go on a run through campus to see if I can find him.

moomoo
11-18-2009, 10:46 AM
so I received a copy of this bullshit. what should I do with it? I actually kind of want to read the real part of the book.

Geno_g
11-18-2009, 11:30 AM
I want a copy just for the real book, and it would be nice to get a free one with a bunch of BS in the front of it, haha

faxman75
11-18-2009, 11:38 AM
They were at NYU today and this blogger did not get there soon enough to recieve a copy.

http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2009/11/18/darwin-comes-back-from-the-dead-preaches-creationism/


Here's another article.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116413

LooseAtTheZoo
11-18-2009, 12:22 PM
They were totally swarming NYU today. I'm still not quite sure what all the fuss was about, but nonetheless based on this thread I knew what was going on.

eskamo951
11-18-2009, 12:35 PM
That sneaky bastard! Apparently he passed out his version of the Origin of Species a full 4 days before he is supposed to at Cal Poly SLO, and on UC Berkeley (most likely on other campuses). None of my friends can find him on Cal's Campus though and I'm about to go on a run through campus to see if I can find him.

They were here?! I didn't even notice...

theburiedlife
11-18-2009, 01:12 PM
Yeah apparently they were. I just nabbed 3 copies of it.

Geno_g
11-18-2009, 01:16 PM
If anyone can grab me a copy, I would much appreciate it...

Mr.Nipples
11-18-2009, 01:18 PM
so I received a copy of this bullshit. what should I do with it? I actually kind of want to read the real part of the book.

if you want to send it to me, i could really use the binding for a final project i have coming up.

Geno_g
11-18-2009, 01:20 PM
Are they gonna be a SJSU? I might have to grab a couple copies...

Mr.Nipples
11-18-2009, 01:28 PM
i really would like to know where this shitwit got the money for such a project. if he ran a parish that i was a member of and used my donations for this shit, id punch the brotherfucker in the face until it caved in and shat his dockers full of calcium post death

theburiedlife
11-18-2009, 01:46 PM
His organization is passing out at least 3,000 copies at Berkeley alone, its insane. Little does he know that the protests for budget cuts are being held on the same day and stealing his spotlight.

Geno_g
11-18-2009, 01:58 PM
He also sells the books on he's website...

moomoo
11-18-2009, 02:03 PM
Instead of trying to argue with these guys or make some useless statement about religion, I went around and met as many as possible and asked for copies for my "church buddies." We had a gay ol time talking about em. I would come up, ask what they are handing out, and they would tell me "the Origin of Species by Darwin." and I would respond "oh, sorry, I am Christian." Then they lost their shit with excitement and were like "NO NO NO! this book IS for christians! there is a 50 page argument for intelligent design so you get both sides of the story!" and then I would respond "OH! NO WAY!? that's awesome! we can finally trick those non-believers." we ended each conversation on a good note, I even got a "high five for jesus" out of one of the old ladies. also got tons of hand-shakes for being such a "bold Christian" and "enthusiastic for the faith." I would walk away saying "God bless you!" trying not to crack the fuck up. I also met this really nice agnostic man named Owen who was going around doing the same shit-- most tolerable person I met all day, had a great conversation.

it was a win-win. these people were excited for me being such an awesome 'christian' while I was completely manipulating them and fucking around with them in order to make some money.

http://imgur.com/9dCmk.jpg

I plan on selling these on eBay for profit to pay for my Sea of Dream tickets. so sorry for those who asked for one, but I really wanna go to SF for new years. I will ship you one for 5 bucks if you really, really want one.

Mr.Nipples
11-18-2009, 02:05 PM
fuck its soft cover!? never mind...

Geno_g
11-18-2009, 02:08 PM
Hook it up with one, I can buy it on his site for 5 bucks, but it's all good, I'll try to track some down...

malcolmjamalawesome
11-18-2009, 02:14 PM
Instead of trying to argue with these guys or make some useless statement about religion, I went around and met as many as possible and asked for copies for my "church buddies." We had a gay ol time talking about em. I would come up, ask what they are handing out, and they would tell me "the Origin of Species by Darwin." and I would respond "oh, sorry, I am Christian." Then they lost their shit with excitement and were like "NO NO NO! this book IS for christians! there is a 50 page argument for intelligent design so you get both sides of the story!" and then I would respond "OH! NO WAY!? that's awesome! we can finally trick those non-believers." we ended each conversation on a good note, I even got a "high five for jesus" out of one of the old ladies. also got tons of hand-shakes for being such a "bold Christian" and "enthusiastic for the faith." I would walk away saying "God bless you!" trying not to crack the fuck up. I also met this really nice agnostic man named Owen who was going around doing the same shit-- most tolerable person I met all day, had a great conversation.

it was a win-win. these people were excited for me being such an awesome 'christian' while I was completely manipulating them and fucking around with them in order to make some money.

http://imgur.com/9dCmk.jpg

I plan on selling these on eBay for profit to pay for my Sea of Dream tickets. so sorry for those who asked for one, but I really wanna go to SF for new years. I will ship you one for 5 bucks if you really, really want one.

I changed my mind. You should have told them to get fucked.

moomoo
11-18-2009, 02:35 PM
... quit toying with my emotions like that.

faxman75
11-18-2009, 02:39 PM
Instead of trying to argue with these guys or make some useless statement about religion, I went around and met as many as possible and asked for copies for my "church buddies." We had a gay ol time talking about em. I would come up, ask what they are handing out, and they would tell me "the Origin of Species by Darwin." and I would respond "oh, sorry, I am Christian." Then they lost their shit with excitement and were like "NO NO NO! this book IS for christians! there is a 50 page argument for intelligent design so you get both sides of the story!" and then I would respond "OH! NO WAY!? that's awesome! we can finally trick those non-believers." we ended each conversation on a good note, I even got a "high five for jesus" out of one of the old ladies. also got tons of hand-shakes for being such a "bold Christian" and "enthusiastic for the faith." I would walk away saying "God bless you!" trying not to crack the fuck up. I also met this really nice agnostic man named Owen who was going around doing the same shit-- most tolerable person I met all day, had a great conversation.

it was a win-win. these people were excited for me being such an awesome 'christian' while I was completely manipulating them and fucking around with them in order to make some money.

http://imgur.com/9dCmk.jpg

I plan on selling these on eBay for profit to pay for my Sea of Dream tickets. so sorry for those who asked for one, but I really wanna go to SF for new years. I will ship you one for 5 bucks if you really, really want one.

Well fucking done. You deserve props for actually carrying out a mission and then showing photographic evidence. I fully support this. Best of luck getting to Sea of Dreams.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-24-2009, 01:01 PM
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Bad sound but the point is clear: pwnge

MantisMel
11-24-2009, 01:04 PM
Shun the non-believer!!!!! SHUUUUUUNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shredder
11-24-2009, 01:11 PM
why does the kid from "growing pains" think he's relevant?

MantisMel
11-24-2009, 01:26 PM
Growing Pains and the series of Left Behind. That's all. OH! And that his little sister is D.J. from Full House

malcolmjamalawesome
11-24-2009, 01:38 PM
We call her Deej around here.

Shredder
11-24-2009, 01:42 PM
DJ Tanner is a good DJ name. just sayin is all... just sayin

malcolmjamalawesome
11-24-2009, 01:43 PM
That was my DJ name circa 2000-2001. I played the Full House theme at the end of the night. Not a lie.

Shredder
11-24-2009, 01:45 PM
Pants Off, Dance Off.

chairmenmeow47
11-24-2009, 01:50 PM
there is already a dj tanner.

malcolmjamalawesome
11-24-2009, 01:51 PM
I assume you mean me.

Sleepingrock
11-24-2009, 02:02 PM
7-NOZU2iPA8