The Official 2010 Glastonbury Coachella Board Meetup

[MissingPerson]

I don't ever want to meet a person who hears the words "tranny disco" and doesn't want in.

[suprefan]

Dont analyze me!!!

But obviously you're right. Im a stubborn individual, ok?

(still cant forget about the tranny disco. i wasnt kidding about checking it out, sounds like my scene)

Its her job to do so.

Also, what if you had this same attitude about the Killers? Then you wouldnt be all raving mad about them at this point in time now would you?

[Wes Anderson]

What about a tranny disco?

[sbessiso]

I don't ever want to meet a person who hears the words "tranny disco" and doesn't want in.

No kidding! I actually have a goal of going to a Drag Show when in Ireland.

[suprefan]

What about a tranny disco?

Thats what your next movie is about. Tom Waits is starring, and Paul Thomas Anderson is producing.

[MissingPerson]

No kidding! I actually have a goal of going to a Drag Show when in Ireland.

http://www.pantibar.com/

[sbessiso]

http://www.pantibar.com/

omg....this is where im going. thank you mp!! :pulse:pulse:pulse

http://www.pantibar.com/attachments/233_IMG_2754.JPG

[rideincircles]

I am hoping that it's not Muse U2 & Pearl Jam only for the reason that I saw all of them in October. If so then I will probably see all 3, because they are all amazing live. I can't wait.
We are still sorting out our itinerary and haven't got any reservations yet. Still need to figure out where to go after Glastonbury.

here are 3 possibilities

Muse will be awesome on their turf.

R0CoFI58u-c

U2 connects with the crowd.

lza6kyp5R30

Pearl Jam Rocks.

NkiVasNc3Bg

[suprefan]

Well that sucks for you cause 2 of those are happening.

[rage patton]

Aren't PJ playing a show somewhere else on June 27th now? Does that mean no Glasto?

[suprefan]

Check their dates.

[ShyGuy75]

pearl jam!!!!!!!

http://www.rockinpark.nl/

[shakermaker113]

good news!

[bullokz]

pearl jam!!!!!!!

http://www.rockwerchter.be/en/home/ (week after Glastonbury heh heh)

[sbessiso]

HIP HIP

HURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

congrats.

[sbessiso]

they saw my avatar and just knew

[rage patton]

Psh. You now know Vedder is not as scary as you percieved him in 08. It was simply the mushrooms talking. Now that you have realized you can enjoy Vedder, open yourself up to Pearl Jam.

[PJandBompton]

Psh. You now know Vedder is not as scary as you percieved him in 08. It was simply the mushrooms talking. Now that you have realized you can enjoy Vedder, open yourself up to Pearl Jam.

and like i said before. Eddie played with Jack Johnson and Salah did not even realize he was there...he could not possibly be that scary.

[Boourns]

Rihanna wants to play Glasto (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/front_page/newsid_10000000/newsid_10003300/10003391.stm)

[MissingPerson]

See this is what really bothers me. Why will I love it? Why do I HAVE to love it?

You don't have to love it, in the sense that there's no obligation, like we're not going to smash up your hands if you don't enjoy it. However, it's simply that prior experience suggests to us that the chances of anybody not loving it are so low as to be dismissable. So perhaps "You'll surely love it" would be a more appropriate phrasing.

Great songs that generate a lot of energy and demand crowd participation. And charisma is probably the wrong word for what Win Butler has going on onstage, but whatever it is, he's got lots of it and it works.

Also, I can't decide if the Rihanna idea is awesome or terrible.

[Boourns]

Sir Gaga played, so I guess it's possible.

[chiapet]

I like Rihanna but I'm not sure she has a place at glasto.

[shakermaker113]

funny. I was under the impression that everything had a place at glasto.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

http://flavorwire.com/55572/the-most-anticipated-band-reunions-of-2010

An article I wrote for Flavorwire. The last two are my speculation of reunions relevant to Glastonbury.

[HandBanana]

I for one would love to see Rhianna at Glasto, tho I probably would be somewhere else while she was on.

[liquidsnake28]

funny. I was under the impression that everything had a place at glasto.

ICP and Slipknot are so glasto. Let's make room for the Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus while we're at it.

[sbessiso]

and like i said before. Eddie played with Jack Johnson and Salah did not even realize he was there...he could not possibly be that scary.

Actually, I was on so much LSD I dont think I even saw Jack Johnson himself. Too busy dancing/soaking in the intensity of the crowd. Man that was so fun.

And to be perfectly honest, I would consider maybe checking out Rihanna. Now if BEYONCE played, holy shit I would flip a tit. You would know where to find me

[chiapet]

Even I'd go see Beyonce. I just had a semi drunken conversation about even about how even people who are not into "that" kind of music find Beyonce appealing. Because her songs are so incredibly catchy.

[HandBanana]

Beyonce + Glasto + "Crazy In Love" = Funmageddon.

[ShyGuy75]

beyonce is a no talent hack with horse shiat songs.

shocking that some of you would be excited for such a thing : /

[MissingPerson]

You're trying too hard to hate everything if you can hate Beyoncé.

[sbessiso]

Even though its technically Destinys Child, if she were to perform "Bootylicious". Well, you guys would experience a side of me you've never seen before.

[Boourns]

I heard that awful "Survivor" song too many times, so it's hard for me to even approach any others.

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

all the single ladies.

[emtgreg]

Put a Ring On It!!

[suprefan]

Even though its technically Destinys Child, if she were to perform "Bootylicious". Well, you guys would experience a side of me you've never seen before.

I think everyone has seen all your sides at this point.

[bullokz]

funny. I was under the impression that everything had a place at glasto.

this

[chiapet]

Even though its technically Destinys Child, if she were to perform "Bootylicious". Well, you guys would experience a side of me you've never seen before.

Haven't we? Are you sure?

[MissingPerson]

Yeah, I was just thinking that.

Unless Beyonce somehow turns you into Henry Rollins or something, I don't think any of us would be overly surprised.

[Monklish]

You guys are forgetting what's possibly the best girl pop song since The Supremes--Say My Name.

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

I don't think you're ready for this jelly.

[Monklish]

We've seen you act like a big *** before, Salad.

[boarderwoozel3]

Rihanna wants to play Glasto (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/front_page/newsid_10000000/newsid_10003300/10003391.stm)


Even if I'm not headlining I would love to be there.

:rotfl

[liquidsnake28]

http://flavorwire.com/55572/the-most-anticipated-band-reunions-of-2010

An article I wrote for Flavorwire. The last two are my speculation of reunions relevant to Glastonbury.

Led Zepplin already said no fucking way. They're about as likely as Talking Heads or The Smiths at this point.

[shakermaker113]

Led Zepplin already said no fucking way. They're about as likely as Talking Heads or The Smiths at this point.

you mean they're playing coachella this year?

[sbessiso]

Haven't we? Are you sure?

I dont think ive ever unleashed my Beyonce side before. Booty poppin :D

[Boourns]

well that's a relief (http://www.nme.com/news/fleetwood-mac/48831)

[shakermaker113]

lol. at least that rumor was squashed before it even made it over here.

[ShyGuy75]

You're trying too hard to hate everything if you can hate Beyoncé.

ok?

what qualities does she have that i should love? horrible dancing? dumb lyrics? manufactured beats?

'from beyonce to arcade fire and everything in between' - penned by frenchie. i would read that.

[shakermaker113]

what qualities does she have that i should love?

a nice ass.

[shotglass75]

ba doom ching!!!

[Monklish]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IplRbp72KhI/SwsQHH6bClI/AAAAAAAACOk/ZUKXrZTtdCA/s400/beyonce.booty.lift.jpg

[shakermaker113]

...having a hard time navigating away from this page now.

[chiapet]

I don't know how people *wouldn't* like Beyonce. Her music is catchy as hell, she has a great voice, she's beautiful, and seems pretty sane and unaffected by how popular she is.

[liquidsnake28]

Rihanna's music is much catchier than Beyonce's though. Pon de Replay and Umbrella are two of the catchiest newer pop songs I can remember hearing.

[chiapet]

Rihanna has a couple of catchy songs but the albums in full are hard to listen to, at least for me.

[sonofhal]

Better brush up on my Fleetwood mac back cat!

[sbessiso]

Rihanna's music is much catchier than Beyonce's though. Pon de Replay and Umbrella are two of the catchiest newer pop songs I can remember hearing.

jesus fucking christ tim, do you realize you've become the new menik? all you do is say the opposite thing


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IplRbp72KhI/SwsQHH6bClI/AAAAAAAACOk/ZUKXrZTtdCA/s400/beyonce.booty.lift.jpg

so hot

[menikmati]

right...

[bullokz]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IplRbp72KhI/SwsQHH6bClI/AAAAAAAACOk/ZUKXrZTtdCA/s400/beyonce.booty.lift.jpg

oh hai

[paulthomasanderson]

Rihanna's music is much catchier than Beyonce's though. Pon de Replay and Umbrella are two of the catchiest newer pop songs I can remember hearing.

She wants to play there, how nice. How come every time my eyes meet with hers now on anything she's virtually nude? Would be better to see than some shitty Travis or Stereophonics set though.

[boarderwoozel3]

ok?

what qualities does she have that i should love? horrible dancing? dumb lyrics? manufactured beats?

'from beyonce to arcade fire and everything in between' - penned by frenchie. i would read that.

Interesting response. Not hating something doesn't imply one loves that thing. Dichotomy is a tool of the close-minded. And manufactured beats? That brush covers an insane amount of music.

*does sassy snapping thing*

[liquidsnake28]

jesus fucking christ tim, do you realize you've become the new menik? all you do is say the opposite thing


I'm just saying what I think. Pon de Replay is a big guilty pleasure of mine. It's a great dance song that club DJ's are neglecting for Soulja Boy and all this other bullshit pop rap. If all of my posts come across as contradictory and negative to you then that's just your deluded perspective.

I like Beyonce too.

Jesus Fucking Christ, Salah

[boarderwoozel3]

This begs the question:

What kind of clubs are you going to?

[liquidsnake28]

Clubs with women in them.

[emtgreg]

Gee that narrow's it down.

[boarderwoozel3]

Depends on where you're coming from :)

But the initial point stands that any establishment playing Soulja Boy is fail to the max.

[boarderwoozel3]

MP, do gay boys in Dublin have a lispy Irish accent? I'm a bit miffed I missed out on that.

[shakermaker113]

Would be better to see than some shitty Travis or Stereophonics set though.

very true.

[Boourns]

She wants to play there, how nice. How come every time my eyes meet with hers now on anything she's virtually nude? Would be better to see than some shitty Travis or Stereophonics set though.

Stereophonics, yeah, but Travis was good at Coachella. Would also be better than Kasabian or Kaiser Chiefs. I get all of them mixed up.

[shakermaker113]

Stereophonics, yeah, but Travis was good at Coachella. Would also be better than Kasabian or Kaiser Chiefs. I get all of them mixed up.

no it wouldn't.

[Boourns]

So they will be showing the World Cup on the Pyramid screens on Wednesday. Was wondering if the game would help ease the clusterfuck of traffic by motivating people to stay home on Wednesday and turn up late or on Thursday. Guess not.

[paulthomasanderson]

no it wouldn't.

This. Kaisers are hit and miss though. I actually did enjoy Travis' set at Coachella but saw them on Jools' program the other day and found it god awful. Finally, the record needs to be set - those who continue to say Stereophonics are the most under-appreciated U.K. band of the decade need to go buy a new set of headphones and listen to the dozens of bands that actually are worthy.

[paulo999]

So they will be showing the World Cup on the Pyramid screens on Wednesday. Was wondering if the game would help ease the clusterfuck of traffic by motivating people to stay home on Wednesday and turn up late or on Thursday. Guess not.

Difficult to know for sure, but I think alot of people will try to get there even earlier simply because of last year's roadblock.

I've been told by someone close the festival that the decision to show all England games was made some time ago. As it pans out, that means it is very likely there will be a knockout game on either Saturday or Sunday. Probably being shown in more than one place.

My guess is that none of the screenings for that game will use a main stage - which is good news for non-England fans.

It could be a chance to see a big-ish act much closer up, because a fair few people will be watching the game. By early Wednesday evening, it'll be known when that following game will be.

(The World Cup is massive over here. We're not a very patriotic nation compared with the US, but once every four years, it goes ballistic. If there is an England game during work time, some employers even set up screens in their offices so their staff can watch. The country comes to a stop. Deserted streets.)

[emtgreg]

That's awesome.

I wish sometimes we got excited about say, SOMETHING, besides OMG FLAG or OMG FAGZ once in a while...

[chiapet]

I was in London during the world cup in 2006 - my first day in town was the first game that england played. I had no idea what was going on, and had been waiting for a bus that never showed up. After walking part of the way back to my apartment, I realized the buses were delayed due to a huge traffic jam cased by soccer hooligans crowding the streets. ;)

[shakermaker113]

in 2002 when the world cup was in japan/korea, what would be england's final match... I think quarter finals? against brazil... 50% of the country was watching, a lot of them out at the bar. game started at 6 am local time.

[sbessiso]

Soccer...*ahem* excuse me football players are so beautiful. Beach High Soccer :pulse

[chiapet]

50% of the country was watching, a lot of them out at the bar. game started at 6 am local time.

You say that like there's something wrong with being at a bar at 6AM. Actually I remember that only because the game was on a work day IIRC, and most of our UK team failed to show up for work that day.

FWIW, the main reason I don't follow sports any more is that my teams are ones that mostly play in eastern time zones, and to watch the games, I'd have to go to a sports bar at 8:30AM on Sundays. I have nothing against going to the bar in the morning, but almost everything against getting up before 11. (Today is a fluke, I woke up from a bizarre traveling nightmare).

[shakermaker113]

I didn't mean to suggest it's a bad thing.

[chiapet]

shaker, I saw that you did santacon/santarchy. Did you get caught in torrential rains all day?

It occurred to me yesterday that maybe the glastonbury rain potential is being overhyped on account of the southern Californians. I missed a prime chance to test out my wellies (and resultingly was soaked up to my knees).

[shakermaker113]

no. it rained for spells, but it was dry most of the day. in the bars at least. I was quite grateful for my umbrella when we were at civic center and walking up polk st. but I lost it shortly thereafter and it didn't matter much.

[Boourns]

I hate soccer, but I'm a sucker for experiences, so I might have to check out some of the world cup at the pyramid. I wonder what the crowd would be like...the rowdiest bar times a thousand?

[MissingPerson]

MP, do gay boys in Dublin have a lispy Irish accent? I'm a bit miffed I missed out on that.

We had our first gay sportsman come out lately, we were all very proud of how progressive we were.

UT5DUTmNfXU

[Boourns]

Apaprently Ed from the Chemical Brothers tweeted "glastonbury", but deleted it.

[shakermaker113]

it would be more surprising to me if the chemical brothers didn't play glastonbury.

[Gribbz]

You say that like there's something wrong with being at a bar at 6AM. Actually I remember that only because the game was on a work day IIRC, and most of our UK team failed to show up for work that day.

FWIW, the main reason I don't follow sports any more is that my teams are ones that mostly play in eastern time zones, and to watch the games, I'd have to go to a sports bar at 8:30AM on Sundays. I have nothing against going to the bar in the morning, but almost everything against getting up before 11. (Today is a fluke, I woke up from a bizarre traveling nightmare).

The bar I work at opens at 6 am.

[chiapet]

Orbital is playing Isle of Wight two weeks before glastonbury. If they are not on the lineup, I might have to consider some terrible idea about going a couple of weeks early.

[shakermaker113]

that is a terrible idea. also you may not know if they are on the lineup until it's too late.

[sbessiso]

just watch em twice!

[shakermaker113]

I did that this year. :-)

[sbessiso]

what, you want a cookie

[chiapet]

I'm guessing/hoping that if Orbital is playing, it will be announced or leaked somewhere before the final lineup is announced.

[emtgreg]

I want a cookie.

[sbessiso]

I want a cookie.

OUTRAGEOUS OATMEAL!

[emtgreg]

Fantastic Idea!! hahahah

I have promised myself to not purchase any food from work!!

It's hard but my broke ass has to do it...

[sbessiso]

it sucks youre a store manager and have to be responsible. cuz no one pays for shit here (dont report me to howard!)

[MissingPerson]

One of my colleagues very nearly turned 'Rbital away at the gate, 45 minutes before they were due onstage earlier this year.

They were surprisingly patient about it.

[paulo999]

If anyone is interested in the scene that Orbital came from, it's worth trying to find a torrent of "Rave New World".

It's the best music documentary I've ever seen. It was part of high quality science series on Britain's Channel Four, in the mid nineties.

It is hinged around the science and cultural influence of MDMA in the dance music scene, which at the time was a much more underground counter-culture thing. They speak to everyone from Shulgin to the Hartnoll brothers, show somebody 'coming up' in lab conditions, and there's some great footage of parties and gigs.

It's entirely non judgemental or sensationalist. They just try to get to the bottom of why the drug works so well for that type of music.

(MDMA has nearly dried up in Europe. A key precursor has been banned, so manufacturing has collapsed. Sadly the hole has been filled by Mephedrone, which - whilst legal in many countries - appears to be causing users far more problems than the illegal drug it has replaced)

[emtgreg]

If I find a torrent, I'll up it here!

[sbessiso]

it would be more surprising to me if the chemical brothers didn't play glastonbury.

I guess i'd finally be able to see what all the hoopla is about

[paulo999]

Found a web player version. Although it's not on YouTube any more, it seems there's a full length one on google vid. 50 minutes long, so you'll need to settle down properly to watch:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8324968160402779629#

(I've just rewatched. The first half is the science stuff, the second more about the culture and influences. A fair few US references, including Burning Man.)

[shakermaker113]

If anyone is interested in the scene that Orbital came from, it's worth trying to find a torrent of "Rave New World".

awesome. thank you.

[ShyGuy75]

Musical memoirs: Glastonbury ‘86

Let me take you back to the time of the mid eighties when the country was in the same sort of mess as it is now. Miners fighting pitched battles against the police, unemployment through the roof and the decay taking place in every industrial corner of this great country was plain to see by all. Being a teenager growing up in this environment was pretty bleak and as you can imagine an outlet for the mind can take you away from the grind of it all. If your toxin of choice was alcohol you could go down the local off-licences, but if you smoked cannabis or picked the local hallucinogens then you were thought of as a lower class of citizen. Even going to see a local band in town you ran the risk of being pulled by the drug squad, especially when the main band were in town as their fan base was easy pickings.

Being 17 at the time with a love for music, free thought and expression I read about a music festival which could cater for all my needs with a Woodstock vibe about the whole thing. June soon came around and I, with a group of like minded individuals, found ourselves ducking behind hedge rows avoiding farmers hunting down hippies in their land rovers. Two hedge rows later and we were all on the festival site for there were no fortress like fencing and guard dogs used back then. But here is the main point; the police were not permitted to enter the festival. So as you can imagine, this made for some extremely free spirited behaviour of all sorts. In addition to all of this you had the Rainbow Warriors, a group of hippies tens of thousands strong who were always permitted free entry for fear that their hundreds of painted buses, ambulances and vans would clog up the country roads around the festival.

Having been told this festival would have the Woodstock vibe I was in for a bit of a shock, for Woodstock had nothing on this place. This was more like something from ‘Mad Max III’. You can look around Glastonbury today and see flags on the tents to let people know where they’re from, but back then most of the flags would indicate which acid was being sold in that tent (personally I liked the purple circle flag) and I will never forget a very big orange tent to the left hand side of the pyramid stage. It sold cannabis and was run by about 20-30 black boys who had no shame in purveying their pot while punters listened to the bands of the day not more than one hundred yards away on the main stage.

I remember feeling quite overwhelmed and even a little frightened, for this was a totally lawless society right here in the UK. But after the initial impact I soon chilled to the experience.

Dub Reggae seemed to pound out of every tent and the nearest drug dealer shouting at the top of his voice how strong his hashish was. This was one true freedom festival for all walks of life. At first glance you would think this as just a gathering of all the evils of society but this would be so far from the truth. Doctors, firemen, solicitors and even soon to be police officers all enjoyed the wildness that Glastonbury had to offer. For this was a once-in-a-year event, that people could go to, let their hair down and enjoy life without the fear of being arrested.

Even outside the event was a free festival with many live bands including ‘Hawkwind’ playing on the infamous Wanko Riley’s travelling stage. There was also the emergence of dance tents pumping out their repetitive crap, but were all free and all set up in the true festival spirit.

The music on the main stage was astounding with one of the best line-ups that I have witnessed myself with bands like The Pogues , John Martin, Level42, Gil Scot Heron and Robert Cray to name but a few.

But one man on the acoustic stage always stood out and that was Billy Bragg. To watch one man live, with guitar plus amp and songs full of truth, political and social satire of that calibre is quite humbling.

Don’t get me wrong four days of this was hard going and to get back to a warm bed and live a normal life was more than welcome. But you always knew that this was somewhere you could look forward to going.

http://www.economicvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Glastonbury-215x300.jpg

http://www.economicvoice.com/musical-memoirs-glastonbury-86/5004476

[chiapet]

Mmmm hash. Sorry I skimmed. :/

[shakermaker113]

so I finally downloaded google earth and tried to look at glastoearth. am I missing something? is it really only just a map with icons on it? it's kinda boring. I was hoping it would actually have satellite images taken during the festival.

[Boourns]

The point is to show where everything is and how ridiculously packed full of epic shit to see and do Glasto really is.

[emtgreg]

As it is, it seems to me that trying to see "everything" is a lost cause.

[chiapet]

Can we revisit budgeting costs for this trip? What would be a reasonable amount to allow for food, water, alcohol and buying a little bit of merch at the festival?

[Boourns]

I spent around £200, but £50 of that was on my tent and wellies and another £15 on batteries and ponchos. If you plan on buying food AND alcohol, then more. You can save money by bringing your own booze and food, but five days in a mud pit? Sorry, gotta have a hot meal. I plan on bringing a box of wine for getting drunk cheaply, but will get a few pints of cider to try for the sake of enjoyment.

Lowe's is awesome. Got 20 Duracel batteries for $9.99 from them. Will do that again next year.

[sbessiso]

*sigh*

My interest and dedication has been waning. I dont think im ready yet for such a trip

[rage patton]

Are you thinking of loosing the deposit and bailing?

Don't do it Salah! You know it will be worth it!

[shakermaker113]

you get most of the desposit back if you cancel.

also salah doesn't mean it. it's just that time of the month again.

[chiapet]

Salah, you still have two months to think about it. The trip is going to be amazing, please don't talk yourself out of it.

I marked my vacation on my boss's calendar yesterday. For Coachella and Glasto and possibly Roskilde. And I told him I want more days off because of all the extra hours lately (so I can go early for glasto). :)

[Boourns]

*sigh*

My interest and dedication has been waning. I dont think im ready yet for such a trip

The most ridiculously epic place on earth? British boys? All sorts of debauchery from sunset to sunrise? Just do it.

I am more excited about my second Glasto than I was for my first, if that's saying anything.

[ShyGuy75]

qcI5-nOEsYM

[sbessiso]

I have a crippling lack of confidence.

[Boourns]

Glasto will boost it.

[chiapet]

Salah, lack of confidence about what? Tell us what you're nervous about for Glastonbury and we'll explain why you shouldn't worry :)

[moomoo]

If I find a torrent, I'll up it here!

holding you to this greg :).

[LooseAtTheZoo]

I wanna live like common people...

[shakermaker113]

don't.

[JSam67]

*sigh*

My interest and dedication has been waning. I dont think im ready yet for such a trip

I'm gonna have to check but I think I won the pool for "When Will Salah Drop Out of Glastonbury?" (I said Christmas)

Meanwhile, I know this news is like a week old, but I just saw that Air and LCD Soundsystem have been announced for the Sonar Festival, which happens June 17-20 in Spain. Fingers crossed they'll both show at Glasto, too!

http://www.nme.com/news/lcd-soundsystem/48909

[ShyGuy75]

i wanna run
i want to hide
i wanna tear down the walls
that hold me inside


http://britmusicscene.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/pyramid-stage-sunset-glastonbury-2008.jpg

http://www.glowsafe.com/e-shop/images/glastonbury-tor%20final.gif

[shakermaker113]

I'm gonna have to check but I think I won the pool for "When Will Salah Drop Out of Glastonbury?" (I said Christmas)

Meanwhile, I know this news is like a week old, but I just saw that Air and LCD Soundsystem have been announced for the Sonar Festival, which happens June 17-20 in Spain. Fingers crossed they'll both show at Glasto, too!

ye of little faith...

I thought sonar was quite good this year. I don't remember how much overlap in the lineups there was though.

[sbessiso]

I'm gonna have to check but I think I won the pool for "When Will Salah Drop Out of Glastonbury?" (I said Christmas)

I wasnt aware of this poll. Thanks broseph

[Boourns]

Salah, lack of confidence about what? Tell us what you're nervous about for Glastonbury and we'll explain why you shouldn't worry :)

Seconded.

Salah, whatever worst case scenario you can imagine, it won't be as bad as sitting at home and reading about all the amazing things you could have seen.

[Boourns]

I wanna live like common people...

Ugh, this really needs to happen.

08 Sunday: The Verve
09 Sunday: Blur
10 Sunday: Pulp

I'm glad that The Verve actually lowered themselves to playing our country a couple times last year.

fU42uxeFp2I

[chiapet]

The verve were only so-so. Richard's ego is bigger than the band ever was. I'd actually rather have the likes of U2.

But Blur and Pulp for the other nights would be fine. :) Do you think Pulp is big enough to headline? I don't know how popular they were in the UK relative to the states, so I have no idea. I wouldn't see them as "the" headliner, though obviously I'd see them over most anyone else.

Still hoping for an allegedly horrific live performing madchester reunion act. :/

[Boourns]

Well, they famously got bumped up to headliner at the last minute in 95 and everyone loved it. One of Michael Eavis' favorite sets. Then they came back and headlined in 98, so yeah, they would in 2010 or '11 or whenever it happens.

[MissingPerson]

As a fairly neutral, non-Boourns party, I'd say that Pulp would definitely be big enough to headline at Glastonbury. Absolutely no doubt about it, yes.

[chiapet]

That's good to hear them. I don't see them as being "that" big, but obviously I think they'd be amazing at Glastonbury.

[Boourns]

Might as well bring this to the appropriate thread:
http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/news/an-end-of-year-chat-with-emily

Saturday headliner is booked, to be announced early next year. Sunday headliner narrowed down to three main options.

[chiapet]

I like this :)


When do you think they'll be announced?
I can't give you a date yet, but probably early next year. We'd like to let people know. The great thing about next year is that there's a lot of bands who've been a big part of the Festival who really want to get involved and not necessarily in the slot that they would normally have. A lot of them are much bigger than where they're going to be playing. But there are some real Glastonbury heritage bands that mean a lot to us and mean a lot to the audience. I think people will be really, really excited about the line-up.

[Boourns]

Yes, sounds very promising.

[sbessiso]

I wonder if one of them is the killers

[emtgreg]

Killers -> Beck probably

[Boourns]

Beck is going to pull an Emmy the great and play sets all over the place throughout the weekend.

[sbessiso]

My family got me a new camera "for europe", sexy new underwear "for europe" (lol! i think that was a joke), and a 2010 Students Guide to Europe. I guess I have no choice now

[Boourns]

Yep! Now you'll hurt their feelings if you don't! Those are great gifts.

[Boourns]

jFjAWhY1Amg

[chiapet]

Salah, hang in there. You have two months before the deposits are due in full, and I'd bet we're going to hear a lot more confirmations between now and then. This is going to be amazing no matter who plays, too.

What really worries you about this trip? We're going to be there, and would we let you have a terrible time???

[PJandBompton]

Killers -> Beck probably

partly right...

Killers ->Beck->White Stripes w/ guest Beck

[Boourns]

Night 1:
Beck (acoustic tent)->Scissor Sisters (other stage)->The Cure(other stage)

Night 2:
Beck (secret set at The Park)->The Killers (pyramid)->Depeche Mode (pyramid)

Night 3:
Beck (pyramid)->The Raconteurs (pyramid)->The White Stripes (pyramid)

[shakermaker113]

here's something I haven't heard discussed before...

what do we do AFTER the festival? I'm not talking trips to amsterdam, I mean the day you leave the festival... it just occurred to me that going to check into a hotel in london/bristol caked in mud might seem a little odd. where did you go the day you left, boourns? and should we plan on spending a day in recovery? I figure if we leave glastonbury monday, I may not want to move on to my next adventure until wednesday...

[chiapet]

Provided funds and vacation time work out, my plan was to stay someplace local on Monday night, then to Stonehenge on Tuesday, back to London Tuesday night, and off to the next thing on Wednesday. I haven't considered lodging yet but am hoping that most people will have booked return trips to London for Monday.

[Boourns]

Monday mornng I got on the coach back to London and checked back into the toilet of a hostel. Lots of glastonberries were staying there; hostels are used to it.

All I did was sleep and do laundry, and wow did that stuff stink.

[shakermaker113]

I think I'll avoid the toilet hostel.

[chiapet]

BTW, after Bonnaroo, I stayed in a reasonably nice hotel. They didn't bat an eye at me coming in caked in mud. First thing I did was get into the shower fully dressed in an attempt to salvage some clothing and shoes to wear.

[shakermaker113]

hahaha. should I have a locker somewhere in town to leave clean clothes???

[boarderwoozel3]

I anyone is looking for a Hostel in London I suggest the Astor Museum Hoestel. It's literally across the street from the British Museum in the middle of everything. I had a great time there last summer.

[sbessiso]

Night 1:
Beck (acoustic tent)->Scissor Sisters (other stage)->The Cure(other stage)

Night 2:
Beck (secret set at The Park)->The Killers (pyramid)->Depeche Mode (pyramid)

Night 3:
Beck (pyramid)->The Raconteurs (pyramid)->The White Stripes (pyramid)

Jesus......

Can you even imagine????

[emtgreg]

Amsterdam?

I will go to Amsterdam with people from the Coachella board...

[Boourns]

O rly?

I don't know if I'll have time/money to do anything but Glastonbury yet, but if I do, Amsterdam is high on the list. If Pulp actually reunites and plays Finsbury or Hyde Park the following week, I'll stick around for that, otherwise, a few days somewhere other than London would be great.

[emtgreg]

I am skipping the LDN. About the only thing that could get me to go is a date with Lily Allen.

[Boourns]

London is like New York...it has all the advantages of being in a major city (public transportation, nightlife, every band, etc) but cleaner, even more expensive, and with horrible food.

[shakermaker113]

horrible food.

it's an aquired taste, dammit.

[emtgreg]

it's an aquired taste, dammit.


That's what She Said!!

[Boourns]

The food at Glasto is great, though.

I miss Prague. A big pork steak, potatoes, a couple beers, all excellent. $12 including tip.

The best thing I had in London was a bowl of hummus from a hummus bar for around $9, no sides, no drink, no tip.

[boarderwoozel3]

Indian food in London = massive win.

[Boourns]

I wonder what the odds are of r.e.m. playing again.

[shakermaker113]

The best thing I had in London was a bowl of hummus from a hummus bar for around $9, no sides, no drink, no tip.

you clearly never tried beans on toast.

[chiapet]

Boourns, you're nuts. London has excellent food. Not sure what you could have had during your stay to walk away with the opinion that it's all terrible. There's every type of ethnic food you can imagine, and even English food is good if you're choosy about what you get.

For god's sake, I can find something I'd like to eat any day in just one of those Marks & spencer food mini-market places.

Jeff, amazingly the one thing I didn't find is good Indian food in London. Even tried places suggested by Indian coworkers. It was all pretty bland. Salt is not a spice. :/


Edited to say, Boourns, I guess you're simply talking price rather than quality of food. Don't say London has no good food. It just has no cheap food (to us Americans anyway).

[shakermaker113]

again, beans on toast. cheap. tasty. filling. it's a perfect meal for anyone on a budget. hell, get the 1 pound loaf of bread and 39 pence can of beans and make it at your hostel.

[chiapet]

Yea, if you're willing to do some minimal grocery shopping, there is plenty of inexpensive food. We cooked most of our meals the last time I was there and ate really well.

[Boourns]

Boourns, you're nuts. London has excellent food. Not sure what you could have had during your stay to walk away with the opinion that it's all terrible. There's every type of ethnic food you can imagine, and even English food is good if you're choosy about what you get.

For god's sake, I can find something I'd like to eat any day in just one of those Marks & spencer food mini-market places.

Jeff, amazingly the one thing I didn't find is good Indian food in London. Even tried places suggested by Indian coworkers. It was all pretty bland. Salt is not a spice. :/


Edited to say, Boourns, I guess you're simply talking price rather than quality of food. Don't say London has no good food. It just has no cheap food (to us Americans anyway).

Well fine then, everything I tried during seven days there was nasty and expensive, except for the hummus bar and one pub that had decent but not great fish & chips.

When I started running out of money, I was living off of peanut butter.

[sonofhal]

There is this thing called the internet where you can research destinations before travelling, and find out about decent places to eat. Give it a go, Frank.

[sonofhal]

Indian food in London = massive win.

Brick Lane. So much curry choice (and right next to Rough Trade East too!).

[chiapet]

Well, come on, he also said New York doesn't have good food, so he's clearly going out of his way NOT to find anything decent. ;)

[Boourns]

There is this thing called the internet where you can research destinations before travelling, and find out about decent places to eat. Give it a go, Frank.

I always do, actually. I didn't get around to doing this much for London, though, and the places I did find that I wanted to try out I didn't get to, either because they required too many transfers, were no longer in business, closed too early, couldn't find, etc.

[Boourns]

Well, come on, he also said New York doesn't have good food, so he's clearly going out of his way NOT to find anything decent. ;)

That's not what I said at all. I said it's like New York in certain ways but not others, with that being under but. Pay attention, plz. NY is tasty times. Can be epicly expensive, though.

[sonofhal]

I'll have to produce a cheap eats guide for you lot before you come over.

[Boourns]

Please do, would be appreciated.

[chiapet]

I wouldn't turn that down either. Especially on the Indian food front. I've tried every place that's been suggested to me. It wasn't bad food, it was just not as spicy as I'm used to.

[sonofhal]

Any decent curry house will make the food hotter if you ask, but a decent vindaloo should be hot enough to begin with.

[paulo999]

Indian food in London = massive win.

Yep. Tasty big feed. Not massive money.

Chicken Tikka Massala was declared the "true national dish" after it beat everything else in a survey of what Brits order in restaurants.

Nom nom. With two plain naans please, and a pint of lager.

:)

(And another yep: Most places will go as hot as you like.)

[sbessiso]

you clearly never tried beans on toast.

That sounds fucking terrible

[MissingPerson]

Baked beans on buttery toast witha bit of salt and pepper, awesome.

[suprefan]

That sounds fucking terrible

It isnt..

[sbessiso]

baked beans make me yak

[Gribbz]

Yeah, it's actually quite tasty.

[MissingPerson]

Heinz tinned spaghetti hoops are an acceptable substitute.

[suprefan]

baked beans make me yak

I am sure lots of things make you yak, obviously healthy food does.

[MissingPerson]

I'm pretty sure the nutritional value of baked beans is fairly negligible.

[sbessiso]

Heinz tinned spaghetti hoops are an acceptable substitute.

ughhhh youre on the ball today. i absolutely cannot eat canned spaghetti, im literally feeling nauseous just thinking about it

[chiapet]

Same. But there's tons of good food, really, Salah.

[sbessiso]

I never doubted there was. Just no baked beans/canned spaghettios :puke!

hummus ftw!

[MissingPerson]

Yeah, if British-ish takeaway food isn't to your taste, there's Indian food as mentioned, and there are a few pretty awesome Chinese food buffet places too that are reasonable enough. Falafel and Kebabs too, if you need something tasty and aren't too fussy, although nobody in the history of European civilisation has ever eaten a kebab sober.

[shakermaker113]

I wouldn't turn that down either. Especially on the Indian food front. I've tried every place that's been suggested to me. It wasn't bad food, it was just not as spicy as I'm used to.

ok, that makes no sense to me. the indian food you get in california is spicier than the indian food you have found in england? no. senseless.


That sounds fucking terrible

you WILL try this. for the love of me, you will try it.


I never doubted there was. Just no baked beans/canned spaghettios :puke!

there's your problem. american canned spaghettios are truly shitty. truly truly shitty. I mean, canned spaghetti can never be that good in the first place, but somehow america seems to screw it up horribly. heinz canned spaghetti is actually edible.

[boarderwoozel3]

Yeah, if British-ish takeaway food isn't to your taste, there's Indian food as mentioned, and there are a few pretty awesome Chinese food buffet places too that are reasonable enough. Falafel and Kebabs too, if you need something tasty and aren't too fussy, although nobody in the history of European civilisation has ever eaten a kebab sober.

Yes. I had outstanding chinese food in London as well.

Not sure what to say about the bad experiences. Pub curry was definitely hit and miss, more toward the miss. But London is a massive international city, there's good food all over the place.

[chiapet]

ok, that makes no sense to me. the indian food you get in california is spicier than the indian food you have found in england? no. senseless.


That's what I'm saying!

[shakermaker113]

That's what I'm saying!

this requires a taste off. I will not believe it until I taste it.

[emtgreg]

its like there's a party in my mouth, and everyone is coming!!

[boarderwoozel3]

That sounds naughty, especially coming from you. (no offense)

[emtgreg]

None taken friend!!

Although, I am a sweet, innocent butterfly!!

Everyone forgets that :)

[sbessiso]

you WILL try this. for the love of me, you will try it.

Maybe.


there's your problem. american canned spaghettios are truly shitty. truly truly shitty. I mean, canned spaghetti can never be that good in the first place, but somehow america seems to screw it up horribly. heinz canned spaghetti is actually edible.

Hmmm im highly suspicious of this

[ShyGuy75]

'When do you think they'll be announced?
I can't give you a date yet, but probably early next year. We'd like to let people know. The great thing about next year is that there's a lot of bands who've been a big part of the Festival who really want to get involved and not necessarily in the slot that they would normally have. A lot of them are much bigger than where they're going to be playing. But there are some real Glastonbury heritage bands that mean a lot to us and mean a lot to the audience. I think people will be really, really excited about the line-up.'



40th year = our generations woodstock?

[shakermaker113]

friday is early next year!

[Boourns]

Haha, that it is.

[Boourns]

ki7PMZycYMo

[suprefan]

Somebody needs to make a coachella one like this...

[Boourns]

Does Win Butler still have the Hitler hairdo?

[suprefan]

Possibly.

[MissingPerson]

I hope he's got pigtails now. Just to fuck with people.

[Boourns]

http://www.efestivals.co.uk/news/10/100104a.shtml

-third headliner is still being sorted out (for e's & wizz?)
-Dizzee Rascal is playing
-Chemical Brothers live!
-maybe Will Young, too
-no Green Day
-bands that could normally close the Pyramid stage may be opening it
-secret sets

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b00c000j/console

It starts at around 40:00

[Boourns]

Okay, so no stones, no Bowie, no pulp, no pearl jam, and no radiohead. No idea who the third headliner will be, even though more possibilities keep getting debunked.

[ShyGuy75]

source on no radiohead? not saying it isn't true, i just haven't seen it.

the headliners don't matter to me, but i think coldplay is dialed in.

[Boourns]

Primavera organizers and efests say they have no plans to play live at all this year.

[sonofhal]

I heard Fleetwood Mac, but what do I know.

[sbessiso]

I heard Fleetwood Mac, but what do I know.

Would that really be a headliner though? (i like FM btw)

[rideincircles]

I vote for Daft Punk and a reunited Oasis reunion.

[rideincircles]

and Portishead

[shakermaker113]

I vote for Daft Punk and a reunited Oasis reunion.

hahaha. shortest breakup ever.

[Boourns]

In case anyone didn't believe NME, Emily Eavis confirms no Stones at Glasto:
http://twitter.com/emilyeavis/status/7449086219

[sbessiso]

Interesting.

[PJandBompton]

This could possibly end up being one of the most overhyped lineups ever...

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

This could possibly end up being one of the most overhyped lineups ever...

this.

[shakermaker113]

eh. who do we have to blame?

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

no one really. its the same crap the board does for Coachella. tho expectations for this was QUITE lofty.

[shakermaker113]

I've said it before, but I hope the lineup isn't too stacked. I want to be free to roam and discover whatever may be happening at any moment.

[Boourns]

It is usually ridiculously stacked at night but not as much during the day.

[rideincircles]

I have got a good list of supplies and tickets that need to be paid for or bought now. I crossed off wellies yesterday and got these.
Neoprene waterproof hunting boots, really comfy. $35 Academy clearance.
http://web3.twitpic.com/img/56499770-dfac125c0ef68c1f42cf1a4907870ad4.4b4adccb-full.jpg

[sbessiso]

I have got a good list of supplies and tickets that need to be paid for or bought now. I crossed off wellies yesterday and got these.
Neoprene waterproof hunting boots, really comfy. $35 Academy clearance.
http://web3.twitpic.com/img/56499770-dfac125c0ef68c1f42cf1a4907870ad4.4b4adccb-full.jpg

where can I get some wellies?


eh. who do we have to blame?

havent the people that run the festival been saying over and over and over and over again how intensely awesome the lineup will be?

[sonofhal]

Boots that lace up are much more likely to stay on your feet than wellies, if things get muddy (which they normally do).

[sbessiso]

ah right! i have never in my life purchased a pair of boots (sexy boots). any suggestions on brands and whatnot?

[faxman75]

eh. who do we have to blame?

The Eavis'? They started the hype before the 2009 festival even took place talking about getting bands from every single year and having so many huge bands many would play smaller stages. Once that was said the flood gates were open. You certainly don't hear Coachella do this sort of hype building.



"It's our first 40th anniversary next year, we're talking to lots of bands at the moment about that, and we want to have a band from every year on the Pyramid stage over the weekend."

"And I think we'll try and make a lot of the biggest performances on some of the tinier stages, so we're going to do something really special for our 40th anniversary."


I'm starting to consider going to this festival. I'll probably decide in the next couple of weeks.

[sonofhal]

ah right! i have never in my life purchased a pair of boots (sexy boots). any suggestions on brands and whatnot?

Oldies but goldies.

http://www.drmartens.com/ProductList.asp?Cat=story&Story=1914mens&type=All

[shakermaker113]

http://www.drmartens.com/ProductList.asp?Cat=story&Story=1914mens&type=All

as seen in band hero!

[Boourns]

The Eavis'? They started the hype before the 2009 festival even took place talking about getting bands from every single year and having so many huge bands many would play smaller stages. Once that was said the flood gates were open. You certainly don't hear Coachella do this sort of hype building.





I'm starting to consider going to this festival. I'll probably decide in the next couple of weeks.

The "band from every year" isn't that big of a deal, considering how many bands have played. Doesn't mean a headliner from every year and there's an infinite pool of obscurities.

[faxman75]

The "band from every year" isn't that big of a deal, considering how many bands have played. Doesn't mean a headliner from every year and there's an infinite pool of obscurities.

Fair enough but that ignores the second part of what she said completely.


"And I think we'll try and make a lot of the biggest performances on some of the tinier stages, so we're going to do something really special for our 40th anniversary."

I'm just saying the hype machine was started by them with their "really special" and big peformances on tiny stages comments.

If we are speculating why expectations are so high it's not like the promoters have downplayed the gig is all i'm saying.

[Boourns]

Plus a headliner-caliber act is apparently opening a day rather than closing.

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

ah I see now. I imagine if Paul T was talking out of his ass like this then the board would be much worse then it is now.

[Boourns]

But in all honesty, the lineup at Glasto matters far less than it does at all other festivals.

[faxman75]

I know I keep hearing this but if I don't go for the music, tell me all the great things i'm going for to make up for the fact that i'm taking a shit in a hole in the ground? Also, what other options do I have other than taking a shit in a hole in the ground? Are there porta potties worth going into at all in the fest or does everyone just shit in the ground? This has really become a sticking point for me. If the lineup means nothing and music is why I tend to go to these fests, what makes it worth shitting in the ground?

Any stories of people slipping into the shitholes?

[ShyGuy75]

for you, fauxy, nothing will. as previously stated, shitting in the ground, walking up and down 900 acres of hills covered with mud and piss, and having it take up to an hour to go from stage to stage will frustrate you to the point of you wishing you had spent your money on something more your speed.

[TommyboyUNM]

After reading that description, I really don't know what the appeal is. I think Fax has a point. If you're traveling all that way for a music festival, it's pretty important to want to see the music. Is it something to do just to say you did?

[Gribbz]

Does it really take an hour to get from one stage to another?

[Boourns]

I know I keep hearing this but if I don't go for the music, tell me all the great things i'm going for to make up for the fact that i'm taking a shit in a hole in the ground? Also, what other options do I have other than taking a shit in a hole in the ground? Are there porta potties worth going into at all in the fest or does everyone just shit in the ground? This has really become a sticking point for me. If the lineup means nothing and music is why I tend to go to these fests, what makes it worth shitting in the ground?

Any stories of people slipping into the shitholes?

The lineup will never mean nothing; there's always something for everyone. Sometimes it's better than other years, of course. As for all the non-musical aspects, I already did in that tl;dr thread.

In addition to the nasty portapotties and longdrops, there are actual toilets across from the Pyramid stage, but I didn't find out about them until after the fact. Comfortable crappers actually does a good job of keeping their facilities clean. I don't shit in a portapotty at Coachella anymore, either.

[ShyGuy75]

After reading that description, I really don't know what the appeal is. I think Fax has a point. If you're traveling all that way for a music festival, it's pretty important to want to see the music. Is it something to do just to say you did?


i agree that he has a point and yes, it is simply something to do just to say you did it.

[TickleMeElmo]

Who's actually still in for the group? Faxy, you out? If the group is kinda falling apart then I might skip out on this for SXSW instead. I'm kinda in the same boat as you Fax about my intentions for this trip. I really wanna go some year but maybe it should be when I can convince friends to come with instead of trying this by myself.

Money has also gotten much tighter for me in the past month also due to a death in the family and pulling off Glastonbury is gonna be tough.

[faxman75]

I'm not out or in. Still deciding. There are many in this thread who are all still in though.

Boourns, do you have a link to your review? I can't seem to locate it again and all I remember is the first two days of misery you had. I remember things got better but I don't recall any of the greatness so this would be very helpful.

[Boourns]

I'm definitely in. Sabeezy seems to have come back around and sure greg and chia are in.

[Boourns]

I'm not out or in. Still deciding. There are many in this thread who are all still in though.

Boourns, do you have a link to your review? I can't seem to locate it again and all I remember is the first two days of misery you had. I remember things got better but I don't recall any of the greatness so this would be very helpful.

All in one piece:
http://simplyfussfree.blogspot.com/2009/11/glastonbury-2009-review-from-outsider.html

[faxman75]

Thanks Frank. Is Edward still in?

If you have a link to your post here on this board that would work better because apparently blog spot is also blocked from my work pc.

[Boourns]

I can definitely understand wanting the best lineup possible considering the expense involved with attending (mainly the overpriced airfare) and it'd be perfect to kill two birds with one stone (get unforgettable performances from favourite acts and an experience of a lifetime during the same weekend), but the trick is the lineup isn't revealed until it's too late to attend solely for the lineup. It's a gamble. I guess the question is, which would hurt more: going and the lineup doesn't turn out to be your favorite or not going and it turns out to be amazing? Also, most people attend multiple years regardless of who is playing.

Loved last year's lineup (Blur, Neil Young, Bat for Lashes, Metric, multiple gigs from Emmy the Great!) but it was far from perfect (too many conflicts, Springsteen not my first choice of a headliner, lots of downtime) but it worked out well because I needed time to explore and recharge, anyway.

[TickleMeElmo]

This isn't turning into a lineup issue for me since I've loved every lineup they've had each year. It's more of an unexpected events/sudden opportunity issue now. I've lost a lot of money recently and now have friends who want me to go to SXSW with them and I can't afford to do both AND have Coachella in between and SXSW will be the cheaper of the two for me. Plus I know for sure a friend of mine can go with me to Glastonbury next year but not this year so I might wait for 2011. I'm just gonna have to wait and see how the next few weeks turn out.

I'd really be super bummed if I can't make it with you guys this year since this year is shaping up to be a fantastic year and THE year to go if any. On a personal note, it was my father who convinced me to go in the first place and since he passed two months ago I kinda feel like I have to live up to my word but shit just isn't working out.

[sbessiso]

Oldies but goldies.

http://www.drmartens.com/ProductList.asp?Cat=story&Story=1914mens&type=All

.....

seriously?


I'm definitely in. Sabeezy seems to have come back around and sure greg and chia are in.

I wish I could shake away my fear and crippling lack of self-confidence

[chiapet]

I'm still in though I haven't paid the rest of my ticket deposit. I probably won't do that until mid-Feb.

sonofhal, I am planning on bringing wellies and lace-up boots (I almost always wear lace-up boots anyway). The lace-ups never stay completely dry if I'm having to walk through puddles, so I plan on wearing wellies if it's flooded and other boots if it's not.

Salah, docs are great for boots. Red Wing are too -- most of their styles are overly butch construction worker type stuff but some of the 'logger' lines are good, for example:

http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1135
http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1149

Red wings used to be my "walking to class through knee-high snow" boots in college. Not that they're really waterproof.

My favorite boots are fluevog but there is no store near you and they're spendy any how.

[chiapet]

My glastonbury boots? Maybe

http://www.fluevog.com/code/images/colour/0000002583/composite.jpg