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PlayaDelWes
07-28-2009, 08:54 AM
(for me at least)

So I thought I’d give NPR a try for 6 months. I’m so over it. Here’s why NPR sucks:

1. They don’t have commercials, but they waste 20 minutes per hour either requesting donations or explaining (in verbose detail) who each segment is brought to you by. Commercials are so much more interesting.

2. Each segment is accompanied by additional overhead through a lengthy tag-line and description of what the segment is about. Segments don’t need taglines, nor do they need a 45 second introduction.

3. Of the remaining time that’s left, half the stories are worthless. Who wants to hear about Crows, Leaf Collectors, or Mom Bloggers?

4. The liberal tone gets old real quick. “This week President Obama invited a police officer and professor over for a beer. Did you know that George Washington and Abe Lincoln also drank beers in the White House? This certainly shows what type of president we’re dealing with here”

5. The weekend crap sucks “Wait Wait…Don’t Tell me” may just be the lamest thing to ever come out of a radio. Same with those “comedy” shows.

Sorry NPR. I tried, I really did. But your 6 months is up.

BlackSwan
07-28-2009, 08:56 AM
Delete.

marooko
07-28-2009, 09:04 AM
I tried NPR. It lasted about 5 minutes. NPR is some of the worst radio I've ever heard. I LOVE RADIO!!!!!! The people seem to have a major lack of personality, love of life and interest in what they're talking about. Really, I've tried to listen a couple of times. The subject matter isn't really an issue for me, it's the delivery. The show host and guests just seem to have no life about them.

chairmenmeow47
07-28-2009, 09:06 AM
sounds like you've been listening to a lot of "all things considered", i don't really dig that show myself. too much fluff like the boring "mom bloggers" piece from last night. i'm not really into fresh air unless they are interviewing someone i really love either. and that splendid table lady annoys the pants off me.

i do like marketplace, bbc world news and the diane rehm show. also on the weekends, wait wait don't tell me & whadayaknow are fun, along with car talk and even a prarie home companion. here in arizona, on sundays we have those low down blues which is awesome. talk of the nation is pretty good, especially science fridays. (and roo, these shows all have different hosts and are produced nationwide, so you won't get the same thing with every show).

i guess i'm saying, i love npr. sorry you couldn't find anything worth listening to, but if you have only been listening on your way home from work to "all things considered", at least try a few podcasts of these shows. for example, there's not much that's liberal about marketplace. that's probably the best show they have in my opinion, diane rhem is a close second, but it's really hard for me to take the slow pace of her voice (which i know is due to medical issues, sorry, i'm going to hell i guess).

Hannahrain
07-28-2009, 09:08 AM
Try PRI.

faxman75
07-28-2009, 09:10 AM
Fresh Air with Terry Gross is reason enough to claim NPR has greatness IMO. I wish I listened to that show more. Time to add a podcast.

higgybaby23
07-28-2009, 09:21 AM
Science Friday with Ira Flatow is pretty keen.

marooko
07-28-2009, 09:23 AM
Delete.

Censor.

PotVsKtl
07-28-2009, 09:39 AM
There's a total of 3 of you idiots on these boards, go join some other bullshit asshole internet location if you want to talk about how the big bad liberals are getting on your short hairs.

canexplain
07-28-2009, 09:42 AM
i listen to NPR when i am driving cross country and get tired of my own music and just need a break from tunes .... cr****

HunterGather
07-28-2009, 09:52 AM
Isn't "This American Life" on NPR?
I like that show.
But when I do listen to it, i get the free podcast thing.

chairmenmeow47
07-28-2009, 09:54 AM
it is on NPR, but it's produced by PRI.

PlayaDelWes
07-28-2009, 10:01 AM
I would agree that marketplace, bbc world news, and car talk are all interesting.

Marooko, you are right. The delivery is terrible. Even worse for me is all the time spent not on content. Like I said earlier, I feel like there is more filler on NPR than there are commercials on other stations. Perhaps podcasts are the way to go. Just need to filter out all the crappy stuff.

And Ivy, you can seriously listen to "wait wait don't tell me" for more than a minute?

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:02 AM
There's a total of 3 of you idiots on these boards, go join some other bullshit asshole internet location if you want to talk about how the big bad liberals are getting on your short hairs.

go smoke a "medicinal" joint and relax.

caco0283
07-28-2009, 10:11 AM
go smoke a "medicinal" joint and relax.

Why don't you STFU and do what he says??

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:13 AM
go wear those UFO's and try and sex up some underage girl at a party. dirt bag.

chairmenmeow47
07-28-2009, 10:16 AM
i think wait wait don't tell me is funny. i also listen to whadyaknow and i have trouble distinguishing the two so what i'm about to say could be about one or the other. they get some interesting guests and get them to be kinda funny by quizzing them about shit they don't know anything about (the "not my job" segment or whatever), i generally like the part where they have to guess which news story is real and i also like the piano interludes. not to mention all the memos they read are pretty funny too. i dunno, it's dorky humour, but i like it.

while you may not enjoy the content, "mommy bloggers" and shit like that is still content and does not equal a commercial. filler fluff pieces are something entirely different from a commercial.

JewFace
07-28-2009, 10:16 AM
I love NPR. It's a beacon of good taste, cultural exploration, thoughtful journalism and reasoned discourse in an FM world that consists almost entirely of Jack FM and all that lovely Tejano crap with the accordion and the songs about the man who did her wrong, etc.

Sure, occassionally, they pick a story that only readers of Reader's Digest Large Print Edition could find compelling and, yes, the pledge breaks are annoying. Would you rather have a system like the BBC in Britain in which every person is required to pay for the service whether or not they watch or listen to BBC programming?

I think Wait Wait Don't Tell Me (and it's British counterpart the name of which I can't recall right now) is frequently hilarious. I'll give you this, Whad'Ya Know? with Michael Feldman (produced by PRI) is a torturous affair. That is one NPR program I cannot and will not stand. I'd rather circle through the FM dial for 2 hours than listen to the incredibly dull Feldman.

anti-square
07-28-2009, 10:16 AM
NPR is the only radio station I can tolerate in my car. I'll take this programming with "bad delivery" over the same 10 shitty "hits" that rotate on the rest of the stations.

chairmenmeow47
07-28-2009, 10:19 AM
and some people have better delivery than others. for example, kai risdal on marketplace has great delivery. terry gross has a nice voice too. overall though, i agree it is a slower pace, but i like that. i don't want to feel rushed through a bunch of headlines, i want to hear stories, even if it's something i wouldn't normally care about (mommy bloggers). plus, it's better than feeling like i'm CONSTANTLY BEING YELLED AT like other radio announcers.

i can't stand that lady who reports from france though, she always sounds pissed off even if it's a positive story. and i don't like melissa block much, my dad HATES her cause she reads everything in such a cutesy fashion, it makes the serious stuff seem less serious.

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:20 AM
do they stream online?

chairmenmeow47
07-28-2009, 10:21 AM
www.npr.org

gaypalmsprings
07-28-2009, 10:22 AM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/bigstudlysherm/lol_wut_russian_pear.jpg?t=1248805306

zenidogx
07-28-2009, 10:23 AM
i loved "This I Believe"

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:24 AM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/bigstudlysherm/lol_wut_russian_pear.jpg?t=1248805306

:).



www.npr.org

thank you. im gonna give it a try again when i get back from lunch.

dorkfish
07-28-2009, 10:28 AM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b163/bigstudlysherm/lol_wut_russian_pear.jpg?t=1248805306
Always has annoyed me because it doesn't say "LOL WUT", but rather "LOL SHUUT".

dorkfish
07-28-2009, 10:29 AM
PRI and NPR are great:
Marketplace
Fresh Air
Science Friday
This American Life
Radiolab (best show ever)
Wait Wait Don't Tell Me
All Songs Considered
All Things Considered

Hannahrain
07-28-2009, 10:30 AM
I bet we could convince Jad and Robert to make "(Best Show Ever)" the tagline if our emails were convincing enough.

djandrews25
07-28-2009, 10:32 AM
There's a total of 3 of you idiots on these boards, go join some other bullshit asshole internet location if you want to talk about how the big bad liberals are getting on your short hairs.

I see a pattern here, someone says anything that isnt pro-liberal, pot gets his panties in a bunch.

Hannahrain
07-28-2009, 10:32 AM
You are very astute. Be proud. This is your big day!

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:34 AM
whats that mean?

Hannahrain
07-28-2009, 10:36 AM
It was a veiled offer. I'm trying to sell drugs.

PlayaDelWes
07-28-2009, 10:36 AM
I agree that other radio stations are crap and that's why I gave NPR a chance in the first place. Sports talk can get old (I'll reassess once football season starts), other news stations are repetitive and their stories get stale (in a headline news sort of way), and with recent consolidation, we all agree there are few bright spots among music stations.

Everyone with Satellite radio raves about it, but it seems pretty repetitive too. What do you guys think of satellite? Or when in your car do you strictly listen to ipod / cds? Any recommendations on other non-NPR podcasts?

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:39 AM
It was a veiled offer. I'm trying to sell drugs.

what kind?

djandrews25
07-28-2009, 10:39 AM
www.slacker.com not exactly what you're looking for, but a good radio program that is free. Just type in what band you want to hear, and it plays that and similar stuff.

SoulDischarge
07-28-2009, 10:40 AM
The only radio I ever listen to is internet radio, and 90% of the time it's something off East Village Radio. I'm not much into talk radio, so I don't know much about that. I would also appreciate recommendations for good radio stations/shows/podcasts.

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:41 AM
di.fm

marooko
07-28-2009, 10:47 AM
Renee and Steve are speaking right now. I wanna stab my ears when she speaks. Steve seems to have some life about him. Renee sounds like one of the people on the street that companies get to give a "real life testimonial". Got it! Sounds like a recorded interview, but she's asking the questions live. hahaha. i love it.

JewFace
07-28-2009, 11:40 AM
Is Phil Hendrie still on the air? Greatest radio satirist ever. Just brilliant.

amyzzz
07-28-2009, 11:41 AM
sounds like you've been listening to a lot of "all things considered", i don't really dig that show myself. too much fluff like the boring "mom bloggers" piece from last night. i'm not really into fresh air unless they are interviewing someone i really love either. and that splendid table lady annoys the pants off me.

i do like marketplace, bbc world news and the diane rehm show. also on the weekends, wait wait don't tell me & whadayaknow are fun, along with car talk and even a prarie home companion. here in arizona, on sundays we have those low down blues which is awesome. talk of the nation is pretty good, especially science fridays. (and roo, these shows all have different hosts and are produced nationwide, so you won't get the same thing with every show).

i guess i'm saying, i love npr. sorry you couldn't find anything worth listening to, but if you have only been listening on your way home from work to "all things considered", at least try a few podcasts of these shows. for example, there's not much that's liberal about marketplace. that's probably the best show they have in my opinion, diane rhem is a close second, but it's really hard for me to take the slow pace of her voice (which i know is due to medical issues, sorry, i'm going to hell i guess).
QF fuckin T. I pretty much agree with everything on here, except I like the weekly news stuff too (all things considered or whatever) if I happen to be in the car. Marketplace is AWESOME too. I don't really understand finance and economy stuff, but they help clarify some things for me in an entertaining way. I like that Ky Risdale guy (sp?).

MissingPerson
07-28-2009, 12:02 PM
Only know NPR from some of their band recordings, which are alright. They do a little too much "You're listening to NPR!" throughout, but I've heard worse.

faxman75
07-29-2009, 07:08 AM
Everyone with Satellite radio raves about it, but it seems pretty repetitive too. What do you guys think of satellite? Or when in your car do you strictly listen to ipod / cds? Any recommendations on other non-NPR podcasts?

Why does satellite radio seem repetitive? You have over 100 genre specific stations then another shit load of news, sports and entertainment channels.

Regular radio shouldn't even be in the same category. It's no comparison. I listen to my ipod 90% of the time because I like to control what i'm hearing but when I want variety I go to satellite. Loads of options and the music is commercial free with almost every genre represented.

faxman75
07-29-2009, 07:14 AM
The only radio I ever listen to is internet radio, and 90% of the time it's something off East Village Radio. I'm not much into talk radio, so I don't know much about that. I would also appreciate recommendations for good radio stations/shows/podcasts.

I swear by this podcast. It's a weekly Rock n' Roll talk show that covers everything from indie to pop with a weekly guest. Almost always a band though they did have Anthony Bourdain on recently.

This weeks show is an album dissection of Purple Rain (it's the 25th anniversary) and a review of Dead Weather. Two weeks ago Annie Clark aka St. Vincent was in the studio.

http://www.soundopinions.org/audio.html


As far as internet radio goes I swear by
www.woxy.com

An example of what they play, at this exact moment the last five songs

The Big Pink - Velvet
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Bellbottoms
The Hold Steady - Sequestered in Memphis
The Rapture - Sister Saviour (single ..
Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks


I pretty much don't need anything else, both are gold to me.

canexplain
07-29-2009, 07:32 AM
on radio in general, i listen to about 3 hours of talk radio a day driving to and from work and lunch ... i go between the left and the right wing stations to see two different points of view ... its surreal in the sense one station will say one thing, then the other station will say the exact opposite and they both say it like it was gosipel and the truth ... i esp like right wing because i know they are all liers and it gets my blood going :) cr****

marooko
07-29-2009, 07:34 AM
whats up with CBS? do you think they are making a good move?

downingthief
07-29-2009, 07:47 AM
sounds like you've been listening to a lot of "all things considered", i don't really dig that show myself. too much fluff like the boring "mom bloggers" piece from last night. i'm not really into fresh air unless they are interviewing someone i really love either. and that splendid table lady annoys the pants off me.

i do like marketplace, bbc world news and the diane rehm show. also on the weekends, wait wait don't tell me & whadayaknow are fun, along with car talk and even a prarie home companion. here in arizona, on sundays we have those low down blues which is awesome. talk of the nation is pretty good, especially science fridays. (and roo, these shows all have different hosts and are produced nationwide, so you won't get the same thing with every show).

i guess i'm saying, i love npr. sorry you couldn't find anything worth listening to, but if you have only been listening on your way home from work to "all things considered", at least try a few podcasts of these shows. for example, there's not much that's liberal about marketplace. that's probably the best show they have in my opinion, diane rhem is a close second, but it's really hard for me to take the slow pace of her voice (which i know is due to medical issues, sorry, i'm going to hell i guess).

Yes. :)

SoulDischarge
07-29-2009, 07:56 AM
I swear by this podcast. It's a weekly Rock n' Roll talk show that covers everything from indie to pop with a weekly guest. Almost always a band though they did have Anthony Bourdain on recently.

This weeks show is an album dissection of Purple Rain (it's the 25th anniversary) and a review of Dead Weather. Two weeks ago Annie Clark aka St. Vincent was in the studio.

http://www.soundopinions.org/audio.html


As far as internet radio goes I swear by
www.woxy.com

An example of what they play, at this exact moment the last five songs

The Big Pink - Velvet
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Bellbottoms
The Hold Steady - Sequestered in Memphis
The Rapture - Sister Saviour (single ..
Grizzly Bear - Two Weeks


I pretty much don't need anything else, both are gold to me.

Thanks. I'll check them out.

M Sparks
07-29-2009, 09:04 AM
I don't want to meet anyone who doesn't like This American Life.

The Car Talk guys are so annoying, but I still always listen. I don't know why. Avoid their TV show at all costs though...maybe the worst thing I've ever seen on PBS.

Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is fun, but I can see why someone wouldn't like it...there's not much to it. I mainly enjoy the "Not My Job" section.

A Prairie Home Companion is one of those things that seems dull on the surface, but it's absolutely hilarious once you get used to it. I do get tired of the down-home-aw-shucks musical guests, but just as often, they have someone really great. I just try to tune out the music if it's too hicksville, and wait for the funny bits. I can't figure out how Altman screwed up that movie so bad. He should have been eating more ketchup.

Science Fridays rules, and Talk Of The Nation in general is usually pretty good. Diane Reams has some great guests and topics, but her voice is a chore to listen to.

What happened to The Motley Fool? Our local station took it off, does it still exist? That was a great show.

I don't believe Terry Gross is the great interviewer people claim she is, but she gets such interesting guests, I don't care. Or maybe she really IS so great that she manages to make EVERYONE interesting while appearing to not really do anything.

Morning Edition is fine, but you can't listen for more than 20 minutes or so.

Our station has BBC World on all night, which I appreciate as someone who is often up very early. You can get more real news from the BBC in 10 minutes than you can watching CNN all day.

I guess that's all I listen to...mainly weekends. We don't get Whadayaknow on our NPR station, but I interviewed the host once and I got the impression it was a cross between WWDTM and PHC.

NPR isn't perfect, but it's still better than most options. Commercial radio is worthless, and XM is becoming a commercial radio clone since the Sirius takeover. I listen to NPR and Ron & Fez...that's about it.

PotVsKtl
07-29-2009, 09:06 AM
This American Life is a bunch of bullshit.

M Sparks
07-29-2009, 09:21 AM
Why does satellite radio seem repetitive? You have over 100 genre specific stations then another shit load of news, sports and entertainment channels.

It used to be great. XM was run by people who knew about the commercial radio business and wanted to change it. Sirius was run by people who just wanted to charge people for the exact same thing that used to be free so they didn't have to worry about ad sales. When Sirius took over XM, they added DJs yammering, and cut the playlists by about 80%. They've also removed several of the more unusual formats entirely.

As soon as they fire Ron & Fez...which they will, because they assume Howard Stern appeals to everyone...I'm gone.

The ex-program director for XM Lucy signed off the channel by saying "To learn more about Slacker Radio, visit your local library!"

faxman75
07-29-2009, 10:00 AM
All of that is fine but who the fuck is Ron and Fez? They are what keeps you going? I hear a huge variety on satellite that regular radio doesn't even come close to competing with. These playlists you talk about are light years beyond what you will find in regular radio. The rock genre specifically is full of options.

Sirus' plan was not to charge people for what was already free. That's pretty silly. maybe you should take a look at their channel lineup and what's included. You won't hear half of that stuff on regular radio.

Do you get a decent commercial free 24/7 electronic station on the FM dial? How abot a commercial free 24/7 indi channel? An entire channel for Garage Rock? This doesn't even go into the pop, jazz, country or hip hop stations. You have to see how ridiculous your comment is about it being the exact same thing without commercials. Speaking of which XM the provider that seems to have had more of the content you enjoyed actually had COMMERCIAL music channels as well. The fact is there really is no comparing satellite with commercial radio when it comes to variety.

I understand missing some of the XM stations. I was a big fan of Ethel but i'm hardly running back to commercial radio. As it is I listen to my ipod mostly but turning on FM again will never happen.

You get 20 rock stations and they aren't playing the same songs every hour or anything close to the repetedivness of regular radio. The changes they have made are minor and mostly due to consolidation of duplicate channels because of the merger.

I look at this channel listing and if I wasn't a subsriber I would wonder why the fuck I still listened to regular radio.

http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=ChannelLineup&cid=1218563499691&pid=SIR_AUD_EVT&catid=all

dorkfish
07-29-2009, 11:05 AM
Ron and Fez 11-3 (EST) XM 202, Sirius 197 buddies

edit: And yeah, I'll likely cancel the moment they get dropped, as well.

Aurgasm
07-29-2009, 11:29 AM
I tend to like stations that carry NPR programming because they ALSO carry Public Radio International and BBC Worldservice.

M Sparks
07-29-2009, 12:22 PM
i'm hardly running back to commercial radio.

I never listened to commercial radio to begin with...or rather, I hadn't in 15 years or so. I'm just saying, XM made me start listening to radio again...period. But I'm not compelled by the music stations anymore. Sure there are still a lot of different formats, but the playlists are tiny now compared to the old days. And that goddammned inane DJ bullshit!

Look at how they used to operate. XM had very few DJs, and the ones they had were usually the program directors or otherwise knowledgeable people who had something to say about the music...not chatter. Sirius snapped up every has-been DJ (and VJ) they could find. Their website was full of familiar names. They would pay almost anyone a million dollars to put their name on a station, regardless if they even had experience in radio.

Which was fine. Some people LIKE commercial radio aside from the commercials. They like hearing the same 100 songs and listening to what Richard Blade had for lunch. XM and Sirius were two different products that appealed to different people. I am no longer getting the product that I picked, I am getting the one I rejected.

Of course it's still better than commercial radio. Almost anything is. That doesn't mean it's worth (to me) what they want to charge for it. (Especially since they've raised the rates AND they are adding a copyright fee.)

Courtney
07-29-2009, 01:01 PM
I love NPR, and especially This American Life, All Songs Considered, Marketplace and On The Media. Pretty much the only thing I don't love on NPR is Car Talk. Seriously, who listens to that program? It's horrible.

samiksha
07-29-2009, 02:06 PM
i don't think it's horrible. for a show consisting of a couple of old dudes talking about cars, it's pretty good. it's just not for me.

dorkfish
07-29-2009, 02:10 PM
Courtney just hates that she never figures out the teasers.

amyzzz
07-29-2009, 02:12 PM
I think Car Talk is funny, but I don't generally listen to it because I have no interest in cars.

PotVsKtl
07-29-2009, 02:31 PM
Good story Amy.

marooko
07-29-2009, 02:48 PM
girlfriend. thats it!!

jimmycrackcorn
07-29-2009, 07:52 PM
NPR>all other radio