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summerkid
07-22-2009, 02:37 AM
Not playing
Bat for Lashes
Gossip
Spacemen 3

Can't play due to tour schedule:
Shout Out Louds
BRMC
The Prodigy

Doubtful due to tour schedule:
Iggy Pop & the Stooges

Not playing anywhere:
Radiohead Primavera reps said they do not plan to play live)
David Bowie

Conflicting reports:
Arcade Fire (billboard says spring, considering festivals, NME says second half of 2010 and no gigs booked)

TickleMeElmo
07-22-2009, 02:53 AM
Michael Jackson

ttsmasher
07-22-2009, 02:56 AM
Michael Jackson

Too soon, bro. 3:

dorkfish
07-22-2009, 03:06 AM
Gang Starr's on that list also. They're not even together. I'm calling bravo sierra on that list. There's too many weird people listed for them to get together in Zimbabwe.

NicoDread
07-22-2009, 03:54 AM
Yeah, I couldn't find any other info on that festival

zenidogx
07-22-2009, 04:34 AM
okay early i know but this is where we will keep tabs on people who will not be playing coachella whether it be because said band is on a hiatus or because they are booked elsewhere during Coachella. Now to start most likely these guys won't be playing.

April 19 Zimrock festival in Zimbabwe
Andre 3000 (so count Outkast out)
Kanye West
Lupe Fiasco
Common
Damian Marley
Wyclef Jean
NAS
Erykah Badu
Mos Def
Stephen Marley
Dead Prez
Lauryn Hill
MIA
etc i just listed the ones that seemed like they could play coachella.

http://eventful.com/events/zimrocks-2010-/E0-001-015104036-1
for more. I guess this was supposed to happen last year but got pushed back a year that's why the lineup is out already so who knows if this will stick but if it does you can count out some pretty big hip hop names.

YES! one small victory for Coachella-kind.

sonofhal
07-22-2009, 04:51 AM
I can't see anyone actually playing a festival in Zimbabwe.

dorkfish
07-22-2009, 05:51 AM
Zimrocks isn't real. The guy claims that the exact same group of artists played in 2009, as well. It seems more of a wish list for his imaginary festival than anything else.

captncrzy
07-22-2009, 07:26 AM
Bowie.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
07-22-2009, 07:26 AM
I can't see anyone actually playing a festival in Zimbabwe.

80% unemployment and 100,000% inflation...yeah I find it hard to believe too.

EDIT: Actually now they have deflation. WTF


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5juluIOpzq4zuD-E_gx2a7ubzZTvg

Zimbabwe inflation rises in June
(AFP) – 2 days ago

HARARE — Prices in Zimbabwe rose in June, ending four months of deflation that followed the scrapping of the local currency, the government said Monday.

After a decade of hyperinflation that soared into multiples of billions, Zimbabwe's government abandoned its currency in January.

The government now calculates inflation based on US dollar prices, which have been falling all year.

In June, the monthly inflation rate registered at 0.6 percent, against -1.0 percent in May.

Food prices, however, remained deflationary, with food and non-alcoholic beverages at -1.26 percent, against -0.84 percent in May, the Central Statistics Office said.

Non-food inflation was at 1.45 percent, compared with -1.05 percent for May.

Since trading in foreign currency was allowed, Zimbabwe's once-deserted shops are again fully stocked with food.

But even with food prices falling, few people can afford to buy food in a country where the unemployment rate is estimated at 94 percent.

Once a regional breadbasket, Zimbabwe's economy has shrunk more than 40 percent over the past three years.

The unity government formed in February between long-ruling President Robert Mugabe and his one-time rival Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai is trying to convince donors to give 8.5 billion dollars to revive the economy and the civil service.

Last week Finance Minister Tendai Biti predicted that the country's economy will grow by 3.7 percent this year and ruled out a return of the Zimbabwe dollar.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
07-22-2009, 07:32 AM
more useless facts about the country...no way in hell is there going to be a festival here.

http://www.cato.org/zimbabwe


Zimbabwe
Latest update: February 9, 2009

R.I.P. Zimbabwe Dollar
by

Steve H. Hanke*
Professor of Applied Economics
The Johns Hopkins University
and
Senior Fellow
The Cato Institute

As I wrote on 25 June 2008, “Zimbabwe is in the late stages of a classic hyperinflation. … Inflation is galloping ahead as the supply of Zimbabwe dollars surges and the demand for them shrinks. Eventually, the currency will totally collapse as people simply refuse to accept it.” In recent months, facts on the ground have validated this prognostication. The Zimbabwe dollar is dead.

Last year, I developed a hyperinflation index for Zimbabwe. The index began on 5 January 2007, a month before Zimbabwe entered the hyperinflation zone. Due to a lack of reliable data, I stopped reporting the index on 14 November 2008. This index was based on non-cash Zimbabwe dollar transactions. These had accounted for the bulk of transactions in Zimbabwe. By the end of November, however, there were virtually no non-cash Zimbabwe transactions taking place and the Zimbabwe Stock Exchange had stopped trading. The non-cash Zimbabwe dollar is, therefore, dead.

Ashes are all that is left of the Zimbabwe dollar — a remnant of paper money. During Zimbabwe’s hyperinflation, foreign currencies replaced the Zimbabwe dollar in a rapid and spontaneous manner. This “dollarization” process was legalized in late January 2009. Even though the Zimbabwe paper money remnant circulates alongside foreign currencies, its real value is tiny, its use is limited, and its value against the U.S. dollar is cut in half every two days.

Zimbabwe failed to break Hungary’s 1946 world record for hyperinflation. That said, Zimbabwe did race past Yugoslavia in October 2008. In consequence, Zimbabwe can now lay claim to second place in the world hyperinflation record books.

Highest Monthly Inflation Rates in History Country Month with highest inflation rate Highest monthly inflation rate Equivalent daily inflation rate Time required for prices to double
Hungary July 1946 1.30 x 1016% 195% 15.6 hours
Zimbabwe Mid-November 2008 (latest measurable) 79,600,000,000% 98.0% 24.7 hours
Yugoslavia January 1994 313,000,000% 64.6% 1.4 days
Germany October 1923 29,500% 20.9% 3.7 days
Greece November 1944 11,300% 17.1% 4.5 days
China May 1949 4,210% 13.4% 5.6 days

Source: Prof. Steve H. Hanke, February 5, 2009.

New Hyperinflation Index (HHIZ) Puts Zimbabwe Inflation at 89.7 Sextillion Percent
by

Steve H. Hanke*
Professor of Applied Economics
The Johns Hopkins University
and
Senior Fellow
The Cato Institute

Zimbabwe is the first country in the 21st century to hyperinflate. In February 2007, Zimbabwe’s inflation rate topped 50% per month, the minimum rate required to qualify as a hyperinflation (50% per month is equal to a 12,875% per year). Since then, inflation has soared.

The last official inflation data were released for July and are hopelessly outdated. The Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe has been even less forthcoming with money supply data: the most recent money supply figures are ancient history—January 2008.


Absent current official money supply and inflation data, it is difficult to quantify the depth and breadth of the still-growing crisis in Zimbabwe. To overcome this problem, Cato Senior Fellow Steve Hanke has developed the Hanke Hyperinflation Index for Zimbabwe (HHIZ). This new metric is derived from market-based price data and is presented in the accompanying table for the January 2007 to present period. As of 14 November 2008, Zimbabwe’s annual inflation rate was 89.7 Sextillion (1021) percent.


Since mid-November 2008, the weekly update of the HHIZ has been put on hold. The market-based price data from Zimbabwe have deteriorated and, at present, cannot be used to update the HHIZ. HHIZ updates will be resumed as soon as the quality of the data reaches a satisfactory level.
*Steve H. Hanke is one of the world’s leading experts on exchange-rate regimes. He has played a prominent role in designing and implementing monetary reforms that have stopped very high or hyperinflations in eight countries.

Hanke Hyperinflation Index for Zimbabwe (HHIZ) Date Index Monthly Inflation Rate Annual Inflation Rate
5-Jan-07 1.00 13.70%
2-Feb-07 1.78 77.60%
2-Mar-07 3.14 76.70%
5-Apr-07 6.90 56.20%
4-May-07 6.75 -2.15%
1-Jun-07 20.70 207.00%
6-Jul-07 53.00 60.40%
3-Aug-07 49.10 -7.29%
7-Sep-07 82.50 70.60%
5-Oct-07 219.00 165.00%
2-Nov-07 642.00 193.00%
28-Dec-07 2,010.00 61.50% 215,000%
25-Jan-08 2,250.00 11.80%
29-Feb-08 8,260.00 259.00%
28-Mar-08 17,700.00 115.00%
25-Apr-08 57,100.00 222.00%
30-May-08 442,000.00 498.00%
26-Jun-08 23,600,000.00 5,250.00% 41,400,000%
4-Jul-08 49,200,000.00 3,740.00% 93,000,000%
11-Jul-08 81,800,000.00 2,080.00% 167,000,000%
18-Jul-08 122,000,000.00 1,030.00% 250,000,000%
25-Jul-08 157,000,000.00 566.00% 317,000,000%
29-Aug-08 6,330,000,000.00 3,190.00% 9,690,000,000%
26-Sep-08 794,000,000,000.00 12,400.00% 471,000,000,000%
3-Oct-08 3,570,000,000,000.00 15,400.00% 1,630,000,000,000%
10-Oct-08 32,300,000,000,000.00 45,900.00% 11,600,000,000,000%
17-Oct-08 1,070,000,000,000,000.00 493,000.00% 300,000,000,000,000%
24-Oct-08 124,000,000,000,000,000.00 15,600,000.00% 26,100,000,000,000,000%
31-Oct-08 24,600,000,000,000,000,000.00 690,000,000.00% 3,840,000,000,000,000,000%
7-Nov-08 4,890,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 15,200,000,000.00% 593,000,000,000,000,000,000%
14-Nov-08 853,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00 79,600,000,000.00% 89,700,000,000,000,000,000,000%

Sources: Imara Asset Management Zimbabwe and author’s calculations.

A Note on Zimbabwe’s Official Inflation Rate

Notes:
1. Numbers are reported with three significant figures.
2. The HHIZ is reported on the last trading day of the week.
3. The monthly inflation rate is HHIZ(t)/HHIZ(t-4) - 1 and the annual inflation rate is HHIZ(t)/HHIZ(t-52) - 1.
4. The HHIZ values are numerical estimates. In consequence, they are subject to revision when new price data are incorporated into the estimates.
5. Prof. Hanke would like to thank Alex Kwok for his research assistance on this project.
6. Prof. Hanke can be reached at his Johns Hopkins University office: (410) 516-7183 or hanke@jhu.edu



Studies
"Zimbabwe: From Hyperinflation to Growth," by Steve H. Hanke, Development Policy Analysis no. 6, June 25, 2008.

"A Decade of Suffering in Zimbabwe: Economic Collapse and Political Repression under Robert Mugabe," by David Coltart, Development Policy Analysis no. 5, March 24, 2008.

"The Loss of Property Rights and the Collapse of Zimbabwe," by Craig J. Richardson, Cato Journal Vol. 25 No. 3, Fall 2005.

Longer Articles
"How to Kill Zimbabwe's Hyperinflation," by Steve H Hanke, Global Dialogue, August 2008.

"Botswana and Zimbabwe: A Tale of Two Countries," by Marian L. Tupy, The American, May 14, 2008.

"Mugabe Is the Mobutu of Our Time," by Marian L. Tupy, Spectator, March 18, 2008.

"How the Loss of Property Rights Caused Zimbabwe's Collapse," by Craig Richardson, Economic Development Bulletin no. 4, November 14, 2005.

Op-Eds
"Letter to the Editor: Central Banking Has Troubled Past," by Steve H. Hanke, Business Day, March 16, 2009.

"The Printing Press," by Steve H. Hanke, Forbes, December 5, 2008.

"Hyperinflation: Mugabe Versus Milosevic," by Steve H. Hanke, Globe Asia, August 2008.

"Kill Central Bank to Fix Inflation in Zimbabwe," by Steve H. Hanke, The Times, July 13, 2008.

"The Aid Africa Can't Afford," by Edward N. Luttwak and Marian L. Tupy, Los Angeles Times, July 8, 2008.

"The Spiral of Zimbabwe," by Marian L. Tupy, New York Sun, June 23, 2008.

"Mugabe's Best Friend," by Marian L. Tupy, Forbes.com, April 10, 2007.

"The Long Fall of Robert G. Mugabe," by Marian L. Tupy, The New Republic (Online), March 28, 2008.

"Peace Won't Come to Zimbabwe," by Marian L. Tupy and David Coltart, The Wall Street Journal, March 14, 2008.

"New Hope for Zimbabwe," by Tom Woods, Roger Bate and Marian L. Tupy, Washington Times, February 6, 2008.

"Free Banking for Zimbabwe," by Steve H. Hanke, Globe Asia, December 2007.

"Mugabe's Apologists," by Marian L. Tupy, Wall Street Journal Europe, December 11, 2007.

"Hyperinflation," by Steve H. Hanke, Forbes, May 17, 2007.

"The World’s Greatest Unreported Hyperinflation," by Steve H. Hanke, Globe Asia, May 2007.

"A Four-Step Recovery Plan for Zimbabwe," by Marian L. Tupy, American.com, April 17, 2007.

"Bureaucratic Heart of Darkness," by Marian L. Tupy, Washington Times, April 16, 2006.

"Mugabe Should Heed the Warnings of Hayek," by Marian L. Tupy, Financial Times, July 27, 2005.

Podcasts
"Power Sharing in Zimbabwe" featuring Marian L. Tupy, September 17, 2008 [Flash Audio, 06:27]

"Poverty and Economy in Mugabe's Zimbabwe" featuring Rejoice Ngwenya, August 14, 2008 [Flash Audio, 06:51]

"How Inflation Robs Zimbabwe" featuring Rejoice Ngwenya, July 29, 2008 [Flash Audio, 08:18]

"Mugabe's Power Grab in Overtime" featuring Marian L. Tupy, April 4, 2008 [Flash Audio, 08:02]

"Elections in Zimbabwe" featuring Marian L. Tupy, March 31, 2008 [Flash Audio, 06:18]

"Disastrous Health Situation in Zimbabwe" featuring Richard Tren, March 25, 2008 [Flash Audio, 08:45]

Video
Marian L. Tupy discusses the Zimbabwe elections on BBC World News July 18, 2008 [Flash Video, 04:53]

Marian L. Tupy on Gallup discussing Zimbabweans' desire for change April 1, 2008 [Real Media, 03:02]

Marian Tupy on BBC World talking about Zimbabwe's elections March 28, 2008 [Flash Video, 05:04]

Marian Tupy on CNN International discussing Zimbabwe's elections March 28, 2008 [Flash Video, 05:22]

Forums
"Escaping Poverty in Sub-Saharan Africa," July 28, 2008 [Capitol Hill Briefing]

"Economic Collapse and Political Repression in Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe," March 24, 2008 [Policy Forum]

"The Collapse of Zimbabwe in the Wake of the 2000-2003 Land Reforms," March 28, 2005 [Book Forum]

"Battle For Zimbabwe: The Final Countdown," Wednesday, June 30, 2004 [Book Forum]

cknaz
07-22-2009, 08:00 AM
david bowie

heheheh :/

summerkid
07-22-2009, 10:28 AM
Zimrocks isn't real. The guy claims that the exact same group of artists played in 2009, as well. It seems more of a wish list for his imaginary festival than anything else.

like i said it was supposed to happen in 2009 but it got pushed back to 2010 that's why the lineup is out already and for those saying a festival wouldn't happen its supposed to be a humanitarian thing honoring some concert Bob Marley played there.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
07-22-2009, 10:46 AM
like i said it was supposed to happen in 2009 but it got pushed back to 2010 that's why the lineup is out already and for those saying a festival wouldn't happen its supposed to be a humanitarian thing honoring some concert Bob Marley played there.

the country has rolling blackouts and barely has running water....I doubt it can pull a festival...the country can barely feed itself.

obzen
07-22-2009, 11:04 AM
Bowie.

:mad:

summerkid
07-22-2009, 11:06 AM
the country has rolling blackouts and barely has running water....I doubt it can pull a festival...the country can barely feed itself.

probably why it was canceled in 2009, so yeah probably wont happen.

jgafs
07-22-2009, 01:05 PM
'the country has rolling blackouts and barely has running water'

So does California and GV pulls it off...

dorkfish
07-22-2009, 02:55 PM
The Zimrocks lineup only appears 35 times on all of the internet that Google's aware of. The lineup isn't mentioned on the any of the official site's pages, as well. It's just overwhelmingly more likely that its a complete fabrication than there is evidence to show that it might occur.

betao
07-22-2009, 03:37 PM
YES! one small victory for Coachella-kind.

That is, assuming Coachella is actually the same weekend as this festival.

hopefully it is a victory for us.

Boourns
07-22-2009, 03:47 PM
Radiohead (no way they are touring again by then)
David Bowie (heart trouble so the older he gets, the less likely he gets; doesn't need to do anything for money)
The Smiths (if Moz and Marr wouldn't play together after making nice for the recent reissues, they never will)
The Knife (doubtful a new album/tour will be ready in time with all the side projects going on)
Boards of Canada (won't play live)
Burial (won't play live)
Future Sound of London (I don't count webcasts)
Tom Waits (it's a major festival with major media coverage, no way)
Scott Walker (never plays live)
Kate Bush (crazy)
Neutral Milk Hotel (crazy)
The Libertines/Pete Doherty (visa woes)
Amy Wino (visa woes)
Air (they were hella pissed over the 2007 fiasco)
last year's headliners and subheadliners
Prince (too soon)
Roger Waters (too soon)
Jack Johnson (too soon)

amyzzz
07-22-2009, 04:07 PM
NIN

dorkfish
07-22-2009, 04:10 PM
At the Drive-In are also backing down from their "we'd do it for a suitcase of money" reunion to more of a "we're over it, it's done and done"

dorkfish
07-22-2009, 04:11 PM
Radiohead (no way they are touring again by then)
David Bowie (heart trouble so the older he gets, the less likely he gets; doesn't need to do anything for money)
The Smiths (if Moz and Marr wouldn't play together after making nice for the recent reissues, they never will)
The Knife (doubtful a new album/tour will be ready in time with all the side projects going on)
Boards of Canada (won't play live)
Burial (won't play live)
Future Sound of London (I don't count webcasts)
Tom Waits (it's a major festival with major media coverage, no way)
Scott Walker (never plays live)
Kate Bush (crazy)
Neutral Milk Hotel (crazy)
The Libertines/Pete Doherty (visa woes)
Amy Wino (visa woes)
U2 (livenation)
Jay-Zed (livenation)
Air (they were hella pissed over the 2007 fiasco)
last year's headliners and subheadliners
Prince (too soon)
Roger Waters (too soon)
Jack Johnson (too soon)
I wouldn't make too much out of Livenation signings. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Roger Waters was signed to a Livenation contract, as well.

hendrixfan143
07-22-2009, 04:21 PM
Fugazi

sleepybrew
07-22-2009, 05:06 PM
hilarious


'the country has rolling blackouts and barely has running water'

So does California and GV pulls it off...

menikmati
07-22-2009, 05:12 PM
NIN

NIN will be back touring before you know it, trust me.

oceansc420
07-25-2009, 12:01 PM
Daft Punk

summerkid
07-26-2009, 03:36 PM
Daft Punk

i'd say they are likely i'm sure disney wants them to get out and tour before tron 2 comes out would be a good marketing campaign.

Also looks like being signed on to live nation doesn't mean much with Jay-Z headlining apw.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
07-26-2009, 03:47 PM
Also looks like being signed on to live nation doesn't mean much with Jay-Z headlining apw.

same for U2.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
07-26-2009, 03:48 PM
Radiohead (no way they are touring again by then)
David Bowie (heart trouble so the older he gets, the less likely he gets; doesn't need to do anything for money)
The Smiths (if Moz and Marr wouldn't play together after making nice for the recent reissues, they never will)
The Knife (doubtful a new album/tour will be ready in time with all the side projects going on)
Boards of Canada (won't play live)
Burial (won't play live)
Future Sound of London (I don't count webcasts)
Tom Waits (it's a major festival with major media coverage, no way)
Scott Walker (never plays live)
Kate Bush (crazy)
Neutral Milk Hotel (crazy)
The Libertines/Pete Doherty (visa woes)
Amy Wino (visa woes)
Air (they were hella pissed over the 2007 fiasco)
last year's headliners and subheadliners
Prince (too soon)
Roger Waters (too soon)
Jack Johnson (too soon)

Did Air ever say no coachella ever?

Kid B
07-26-2009, 05:58 PM
Arn't the Chili Peppers on hiatus too?

Kid B
07-26-2009, 06:01 PM
I wouldn't make too much out of Livenation signings. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Roger Waters was signed to a Livenation contract, as well.

Either way, U2 wouldn't play because their show is too large scale for Coachella and they said no festivals.

boarderwoozel3
07-26-2009, 06:19 PM
Talking Heads :(


Either way, U2 wouldn't play because their show is too large scale for Coachella and they said no festivals.

If U2 change their tune on festivals I can see them wanting to do Glasto first. UK and all.

pancakespancakes
07-26-2009, 06:44 PM
'the country has rolling blackouts and barely has running water'

So does California and GV pulls it off...

I lol'd. :)

Kid B
07-26-2009, 07:13 PM
Regarding the Talking Heads, is there any possibility of a David Byrne sub-headlining slot?

oftheheartofthesoul
07-26-2009, 07:41 PM
I'll mention Fiona Apple in this thread to keep myself from getting disappointed everytime she DOESN'T make the lineup.

Unless...

nbvcide
08-31-2009, 03:49 PM
Oasis
DJ Am

(any chance we'll get a TRV$AOKI set though??)

BlackSwan
08-31-2009, 08:37 PM
Elbow

Sleepingrock
08-31-2009, 08:41 PM
Elbow

Why no chance on Elbow??

Enlighten me

nbvcide
08-31-2009, 10:02 PM
Elbow

BOOOOO mother fucker

that was one of my easy predicts for 2010..

summerkid
09-01-2009, 01:10 AM
Why no chance on Elbow??

Enlighten me

they are on a little hiatus I believe.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-01-2009, 05:37 AM
The Knife/Fever Ray...goddamnit....Karin said in an interview that 2009 was all about Fever Ray and that she would be entering the studio with Olof in 2010....But I still have hope...

And the Strokes since Julian is going to be doing the solo thing...

Boourns
09-01-2009, 08:04 AM
Re: Bat for Lashes...

I asked Natasha if there would be anymore touring and she said not for a while. That's not too specific, though. Well, here's hoping that "not for a while" means not until Coachella 2010, as opposed to a couple years from now :)

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-01-2009, 08:19 AM
Re: Bat for Lashes...

I asked Natasha if there would be anymore touring and she said not for a while. That's not too specific, though. Well, here's hoping that "not for a while" means not until Coachella 2010, as opposed to a couple years from now :)

ghey...

amyzzz
09-01-2009, 08:36 AM
They didn't even come here.

malcolmjamalawesome
09-01-2009, 09:38 AM
Bat For Lashes clearly needs more of the dancey dance and bloop dee boop.

SoulDischarge
09-01-2009, 10:54 AM
Just because an artist says they're not touring or not playing is no reason to dismiss them. See: MBV.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-01-2009, 10:56 AM
Just because an artist says they're not touring or not playing is no reason to dismiss them. See: MBV.

Win.

Alas, the Killers also said no last year too....if anyone remembers.....

BlackSwan
09-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Why no chance on Elbow??

Enlighten me


BOOOOO mother fucker

that was one of my easy predicts for 2010..

That is because you are a fucking idiot.


they are on a little hiatus I believe.

You are correct...


Elbow for giant Manchester homecoming gig

Elbow are set to play a show at the Manchester MEN Arena on September 18 and then, according to frontman Guy Garvey, "disappear" from the live scene until they finish their next album.

The band are billing the event as a special homecoming show that has extra poignancy as the venue is located within a mile of Blueprint Studios, where they recorded their hugely successful latest album 'The Seldom Seen Kid'.

"It'll be the biggest show we've done," Garvey told NME.COM. "Then we'll disappear for a couple of years to work on a new record."

See the new issue of NME, out tomorrow (April 29), for the full interview with the Elbow man.

Tickets for the show go on sale on Friday (May 1).

http://www.nme.com/news/elbow/44304

ZackQ
09-03-2009, 02:45 PM
No repeat set from TV on the Radio, they're taking a break.

nbvcide
09-04-2009, 02:19 PM
Nirvana
Warren Zevon
Billy Mays

and i would've said Sublime except that they're reuniting in October..
Sublime Coachella 2010?

& i think it's safe to say The Killers and Jack Johnson.. and probably Radiohead
but i'm still holding out hope for David Bowie..

MissingPerson
11-27-2009, 11:54 AM
So it won't be buried in the rumour thread - or in the Joy Parade, where sane minds fear to tread - I guess it might be worth posting here too.


Arcade Fire's tour won't be starting until June at the earliest according to the band.

This comes courtesy of a Primavera Sound rep.

Further to which Bell Orchestre, which is half made of AF members, have dates booked until late February with an eye to booking more. It wouldn't leave a big enough window for Arcade Fire to get in gear.

Although the lateness of their tour start could mean that they might end up making it to Coachella 2011, I'm told that the band themselves are dead set against booking any festivals again for the foreseeable future.

It's a pity Salah's not here to enjoy the news, really.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
11-27-2009, 11:56 AM
So it won't be buried in the rumour thread - or in the Joy Parade, where sane minds fear to tread - I guess it might be worth posting here too.



Further to which Bell Orchestre, which is half made of AF members, have dates booked until late February with an eye to booking more. It wouldn't leave a big enough window for Arcade Fire to get in gear.

Although the lateness of their tour start could mean that they might end up making it to Coachella 2011, I'm told that the band themselves are dead set against booking any festivals again for the foreseeable future.

It's a pity Salah's not here to enjoy the news, really.

:nono

captncrzy
11-27-2009, 11:59 AM
Their American tour better not conflict with my wedding and honeymoon.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
11-27-2009, 12:00 PM
I really don't see why they would be so anti festival.

MissingPerson
11-27-2009, 12:39 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/jill_valentine/AF%20General/29560980-29560981-large.jpg

Again, I think they like the actual playing of festivals, but the logistics involved in hauling that circus of theirs around is what they find pretty hard going. Travelling, press, time constraints etc... all that stuff is a little bit more fraught and a little bit further out of their control when they aren't touring under their own sail.

Rather than hating it, I think it's just something they'd rather avoid if they can. You know, so they don't all go crazy and get divorced and jam violins in each other.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
11-27-2009, 12:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/jill_valentine/AF%20General/29560980-29560981-large.jpg

Again, I think they like the actual playing of festivals, but the logistics involved in hauling that circus of theirs around is what they find pretty hard going. Travelling, press, time constraints etc... all that stuff is a little bit more fraught and a little bit further out of their control when they aren't touring under their own sail.

Rather than hating it, I think it's just something they'd rather avoid if they can. You know, so they don't all go crazy and get divorced and jam violins in each other.

sounds more like Win's being a girl.

somebodytoldme
11-27-2009, 12:43 PM
All the names in the first post are of black people. Is this thread racist?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
11-27-2009, 12:44 PM
well, its was for a festival in Zimbabwe and yes Zimbabwe is racist.

MissingPerson
11-27-2009, 12:49 PM
sounds more like Win's being a girl.

Or that.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/sharpiehi/sdgfsdg.png

MissingPerson
11-27-2009, 12:50 PM
Their American tour better not conflict with my wedding and honeymoon.

We could try the Polo field trick. Try and book them for a wedding. See if we can trick them into saying something like "No, sorry, we're releasing an album that day" or whatever.

somebodytoldme
11-27-2009, 12:57 PM
well, its was for a festival in Zimbabwe and yes Zimbabwe is racist.

Ooooh. I didn't see the link at the bottom of that post. That makes sense, then.

rage patton
11-27-2009, 01:36 PM
I think it was a year ago or so when I first said Muse was going to headline in 2010 and Arcade Fire are going to in 2011. Im sticking to it.

MonOm
11-27-2009, 07:23 PM
If U2 change their tune on festivals I can see them wanting to do Glasto first. UK and all.

Good Call.

Grant
11-27-2009, 07:33 PM
I think it was a year ago or so when I first said Muse was going to headline in 2010 and Arcade Fire are going to in 2011. Im sticking to it.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_53oMB4-fxXM/SVZZdJntnPI/AAAAAAAAAAM/vXEtrdBFtqI/s1600-R/cookie.gif

beavington
11-30-2009, 12:04 PM
The Zimrocks lineup only appears 35 times on all of the internet that Google's aware of. The lineup isn't mentioned on the any of the official site's pages, as well. It's just overwhelmingly more likely that its a complete fabrication than there is evidence to show that it might occur.

Well if it comes up 35 times then that is evidence that the show might occur.

drewoftherushes
11-30-2009, 12:57 PM
Props:


If U2 change their tune on festivals I can see them wanting to do Glasto first. UK and all.

beavington
12-02-2009, 12:01 PM
I think it was a year ago or so when I first said Muse was going to headline in 2010 and Arcade Fire are going to in 2011. Im sticking to it.

Sounds like it might be Arcade Fire and Muse in 2010

Kid B
12-02-2009, 12:08 PM
Sounds like it might be Arcade Fire and Muse in 2010
Why? Arcade Fire are releasing their album mid 2010 (probably after Coachella) and I doubt they'll do any festivals before the album is released considering that they already got burnt out on so many festivals on the last tour. I don't think they're going to be quick to jump into any. I agree with Rage that they will most likely be there in 2011.

getbetter
12-02-2009, 12:16 PM
sigh hopefully they tour north america before the end of 2010 those(arcade fire)

Kid B
12-02-2009, 12:27 PM
sigh hopefully they tour north america before the end of 2010 those(arcade fire)

They're going to tour the U.S in the summer. I just don't think they're going to play as many festivals let alone play Coachella.

getbetter
12-02-2009, 12:28 PM
well that cool i rather see arcade fire by them self anyways

captncrzy
12-02-2009, 12:29 PM
from billboard



The Arcade Fire, the acclaimed Canadian indie rock band that exploded onto the international scene with 2003's "Funeral," is nearing completion of its as-yet-untitled third album and plans to return to the stage in 2010. The album, which according to Billboard sources is currently on track for a May release, will be Arcade Fire's first set of new material since 2007's "Neon Bible." The band have not performed publicly since Jan. 21, when the group played at the Obama Campaign Staff Ball at the DC Armory following the presidential inauguration.

While details of the new album are scarce, the BBC revealed yesterday that the band has spent the past six months ensconced in the studio with producer Markus Dravs, who has worked with the likes of Coldplay, Bjork and Brian Eno, and served as engineer on "Bible." According to British musician Marcus Mumford, Dravs has called the band's new songs "better."

Billboard sources say the album will be preceded by a single release earlier in 2010. The band is weighing multiple offers for live shows in the spring, and will likely take a top slot at one or more of the major North American summer festivals.

"Funeral" has already been named one of the top albums of the decade by such varied outlets at NPR's All Songs Considered, NME and Pitchfork, which rated it No. 2 on its list of "The Top 200 Albums of the 2000s." "Funeral" has sold 466,000 copies in the United States and "Neon Bible" has sold 420,000, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

amyzzz
12-02-2009, 12:34 PM
a top slot? :nono

Kid B
12-02-2009, 12:37 PM
If they do play and it's their first show back, I think they will get top billing.

beavington
12-02-2009, 12:50 PM
If they do play and it's their first show back, I think they will get top billing.

I think they will get top billing anyway.

THey havent been gone for so long that their first show back will be such a huge event.

MissingPerson
12-02-2009, 01:02 PM
Uh, not to be Debbie Downer or nothing but...

We're looking at a single in the new year. Album sometime in May. Couple of live shows in May, and then a big Summer festival. I still think they're a very, very long shot for Coachella.

faxman75
12-02-2009, 01:06 PM
I'm all for seeing Arcade Fire again but if two of our three Coachella headliners were Muse and Arcade Fire, I would say that's a bit a weak. Unless of course they spent all of their money on Bowie or something as the third.


I'm still holding out hope for some festival to get the Massive Attack / Portishead one two punch.

captncrzy
12-02-2009, 01:16 PM
http://hoboken411.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/debbie-downer-lottery.jpg

beavington
12-02-2009, 01:17 PM
Uh, not to be Debbie Downer or nothing but...

We're looking at a single in the new year. Album sometime in May. Couple of live shows in May, and then a big Summer festival. I still think they're a very, very long shot for Coachella.

well no one said they were defnite but the fact that they are looking at possible festival dates does sound more promising than others spewing shit like they wont play festivals.
Plus you dont need to have an album out to headline a show you know.

A single is good enough, especially if they are offered a headlining gig at Coachella? Who the hell, as a rather new band, would turn that down?

MissingPerson
12-02-2009, 02:35 PM
others spewing shit like they wont play festivals.

Them.

They said they did not want to play festivals. Not message board rumours, not friend of a friend. Not Twitter rumours.

The band said "We are not going to any festivals", in those words.

I can vouch for that, I can swear to it if you want, but that is absolutely direct from the horse's mouth.

psycobetabuckdown
12-02-2009, 02:42 PM
Win's not the best looking guy, but comparing him to a horse is just rude.

Clear Channel Must Die
12-02-2009, 03:06 PM
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club will be doing a US tour in February - April and touring the UK and Europe for a month starting April 16.

Link to tour dates: http://www.blackrebelmotorcycleclub.com/shows/

Boourns
12-02-2009, 03:26 PM
Bat for Lashes :(

Kid B
12-02-2009, 03:57 PM
Bat for Lashes :(

Why not?

Boourns
12-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Emailed the official myspace, was told that Bat for Lashes is not booked to play Coachella. Hopefully that changes between now and then...

Kid B
12-02-2009, 04:13 PM
That's disappointing. I still have yet to see her live. Yes, hopefully it changes. GV better get on that.

Boourns
12-02-2009, 04:22 PM
Saw her at Glasto and the Fonda last year...incredible live.

PJandBompton
12-02-2009, 04:35 PM
3 hour Arcade Fire set at Bonnaroo?

psycobetabuckdown
12-02-2009, 04:36 PM
That would make me so angry/jealous.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
12-02-2009, 04:38 PM
do they even have 3 hours worth of recorded music yet?

MissingPerson
12-02-2009, 04:42 PM
They could cover The Soft Bulletin for the remainder.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
12-02-2009, 04:43 PM
They could cover The Soft Bulletin for the remainder.

omg

Boourns
12-02-2009, 05:06 PM
Funeral, Neon Bible, the upcoming album, the ep, the b-sides, the covers...yeah, they could easily fill three hours. They wouldn't, though.

MissingPerson
12-02-2009, 05:27 PM
No, I'm fairly sure at least one of them would sweat themselves inside out long before the 3 hour mark.

Boourns
12-02-2009, 05:34 PM
Right. Is it possible to keep up that level of energy and intensity for 3 hours? Well, they have done two 60-75 minute shows in one night before, but that's with a few hours of a break in between.

faxman75
12-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Lets say Arcade Fire kick off their tour at Bonnaroo. Lets say that because of this, David Bowie decides that's the fest he wants to play as well, because his good friends are there. What would the Coachella board do then?!

MissingPerson
12-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Jeremy's passed out at least once on stage. The crew dragged him off and Régine took the drums until he came back around. Then he finished the show.

Boourns
12-02-2009, 06:08 PM
Lets say Arcade Fire kick off their tour at Bonnaroo. Lets say that because of this, David Bowie decides that's the fest he wants to play as well, because his good friends are there. What would the Coachella board do then?!

I'd have to go to Bonnaroo instead.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
12-02-2009, 06:15 PM
do you REALLY think that would happen?

faxman75
12-02-2009, 06:39 PM
I really think anything is possible with these festivals. We learned that when Madonna came to play Coachella.

redthreat
12-02-2009, 07:32 PM
with the pixies tour this year, i doubt they'll be there... not that a lot of people were really expecting it. but still..

emtgreg
12-02-2009, 07:42 PM
Lets say Arcade Fire kick off their tour at Bonnaroo. Lets say that because of this, David Bowie decides that's the fest he wants to play as well, because his good friends are there. What would the Coachella board do then?!

I'd go to Bonnaroo.





Probably Skip Burning man until 2011 if that was the case...

emtgreg
12-02-2009, 07:43 PM
That is saying alot, as I met the founder of the 'Roo at Coachella this year...And, well, he's not as nice as Paul Tollett.

beavington
12-03-2009, 06:49 AM
Them.

They said they did not want to play festivals. Not message board rumours, not friend of a friend. Not Twitter rumours.

The band said "We are not going to any festivals", in those words.

I can vouch for that, I can swear to it if you want, but that is absolutely direct from the horse's mouth.

well artists say a lot of things that change when there is a dollar value. And if the article said they are looking into festivals as a headliner then it sounds like they changed their mind, or their manager advised them heavily to change their mind.

Look at how many times Ozzy has retired.

MissingPerson
12-03-2009, 07:02 AM
well artists say a lot of things that change when there is a dollar value. And if the article said they are looking into festivals as a headliner then it sounds like they changed their mind, or their manager advised them heavily to change their mind.

I don't dispute that.

I'm just stating that it wasn't just bullshit being batted around for the sake of it. 1/7th of the Arcade Fire was dismissing out of hand the possibility of doing any more festivals "unless something dramatic changes", as of a few weeks ago.

Assuming something dramatic has changed in the meantime, it's still a fairly blunt indicator of how enthusiastic they are about dragging themselves around the festival circuit. Between that, and the timeline Billboard sketched out, I still think they can be more or less ruled off the board for Coachella. I don't claim any grand authority on the subject, but I'd be hugely surprised.

beavington
12-03-2009, 07:16 AM
I don't dispute that.

I'm just stating that it wasn't just bullshit being batted around for the sake of it. 1/7th of the Arcade Fire was dismissing out of hand the possibility of doing any more festivals "unless something dramatic changes", as of a few weeks ago.

Assuming something dramatic has changed in the meantime, it's still a fairly blunt indicator of how enthusiastic they are about dragging themselves around the festival circuit. Between that, and the timeline Billboard sketched out, I still think they can be more or less ruled off the board for Coachella. I don't claim any grand authority on the subject, but I'd be hugely surprised.

well i would still like to think it is definite. But no one will know until the names are on the poster.

sk8r408
12-03-2009, 09:57 AM
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club will not be playing Coachella...

Apr 16 2010 7:00P ABC Glasgow
Apr 17 2010 7:00P Civic Hall Whitehaven
Apr 19 2010 7:00P University Newcastle
Apr 20 2010 7:00P Ritz Manchester

Sleeping Lion
12-03-2009, 10:40 AM
Beach House will not be attending as well.

Victoria called me personally and said the baby is giving her hell.

Coachella Bound
12-03-2009, 12:26 PM
NO BLACK EYED PEAS THIS YEAR!!!!!

your welcome :)

nbvcide
12-03-2009, 11:34 PM
The band is also said to be “weighing multiple offers for live shows in the spring

http://consequenceofsound.net/2009/12/02/new-arcade-fire-confirmed-for-this-spring/

MissingPerson
12-04-2009, 02:55 AM
Nbvcide, that's just coming from the Billboard article we were talking about in the first place. There's some dispute on the point.

NME have since reported that an Arcade Fire spokesperson (hmm) has refuted the Billboard article.
http://www.nme.com/news/arcade-fire/48702

So take your pick, really.

dorkfish
12-04-2009, 10:31 AM
Spiritualized's Jason Pierce has quashed rumours that his former band Spaceman 3 are set to reunite.

Pierce explained that relations between him and Peter Kember, who he co-founded the band with in 1982, are still hostile following their 1991 split. Pierce also told The Sun that he'd recently been asked to reform the band to play an ATP festival, an offer which he said he "wasn't interested" in pursuing.

"The split was so acrimonious and my view of him hasn't changed," Pierce explained, adding: "No, I've not mellowed about him."

He went on to reveal more details of the new Spiritualized album, which could be released in 2010, saying: "We're recording at the moment. I want to say it will be out next year but I don't know yet. But it sounds great, really great."

Boourns
12-04-2009, 11:05 AM
That's disappointing. I still have yet to see her live. Yes, hopefully it changes. GV better get on that.

She sold out two goldenvoice venues in three months, so I am sure they are at bat for her. It's possible she hasn't been asked, but it's more likely she has but is unavailable for whatever reason or is still undecided. Hopefully undecided.

Boourns
12-04-2009, 11:09 AM
So should we come up with a list of acts that have either said directly they aren't playing, or have information floating around that makes them less likely (Stooges tour dates, what Primavera said about Radiohead, Arcade Fire, etc) and edit it into the first post?

AlecEiffel
12-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Shout Out Louds will be playing shows in Sweden during Coachella weekend.

Boourns
12-04-2009, 02:41 PM
Artist or representative said no:
Bat for Lashes
Gossip

Can't play due to tour schedule:
Shout Out Louds
BRMC
The Prodigy

Doubtful due to tour schedule:
Iggy Pop & the Stooges

Not playing anywhere:
Radiohead Primavera reps said they do not plan to play live)
David Bowie

Conflicting reports:
Arcade Fire (billboard says spring, considering festivals, NME says second half of 2010 and no gigs booked)

What else?

nbvcide
12-04-2009, 11:05 PM
Artist or representative said no:
Bat for Lashes
Gossip


odd.. i received information a week or two ago saying The Gossip WAS playing.

was your info from artist or rep? curious..

Boourns
12-04-2009, 11:28 PM
I thought someone posted on here a few weeks ago that they asked Beth Ditto and she said no.

TickleMeElmo
12-04-2009, 11:54 PM
If anyone cares, I'm pretty sure I read on his Twitter that Harvard Bass won't be playing.

betao
12-05-2009, 09:42 AM
Spiritualized's Jason Pierce has quashed rumours that his former band Spaceman 3 are set to reunite.

Pierce explained that relations between him and Peter Kember, who he co-founded the band with in 1982, are still hostile following their 1991 split. Pierce also told The Sun that he'd recently been asked to reform the band to play an ATP festival, an offer which he said he "wasn't interested" in pursuing.

"The split was so acrimonious and my view of him hasn't changed," Pierce explained, adding: "No, I've not mellowed about him."

He went on to reveal more details of the new Spiritualized album, which could be released in 2010, saying: "We're recording at the moment. I want to say it will be out next year but I don't know yet. But it sounds great, really great."

this is depressing news :(

hauntedflowers
12-05-2009, 01:55 PM
What was the 2007 Air fiasco?





sorry new to coachella

Kid B
12-05-2009, 02:06 PM
If I remember correctly, they came on late and only got through about 8 songs.

rage patton
12-05-2009, 03:25 PM
I thought someone posted on here a few weeks ago that they asked Beth Ditto and she said no.

Jeff (boarderwoozle) said he talked to them and they said they would love to, but won't be playing. Keep in mind, this was in October.

crombrenner
12-05-2009, 11:16 PM
Mark down Kings of Leon as a no go for 2010. I work at a certain high end restaurant in Beverly Hills and I waited on Nathan Followill on Saturday night. Nice guy by the way, tipped 30%. I asked point blank if they were playing Coachella this year and he said "officially, no". There you have it!! Kings haters rejoice!!

suprefan
12-05-2009, 11:24 PM
Mark down Kings of Leon as a no go for 2010. I work at a certain high end restaurant in Beverly Hills and I waited on Nathan Followill on Saturday night. Nice guy by the way, tipped 30%. I asked point blank if they were playing Coachella this year and he said "officially, no". There you have it!! Kings haters rejoice!!

Pics or it didnt happen..



What was the 2007 Air fiasco?


sorry new to coachella


Dont ask.

guedita
12-06-2009, 02:29 AM
Let's be honest, KoL would probably sell an ass-ton of tickets, and while everyone else is douchely singing along to "Sex on Fire," the rest of us will be having the time of our lives elsewhere: at a 2ManyDjs set in the Sahara.

I will also admit that I like their older stuff (Aha and Youth) and enjoyed seeing them live, but have no need to ever again.

Quote: "We know you're sick of Kings of Leon. We're fucking sick of Kings of Leon too" (Caleb Followill)

Boourns
12-06-2009, 02:57 AM
Let's be honest, KoL would probably sell an ass-ton of tickets, and while everyone else is douchely singing along to "Sex on Fire," the rest of us will be having the time of our lives elsewhere: at a Soulwax live set in the Sahara.

Fixed

crombrenner
12-06-2009, 07:46 AM
Sorry Suprefan, I like my job. If I take a pic of a celebrity, I get fired. You can believe me or not, I really don't care. But it is a fact, why would I make that up?

psycobetabuckdown
12-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Let's be honest, KoL would probably sell an ass-ton of tickets, and while everyone else is douchely singing along to "Sex on Fire," the rest of us will be having the time of our lives elsewhere: at a 2ManyDjs set in the Sahara.

I will also admit that I like their older stuff (Aha and Youth) and enjoyed seeing them live, but have no need to ever again.

Quote: "We know you're sick of Kings of Leon. We're fucking sick of Kings of Leon too" (Caleb Followill)

2 problems with this:

1) Their old stuff was way douchier than their new stuff. Retro rock is super gay.
2) If you don't enjoy singing along to Sex on Fire with a bunch of drunk frat boys, you are a joyless hipster.

boarderwoozel3
12-06-2009, 11:36 PM
<--- Joyless hipster, apparently.

rage patton
12-06-2009, 11:39 PM
Write me down as a joyless hipster as well.

And we all knew KOL weren't gonna be at Coachella. Everyone except for Chris and Nationocean apparently.

liquidsnake28
12-07-2009, 06:16 AM
If you don't enjoy singing along to Sex on Fire with a bunch of drunk frat boys, you are a joyless hipster.

So if we don't enjoy singing alongside drunken douchebag faggots to a terrible, terrible song we're joyless hipsters? Nice logic there. Aren't KOL and Nickelback the same band? I don't hear much of a difference.

Boourns
12-07-2009, 06:29 AM
KOL is Nickelback with all the genericness but none of the yarling.

And I thought hipsters loved to enjoy bad songs ironically.

liquidsnake28
12-07-2009, 06:31 AM
KOL definitely yarls.

Monklish
12-07-2009, 06:31 AM
KOL is not as bad as Nickleback, c'mon now.

hendrixfan143
12-07-2009, 07:01 AM
FUCK

liquidsnake28
12-07-2009, 07:37 AM
Ok maybe Nickelback is worse but I've never heard anyone praise Nickelback as the greatest rock of our time like Sushov and many other people do with KOL. If people would shut up about KOL I wouldn't put them in the same league as Nickelback but the hype still hasn't died.

Leeartlee
12-07-2009, 08:04 AM
Well I would tell people to rest easy that John Mayer is unlikely due to him playing LA in March (just got a spam email from Live Nation). But then again, his last US date is the 10th before he starts his European tour in May.

JM '10 = JJ '08?

somebodytoldme
12-07-2009, 08:15 AM
I wrote about this in another thread, but I think the Silversun Pickups repeat appearance rumor should be squashed since it's looking like they'll only be supporting Muse on the east coast leg of their tour in February and March.

emtgreg
12-07-2009, 08:24 AM
John Mayer may be a douche....

But he is a douche who really knows how to play guitar...

johnnypolite
12-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Kill me now but I prefer The Killers to Kings of Leon. Seriously.

Coachella Bound
12-07-2009, 08:31 AM
there exactly the same as far as im concerned... great early work and transformed into a crap radio band!

rskapcat
12-07-2009, 08:31 AM
John Mayer may be a douche....

But he is a douche who really knows how to play guitar...

This.


Kill me now but I prefer The Killers to Kings of Leon. Seriously.

And this.

I don't dislike the first 2 KoL records. But the band has gone all arena rock now, while Caleb still yowls the same. Sounds turrible.

Leeartlee
12-07-2009, 09:17 AM
John Mayer may be a douche....

But he is a douche who really knows how to play guitar...

I saw him live a few years back and the funny thing is, the typical John Mayer fan was kind of bummed on seeing him live because he primarily flexes his guitar virtuoso when on stage. He is kind of a different beast live.

obzen
12-07-2009, 09:46 AM
John Mayer is not a beast by any stretch of the imagination.






He's a queer giraffe.

captncrzy
12-07-2009, 09:52 AM
Brandon asked Cold Cave if they were playing and they said "We haven't heard back yet". Sounds like a "no", unless someone else declines and they slip CC in to take the slot.

psycobetabuckdown
12-07-2009, 01:49 PM
If people would shut up about KOL I wouldn't put them in the same league as Nickelback but the hype still hasn't died.

So basically your criticism is all relative and you can't form an opinion on music outside of what other people think about said music.

I'm not a Kings of Leon fan and I've never heard anything from them that I more than sorta like, but jesus, their recent singles are FUN. It's like Lady Gaga. No need to take it too seriously. I'm not even saying they'd be worth watching if they headlined, but if you're in that crowd and people are singing along to Sex on Fire and you don't even mildly enjoy it then you're boring.

Gribbz
12-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Looks like AIR won't be there. They have an LA date in late March.

psycobetabuckdown
12-07-2009, 01:58 PM
Worst news in a while ^

Boourns
12-07-2009, 02:14 PM
Ladytron. Their Windish availability for 2010:

New album by Fall. NA as a band unless affordable one-offs, DJ avails possible

PJandBompton
12-07-2009, 02:29 PM
I still haven't understood the KoL hate...is it because they blew up? This album should have been expected with the way the band was going after Because of the Times...Crawl and Closer are still two badass songs...I'd say wait until the next album before they are totally written off as sellouts, they've said it is gonna be "grungier" than anything they've done...

Boourns
12-07-2009, 02:37 PM
Because they're awful? I got stuck all the way in the back for Arcade Fire at Coachella because I refused to endure KoL to get a good spot.

psycobetabuckdown
12-07-2009, 02:46 PM
I still haven't understood the KoL hate...is it because they blew up?

Yes. Seriously. In 2007 when they were booked for Coachella people were a little meh about them, and understandably. But never was there this type of hate. They are and always have been a mediocre rock band, but certainly nothing worse. If anything they're more interesting now and would put on a better live show (2007 was pretty boring).

amyzzz
12-07-2009, 02:58 PM
suffered through KoL while waiting for Radiohead at All Points West.

psycobetabuckdown
12-07-2009, 03:01 PM
Yeah I can imagine that would be painful. When did Underworld go on?

TallGuyCM
12-07-2009, 03:09 PM
Crucify me all you want, I still really love KoL's first two albums. Slow Night So Long is still great live I'm sure.

guedita
12-07-2009, 05:03 PM
2 problems with this:

1) Their old stuff was way douchier than their new stuff. Retro rock is super gay.
2) If you don't enjoy singing along to Sex on Fire with a bunch of drunk frat boys, you are a joyless hipster.

1) Well that's probably an aesthetic taste difference we have then, because I find whatever kind of arena/glamish rock they now do to be more annoying than their old stuff. And I'd argue that the gay community is more of a fan of their newer music (or at least their new hair cuts and attire), but I'm assuming you use that word in an attempt to connote an undesirable quality.

2) I've never been briefed on the ideal level of joy a hipster should have, but when I saw KoL I did drunkenly sing along to Sex on Fire in a mass crowd of frat-boy fist pumping. I agree it would be hard not to find yourself singing along to that one, unless you were really making a conscious effort to have a bad time, which seems counterproductive if you're at a show to begin with.

PJandBompton
12-07-2009, 05:08 PM
Crucify me all you want, I still really love KoL's first two albums. Slow Night So Long is still great live I'm sure.

yup. it still kicks ass. they close with it and Caleb goes OFF...unfortunately Caleb is the only one who looks like he is playing a show and not just rehearsing...the rest of the guys just look totally uninterested...such a shame...

Zooey
12-08-2009, 01:12 AM
Fuck that! Why isn't Bat for Lashes playing? I was really hoping she would. :mad:

Boourns
12-08-2009, 02:27 AM
Fuck that! Why isn't Bat for Lashes playing? I was really hoping she would. :mad:

Me too, would be unreal on the outdoor late afternoon. Hopefully she just hasn't been officially booked YET. I wonder if she does play, would it be a one-off or part of a third US tour for Two Suns. Maybe that is the problem; three US tours supporting one album is a lot and not everyone wants to overexpose themselves like mgmt and justice.

dorkfish
12-08-2009, 04:56 AM
Steve Aoki will be in Miami on Saturday April 17th, 2010, so there's a chance that he won't make it to the Polo Fields.

Boourns
12-08-2009, 05:01 AM
Steve Aoki will be in Miami on Saturday April 17th, 2010, so there's a chance that he won't make it to the Polo Fields.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/frankatcoachella/005_professor.png

liquidsnake28
12-08-2009, 06:13 AM
they've said it is gonna be "grungier" than anything they've done...

The grungiest album yet from a Christian band, oh I can't wait! It's gonna be raw bro!

ballroomdancer22
12-08-2009, 01:44 PM
Heath Ledger

hawkingvsreeve
12-08-2009, 01:53 PM
Dead person jokes.

ballroomdancer22
12-08-2009, 01:54 PM
i prefer poop jokes, but this thread lent itself to dead person jokes

paulthomasanderson
12-08-2009, 01:57 PM
Heath Ledger

:nono

psycobetabuckdown
12-08-2009, 02:08 PM
1) Well that's probably an aesthetic taste difference we have then, because I find whatever kind of arena/glamish rock they now do to be more annoying than their old stuff. And I'd argue that the gay community is more of a fan of their newer music (or at least their new hair cuts and attire), but I'm assuming you use that word in an attempt to connote an undesirable quality.

Correct on all accounts. I wasn't saying their old stuff was annoying, just boring and unimaginative, like Jet and Wolfmother. Music should be forward-thinking, and KoL are finally doing that, even if they're hella pop now.


2) I've never been briefed on the ideal level of joy a hipster should have, but when I saw KoL I did drunkenly sing along to Sex on Fire in a mass crowd of frat-boy fist pumping. I agree it would be hard not to find yourself singing along to that one, unless you were really making a conscious effort to have a bad time, which seems counterproductive if you're at a show to begin with.
Yes! That's all I was saying. People and their hyperbole. The second a band is on the radio people pretend not to like any of it. Look at all the Phoenix hate in the last couple days for another example. If anything we should be happy for Phoenix, but no, because they're not Animal Collective they don't deserve radio play.

Leeartlee
12-08-2009, 02:19 PM
I had never really listened to KoL before '07. I thought their set was exactly like the post said above:


a mediocre rock band, but certainly nothing worse

HAMMERHEAD
12-08-2009, 02:30 PM
a mediocre rock band with arguably the most annoying vocalist on the planet?

malcolmjamalawesome
12-08-2009, 02:31 PM
Heath Ledger

I like when noobs do this.

paulthomasanderson
12-08-2009, 02:34 PM
a mediocre rock band with arguably the most annoying vocalist on the planet?

That would be the Smashing Pumpkins...I mean Billy Corgan and Three Other People You Don't Give A Shit About.

PJandBompton
12-08-2009, 02:36 PM
The grungiest album yet from a Christian band, oh I can't wait! It's gonna be raw bro!

A Christian band? they might be preachers son but there is nothing Christian about the music. and don't fucking call me bro.

sonofhal
12-16-2009, 05:15 AM
No Laura Marling.



UK Tour April 2010

UK get ready, here's some tour dates for you for Spring 2010...

09 - Belfast, Limelight
10 - Dublin, The Academy
12 - Manchester, Lowry
13 - Glasgow, Fruitmarket
14 - Edinburgh, Queen's hall
16 - Birmingham, Alexandra Theatre
17 - Cambridge, Corn Exchange
19 - Newcastle, Tyne Theatre
20 - York, Opera House
21 - Bristol, Colston Hall
23 - Southampton, Guildhall
25 - London, Palladium

malcolmjamalawesome
12-16-2009, 05:20 AM
No Laura Marling.

Shucks. I bet she was on a lot of people's "Who the fuck is Laura Marling?" lists.

sonofhal
12-16-2009, 05:30 AM
Yeah, she only has 5 million plays on Last FM. I'll only post 10 million + artists tour info in future.

malcolmjamalawesome
12-16-2009, 05:37 AM
I live in a box, sir.

MissingPerson
12-16-2009, 05:55 AM
Sucks for Coachella. Win for Gemma though.

Chaplipman
12-16-2009, 06:05 AM
Shucks. I bet she was on a lot of people's "Who the fuck is Laura Marling?" lists.

Lulz was had. Thank you.

Sigur Ros Stache
12-16-2009, 06:43 AM
Scissor Sisters will NOT be playing 2010 :(

sbessiso
12-16-2009, 07:02 AM
Scissor Sisters will NOT be playing 2010 :(

FUCK YOU!

why why why?

Didnt you tell them I had an incurable disease and my last dying wish was to see them at coachella next year?

i was so certain they were gunna be there

rskapcat
12-16-2009, 07:17 AM
When I saw this...


Scissor Sisters will NOT be playing 2010 :(

I knew this would be the next post...


FUCK YOU!

why why why?

Didnt you tell them I had an incurable disease and my last dying wish was to see them at coachella next year?

i was so certain they were gunna be there

drewoftherushes
12-16-2009, 07:39 AM
Shucks. I bet she was on a lot of people's "Who the fuck is Laura Marling?" lists.

That was funny. But no, really, she's really good, would have been awesome.

sbessiso
12-16-2009, 09:14 AM
When I saw this...



I knew this would be the next post...

:mad:

Its awfully upsetting. Theyre probably going to play a festival I wont be able to attend.

rskapcat
12-16-2009, 09:16 AM
It is. I would love to see Scissor Sisters.

Monklish
12-16-2009, 09:17 AM
Hi fags.

sbessiso
12-16-2009, 09:19 AM
Maybe Lolla? God, it better not be Bonnaroo. I'll cry a million tears

rskapcat
12-16-2009, 09:22 AM
The more you kids post about 'Roo, the more it looks like my nightmare. Glasto, too. But I hope SS play somewhere you're going. :)

Sigur Ros Stache
12-18-2009, 04:58 AM
FUCK YOU!

why why why?

Didnt you tell them I had an incurable disease and my last dying wish was to see them at coachella next year?

i was so certain they were gunna be there

Hey there, then, now for crying in the mud...don't shoot the messenger.

Reason is they are going a different approach this time around touring. Ta-Dah's tour started before the album ever was released and it affected ticket sales (at least in the US it did.) This time they want album IN HAND before any touring is to commence. With that being said one will assume that the tentative release date for the new album (which was supposed to be March) has now been pushed back til May or June (after Coachella.)

How do I know this? Scott Hoffman is a friend of mine and knows how much I love Coachella therefore when i asked him he told me.

Im just the messenger but if you're a really hot hairy guy, you can fuck me.
:)

and Monklish...DUH! Ive been around the boards long enough that most folks know im a ***, queer, queen, bear, gay, homo...whatever.

captncrzy
12-18-2009, 06:45 AM
Damn. Bummer.

MarkO
12-18-2009, 06:48 AM
a mediocre rock band with arguably the most annoying vocalist on the planet?


The Killers ??

far gone and out
12-18-2009, 07:43 AM
ta-dah sucked. let's hope that the recover from that disaster.

Foucault
12-18-2009, 09:50 AM
Hey Breeder!


Hi fags.

Foucault
12-18-2009, 09:51 AM
love to you...


Hey there, then, now for crying in the mud...don't shoot the messenger.

Reason is they are going a different approach this time around touring. Ta-Dah's tour started before the album ever was released and it affected ticket sales (at least in the US it did.) This time they want album IN HAND before any touring is to commence. With that being said one will assume that the tentative release date for the new album (which was supposed to be March) has now been pushed back til May or June (after Coachella.)

How do I know this? Scott Hoffman is a friend of mine and knows how much I love Coachella therefore when i asked him he told me.

Im just the messenger but if you're a really hot hairy guy, you can fuck me.
:)

and Monklish...DUH! Ive been around the boards long enough that most folks know im a ***, queer, queen, bear, gay, homo...whatever.

MissingPerson
12-18-2009, 01:30 PM
If you type your comment before the relevant quote, your post will make no sense.

People will be scrolling down to your post, and then back up to your comment, and then we might as well be savages shitting in the street. No.

Foucault
12-18-2009, 01:53 PM
I beg to differ.


If you type your comment before the relevant quote, your post will make no sense.

People will be scrolling down to your post, and then back up to your comment, and then we might as well be savages shitting in the street. No.

rskapcat
12-18-2009, 02:43 PM
Rufus Wainwright.

April 2010
Tuesday, 13th LONDON at Sadler’s Wells
Thursday, 15th GLASGOW at Royal Concert Hall
Friday, 16th EDINBURGH at Usher Hall
Saturday, 17th SHEFFIELD at City Hall
Monday, 19th GATESHEAD at The Sage
Tuesday, 20th BIRMINGHAM at Symphony Hall
Thursday, 22nd MANCHESTER at Apollo
Friday, 23rd BRISTOL at Colston Hall
Sunday, 25th NOTTINGHAM at Royal Concert Hall
Monday, 26th OXFORD at New Theatre
Thursday, 29th IPSWICH at Regent Theatre

malcolmjamalawesome
12-18-2009, 02:45 PM
If you type your comment before the relevant quote, your post will make no sense.

People will be scrolling down to your post, and then back up to your comment, and then we might as well be savages shitting in the street. No.

O3ZOKDmorj0

sbessiso
12-23-2009, 04:36 AM
Hey there, then, now for crying in the mud...don't shoot the messenger.

Reason is they are going a different approach this time around touring. Ta-Dah's tour started before the album ever was released and it affected ticket sales (at least in the US it did.) This time they want album IN HAND before any touring is to commence. With that being said one will assume that the tentative release date for the new album (which was supposed to be March) has now been pushed back til May or June (after Coachella.)

How do I know this? Scott Hoffman is a friend of mine and knows how much I love Coachella therefore when i asked him he told me.

Im just the messenger but if you're a really hot hairy guy, you can fuck me.
:)

and Monklish...DUH! Ive been around the boards long enough that most folks know im a ***, queer, queen, bear, gay, homo...whatever.

Ill shoot the messenger, ill shoot all over his face.

Thank you for the news, I can respect that approach. But the album is pushed back AGAIN? Jesus, this better be a fucking masterpiece. The other day I tried for the billionth time to listen to "Ta-Dah!" and I just cant even get through half of it

So whats gunna be my gay band of Coachella 2010???

obzen
12-23-2009, 06:55 AM
Placebo would be cool. Ugh, but it's probably Rammstein.

sbessiso
12-23-2009, 07:45 AM
Is Rammstein gay?

obzen
12-23-2009, 07:58 AM
Hardcore gay.

sbessiso
12-23-2009, 07:59 AM
Youre lying

obzen
12-23-2009, 08:02 AM
1:10...
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sbessiso
12-23-2009, 08:08 AM
I fucking love that movie!

MZAiOHn2xVo

yeahfontaine
12-23-2009, 08:31 AM
Scissor Sisters will NOT be playing 2010 :(

That is SUCH sad news. I was really counting on a reunion of all the Scissors-lovers from the 2006 dance party. Shit!!!

And I can't believe they're pushing back the album release again, either. They've been posting those teaser vids and shit on their website for MONTHS. Dammit.

EDIT: Thanks for the info, though.
And bye the bye, I LOVE Ta-Dah! Take another listen, folks.

nbvcide
12-23-2009, 08:54 PM
I fucking love that movie!


ME TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Sigur Ros Stache
12-24-2009, 08:30 AM
That is SUCH sad news. I was really counting on a reunion of all the Scissors-lovers from the 2006 dance party. Shit!!!

And I can't believe they're pushing back the album release again, either. They've been posting those teaser vids and shit on their website for MONTHS. Dammit.

EDIT: Thanks for the info, though.
And bye the bye, I LOVE Ta-Dah! Take another listen, folks.

I love Ta-Dah! also but it wasn't very well received. Kiss you Off is an all time favorite on it for me.

psycobetabuckdown
12-24-2009, 08:34 AM
So whats gunna be my gay band of Coachella 2010???

Well you're gonna get Jonsi from Sigur Ros, he's a flamer. As far as bands go I guess you'll have to watch Faith No More, the keyboardist takes roddies in his bottum.

obzen
12-24-2009, 08:37 AM
As far as bands go I guess you'll have to watch Faith No More, the keyboardist takes roddies in his bottum.Clever.

yeahfontaine
12-24-2009, 12:41 PM
New vid on Scissor Sisters site. Jake is SOOOO cute! Being all politically correct and wishing us a happy Kwanzaa and shit...

www.scissorsisters.com

And he says 2010 will be a crazy year for Scissors and that he'll see us out on the road. I'm going to take that as a direct order to not count them out for Coachella this year. If we believe, the Scissor Sisters will appear...(likely in see-thru, sparkly, fabulous outfits, no less...)

fiopadp7791
12-24-2009, 12:50 PM
New vid on Scissor Sisters site. Jake is SOOOO cute! Being all politically correct and wishing us a happy Kwanzaa and shit...

www.scissorsisters.com

And he says 2010 will be a crazy year for Scissors and that he'll see us out on the road. I'm going to take that as a direct order to not count them out for Coachella this year. If we believe, the Scissor Sisters will appear...(likely in see-thru, sparkly, fabulous outfits, no less...)

They were a very nice alternative to Tool at the outdoor stage in 2006. I'd love to see them again too.

TickleMeElmo
12-24-2009, 01:28 PM
No Owl City thank god. Tour dates conflict and already has an LA date in early April.

paulthomasanderson
12-24-2009, 02:56 PM
It would've never happened. The crowd he would've brought in would've been atrocious.

sbessiso
12-24-2009, 07:06 PM
I love Ta-Dah! also but it wasn't very well received. Kiss you Off is an all time favorite on it for me.

Man, I have seriously been trying to get into that album since it was released. It just sounds like them trying to be something else


Well you're gonna get Jonsi from Sigur Ros, he's a flamer. As far as bands go I guess you'll have to watch Faith No More, the keyboardist takes roddies in his bottum.

ehhhhhh I dont like my options so far

obzen
12-24-2009, 08:30 PM
You don't have to like your options, you're just going to have to get used to them.

captncrzy
12-27-2009, 09:25 AM
Dani confirmed in chat last night that Radiohead is not playing. Just in case any fanboys were hanging onto some hope.

AshtonKutcher
12-27-2009, 09:27 AM
^ You mean Demi?

newalias
12-27-2009, 09:30 AM
o rly?! ^>^

obzen
12-27-2009, 09:31 AM
If PF knows for certain that Radiohead will not be there, perhaps it's because she knows Thom Yorke will be.

Boourns
12-27-2009, 09:45 AM
Radiohead won't be there because they will be working on the next album, nor will they be anywhere except for a one-off at Glastonbury ;)

obzen
12-27-2009, 10:14 AM
I'm straight on Glasto.

Now if David Bowie played...

psycobetabuckdown
12-27-2009, 11:22 AM
ehhhhhh I dont like my options so far

http://api.ning.com/files/Bi*lUqK-ZJ-aKYHuMJZ0cTxKjkfrsiwAr5OlCuy24NyajuG3aW9D2SDLn7FCN n9I12S83U6N6sfsNqlSs*12N7ppWBOQPmC1/931004MMRoddy.jpg

If you can't get behind this I'm not sure you really like to "get behind" as much as you pretend.

MissingPerson
12-27-2009, 11:25 AM
Maybe Owen Pallett will finally play and we'll all win.

suprefan
12-27-2009, 11:40 AM
Radiohead won't be there because they will be working on the next album, nor will they be anywhere except for a one-off at Glastonbury ;)

No shows for 2010, means no shows for 2010.



Dani confirmed in chat last night that Radiohead is not playing. Just in case any fanboys were hanging onto some hope.


doesnt matter to me, 2011 will be a different year.

TBrown33
12-27-2009, 12:16 PM
I'm not a Kings of Leon fan (I also don't actively hate on the band as many do), but the song "Closer" is goddamn fucking incredible.

cristóbal
12-27-2009, 12:33 PM
No Owl City thank god. Tour dates conflict and already has an LA date in early April.

Praise the lord. That guy is lame as fuck.

Pixies have an empty space between march (australia dates) and may (spain dates). So you're sayin there's a chance..

obzen
12-27-2009, 12:37 PM
Yeah, Ima say it right now, I like Radiohead's odds for Coachella in 2011.

Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Daft Punk/David Bowie/The Smiths/Led Zeppelin/Talking Heads.

paulthomasanderson
12-27-2009, 12:55 PM
Dani confirmed in chat last night that Radiohead is not playing. Just in case any fanboys were hanging onto some hope.

I don't know who would even have thought they had any chance of playing some one-off show in 2010 at Coachella. It's Thom Yorke. And maybe she should debunk any Daft Punk hopes for 2010.

psycobetabuckdown
12-27-2009, 01:21 PM
I'm not a Kings of Leon fan (I also don't actively hate on the band as many do), but the song "Closer" is goddamn fucking incredible.

Yes, that song is ridiculous. I love it. I didn't realize I loved it until last week.

sbessiso
12-27-2009, 05:16 PM
http://api.ning.com/files/Bi*lUqK-ZJ-aKYHuMJZ0cTxKjkfrsiwAr5OlCuy24NyajuG3aW9D2SDLn7FCN n9I12S83U6N6sfsNqlSs*12N7ppWBOQPmC1/931004MMRoddy.jpg

If you can't get behind this I'm not sure you really like to "get behind" as much as you pretend.

what exactly am I supposed to be getting behind?

getbetter
12-27-2009, 06:30 PM
Flock of seagulls and When in Rome

Grant
12-27-2009, 06:33 PM
Yeah, Ima say it right now, I like Radiohead's odds for Coachella in 2011.

Coachella 2011: Arcade Fire/Kings of Leon, Neil Young, Radiohead.

psycobetabuckdown
12-27-2009, 06:51 PM
what exactly am I supposed to be getting behind?

he's eye candy and if you can't see that then you're blind

obzen
12-27-2009, 07:00 PM
...what the fuck just happened right now?

sbessiso
12-28-2009, 02:14 AM
he's eye candy and if you can't see that then you're blind

Could you have chosen a better picture? Nothing about that one says "Eye Candy". Are you sure you got the right pic?

getbetter
12-28-2009, 02:18 AM
i thought of a better band to put Blind Melon

psycobetabuckdown
12-28-2009, 10:01 AM
Could you have chosen a better picture? Nothing about that one says "Eye Candy". Are you sure you got the right pic?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1103/25392709.jpg

sbessiso
12-28-2009, 12:24 PM
Thats definitely Eye Candy

if today was opposite day

nationocean
12-28-2009, 12:57 PM
http://blog.silive.com/entertainment_impact_music/2007/10/large_10-11music-.jpg

Roddy was hot back in the 90's.. he's the guy on the left obv.

psycobetabuckdown
12-28-2009, 01:05 PM
Thats definitely Eye Candy

See? What did I tell you?


if today was opposite day

Oh...I see what you did there.

sbessiso
12-28-2009, 02:32 PM
Speaking of FNM, if you looked up "sleazebag" in the dictionary im pretty sure Mike Patton comes up

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q57/BearlyP/MikePatton5.jpg

psycobetabuckdown
12-28-2009, 05:56 PM
I can't see that image. Is he fucking a child?

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
12-28-2009, 05:59 PM
i thought there were pictures around of Patton looking like a handsome gentlemen, but no, you're right. Every image that comes up confirms that he is indeed a sleazebag hahaha

psycobetabuckdown
12-28-2009, 06:13 PM
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Mike_Patton-12834.jpg

Come on, if I was gay I'd hit this.

psycobetabuckdown
12-28-2009, 06:13 PM
http://www.carlamusic.com/gallery/albums/people/DSC00491.jpg

Why the FUCK is he a Laker fan? What a pussy.

obzen
12-28-2009, 06:31 PM
You're whack.

And why are you guys talking about Faith No More in this thread?

malcolmjamalawesome
12-28-2009, 06:31 PM
You're whack.

And why are you guys talking about Faith No More in this thread?

Because order packed its bags and left Rumor/Gossip weeks ago.

sbessiso
12-29-2009, 04:30 AM
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/membre_groupe/photo/Mike_Patton-12834.jpg

Come on, if I was gay I'd hit this.

Maybe if I was a crackhead looking for a hit

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/IMG/jpg/news-mike_patton.jpg