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comiddle
06-14-2009, 11:15 AM
Has anyone else been following the Iran Election and ensuing protests?

It's ridiculous how big of an event this is, yet there is little to no North American news source covering this story. I've had to check twitter updates for news.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10264398-2.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Webware
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/the-revolution-will-be-twittered-1.html
http://renjie.posterous.com/twitterers-posting-from-inside-iran-via-reddi
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/bahramks/RiotsInTehran#5346880450519326082
http://hashtags.org/tag/iranelection/messages
WucKqIJhIOU&eurl

comiddle
06-14-2009, 11:20 AM
dSECAvBTanQ

anti-square
06-14-2009, 11:25 AM
If your being a douche on a motorcycle, you deserve what happens.

summerkid
06-14-2009, 11:35 AM
Fareed Zakaria was doing a good job covering it this morning on CNN.

gaypalmsprings
06-14-2009, 11:37 AM
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/07/14/iran-1.jpg

gaypalmsprings
06-14-2009, 11:37 AM
http://www.iranian.com/Satire/Cartoon/2005/February/Images/kit.jpg

marooko
06-14-2009, 11:39 AM
Fareed Zakaria was doing a good job covering it this morning on CNN.

i use to really enjoy reading this guys stuff. havent in a while, i wonder if its changed. it seemed to me he actually reported and made his "opinions" clear, as opposed to making them sound like fact.

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 11:46 AM
I love his editorials in Newsweek. Such a good writer.

BlackSwan
06-14-2009, 11:47 AM
I was wondering why the only place I heard about this was on the Daily Show and Colbert Report.

tessalasset
06-14-2009, 11:48 AM
i read about this on the front page, above the fold, of the new york times friday and saturday morning.

comiddle
06-14-2009, 11:53 AM
"NBC in Tehran raided, cameras and Equipment confiscated. BBC told to get out Iran immediately."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/13/iran-demonstrations-viole_n_215189.html

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 12:02 PM
Apparently a few BBC reporters were briefly detained while doing their jobs. Hmmmmmmmm, there's an industry wide effort to put the kibosh on reporters right before an election many suspect was rigged... hmmmmmmmmmmm...

mvanwinkle
06-14-2009, 12:12 PM
people are too preoccupied worrying about john and Kate plus 8 and brad and angelina to even realize whats going on past the fucking tabloids.

unknown
06-14-2009, 12:26 PM
who the fuck is john and kate?

edit: that is a rhetorical question, I really don't give a shit.

back to the topic - I haven't been following at all but am interested to look into now because this seems pretty big. Ever since I moved back to San Diego from Tucson I haven't followed as much world news and current events. I use to get a lot of my info from NPR which was terrific in Tucson. Out here NPR fucking sucks.

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 12:27 PM
Every time I'm at the grocery store it baffles me that people are so infatuated with such mindless drivel. People & US magazine, ugg.

Either way, seeing as a free press is paramount in any functional democratic process, one can only assume that shenanigans are afoot if the government is trying to silence that press.

And I'm a little surprised that Fox News has't really taken this opportunity to rally their base by carrying on about the unstable, terror loving, freedom hating, etc. Middle East.

comiddle
06-14-2009, 12:32 PM
I'm really impressed with how effective Twitter is as a news source.
However, it's not overly reliable. I've been looking for proof of these rumoured tanks on the streets for about an hour and haven't found visual proof. Rumour of Khatami and Mousavi being arrested as well, yet nothing reliable.

I'd like a reliable source to back these up instead of going on the massive number of RT. It's mostly turned into noise on the feeds now...

comiddle
06-14-2009, 12:33 PM
Rumours: http://sambrook.typepad.com/sacredfacts/2009/06/iran-rumours-everywhere.html

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 12:34 PM
Do they not have camera phones in Tehran?

I like how text messages haven't been working in Iran for the past few days as well.

And I just explained why it wouldn't matter :nono Real slick.

MissingPerson
06-14-2009, 03:04 PM
Was watching the BBC news yesterday. Police were trying to shut the reporters down. Crowd promptly told the cops where the fuck to go. It was cool.

Kick ass, John Simpson.

Twitter has come into it's own more than ever expected in this and in a few other events, aside from it's obvious limitations. I was keeping an eye on it from my phone at work and was no wiser by the end of the day what the actual protests were for or against. 140 characters doesn't allow for much detail...

MissingPerson
06-14-2009, 03:24 PM
http://twitter.com/persiankiwi


if march goes ahead tomorrow the gov will be powerless to act. they cannot kill millions. #Iranelection

JustSteve
06-14-2009, 04:03 PM
people are too preoccupied worrying about john and Kate plus 8 and brad and angelina to even realize whats going on past the fucking tabloids.

madonna was just approved to adopt another malawi orphan!

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 04:07 PM
[holy fuck]From the same twitter[/holy fuck]


dawn is breaking. can hear prayers from mosques. #Iranelection
7 minutes ago from web

occasionally hear gunshots in distance. no idea where. seems to be all over city. just like 79. #Iranelection
11 minutes ago from web

everytime i press refresh, system cuts out. no incoming at all. crazy. #Iranelection
15 minutes ago from web

internet very slow. dialup only. no facebook, no bbc, cnn nothing. even arab stations blocked. #Iranelection
17 minutes ago from web

have lost mobile contact in university dorm. cannot recoonect. cannot get info. #Iranelection
19 minutes ago from web

moussavi demo at 4pm this afternoon in 19 cities announced. expect millions. #Iranelection
24 minutes ago from web

this will not stop. #Iranelection
26 minutes ago from web

4am and people still on streets and rooftops shouting 'death to the dictator'. #Iranelection
27 minutes ago from web

students being killed in tehran uni dorm in amirabad right now. this must stop, ahmadinejad must stop. #Iranelection
30 minutes ago from web

apparently there is running battles in tehran uni right now. i can hear shooting on the phone line. #Iranelection
34 minutes ago from web

gov trying to arrest all people suspected in organising demo tomorrow and strike on tuesday. #Iranelection
36 minutes ago from web

i have just been told that moussavihas called national strike on tuesday. #Iranelection
37 minutes ago from web

i am hearing that students beaten severly at tehran uni tonight. am speaking with someone on the scene now on mobile. #Iranelection
40 minutes ago from web

i am not sure if students killed in tehran uni dorm. unconfirmed that there was shooting heard there. no students seen. #Iranelection
44 minutes ago from web

tomorrow if army come we will greet them with roses. #Iranelection
about 1 hour ago from web

tehran university dorm has ben raided and hundreds of students arrested tonight. this is happening now. #Iranelection
about 1 hour ago from web

we have no satellite tv, internet is blocked to most sites, no texting at al and very limited mobile phone cover. #Iranelection
about 1 hour ago from web

tehran is like war zone. it is unbelievable. i have not seen this for 30 years. fires everywhere. shooting, people shouting. #Iranelection
about 1 hour ago from web

unconfirmed but I am hearing that many killed in tehran uni this evening. #Iranelection

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
06-14-2009, 04:07 PM
http://twitter.com/persiankiwi

Fuck yes.

TomAz
06-14-2009, 04:18 PM
i read about this on the front page, above the fold, of the new york times friday and saturday morning.

right. that's what I was about to say.

Wheres the beef?
06-14-2009, 04:30 PM
Well what do these people want? Do they want some one more hardline muslim or more pro western? And why hasn't the CIA intervened yet? Very odd........

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
06-14-2009, 04:31 PM
CIA got kicked out ages ago....

MissingPerson
06-14-2009, 04:33 PM
From inside the university?

http://twitter.com/Change_for_Iran


@Change_for_Iran: this isn't the police! police is still outside! we're under attack by Ansar-Hezbolah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar-e_Hezbollah). #iranelection

As I understand it, Ahmedinijad (spelled from memory, if it's right, I win a prize!) stole the election and is claiming a landslide. The younger, liberal student classes are rightly fucked off with this turn of events and are scrapping with the police, the militias, the army, the conservative bullyboy vigilantes, and anybody else who wants to have a go. They're passionate and they've got numbers on their side, but no organisation or co-ordination and the strike on the university might be the first of many to come. There seems to be a huge, widening gulf between the ruling old conservative interests and the young, hip university generation in Iran, which has all sorts of interesting results, and it seems to have come to a head.

Big march due tomorrow at 4pm local, whatever time that is here. That'll be worth keeping an eye on.

So yeah, I think we can safely root for the protestors.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
06-14-2009, 04:43 PM
sounds like a party....someone fly in RATM plz....

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 04:45 PM
Yikes.

Ryan, Moussavi is seen as a reformist and is very popular with the youth. People are pissed about Iran's economic state and blame the incumbent--surprise. Granted I don't know much about Moussavi's politics but he seems less dictatorial.

JebusLives
06-14-2009, 04:58 PM
Yikes.

Ryan, Moussavi is seen as a reformist and is very popular with the youth. People are pissed about Iran's economic state and blame the incumbent--surprise. Granted I don't know much about Moussavi's politics but he seems less dictatorial.

Of note, he wants to improve relations with the US. None of the candidates recognize the nation of Israel (that's their "gay marriage"), and they all support the nuclear program.

He was also their prime minister during the 80s.

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 10:10 PM
http://photos.upi.com/News/f43714c50dd8cdd73e07dced9ee01877/Post-Election-Riots-in-Iran.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/News/f4fa8155a44895bbd7472d22d96373e5/Post-Election-Riots-in-Iran.jpg

http://photos.upi.com/News/9462c9090540560dd85a0e1dcd626197/Post-Election-Riots-in-Iran.jpg

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 10:22 PM
Yep, Iran is the most stable country in the world...

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47499535.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47499546.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47499548.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47488587.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47488599.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47488632.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47486016.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47486024.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47486030.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47486032.jpg

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47486039.jpg

Still-ill
06-14-2009, 10:23 PM
yikes...

Wheres the beef?
06-14-2009, 10:26 PM
Whatever. I call that democracy. At least people there are going to stand up and do something about a stolen election (unlike here).

tessalasset
06-14-2009, 10:31 PM
i like how Ahmadinejad is likening the rioters to "passionate sports fans."

Still-ill
06-14-2009, 10:34 PM
i like how Ahmadinejad is likening the rioters to "passionate sports fans."

Like The Roma Ultra(violent)s

http://www.dirtytackle.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/romaultras.jpg

boarderwoozel3
06-14-2009, 11:13 PM
Whatever. I call that democracy. At least people there are going to stand up and do something about a stolen election (unlike here).
I'd say the difference is with either political party the average quality of life in the States is high enough for people to be apathetic. Iran had an 85% voter turnout. Obviously that's a massive number.

i like how Ahmadinejad is likening the rioters to "passionate sports fans."
Yeah, sports fans disobeying traffic signals and getting ticketed for it because they're excited after a big match. That guy has some balls.

And the Ultras are just nuts. Nothing like throwing politics in the mix for the Roma derby and watching things get really out of control.

BlackSwan
06-15-2009, 10:46 AM
I really hope Obama isn't too much of a pussy to do anything about this.

obzen
06-15-2009, 10:48 AM
Ahmadinejad had the rural vote but i think it was all fixed in any case event

marooko
06-15-2009, 10:52 AM
we should bomb them.

marooko
06-15-2009, 10:54 AM
Yep, Iran is the most stable country in the world...
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47499535.jpg


DUDE!!! are those rubber batons?! i fucking want one.

JebusLives
06-15-2009, 10:58 AM
I really hope Obama isn't too much of a pussy to do anything about this.

What should he do? They are, ultimately, a sovereign nation. Americans don't seem to care about their own voting irregularities.

I think this will play itself out without any need for intervention.

sonofhal
06-15-2009, 11:04 AM
we should bomb them.

Someone should bomb you.

BlackSwan
06-15-2009, 11:11 AM
What should he do? They are, ultimately, a sovereign nation. Americans don't seem to care about their own voting irregularities.

I think this will play itself out without any need for intervention.

Are you implying that America has never taken steps to interfere with the dealings of sovereign nations?

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 11:37 AM
This photo is depressing:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-06/47499535.jpg

Whereas this photo is awesome.

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/iranelect_06_15/i17_19370165.jpg


Some absolutely amazing photos here:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/irans_disputed_election.html

mountmccabe
06-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Whoah. That first one is cropped into an entirely different entity.

marooko
06-15-2009, 12:18 PM
Someone should bomb you.

YEAH!!!

marooko
06-15-2009, 12:19 PM
http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/iranelect_06_15/i17_19370165.jpg


Some absolutely amazing photos here:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/irans_disputed_election.html

maybe he shouldn't have been wearing that purse.

Sexecutioner
06-15-2009, 12:23 PM
wow, those pics are insane.

marooko
06-15-2009, 12:26 PM
we should go in and show them how its done.

http://www.phawker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/police-brutality.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2004/07/29/1091151169_8283.jpg

http://carolynbaker.net/site/images/police%20brutality.jpg

boarderwoozel3
06-15-2009, 12:30 PM
Whoah. That first one is cropped into an entirely different entity.

I got duped, hoodwinked, bamboozled! Thanks a lot, LA Times.

marooko
06-15-2009, 12:33 PM
hey, boarder, we're focusing on others people problems right now, not our own. save LA times hate for another lifetime.

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 12:41 PM
I hope those ladies totally fucking wailed on those cops.

They look very intent on doing so, at least.

boarderwoozel3
06-15-2009, 12:44 PM
hey, boarder, we're focusing on others people problems right now, not our own. save LA times hate for another lifetime.
:rolleyes



Apparently women and children got the business end of those batons as well. Bad news.

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 12:53 PM
I hear people around Tehran have taken to leaving their doors unlocked, so that protesters have somewhere to run.

Awesome if true.

boarderwoozel3
06-15-2009, 12:55 PM
That's a very selfless gesture given you're putting yourself at risk of the militia trying to come in after the protesters.

BlackSwan
06-15-2009, 12:57 PM
It's refreshing to see people who actually care about their democracy.

marooko
06-15-2009, 01:02 PM
hahahaha. too funny.

coldstart
06-15-2009, 01:06 PM
The Basij (paramilitary) fired and killed a protester so they lit the Basij building on fire. LOL GO PROTESTERS!!!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1184614595?bctid=26415347001

TomAz
06-15-2009, 01:16 PM
I didn't even realize Tehran had nuns.

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 01:17 PM
ANGRY ones.

marooko
06-15-2009, 01:24 PM
now we're talking!!!

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 01:26 PM
Sometimes Twitter is a fucking idiot.

Maintenance? Now? Really?

JebusLives
06-15-2009, 01:27 PM
Are you implying that America has never taken steps to interfere with the dealings of sovereign nations?

I'm implying that that's the reason we were all against the Iraq invasion. But don't read apathy into my statement - I am glued to this, and cheering them on.

marooko
06-15-2009, 01:30 PM
Sometimes Twitter is a fucking idiot.

Maintenance? Now? Really?

its a TARP!!

marooko
06-15-2009, 01:31 PM
I'm implying that that's the reason we were all against the Iraq invasion. But don't read apathy into my statement - I am glued to this, and cheering them on.

this is "D"ifferent.

BlackSwan
06-15-2009, 01:33 PM
now we're talking!!!

"You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything."

marooko
06-15-2009, 01:39 PM
you're talking a lot.....

wmgaretjax
06-15-2009, 01:42 PM
noise

marooko
06-15-2009, 01:46 PM
ambiance.

Wheres the beef?
06-15-2009, 03:13 PM
DUDE!!! are those rubber batons?! i fucking want one.

http://www.discreet-romance.com/images/products/DJ026905.jpg

marooko
06-15-2009, 03:22 PM
keep your personal life as such, blend.

ive been thinking of a time to get out your way so's we can meet. you're giving me second thoughts dude.

tessalasset
06-15-2009, 03:23 PM
persiankiwi foreign news reported us on twitter - we have too much ppl looking at us - #Iranelection

...

mountmccabe
06-15-2009, 03:55 PM
Sometimes Twitter is a fucking idiot.

Maintenance? Now? Really?

Twitter has rescheduled their maintenance (http://mashable.com/2009/06/15/twitter-iran-election/) so that they can keep communicating.

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 04:01 PM
I rescind my earlier scorn. Sorry Twitter - yer alright.

Aurgasm
06-15-2009, 04:13 PM
I was wondering why the only place I heard about this was on the Daily Show and Colbert Report.

try reading.

Sexecutioner
06-15-2009, 04:13 PM
Twitter has rescheduled their maintenance (http://mashable.com/2009/06/15/twitter-iran-election/) so that they can keep communicating.

thats pretty awesome of them.

boarderwoozel3
06-15-2009, 04:22 PM
persiankiwi foreign news reported us on twitter - we have too much ppl looking at us - #Iranelection

...

When MP first posted this twitter account yesterday I noticed they had about 1,400 followers. It's now over 15,000.

BlackSwan
06-15-2009, 04:23 PM
try reading.

Context... it's important. I was referring to television coverage, but continue to troll me (and Randy) in your quest to become relevant.

Aurgasm
06-15-2009, 04:25 PM
an old buddy of mine has a good site for those interested in the middle east.

www.juancole.com (http://www.juancole.com)

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 04:26 PM
@Change_for_Iran has been conspicuously and unsettlingly silent.

Kind of cool to watch the internet go green.

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 05:32 PM
If you're a bit tech handy, and want to offer some help with proxies:

http://blog.austinheap.com/2009/06/15/how-to-setup-a-proxy-for-iran-citizens-for-windows/

boarderwoozel3
06-15-2009, 05:35 PM
@Change_for_Iran has been conspicuously and unsettlingly silent.

Kind of cool to watch the internet go green.
Tweeting is frowned down upon in Iranian detention centers.

MissingPerson
06-15-2009, 07:07 PM
Lhvm8Tj3UnY

marooko
06-15-2009, 08:32 PM
they protest different over there.

boarderwoozel3
06-15-2009, 09:10 PM
Most situations become much more intense after you introduce fire.

Aurgasm
06-15-2009, 09:34 PM
Most situations become much more intense after you introduce fire.

or water

marooko
06-16-2009, 06:58 AM
wind

TomAz
06-16-2009, 07:03 AM
ok you know what's coming right?

iknEJf9cPeY

paganman7
06-16-2009, 07:04 AM
Earth


edit: god damnit Tom.

marooko
06-16-2009, 07:05 AM
i was hoping for this guy.

http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/captainplanet.jpg

TomAz
06-16-2009, 07:27 AM
of course you were.

marooko
06-16-2009, 07:35 AM
yeah, man.

TomAz
06-16-2009, 07:37 AM
look at those muscles.

marooko
06-16-2009, 07:43 AM
yeah, man.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 07:58 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/12629820.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1245168889&Signature=I5gKvYC72GV7HzuL%2BTNhofJKyh8%3D

coldstart
06-16-2009, 07:59 AM
Reuters: "No journalist has permission to report or film or take pictures in the city."

marooko
06-16-2009, 08:02 AM
thats a surprise.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 08:09 AM
Ayatollah Montazeri has issued a statement saying "No sane mind can accept these results"

bug on your lip
06-16-2009, 08:45 AM
38 pics from the protests

intense pics

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/irans_disputed_election.html

coldstart
06-16-2009, 09:33 AM
Oh my god. It's bad today. More and more communication is shut off, more and more military is brought in.

(warning - graphic images)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXYvpJg_3OM
http://twitpic.com/7jy1u

Sexecutioner
06-16-2009, 09:40 AM
Oh my god. It's bad today. More and more communication is shut off, more and more military is brought in.

(warning - graphic images)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXYvpJg_3OM
http://twitpic.com/7jy1u

jesus christ, wtf is going on in that video? i cant tell if they were trying to help or hurt him? and that scream sends shivers down my spine. scary shit...

coldstart
06-16-2009, 09:44 AM
They are holding his neck, trying to hold in his blood.

marooko
06-16-2009, 09:45 AM
theres a lot i wanna write about this. just look.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1425/i3819379493.jpg

38
Defying an official ban, hundreds of thousands of Iranian supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi demonstrate in Tehran on Monday, June 15, 2009. (BEHROUZ MEHRI/AFP/Getty Images) #
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/irans_disputed_election.html#photo38

coldstart
06-16-2009, 09:53 AM
@Change_for_Iran: The government now saying our protests was in support of ahmadynezhad in state TV right now! these guys are unbelievable!

luckyface
06-16-2009, 10:00 AM
So I take it there has been more than one deaths involved with all of this? Man, this is just crazy. That video is intense. Giving my best to the Iranian people protesting their joke of a government.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 10:06 AM
Fuck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBp2p3MGJqw

coldstart
06-16-2009, 10:10 AM
@joeviyh: The US State Dept has asked Twitter to postpone their maint. again due to the critical function it's serving with Iran: http://is.gd/13E9Y

coldstart
06-16-2009, 10:15 AM
RT: Please, Change your Twitter Location to Tehran and your Time Zone to GMT +3.5.Help shield #IranElection and confuse Iranian censors!

The govt is seeking out people with Tehran set as their timezone and location to shut them down/censor them. Change yours so that they can't tell who is who.

marooko
06-16-2009, 10:20 AM
can someone please post the twitters that should be followed.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 10:24 AM
Don't follow new people who claim to be from Iran on twitter. Lots of government folks have signed up to spread misinformation. Here are my five main confirmed sources that I've been following for days: (I also have been posting tidbits: http://twitter.com/joeviyh)

http://twitter.com/persiankiwi
http://twitter.com/StopAhmadi
http://twitter.com/madyar
http://twitter.com/Change_for_Iran
http://twitter.com/NewIRAN

Also, @BreakingNews (http://twitter.com/BreakingNews) is posting Iran updates.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 10:26 AM
@StopAhmadi: NEWS: Another BIG confirmation that Mousavi got call 2AM on election night, was told he WON #gr88

wmgaretjax
06-16-2009, 10:28 AM
Fuck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBp2p3MGJqw

that is an old video. still insane, but not from the past few days.

marooko
06-16-2009, 10:44 AM
Don't follow new people who claim to be from Iran on twitter. Lots of government folks have signed up to spread misinformation. Here are my five main confirmed sources that I've been following for days: (I also have been posting tidbits: http://twitter.com/joeviyh)

http://twitter.com/persiankiwi
http://twitter.com/StopAhmadi
http://twitter.com/madyar
http://twitter.com/Change_for_Iran
http://twitter.com/NewIRAN

Also, @BreakingNews (http://twitter.com/BreakingNews) is posting Iran updates.

thank you.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 10:44 AM
There are "confirmed" reports of the army now starting to move in on protesters. More soon.

marooko
06-16-2009, 10:47 AM
jesus. some of these twitters are unreal.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 11:27 AM
RT IRAN: Al-Arabiya Reports an Interior Ministry Leak says Mousavi won 57% of votes cast http://bit.ly/cuGUl

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
06-16-2009, 11:36 AM
i was hoping for this guy.

http://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/captainplanet.jpg

Win.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2009, 11:37 AM
I don't see anything on Al-Arabiya about that.

Sexecutioner
06-16-2009, 11:40 AM
RT @Nyr7: Just finished coding a DDoS script, plz keep OPEN http://bit.ly/18ttN7 #gr88 #iranelection

awesome.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 11:53 AM
awesome.

If you are into DDoSing, there is also this:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dc4rpwn7_0g7xxc4d3

Have fun.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 11:55 AM
@StopAhmadi: NEWS: Another BIG confirmation that Mousavi got call 2AM on election night, was told he WON #gr88


RT IRAN: Al-Arabiya Reports an Interior Ministry Leak says Mousavi won 57% of votes cast http://bit.ly/cuGUl

Wow, if this is true and the incumbent fixed the election that brazenly, this could well end in a total public uprising and violent government overthrow. At the very least I think the worst is yet to come. Assuming the 57% number is true, the overwhelming majority of the urban population did indeed get shafted, know it, and are clearly enraged enough to do something about it. They would have been offered a democratic process in words only. Pissing off the messes like this is how revolutions start.

TomAz
06-16-2009, 12:04 PM
unfortunately people can bullshit in twitter as effectively as any other medium.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:08 PM
Mousavi himself said that he was told that he had won on election night. I can't confirm the second one from Al-Arabiya though.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2009, 12:10 PM
Mousavi himself said that he was told that he had won on election night. I can't confirm the second one from Al-Arabiya though.

This is meaningless without any more evidence unfortunately.

Sexecutioner
06-16-2009, 12:11 PM
looks like they are fighting fire with fire.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:14 PM
This is meaningless without any more evidence unfortunately.

I can confirm that Mousavi said that. To confirm the call actually took place, you would need to look at his phone records. This is the best information anyone has at this time, I'm just trying to relay that. kthxbye

TomAz
06-16-2009, 12:17 PM
I can confirm that Mousavi said that.

link?

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:24 PM
link?

Search youtube or google. It was reported all over.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:30 PM
@TehranBureau: five students killed in the dormitory. They were scheduled to go to one of Tehran's hospital this morning.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2009, 12:31 PM
Search youtube or google. It was reported all over.

everything i find is linked back to unsubstantiated twitter posts. not saying it didn't happen... but there is a lack of substantial (non-circumstantial) evidence.

TomAz
06-16-2009, 12:35 PM
Right, I can't find it reported on a single credible news source. I did find something on a site called therealnews.com but it's clearly hearsay.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 12:38 PM
Looks like Ahmadinejad pretty proficient at censoring media. Or it's simply too dangerous for journalists to be running around.

JustSteve
06-16-2009, 12:39 PM
This is meaningless without any more evidence unfortunately.

and the evidence is slips of paper with a name written on them...

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:39 PM
@BreakingNews: At least one person seriously injured after gunmen open fire at Mousavi supporters in Tehran, the Wall Street Journal reports.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:40 PM
and the evidence is slips of paper with a name written on them...

No, most of those were burned.

marooko
06-16-2009, 12:40 PM
well we need to get our reporters in there to report.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:42 PM
well we need to get our reporters in there to report.

The reporters were all kicked out.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 12:47 PM
Via @madyar: Demostration in silence in front of governmental TV station #iranelection

http://twitpic.com/7khen
http://twitpic.com/7khdm
http://twitpic.com/7khgt
http://twitpic.com/7khi0
http://twitpic.com/7khjc
http://twitpic.com/7khkw
http://twitpic.com/7khbr
http://twitpic.com/7khak
http://twitpic.com/7kh9a

marooko
06-16-2009, 01:03 PM
The reporters were all kicked out.

hmm. then who's writing all these twitters?

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 01:08 PM
Students, random Iranians... who knows?! That's the thing about twitter, there's no knowing for sure who you're following, ergo, they can only be as reputable as the source. But in this case no one really knows who that source is.

wmgaretjax
06-16-2009, 01:10 PM
out of all of the one's posted and disseminated so far, the only person I feel really comfortable suggesting to others is persiankiwi. their interest seems to be mostly in relaying what's going on in Tehran as accurately as possible and keeping lines of communication open with the outside world and between Iranians. less of the bullshit political hearsay from him/her/it.

marooko
06-16-2009, 01:19 PM
Students, random Iranians... who knows?! That's the thing about twitter, there's no knowing for sure who you're following, ergo, they can only be as reputable as the source. But in this case no one really knows who that source is.

are you the only one that knows this? you need to tell people.

humanoid
06-16-2009, 01:20 PM
I say this was all a masterfully orchestrated operation on Twitter's part. People like myself who had absolutely no prior interest in Twitter are now scouring the internet for tiny scraps of information in the form of 140 character tweets...dammit

coldstart
06-16-2009, 01:27 PM
hmm. then who's writing all these twitters?

Anyone can tweet. You, me, Bob Dole. Anyone. These tweets are coming from people inside of Iran around the proximity of the protests. Internet has been severely choked/filtered/cut off so it's really difficult for information to get out of the country right now.

bug on your lip
06-16-2009, 01:29 PM
hmm. then who's writing all these twitters?


pleez unplug your internets

marooko
06-16-2009, 01:32 PM
so what you're saying is, its gonna be difficult to prove a source reliable? and this is mainly because media was booted out, so the majority of happenings that we're hearing about are from regular joes? or, habibs, if you will? on top of that, other communications are being cut off as well, is this correct?

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 01:32 PM
pleez unplug your internets

Professor Joe says Italians are from Italy.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 01:39 PM
so what you're saying is, its gonna be difficult to prove a source reliable? and this is mainly because media was booted out, so the majority of happenings that we're hearing about are from regular joes? or, habibs, if you will? on top of that, other communications are being cut off as well, is this correct?

Yes, but a few have proven to be more consistent and reliable than others, mainly persiankiwi. They really seem to be a student that's freaking out and in quite a bit of danger.

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 01:40 PM
38 pics from the protests

intense pics

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/06/irans_disputed_election.html

Those are some powerful pictures.

marooko
06-16-2009, 01:42 PM
well i think its all bullshit. its just propaganda if its not delivered by our news media. im gonna stop following these twitters. fucking lies!!

marooko
06-16-2009, 01:45 PM
Those are some powerful pictures.

i only saw a few "powerful" pictures. the rest seemed to be an attempt at art. or this...

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5263/sharbatgula.png

bug on your lip
06-16-2009, 01:55 PM
i only saw a few "powerful" pictures. the rest seemed to be an attempt at art. or this...



why the fukk is this guy in here?

someone start a "Booger" thread to keep him busy

coldstart
06-16-2009, 01:56 PM
well i think its all bullshit. its just propaganda if its not delivered by our news media. im gonna stop following these twitters. fucking lies!!


i only saw a few "powerful" pictures. the rest seemed to be an attempt at art. or this...


Why don't you just stop being so negative or go troll another thread? You do realize that mainstream media isn't always right either? In fact, you may be better off reading twitter for two reasons: 1) they aren't reporting news which being backed my corporate interest (read: ad sponsorship) and 2) they are people actual on the fucking ground where this is happening as opposed to someone halfway around the world, safe and sound, in their news studio. Have a little respect for the people risking their lives to try and share tidbits of information with the rest of the world. If they get caught taking photos, sending email, etc, they can be arrested, beaten, or even killed.

marooko
06-16-2009, 02:02 PM
Why don't you just stop being so negative or go troll another thread?

this is how far i read.

id like to start off by saying; go fuck yourself. people were asking you for a legitimate source when there fucking isnt any. you get my point now? now post another fucking twitter comment and feel good about yourself for doing so.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:05 PM
this is how far i read.

id like to start off by saying; go fuck yourself. people were asking you for a legitimate source when there fucking isnt any. you get my point now? now post another fucking twitter comment and feel good about yourself for doing so.

You should read further. That is all.

marooko
06-16-2009, 02:06 PM
coulda, woulda, shoulda. but guess what.....?

and to clarify, my comment about our media was complete sarcasm. im sure you figured that out though.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:07 PM
@fgdorais (http://twitter.com/fgdorais) Reports of hundreds of Basij moving into Tehran university while Twitter down.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:08 PM
Looks like NYTimes also posted some photos: http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/dateline-2/index.html?src=twt&twt=nytimes

TomAz
06-16-2009, 02:10 PM
@fgdorais (http://twitter.com/fgdorais) Reports of hundreds of Basij moving into Tehran university while Twitter down.

how is he tweeting it if twitter is down?

bug on your lip
06-16-2009, 02:10 PM
you don't understand twitter old man

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:11 PM
coulda, woulda, shoulda. but guess what.....?

and to clarify, my comment about our media was complete sarcasm. im sure you figured that out though.

I'm not going to argue with some random douche on the Coachella board. I'm simply relaying information that I am pulling off of twitter to make it available to a wider audience. Do what you want with that.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:12 PM
how is he tweeting it if twitter is down?

Twitter just had a one hour maintenance window from 2-3pm PST. That was tweeted right after it came back up.

http://blog.twitter.com/2009/06/down-time-rescheduled.html

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:14 PM
@mitchellhirsch (http://twitter.com/mitchellhirsch) from McClatchy: Iran expels many foreign journalists http://tinyurl.com/lcyx2e a dangerous sign #iranelection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection)

marooko
06-16-2009, 02:15 PM
I'm not going to argue with some random douche on the Coachella board.

doing a good job of that.

i wasnt trying to argue.

bug on your lip
06-16-2009, 02:17 PM
great

he's still going

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:18 PM
doing a good job of that.

i wasnt trying to argue.

That's ok, just try a little harder next time. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:18 PM
I say this was all a masterfully orchestrated operation on Twitter's part. People like myself who had absolutely no prior interest in Twitter are now scouring the internet for tiny scraps of information in the form of 140 character tweets...dammit

You and me both. To this point the whole situation has been a spectacular political-cultural uprising seemingly made possible by social networking sites. Welcome to the 21st century indeed.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:21 PM
@mitchellhirsch (http://twitter.com/mitchellhirsch) from McClatchy: Iran expels many foreign journalists http://tinyurl.com/lcyx2e a dangerous sign #iranelection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection)

On Sat. or Sun. I read on one of the bigger news websites (cnn/bbc/something similar) a few BBC reporters were temporarily detained by gov't officials and a CNN office was raided. Sketchy.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:24 PM
Why don't you just stop being so negative or go troll another thread? You do realize that mainstream media isn't always right either? In fact, you may be better off reading twitter for two reasons: 1) they aren't reporting news which being backed my corporate interest (read: ad sponsorship) and 2) they are people actual on the fucking ground where this is happening as opposed to someone halfway around the world, safe and sound, in their news studio. Have a little respect for the people risking their lives to try and share tidbits of information with the rest of the world. If they get caught taking photos, sending email, etc, they can be arrested, beaten, or even killed.
So true. Traditional journalism has been tipped on it's head in the past few days. Technology is a trip.

marooko
06-16-2009, 02:25 PM
That's ok, just try a little harder next time. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.

hey look, i made a post. not only did i make a post, but buy quoting you, i essentially posted what someone else posted. im so fucking awesome.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:27 PM
hey look, i made a post. not only did i make a post, but buy quoting you, i essentially posted what someone else posted. im so fucking awesome.

Get over yourself.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:27 PM
For fuck's sake the both of you.

The future implications of this event have WWIII potential. Let's stay on topic.

(Am I saying that's what's going to happen? No. But all it takes is Israel to get involved somehow...)

paganman7
06-16-2009, 02:29 PM
you don't understand twitter old man



Sooooooooo sig worthy!

wmgaretjax
06-16-2009, 02:32 PM
I'm simply relaying information that I am pulling off of twitter to make it available to a wider audience.

It's called raising the noise floor.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:32 PM
@StopAhmadi: Stay tuned for insider news I received.. #gr88 #iranelection

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:33 PM
It's called raising the noise floor.

Exactly. That is what I am doing. The noise on twitter currently is much greater than what's posted here, believe you me :P

wmgaretjax
06-16-2009, 02:33 PM
Exactly. That is what I am doing. The noise on twitter currently is much greater than what's posted here, believe you me :P

Man... You are dense.

MissingPerson
06-16-2009, 02:35 PM
The effect of Twitter has been fairly amazing this time, but I can't imagine it being allowed again, anywhere in the world. Certainly not to the same scale. We're watching a one-off event, as it's going on.

Take it seriously, it won't happen again.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:35 PM
The funny thing is, if you turn on any network new such as CNN, MSNBC or FOX, they will all mention that they are getting info via twitter. So I don't see why you guys turn to network news as reliable when they are gathering info the same way.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:36 PM
Given the images that are coming out of Tehran I see no reason not to believe much of what we're hearing on certain Twitter pages.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:36 PM
Man... You are dense.

Then don't read this thread.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:39 PM
It's called raising the noise floor.


Man... You are dense.

With all due respect, that's bullshit. Post an unclear message and then pounce when its meaning is misinterperted? Right.

BlackSwan
06-16-2009, 02:41 PM
So, when is Obama going to repeal the Patriot Act?

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:41 PM
Ok, does anyone care about Iran or do we just want to have a typing fuck-fest?

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:42 PM
@dulceamargo (http://twitter.com/dulceamargo) RT: NEW footage of BASIJ in Tehran invading homes terrorizing ppl TONIGHT http://bit.ly/MKzXX #iranelection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection)

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:42 PM
The effect of Twitter has been fairly amazing this time, but I can't imagine it being allowed again, anywhere in the world. Certainly not to the same scale. We're watching a one-off event, as it's going on.

Take it seriously, it won't happen again.
I completely agree. Somewhere my old Communications prof is doing cartwheels of joy. She was all about twitter and it's power when it was just starting. And I blew it off...

marooko
06-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Get over yourself.

if i recall, you said you were gonna stop. still waiting for that. buddy.



For fuck's sake the both of you.

The future implications of this event have WWIII potential. Let's stay on topic.

(Am I saying that's what's going to happen? No. But all it takes is Israel to get involved somehow...)

fucking jews.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:45 PM
The effect of Twitter has been fairly amazing this time, but I can't imagine it being allowed again, anywhere in the world. Certainly not to the same scale. We're watching a one-off event, as it's going on.

Take it seriously, it won't happen again.

How would they prevent it? They have twitter blocked in Iran currently but people have still found ways to post messages, whether using proxy servers or satellite connections, etc. There isn't a good way to stop things and usually trying to censor things just gets it more publicity.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:45 PM
[quote=marooko;1255526]if i recall, you said you were gonna stop. still waiting for that. buddy.

Poop.

marooko
06-16-2009, 02:46 PM
if i recall, you said you were gonna stop. still waiting for that. buddy.

Poop.

you fucked up.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:47 PM
you fucked up.

Poopsex.

JebusLives
06-16-2009, 02:48 PM
Marooko, what the fuck? You seem determined to make this thread about you for some reason. Start another one.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:48 PM
@persiankiwi: our lives are in real danger now - we are the eyes - they need to stop us - #Iranelection

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 02:50 PM
@persiankiwi: our lives are in real danger now - we are the eyes - they need to stop us - #Iranelection

Wow. This is going to get worse before it gets better.

marooko
06-16-2009, 02:51 PM
Jebus, I'm not. I was making a point earlier, but sadly, sarcasm doesn't transfer well in to text. On top of that, cold won't stop quoting me, even though he/she (i genuinely don't know, I'm not trying to be a dick) said they were done arguing with me. Take note folks, coldstart is not a man/ woman of his/her word.

To stay on [thread] topic, I'm having a hard time concentrating on work while this is all unfolding.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:52 PM
@madyar: Check this video out -- shooting to people... I am so sorry . I am very sad http://bit.ly/Q3q16 #iraneleciton

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 02:53 PM
To stay on [thread] topic, I'm having a hard time concentrating on work while this is all unfolding.

I agree. So many people still have no idea that this is even unfolding.

BlackSwan
06-16-2009, 02:54 PM
I'm glad everyone is hanging on the tweets of persiankiwi. I am going to go start reporting from Iran as well... Follow me at AyatollahBeachQT69.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:54 PM
I agree. So many people still have no idea that this is even unfolding.

Yeah, it's shocking indeed. Pretty much no one else in my town knows, other than the fact that Ahmedinejad "won" the election and no one liked that result.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:56 PM
I'm glad everyone is hanging on the tweets of persiankiwi. I am going to go start reporting from Iran as well... Follow me at AyatollahBeachQT69.

You know, most people in the world are good people, trying to do the right thing, risking a lot of themselves trying to get the word out about a horrible dictator. And then there are people like you.

But, that is the nature of the internet and free speech. You are allowed to be a douche if you want.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 02:59 PM
Wow:

@globalmeeting (http://twitter.com/globalmeeting) #iranelection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection) help END the lies of protests confined to Tehran, vast rally centre of Isfahan TODAY , pass this on http://twitpic.com/7ki6e

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 02:59 PM
fucking jews.

They have been quite the point of contention for the past 70 years, haven't they?

But in all seriousness, pretend you're Israel:

You and Iran aren't exactly BFF to begin with. The incumbent president--the guy who said Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth, who is trying to get nukes on the sneak--apparently just thieved himself another term when the people of that country voted otherwise by an impressive margin, supposedly. If this devolves into all out civil war and your other BFF Hamas gets in the thick of things--if they aren't already--don't you want to ensure that Ahmadinejad does not return to power? Then if Israel get involved and all the Islamic countries start picking sides, there the US is, Israel's buddy, with a massive fighting force a hop skip and jump away in Iraq and Afghanistan. We sure as hell don't want Ahmadinejad either.

I recognize that this is quite a stretch but the dominoes are all there and oil is all over the place. This may well be the lit match...

BlackSwan
06-16-2009, 03:00 PM
You know, most people in the world are good people, trying to do the right thing, risking a lot of themselves trying to get the word out about a horrible dictator. And then there are people like you.

But, that is the nature of the internet and free speech. You are allowed to be a douche if you want.

Wow, you totally missed my point and came off quite douchey while doing it.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:02 PM
Wow, you totally missed my point and came off quite douchey while doing it.

Isn't "douche" a great word? It means "shower" in french.

TomAz
06-16-2009, 03:05 PM
So when you call someone 'douchey' you're actually saying they smell nice and clean.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:05 PM
Wow, go NYPost:

jmpopa (http://twitter.com/jmpopa) http://twitpic.com/7jw57 Classy coverage of #iranelection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection) from the New York Post. Front page today.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 03:05 PM
Oui, I've been giggling internally all quarter :)

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:05 PM
So when you call someone 'douchey' you're actually saying they smell nice and clean.

Something like that I suppose :P

TomAz
06-16-2009, 03:08 PM
Yeah, it's shocking indeed. Pretty much no one else in my town knows, other than the fact that Ahmedinejad "won" the election and no one liked that result.

Where do you live? this was all people talked about at lunch at work today. well this and the all star voting.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:14 PM
Where do you live? this was all people talked about at lunch at work today. well this and the all star voting.

SLO town.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:15 PM
@StopAhmedi: Src from polling station in Shiraz told when counting votes, majority was Mousavi #gr88 #iranelection

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:22 PM
RT From Iran: Vote recount going on now, too little too late. You cannot count burnt paper. #Iranelection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Iranelection)

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 03:23 PM
Geez, there are ~40 new comments evey 10 seconds at #Iranelection

Fast and furious.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:27 PM
Geez, there are ~40 new comments evey 10 seconds at #Iranelection

Fast and furious.

Yeah, it's been the #1 trending topic for the last few days straight.

BlackSwan
06-16-2009, 03:37 PM
So obviously the election was stolen... Who thinks something will actually be done about it? Or is all this tweeting for nothing?

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:39 PM
@oxfordgirl (http://twitter.com/oxfordgirl) BBC: 'Those who rule this country are rapidly loosing control'. #IranElection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IranElection) Opposition more in rally than Gov #IranElection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IranElection)

MissingPerson
06-16-2009, 03:40 PM
How would they prevent it? They have twitter blocked in Iran currently but people have still found ways to post messages, whether using proxy servers or satellite connections, etc. There isn't a good way to stop things and usually trying to censor things just gets it more publicity.

For one thing, I don't think we'll ever see this momentum again among the Twitter community. I think that's a one-off, zeitgeist thing that won't be as easy to generate in future.

But more importantly, the Iranian government were caught on the hop. They didn't foresee the Twitter thing coming and hadn't prepared any strategies for it. Aside from blocking proxies and choking web traffic or whatever, I'm sure you've seen the rumours about dividing the #hashtags to keep the subject out of trends or setting up fake accounts to spread misinformation.

A sparky imagination could probably come up with other ideas to throw in to generate more disruptive noise, and they'll certainly be trying to do just that next time something like this starts brewing.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:41 PM
So obviously the election was stolen... Who thinks something will actually be done about it? Or is all this tweeting for nothing?

They are waiting to see if the Ayatollah will actually recognize the fact that the election was a sham. He's the only one with the power to reverse it/call for new elections/whatever. Chances are, he will side with Ahmedinejad, at which point, I would expect even more protesting, more fierce combat until the pressure is too much and they are forced to overturn the results or risk losing all stability in the country, i.e. losing their power completely.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:44 PM
For one thing, I don't think we'll ever see this momentum again among the Twitter community. I think that's a one-off, zeitgeist thing that won't be as easy to generate in future.

But more importantly, the Iranian government were caught on the hop. They didn't foresee the Twitter thing coming and hadn't prepared any strategies for it. Aside from blocking proxies and choking web traffic or whatever, I'm sure you've seen the rumours about dividing the #hashtags to keep the subject out of trends or setting up fake accounts to spread misinformation.

A sparky imagination could probably come up with other ideas to throw in to generate more disruptive noise, and they'll certainly be trying to do just that next time something like this starts brewing.

You mention tactics that aren't working though. It's very hard to suppress information on a mass scale when we live in the information age. And I disagree with your first point. I think this is just the beginning of people realizing the potential of twitter. If anything, this brings it into the spotlight and people will know it's there for other uses in the future. There is no reason to think this won't happen again since it continues to gain more and more popularity. As far as web stuff goes, twitter is still in it's infancy.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:45 PM
@NewIran: RT From Iran : NEWS confirmed: Satellite dishes wr taken away fr ppl in Tehran #gr88 #iranelection

MissingPerson
06-16-2009, 03:46 PM
You mention tactics that aren't working though. It's very hard to suppress information on a mass scale when we live in the information age. And I disagree with your first point. I think this is just the beginning of people realizing the potential of twitter. If anything, this brings it into the spotlight and people will know it's there for other uses in the future. There is no reason to think this won't happen again since it continues to gain more and more popularity. As far as web stuff goes, twitter is still in it's infancy.

That would be cool. Very cool.

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 03:51 PM
So obviously the election was stolen... Who thinks something will actually be done about it? Or is all this tweeting for nothing?

I was wondering the same thing. How long can this last?

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:54 PM
Anyone in SF?

san francisco union square - 6-9pm tonight - spread the word #IranElection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23IranElection)

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:55 PM
I was wondering the same thing. How long can this last?

There is an "investigation" by the election board. It will be released in 8 days. That will be the decision point. Until then, pressure needs to be kept up so that they know the people are serious.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:57 PM
@Change_for_Iran: Government people are wearing green shirts destroying public properties at night & filming them & they all wear the same shirt!

coldstart
06-16-2009, 03:58 PM
@abcnews (http://twitter.com/abcnews) Time to go: ABC thrown out of Iran http://bit.ly/15KqDD #iranelection (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23iranelection)

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 04:01 PM
Wow, protesters shot in Eṣfahān, Iran. Images of human suffering, very moving.

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coldstart
06-16-2009, 04:03 PM
I'm watching BBC World News on PBS right now. They are reporting that the protester rallys were much bigger than yesterday. It's gaining momentum.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 04:06 PM
I was wondering the same thing. How long can this last?

That's the thing, I'm not sure, but I don't know if anyone knows. It's such a liquid situation. The massive protests could continue and eventually dwindle but people are already dying over this.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 04:08 PM
Slashdot just posted this:

Statistical Suspicions In Iran's Election
http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/06/16/2137203/Statistical-Suspicions-In-Irans-Election?from=rss

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 04:11 PM
That's the thing, I'm not sure, but I don't know if anyone knows. It's such a liquid situation. The massive protests could continue and eventually dwindle but people are already dying over this.

Yeah, I was kinda being rhetorical. This is all just so intense. I think things will get much much worse.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 04:13 PM
Slashdot just posted this:

Statistical Suspicions In Iran's Election
http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/06/16/2137203/Statistical-Suspicions-In-Irans-Election?from=rss

One of the biggest sticking points for me is the incumbent was announced the winner about 2 hours after the polls closed. That's about 40 million paper ballots in two hours.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I was kinda being rhetorical. This is all just so intense. I think things will get much much worse.

In a horrible sort of way, they kind of need to get worse. The only way to persuade this dictator/tyrannical government is with overwhelming force.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 04:17 PM
Hah! BBC World News is doing a piece right now on the importance of Twitter and the failed efforts of the Iranian government to block it.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 04:19 PM
Yeah, I was kinda being rhetorical. This is all just so intense. I think things will get much much worse.

Agreed.

A pundit on Keith Olberman said it best, IMO. At some point the government could attempt to use force to stifle the masses. And if that happens, the situation is going to get really ugly, ramifications unknown.

At the moment the government is pretty much ignoring the public outcry. It seems that's just making people even more pissed off as their opinions being neglected is what started all of this open discontent in the first place.

The whole thing is just incredible.

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 04:19 PM
Hah! BBC World News is doing a piece right now on the importance of Twitter and the failed efforts of the Iranian government to block it.

Awesome.

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 04:21 PM
Agreed.

A pundit on Keith Olberman said it best, IMO. At some point the government could attempt to use force to stifle the masses. And if that happens, the situation is going to get really ugly, ramifications unknown.

At the moment the government is pretty much ignoring the public outcry. It seems that's just making people even more pissed off as their opinions being neglected is what started all of this open discontent in the first place.

The whole thing is just incredible.

I agree. Was it Rachel Maddow who said that?

JustSteve
06-16-2009, 04:23 PM
In a horrible sort of way, they kind of need to get worse. The only way to persuade this dictator/tyrannical government is with overwhelming force.

you really think they can be persuaded?

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 04:24 PM
Some US Gov't Foreign Relations specialist who said he was in Tehran on election day and that people were dancing in the streets after voting.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 04:26 PM
you really think they can be persuaded?

I think by persuade they were implying physically removing him.

coldstart
06-16-2009, 04:27 PM
you really think they can be persuaded?

That's where the "overwhelming force" thing comes into play. If there is enough opposition, they have no choice but to listen or be physically thrown out. Leaders have no power without followers.

MissingPerson
06-16-2009, 04:28 PM
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/16/iran/

Interesting article.


Much of the same faction now claiming such concern for the welfare of The Iranian People are the same people who have long been advocating a military attack on Iran and the dropping of large numbers of bombs on their country -- actions which would result in the slaughter of many of those very same Iranian People. During the presidential campaign, John McCain infamously sang about Bomb, Bomb, Bomb-ing Iran. The Wall St. Journal published a war screed from Commentary's Norman Podhoretz entitled "The Case for Bombing Iran," and following that, Podhoretz said in an interview that he "hopes and prays" that the U.S. "bombs the Iranians." John Bolton and Joe Lieberman advocated the same bombing campaign, while Bill Kristol -- with typical prescience -- hopefully suggested that Bush might bomb Iran if Obama were elected. Rudy Giuliani actually said he would be open to a first-strike nuclear attack on Iran in order to stop their nuclear program.

Imagine how many of the people protesting this week would be dead if any of these bombing advocates had their way -- just as those who paraded around (and still parade around) under the banner of Liberating the Iraqi People caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of them, at least.

boarderwoozel3
06-16-2009, 04:32 PM
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/16/iran/

Interesting article.

There's no question that many--myself included--see this an an opportunity to neutralize a threat and that the people of Iran would essentially be doing some of the world's dirty work if they were able to oust Ahmadinejad.

P.S - "Ahmadinejad" is really hard to spell :/

Gribbz
06-16-2009, 04:33 PM
There's no question that many--myself included--see this an an opportunity to neutralize a threat and that the people of Iran would essentially be doing some of the world's dirty work if they were able to oust Ahmadinejad.

P.S - "Ahmadinejad" is really hard to spell :/

Just call him "The Doctor."

JustSteve
06-16-2009, 04:34 PM
copy and paste that shit

coldstart
06-16-2009, 04:38 PM
@persiankiwi: several arrests today after tracking thru twiter proxys - #Iranelection

@persiankiwi: news from tuesday::: our march was big success!! militia are now frightened of us - they know world is watching - #Iranelection

@persiankiwi: reliable source - Montazeri has withdrawn support from Khamenei - #Iranelection

MissingPerson
06-16-2009, 04:40 PM
So what's the latest advice on forwarding working proxies? DM to persiankiwi? Is persiankiwi reading DMs?

JewFace
06-16-2009, 04:40 PM
I hate to bring this down to a stupid micro-level with myself, but I'm 1/4 Persian (Parsi). I have a cousin in Tehran whom I was able to speak to today for the first time since the election. She's only lived there 5 years, but said she's never experienced anything like it. She said that despite the brutal killings of several protesters (more than we're hearing about, apparently) the energy there is amazing.

I have to say, I have such admiration for the people of Iran. I've done my fair share of marches/rallies/protests/sit-ins against the Iraq War and then later for Marriage Equality. But to literally be risking your life every day just to make sure that your vote is counted?

I know no one believes that Iran is going to get its Green Revolution the way Ukraine got its Orange Revolution. But, if they can sustain these demonstrations, they will make an impact.

BTW, print articles and updates on the situation are easy to find online. Any websites for video people would recommend other than YT and CNN?

coldstart
06-16-2009, 04:46 PM
I hate to bring this down to a stupid micro-level with myself, but I'm 1/4 Persian (Parsi). I have a cousin in Tehran whom I was able to speak to today for the first time since the election. She's only lived there 5 years, but said she's never experienced anything like it. She said that despite the brutal killings of several protesters (more than we're hearing about, apparently) the energy there is amazing.

I have to say, I have such admiration for the people of Iran. I've done my fair share of marches/rallies/protests/sit-ins against the Iraq War and then later for Marriage Equality. But to literally be risking your life every day just to make sure that your vote is counted?

I know no one believes that Iran is going to get its Green Revolution the way Ukraine got its Orange Revolution. But, if they can sustain these demonstrations, they will make an impact.

BTW, print articles and updates on the situation are easy to find online. Any websites for video people would recommend other than YT and CNN?

Liveleak.com is being used.