The Pitchfork News/reviews thread

[Still-ill]

The part where he sings:
We drove a bio-car
cuz we all love the earth
It didn't get us far
and always sounded like koalas
stuck out to me.

But, in all serious... Scarecrows on a Killer Slant is fucking colossal.

[miscorrections]

Scissor and Scarecrows... are my favorites, I think.

[buddy]

8.5 (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14008-plastic-beach/) for plastic beach

[seandlr]

Considering Demon Days got a 6.9, I'm going to be very shocked if Plastic Beach gets BNM'd. I'm gonna say 7.1

Holy shit was I wrong.

[dorkfish]

Yeah, I think Sisterworld is going to eventually win me over. It was much better on second listen. Scarecrows on a Killer Slant stuck out to me.
Yeah, that was the song that I first heard at Coachella that I was sold on.

[dorkfish]

Lala has Disc 2 of the Liars:

http://www.lala.com/#album/576742229586829945/Liars/Sisterworld_%28Deluxe%29

[stinkbutt]

wow how did Plastic Beach get 8.5 and Demon Days got 6.9?

[lunatic core]

wow how did Plastic Beach get 8.5 and Demon Days got 6.9?I think Plastic Beach fits in with pitchfork's style alot better. Aesthetically PB seems closer to the typical darlings you see popping up yearly on their top lists.

[PassiveTheory]

Alright, I'm just gonna sit here and eat crow.

[Gribbz]

8.5 (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14008-plastic-beach/) for plastic beach

Well, I was close. This doesn't really surprise me... seems like a lot of people like this album more than Demon Days.

[Still-ill]

8.5 (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14008-plastic-beach/) for plastic beach

Wow... that's surprising.

[Gribbz]

Not really.

[Still-ill]

Ok, rub it in...

[Gribbz]

Out of curiosity... why do you think it's surprising?

[Still-ill]

It doesn't really seem any better than the other Gorillaz records to me. Well not considerably at least.

[miscorrections]

I still think Demon Days is better.

[djandrews25]

I still think Demon Days is better.

Quite a bit better IMO.

[FoxeyLady]

I still can't decide if I like DD or PB better. They're just about even in my book.

[thestripe]

Neither one really matter. But Demon Days has Feels Good Inc. on it so I choose that one. There are some parts in the middle of Plastic Beach where I like what Albarn is doing, though.

[PagodasPinkPants]

No one seems to have discussed this but the new Pavement best of comp just got a 10.0:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14002-quarantine-the-past/

[stinkbutt]

of course they gave it a 10.0 how else would they have gotten them to play their festival

[pancakespancakes]

Yeah... I think the time has come in which I finally start listening to Gorillaz. Dang I'm slow.

[dorkfish]

No one seems to have discussed this but the new Pavement best of comp just got a 10.0:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14002-quarantine-the-past/
It's not that surprising when a re-issue gets a 10.0.

[FoxeyLady]

Didn't they give Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain a 10.0 as well?

[PotVsKtl]

Pitchfork sure hate BRMC. The new album isn't great but giving Baby 81 a 4.5 is balls.

[buddy]

i enjoy the new album more than baby 81. not great you're right. but an improvement after baby 81, which was a big disappointment after howl. though, i heard the songs were better live from that album.

[suprefan]

of course they gave it a 10.0 how else would they have gotten them to play their festival

Is this why LCD Soundsystem is probably going to get a 9 or better on their new album too?

[bluemamba]

The review doesn't surprise me one bit. I'd say Plastic Beach is better then Demon Days. Though Demon Days might have the more memorable songs, Plastic Beach is more complete and all around.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Plastic Beach is going to be that one album this year that is consistently overrated. It is generally boring despite bright flashes of inspiration

[stinkbutt]

Is this why LCD Soundsystem is probably going to get a 9 or better on their new album too?

Look at all the bands that have played the years past they are always the ones to get "best new music" stamp, but LCD will get an 8 or better and it will be deserved

[bmack86]

My guess would be that they book bands they give BNM to becasue they like those bands enough to label them BNM. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this.

[SoulDischarge]

That makes no sense. I'm pretty sure it's all part of an advanced conspiracy put together by the Illuminati to keep the proletariat Soundgarden fan down.

[FoxeyLady]

Didn't they totally cream themselves over LCD's last album (Sound of Silver)? That was probably enough right there.

[dorkfish]

average review for the last reviewed album for artists on the Pitchfork bill: 8.23

I'd imagine that the lineup is more of a reflection of albums that they liked rather than the vice versa conspiracy that was just mentioned.

[PotVsKtl]

In 2009 Pitchfork Media named the track "All My Friends", the second best song of the decade, and a month later, Sound of Silver was ranked at #17 in the 200s albums of the decade list.

[PassiveTheory]

average review for the last reviewed album for artists on the Pitchfork bill: 8.23

I'd imagine that the lineup is more of a reflection of albums that they liked rather than the vice versa conspiracy that was just mentioned.

Did... you methodically calculate that? If so, did you write a list of all the festival performers' newest albums and subsequent P4K scores? I'd like to see that list.

[stinkbutt]

Ok I know that post reads really dumb and yeah I get they book bands they like

I was more so saying it's ridiculous a Pavement compilation gets a 10 when they usually hate on compilation albums

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Ok I know that post reads really dumb and yeah I get they book bands they like

I was more so saying it's ridiculous a Pavement compilation gets a 10 when they usually hate on compilation albums

Pitchfork gave a KISS compilation a 10.0.

[bmack86]

Yeah, but that was Jason Josephes. He was crazy. He gave out more 10s and more 0s than any other writer there.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Yeah, but that was Jason Josephes. He was crazy. He gave out more 10s and more 0s than any other writer there.

Did he? I really don't read their reviews anymore, much less follow the writers.

I like reading some older reviews after I listen to some older albums, though

[bmack86]

Josephes did the Kiss thing as a part of a series where he tried to review every Kiss album to that point. I believe he gave out 2 10s, and I know there were 2 0.0s (The Peter Criss solo Kiss record and The Elder).

Back in '03 I got nuts about reading their old reviews. Found some awesome shit that way, like The Microphones, The Notwist, Brainiac, 12 Rods, etc.

[wmgaretjax]

all my infinite body tapes/lps are gonna shoot up in value

[bmack86]

Shit, I need to go back to Ooga Booga tomorrow and get all the records.

[pancakespancakes]

Heeeeeell yeeeeeeeaah the P4K bump!

It's really too bad now the dude didn't have any material for sale when I saw him play but two nights ago. Probably have to just buy this shit on itunes.

[wmgaretjax]

split LP and ekhein tape here:

http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/artists/infinite+body.html

[Still-ill]

Man oh man... the BNM tag isn't hard to come by these days.

[dorkfish]

No Age are participating in an auction for a Haitian fundraiser. They wrote on and signed one of their old tour t-shirts. If you win the auction, wearing the shirt = guest list to any No Age show for the rest of your life. Apparently, you're also bidding to find Dean's personal email address, because you'll have to email him to get on the guest list:

http://www.biddingforgood.com/auction/item/Item.action?id=107019802

[Still-ill]

A Johann Johannsson And in the Endless Pause There Came the Sound of Bees review? That record came out ages ago...

[vinylmartyr]

and the result was two fairly unfocused records saved by some decent alt-rap.

bullshit

[wmgaretjax]

I'm tired of reading Frog Eyes reviews about Sunset Rubdown (good or mediocre)... The evolution went the other way...

I bet it irritates the band.

[pancakespancakes]

Hahahahaha oh god I couldn't agree more.

[wmgaretjax]

I mean... I don't think Paul's Tomb is even close to as good as Tears... but it's still an incredible album and the last thing it should be compared to is Sunset Rubdown.

[guedita]

While waiting for Caribou to set up his stage yesterday, two guys next to me were discussing somewhat loudly how influential Pitchfork has been for up and coming bands, and how they've been trying to get their album on Pitchfork's radar by posting their music to blogs. I joined in and commented on how Kevin Drew of BSS commented on Pitchfork's contribution to their success and was met with evil hipster death stares. I then had to listen to one of them blather on about his band's "on-the-fringe, not-popularly-known" music influences: Surfer Blood, Avi Buffalo, Real Estate.

3.6

[PassiveTheory]

I then had to listen to one of them blather on about his band's "on-the-fringe, not-popularly-known" music influences: Surfer Blood, Avi Buffalo, Real Estate.

3.6

In my opinion, you let them off the hook. However, I understand since you have to appeal to your core constituency.



8.7

[pancakespancakes]

his band's "on-the-fringe, not-popularly-known" music influences: Surfer Blood, Avi Buffalo, Real Estate.


This is too great.

[shermanoaksyo]

In my opinion, you let them off the hook. However, I understand since you have to appeal to your core constituency.



8.7

see now someone needs to do hipster runoff meta-analysis of these scores.

[dorkfish]

a) Ariel Pink is recording vocals for the Avalanches new album
b) The album will be finished after they polish up the Ariel Pink track

[rage patton]

a) Ariel Pink is recording vocals for the Avalanches new album
b) The album will be finished after they polish up the Ariel Pink track

HOLY FUCKING HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Wait... does this mean they are actually recording original material for this album?

[dorkfish]

sounds like it. the news came from the moderator of their message board, so it's semi-legit/grain of salt.

At least it sounds promising that it will come out in 2011.

[rage patton]

I've waited 9 years... another year wont hurt.

[hacking my dreams]

so this thread isn't about pitchfork the site? am i allowed to start a thread about that beast?
wish i could go this year, anyways. but, i don't miss the cold.

[Gribbz]

so this thread isn't about pitchfork the site? am i allowed to start a thread about that beast?
wish i could go this year, anyways. but, i don't miss the cold.

This thread is actually about the agricultural tool.

[hacking my dreams]

would that be you, sir?

i guess there's enough on here to not start a new thread. i just think they are uppity reviewers and pretty negative. and that makes them the best, right?

[bmack86]

No, and they are not the best. What makes them good is usually the writers seem to generally care about the music they're writing about, and when they find something they like, they are pretty passionate about it. And, when the whole staff agrees on something enough to give a best new music (or however that happens), it's generally very good music. Pitchfork is a resource and talking about how much you dislike it is old and pointless.

[hacking my dreams]

I don't really think you've added anything to what i already know. That aside, i can't tell if the dissing is tongue-in-cheek (a la edward sharpe who earned a whopping 4.1 (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13852-up-from-below/)) and you can tell they care enough about music to be paid to be really snobby and gawkeresque wannabes at times. When they are positive, they are very well received. Their most popular read review is a very positive, lovely and caringly written evaluation. And it's rediculous, when Sharpe's release is way more emotionally deep than Aeroplane's new single 'we can't fly' (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/11919-we-cant-fly-radio-edit/), and i'm not comparing them. Just some of their reviews deserve a re-write because of all the scorn and rediculousness.

Maybe someone else can explain, thanks anyways bmack86 (don't know your name sir, and dont really care to!!)

[hacking my dreams]

just dawned on me. now i understand their name.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/20/article-1163328-03F75F34000005DC-808_468x327.jpg

[bmack86]

I don't really think you've added anything to what i already know. That aside, i can't tell if the dissing is tongue-in-cheek (a la edward sharpe who earned a whopping 4.1 (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13852-up-from-below/)) and you can tell they care enough about music to be paid to be really snobby and gawkeresque wannabes at times. When they are positive, they are very well received. Their most popular read review is a very positive, lovely and caringly written evaluation. And it's rediculous, when Sharpe's release is way more emotionally deep than Aeroplane's new single 'we can't fly' (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/11919-we-cant-fly-radio-edit/), and i'm not comparing them. Just some of their reviews deserve a re-write because of all the scorn and rediculousness.

Maybe someone else can explain, thanks anyways bmack86 (don't know your name sir, and dont really care to!!)

Wouldn't you rather see someone who dislikes a piece of music express that distaste rather than write a vague, pointlessly praising review that doesn't really go into why they like the album?

Your response doesn't really make sense though. What is their most popular read review? Why is Edward Sharpe your focus there? Many people find Edward Sharpe to be a bit cloying and obvious with their music (although I disagree and enjoy quite a bit of their stuff, I can definitely see where people are coming from when they say that.) I disagreed with the Pitchfork review of Edward Sharpe, but at the same time I can definitely understand and hear the main point their making in the review, which is that they take a stiff, heavy-handed approach to 60s revivalism throughout the album, and that on Home they successfully transcend that issue.

Or maybe I'm missing your point in the back and forth of your post.

[hacking my dreams]

speaking of back and forth...

I am just saying him/them as an example. Don't make me dig up more saddening reviews. Placing numbers next to music makes no sense to me. Comparing E. Sharpe to fruitopia is just cruel, man. But whatever, they're just an opinion factory, and we're all entitled to ours. It's their clout and ranking system and wording ugh all of that it rubs me wrong, like away from music, and away from them. That's all.

[wmgaretjax]

i regularly disagree with pitchfork reviews... but the e sharpe review is pretty spot on in my book.

[pancakespancakes]

Edward Sharpe got a poor review because they make shit music. That's understandable. But their accompanying rating seemed extra low to me because of how much mileage the album had got for itself among the Pitchfork-reading audience since it was released. As if to rub it in everyone's face how truly vapid it was. Had they been a more under the radar artist, I do feel like that review could have been less cold.

[hacking my dreams]

I don't understand their role. Are they tastemakers or yuckity-yuck snobs. Only time will tell if their review (yes Sharpe's) is flimsier than the piece of hard work they peed on. It's always fun to tear things apart, but I don't appreciate unfairness. That's all. /me

It's also fun to be purposefully vapid, and equally deserve a high ranking.

Shit music? When does your next album come out?

I don't care to go to P4k for reviews, i know what I hear, i don't need it to be talked down to. Just the fact's please bitch please.

[wmgaretjax]

There is no denying that they have been taste makers. Many of their lesser writers are also what might be referred to as "yuckity-yuck snobs." There is also no shortage of petulant individuals that feel the constant need to bicker redundantly about something that is obvious on the face of things. When someone calls you out on the bad taste you have... It can be either a rough realization or tantrum riddled with denial.

[pancakespancakes]

I don't understand their role. Are they tastemakers or yuckity-yuck snobs. Only time will tell if their review (yes Sharpe's) is flimsier than the piece of hard work they peed on.

I couldn't tell you what their role is. But I can tell you that nobody is going to remember Edward Sharpe ten years from now.



It's also fun to be purposefully vapid, and equally deserve a high ranking.


This band would not consider their music vapid if asked.



Shit music?

Shit music.


When does your next album come out?


It's not coming out because I also make shit music.

[wmgaretjax]

Curious about Altered Zones. The blogs they cited are shit. They are also labels... Which makes me think this will just end up being a pandering to bands/friends of those labels. Still could be interesting though...

[TallGuyCM]

Wow. Big Boi's record got a 9.2.

And the DP/Bjork collab got a 7.7, should have been a bit higher imo.

[GeezrRckr]

the new M.I.A. release got appropriately panned. i know there are some folks who are digging this, but i actually wholeheartedly agree with this review (less all the "i got your back fellow music critic" editorializing about Maya herself....i really couldn't give a shit about her personally). it's pretty awful.

she's been on a downward trajectory since blowing her Coachella set a couple years ago. if she were to fade into the sunset, it would be no huge loss to me. i'm tired of her gun samples and hollow political proclamations.

[wmgaretjax]

I actually think it's probably her most interesting album. I think the disjointed nature of the album is one of its strong suits.

[wmgaretjax]

They gave How To Dress Well some love though... That's good enough for me.

[pancakespancakes]

The Pitchfork review of M.I.A.'s new one is just retarded. I can't even believe I read it. I'm using the word retarded.

You want to think M.I.A. is a pop artist now? For one fucking song she's released three years ago? Do you remember why everyone liked her first two albums to begin with? M.I.A. makes club bangers. She's got three great albums worth of them now, and she's made one of the best of the year. She don't write no fucking pop songs. She is not a pop musician.

[SoulDischarge]

She makes pop songs. Maybe slightly complex, occasionally abrasive pop songs, but pop songs nonetheless.

[wmgaretjax]

Yeah. I'm not sure what pancakes means by "pop" in this context... but m.i.a. is pop in my book. Although I don't think the complaints leveraged in the review were relevant in that regard.

[JustSteve]

The Pitchfork review of M.I.A.'s new one is just retarded. I can't even believe I read it. I'm using the word retarded.

You want to think M.I.A. is a pop artist now? For one fucking song she's released three years ago? Do you remember why everyone liked her first two albums to begin with? M.I.A. makes club bangers. She's got three great albums worth of them now, and she's made one of the best of the year. She don't write no fucking pop songs. She is not a pop musician.

fuck her for using "straight to hell" like that :nono that was sacred ground.

[TallGuyCM]

fuck her for using "straight to hell" like that :nono that was sacred ground.

I'm sensing that MIA did something tasteless involving Joe Strummer and co.?

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Historically many big pop songs have been "club bangers"

[SoulDischarge]

I'm sensing that MIA did something tasteless involving Joe Strummer and co.?

Wait. Really?

And for the record, I love the use of that sample, probably more than the original. I'm not a Clash fanatic though.

[rage patton]

I'm sensing that MIA did something tasteless involving Joe Strummer and co.?

Please go listen to "Straight To Hell" right now, then come back here.

[TallGuyCM]

Sorrrrry, I'm not really familiar with non-London Calling Clash tunes. Listening now.

edit: Ah, yeah I can see how my last comment raised some eyebrows. I knew Paper Planes used a sample, but never knew of what.

[suprefan]

The Pitchfork review of M.I.A.'s new one is just retarded. I can't even believe I read it. I'm using the word retarded.

You want to think M.I.A. is a pop artist now? For one fucking song she's released three years ago? Do you remember why everyone liked her first two albums to begin with? M.I.A. makes club bangers. She's got three great albums worth of them now, and she's made one of the best of the year. She don't write no fucking pop songs. She is not a pop musician.

You sure know a lot about club bangers dont you? For someone who isnt even 21 and goes to ''raves''.

[rage patton]

Sorrrrry, I'm not really familiar with non-London Calling Clash tunes. Listening now.

edit: Ah, yeah I can see how my last comment raised some eyebrows. I knew Paper Planes used a sample, but never knew of what.

Its just kind of funny that you made a sarcastic remark, only to find out that is exactly what she did.

[TallGuyCM]

Its just kind of funny that you made a sarcastic remark, only to find out that is exactly what she did.

No no, my remark wasn't sarcastic, actually. I just saw that Steve got upset about something and assumed it was about the Clash, and was curious as to what. I really didn't know.

[wmgaretjax]

her use of that sample is fantastic.

[GeezrRckr]

but "Paper Planes" isn't a pop song. nah.

[bmack86]

her use of that sample is fantastic.

Agreed, most definitely.

[wmgaretjax]

Pitchfork is spot on with The-Dream album as well...

[bmack86]

That sounds like something I'll really enjoy.

[pancakespancakes]

but "Paper Planes" isn't a pop song. nah.

I would argue that it is. But I would probably argue that every single other song she's done, although generally very catchy, does not fall into the genre of "pop" before it falls into several other genres.

[pancakespancakes]

Historically many big pop songs have been "club bangers"

I guess this all boils down to what one believes is and isn't a pop song. While I do think M.I.A.'s got a strong pop element for sure, she's got a strong element of a lot of shit... I think there's three or four genre descriptions I would tag her music with before the word "pop."

This is relevant I guess because when critiquing her new album from a "pop" standpoint, according to P4K, it blows...

[TallGuyCM]

I would argue that it is.

I think you might have missed Geezr's sarcasm, pannycakes.

[Neutral Milk Hotel]

Come on pitchfork, Fables deserves higher than an 8.5

[wmgaretjax]

Remember when Pitchfork wrote good, rigorously critical reviews? About interesting albums? http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4070-op/

The question posed in the second to last paragraph is fantastic. While I think that Ikeda actually accomplishes this with the album (albeit in a more subtle, spectral way than the manner used in the previous works that were referenced by the author), I immediately respected the author for bringing it up.

[GeezrRckr]

I think you might have missed Geezr's sarcasm, pannycakes.
he's like 12....his balls haven't dropped yet.

[Sushov23]

I was reading reviews on old Belle & Sebastian albums, and it took me to this:
10.0: Indispensable, classic
9.5-9.9: Spectacular
9.0-9.4: Amazing
8.5-8.9: Exceptional; will likely rank among writer's top ten albums of the year
8.0-8.4: Very good
7.5-7.9: Above average; enjoyable
7.0-7.4: Not brilliant, but nice enough
6.0-6.9: Has its moments, but isn't strong
5.0-5.9: Mediocre; not good, but not awful
4.0-4.9: Just below average; bad outweighs good by just a little bit
3.0-3.9: Definitely below average, but a few redeeming qualities
2.0-2.9: Heard worse, but still pretty bad
1.0-1.9: Awful; not a single pleasant track
0.0-0.9: Breaks new ground for terrible

used to be on the old Pitchfork website. also they gave Arab Strap a 0.8

[amyzzz]

Lulz at "breaks new ground for terrible."

[bmack86]

They didn't include on there the ranking so bad they haven't given it out yet: a o.o (The guy who reviewed NYC Ghosts and Flowers made reference to that).

[TomAz]

did this get posted already?

http://www.pitchforkreviewsreviews.com/


talked to barack obama, the president of the united states, about pitchfork
okay so did you ever read that really long New York Times Magazine piece called like “All The Obama Twentysomethings” about all the really young White House staffers, kids in their twenties who went to like Harvard and Yale and now work as liasons or advisers or coordinators in the Obama Administration?

okay well so on Saturday i was at a party and i was gushing about Obama to this kid who said he was with the Democratic National Committee, i told him how i didn’t think Obama was getting a fair shake from the press right now and a bunch of other stuff. i also told him about the night i was DJing at Lit and Obama won the election and people were dancing out on the street, on 2nd Avenue, and how it was like fucking magical and i really wanted to run outside but i couldn’t because i was working

and then he told me that if i wanted to, on Wednesday (which is today), i could volunteer to drive a van in the presidential motorcade. so we emailed back and forth a few times to set it up, and what i am doing today is driving a 12-passenger Ford E-350 van in the presidential motorcade as he passes through new york today to do two democratic fundraisers and tape an appearance on the daytime TV show The View. right now he is reportedly eating a sandwich at a sub shop in Edison, New Jersey and i am sitting in the lobby of the heliport just south of the South Street Seaport with like five hundred cops and secret service agents monitoring the perimeter.

my van’s name is Press 1 and i am supposed to keep my mouth shut around the press that i’m chauffeuring because anything i say is “on the record” and could embarrass the administration.

if you’re wondering why some random 22-year-old is doing this, there’s three reasons: 1) the president is doing Democratic fundraisers, which are political, so using enlisted military men or policemen to drive his people around would be ethically questionable because those dudes are apolitical by nature 2) it’s expensive to fly in drivers from DC, and there’s no real reason to 3) there is a culture of volunteerism within the Obama administration. like apparently when he does a rally in St. Louis there are like a hundred people doing what i do. they did an extensive background check on me to do this too. i wonder if secret service agents read this blog?

also if you’re wondering if Secret Service agents are gonna be tapping on my window for blogging about this, i was told that they won’t be as long as i don’t include any sensitive security stuff. also if you are a terrorist and you’re reading this to obtain national security information i’m gonna tell you right now that there’s nothing sensitive here and i’d also like to take this opportunity to recommend to you the new Big Boi record entitled Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty because it is so good

so anyway today i took the day off from work to drive this van in the presidential motorcade and i hope that by the end of the day i can ask Barack Obama what his favorite indie rock band is and if he’s familiar with Pitchfork (i know he’s 48 but he’s pretty hip and from Chicago and lived there for years while the festival was going on and before he was president) and i’m gonna ask him what he thinks of it if i can!!!

so as i just said, i am sitting on a bench in the lobby of the South Manhattan Heliport. the president’s car is out back and i just took a video with it. on the drive from midtown to the seaport i listened to the lunchtime old school hip-hop/r&b show on Hot 97 on the radio, i was driving a 12-passenger van by myself with my Google Maps directions printout stuffed under my leg so it wouldn’t fly out the window and listening to Mariah Carey’s Fantasy, i was so scared i was gonna crash the van but after like 2 minutes on the road i felt okay about it, it’s not as hard as i thought it was gonna be, maybe i’ll try to drive a bus sometime?

now i am sitting in the van because the president’s helicopter just left new jersey and the woman who is the press liason just opened the passenger door to the van and she startled me because i was writing that post about pitchfork being searchable by writer and i was like “ahhhh hi!!” and turned the radio off really fast because i’m listening to Hot 97 and the new Young Jeezy single featuring Plies was playing really loud and the Plies verse was on and he was saying “ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS, THAT’S WHAT THE ***** (pussy, it was bleeped) COST ME” right as she opened the door. i think i just got off on the wrong foot with that woman

then i wait another five minutes and a different woman gets into the passenger seat of my van and introduces herself and i ask if she was in new jersey and if flew on the helicopter with the president and she says “yes” and i ask her what kind of sandwich he got at the sub shop in New Jersey and she says he got a “super sub” which she assumed had “everything” on it, and then she told me that the prices at the sub shop were quite reasonable and she remembered a lot of the prices. she said “the sandwiches were $7.50 or $8, a small bag of chips was 50 cents, a large was $1, a small potato salad was $1.69, a large was $2.49…” her memory was impressive

then we drove to ABC studios and the president went on The View. me and the other drivers stood around in a basement room with all the press people watching the president on The View. the press people were using their laptops, many of their laptops had extra batteries and wireless receivers taped up with black electric tape to the back of the laptop screens which i thought looked pretty hardcore

then we went out to a space they set up for the president to take pictures with people. it was a red carpet with flags and fake trees and a curtain. all six of us, the drivers, stood in photo-ready formation for awhile waiting for the president. david axelrod walked by, he looked a little disheveled, he waved to us. and then the president walked down a hallway with some secret service dudes around him and into the room we were in and looked at us and said “hi guys!!” and we all said “hi!” and he thanked us for driving and then looked us over, we’re all pretty young, and said “are any of you students?” and two of the drivers say “yes” and he goes “where do you go to school?” and they say “yale” and he says “what do the rest of you do?” to each person individually and they each answer. he shakes all of our hands

i’m last and when he gets to me he shakes my hand and i say “it’s great to meet you!!” and he says “what do you do?”

and i am looking barack obama in the eye and i say, “i write a blog about a popular music website!”

and he looks at me quizzically for a second, i guess he was sort of piecing it together, and he goes, “oh, which website?”

and i say, “it’s called pitchfork. it’s based in chicago! are you familiar with it?”

and he says, “no, but i’ll have to look into it!”

and then he walks around behind us and stands next to me and the photographer takes our picture twice and then we go back out to the vans to drive him to his next event, where he’ll meet Anna Wintour.

so now i am sitting on like 44th street in the line of vans and a man in military garb carrying a huge rifle just strolled by. that Young Jeezy song is on Hot 97 again. i just ate my tuna salad on a bagel. so i’m driving a white house staffer, a photographer, and two people who have not clarified their roles here to me yet. as the motorcade goes around new york, the streets are lined with people. someone in the car remarked on how amazing it is to be in new york but mostly they stay silent. we pass a man who is holding up a sign that says something like SPACE ORBITAL PSYCHOSOCIAL WARFARE or something and the photographer takes a picture of him and i wanna lean over to the staffer in the front seat and say “do you think he’s on to something?” but i don’t think we’re on the same sense of humor wavelength. then later the photographer is looking over his pictures and realizes that the man standing in front of the man with the sign is Luis Guzman

whenever we are not with our vans, we are told to leave the vans running with the air conditioners also running (so the van isn’t boiling hot when the staffers get back to it), but to leave the windows down in case a staffer needs to get into the vans and we aren’t there to let them in. the vans are still boiling hot. one of the other drivers notes, “motorcades aren’t good for the environment”

i tell the staffer who asked me to volunteer for this about talking to the president about Pitchfork and he says he didn’t think barack knew about pitchfork. on The View they asked Barack Obama what music is on his iPod and he said “everything” and they asked “justin bieber?” and he said “no” and my friend jokes that it’s because justin bieber got a bigger ovation at the white house easter egg roll this year than the president. i guess they’re just used to obama at the white house and justin bieber being there was novel. but i just can’t imagine that obama would be listening to justin bieber even if that hadn’t happened

we drive to the west village, where barack chills with anna wintour at her apartment. we park on houston and sullivan. houston street was blocked all the way from the FDR to maybe the West Side Highway and there are people standing behind barricades looking at the motorcade. one of the women who i am driving asks what neighborhood we are in and i tell her “Greenwich Village i think”. she said that one time she ate at a restaurant that frank bruni recommended to her on this street. she said they’re friends.

in the van outside anna wintour’s house i talked to one of the staffers about music. she really likes the avett brothers and doesn’t really like the jonas brothers. she’s friends with the avett brothers from when they were like a local band in north carolina. then she saw the book i was reading, michael azerrad’s Our Band Could Be Your Life, and she told me about going to rock shows in the 70’s. then the motorcade dropped barack and his crew off back at the helipad and they flew to new jersey in their helicopters and then back to DC. the new york times writer who was in my van filed a brief report about the whole day from the back of the van. you can find it on the New York Times Caucus Blog. it’s pretty different from my report but you know what they say: there’s your side, there’s my side, and then there’s the truth

[PassiveTheory]

So now every single Pitchfork headline has a re-tweet and fb like option.

Discuss.

[SoulDischarge]

90's nostalgia! They posted their top 50 music videos of the 90s and are going to spend next week posting their top 200 songs of the 90s. Should be fun.

Thoughts on the music video list? "Buddy Holly" is fun and cute and all, but #2 of the decade is a bit much. Also, I think the video for "Da Funk" is fucking stupid and the fact that it got in at #3 ahead of "Around The World" is unacceptable. "Come To Daddy," "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)," and "Sabotage" in the top ten are good calls though. I'm planning on watching the whole list through.

[SoulDischarge]

Anyone else been having trouble with Pitchfork pages not loading about half way down for the last couple of months? It happens in both Chrome and Firefox.

[kreutz2112]

I agree about the Daft Punk discrepancy. The Around The World Video is far superior to Da Funk. In fact, it's far superior to any music video period.

[wmgaretjax]

All Is Full Of Love should have been number 1.

[TallGuyCM]

Thoughts on the music video list? "Buddy Holly" is fun and cute and all, but #2 of the decade is a bit much.

Beyond the fun and cute, nobody had done anything like that with music videos before, technologically speaking. I mean, they looked like they were there. That was mind-blowing in 1994.

I have no problem with it at #2, well deserved.

[wmgaretjax]

Windows 95 install disc like hell yeah.

[SoulDischarge]

I agree about the Daft Punk discrepancy. The Around The World Video is far superior to Da Funk. In fact, it's far superior to any music video period.

I won't argue with that.


All Is Full Of Love should have been number 1.

I'm on the fence about this video. I just don't find robot Bjork to be an appealing image; in fact, it's an image that bugs the hell out of me. That said, it's otherwise an incredibly well made and poignant video. But still. That robot face. I kind of want to punch it. Also, our final exam in one of my Cultural Studies classes in college (does film school count as college?) involved analyzing this video.


Beyond the fun and cute, nobody had done anything like that with music videos before, technologically speaking. I mean, they looked like they were there. That was mind-blowing in 1994.

I have no problem with it at #2, well deserved.

It's still just a pretty straight forward gimmick with very little variation for a couple of minutes. No way that shit's better than "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)."

[dorkfish]

200-151 Top 200 songs of the 1990s

200. Transformer 2 "Fruit of Love (Techno Mix)"
199. Lambchop "Your Fucking Sunny Day"
198. Dillinja "The Angels Fell"
197. Danzig "Mother '93"
196. Tindersticks "City Sickness"
195. Cutty Ranks "Limb By Limb"
194. Boyz II Men "Motownphilly"
193. Positive K "I Got a Man"
192. Harvey Danger "Flagpole Sitta"
191. Digable Planets "9th Wonder (Blackitolism)"
190. Refused "New Noise"
189. The Sundays "Here's Where the Story Ends"
188. Halo Benders "Virginia Reel Around the Fountain"
187. Arab Strap "The First Big Weekend"
186. Isolée "Beau Mot Plage"
185. Herbert and Dani Siciliano "So Now..."
184. The Cure "A Letter to Elise"
183. Mercury Rev "Holes"
182. Opus III "It's a Fine Day (Club Remix)"
181. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Red Right Hand"
180. The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion "Bellbottoms"
179. Field Mice "Missing the Moon"
178. Broadcast "Echo's Answer"
177. Boredoms "Super Are"
176. Orbital "Chime"
175. Stone Temple Pilots "Interstate Love Song"
174. The Boo Radleys "Lazarus"
173. Shudder to Think "X-French Tee Shirt"
172. Gang Starr "Mass Appeal"
171. Black Box "Everybody Everybody"
170. Noreaga "SuperThug"
169. Suede "We Are the Pigs"
168. Alice in Chains "Would?"
167. Apollo Two "Atlantis (I Need You) (LTJ Bukem Remix)"
166. En Vogue "My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)"
165. Helium "Pat's Trick"
164. The Auteurs "Unsolved Child Murder"
163. The Afghan Whigs "Gentlemen"
162. Red House Painters "Katy Song"
161. Kelis "Caught Out There"
160. Mogwai "Mogwai Fear Satan"
159. The Roots "The Next Movement"
158. White Town "Your Woman"
157. Juvenile "Ha"
156. Omni Trio "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"
155. Destiny's Child "Bills, Bills, Bills"
154. Pharoahe Monch "Simon Says"
153. The Clientele "We Could Walk Together"
152. Jane's Addiction "Stop!"
151. Green Day "Longview"

[SoulDischarge]

Interesting start. I'm putting my bet on "Smells Like Teen Spirit." I'm sure Pavement and Radiohead will make the top 10. Maybe Beck and Flaming Lips.

[wmgaretjax]

probably yo la tengo too.

[obzen]

Ha, Refused. These fools are dicks.

[SoulDischarge]

And probably an N*Sync song or something.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Is it possible that we could put together a downloadable playlist for this list like what was posted for the P2K roundups? Once all 200 are counted down, I mean.

[Miroir Noir]

The "one track per artist" thing is ridiculous. I don't want to see a list that includes 28 Radiohead songs and all 11 tracks from Loveless any more than the next person, but still, there's gotta be a compromise. You know, like the five songs per artist rule they used for the '60s list.

[dorkfish]

150. Fatboy Slim "Praise You"
149. Matthew Sweet "Girlfriend"
148. Slint "Good Morning, Captain"
147. The Future Sound of London "Papua New Guinea"
146. Julee Cruise "Falling"
145. Ride "Vapour Trail"
144. Mos Def "Ms. Fat Booty"
143. The Olivia Tremor Control "Hideaway"
142. Goodie Mob "Cell Therapy"
141. Brian Eno/John Cale "Lay My Love"
140. Guns N' Roses "November Rain"
139. Acen "Trip II the Moon [Pt. 1 and 2]"
138. The Lemonheads "It's a Shame About Ray"
137. Pet Shop Boys "Being Boring"
136. UGK "One Day"
135. Super Furry Animals "Ice Hockey Hair"
134. Moby "Go"
133. Pearl Jam "Yellow Ledbetter"
132. Ice Cube "Wicked"
131. Unrest "Make Out Club"
130. Jawbox "Savory"
129. Cat Power "Cross Bones Style"
128. Supergrass "Caught By the Fuzz"
127. Digital Underground "The Humpty Dance"
126. Huggy Bear "Her Jazz"
125. Spacehog "In the Meantime"
124. James "Laid"
123. The Jesus Lizard "Mouth Breather"
122. Tricky "Christiansands"
121. Raekwon [ft. Method Man, Ghostface Killah and Cappadonna] "Ice Cream"
120. Eminem "My Name Is..."
119. Len "Steal My Sunshine"
118. Morrissey "Now My Heart Is Full"
117. Black Star [ft. Common] "Respiration"
116. The House Crew "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"
115. Black Sheep "The Choice is Yours (Revisited)"
114. TLC "Creep"
113. Cornershop "Brimful of Asha (Norman Cook Remix)"
112. Daniel Johnston "Some Things Last a Long Time"
111. The La's "There She Goes"
110. Common Sense "I Used to Love H.E.R."
109. Tortoise "Djed"
108. Warren G [ft. Nate Dogg] "Regulate"
107. 2Pac [ft. Shock G and Money-B] "I Get Around"
106. New Radicals "You Get What You Give"
105. Happy Mondays "Kinky Afro"
104. Ginuwine "Pony"
103. Silver Jews "Random Rules"
102. The Magnetic Fields "Book of Love"
101. Snoop Doggy Dogg "Gin & Juice"

[Miroir Noir]

I love that New Radicals song.

[TomAz]

124. James "Laid"

there are two or three songs better than "Laid" on that album. I guess the PF guys saw the video when they were 11 and it stuck with them.

[rskapcat]

I'd put "Sometimes" over "Laid"...possibly "Out To Get You," as well.

[SoulDischarge]

119. Len "Steal My Sunshine"

Really? I mean, really?



114. TLC "Creep"
104. Ginuwine "Pony""

Yes.

[bmack86]

I listened to all three of these last night when they posted it. Pony is the best song of the three by far.

[Miroir Noir]

Why is this shocking? Pitchfork has always included mainstream pop songs on these lists. And "Pony" gets a cred bounce from Pitchfork because of the Timbaland production.

[bballarl]

there are two or three songs better than "Laid" on that album. I guess the PF guys saw the video when they were 11 and it stuck with them.

You're right, but "Laid" is a fantastic pop song. No two ways about it.


I'd put "Sometimes" over "Laid"...possibly "Out To Get You," as well.

"Sometimes" crushes me. That whole album is pretty underrated.

[PotVsKtl]

Ha, Refused. These fools are dicks.

Get cancer.

[vinylmartyr]

You're right, but "Laid" is a fantastic pop song. No two ways about it.



"Sometimes" crushes me. That whole album is pretty underrated.

I like Seven more than Laid. that album was on repeat in 92.

[TomAz]

I'd put "Sometimes" over "Laid"...possibly "Out To Get You," as well.

those are the exact two I had in mind, actually.


You're right, but "Laid" is a fantastic pop song. No two ways about it.



"Sometimes" crushes me. That whole album is pretty underrated.

Yes, agreed on all points.

When that album came out, I read a review of it and thought 'that looks really good' so I bought it. The fact that Eno produced was also an enticement. And I liked the record so much I went to see them ... and.. the place was crawling with screaming 17 year old girls. I had no idea they were some sort of teen idol sensation. it was pretty weird.

[rskapcat]

I saw James at Six Flags shortly after Laid came out. With many teenage girls.

[TomAz]

ahahahahahaa I saw them at Astroworld. I bet we saw them on successive nights. too funny.

[SoulDischarge]

Why is this shocking? Pitchfork has always included mainstream pop songs on these lists. And "Pony" gets a cred bounce from Pitchfork because of the Timbaland production.

I'm not surprised about the inclusion of pop songs. I just think "Steal My Sunshine" is humanity's nadir. It's like licking saccharine maggot pus with your ears.

[Gribbz]

I'm not surprised about the inclusion of pop songs. I just think "Steal My Sunshine" is humanity's nadir. It's like licking saccharine maggot pus with your ears.

Also, isn't the entire video just a bunch of bros/guidos walking up and down a boardwalk somewhere?

[rskapcat]

I remember we ran into Tim Booth post-show and I asked if I could kiss his hand. (I was 14.) He declined. I wrote him off as a dick. Still liked the music, though.

[amyzzz]

When I saw James back in the mid-90's, they actually played "Laid" twice, which was ridiculous. I enjoyed it both times though.

[roberto73]

I'm seeing James at the end of September. That is all.

[bballarl]

I would like to see them.

[hawkingvsreeve]

Glad to see they chose the right TLC song.

Also I fucking love Pony.

[TallGuyCM]

New Radicals above Yellow Ledbetter? :nono :nono :nono

[dorkfish]

100. Galaxie 500 "Fourth of July"
99. Ghost Town DJs "My Boo"
98. Elastica "Stutter"
97. Luniz "I Got 5 on It"
96. Primal Scream "Higher Than the Sun"
95. Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
94. Stereolab "French Disko"
93. Dinosaur Jr. "Start Choppin'"
92. Hole "Violet"
91. Jeff Buckley "Last Goodbye"
90. Ol' Dirty Bastard [ft. Kelis] "Got Your Money"
89. Smog "Teenage Spaceship"
88. Souls of Mischief "93 'Til Infinity"
87. Liz Phair "Fuck and Run"
86. Bell Biv DeVoe "Poison"
85. Air "All I Need"
84. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony "Tha Crossroads"
83. Sleater-Kinney "Dig Me Out"
82. Blackstreet [ft. Dr. Dre] "No Diggity"
81. Superchunk "Slack Motherfucker"
80. The KLF "Wichita Lineman Was a Song I Once Heard"
79. George Michael "Freedom! 90"
78. Erykah Badu "On & On"
77. Archers of Loaf "Web in Front"
76. D'Angelo "Brown Sugar"
75. Jim O'Rourke "Halfway to a Threeway"
74. Wilco "Via Chicago"
73. Disco Inferno "Love Stepping Out"
72. R.E.M. "Nightswimming"
71. Arthur Russell "This Is How We Walk on the Moon"
70. Boards of Canada "Roygbiv"
69. Basement Jaxx "Red Alert"
68. Saint Etienne "Avenue"
67. Bikini Kill "Rebel Girl"
66. The Cardigans "Lovefool"
65. Mary J. Blige "Real Love"
64. The Dismemberment Plan "The City"
63. Modest Mouse "Trailer Trash"
62. Jay-Z "Dead Presidents II"
61. Pixies "Alec Eiffel"
60. Sonic Youth "100%"
59. Deee-Lite "Groove Is in the Heart"
58. Fugazi "Repeater"
57. The Beta Band "Dry the Rain"
56. Godspeed You Black Emperor! "Moya"
55. Ghostface Killah "Daytona 500"
54. Portishead "Glory Box"
53. De La Soul "A Rollerskating Jam Named 'Saturdays'"
52. The Stone Roses "I Wanna Be Adored"
51. Public Enemy "Brothers Gonna Work It Out"

[rskapcat]

86. Bell Biv DeVoe "Poison"
82. Blackstreet [ft. Dr. Dre] "No Diggity"
76. D'Angelo "Brown Sugar"


YES. Yeah, there's other good stuff. But YES to these.

[rskapcat]

And I echo Aaron's request on the previous page for a few accomodating board members to compile this list a la the P4K 500. I will reward them with hugs. Or pancakes, should you ever happen to visit.

[Mr. Fuzz]

meh

[Mr. Fuzz]

That list should be cut in half and they need to fire whomever's decission it was to list Deee-Lite's "Groove Is in the Heart" above Sonic Youth's "100%". I don't know why I clicked on this thread.

[Mr. Fuzz]

I really hate that song.

[rskapcat]

...and I still listen to Deee-Lite on a semi-regular basis. Different strokes, sir.

[Mr. Fuzz]

I just want a condensed list minus all the black artist.

[Mr. Fuzz]

#1 song of da nineties
WL2txMU50CI

[LooseAtTheZoo]

The continued obsession with "Via Chicago" at Pitchfork is baffling to me. Wilco has albums worth of better material. I guess I need to remind myself that for Pitchfork, best songs of the 90's are typically judged by entirely non-musical criteria.

[bmack86]

No Diggity is a fantastic call.

[faxman75]

The continued obsession with "Via Chicago" at Pitchfork is baffling to me. Wilco has albums worth of better material. I guess I need to remind myself that for Pitchfork, best songs of the 90's are typically judged by entirely non-musical criteria.

It's subjective but I would put Via Chicago in my top 5 favorite Wilco songs. It's definitely my favorite song writing and the guitar is subtle and beautiful. Live the song really blows me away and gets overwhelming with so much sound, distortion and noise during the chorus. Over the years the song has certainly gone through a metamorphosis live.

I fucking love the the influx of instrumenation at 3:38 and then watch Nels at 4:00

Q1T_f2O6RO8

[FoxeyLady]

Dead Presidents II, Pitchfork knows what's up. Although I thought Alec Eiffel was an odd choice for the Pixies, hm.

[heart cooks brain]

Archers of Loaf! Hell ueah

[TomAz]

"Nightswimming" is Exhibit B in the demonstration of REM's transformation from an interesting, inventive, and intelligent band to salesmen peddling pathos and sentimental pap to the dullwitted mainstream.

[Phantasma Del Mar]

Anyone know what the review was where they just put up a video of a monkey drinking it's own piss?

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Anyone know what the review was where they just put up a video of a monkey drinking it's own piss?

Jet.

[hawkingvsreeve]

Nice to see Elastica on there.

[bmack86]

Hoover Dam by Sugar deserves to be on here and it's not going to make it I bet. Disappointment, meet Bryan.

[Mr. Fuzz]

They need to leave room for "Make Em Say Uhh" by Master P.

[Miroir Noir]

"I Wanna Be Adored" is cheating. Great song, but still cheating.

Surprised that they picked "Nightswimming" as the R.E.M. entry.

My predicted top ten, in chronological (unranked) order: "Soon," "Smells Like Teen Spirit," "Summer Babe," "Nuthin' But a G Thang," "Juicy," "Hyper-Ballad," "Da Funk," "Paranoid Android," "Oh Comely," and "Waitin' For a Superman."

[bmack86]

That looks very possible.

[pancakespancakes]

I know very few of these songs... better not be the last Galaxie 500 song on the list, though...

[Miroir Noir]

Flame out on my Flaming Lips pick, but I still have a shot to be 9/10 on my guesses.

[wmgaretjax]

I See A Darkness deserves that. Easily one of my favorite songs.

[Miroir Noir]

And they picked the right Yo La Tengo song!

[SoulDischarge]

"I Wanna Be Adored" is cheating. Great song, but still cheating.

Surprised that they picked "Nightswimming" as the R.E.M. entry.

My predicted top ten, in chronological (unranked) order: "Soon," "Smells Like Teen Spirit," "Summer Babe," "Nuthin' But a G Thang," "Juicy," "Hyper-Ballad," "Da Funk," "Paranoid Android," "Oh Comely," and "Waitin' For a Superman."

The MBV track could be a couple of things, but that seems pretty accurate.

[dorkfish]

50. Oasis "Live Forever"
49. Yo La Tengo "Autumn Sweater"
48. Foo Fighters "Everlong"
47. PJ Harvey "Rid of Me"
46. Stardust "Music Sounds Better With You"
45. Geto Boys "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"
44. Massive Attack "Unfinished Sympathy"
43. The Chemical Brothers [ft. Noel Gallagher] "Setting Sun"
42. Nine Inch Nails "Closer"
41. The Pharcyde "Passin' Me By"
40. The Orb "Little Fluffy Clouds"
39. Beastie Boys "Sabotage"
38. A Tribe Called Quest "Check the Rhime"
37. Sinéad O'Connor "Nothing Compares 2 U"
36. Guided by Voices "Game of Pricks"
35. Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)"
34. New Order "Regret"
33. Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
32. Bonnie "Prince" Billy "I See a Darkness"
31. Underworld "Born Slippy .NUXX"
30. The Flaming Lips "Race for the Prize"
29. The Verve "Bitter Sweet Symphony"
28. Nas "It Ain't Hard to Tell"
27. Elliott Smith "Needle in the Hay"
26. Blur "Girls & Boys"
25. Mobb Deep "Shook Ones Part II"
24. Built to Spill "Car"
23. Spiritualized "Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space (Elvis Version)"
22. The Breeders "Cannonball"
21. The Smashing Pumpkins "1979"

[bmack86]

I haven't looked thru all of the list, but I have to completely disagree with Autumn Sweater. It's their "almost as good" rewrite of Sudden Organ, which is the best YLT song.

[Miroir Noir]

The MBV track could be a couple of things, but that seems pretty accurate.

I'm pretty confident that it will be "Soon." The real unknown for me is which Neutral Milk Hotel song they'll pick.

[bmack86]

And their choice of Closer by NIN is interesting. I'm listening to it for the first time in a long time and realizing that it could easily become a fucking killer funk song with just a few instrumental switches.

[SoulDischarge]

I'm not having this conversation again.


EDIT: That was in reply to Yo La Tengo.

[wmgaretjax]

I haven't looked thru all of the list, but I have to completely disagree with Autumn Sweater. It's their "almost as good" rewrite of Sudden Organ, which is the best YLT song.

I agree.

[Mr. Fuzz]

That list is much better.

This thread has inspired me to put a play list together of Pitchforks top ten albums of the 90's, 80's and 70's. I'm going to listen to their top ten 90's albums today (if I can resist from listening to the 80's and 70's albums).

Pitchfork's top ten albums (((and songs))) of the 90's are the following:
001: Radiohead - OK Computer ((( Paranoid Android)))
002: My Bloody Valentine - Loveless (((Soon)))
003: The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin (((Waitin' For A Superman)))
004: Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (((Holland, 1945)))
005: Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted (((Summer Babe)))
006: Nirvana - Nevermind (((Smells Like Teen Spirit)))
007: DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing (((Midnight In A Perfect World)))
008: Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (((Gold Sounds)))
009: Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See a Darkness (((I See a Darkness)))
010: Guided by Voices - Bee Thousand (((I Am a Scientist)))

After looking through their 100 albums of the 90's I can see that they clearly avoided some obvious choices like the following:
Hole - Live Through This
Tool - Ænima
Rage Against the Machine - Self Titled
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Pearl Jam - Ten
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
Stone Temple Pilots - Core
No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom
Sublime - 40oz to Freedom
Snoop Dogg - Doggstyle

Let me know of any other good 90's albums that aren't on their top 100 because I'd like to grab them. Thanks!

[Mr. Fuzz]

Oh yeah. I grabbed PITCHFORK's 200 SONGS 2000-2010 a while back but I can't find the link anymore. It has some gems.

[Mr. Fuzz]

Hopefully, I don't slit my wrist by noon.

[Phantasma Del Mar]

Thought 1979 would have been in the top 10 at least. Hmm.

[liquidsnake28]

Of all the Nas songs they choose "It ain't hard to tell" ... wow

[bmack86]

I have playlists of the top 100 of the 90s, 80s and 70s. 80s is the best listen I think.

[Mr. Fuzz]

I listened to Simease Dream Last night and it's really good. I would of put it in the top ten for sure. If I had to put one album at the top of the 90's list I would put Nirvana Unplugged and the no. 1 song would be "Where Did You Sleep Last Night"...even though it's a cover. That song just has so much raw emotion.

[wmgaretjax]

the 90s sucked compared to the 80s and 00s. fuckin shit sandwich.

[Mr. Fuzz]

***insert 19 minute version clip of The Diamond Sea here***

[wmgaretjax]

No love for the 25 minute version?

[PotVsKtl]

the 90s sucked compared to the 80s and 00s. fuckin shit sandwich.

If you like synthesizers.

[wmgaretjax]

FbYeKQf7TKc

[PotVsKtl]

-Dxc1h99oFo

[wmgaretjax]

yeah yeah yeah. there was some great music.

[hawkingvsreeve]

They kinda shit the bed with that Massive Attack pick.

[PotVsKtl]

And their choice of Closer by NIN is interesting. I'm listening to it for the first time in a long time and realizing that it could easily become a fucking killer funk song with just a few instrumental switches.

http://musicmachinery.com/2010/05/21/the-swinger/

[LooseAtTheZoo]

I have playlists of the top 100 of the 90s, 80s and 70s. 80s is the best listen I think.

Is there any way you could up the 70s and 80s ones after ATP?

[bmack86]

Are you gonna be at ATP? If not I could meet you in the city. These are albums, not tracks, so it'd be 200 albums you're getting.

[SoulDischarge]

I also have the vast majority of the Pitchfork lists on my hard drive. Uploading them would be a bitch though. If anyone wants specific years from the 00s or the 60's one, I could perhaps pull that off.

[bballarl]

They kinda shit the bed with that Massive Attack pick.

Really? That is easily Massive Attack's best song.

[amyzzz]

Really? That is easily Massive Attack's best song.
Ugh, no.

[TomAz]

42. Nine Inch Nails "Closer"

looks like PF had a staff party at the strip club.

[pancakespancakes]

I have never been an Autumn Sweater fan. I dunno, though. Interesting write up. Definitely made me want to listen to it. I'll always love that beat...

[Jman4321]

Fuck yes, "Gold Soundz".

[Miroir Noir]

Really surprised that "Common People" made it to 2. I figured yesterday that it had jumped to the top 20 (along with personal favorites "Fade Into You" and "Enjoy the Silence"), but I had no idea it would go that high.

U2's "One" should have been on this list somewhere; it's simply knee-jerkism that its not. And did they pick anything off of Talk Talk's album?

[bballarl]

Not a bad list.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Really surprised that "Common People" made it to 2. I figured yesterday that it had jumped to the top 20 (along with personal favorites "Fade Into You" and "Enjoy the Silence"), but I had no idea it would go that high.

U2's "One" should have been on this list somewhere; it's simply knee-jerkism that its not. And did they pick anything off of Talk Talk's album?

Common People is fucking incredible

[knytt]

Gold Soundz is a good choice, for once.

[SoulDischarge]

Goddammit. What's the rest of the list. Pitchfork pages are still only loading half way for me.

[getbetter]

I think i didn't see Portishead on any of the top 100 90's tracks.

[MuseRadio]

Not a bad list, but Gold Soundz sure as hell isnt the best song of the 90s. MOre influential then Teen Sprit? Please. What a joke.

[Miroir Noir]

"Glory Box" was on the list.

[Mr. Fuzz]

Top 200 songs of the 1990s

200. Transformer 2 "Fruit of Love (Techno Mix)"
199. Lambchop "Your Fucking Sunny Day"
198. Dillinja "The Angels Fell"
197. Danzig "Mother '93"
196. Tindersticks "City Sickness"
195. Cutty Ranks "Limb By Limb"
194. Boyz II Men "Motownphilly"
193. Positive K "I Got a Man"
192. Harvey Danger "Flagpole Sitta"
191. Digable Planets "9th Wonder (Blackitolism)"
190. Refused "New Noise"
189. The Sundays "Here's Where the Story Ends"
188. Halo Benders "Virginia Reel Around the Fountain"
187. Arab Strap "The First Big Weekend"
186. Isolée "Beau Mot Plage"
185. Herbert and Dani Siciliano "So Now..."
184. The Cure "A Letter to Elise"
183. Mercury Rev "Holes"
182. Opus III "It's a Fine Day (Club Remix)"
181. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Red Right Hand"
180. The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion "Bellbottoms"
179. Field Mice "Missing the Moon"
178. Broadcast "Echo's Answer"
177. Boredoms "Super Are"
176. Orbital "Chime"
175. Stone Temple Pilots "Interstate Love Song"
174. The Boo Radleys "Lazarus"
173. Shudder to Think "X-French Tee Shirt"
172. Gang Starr "Mass Appeal"
171. Black Box "Everybody Everybody"
170. Noreaga "SuperThug"
169. Suede "We Are the Pigs"
168. Alice in Chains "Would?"
167. Apollo Two "Atlantis (I Need You) (LTJ Bukem Remix)"
166. En Vogue "My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)"
165. Helium "Pat's Trick"
164. The Auteurs "Unsolved Child Murder"
163. The Afghan Whigs "Gentlemen"
162. Red House Painters "Katy Song"
161. Kelis "Caught Out There"
160. Mogwai "Mogwai Fear Satan"
159. The Roots "The Next Movement"
158. White Town "Your Woman"
157. Juvenile "Ha"
156. Omni Trio "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"
155. Destiny's Child "Bills, Bills, Bills"
154. Pharoahe Monch "Simon Says"
153. The Clientele "We Could Walk Together"
152. Jane's Addiction "Stop!"
151. Green Day "Longview"
150. Fatboy Slim "Praise You"
149. Matthew Sweet "Girlfriend"
148. Slint "Good Morning, Captain"
147. The Future Sound of London "Papua New Guinea"
146. Julee Cruise "Falling"
145. Ride "Vapour Trail"
144. Mos Def "Ms. Fat Booty"
143. The Olivia Tremor Control "Hideaway"
142. Goodie Mob "Cell Therapy"
141. Brian Eno/John Cale "Lay My Love"
140. Guns N' Roses "November Rain"
139. Acen "Trip II the Moon [Pt. 1 and 2]"
138. The Lemonheads "It's a Shame About Ray"
137. Pet Shop Boys "Being Boring"
136. UGK "One Day"
135. Super Furry Animals "Ice Hockey Hair"
134. Moby "Go"
133. Pearl Jam "Yellow Ledbetter"
132. Ice Cube "Wicked"
131. Unrest "Make Out Club"
130. Jawbox "Savory"
129. Cat Power "Cross Bones Style"
128. Supergrass "Caught By the Fuzz"
127. Digital Underground "The Humpty Dance"
126. Huggy Bear "Her Jazz"
125. Spacehog "In the Meantime"
124. James "Laid"
123. The Jesus Lizard "Mouth Breather"
122. Tricky "Christiansands"
121. Raekwon [ft. Method Man, Ghostface Killah and Cappadonna] "Ice Cream"
120. Eminem "My Name Is..."
119. Len "Steal My Sunshine"
118. Morrissey "Now My Heart Is Full"
117. Black Star [ft. Common] "Respiration"
116. The House Crew "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"
115. Black Sheep "The Choice is Yours (Revisited)"
114. TLC "Creep"
113. Cornershop "Brimful of Asha (Norman Cook Remix)"
112. Daniel Johnston "Some Things Last a Long Time"
111. The La's "There She Goes"
110. Common Sense "I Used to Love H.E.R."
109. Tortoise "Djed"
108. Warren G [ft. Nate Dogg] "Regulate"
107. 2Pac [ft. Shock G and Money-B] "I Get Around"
106. New Radicals "You Get What You Give"
105. Happy Mondays "Kinky Afro"
104. Ginuwine "Pony"
103. Silver Jews "Random Rules"
102. The Magnetic Fields "Book of Love"
101. Snoop Doggy Dogg "Gin & Juice"
100. Galaxie 500 "Fourth of July"
99. Ghost Town DJs "My Boo"
98. Elastica "Stutter"
97. Luniz "I Got 5 on It"
96. Primal Scream "Higher Than the Sun"
95. Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
94. Stereolab "French Disko"
93. Dinosaur Jr. "Start Choppin'"
92. Hole "Violet"
91. Jeff Buckley "Last Goodbye"
90. Ol' Dirty Bastard [ft. Kelis] "Got Your Money"
89. Smog "Teenage Spaceship"
88. Souls of Mischief "93 'Til Infinity"
87. Liz Phair "Fuck and Run"
86. Bell Biv DeVoe "Poison"
85. Air "All I Need"
84. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony "Tha Crossroads"
83. Sleater-Kinney "Dig Me Out"
82. Blackstreet [ft. Dr. Dre] "No Diggity"
81. Superchunk "Slack Motherfucker"
80. The KLF "Wichita Lineman Was a Song I Once Heard"
79. George Michael "Freedom! 90"
78. Erykah Badu "On & On"
77. Archers of Loaf "Web in Front"
76. D'Angelo "Brown Sugar"
75. Jim O'Rourke "Halfway to a Threeway"
74. Wilco "Via Chicago"
73. Disco Inferno "Love Stepping Out"
72. R.E.M. "Nightswimming"
71. Arthur Russell "This Is How We Walk on the Moon"
70. Boards of Canada "Roygbiv"
69. Basement Jaxx "Red Alert"
68. Saint Etienne "Avenue"
67. Bikini Kill "Rebel Girl"
66. The Cardigans "Lovefool"
65. Mary J. Blige "Real Love"
64. The Dismemberment Plan "The City"
63. Modest Mouse "Trailer Trash"
62. Jay-Z "Dead Presidents II"
61. Pixies "Alec Eiffel"
60. Sonic Youth "100%"
59. Deee-Lite "Groove Is in the Heart"
58. Fugazi "Repeater"
57. The Beta Band "Dry the Rain"
56. Godspeed You Black Emperor! "Moya"
55. Ghostface Killah "Daytona 500"
54. Portishead "Glory Box"
53. De La Soul "A Rollerskating Jam Named 'Saturdays'"
52. The Stone Roses "I Wanna Be Adored"
51. Public Enemy "Brothers Gonna Work It Out"
50. Oasis "Live Forever"
49. Yo La Tengo "Autumn Sweater"
48. Foo Fighters "Everlong"
47. PJ Harvey "Rid of Me"
46. Stardust "Music Sounds Better With You"
45. Geto Boys "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"
44. Massive Attack "Unfinished Sympathy"
43. The Chemical Brothers [ft. Noel Gallagher] "Setting Sun"
42. Nine Inch Nails "Closer"
41. The Pharcyde "Passin' Me By"
40. The Orb "Little Fluffy Clouds"
39. Beastie Boys "Sabotage"
38. A Tribe Called Quest "Check the Rhime"
37. Sinéad O'Connor "Nothing Compares 2 U"
36. Guided by Voices "Game of Pricks"
35. Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)"
34. New Order "Regret"
33. Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
32. Bonnie "Prince" Billy "I See a Darkness"
31. Underworld "Born Slippy .NUXX"
30. The Flaming Lips "Race for the Prize"
29. The Verve "Bitter Sweet Symphony"
28. Nas "It Ain't Hard to Tell"
27. Elliott Smith "Needle in the Hay"
26. Blur "Girls & Boys"
25. Mobb Deep "Shook Ones Part II"
24. Built to Spill "Car"
23. Spiritualized "Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space (Elvis Version)"
22. The Breeders "Cannonball"
21. The Smashing Pumpkins "1979"


20. DJ Shadow "Midnight in a Perfect World"
19. Mazzy Star "Fade Into You"
18. Daft Punk "Da Funk"
17. Belle and Sebastian "The State I Am In"
16. OutKast "Spottieottedopalicious"
15. Depeche Mode "Enjoy the Silence"
14. The Notorious B.I.G. "Juicy"
13. Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit”
12. Aphex Twin "Windowlicker"
11. Björk "Hyperballad"
10. Weezer "Say It Ain't So"
9. Beck "Loser"
8. Aaliyah "Are You That Somebody?"
7. Neutral Milk Hotel "Holland, 1945"
6. My Bloody Valentine "Only Shallow"
5. Wu-Tang Clan "Protect Ya Neck"
4. Radiohead "Paranoid Android"
2. Pulp "Common People"
1. Pavement "Gold Soundz"

[wmgaretjax]

MOre influential then Teen Sprit? Please. What a joke.

Who said this had anything to do with "influential."

Read their write up before the list.

[hendrixfan143]

Pavement gets the much needed Pitchfork bump. This probably would have worked out better for them if it was a few months before the tour started. But anyways. They are right Gold Soundz is the best song ever. but I am biased.

[Mr. Fuzz]

I don't know why Pitchfork disregards Experimental Jet Set, Trash And No Star. It’s a great fuckin album. They don’t even review the album or list it.

[Miroir Noir]

Because this isn't an album list?

Re: the P4K bump for Pavement. I still fail to comprehend how it was possible for me to show up at the Pavement set at Coachella this year five minutes before it started, and walk basically all the way to the front. I get that the sounds of contemporary indie are far, far away from Pavement's aesthetic, but still, they were the definitive underground American band of their decade.

[dorkfish]

Oh someone else did it.

[Mr. Fuzz]

Because this isn't an album list?

Re: the P4K bump for Pavement. I still fail to comprehend how it was possible for me to show up at the Pavement set at Coachella this year five minutes before it started, and walk basically all the way to the front. I get that the sounds of contemporary indie are far, far away from Pavement's aesthetic, but still, they were the definitive underground American band of their decade.
says pitchfork

[dorkfish]

who would you give it to?

[PassiveTheory]

Five bucks says the band in his avatar.

[Mr. Fuzz]

That's a solid question especially being that so many underground American band's broke into the mainstream during the nineties.

[wmgaretjax]

I'd put Sonic Youth above Pavement in that regard... But Gold Soundz is a perfectly admirable choice for best song.

[guedita]

It's a known fact that P4K has mandatory jerk off to Pavement sessions at company meetings.

[Miroir Noir]

The respective merits of Sonic Youth and Pavement could be debated endlessly, but is it really an open question as to which decade Sonic Youth did their best work in?

[Miroir Noir]

It's a known fact that P4K has mandatory jerk off to Pavement sessions at company meetings.
People would have said the same thing if they picked a Radiohead or MBV song, if not more so.

[guedita]

Please, company wide Radiohead jerk off sessions are too mainstream.

[ShyGuy75]

pavement? ha! what garbage. their list is now irrelevant. there was a reason that they were laughed at in the greatness that was the 90's. too bad none of the pitchfork writers are old enough to recall it.

paranoid android is one of the greatest songs ever created in the history of music. i would expect nothing less from the rococo's that work for pitchfork to not put it at #1. how anyone can take them seriously is beyond me.

[Mr. Fuzz]

I'm not the biggest Ok Computer fan and I do think that MBV is vastly overrated by Pitchfork. The real question is what decade hasn't Sonic Youth done their best work in? Sonic Youth's two greatest efforts were accomplished in the nineties. One is reaching mainstream success with the single "Bull in the Heather" and the other creating arguably one of the most epic songs ever..."The Diamond Sea".

[MuseRadio]

pavement? ha! what garbage. their list is now irrelevant. there was a reason that they were laughed at in the greatness that was the 90's. too bad none of the pitchfork writers are old enough to recall it.

paranoid android is one of the greatest songs ever created in the history of music. i would expect nothing less from the rococo's that work for pitchfork to not put it at #1. how anyone can take them seriously is beyond me.

Though I do like Pavement, I 100% agree with you. Most of the classic 90s stuff is far superior and Gold Soundz is a joke compared to songs like Closer or Paranoid Android.

[amyzzz]

pavement = :poo

[PotVsKtl]

Sonic Youth are kind of a boring band.

[hawkingvsreeve]

Your posts are boring.





SLAM! DUH DU- Wait.

Was Onyx not on this list?

[CellarOwl]

My friend and I were talking about this list last weekend and what would probably be on it. I guessed Pavement would take the top spot, but he said Common People would definitely be Top 5. I don't know if that's because Pitchfork is just predictable to begin with, or if it's become predictable after having seen 10 years of their dorky English major write-ups.

[faxman75]

Is there a place that gives the complete list without all the artwork and pitchfork descriptions? Just a straight list of the 200.

[PotVsKtl]

Is there a place that gives the complete list without all the artwork and pitchfork descriptions? Just a straight list of the 200.

Stare straight ahead.

[dorkfish]

this page

[PotVsKtl]

this page

WRONG.

[faxman75]

Ha!

I see Mr. Fuzz posted it. Thanks.

Lauryn Hill makes the list and the Fugees don't? Fail.

[Mr. Fuzz]

I found this John Peel list of the 90's...in order by year.

The Would Be's "I'm Hardly Ever Wrong" 1990
Nirvana "Sliver" 1990
Pavement "Summer Babe" 1990
Babes In Toyland "House" 1990
The Fall "A Lot Of Wind" 1991
PJ Harvey "Dress" 1991
Wayne Wonder & Cutty Ranks "Lambada" 1991
Diblo & Le Groupe Loketo "Joie De Vivre" 1991
Dr Devious & His Wisemen "Cyberdream" 1992
Anthony Red Rose "Tempo" 1992
The Wedding Present "Silver Shorts" 1992
Sonic Youth "Sugar Kane" 1992
New Decade "Statue Of Gold" 1993
Elastica "Stutter" 1993
New Bad Things "I Suck" 1993
Shaba Kahamba "Bitumba" 1993
Stereolab "**** Pong" 1994
Inspiral Carpets feat Mark E. Smith "I Want You" 1994
Orbital "Are We Here (industry Standard mix)" 1994
Canopy & Matrix "Arkines Lost" 1994
Dreadzone "Zion Youth" 1995
Pulp "Sorted For E's & Whizz" 1995
Long Fin Killie & Mark E. Smith "Heads Of Dead Surfers" 1995
Safe Deposit "You Can't" 1995
Dick Dale "Nitrus" 1996
Belle & Sebastian "The State I'm In" 1996
Kenickie "Come Out 2 Nite" 1996
DJ Kaos "Hold Me Now" 1996
Inter "Happy Ending" 1997
Clinic "IPC Subeditors Dictate Our Youth" 1997
Helen Love "Does Your Heart Go Boom" 1997
The Delgados "Pull The Wires From The Wall" 1997
Derrero "Radar Intruder" 1998
Entity Squad "Du fährst mich verrückt" 1998
Half Man Half Biscuit "Turn A Blind Eye" 1998
Boards of Canada "Aquarius" 1998
Cay "Princes & Princesses" 1999
Yo La Tengo "It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry" 1999
Monkey Steals the Drum "Injured Birds" 1999
Princess Kaiulani "Alamoana Fade Away" 1999
Brian and Tony Gold "Not Perfect" 1999

[SoulDischarge]

The Vaselines review seems just a bit harsh. Not totally inaccurate or anything, but it's far too enjoyable to be written off as "retrograde and maybe even beneath them."

[guedita]

The Vaselines review seems just a bit harsh. Not totally inaccurate or anything, but it's far too enjoyable to be written off as "retrograde and maybe even beneath them."

I agree. Also, the review today of TMoE is so overwrought and sappy I actually gagged reading it. I can't believe assholes get paid by this website to write like this:

They're unmistakably Tallest, marked by the vulnerability in Kristian Matsson's croak of a voice, the strident complexity of his guitarwork, and his thoughtful, often fractured lyrics inspired, ostensibly, by his native Sweden-- specifically the mountainous region of Dalarna, northwest of Stockholm. And yet, despite the same elements, Blues has a very different character from The Wild Hunt. It's slightly darker, more wounded, muted, and meditative, lacking the fanfare of the album's more heraldic moments. While limited in scope and tone, the EP allows Matsson to explore one particular mood: a primary color in his palette, a bluesy melancholy that defines and permeates every song here.

[SoulDischarge]

I honestly don't see what's wrong with that. It does a pretty good job of conveying a mood to someone who hasn't heard it yet.

[HandBanana]

They can eat a dick over the Everything Everything review.
If they were boring, droney, unremarkable, and from Brooktown they would have gotten a 9.9.9.8.

[guedita]

It's the grammatical structure, coupled with a bunch of arrogant, overtly sentimental adjectives that irritates me. Sadness (a bluesy melancholy) permeates and defines the songs? It's superfluous writing for the sake of superfluity and the desire to come off as pensive.

5 songs EPs rarely deserve such lengthy reviews.

[Gribbz]

If they were boring, droney, unremarkable, and from Brooktown they would have gotten a 9.9.9.8.

Or if the album contained an Arcade Fire cover.

[HandBanana]

Side issue: bad synth and indie folk are apparently the new punk in that the barrier to entry is so god damn low that pretty much everyone is making irrelevant, interchangeable records in those styles.

Actually, that's not a new thing but Ive been meaning to vent about it.

[guedita]

I'd like to complain about the fact that Pitchfork has an article up now that lists their Top 40 Favorite Artist Twitters.

[send me ctrpllrs]

Yeah that it is pretty ridiculous, but I did find a few that I didn't know about and am now following.

[MissingPerson]

I miss Ed Droste's Twitter. Come back, Ed Droste. I'm also surprised that they mentioned both Owen Pallett and Wayne Coyne's Twitter feeds without mentioning what Owen Pallett said about Wayne Coyne in his Twitter feed.

And I know they've a good reason for mentioning Jay Reatard, but it's still weird.

[Jman4321]

Cue shitstorm.

[suprefan]

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14880-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/

[Miroir Noir]

As I mentioned in the Kanye thread, I think this is the first 10.0 on a brand new release since YHF. Eight and a half years!

[SoulDischarge]

Hipsters.

[guedita]

That review does barely any reviewing. But I'm glad to be reminded again of Kanye's successful twitter account.

[bballarl]

Wow. 10.0 huh? I mean, it is a pretty awesome album. Easily his most dense, and probably the most truly "him" in his catalog. But wow.