The Official Boxing/MMA thread

[marooko]

I liked how they kept saying he "made it ugly...".

[natureboy]

Last night's UFC 131 Post-Fight Press Conference

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And coming up next...

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and then...

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[marooko]

Pretty good PPV this weekend.

I felt they talked Nunes up a lot. Watching some of his earlier fights, I figured his best chance was the fact that this was the first time Florian was fighting at 145. I also think Florian may be in for a world of hurt at 145. Sucks cause I like him.

[natureboy]

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[marooko]

Oh man. I'm downloading this now because we don't have Showtime.

[dorkfish]

I'm kind of conflicted. Part of me thinks that the Kongo win was awesome and it's good to see a ref let them fight it out definitively, but any other night would have had a fight stoppage when Kongo was getting pummeled, so another part of me feels that it's a bit unfair to Barry.

[koryp]

At first I felt bad for Barry. He actually was waking Kongo back up with those shots. His stroll over to Kongo with his hands down to finish him however are what left him open for getting clipped. He knew better and was showboating. He paid the price with getting knocked the fuck out. It was kind of like watching Chris Leben. I never understand how some guys can just throw from instinct after getting concussed. I'm useless after stubbing my toe.

[dorkfish]

I'm sure they've been hit in the chin more times than you and I have stubbed our toes combined. You must get used to it and develop puncher instincts.

I feel less bad for Barry, now. You're right. The replay shows that there was no way that Kongo should have cleanly landed either punch. Barry barely tried to throw a glove in the way of the first punch and was hopeless to block the second punch since he started flailing.

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It'll get taken down soon enough.

[marooko]

I never understand how some guys can just throw from instinct after getting concussed. I'm useless after stubbing my toe.

Training training and more training. Stub your toe more often. ha!

Dorkfish, I am a little conflicted as well. Miragliotta came in to stop then pulled his hands back, and I think he feels horrible about that. I personally felt he wanted Barry to win, with that said, I think he is a very fair referee. At the end of the match he just looked bummed out.

Back to him coming in and pulling his arms back; I think that if Barry would have noticed this and stopped, Miragliotta would have resumed with the stoppage, but we'll never know. I also feel Barry got way too excited and went from throwing clean punches which put Kongo on his ass, to throwing short, fast and wild punches that eventually got him knocked out. Whether or not Miragliotta stopped that fight, Barry should have gotten that win. He just came in sloppy -- as mentioned by others -- and paid the price. Kongo could barely plant himself to throw those punches.

But holy mother effing shit that was awesome!!

Mark Matheny. <-- This guy should be put in a Kimura repeatedly until he understands what it is, the setup and the outcome. What a fucking ass hat!! Even before that he was screaming for action whenever a fight touched the ground. Dude, if you want to ref. a stand-up bout go ref. some fucking boxing.

[Somewhat Damaged]

That was pretty awesome. It looked to me like Kongo kept on moving after each knockdown and was never seemingly defenseless for even a second, which justifies the ref not stopping it at those times. With Barry, when he got laid out, he wasn't doing jack shit besides lying there.

[marooko]

I just watched the posted viedo: It sucks that it cuts right before Barry says "I had him out." If you have it at home or can get it, watch it, you can easily read his lips.

[natureboy]

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[natureboy]

Nick Diaz no-showed both of the UFC 137 Press Conferences in Canada then Las Vegas so Dana White has replaced him with Carlos Condit for the main event.

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[BeaverCat]

Nick's response. What a mega douche. He blew the opportunity of a lifetime.

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[marooko]

I was just coming in to discuss this. What a fucking asshat!!

[natureboy]

So disappointing. I was really looking forward to that fight. Well, the bright side is that I actually have a wedding to attend that night and wouldn't have been able to watch it live anyway.

[marooko]

I think the wrestling would have been too much for him anyway. It's too much for good wrestlers.

[tyles]

Diaz's career is over. He also should get help at Charter because the dude has the crazy.

Either way, GSP retains the title in October.

[bluemamba]

Anyone else excited for the Mayweather-Ortiz event tomorrow?? the undercard is stacked.

[marooko]

Not at all. Bellator and UFC are on tomorrow night. I'm a little more excited for the Bellator tournament.

[bluemamba]

Eh, I guess. Floyd makes my top 5 favorite boxers to watch so can't miss that.

I like MMA and all but the fights end too quick sometimes.

[obzen]

So... what just happened?

[Neighborhood Creep]

So... what just happened?

Ref didn't say they could fight. Mayweather socked him and nothing happened so he dropped him. I would be pissed if I paid to watch in person or tv. Coulda been a decent fight too.

[obzen]

The rumors are DQ upon appeal? Ha, wtf is going on?!

[Neighborhood Creep]

Damn, ring announcer "if i was 50 years younger I would kick your ass" that's the most classic thing I have ever heard hahahahhahahaha

[Neighborhood Creep]

More entertaining than the Tyson vs Holyfield fight, IMO

[gmoneyak]

The post-fight interview was worth the price of admission.

[gmoneyak]

PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIME... The fight looked like it was back ON, when Mayweather clocked him. Joe Cortez only called time to take the point away.

[moustache]

Damn, ring announcer "if i was 50 years younger I would kick your ass" that's the most classic thing I have ever heard hahahahhahahaha

THIS LOL

[blackchango]

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[Gribbz]

So, Mayweather sucker punched him? And then proceeded to talk shit to the announcer? What happened? That video doesn't tell a whole lot...

[digitaldragon03]

I have never been in so much shock during fight since Holyfield-Tyson. I laughed for a good 15 minutes after that interview.

[prickly]

So 4th round, ortiz gets some good punches on mayweather and they pretty much get face to face. Out of adrenaline I'm guessing, ortiz headbutts Floyd but it wasn't THAT bad. Ref breaks it up and ortiz is apologizing like a mad man and right when they touch each others gloves, Floyd sucker punches ortiz twice when the ref wasn't even looking.

[Gribbz]

So 4th round, ortiz gets some good punches on mayweather and they pretty much get face to face. Out of adrenaline I'm guessing, ortiz headbutts Floyd but it wasn't THAT bad. Ref breaks it up and ortiz is apologizing like a mad man and right when they touch each others gloves, Floyd sucker punches ortiz twice when the ref wasn't even looking.

Thank you, sir.


The rest of you are awful.

[Miroir Noir]

I may be in the minority, but I think the fan man fight out-weirded Tyson/Holyfield.

So are we going to get Mayweather/Pacquiao this time next year, or is the sport still too fucked up to give us the biggest fight of the last twenty years?

[tigermilkboy]

Wow! That was a memorable night out!

[gmoneyak]

For real, though.. There really was no need for Ortiz to apologize more then once, he hugged and kissed him during the timeout. They touched gloves when the fight resumed as well, Ortiz should've been on guard. He fucked up.. He knew it afterwards.

[digitaldragon03]

The smug look on Larry Merhcant after telling off Mayweather was the best part of the night.

[prickly]

It was fair but still didnt make it right.

[gmoneyak]

That split second when he glanced at the camera during Money May's lil' tirade, was hilarious..

[Neighborhood Creep]

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[Mr. Dylanja]

Yeah, I don't know.

You can blame Ortiz, you can blame Mayweather, and you can blame the ref. Hard to believe that could've happened but it did. Mayweather had is guard up the entire time and they did touch gloves, so...

[Gribbz]

I didn't see the fight.

But if you touch gloves... that's it. Game on.

Every boxer knows that.

[Mr. Dylanja]

I couldn't help but think of Million Dollar Baby, lol. "Protect yourself at all times."

[gmoneyak]

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Fuck YES.

[Neighborhood Creep]

I didn't see the fight.

But if you touch gloves... that's it. Game on.

Every boxer knows that.

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[marooko]

That's dirty as hell. The dude is pulling away from a hug with his hands down and the ref is looking away.

The head butt was also dirty as fuck.

[obzen]

Concur on both counts.


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[tigermilkboy]

I have actually seen this type of thing happen a few times in boxing, so it is not unprecedented in boxing. Unusual to see in a pro title fight though.
But I have seen it in amateurs and in a four round pro fight-on that occasion it was the start of the fourth and final round, one guy offers to touch gloves but the other guy mugged him with a right and KO'ed him.

[tigermilkboy]

There was a supreme irony that I was sat in the exact same seat last night at the MGM, that I sat in almost 15 years ago for Tyson-Holyfield II (the ear biting one).

[Mr. Dylanja]

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[marooko]

Pay-Per-View Bouts - 9:00 p.m. ET
Jon Jones vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
Matt Hughes vs. Josh Koscheck
Rob Broughton vs. Travis Browne
Nate Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi
Mark Hunt vs. Ben Rothwell A few years ago I would have picked Hunt.

Spike TV Preliminary Bouts - 8:00 p.m. ET
Tony Ferguson vs. Aaron Riley
Tim Boetsch vs. Nick Ring

Preliminary Bouts
James Te Huna vs. Ricardo Romero
Cole Escovedo vs. Takeya Mizugaki
Junior Assuncao vs. Eddie Yagin

[Distorted_Jungle]

You forgot the main event. I honestly don't think Rampage has a very good chance at winning this fight from the recent matches I've seen from both guys. Koscheck will also probably win but I hope he doesn't because I hate that fuckin guy.

[marooko]

Most definitely, I think it's gonna be a bad night for rampage. Although if he connects, Jones may very well go to sleep.

I feel the same way about Hughes. I hope he wins, I just don't think he's gonna. He goes to sleep too quickly and Koscheck has been working on some good striking.

[Mr. Dylanja]

I used to despise Koscheck, but he's grown on me and now I find myself pulling for him.

I also like Bones Jones to win.

[marooko]

When koscheck grows up and cuts out the bleach job, I'll reconsider my feelings towards him.

[Distorted_Jungle]

I just hate arrogant fighters that have had 2 title shots and lost both, and lost them in the fashion he lost his last one.

[marooko]

That's exactly why I mentioned the hair. When he loses the douche bag attitude, I'd imagine he'll lose the bleached look as well.

[Mr. Dylanja]

But I thought "frostin' the tips" was timeless...

[marooko]

Riley got his jaw broken AGAIN! Poor guy needs to get that thing fixed up properly.

[concertgoer]

I love Rampage, but I think Bones is gonna fuck him up tonight

[dorkfish]

Jones is a beautiful fighter.

[koryp]

Jones looked so good tonight in the toughest conditions possible. If he can fight like that in Denver, no one stands a chance at sea level. All together a B- event, but I wouldn't have wanted to miss any of those fights except for Hunt/Rothwell.

I predict next week's PFP rankings
1. Silva
2. GSP
3. Jones
4. Aldo

With a few #2 votes for Jones.

[BigBryan]

Yea I went to the bar to watch the fights. Fans watching love(ed) Rampage as a fighter and character, as do I, but consensus from everyone was Bones Jones was going to take him.

I was surprised how much people liked Matt Hughes for his fight against Koscheck. That fight went pretty much as I expected.

I missed the first fight with Nate Diaz, but heard/read he looked really good.

[koryp]

Diaz was amazing in that fight. He belongs at 155. It's sad to see Gomi fade, but it had to happen.

[marooko]

I'm surprised Rogan was able to even speak with Diaz' cock so far down his throat.

Jones needs to protect the leg. He was limping like hell walking out of the ring.

Hughes was looking much better than I thought. Recovered fairly well after the first and second hard shot, then it was nighty night time. I thought he would lose but was still rooting for him, I can't stand Koscheck.

If Romero is gonna rely on the shot, he'd better learn how execute it.


Pay-Per-View Bouts - 9:00 p.m. ET
Jon Jones vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
Matt Hughes vs. Josh Koscheck
Rob Broughton vs. Travis Browne
Nate Diaz vs. Takanori Gomi
Mark Hunt vs. Ben Rothwell A few years ago I would have picked Hunt.

Spike TV Preliminary Bouts - 8:00 p.m. ET
Tony Ferguson vs. Aaron Riley
Tim Boetsch vs. Nick Ring

Preliminary Bouts
James Te Huna vs. Ricardo Romero
Cole Escovedo vs. Takeya Mizugaki
Junior Assuncao vs. Eddie Yagin

Not a bad pick night for me.

[koryp]

Jones injured that foot when Jackson checked a kick and it landed on the knee instead of quad. You could see him having trouble putting his weight back on it after he made contact.

Good job on the picks.

[marooko]

I missed that. I was fairly bent about that time, I just noticed the limp after the fight.

Not that Hunt was in great shape, but I totally expected him to act the way Rothwell did.

[koryp]

I'm watching it again right now to give you the time mark. I think it's in round 3.

Heavyweights at that altitude will always be winded. Their lungs aren't big enough to support that much activity with so little available O2. It's a limitation of human anatomy that training cannot overcome.

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Round 3 1:13 remaining. He hits the knee and takes an extra second to replant his stance. He has a limp after, but fought on. Possible broken foot and then still beats Rampage's ass.

[marooko]

That was a great submission. Even with an attempted defense.

[koryp]

I'm not quick to jump on a hype train because in the top 10 of every division anybody has at least a chance of winning, but I'm watching the post fight press conference and honestly, Jon Jones may be the best MMA fight we have ever seen. It's just a matter of letting him prove it to us. Rampage doesn't give out complements easily, but he's sold on this fact already.

[marooko]

Didn't watch the press conference, but he spoke highly of him right after the fight. Told everyone in the weight class to watch out. Pretty crazy. He's definitely good.

I'm not on the hype train that wants to see him fight Silva, I'd rather he defend his belt a couple of times. Machida defended it once (arguably losing that fight) and was then put to sleep. He's been the only one to do so since Liddell lost it.

[koryp]

The significance of the title defense is huge for this division. Dana mentioned the plan of Jones moving to heavyweight if he cleans out the LHW division. By the time that happens Anderson won't be relevant enough for it to have real meaning. It would sell tickets however.

[BigBryan]

Wanted to share the latest episode of my podcast with this thread. We had Tony Liccione on as a guest. He's the President of the Rochester Boxing Hall of Fame and is resurrecting something called the Hickok Belt award which was once the most prestigious award in all of sports.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/spentradio/2011/10/08/spentradiocom-friday-wrap-up

Interesting listen as he gives his thoughts on MMA/UFC. He's not much of a fan, but doesn't hate it as much as those who are outspoken against it. He sees and recognizes the growth of the sport even as an old school boxing fan.

Not trying to spam, I just thought you guys might enjoy.

[bluemamba]

I'm not on the hype train that wants to see him fight Silva, I'd rather he defend his belt a couple of times. Machida defended it once (arguably losing that fight) and was then put to sleep. He's been the only one to do so since Liddell lost it.

Pretty sure Quinton defended the LHW title once vs Henderson.

[marooko]

You are absolutely correct, sir. Champion vs. Champion. Wow. And then to lose it to Forrest.

[bluemamba]

Bones looked pretty good vs Quinton. i think at this point the only two who have a chance to beat him is either Machida or Rashad and his suspect chin.

[bluemamba]

Chael Sonnen is a beast!! That post fight interview was pretty awesome.

[marooko]

What's up with the recent talk of Penn fighting for the title if he beats Diaz? Do people really want to see him fight GSP again? Was the last beating not decisive enough?

I watched their last meeting live. Penn fans were so silent by round three that you could hear his head banging off the mat when he was eating those elbows. HAHAHAHAHA!! I'll never forget that sound.

[BigBryan]

What's up with the recent talk of Penn fighting for the title if he beats Diaz? Do people really want to see him fight GSP again? Was the last beating not decisive enough?

I watched their last meeting live. Penn fans were so silent by round three that you could hear his head banging off the mat when he was eating those elbows. HAHAHAHAHA!! I'll never forget that sound.

While I would foresee a similar result as their last fight, even before all the switcheroo(s) the Condit vs. Penn fight was looked at as a #1 contender fight. That pretty much held when Diaz was moved down to the semi-main. I think the only reason there may be heavier GSP vs. Penn talk is because people dont like Diaz in this fight against Penn.

[marooko]

Whatever the reason, I have little interest in even seeing Penn at 170. Doesn't matter who he fights.

[Miroir Noir]

Who the hell knows what the actually motives and intentions are with this, but Floyd wants to fight on May 5 and he wants it to be the "biggest fight possible." (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7184086/floyd-mayweather-jr-wants-make-biggest-fight-possible-5)

[Mr. Dylanja]

Did anybody watch Kirkland vs. Angulo tonight? WOW! Easily one of the best rounds I've ever seen.

It's not the best footage, but here it is...
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[bluemamba]

I was trying to catch this fight but couldn't. I'm very surprised kirkland pulled this off. I didn't think his chin would hold up.

[marooko]

FOX on UFC this weekend!!

First off, who's watching and who do you got? Secondly, what does it all mean?! Has MMA hit the mainstream, is this the first step/chance? How do you feel about it? We ready for "Big Country" to be eating a bowl of Chunky soup?

[marooko]

So how about Dos Santos? Glad he got the win, and in a beautiful fashion.

Did anyone catch the facebook fights? Henderson/Guida was pretty freaking good, as were the rest of the fights. Not a bad card if you caught it all, but probably not too thrilled if you only caught the Fox broadcast.

[Neighborhood Creep]

Anyone know of a free live stream

[Miroir Noir]

Reading the live blogs, I am regretting not plopping down the $60 for this fight.

[Neighborhood Creep]

114-114, 116-112, 115-113 Pacquiao by majority decision.

[Miroir Noir]

Wow, definitely setting the DVR for the HBO replay.

[MR.NOVEMBER]

That was complete bullshit. Marquez had that win. There was so many times where pacquiao looked frustrated and was swinging wildly and missing his shots. I give up on boxing.

[tigermilkboy]

That was close. I scored it 114-114 draw, but I can see either guy getting it. Glad I was there to see it.

[tigermilkboy]

That was complete bullshit. Marquez had that win. There was so many times where pacquiao looked frustrated and was swinging wildly and missing his shots. I give up on boxing.

C'mon it was close and as ever in a close fight that you let go to the judges, you take your chances. I could have scored 2-3 rounds either way.

[MR.NOVEMBER]

Hbo can't afford to hand manny a loss right before the supposed mayweather fight. specially not to an opponent that mayweather dominated already.

[marooko]

Fixed fights. Boxing is never not exciting.

[gmoneyak]

Boxing didn't want to lose that Mayweather $$, what a bullshit decision.. Pacquiao is a juicer who should've lost his 4th fight tonight.

[buddy]

Manny won the fight, and I had Marquez winning for a bit. Relax folks. Manny's never been caught juicing. No matter what Mayweather's camp wants you to believe.

[marooko]

Boxing conspiracies are just as fun as government conspiracies. It's pretty interesting.

[adrianisgnarly]

How about that Velasquez-dos Santos fight? Didn't expect it to end that way.

[marooko]

How 'bout it?


So how about Dos Santos? Glad he got the win, and in a beautiful fashion.

Did anyone catch the facebook fights? Henderson/Guida was pretty freaking good, as were the rest of the fights. Not a bad card if you caught it all, but probably not too thrilled if you only caught the Fox broadcast.

I picked him for the knockout win, just not so quick in the first.

[gaypalmsprings]

UFC® CHAMPION ANDERSON SILVA TO SERVE AS OFFICIAL PACE CAR DRIVER FOR KOBALT TOOLS 500 AT PIR

The world’s number one fighter to step out of Octagon® and into race car on Nov. 13
Undefeated UFC® middleweight champion Anderson Silva will lead the field to the green flag behind the wheel of the Official Pace Car – Toyota Venza – at the start of the Kobalt Tools 500 at Phoenix International Raceway on Sunday, Nov. 13. As the official pace car driver in Phoenix’s NASCAR Chase for the Sprint Cup event, the 36-year-old mixed martial artist will take an honorary lap on the newly repaved and reconfigured one-mile oval.

“I've been a NASCAR fan for a long time and it's an honor to be part of the upcoming event in Phoenix," Silva said. "I have much respect for these guys and they are undoubtedly some of the toughest athletes in the world. I can't wait to get in the pace car in Phoenix.”

Widely regarded as the No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world, Silva is the UFC’s longest reigning champion, with 14 consecutive wins – a streak that has lasted five and a half years. He has been proclaimed by UFC president Dana White as “the greatest fighter in the history of mixed martial arts” and is ranked as the No. 1 middleweight in the world by multiple publications.

[marooko]

That' pretty cool news. Didn't know Silva was a NASCAR fan.

[natureboy]

Olympian Judoka "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey is on tonight's Strikeforce Challengers on Showtime.

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[natureboy]

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[natureboy]

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[natureboy]

And don't forget this jem.

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[marooko]

No way would I buy that Fedor/Monson card. What a train wreck.

As for the others, the DVR is SET!! The last month or two and upcoming month and a half have been, and will be great for MMA. So freaking much going on. Love it!

[natureboy]

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UFC 139 Shogun vs. Hendo (Gracie Breakdown) (http://youtu.be/_G5HpN7SLHk)

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Bellator 58 - Full Fight: Eddie Alvarez vs. Michael Chandler (http://youtu.be/HziG9DBfJf0)

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UFC 140: Jones vs Machida Preview (http://youtu.be/2ZvOsZwFUZ8)

[bluemamba]

That was complete bullshit. Marquez had that win. There was so many times where pacquiao looked frustrated and was swinging wildly and missing his shots. I give up on boxing.
You don't know what goes into scoring a boxing match.


C'mon it was close and as ever in a close fight that you let go to the judges, you take your chances. I could have scored 2-3 rounds either way.

This. Personally i had it 114-114, a tie. There were some rounds that could've gone either way. Two out of the three judges had legit scorecards; 114-114 and 115-113. The judge that had it 116-112 needs to kill himself though. No way does Marquez only win 4 rounds. At worst, he won at least 5.

[natureboy]

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[tigermilkboy]

This. Personally i had it 114-114, a tie. There were some rounds that could've gone either way. Two out of the three judges had legit scorecards; 114-114 and 115-113. The judge that had it 116-112 needs to kill himself though. No way does Marquez only win 4 rounds. At worst, he won at least 5.


I scored the bout 114-114 when I watched it at the MGM. Watching the replay I had it 115-113.

If Marquez had fought the last round and won it, then he would have got a draw from the judges. He got some bad advice from his corner.

Fun fight to watch all the same.

[marooko]

Alvares/Chandler was a way better fight than Rua/Henderson. And that's saying a lot considering how good that fight was.

[koryp]

I really enjoyed the Alvarez/Chandler fight. As entertaining as the Rua/Hendo fight was, I was not as impressed by it. Both guys had their shining moments, but I felt more like I was just watching two evenly matched fighters which doesn't really help for determining how good either is. That fight was a solid draw.

The Fedor fight Sunday morning was just fuckin sad.

[marooko]

I don't think ti was a draw, Hendo owned the first three rounds. And as for Fedor/Moson, I can't even believe that was a PPV event. Yikes. I've yet to watch it, but this is the first time I'm even hearing news about it. Double yikes.

Alvarez/Chandler was just insane. Now that Alvarez lost the title, hopefully he can find a way in to the UFC.

[koryp]

I'd like to see him in the UFC, but realize that Bellator now has some real money to pay it's stars since the were bought out. Guys are having to decide if they want to be in the mix in the UFC or top of the heap in Bellator. The Spike deal will also increase their sponsorship payments. airtime equals bottom line for fighters. Sponsors pay way more for a fighter wearing their logo in the main event on bellator than the facebook prelims for UFC.

[marooko]

Very good points. Although I'd like to believe, even with the loss, Alvarez would be higher up than the facebook cards. With that said, I'd imagine he wants to fight more than he currently does. but I guess with this loss he will get more fights.

I hope Bellator fixes this issue come 2012. I find it pretty lame that a title holder can lose a fight and not his belt. Not in this case, but in others.

I'd also like to see a challenge to the UFC, so sticking around in Bellator could be a good thing for a lot of good fighters. And for fans.

[natureboy]

I hope Bellator fixes this issue come 2012. I find it pretty lame that a title holder can lose a fight and not his belt. Not in this case, but in others.

I don't mind as much. M'Pumbu was the first casualty followed by Joe Warren but I think it just adds an extra element to when they actually do defend their title. Plus the way Joe Warren went out was awesome.

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When they get to go to Spike in 2013 will be great. Hopefully they can fine tune things in the next year and pick up some bigger names.

[koryp]

After the heavyweight tourney in February, the showtime talks will "fall through" and bellator will pick up the strikeforce leftovers.

[marooko]

Tonight was an all around great night of fights.

[Mugwog]

That Brazilian guy with the quick submission after he ran into the punch is a great fighter to watch. Saw his fight before tonight's match and it seems his specialty move is the Tiger Knee
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[marooko]

That was absolutely impressive. He got dropped hard, then an immediate defense attempt with the legs, took more shots and saw the mistake. The way he turned his hips and the power and speed he used to make that happen was amazing to watch.

[natureboy]

Tonight was an all around great night of fights.

Mayhem's performance was pretty disappointing but everything else was pretty solid. Diego's armbar was slick as hell. I really like that kid.

And on the boxing tip, good for Cotto. Pretty obvious Marg was cheating in the first fight from the look of Cotto's face in this one. Too bad they didn't let him get his ass beat even more.

[marooko]

Yeah other than that performance, it was good all around. Even in that, it was a pretty decent fight, I just wish he wouldn't have gassed. He had good control in the first round, and even though tired, he did try to stay as active as he could. Up until the turtle move in round 3.

[marooko]

White doesn't say shit about his comments on a female reporter saying something he didn't like, Rashad stays in with a direct comment about a child molester, but Torres is out for a rape van tweet? WTF?!

[natureboy]

White doesn't say shit about his comments on a female reporter saying something he didn't like, Rashad stays in with a direct comment about a child molester, but Torres is out for a rape van tweet? WTF?!

Yeah, pretty lame. I have no problem with the cut as long as Evans and Forrest got it too. Some major double standard stuff going on.

[natureboy]

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[koryp]

Miguel didn't even use the word rape in the tweet. Dana just cut a guy that'll make a lot of money for Bellator. Oh well.

In Dana White's defence, Maggie Hendricks is a stupid cunt.

[marooko]

I thought he did in the original tweet.

And I was referring to Loretta Hunt. He fucking reamed her and no big deal.

[marooko]

Why is there no talk about the awesomeness that was this fight card last night? Jones got tested and Mir took another arm home. Not just anyone's arm, Big Nogs arm.

Pretty damn good night.

[Distorted_Jungle]

I missed this Saturday's fights. :/ I hear the main event was a really great fight.

Thoughts on the flyweight division getting added in March? I'm not familiar with this division at all, any idea how this division will shape up marooko?

[marooko]

I don't know too many of them, mostly guys are fighting at 135 because 125 isn't very big. You've got Tachi Palace and other mid sized local places that have them, but it isn't too big. I think it's gonna be a great move, I find the smaller fighters to be very exciting. Usually very face paced fights.

The main event this past weekend was pretty damn good. If you can, locate it online and check it out. Even the co-main was pretty awesome.

Video and picture both linked to from Sherdog.com

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Mir-Talks-Nogueira-Injury-3515

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20111210102945_ws.JPG
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UFC 48, 2004. Tim Silvia has his radius bone broken.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/548/134/mirarmbar_original_display_image.jpg?1320986661

Both fights were refereed by Herb Dean.


Roid boy Overeem may not get a license to fight. Good way to fuck up after you drop your longtime camp, that you're currently in a lawsuit with. Asshat!

[natureboy]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.mmafighting.com/media/2011/12/095lyotomachidavsjonjones.jpg

[marooko]

Wow! I hadn't seen that picture. When he let him go and he just fell like a sack of potatoes, that was freaking crazy!

[natureboy]

What do you think about how Jones dropped Machida on his face after he knew he was knocked out? Or that Greg Jackson told him to check on Machida afterwards to "get some fans." (http://www.cagepotato.com/video-greg-jackson-coaches-jon-jones-on-post-fight-etiquette/). I think Bones Jones is a bad motherfucker and the future Heavyweight Champion of the world but there's something a bit off about him.

[marooko]

That shit is funny. I need to listen to some interviews and see if they ask either of them about that.

I think the guy is a douche bag. But I give him a little bit of slack considering he's on top of the Mixed Martial Arts world at the age of 24. I'm sure he tweets, has a facebook and checks in to news, or at the least hears about it. He went from an entry level pro fighter, to a prospect, to a world champion in under three years. This is in no way a justification for his actions, but it's gotta be tough to get there that fast.

He was super humble at first, very polite guy. Then he started getting crap about it. Having all these people talking, offering money, contracts and a bunch of other BS I'm sure is tough to handle. Especially when the most important thing to you at the time is training. He's got a lot to learn in an effort to win back some fans. I'm kind of off and on about how I feel about him. Like I said, I think he's a douche, but he is also an outstanding fighter dealing with a lot of stuff. He's just dealing with it poorly right now and hopefully he straightens up.

I also think it was good for Jackson to coach him on that, obviously someone needs to. But it totally sucks that it's on video with audio.

As for actually dropping Lyoto, I think that too is a little douchey, but I also think it's getting too much attention. Should he have carried him in his arms to the doctor? I don't mean that literally, there could have been some middle ground with how he handled it. Again, he's just handling this poorly. Maybe his humble start in the UFC was a front and the guy is a complete asshole. Maybe he beats his lady. What do we do about it?

[ods..]

I didn't watch the fights this weekend, but I really want to see this choke+drop! You guys know where I can find a video? UFC does a great job of wiping it from youtube (obvi).

[natureboy]

Here's what Greg Jackson said about it to MMAJunkie.com (http://mmajunkie.com/news/26512/trainer-jackson-clarifies-get-some-fans-comments-following-jones-ufc-140-win.mma):


"I shouldn't have spoken in that way, but that wasn't my intention," Jackson today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "It sounded bad, but moronic [expletive] comes out of my mouth sometimes."

The intention, he said, wasn't to be political but to remind Jones to conduct himself honorably inside the cage.

"What I was saying was, 'Go check on Lyoto,' what I meant was to remember that you're a public figure," Jackson said. "There's always attention on you and what you're doing all the time, and there's cage etiquette. There's things you're supposed to do, and going and checking on somebody is what you're supposed to do.

"And now because I'm in military mode and in shorthand mode, I say, 'Jon, go check on Lyoto and go get some fans,' and what I should have said was, 'You're a public figure. There's a way to conduct yourself.' But instead, I shorthanded it."

[natureboy]

I didn't watch the fights this weekend, but I really want to see this choke+drop! You guys know where I can find a video? UFC does a great job of wiping it from youtube (obvi).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/bones.gif

[Distorted_Jungle]

I think it just shows immaturity on he part of Jones. Look at Anderson Silva, I think that is the prime example of how a champion should act. Sounds like a typical thing to say but it's true. He's a bad ass at what he does, that's for sure, but be humble not a dumb ass. I want to see Silva step up and fight him, that fight would be a million times more entertaining than if GSP stepped up to fight Silva. That's the new super fight that should be in the works, especially since Silva has stepped up and fought at that weight previously.

[ods..]

Thanks natureboy. That commentary is very true also.

[marooko]

Definitely immature the way he's handling it. But I'm sure it's hard to deal with all that at the age of 24.

And thank you for saying Silva should move up. I'm sick of hearing Jones moving down, doing this, doing that. The guy defended the belt at light heavyweight twice. this is the first time its happened since 2007. Let him reign as champ at this weight class for a little if that happens to be how it plays out. As for Silva, if anyone should move around it's him or GSP. They've been dominating their respective weight classes for a while now, with no serious challenger in site. Well, except for Diaz, but I think the wrestling GSP has is gonna be his defeat.

[natureboy]

Mir's sub of Noguiera was awesome. Glad he cleared any doubt about who the better fighter was. Beautiful jits.

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[marooko]

That was beautiful ground work.

[ods..]

That was fucking sick.

video-edit: BOOM

[marooko]

Now he's got a complete arm. He took a lower arm in 04, now an upper arm. HA!

[Distorted_Jungle]

Here's what Greg Jackson said about it to


"I shouldn't have spoken in that way, but that wasn't my intention," Jackson today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "It sounded bad, but moronic [expletive] comes out of my mouth sometimes."

The intention, he said, wasn't to be political but to remind Jones to conduct himself honorably inside the cage.

"What I was saying was, 'Go check on Lyoto,' what I meant was to remember that you're a public figure," Jackson said. "There's always attention on you and what you're doing all the time, and there's cage etiquette. There's things you're supposed to do, and going and checking on somebody is what you're supposed to do.

"And now because I'm in military mode and in shorthand mode, I say, 'Jon, go check on Lyoto and go get some fans,' and what I should have said was, 'You're a public figure. There's a way to conduct yourself.' But instead, I shorthanded it."

MMAJunkie.com (http://mmajunkie.com/news/26512/trainer-jackson-clarifies-get-some-fans-comments-following-jones-ufc-140-win.mma):

They are both 10 word sentences, just a thought.

[natureboy]

That's funny.

[natureboy]

And so is this. Classic shit-talking for the "UFC Middleweight Champion" Chael Sonnen...

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[marooko]

I'm not sure how I've missed this, but I was pissing my pants last night.

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[natureboy]

Hell yeah! Joey Karate! Train all day, Joe Rogan Podcast all night. All day.

[natureboy]

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[natureboy]

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[marooko]

Anyone catch Strikeforce this past weekend?

I was really hoping Masvidal would have done more. He definitely is a better fighter than what he showed, he just seemed really hesitant and wasn't putting together very many combinations.

[boboso]

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[marooko]

I like it. Not sure which one I think is funnier, but the Lesnar bit had me laughing pretty good.

Who do you want to take the win, or who do you think will take the win?

Lesnar over reem. See what I did there?

Cerrone
Fitch via yawn fest
Gustafsson - Just going with the younger guy here. Wouldn't be surprised if the experience takes it though.
Phan - Asian brotha can get some love.
Pearson
Castillo
Kim
Escudero - Hopefully he shows up.
Riddle
Nunes

[bluemamba]

Lesnar should win this. The key to this matchup here is if Overeem can get back up after he gets taken down. (which i doubt)

[dorkfish]

Main Card
Lesnar vs Overeem
Diaz vs Cerrone
Fitch vs Hendricks (I don't think it'll be a great fight, but not a total yawnfest. If Hendricks wins, it'll be a 1st or 2nd round ending)
Matyushenko vs Gustafsson
Phan vs Hettes

Prelims
Pearson vs Assuncao
Njokuani vs Castillo
Kim vs Pierson
Volkmann vs Escudero
Riddle vs Ramos
Gamburyan vs Nunes

[marooko]

I don't think it'll be a total yawnfest either, I was definitely exaggerating.

I think it sucks Fitch is so good, but he can't get past GSP. Kinda like Franklin before he started moving weight classes. Able to take out the entire class decisively, except for the top dog. I can't imagine how frustrating that might be.

[tigermilkboy]

I think Overeem looks pretty good from what I have seen, but I could never bet against that freak of fighter Lesnar. Assuming Lesnar as had no issues with diverticulitis and he says he feels better than ever then I fancy Lesnar to overturn the odds.

Lesnar +110
Overeem -138

[marooko]

Freak of a fighter? I'd say more freak of a man than a fighter. Size doesn't mean win, we've seen that numerous times.

I'm going with Lesnar because Overeem is not very good on the ground. His last fight with Werdum was a freaking joke. Lesnar should make much better attempts at the take-down.

[marooko]

I didn't realize Fitch was out for as long as he was. makes me doubt my pick, but I still think he's gonna take it.

[natureboy]

It's tonight bitches!

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[marooko]

I was NOT expecting that!!

[Neighborhood Creep]

http://nutjob.eu/

For all us broke ass mu fuggas

[Neighborhood Creep]

I am reading the main event is cancelled

Edit: probably just trolls on that link I just gave

[buddy]

Thanks for the link

[BeaverCat]

Poor Fitch.

http://oi39.tinypic.com/rh0a3q.jpg

[ods..]

HAHAHAHAHA. thank god i didn't pay for this.

[koryp]

The Diaz/Cerone fight was worth the PPV price.

Let's hear it for shots to the liver!

[BeaverCat]

^ Yeah. Thanks for the link Neighborhood Creep.

[marooko]

Hey neighbor, is that the place to go? I don't want to pay again in two weeks, fuc thatshit.

Also, I cant beolive fitch got taken out lie that. Crazuy shit. Diaz/cerrrone wasa fuckng wawesome!!!

bess belive i been dcrinking!!

[natureboy]

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[natureboy]

THME-nf_RKw

[Neighborhood Creep]

I have a buddy who posts links to every PPV event of UFC and Boxing so I will start tossing them up in here like an hour prior to fights. I have used that site before so maybe it's good each time. They're usually Euro sites but they are pretty clear and up to time for a stream

[marooko]

So no input about the fights? Lesnar's retirement, Fitch taking a nap, Diaz's boxing and Cerrone's punching bag act.

I wish Lesnar the best in health. Never saw him as a serious contender, so i won't miss him as a fighter.

I was not expecting Fitch to be taken out, and most definitely not the way it happened.

Diaz was most impressive with his boxing, nothing taken away there, but I can't believe Cerrone just stood there the entire first round. It was insane to watch.

[natureboy]

So no input about the fights? Lesnar's retirement, Fitch taking a nap, Diaz's boxing and Cerrone's punching bag act.

I wish Lesnar the best in health. Never saw him as a serious contender, so i won't miss him as a fighter.

I was not expecting Fitch to be taken out, and most definitely not the way it happened.

Diaz was most impressive with his boxing, nothing taken away there, but I can't believe Cerrone just stood there the entire first round. It was insane to watch.

I was actually pretty happy about Fitch getting dropped. I don't like that guy. Boring as fuck.

Cerrone was doing good with the leg kicks. At least he didn't get finished. I'm a huge Diaz Bros fan so I was fine with that win.

Lesnar must have still been jacked up from his disease. He only tried for one takedown then got FUCKED.

[marooko]

Not that i cared for Fitch, I just wasn't expecting him to go nighty night. That was pretty nuts to watch.

I use to like Nick, but he seems to be eating what his brother eats as of late. A bunch of bullshit. Like Cerrone had said in an interview..'We're professionals..". If you wanna thug it up, stay on the streets. I could just do without the attitude. Coming from the north east where boxing is pretty damn popular, I didn't know too many boxers that "grew up on the streets". If you acted that way, you were pretty much an asshole. That aside, I do enjoy watching them fight, I just don't care too much if they win or lose.

I was thinking the same thing about Lesnar. I don't know that he could be 100% after going through that twice. Something that people die from, or live the rest of their lives in pain. And it's not even like Overeem looked impressive. At least I didn't think so.

[Distorted_Jungle]

I didn't get to watch the card but judging by the fact that the Diaz fight went the distance I'm assuming it's the same case I've seen from Diaz in the past, landing a ton of punches with a complete lack of power behind any of them. In previous fights of his I've watched I've seen him pick people apart in an impressive fashion, but can't help but think if someone else was landing that many punches the fight would not go the distance.

[natureboy]

I think the Diaz brothers' behavior prior to matches seems a bit immature as well but I also find how they do it quite amusing. Also I don't think I've seen a Diaz Bros match where they didn't show respect to guy they fought right after the match (save for Nick/Riggs (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/full-joe-riggs-vs-nick-diaz-hospital-fight-story-481579/) & Nate/Peligrino (http://youtu.be/PXBfS7zYKsA?t=1m15s)). It's all fight hype. Plus that's what it takes for those guys to get their head in the game.

As a martial artist I kind of wish the whole "disrespect" aspect of MMA went away but it's what helps sell the fights and in the case of Chael Sonnen or Nick Diaz it's actually entertaining (to me anyway).

[natureboy]

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[natureboy]

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[marooko]

Should be a decent card. Not looking forward to any one fight, but it should be a good night overall. The main event should be a very exciting match and the co-main has potential for some fireworks. Or, maybe just one explosion considering they both can easily put someone to sleep.

[natureboy]

http://i41.tinypic.com/aw70hv.gif
Jose Aldo def. Chad Mendes via knockout at 4:59 of round one

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Edson Barboza def. Terry Etim via knockout at 2:02 of round three

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GDsjA8klxnE/TxJSure2ZZI/AAAAAAAAHLA/bMIRSKU8mLI/s1600/1.gif
Rousimar Palhares def. Mike Massenzio via submission (heel hook) at 1:02 of round one

[marooko]

Those were some really finishes. I didn't think the Aldo/Mendes fight was gonna be over that quick. And as for Etim, WOW! Sure he's ok, but that looked scary.

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/O7neKshmjzI


http://youtu.be/ck0Lb8pDmVg

[natureboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QVrZAL16FFI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sd1hLg4DNOk

[marooko]

Apparently Guillard is getting his head on straight, we'll see what it's doing for him this weekend.

[natureboy]

Apparently Guillard is getting his head on straight, we'll see what it's doing for him this weekend.

Him and Miller were on streaks before they both lost. These guys are top contenders in the division still. Curious why Guillard left Jackson's for the Blackzilians camp though (http://mmaweekly.com/melvin-guillard-now-a-blackzilian-says-no-bad-blood-with-jacksons). He was doing great with Jackson.

[marooko]

He's black. They're black. Most of them anyway.

But yeah, not sure why he left either, kinda crazy.

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/r_yEk8MsAbE

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/3NCAz2_0IGc


http://youtu.be/br5lW80H3q8

[marooko]

Pretty good night of fights. Don't really care for Bisping so I'm glad he lost, but I was kind of hoping he would win also. Could have been another great highlight knockout. Evans looked pretty good, hopefully he and Jones wil finally fight. I know they're supposed to in April, but that fight was supposed to happen a while ago already.

[Distorted_Jungle]

The Maia fight was boring in my opinion, the other 2 were a lot more entertaining. I think Bisping won the first 2 rounds and lost the 3rd, but Sonnen/Silva 2 will be good. I think Anderson Silva will come in even more prepared than last time. I think Rashad Evans looked good, but not good enough to take out Jon Jones. All in all a good card for free.

[marooko]

Yeah, the Maia fight was pretty lame. The prelims were pretty ok also, they aired on FX I think. Maybe Fuel, I forget.

[marooko]

You folks excited about this weekend or what? Should be a good night of fights overall, couple fights I'm excited for. Curious how Nelson/Werdum is gonna turn out. Pretty sure Diaz/Condit will turn out like most Diaz fights, but I'm really excited about it anyway. Hope Condit comes in prepared and not afraid. Definitely has potential to be a great fight! Also excited about Jorgensen/Barao, and as for Koscheck/Pierce, I hope Koscheck gets laid out. I just don't like him, he's not as good as he thinks he is.

[Distorted_Jungle]

Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit
Roy Nelson vs. Fabricio Werdum
Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pearce
Renan Barao vs. Scott Jorgensen
Ed Herman vs. Clifford Starkes

I don't follow the sport as closely as I would like to so I can't call the last 2 outside of a random guess. I agree that Koscheck needs to get laid the fuck out, I hate that guy. Every time he opens his mouth it's just crap falling out.

[natureboy]

I'm always excited for a Nick Diaz fight and Conduit is no slouch either. If Werdum/Nelson is a ground battle that could be really interesting. I don't know if I want to watch those two "slug it out." Hope KOS gets KO'd like his boy Fitch and looking forward to watching that Renan Barao dude. He's a motherfucker.


http://youtu.be/m1hUXyHqX5M

[marooko]

Conduit]

I like how this always shows up. HAHAHAHAHA!!! It just never dies and is always funny. Plus, I never know if it's a joke, an honest mistake or just a misunderstanding. Either way, it always make for a good laugh.

[natureboy]

From a USA Today article (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/mma/post/2011-12-08/condit-diaz-a-better-match-up-for-me-than-gsp/581345/1):

Nick seems to have a hard time saying your last name right; after the Penn fight, kept saying "Conduit." Does that bother you at all?

No, it doesn't bother me. Honestly, I've heard that since I was a kind. My dad, my uncle and my grandfather are all electricians; it's a construction term, kind of. It's something I've heard since I was a kid. It doesn't bother me; I don't care.

He'll pronounce my name right after I beat him, though.

[marooko]

Man it just gets better and better. HAHA!

[natureboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOE4sjKVT90&feature=player_embedded
Episode 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0bDcU6-iIA&feature=player_embedded
Episode 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ZiQJoVfWk&feature=player_embedded
Episode 3

[Distorted_Jungle]

Roy Nelson is one tough son of a bitch! Never seen anyone take punishment like that and last so long. I think Koscheck lost, but that's why you can't leave it to the judges. Main event was pretty entertaining but I think it was a lot closer than the scorecards made it out to be. I gave Diaz the first 2 and the 3rd, but whatever. I hope he doesn't retire, too much skill to just go away.

[marooko]

I thought Koscheck lost as well, but I'm pretty bias considering I can't stand the guy. I saw it more as a split in the main. While Diaz was aggressive, he was missing a lot of his shots. And as for Nelson, the guy is just a freaking savage. Hopefully Werdum thinks he can stand with Dos Santos. HA! Anyone see the "Karate Kid" lay that fool out? Saw it on facebook, I think they played it at the end of the PPV as well. Or maybe they just played the other finish. Pretty nice submission of the night as well. Good card all around.

[Distorted_Jungle]

That Karate Kid kick was sick. I was watching the prelims on spike when they showed it.

[DANCE MAGIC]

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh99/sheeeeeeets/Nickcomplaining.gif

This picture made me lol. I did think Condit looked like a bitch and Diaz should've won the fight though.

[ElBlueblazer]

Holy shit! REMATCH!!!



http://http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/7553552/nick-diaz-vs-carlos-condit-ufc-rematch-set-says-dana-white


Just several days after defeating Nick Diaz in a UFC welterweight interim title bout, Carlos Condit has agreed to a rematch, promotion president Dana White said late Tuesday night.

"The rumor is true," White said via Twitter. "Carlos did accept the fight today."

Condit defeated Diaz by unanimous decision Saturday night at UFC 143 in Las Vegas. He used solid footwork and head movement to elude Diaz's pressure attack, while delivering counter-strikes to impress the judges.

After the scores were read, Diaz expressed disappointment with the judges' scorecards (48-47, 49-46 and 49-46) by vowing never to compete in mixed martial arts again.

"I'm not going to accept the fact that this was a loss," Diaz said. "I pushed him back the whole fight. I took him down. I think I'm done with this MMA. It's been a good time.

"I don't need this. I pushed this guy the whole fight. I landed the harder punches. He kicked me a few times."

Diaz (26-8, one no contest) wasn't the only fighter disappointed by the outcome.

Current UFC 170-pound titleholder Georges St. Pierre expressed his desire to fight Diaz and wanted him to come away victorious. St. Pierre was slated to face the Diaz-Condit winner in a unification bout later this year.

Diaz, the former Strikeforce welterweight champion, has been verbally taunting St. Pierre for months. The two were scheduled to meet in Saturday night's main event, but St. Pierre suffered a torn ACL in his right knee in December and pulled out of the fight.

St. Pierre expects to resume full training in July. He has targeted November for his return to action.

Condit (28-5) was originally scheduled to fight St. Pierre, but agreed to step aside for Diaz. That goodwill gesture did not prevent fans from criticizing Condit after the fight at Mandalay Bay Events Center.

Many mixed martial arts fans expressed their disagreement with the result, booing Condit during his postfight interview inside the Octagon.

UFC has not yet set a date or location for the Condit-Diaz rematch.


I think Condit looked like a bitch in that fight. If we're lucky, this time he wont spend the majority of the time running.

[Distorted_Jungle]

Should be interesting to watch this one develope. I think the only reason it's happening is the UFC wanting Diaz to stay around and this was the only way other than putting him in a title match with GSP despite the loss.

[marooko]

What a pussy ass motherfucker. Diaz should just go to Hawaii and circle jerk with Penn while they wipe each others tears.

Eblue, would you stand and trade with Diaz? Considering how often its worked out for his opponents, it would be the best way to go about it, no?

I hope GSP fights Diaz, regardless of the rematch outcome. It's gonna be nice to see him soundly defeated similar to GSP/Penn two. Sitting in the stands, you could hear Penn's head hitting the mat from the elbows in round 3 and 4. I'm sure though, that would just bring another greasing accusation. Bitches be whining when they lose.

[ElBlueblazer]

I had a few issues with the fight that I think will be emend in a rematch. The first was the judging. The rematch has to be in another state! The NSAC can suck balls. They scored the first 2 rounds to Condit, when Diaz was clearly the better of the 2. If Nick had fought the way he fought in rd.1 through out the fight, according to the judges scorecards, he still would have lost.

My 2nd problem was Condit's running. That's not a type of fight anyone wants to pay $60 for. He wasnt trying to finish the fight, It looked more like he was trying to stay alive. Condit was scared and you can see it. Granted, I wouldn't want to be standing across from that caveman Diaz either. Conidit's stick and move gameplan worked great for him, Its the only way he was going to win, but it also made for a lame fight. From the get go, we knew how Diaz was gong to stand up and throw some heavy fist. Condit was on primetime saying he wanted a fight. All we got was a track meet.

[marooko]

It's a competition. A fight. You do what you can to win. Standing in front of Diaz hasn't won many people any fights. It may not have been very entertaining visually, but it was a well executed game plan. Hopefully in the rematch, Condit is more confident and counters more often. Keep the lateral movement, just counter more. It was effective, now just amplify it.

Look at Silva vs. Franklin, Silva vs. Forrest, Diaz vs. (pretty much fill in the blank). Standing and trading with these superior strikers might make for an entertaining knockout, but it's a really stupid career decision.


I'm listening to The Sherdog Radio Network right now and I heard them say "...The Diaz brothers don't think you can win a fight running backwards." I believe this is true of them, I also believe their fans feel the same way. Which is why you hear and read some much bad talk about Condit. I personally don't think that's true. I think you can win a fight moving backwards, or laterally, the same you can win a fight off your back. Just because someone is aggressive, doesn't inherently make it effective.

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/GIy7kjOlE9Q

[Distorted_Jungle]

Diaz/Condit rematch no longer happening.

[ElBlueblazer]

I have a feeling that Diaz is going to hold out for more money.



*just read this:

Cesar Gracie tweeted:

“We greatly appreciate our fan support. Everything will be out soon. Nick would rematch in a heartbeat. No extra money needed. He is a true fighter and fights for his team and you fans.” Gracie also confirmed that with MMAJunkie.com that Diaz is indeed not taking the fight.

Also, the NSAC is reporting that there was a fighter at UFC 143 that tested positive for something. I wonder if these stories have anything to do with each other?

[ElBlueblazer]

So it turns out, Diaz tested positive for weed. Not a surprise since hes an avid smoker. It looks like he won't be fighting in Las Vegas for a long time.


http://http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/9/2787871/nick-diaz-tests-positive-for-marijuana (http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/9/2787871/nick-diaz-tests-positive-for-marijuana)


Feb 9, 2012 - The Nevada Athletic Commission has confirmed that Nick Diaz tested positive for marijuana at UFC 143 and will face disciplinary action, almost certainly canceling his planned rematch with Carlos Condit and throwing his future into question.

"Mr. Diaz tested positive for marijuana metabolites. A complaint for disciplinary action against Mr. Diaz has been filed," Nevada Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer wrote in a statement distributed to the media.

After losing to Condit by unanimous decision, Diaz was expected to get a rematch before it became clear that there was an issue with Diaz's drug test. Now Diaz is likely to be suspended at least six months, and possibly longer because he's a repeat offender: Diaz was also busted for marijuana after his upset submission victory over Takanori Gomi in Pride, and that result was subsequently changed to a no contest.

Diaz's future is in doubt not only because the Commission may suspend him, but also because the UFC may decide he's more trouble than he's worth. UFC President Dana White has repeatedly lamented Diaz's refusal to "play the game," and if Diaz can't pass a drug test at the biggest fight of his career, the UFC may not trust him to participate in big fights going forward. There's also the matter of Diaz's post-fight comments, when he said he doesn't know if he even wants to fight anymore.

It's also unclear what will happen with Condit, who was declared the interim welterweight champion for his victory over Diaz. At the moment it appears likely that Condit will sit out until Georges St. Pierre has sufficiently recovered from knee surgery and can return to the Octagon, which is tentatively planned for November.

[bluemamba]

This thread is pretty much all MMA now. What happened to the boxing fans??

[ElBlueblazer]

I try to watch boxing but I cant get through it. I watched that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr fight the other night and was bored out of my mind. That kid is nothing like his Pops.

[marooko]

What a dumb fuck! I try to like the guy, then he cries about BS, and gets busted again for smoking pot. Fucking guy.

[hippityhip]

This thread is pretty much all MMA now. What happened to the boxing fans??
I actually enjoyed the last quarter of boxing in 2011. Solid match ups from October till the end of 2011 on HBO. I'm actually starting to get really fucking sick of MMA right now. It is EVERYWHERE. I mean come on Dana White 30+ events this year? I miss the days that I actually looked forward to watching UFC. Yes I know that when something is more popular we get hit with a barrage of material. But fuck man MMA is going the way of dubstep. It's in everything from movies, commercials, on every weekend.... ok that's my rant. So I am sticking to boxing this year minus major fights in UFC.

[bluemamba]

I try to watch boxing but I cant get through it. I watched that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr fight the other night and was bored out of my mind. That kid is nothing like his Pops.

It was a little slow. The last 3 rounds were pretty awesome though.

[marooko]

I actually enjoyed the last quarter of boxing in 2011. Solid match ups from October till the end of 2011 on HBO. I'm actually starting to get really fucking sick of MMA right now. It is EVERYWHERE. I mean come on Dana White 30+ events this year? I miss the days that I actually looked forward to watching UFC. Yes I know that when something is more popular we get hit with a barrage of material. But fuck man MMA is going the way of dubstep. It's in everything from movies, commercials, on every weekend.... ok that's my rant. So I am sticking to boxing this year minus major fights in UFC.

I've been feeling this way for a while. I'm getting use to it a little, but I feel that it's only a matter of short time before the MMA hype is over-force-fed to the masses and it returns to the dark days. I might almost like that more. It baffles me that people who supposedly "love" the sport are turning it in to pro wrestling and saturating everything with it. It can't be unknown to these people that Joe Schmo gets tired of seeing the same shit too often.

And why the fuck is the Diaz/Daley fight talked about like some crazy shit? Like it's insane what Diaz did to him. Daley is a mediocre MMA fighter. Great Muay Thai practitioner, but it ends there. He got served. Hasn't done much before then and hasn't done shit after.

[hippityhip]

^ Word. I believe it is a big mistake for them to have UFC on all channels like Fox, Fuel, Spike, FX etc... just too much. I use to love the exclusivity and the shock value it use to hold when there was only like 4 or 5 events tops a year. I agree almost every fight now is billed as "FIGHT OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Idk what do I know about running a multi million dollar industry. Evidently they are doing something right.

[marooko]

Yeah, but the question is for how long?

You remember that thing everyone use to be in to? Yeah, me either.


Big Nog interview after his surgery.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Minotauro-My-Arm-Surgery-40031

[marooko]

After repeated attempts to get her friends attention about the small octagon, meanwhile being told it was a hexagon and not an octagon, it was time for jokes.

It is a small octagon. It's so small its only got six sides.

I almost rolled down the stairs I was laughing so fucking hard.

[bluemamba]

Turns out that Canelo Alvarez will face Shane Mosley for the WBC 154 title on the Mayweather vs Cotto undercard.

[hippityhip]

Turns out that Canelo Alvarez will face Shane Mosley for the WBC 154 title on the Mayweather vs Cotto undercard.

Now that is a great undercard match up. I hope Canelo wins it. Canelo vs Julio Cesar anyone?

[marooko]

The Nevada Athletic Commission is having a presser today and an open forum. (I think it's today) They will be discussion the decision on Nick Diaz and the open forum will be pertaining to rule changes, they will be listening to what people think should be added. With that said, what would you like to see changed? Discuss.

I say bring back the knees to a grounded opponent!! (knees to the head)

California will be looking in to this as well on April 9th.

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/oXAtclmYHH0

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/lM-iaLASB-A

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/FUtWL5kV68M

[bluemamba]

Now that is a great undercard match up. I hope Canelo wins it. Canelo vs Julio Cesar anyone?

That would be a great fight but if it doesn't happen soon, like in the next year or two, it just won't happen. The issue is the weight.

Chavez Jr can make 160 (Middleweight) but seems to be outgrowing that weight division. He comes in on fight night weighing 180! Thats 20 pounds overnight.

Canelo on the other hand, makes 154 fairly easy and could probably make at least 150 no problem. He was a welterweight (147) and is pretty much filling out to be a solid junior middleweight (if he isn't already).

I would've liked to see Canelo taking on Cotto for the junior middleweight tittle but Mosley is cool too. Solid fight.

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/hcmdP5n_pEU

[hippityhip]

That would be a great fight but if it doesn't happen soon, like in the next year or two, it just won't happen. The issue is the weight.

Chavez Jr can make 160 (Middleweight) but seems to be outgrowing that weight division. He comes in on fight night weighing 180! Thats 20 pounds overnight.

Canelo on the other hand, makes 154 fairly easy and could probably make at least 150 no problem. He was a welterweight (147) and is pretty much filling out to be a solid junior middleweight (if he isn't already).

I would've liked to see Canelo taking on Cotto for the junior middleweight tittle but Mosley is cool too. Solid fight.

Agreed.

[hippityhip]

The Nevada Athletic Commission is having a presser today and an open forum. (I think it's today) They will be discussion the decision on Nick Diaz and the open forum will be pertaining to rule changes, they will be listening to what people think should be added. With that said, what would you like to see changed? Discuss.

I say bring back the knees to a grounded opponent!! (knees to the head)

California will be looking in to this as well on April 9th.

Head stomps and soccer kicks to the head of a downed opponent.

[hippityhip]

Btw does anyone here have a membership to UFC Gym? I have one near by but not sure if it's worth the money. Any thoughts on this?

[ADGZ662]

WOW!
Local boxer Tim Bradley of Cathedral City who trains at the Boys & Girls Club here in Indio, signs 5 million dollar contract for a dream fight against Manny Pacquiao. I've trained at this gym in the past but my lazy ass hasn't been for years now. Yup I'm gonna have to dust off the gloves and hit the gym so I can make an appearance on HBO'S 24/7 reality series LoL!








Physical Tim Bradley has Manny Pacquiao's attention
11:36 PM, Feb. 22, 2012 | Comments
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Written by
Leighton Ginn
The Desert Sun



BEVERLY HILLS — While Timothy Bradley and Manny Pacquiao were playing nice during Tuesday's news conference, trainer Freddie Roach threw some verbal jabs in the media about Bradley's head.
“We're fighting a guy who is aggressive, comes to us, uses he head a lot, uses his elbows He's a very physical fighter,” said Roach, considered the top trainer in boxing and the subject of a five-part HBO documentary. “I think Manny is going to look great in this fight.”
Pacquiao, the fighter of the decade in the 2000s, is taking on the undefeated Bradley (28-0) on June 9 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.
Before the fight was booked, Roach called Bradley a dirty fighter because of the head-butts that ended two fights.
Bradley had his victory over Nate Campbell overruled to a no-contest because of an incidental head-butt, and his fight against Devon Alexander was stopped after 10 rounds because of another incidental head-butt. Bradley won the Alexander fight by unanimous decision.

Roach has been focusing on Bradley for a long time. First as a fan, and then as a possible opponent. First, Bradley was in negotiations to take on one of Roach's other star fighters, Amir Khan.
So Roach has studied Bradley for a while. And beyond working the referees through the media about the head-butts, Roach said there's something pay attention to.
“He's a very hard, hard guy,” Roach said. “I see him bang heads with guys and the other guy in excruciating pain, holding their eyes and so forth, and he's walking around like nothing.
“He doesn't feel pain that way. I was brought up the same way, never to show pain.”
Pacquiao was working toward a mega-fight against Floyd Mayweather, but negotiations fell apart when Mayweather would agree on a 50-50 split.
“Mayweather called us out then three days later he wants a 70-30 split,” Roach said. “He knows how to protect himself. He knows that's a deal-breaker. Did he really call us out? No. Is he too worried about losing? Yes. If he has a loss on his record, he can't say he's better than Sugar Ray Robinson anymore.

“I think losses make people better fighters. If he loses, he might be a better fighter and win the rematch. Who knows. He's full of excuses and in my opinion he's afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao. That's it.”
Asked if Pacquiao is waiting to retire until a fight is made with Mayweather, Roach responded, “I won't say until because we might have to wait until we're 50 at this guy's pace.”
On Tuesday, Roach said it was nice an undefeated fighter was not afraid to face Pacquiao, an unveiled jab at Mayweather.
Bradley said he thinks Roach is worried about the fight. In fact, Bradley said he was a little surprised he even landed the fight, as Juan Manuel Marquez, Miguel Cotto and Lamont Peterson were also considered.
“Honestly, I think a lot of people feel this is a dangerous fight for Manny. This is not going to be a walk in the park,” Bradley said. “I'm young, I'm hungry and I'm determined. Manny hasn't seen a fighter like myself and my caliber in a very long time. He's faced some top guys but they were past their prime. I'm right in my prime. I'm physically sound, I believe in myself, I believe in my ability, I believe I can beat him. That's the reason why people should tune into this fight.”

[Somewhat Damaged]

The spelling and grammar in that article are atrocious. I initially thought it was translated from a Filipino website/newspaper. Nope, it's apparently from the Indio newspaper. Shameful.

[tigermilkboy]

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/2E00484FFF3F569A?artistid=1696451&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33

Link for tickets for Pacquiao vs Bradley. All the $200 tickets are sold out, so it is $400b (plus some fee's) to get in the door.

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/514JNbUlews


http://youtu.be/xxuVCImwCMY


http://youtu.be/bI_u1S859W4

[natureboy]

Helio Gracie Biography. After pressing play, press CC for English Subtitles.


http://youtu.be/jo6sG1UqQAs

[bluemamba]

I want to say Tim Bradley can win this fight with Manny Pacquiao but I just don't see him hurting Manny throughout the fight. I do give him a chance because of Bradley's weapon of choice, his head. He has a hammer head and can make this fight real ugly. It's hard enough getting a decision against Manny now days though. Just ask Juan Manuel Marquez.

[marooko]

So nothing about this past weekends fights? Not even the comeback from hell? The "controversial" main event decision? The head-kick that put Lauzon to sleep? Anything?

[Distorted_Jungle]

I was busy so wasn't able to catch them. From what I read the main event decision was so close it could have been justified either way it went. I heard about the kick on Lauzon, gotta see a gif or video of it when it pops up. What was the comeback from hell?

[natureboy]

So nothing about this past weekends fights? Not even the comeback from hell? The "controversial" main event decision? The head-kick that put Lauzon to sleep? Anything?

Those uppercuts from Tim Boetsch were ridic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/BOETSCH.gif

Sexyama's sweeps were super sexy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/JUDOYAMA.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/JUDOYAMA2.gif

Pettis' striking is nuts. So crisp. Lauzon sadly got caught.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/PETTIS2.gif

SUPER SAMOAN!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/MARKHUNTMOTHERFUCKER3.gif

Sadly the only exciting thing from Rampage/Bader:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/SLAMPAGE.gif

I think Bendo deserved the win. In addition to the upkick he attacked several submissions and just beat up Edgar. He barely looked touched at the end of the fight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/UPKICK.gif

Bonus from the Facebook Prelim

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/tiequan.gif

[buddy]

Mayweather says he doesn't want to give Manny a 50-50 split (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7626619/floyd-mayweather-jr-says-manny-pacquiao-not-one-sharpest-not-getting-50-50-split). Manny already agreed to drug testing. I'm not saying Mayweather is a coward, because anybody who goes in that ring isn't, but to me it's just another sign that he doesn't want to fight Pacquaio.

[natureboy]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429573_10150607830883229_61345743228_9234656_17929 10146_n.jpg

[ElBlueblazer]

That was a sick arm-bar. I felt a jolt of pain when I saw it bent the wrong way. Rousey is no Joke.

[ambient sounds]

Saw that match last night and i dont know how her arm was still attached at the end of the match.

[natureboy]

http://youtu.be/MSabKS_41UE

[natureboy]

Gracie Breakdown for Tate/Rousey


http://youtu.be/5XqV9TIVkDY

[natureboy]

Jump to 2:58 for the action...


http://youtu.be/4awSmJfuhbU?t=2m58s