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ecalcott
01-30-2009, 10:15 AM
here we go again..."this year is the worst year ever". really? have you been yet? this will be my sixth coachella and every year has been great - no matter what the lineup looks like beforehand. ask any of the repeat customers and we'll all agree that we don't go for the headliners, we go for the event as a whole. so, quit your bitching and be grateful that this awesome event exists and lets you see all kinds of great music. top to bottom, this is as strong a lineup as any. if you don't want to go, don't - coachella doesn't owe you anything, and you sound like a spoiled little brat. of course, im 40 and have more experience and better taste than you kids. :)

ps - thanks for superchunk. never thought i'd get to see them.

AlecEiffel
01-30-2009, 10:18 AM
I'm right with you. I can't wait 'til this initial cry baby phase is over and we can use this forum to actually discuss what we're excited about and fill each other in on this year's lesser known performers, etc.

wstsidela
01-30-2009, 10:18 AM
lot of whinin' bitches on this board

weezy f baby
01-30-2009, 10:26 AM
most of the haters are kids. that's what kids talk about these days... how much they hate stuff... not... OMG Leonard fuckin Cohen is playing. They just have no perspective.

Plus, some of the fun of Coachella is discovering someone for the first time in a LIVE environment.

I've gone to Coachella almost every year (and the past 3 straight), and at this point, I just go for the experience as a whole. The artists are secondary to the experience.

BROKENDOLL
01-30-2009, 10:28 AM
Don't descriminate, or I'll have to tape a mustache on and sneak into this thread! Positive old women need love too, you know! This will be my 6th Coachella and I've never gone based upon knowing those on the lineup...I've left with new favorites every year instead! PRODIGY/DAFT PUNK/CHEMICAL BROS./MUSE/DANNY TENAGLIA/SANDRA COLLINS/ETC,ETC,ETC!!!

Todfilm
01-30-2009, 10:28 AM
My first year was 2003. Since then, the weakest lineup for me was 2005. Although I personally thought the headliners were weak last year up until they added Prince. But the undercard was really amazing last year from the beginning.

Edit: And this year is all about Leonard Cohen. If you don't know who that is you better look him up. This year's lineup is grrrrrreat!

humanoid
01-30-2009, 10:28 AM
there is so much great stuff on this lineup...I think the real problem with most of the people bitching is that they really don't know a lot of the performers. They don't want to admit that, so instead, they complain that the lineup is terrible when in fact the problem is their own lack of awareness

This year will be amazing, like coachella has been since '99

AlecEiffel
01-30-2009, 10:31 AM
there is so much great stuff on this lineup...I think the real problem with most of the people bitching is that they really don't know a lot of the performers. They don't want to admit that, so instead, they complain that the lineup is terrible when in fact the problem is their own lack of awareness

This year will be amazing, like coachella has been since '99

I think it's not that people are disappointed by what is there, it seems like they are disappointed by what isn't. This happens every year. People get themselves all excited for Radiohead/Bowie/the Smiths and when it doesn't happen they are shocked for some reason. This year is going to be great, I can't wait.

wstsidela
01-30-2009, 10:34 AM
It's all about Leonard.

Mockingbird73
01-30-2009, 10:34 AM
People get all worked up hoping for what has already been. I can't tell you how many "dream line up" threads I have seen that look exactly the same as years past. It's ok to do something that hasn't been done before.

I personally am thrilled. I may have to take my mom on Friday night but I am still thrilled.

Yessss...Leonard. My reason for Coachella 2009

humanoid
01-30-2009, 10:38 AM
I think it's not that people are disappointed by what is there, it seems like they are disappointed by what isn't. This happens every year. People get themselves all excited for Radiohead/Bowie/the Smiths and when it doesn't happen they are shocked for some reason. This year is going to be great, I can't wait.

that is true, tons of people get all hyped up on unrealistic, unfounded expectations.... but I really think plenty of people still don't recognize a tons of the lower tiered acts...

The amount of people who are now are aware of Coachella in the overall population has expanded exponentially over the years....it has become the thing to do, exposing it to many more people who just want to go because they think they're supposed to, not because they're absolutely in love with music

as little as just 5 years ago, although there a ton of people at the Festival, still to the overall majority, you could mention Coachella, and they would have absolutely no idea what you're talking about....now every doofus I know is asking me if I'm going to Coachella

ecalcott
01-30-2009, 10:41 AM
my apologies to the old women of coachella. if i could change the title of the thread i would. (although the mustache thing could be interesting.)
there were a couple of years when one could purchase tickets before the lineup was announced. that was always a no-brainer. i never understood those who would wait to see if the lineup was worthy of their presence. coachella always has great old stuff, new stuff, and new favorites to be heard.
to be honest, i'm not that familiar with leanord cohen, but will be by april. the "research" is the one of the most fun aspects.

AlecEiffel
01-30-2009, 10:43 AM
that is true, tons of people get all hyped up on unrealistic, unfounded expectations.... but I really think plenty of people still don't recognize a tons of the lower tiered acts...

The amount of people who are now are aware of Coachella in the overall population has expanded exponentially over the years....it has become the thing to do, exposing it to many more people who just want to go because they think they're supposed to, not because they're absolutely in love with music

as little as just 5 years ago, although there a ton of people at the Festival, still to the overall majority, you could mention Coachella, and they would have absolutely no idea what you're talking about....now every doofus I know is asking me if I'm going to Coachella

I see your point. I don't know who a lot of the lower tier acts are myself, but I know enough of them to get excited. Plus, as anyone who's ever been to Coachella knows, you are going to come away with at least one great discovery.

humanoid
01-30-2009, 10:59 AM
I see your point. I don't know who a lot of the lower tier acts are myself, but I know enough of them to get excited. Plus, as anyone who's ever been to Coachella knows, you are going to come away with at least one great discovery.

very true, the pre show research and subsequent "discovery" are some of the greatest aspects of the festival

ecalcott
01-30-2009, 11:00 AM
good points. when I previously said that we go for the "event", it has to be stressed that the "event" is the convergence of such great and varied music. not what coachella may be starting to become: an "event" of which to say you were there. regardless, i do feel that the majority of attendees are music fans. (except the NIN and tool fans who spent 12 hours pressed up against the main stage barrier. too funny.) trying to stay positive, i'll keep believing that the negativity in these forums is a byproduct of the young vocal minority who could never really be pleased regardless.

humanoid
01-30-2009, 11:16 AM
incessant bitching and possessing inability to ever be satisfied are modern day pastimes


Coachella will be great, it has been every year

I wasn't totally in love with the lineup last year, but I think I may have had the most fun and enjoyed the overall experience more than any year

BROKENDOLL
01-30-2009, 11:38 AM
ecalcott, I love how you changed one post title to please me! I may just don that 'stache just for you! :)

killsunshine
01-30-2009, 11:39 AM
winehouse and killers are sad though

M Sparks
01-30-2009, 11:41 AM
It's all about Leonard.

& Throbbing Gristle. Talk about once in a lifetime opportunity.

humanoid
01-30-2009, 11:41 AM
I think Amy Whinehouse is pretty great actually

humanoid
01-30-2009, 11:42 AM
& Throbbing Gristle. Talk about once in a lifetime opportunity.

both of those are very rare treats for us

frisbeee
01-30-2009, 11:45 AM
winehouse and killers are sad though

agreed. there is always a couple of those bands tossed into the mix every year anyway. Just means less people at other stages when they are playing.

Young blood
01-30-2009, 12:53 PM
It smells in here.

GET OFF MY DAWN LAWN!

SuperStar
01-30-2009, 02:24 PM
This thread restored my faith in coachella-humanity.

(I'm young, but "old soul").

dancedancedance
01-30-2009, 02:29 PM
thank you for this thread! i'm sick of all the negative energy. i'm elated about the line up and agree that every year i've attended, it's been amazing!

andromedarkly
01-30-2009, 02:33 PM
I'm 55...I think this thread's for me...

I go for the grass...the green grass that is(or otherwise)...and all the people, the mountains, the heat, the sun, the half naked bodies, the camping, the lights, hell...all of that, and THEN the music!

I'd go regardless of the line-up...and for it of course...

I'm 55...I think this thread's for me...

beavington
01-30-2009, 02:35 PM
this lineup was testament to the enjoyment I know I will have, even with no absolutely I must see or I will kick myself artists. I am not really fond of Paul McCartney but it is what it is, and if I really dont like it then I will go else where.

But everyone will have a good time as always. When do we get carnival rides?

crazzz2007
01-30-2009, 02:36 PM
here we go again..."this year is the worst year ever". really? have you been yet? this will be my sixth coachella and every year has been great - no matter what the lineup looks like beforehand. ask any of the repeat customers and we'll all agree that we don't go for the headliners, we go for the event as a whole. so, quit your bitching and be grateful that this awesome event exists and lets you see all kinds of great music. top to bottom, this is as strong a lineup as any. if you don't want to go, don't - coachella doesn't owe you anything, and you sound like a spoiled little brat. of course, im 40 and have more experience and better taste than you kids. :)

ps - thanks for superchunk. never thought i'd get to see them.

i agree with this post except for the part i bolded. you're just fooling yourself if you really think the lineup is as good a years past.

dancedancedance
01-30-2009, 02:40 PM
why do we have to compare?? the line up was sooo much better back in ___. i think that this year will be amazing.... paul weller, the kills, crystal castles, the cure, hercules and love affair, etc. i look forward to this every year because it's a time to see so many different genres of music.

Mockingbird73
01-30-2009, 02:42 PM
Well, I don't consider myself old at 35, but I guess maybe there's lots of crybabies on this board that would.

Leonard...Throbbing Gristle. Hell even Sir Paul. Sweet. A once in a lifetime experience.

Sure there's tons of other acts that I am excited to see, mostly mid to lower tier, but I like it that way. I am not in it for the headliners.

And the best part is doing the research and discovering things you didn't know about before.

Young blood
01-30-2009, 02:44 PM
Rails of Viagra for everyone, my treat.

crazzz2007
01-30-2009, 02:46 PM
why do we have to compare?? the line up was sooo much better back in ___. i think that this year will be amazing.... paul weller, the kills, crystal castles, the cure, hercules and love affair, etc. i look forward to this every year because it's a time to see so many different genres of music.

why do we have to compare? that's just a stupid question.

most people strive to improve over time, make things even better than they were in the past. the way you do this is by comparing.

bmack86
01-30-2009, 02:46 PM
i agree with this post except for the part i bolded. you're just fooling yourself if you really think the lineup is as good a years past.

I'm not fooling myself. I genuinely think it's a great lineup.

crazzz2007
01-30-2009, 02:47 PM
my beef is mostly with saturday.

dancedancedance
01-30-2009, 02:49 PM
i see your point but i don't really see how it applies here. like i said, i'm quite excited about the line up and the negativity towards it seems like a waste of energy. that's all.

SuperStar
01-30-2009, 02:55 PM
It's funny, because everyone is on the "saturday sucks" bandwagon, but it's the one day that I would go to if I could choose one.

The killers are the one headliner that's new and relevent, and yes, I like their music (I liked Hot Fuss a lot, haven't heard much of the more recent stuff).

Theivery Corporation!!!! I almost died when I saw them billed highly. One of my favorite all-time groups.

Been wanting to see Michael Franti for a long time... recommendations including my yoga teacher who is in love with him (well, and with B.O.).

I heart Atmosphere. Seen him several times in concert already. I hope he busts out some more old stuff... last time I saw him it was mostly the new album... which is more 'meh' to me.

dethroned
01-30-2009, 03:03 PM
Amen. If one more snot-nosed high-school or college-age shit accuses me of trying to relive my youth I'm going to scream. I've had WAY more fun in my 30's than I ever had in my teens, and I know more about music than most of them put together. :)

AbundantChoice
01-30-2009, 03:05 PM
32... old enough here. This'll be my 8th Coachella. I'd say the average age in our group of people is right around 30.

Had my plane tickets booked 2 weeks ago.
Got my Coachella tickets at 12:15.
Got my rental house with my friends locked down at 5.

Seriously, this lineup is fantastic irrespective of anyone's opinions of the headliners. Every "level" of the lineup has great acts, from the subheads (My Bloody Valentine, Theivery Corporation, Franz Ferdinand), to the midtier (Amanda Palmer, Antony, Turbonegro), to the up-and-comers (The Gaslight Anthem, Ida Maria, Friendly Fires). Amazing choices at every turn.

Here we go! And if i've learned something, it's that it's kind of impossible to judge how much fun you're going to have in a certain year based on the poster. It's that sometimes the lineups that look weaker on paper end up being the more memorable years. I wasn't super-psyched about the Coldplay-NIN Coachella heading into it, but that one ended up being one of my two favorite years!

ecalcott
01-30-2009, 03:22 PM
some more old person positivity: we have stamina.
maybe it's because we all have jobs and can afford hotels (and not campsites), but I've noticed that the kids wear out pretty quickly. im always amazed at how many people spend a great deal of time napping/passed out in the shade tents. i probably do 10 miles a day going from stage to stage, sucking it all in. the more i think about it, the more jazzed i get.

as for saturday, it looks fun to me. (no negativity). if anything, it might be a little more mellow than the other days: thievery corp, fleet foxes, and calexico offering a nice break perhaps. I know nothing about Bob Mould's new band, but a HuskerDu song here and there would be awesome.

maybe im not old enough? i need to better familiarize myself with throbbing gristle and leonard cohen. i look forward to rediscovering these guys.

previous coachella acts that are in my "all time" shows: the kills and lupe fiasco.

ecalcott
01-30-2009, 03:24 PM
Here we go! And if i've learned something, it's that it's kind of impossible to judge how much fun you're going to have in a certain year based on the poster.

Perfectly said.

andromedarkly
01-30-2009, 03:27 PM
Right on! I've got stamina!

Hardly no sleep for 4 nights in the campground, running around all day thirsty as hell, no food(didn't have the money!), and still...like the energizer bunny! HA!

idriveawkwardly
01-30-2009, 03:33 PM
This thread restored my faith in coachella-humanity.

(I'm young, but "old soul").

Rock on! I'm looking forward to Coachella this year! My parade was being rained on earlier by all the hate threads, but this is the silver lining.

AbundantChoice
01-30-2009, 03:41 PM
some more old person positivity: we have stamina.
maybe it's because we all have jobs and can afford hotels (and not campsites), but I've noticed that the kids wear out pretty quickly. im always amazed at how many people spend a great deal of time napping/passed out in the shade tents.


Drugs'll do that to 'em. Us old folks, we either keep clean, or we know how to handle our drugs, dammit!

But you're totally right... my friends and I are there around 1 each year, and go strong all the way through the end every day. No napping! Although I will admit to occasionally staying longer than intended at the Outdoor Theater stage, or choosing an Outdoor Theater act over another, because of those bleachers, especially in that 5-7 timeslot when you're still waiting for the sun to go down.


Also, your estimate of 10 miles isn't that far off. I wore a GPS watch one year for the hell of it (yes, I am a big geek), and on my "busiest" day that involved *alot* of trips from the Main Stage to the Sahara and back, and being stuck in the furthest parking lot, I logged in 12.5 miles of walking. The other two days were right around 10 miles.

andromedarkly
01-30-2009, 03:44 PM
Ok...I'll admit to hanging in the Do Lab for all the myst and stuff...a sit down there is a nice cool off...

Todfilm
01-30-2009, 04:09 PM
Best thing is to go and hang out in the air conditioned KROQ tent for 10-20 minutes to cool down during the day.

Edit: Also, a couple years ago I had the VIP pass, so I sat on the grass with my beer and watched Regina Spektor and Lupe Fiasco. It was nice and relaxing.

Memorial_07
01-30-2009, 05:16 PM
This lineup is a thousand times better than last year despite the headliners of course so I'll be enjoying myself while half of the board whines about it

MarkO
01-30-2009, 05:23 PM
The hate around the rest of the forum is depressing (unless it's hate for the killers). lol.

ecalcott
01-30-2009, 08:05 PM
Also, your estimate of 10 miles isn't that far off. I wore a GPS watch one year for the hell of it (yes, I am a big geek), and on my "busiest" day that involved *alot* of trips from the Main Stage to the Sahara and back, and being stuck in the furthest parking lot, I logged in 12.5 miles of walking. The other two days were right around 10 miles.

Ok you called me out...My coachellabuddy brought his gps one year and that's how i knew about the 10 miles. (not a watch but an actual handheld marine gps unit in his backpack.) Give or take 2 miles on those times we couldn't find the car and walked around like idiots for an hour. (why we didn't place a waypoint at the car i'll never know.)

i have been known to rest a bit at the outdoor bleachers as well, but mostly coachella seems to be my workout for the year. if you see some old guy stretching before a show, it's probably me :)

its been a 12 hours since first seeing the lineup and I continue to get more excited about the event.

ecalcott
01-30-2009, 08:07 PM
5/26/09 : My daughter is due!.
Congrats. My 4year old was born 5/19. This will make me sound really old, but how they let babies into this thing is mind-boggling and disturbing.

MarkO
01-31-2009, 09:39 AM
Thanks dude. :)