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deathvalleyblues
01-30-2009, 02:07 AM
Fuck Morrissey, Fuck Franz Cohen BETTER be before McCartney

murmur
01-30-2009, 02:13 AM
Yeah, Cohen is a pleasant surprise. He is easily the best artist on the Friday line-up. Unfortunately no one is familiar with him anymore.

But no fuck Morrissey! Morrissey good!

Boourns
01-30-2009, 02:14 AM
Hell yes to Leonard Cohen. That was a surprise.

SEEDYMIG420
01-30-2009, 02:17 AM
Leonard Cohen is my "NIGGAH" I love his music. I've been waiting since 1993 to see him perform live. A dream come true, indeed.

murmur741
01-30-2009, 02:18 AM
Oh yes, that is going to be fantastic.

SEEDYMIG420
01-30-2009, 02:21 AM
I don't want to go overboard, but since it's going to be a special show with Leonard Cohen, I'm going to have to do it.....yup, I'm set on doing it......and this will make it all the much better.......I am going to shoot up some black tar heroin durring Leonard Cohen's set. Who's with me???

ADrunkPoet
01-30-2009, 02:23 AM
Leonard Cohen is one of the artists that makes me wonder if I want to spend $300 on this lineup.

Xenocide
01-30-2009, 02:33 AM
i can't figure out if they planning on giving him a 6pm main stage slot or closing Outdoor...

what does everyone think?

SEEDYMIG420
01-30-2009, 02:33 AM
"Every body knows that the dice are loaded."

inutil
01-30-2009, 02:43 AM
man I love me some Friday....

Boourns
01-30-2009, 02:49 AM
i can't figure out if they planning on giving him a 6pm main stage slot or closing Outdoor...

what does everyone think?

Hopefully main. Closing the outdoor surely means conflicting with McCartney and that's unacceptable.

Imagine...
Cohen 6-6:50
Franz Ferdinand 7:15-8:05
Morrissey 8:30-9:30
McCartney 10:00-12:00

I would camp at the main stage for this.

wstsidela
01-30-2009, 02:52 AM
First we take Manhattan
Then we take Berlin

Optimistic
01-30-2009, 04:11 AM
Cohen is amazing. Nice grab coachella. Friday is stacked (for now) compared to saturday. Move Cohen, Franz or Morrissey to sat. and we'd be better off

Harrisment
01-30-2009, 04:31 AM
Man people are going crazy about Cohen. I'm embarrassed to say that I've heard his name, but I don't have a clue what any of his music is. Isn't he like 80?

SEEDYMIG420
01-30-2009, 05:06 AM
Man people are going crazy about Cohen. I'm embarrassed to say that I've heard his name, but I don't have a clue what any of his music is. Isn't he like 80?

youtube.com type in his name. Very good writer. I love his voice.

KolbySexualHealing
01-30-2009, 05:24 AM
Yes thank you indeed for Mr. Cohen.
All stages should stop while he plays the Outdoor.

skavron
01-30-2009, 05:25 AM
Hopefully main. Closing the outdoor surely means conflicting with McCartney and that's unacceptable.

Imagine...
Cohen 6-6:50
Franz Ferdinand 7:15-8:05
Morrissey 8:30-9:30
McCartney 10:00-12:00

I would camp at the main stage for this.

haha! hope there's plenty of room for both, sounds like a plan!

braundiggity
01-30-2009, 05:31 AM
It's true, all they'd have to do is switch Franz to Saturday's undercard and people would have less to complain about that day. And Cohen-->Morrissey-->McCartney works better than added Franz in the middle there.

Betamike
01-30-2009, 05:32 AM
Cohen is great. Very influential. Those that are young enough to believe that Jeff Buckley wrote "Hallelujah" need to give thanks to Mr. Cohen.

Come hear the original version and be amazed.

shotglass75
01-30-2009, 05:33 AM
I said Leonard Cohen back in September. Saw him at Glasto and he was awesome. Just an amazing songwriter. It'll be chill but it'll be really good. perfect time to light up and lay back

razorblade
01-30-2009, 05:34 AM
Leonard Cohen is the coolest artist of the entire weekend, and the only one that almost makes me want to go this year.

His voice is godlike, and he is a songwriter who's only peer is Bob Dylan.

Halllelujah!

mikey.golightly
01-30-2009, 05:38 AM
I'm so thrilled about Leonard but don't poo-poo Franz in the middle of that. Ever pay attention to their lyrics? Friday's all about songwriting. And the best bass player to ever walk the planet. Jesus Fucking Christ, we're going to see a BEATLE!

And Leonard Cohen!!!

razorblade
01-30-2009, 06:04 AM
If you aren't familiar with Leonard Cohen, check out the documentary I'm Your Man

Interviews mixed with performances from a tribute concert featuring Nick Cave, Rufus Wainwright, U2, and the man himself.

Awesome.

woogie846
01-30-2009, 06:05 AM
Leonard Cohen is an awesome surprise.

sydaud
01-30-2009, 06:08 AM
Yeah, I never expected to see his name up there. A most excellent addition!!!

SoulDischarge
01-30-2009, 03:50 PM
Check the Glastonbury set list.

'Dance Me To The End Of Love'
'The Future'
'Ain't No Cure For Love'
'Bird On A Wire'
'Everybody Knows'
'Who By Fire'
'Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye'
'So Long, Marianne'
'Tower Of Song'
'Suzanne'
'Hallelujah'
'Democracy'
'I'm Your Man'
'Closing Time'
'Anthem'
'First We Take Manhattan'

sacleonard
01-30-2009, 03:56 PM
And the best bass player to ever walk the planet.

Primus is playing?
(kidding)

Seriously, Leonard Cohen is a great surprise, and I think that he'll be playing the Main Stage at sunset. I wonder if they have time to squeeze Franz in between Leonard Cohen and Morrissey, or does anyone else think that they could close out the Outdoor Stage (conflict with Paul)?

frozen pilgrim
01-30-2009, 03:57 PM
leonard cohen was one of the "oh WOW, really?! moments for me reading the lineup. what an amazing songwriter. thank you thank you thank you goldenvoice. this will be one to tell our kids about.

virvilos
01-30-2009, 05:22 PM
god i love leonard cohen... i went and saw him in toronto last may and it was mind blowing.... if i ever a wish was granted it was that coachella(i've attended '06, '07, '08) would be combined with my favorite artist the forever fabulous leonard cohen!

boyalien0
01-30-2009, 05:28 PM
This was the one (and only) WOW act for me on the poster this year. I'm pretty much going for Leonard Cohen.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
01-30-2009, 05:30 PM
Leonard Cohen before McCartney plz.....put Franz at the Outdoor.

clumsy342
01-30-2009, 05:31 PM
I'm listening now... I don't get it.
Goddammit. Why does this lineup make me feel out of the loop?

Morissey, Cohen, the Cure, Franz (ughh.. really?), Thievery Corp....

Fuck me, I guess.

boyalien0
01-30-2009, 05:33 PM
I'm listening now... I don't get it.
Goddammit. Why does this lineup make me feel out of the loop?

Morissey, Cohen, the Cure, Franz (ughh.. really?), Thievery Corp....

Fuck me, I guess.

Fuck a lot of us.

But Cohen is god.

karecares
01-30-2009, 05:35 PM
wow moment for me too. super psyched about that.....hoping for sunset slot

karecares
01-30-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm listening now... I don't get it.
Goddammit. Why does this lineup make me feel out of the loop?

Morissey, Cohen, the Cure, Franz (ughh.. really?), Thievery Corp....

Fuck me, I guess.
not everything is for everyone i guess

clumsy342
01-30-2009, 05:37 PM
Enjoy Leonard Cohen, guys! I'm not hating.. but while listening, I felt the need to post.

Yvette1007
01-30-2009, 05:47 PM
Cohen at sunset on main stage, followed by Morrissey, then Sir Paul. Please Goldenvoice???! There can not be scheduling conflicts with these 3 or else I'll be bummed (along with thousands of others).

Stickjohn
01-30-2009, 06:18 PM
Cohen at sunset on main stage, followed by Morrissey, then Sir Paul. Please Goldenvoice???! There can not be scheduling conflicts with these 3 or else I'll be bummed (along with thousands of others).

+1 Please no conflict between these three!!

T-Rye
01-30-2009, 06:26 PM
I'm listening now... I don't get it.
Goddammit. Why does this lineup make me feel out of the loop?

Morissey, Cohen, the Cure, Franz (ughh.. really?), Thievery Corp....

Fuck me, I guess.

All depends on what you're listening to. For one, at least for many people I know, you have to look past the production. It's pretty cheese ball. The thing that makes Cohen who he is, are the songs we writes. Brilliant song writer.

meat curtains
01-30-2009, 07:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh9AC0jCGjY

...Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two...

meat curtains
01-30-2009, 07:22 PM
...And everybody knows that its now or never
Everybody knows that its me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when youve done a line or two...

woogie846
01-30-2009, 08:01 PM
Leonard Cohen is the best surprise on the line up.

KingofFlorence
01-30-2009, 08:20 PM
for sure i almost jumped out of my seat when i saw his name on the line-up! didn't expect that one at all!

Rashomon
01-30-2009, 08:56 PM
I hadn't planned on going this year, but promised myself that if Leonard Cohen or Nick Cave made the cut I'd do it, never remotely expecting it to happen. I think I had a near death experience when I actually saw him on the poster this morning.

If the poster had come out with only the names Leonard Cohen, Throbbing Gristle and My Bloody Valentine on it I'd still be more than happy to make the drive and shell out $300.

By far my favorite announcement since Bauhaus/Gang of Four/New Order in '05.

carolinesgood
01-30-2009, 09:06 PM
the more i think about it after 7 years without em, im considering bringing the family - what better way to stimulate the economy with an art-filled beautiful field day. finally this could feel better and reverberate through out our lives for a very long time - super sustaining.

OCMusicJunkie
01-30-2009, 09:41 PM
Cohen was one of the main reasons I bought tickets without thinking twice this year.

Google how many other artists actually use Leonard Cohen's name in their song lyrics. Even if you don't know who he is, he probably inspired at least a handful of your favorite artists.

PS- this is coming from a 23 year-old. I've never had a chance to see him, have never known anyone who liked him. Just know how much he did for music, and realize the importance of getting to see him at least once.

Boourns
01-30-2009, 10:25 PM
Cohen was one of the main reasons I bought tickets without thinking twice this year.

Google how many other artists actually use Leonard Cohen's name in their song lyrics. Even if you don't know who he is, he probably inspired at least a handful of your favorite artists.

PS- this is coming from a 23 year-old. I've never had a chance to see him, have never known anyone who liked him. Just know how much he did for music, and realize the importance of getting to see him at least once.

Even if everyone hasn't heard Leonard Cohen, they've heard him covered.

http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/coverlist.php

matsuolost
01-30-2009, 10:32 PM
i hope i get to hear "first we take manhattan" when i get to the main stage to catch morrissey

shotglass75
01-30-2009, 10:57 PM
If it be your will

Antony
1MDlMdu2gjw

Leonard
H-myjV64xfs

meat curtains
01-31-2009, 05:07 PM
Waiting for the Miracle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc_dgbCHs58

my favorite part:

"Ah I don't believe you'd like it,
You wouldn't like it here
There ain't no entertainment
and the judgements are severe
The Maestro says it's Mozart
but it sounds like bubble gum
when you're waiting
for the miracle, for the miracle to come"

frozen pilgrim
01-31-2009, 05:32 PM
the man is a poet. a true poet. I can't wait to sit back on the grass under the endless sky and listen to him take us on a journey

killsunshine
01-31-2009, 05:35 PM
I'm listening now... I don't get it.
Goddammit. Why does this lineup make me feel out of the loop?

Morissey, Cohen, the Cure, Franz (ughh.. really?), Thievery Corp....

Fuck me, I guess.

no man, i feel you. same page.

Stickjohn
01-31-2009, 05:41 PM
Those "If It Be Your Will" clips are crazy. I can almost get them to play at the same time and then it's like a duet.

I don't recommend this.

LooseAtTheZoo
01-31-2009, 05:46 PM
His voice sounds so shot and weak. The guy is a great songwriter, but I think for many people he is just a nostalgia act at this point.

goodtobemike
01-31-2009, 06:44 PM
his name was all I needed to hear...

this is a dream for me, and the ONLY artist that could repair
my Bowie-shattered heart....

I will be up against the barricade of whatever stage/tent he's on.

"And the whole damn place goes crazy twice. And it's once for the devil and once for Christ But the Boss don't like these dizzy heights ...
we're busted in the blinding light"

Rockstarboy37
01-31-2009, 06:47 PM
i can't figure out if they planning on giving him a 6pm main stage slot or closing Outdoor...

what does everyone think?

Who the fuck is Leonard Cohen?

MancYank
01-31-2009, 06:59 PM
*eye roll*

frozen pilgrim
01-31-2009, 07:05 PM
I really get the impression that the average age of the newest crop of people is maybe thirteen or fourteen.

Stickjohn
01-31-2009, 07:06 PM
I'm already suffering a nasty case of ear worm from watching the "everybody knows" video.
I can't get it out of my head. Friday is going to be ...there are no words.

Thief of Fire
02-02-2009, 07:14 PM
I was born like this, I had no choice
I was born with the gift of a golden voice
And twenty-seven angels from the great beyond
They tied me to this table right here
In the tower of song

Gribbz
02-02-2009, 07:18 PM
I'm listening now... I don't get it.
Goddammit. Why does this lineup make me feel out of the loop?

Morissey, Cohen, the Cure, Franz (ughh.. really?), Thievery Corp....

Fuck me, I guess.

I said the same thing about Franz. I kinda like their new album though.

ELPOLLOLOCO
02-02-2009, 08:23 PM
this shit weirds me out...and isn't this like his most popular song?

rf36v0epfmI

Aurgasm
02-02-2009, 08:24 PM
Fuck Morrissey, Fuck Franz Cohen BETTER be before McCartney

Franz then Morrissey then Cohen then McCartney..

no?

Aurgasm
02-02-2009, 08:25 PM
this shit weirds me out...and isn't this like his most popular song?


That is a bit creepy.

Sonicifyouwantit
02-02-2009, 09:38 PM
Fuck Morrissey, Fuck Franz Cohen BETTER be before McCartney

I don't think I agree at all with your cursing moz or franz but yeah I was just thinking or I guess it just hit me...how cool is that? cohen is performing!

SecretPrescription
02-02-2009, 11:36 PM
morrissey will close the outdoor and all you depressed motherfuckers can watch him cry on stage while the rest of us are at paul mccartney
(hopefully)

Sonicifyouwantit
02-02-2009, 11:39 PM
morrissey will close the outdoor and all you depressed motherfuckers can watch him cry on stage while the rest of us are at paul mccartney
(hopefully)

I also dont get the whole depressed thing...have you listened to his music? even the smiths? the great majority has very upbeat rhythms...just sayin' a lot of it can be danced to and I saw him recently...he was smiling and joking around the entire time.

SecretPrescription
02-02-2009, 11:45 PM
his voice just never did it for me i guess

i suppose its not actually depressing music

depressingly boring for me

sorryz

SecretPrescription
02-02-2009, 11:47 PM
oops

Gribbz
02-02-2009, 11:47 PM
oh, RLY

SoulDischarge
02-02-2009, 11:52 PM
Aezsbd4pP3g

He's been playing Who By Fire at a lot of his recent sets. It's going to be weird hearing that with him looking so decrepit. I think in general it's going to be a very emotional set.

meat curtains
02-03-2009, 12:24 AM
the future:
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"...Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
stuff it up the hole
in your culture..."

Duvel
02-03-2009, 12:29 AM
......great, great call to get Mr. Cohen on board.

Well done - Golden Voice and all associated.

....i just hope he doesn't clash with other 'essentials' ;-O

lostsoul86
02-03-2009, 01:01 AM
the future:
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/D97OxHZzBeQ&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/D97OxHZzBeQ&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

"...Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
stuff it up the hole
in your culture..."

omg i love that line where he says when they say repent i wonder what they meant! awesome! anyone recommend an album of his for me to pick up ?

skavron
02-03-2009, 02:21 AM
omg i love that line where he says when they say repent i wonder what they meant! awesome! anyone recommend an album of his for me to pick up ?

the essentials, is a compilation of his greatest hits... a double disc album and songlist is in cronological order. then you may decide which leonard's style you like the most and go get that album.

normalone75
02-03-2009, 05:34 AM
Leonard Cohen is one of the artists that makes me wonder if I want to spend $300 on this lineup.

Finally someone with some sense!

Somewhat Damaged
02-03-2009, 10:50 AM
I listened to Songs of Leonard Cohen last night for the first time -- he's immediately the artist I'm looking forward to most.

natelan
02-03-2009, 11:07 AM
Hopefully main. Closing the outdoor surely means conflicting with McCartney and that's unacceptable.

Imagine...
Cohen 6-6:50
Franz Ferdinand 7:15-8:05
Morrissey 8:30-9:30
McCartney 10:00-12:00

I would camp at the main stage for this.

Agreed with Boourns... 'T would be a fantastic set.

Gribbz
02-03-2009, 11:10 AM
Agreed with Boourns... 'T would be a fantastic set.

Minus Morrisey.

jasonV
02-03-2009, 04:11 PM
hopefully coachella allows blankets and pillows in this year so i can at least be comfortable passing out to cohen

hendrixfan143
02-03-2009, 04:37 PM
my uncle tried to get me into cohen a ew years back and i never understood it but that "If it be your will" vid just sold me

Blinken
02-19-2009, 05:37 PM
I feel like I am the only one that doesn't care for Cohen. I happy for all of you but i don't get it. His music has way to many religious undertones for me, maybe it is just the songs I have been listening to the Essential Leonard Cohen, and can't listen to more than 2 or 3 tracks before i get annoyed/bored. I guess I just don't get it.

I am happy for all of you that are excited for this though.

Weatherman
02-20-2009, 01:07 AM
Cohen's show in New York:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090220/ap_en_re/music_leonard_cohen_return

cooperb1
02-20-2009, 01:59 AM
Leonard Cohen will be so good .

PLURallovermyface
02-20-2009, 03:09 AM
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE play "Waiting For The Miracle" (also used for the Natural Born Killers soundtrack!) I LOVE that song!!!


Zc_dgbCHs58

I'm an alias...
02-20-2009, 08:18 AM
Anyone with XM...Ron Bennington from Ron & Fez saw Cohen last night, and is going on and on about it right now...says it was "life changing". 3 Hour Show. Channel 202.

EDIT- The concert was 3 hours, not the radio show. Actually the radio show is 3 hours too, but I'm sure he'll move on soon.

CellarOwl
02-20-2009, 08:46 AM
Cohen is the single biggest reason why I'm making the transcontinental trek this year to see Coachella. Even pushing octogenarian-status, nobody can hold a candle to his legendary heights of badassness.

boarderwoozel3
02-20-2009, 08:55 AM
I really want to see Cohen but am very worried about potential conflicts! =/ So long as he doesn't conflict with Moz or Macca I'll see his set. This is one of those acts that we may not get another shot at.

humanoid
02-20-2009, 09:19 AM
I kinda wish I didn't now know that he's playing the week before Coachella in LA...

HandBanana
02-20-2009, 09:36 AM
Has it occured to anyone else here that we get to see LEONARD FUCKING COHEN?

Im excited is all.

humanoid
02-20-2009, 09:38 AM
nope, we hadn't thought of it

HandBanana
02-20-2009, 10:00 AM
I want "Famous Blue Raincoat" at sunset.
Cool lawn, lying on my back, staring at sky, playing with blades of grass.

Thats all I ask. It's not much but its also more than enough.

familyguy420
02-20-2009, 10:37 AM
If you aren't familiar with Leonard Cohen, check out the documentary I'm Your Man

Interviews mixed with performances from a tribute concert featuring Nick Cave, Rufus Wainwright, U2, and the man himself.

Awesome.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2046365778231847428

hancho09
02-20-2009, 10:37 AM
Cohen and Lou Reed together, make it happen

CellarOwl
02-20-2009, 10:42 AM
I really want to see Cohen but am very worried about potential conflicts! =/ So long as he doesn't conflict with Moz or Macca I'll see his set. This is one of those acts that we may not get another shot at.

Of the three, Cohen is the most likely to a) never play another show after this, his first tour in 15 years and b) kick the bucket soonest.

The argument for Cohen shouldn't even come to that point yet though, because it's still Leonard fucking Cohen and that's more than enough reason in itself not to let his set go ignored. Even if he plays Closing Time. For the full hour.

HandBanana
02-20-2009, 10:46 AM
Theres no way they will let Cohen conflict with another major act.
Remember, Tollett and co are fans too.
They wouldnt want to miss either.

hancho09
02-20-2009, 10:46 AM
He won't conflict with Pauly Mac so hopefully i say fuck morrisey over franz but we'll see, sad conflict regardless but such it is at an incredible festival.

TallGuyCM
02-20-2009, 11:49 AM
Cohen and Lou Reed together, make it happen

Oh God. I literally couldn't physically handle that. It'd send me into a state of permanent schizophrenic awe.

boarderwoozel3
02-20-2009, 11:51 AM
^
I've just discovered Mr. Cohen as a result of this years Coachella and let me tell you, I'm trilled! P-P-Please no nasty conflicts!

Devin the Dude
02-20-2009, 11:53 AM
this guy suxx

jeff buckley
remix
Girl Talk

*predicted*

boarderwoozel3
02-20-2009, 11:55 AM
Theres no way they will let Cohen conflict with another major act.
Remember, Tollett and co are fans too.
They wouldnt want to miss either.

I hope. Ideally we could get him on the mainstage before Moz and Macca but I don't see that happening with Franz in the mix as well. Maybe the Willie nelson slot in 07 before Crowded House, Manu & Rage? But then you have to factor in Beirut! Urg! Franz really needs to be moved to Sat. to head-off inevitable conflict heartbreak :( It's an embarrassment of riches.

Foppie
02-20-2009, 11:56 AM
2009 Cohen Tour

04-02 Austin, TX - Michael and Susan Dell Hall at Long Center
04-03 Grand Prarie, TX - Nokia Theatre at Grand Prarie
04-05 Phoenix, AZ - Dodge Theatre
04-07 San Diego, CA - Copley Symphony Hall
04-10 Los Angeles, CA - Nokia Theatre L.A. Live
04-13 Oakland, CA - Paramount Theatre of the Arts
04-17 Indio, CA - Coachella Festival
04-19 Vancouver, British Columbia - General Motors Place
04-21 Victoria, British Columbia - Save-On-Foods Memorial Centre
04-23 Seattle, WA - WaMu Theater at Qwest FieldEvents Center
04-25 Edmonton, Alberta - Rexall Place
04-26 Calgary, Alberta - EPCOR Centre's Jack Singer Hall
04-28 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - Credit Union Centre
04-30 Winnipeg, Manitoba - MTS Centre
05-03 Minneapolis, MN - Orpheum Theatre
05-05 Chicago, IL - The Chicago Theatre
05-09 Detroit, MI - Fox Theatre
05-11 Columbia, MD - Merriweather Post Pavilion
05-12 Philadelphia, PA - Academy of Music
05-14 Waterbury, CT - Palace Theater
05-16 New York, NY - Radio City Music Hall
05-19 Hamilton, Ontario - Copps Coliseum
05-21 Quebec City, Quebec - Pavillon de la Jeunesse
05-22 Kingston, Ontario - K-Rock Centre
05-24 London, Ontario - John Labatt Centre
05-25 Ottowa, Ontario - National Arts Centre, Southam Hall
05-29 Boston, MA - Wang Theatre
06-02 Morrison, CO - Red Rocks Amphitheatre

Best tix for the LA Nokia Show are going for $254.50!

boarderwoozel3
02-20-2009, 11:58 AM
2009 Cohen Tour

04-23 Seattle, WA - WaMu Theater at Qwest FieldEvents Center

Best tix for the LA Nokia Show are going for $254.50!

Looks like I'll be buying s ticket to this.

Edit: HOLY FUCK! The Cheapest tickets are $69 before fees! We're looking at $85 just to get in the door. Scratch that, I'll have to catch his Coachella set now =/ There will be other chances to see Beirut and Franz in the future. Shit could get drastic if he conflicts with Moz or Macca though...

dorkfish
02-20-2009, 11:59 AM
2009 Cohen Tour

04-02 Austin, TX - Michael and Susan Dell Hall at Long Center
04-03 Grand Prarie, TX - Nokia Theatre at Grand Prarie
04-05 Phoenix, AZ - Dodge Theatre
04-07 San Diego, CA - Copley Symphony Hall
04-10 Los Angeles, CA - Nokia Theatre L.A. Live
04-13 Oakland, CA - Paramount Theatre of the Arts
04-17 Indio, CA - Coachella Festival
04-19 Vancouver, British Columbia - General Motors Place
04-21 Victoria, British Columbia - Save-On-Foods Memorial Centre
04-23 Seattle, WA - WaMu Theater at Qwest FieldEvents Center
04-25 Edmonton, Alberta - Rexall Place
04-26 Calgary, Alberta - EPCOR Centre's Jack Singer Hall
04-28 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - Credit Union Centre
04-30 Winnipeg, Manitoba - MTS Centre
05-03 Minneapolis, MN - Orpheum Theatre
05-05 Chicago, IL - The Chicago Theatre
05-09 Detroit, MI - Fox Theatre
05-11 Columbia, MD - Merriweather Post Pavilion
05-12 Philadelphia, PA - Academy of Music
05-14 Waterbury, CT - Palace Theater
05-16 New York, NY - Radio City Music Hall
05-19 Hamilton, Ontario - Copps Coliseum
05-21 Quebec City, Quebec - Pavillon de la Jeunesse
05-22 Kingston, Ontario - K-Rock Centre
05-24 London, Ontario - John Labatt Centre
05-25 Ottowa, Ontario - National Arts Centre, Southam Hall
05-29 Boston, MA - Wang Theatre
06-02 Morrison, CO - Red Rocks Amphitheatre

Best tix for the LA Nokia Show are going for $254.50!
He's touring again because he was broke after his ex-manager stole most of his money. Gotta make a retirement fund through ticket prices.

CellarOwl
02-20-2009, 12:12 PM
He's touring again because he was broke after his ex-manager stole most of his money. Gotta make a retirement fund through ticket prices.

Thankfully, I don't think he'll have to worry about that anymore. His tour last year grossed over 36 million dollars.

boarderwoozel3
02-20-2009, 12:13 PM
Thankfully, I don't think he'll have to worry about that anymore. His tour last year grossed over 36 million dollars.

With ticket prices like that it's not hard to see how.

humanoid
02-20-2009, 01:23 PM
I've been a fan for a long time, and never thought I'd get to see him in my lifetime, so Mr. Cohen wins any conflict there may be.

PS. calling him Leonard "fucking" Cohen sounds as if you're referring to someone more along the lines of Rage Against the Fucking Machine, MegafuckingDeth, LinkinfuckingPark....just doesn't sound appropriate when referring to such a brilliant and thoughtful artist as this

stinkbutt
02-20-2009, 01:38 PM
I'm so glad he is coming here before I leave but I'm guessing tickets are gonna be spendy

dorkfish
02-20-2009, 02:09 PM
last night's show sound amazing:

Beacon Theater setlist
Dance Me To The End of Love
The Future
Aint No Cure For Love
Bird on the Wire
Everybody Knows
In My Secret Life
Who By Fire
Chelsea Hotel
Hey That's No Way/Sisters of Mercy
Anthem

Tower Song
Suzanne
The Gypsy's Wife
The Partisan
Boogie Street
Hallelujah
I'm Your Man
Poem
Take This Waltz

So Long Marianne
First We Take Manhattan

Famous Blue Raincoat
If It Be Your Will
Democracy

I Tried To Leave You

Whither Thou Goest

biffbangpow
02-20-2009, 03:47 PM
I live in Leonard's hometown of Montreal and I read in the newspaper this morning about his new north american tour and the reporter (Alain De Repentigny of La Presse) says that Cohen's will be the only stage happening during his set. I guess Tollett likes him that much!! And the lineup looks like this (according to this same reporter) on the main stage: Leonard, Franz, Morrissey with Paul closing.

HandBanana
02-20-2009, 04:29 PM
Alain De Repentigny
La Presse
Depuis bientôt un an, Leonard Cohen a entrepris une tournée de concerts qui l'a mené au Canada, en Europe deux fois plutôt qu'une ainsi que, depuis janvier, en Australie et en Nouvelle-Zélande. Jeudi, le poète montréalais se produira à New York pour la première fois en 16 ans. Son retour en Amérique coïncidera avec le lancement d'un album double et d'un DVD témoins de son spectacle.
Vendredi dernier, le Beacon Theatre de New York a rouvert ses portes avec un spectacle de Paul Simon. À son tour, Leonard Cohen y sera ce jeudi, le temps d'un concert, son premier en 16 ans aux États-Unis. Il profitera de l'occasion pour annoncer les détails de sa tournée nord-américaine qui passera par le Canada et le Québec au cours des prochains mois. On sait déjà que Cohen chantera au festival rock californien Coachella le vendredi 17 avril, le même soir que Paul McCartney, Morrissey et Franz Ferdinand.
Le 31 mars, Sony lancera simultanément un album double et un DVD double, Live in London, enregistrés le 17 juillet 2008 au O2 Arena. Moins d'un mois après avoir chanté au Festival de jazz de Montréal, Cohen a repris ce soir-là à quelques chansons près, devant 16 000 spectateurs londoniens, le programme de ses concerts à la salle Wilfrid-Pelletier, de Dance Me To The End of Love à l'hymne Wither Thou Goest chanté a cappella avec ses musiciens en toute fin de spectacle. Ce Live in London sera le tout premier enregistrement de Cohen sur le marché depuis son album Dear Heather, paru en 2004.
En 2008, l'artiste de 74 ans a donné pas moins de 84 concerts devant 700 000 spectateurs. Et ce n'est pas fini. Après sa virée nord-américaine du printemps, Cohen devrait retourner chanter en Europe. Un autre DVD, filmé en haute définition celui-là, sera lancé en format Blu-ray à la fin de cette tournée entreprise le 11 mai 2008 à Fredericton.
stfa

HandBanana
02-20-2009, 04:29 PM
Now, if we take the futile step of running that thru Babelfish we get this:

For soon a year, Leonard Cohen has undertaken a round in concerts which l' led to Canada, in Europe twice rather qu' like, since January, in Australia and New Zealand. Thursday, the poet montréalais will occur in New York for the first time in 16 years. Its return in America will coincide with launching d' a double album and d' a pilot DVD of its spectacle. Last Friday, Beacon Theatre of New York reopened its doors with a spectacle of Paul Simon. In his turn, Leonard Cohen will be there this Thursday, time d' a concert, its first in 16 years in the United States. He will benefit from l' occasion to announce the details of its North-American round which will pass by Canada and Quebec during the next months. It is known already that Cohen will sing with the festival Californian rock'n'roll Coachella on Friday April 17, the same evening as Paul McCartney, Morrissey and Franz Ferdinand. On March 31, Sony will launch simultaneously a double album and a double DVD, Live in London, recorded on July 17, 2008 with O2 Arena. Less d' one month after having sung with the Jazz festival of Montreal, Cohen took again this evening except for some songs, in front of 16.000 London spectators, the programme of its concerts in the room Wilfrid-Furrier, of Dance Me To The End off Coils with l' anthem Wither Thou Goest sung has cappella with its musicians in all end of spectacle. This Live in London will be the very first recording of Cohen on the market since its album Dear Heather, published in 2004. In 2008, l' 74 year old artist gave not less than 84 concerts in front of 700.000 spectators. And this n' is not finished. After its transfered North-American of spring, Cohen should turn over to sing in Europe. Another DVD, filmed in high-definition that one, will be launched in Blu-ray format at the end of this round undertaken on May 11, 2008 with Fredericton.

biffbangpow
02-20-2009, 04:49 PM
The above (the french and horribly translated) article from La Presse (a French newspaper in Montreal) is an older article from earlier this week. I read the "only stage show" information in the new article from today's (Friday) newspaper. Here is the article in it's original french version.

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(York, New) Leonard Cohen sera de retour au pays en mai pour chanter à Québec et à Ottawa, mais pas à Montréal. En effet, la tournée du poète montréalais s'arrêtera au Pavillon de la jeunesse, à Québec, le jeudi 21 mai, et au Centre national des arts d'Ottawa, le 25 mai.

Tout juste de retour d'Australie et de Nouvelle-Zélande, Cohen lancé hier le volet américain de sa tournée mondiale entreprise au Canada l'an dernier avec un premier concert en 15 ans aux États-Unis, à guichets fermés, au Beacon Theatre de New York. Une centaine de journalistes se trouvaient parmi les fans de Cohen pour ce concert-événement dont nous reparlerons demain.

La tournée américaine de Leonard Cohen ne se mettra toutefois véritablement en branle que le 2 avril à Austin, Texas, pour se terminer à Red Rocks, Colorado, le 2 juin. Cohen chantera évidemment à New York, Boston, Chicago et Los Angeles, ainsi qu'au festival rock californien Coachella - au même programme que Paul McCartney, Morrissey et Franz Ferdinand, le 17 avril. Ce soir-là, exceptionnellement, toutes les autres scènes seront muettes pendant que Cohen chantera sur la grande scène de Coachella.

La tournée du chanteur le ramènera aussi au Canada. Ainsi, 11 des 28 concerts prévus en Amérique du Nord à ce jour auront lieu au pays, à Vancouver, Victoria, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Hamilton, London, Kingston en plus de Québec et Ottawa.

Et Montréal?

Rubin Fogel, qui coproduit le concert de Québec, est aux anges: «Tu peux imaginer la quantité d'appels qu'on a reçus l'an dernier quand Cohen a chanté deux soirs à Saguenay, mais pas à Québec! À l'époque, on nous a dit de ne pas nous inquiéter, qu'il reviendrait dans un an et qu'on ne voyait pas pourquoi il n'irait pas à Québec. C'est chose faite.»

Le Pavillon de la jeunesse est un aréna récemment rénové, situé à côté du Colisée, et qui pourra accueillir environ 4000 spectateurs pour le concert de Cohen. La date de mise en vente des billets pour ce concert et celui d'Ottawa sera dévoilée aujourd'hui.

«Leonard regrettait énormément de ne pas chanter à Québec et Ottawa l'an dernier et il est très heureux de pouvoir enfin le faire cette fois, dit son agent Robert Kory. Rappelons-nous qu'il a entrepris sa tournée dans de petites salles des Maritimes et de Saguenay avant de chanter dans de grands théâtres à Toronto et Montréal.»

Leonard Cohen ne s'arrêtera pas cette fois dans sa ville natale où il a donné trois concerts à la salle Wilfrid-Pelletier en juin 2008. Kory n'exclut pas un arrêt à Montréal avant la fin de la tournée, dont on ne sait pas quand elle se terminera, mais il ne veut surtout pas faire de projections trop hâtives.

«Leonard a beaucoup d'affection pour Montréal et si les astres sont bien alignés, on ne sait jamais. Mais n'oublions pas qu'il n'a pas encore donné de concerts aux États-Unis (avant celui du Beacon) et qu'il n'a pas non plus chanté dans plusieurs pays européens. Ainsi, plusieurs villes le réclament en Espagne où il n'a chanté qu'une heure au Festival de Benicassim.» Jusqu'ici, plus de 750 000 spectateurs ont vu Leonard Cohen et ses neuf musiciens et chanteurs depuis le début de cette tournée à Fredericton, en mai 2008.

Rappelons qu'un CD double et un DVD témoins du premier grand spectacle d'aréna de cette tournée, le 17 juillet 2008 à Londres, sera mis en vente le 31 mars.

Alain De Repentigny
La Presse

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-20-2009, 05:28 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/21/arts/music/21cohe.html?hp

Leonard Cohen kept returning to the stance of a supplicant at the Beacon Theater on Thursday night, dropping to one knee, or both, to intone his wry and ruminative songs. At the same time, he basked in the rapture of the crowd, artfully courting adulation. His mix of humility and sovereignty felt effortless, entirely true to form. And it girded the concert, his first in the United States in 15 years, with a vibrant and effective tension.

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Leonard Cohen in concert at the Beacon Theater on Thursday.
Mr. Cohen, 74, left little room for disappointment in a show that lasted just over three hours (with an intermission) and featured more than two dozen songs. The evening doubled as a preview, coming with the eagerly anticipated announcement of a North American tour this spring. (The tour includes a stop at Radio City Music Hall on May 16.) Mr. Cohen began his return to the road last year, with a slew of dates in Europe and his native Canada; one of them yielded “Live in London,” an album and DVD due out next month from Columbia.

The rigors of performing have reinvigorated Mr. Cohen, whose trademark black suit and fedora conveyed a somber chic. He literally skipped offstage at the end of each half, and after each of his several encores. He sashayed back on, with the slyest of grins. And his voice, that grave and inflexible instrument, occasionally escaped its granitelike restraints. On “Chelsea Hotel #2,” one of the best-received songs of the night, he sang with the resonant candor of his younger self, though that moment was brief and bittersweet.

Comforts are fleeting in Mr. Cohen’s songs, and contradictions are eternal. He was unsparing with his song choice, delving early on into “The Future” (“I’ve seen the future, brother/It is murder”) and savoring the sting of “Everybody Knows” (“Everybody knows that you’ve been faithful/Ah, give or take a night or two”). He fleshed out a liturgical cadence on “Who by Fire,” sounding grim; on “Famous Blue Raincoat,” an encore, he struck a complicated but familiar chord of contempt, compassion and self-pity.

Mr. Cohen’s backing ensemble, led by the bassist Roscoe Beck, matched these songs to a warm, gauzy glow, muting all textures. If anything the band was too polished, evoking smooth jazz and the more homogenized strains of world music. (It should be noted that the flamenco-tinged flourishes by Javier Mas, on bandurria and laúd, were more palatable than the ardently cloying solos by Dino Soldo, on saxophones.) When most of the group dropped out for an austere “Suzanne,” with Mr. Cohen on acoustic guitar, the effect was salutary: suddenly there was flow in the music, a feeling of breath and fluctuation.

But Mr. Cohen, like anyone else who isn’t João Gilberto, would have struggled to cast that spell over the course of the concert. He needed the band for atmosphere as well as support. And what he got from his backup singers, Sharon Robinson and the Webb Sisters, was abidingly deep: their airy harmonies offset Mr. Cohen’s sepulchral tone.

Ms. Robinson, a longtime collaborator of Mr. Cohen’s, also sang a solo feature, “Boogie Street,” with authority. The Webb Sisters had their own moment, claiming “If It Be Your Will” as an ethereal Celtic ballad, with Hattie Webb on harp and Charley Webb on acoustic guitar. (This week they released an EP on StratArt, “Comes in Twos,” which contains that arrangement.)

That was one of a handful of songs with philosophical overtones, befitting Mr. Cohen’s experience as a Zen Buddhist monk. The strongest in this vein was “Anthem,” which he prefaced with an allusion to troubled times; a joke about his medications (he mentioned a litany of name-brand antidepressants); and a quip about how he tried a course of religious study, but “cheerfulness kept breaking through.” Then came the song, and its chorus:

Ring the bells that still can ring

Forget your perfect offering

There is a crack, a crack in everything

That’s how the light gets in.

Mr. Cohen sang these words with a kind of gracious generosity. Then he introduced everyone onstage, with practiced eloquence. And before dashing into the wings to end the first half he stood for a moment, hat in hand, awash in wild applause.

Leonard Cohen’s Beacon Theater concert will be broadcast at nprmusic.org/music on Thursday. Tickets for his tour go on sale Friday at leonardcohen.com.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-20-2009, 05:30 PM
I have a few questions...how long was his set at Glastonbury last year? It seems as if he plays some LONG sets...I wonder if Coachella would actually do him the honor of giving him a longer set? Maybe

7p to 9p Leonard Cohen then 9:30p to END Paul McCartney?

with Franz and Morrissey on the outdoor...what do you guys think?

PierogiHead
02-21-2009, 08:14 AM
I didn't read through the last few very long posts, but an article I read noted that his tour includes a "very special sunset performance" at Coachella so now you know for sure who has the sunset slot on Friday. My guess is it will be Leonard --> Franz --> Morrissey --> McCartney.

devachan
02-21-2009, 09:03 AM
Thanks AEG/GV for Leonard (x2). :pulse

The ticket info for the l.a. show is up on ticketmaster now. Prices- US $64.00 - US $254.50, Onsale to General Public Start: Mon, 03/09/09 10:00 AM PDT, FAN CLUB PRESALE Start: Sat, 03/07/09 10:00 AM PST
End: Sat, 03/07/09 10:00 PM PST.

PotVsKtl
02-22-2009, 02:14 AM
NjYlQOOMM6U

The fucking solo.

PotVsKtl
02-22-2009, 02:18 AM
Dude's got Marvin Gaye in his keyboard.

PotVsKtl
02-22-2009, 02:19 AM
Wait Isaac Hayes.

PotVsKtl
02-22-2009, 02:19 AM
Doing this multipost bit.

dnbmunke
02-22-2009, 05:04 PM
Thank you for Cohen!

I would love to hear:

The Future

Stories of the Street

Teachers

hancho09
02-25-2009, 03:42 PM
I live in Leonard's hometown of Montreal and I read in the newspaper this morning about his new north american tour and the reporter (Alain De Repentigny of La Presse) says that Cohen's will be the only stage happening during his set. I guess Tollett likes him that much!! And the lineup looks like this (according to this same reporter) on the main stage: Leonard, Franz, Morrissey with Paul closing.

I jump for joy if all that is true, esp if Beirut is on during moz

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-25-2009, 04:31 PM
I live in Leonard's hometown of Montreal and I read in the newspaper this morning about his new north american tour and the reporter (Alain De Repentigny of La Presse) says that Cohen's will be the only stage happening during his set. I guess Tollett likes him that much!! And the lineup looks like this (according to this same reporter) on the main stage: Leonard, Franz, Morrissey with Paul closing.

Friday is going to suck if that is the case. Because All will have wicked short sets. Paul M needs at least 2 hours and Cohen needs 90 mins. That will only work if Morrissey and Frans play the Outdoor..damnit.

LooseAtTheZoo
02-25-2009, 04:44 PM
I didn't read through the last few very long posts, but an article I read noted that his tour includes a "very special sunset performance" at Coachella so now you know for sure who has the sunset slot on Friday. My guess is it will be Leonard --> Franz --> Morrissey --> McCartney.

This lessens my chance of camping at the main. Uggh. They should have Franz play the Outdoor.

Cherita Chen
02-25-2009, 05:14 PM
They should have Franz play the Outdoor.

Absolutely not, Gonshman.

LooseAtTheZoo
02-25-2009, 06:24 PM
Absolutely not, Gonshman.

Why couldn't they close against Paul McCartney. I don't think they share a similar fan base

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-25-2009, 06:57 PM
Franz will play the Outdoor.

Boourns
02-25-2009, 07:22 PM
No, they aren't.

If anyone plays the outdoor, it will be Leonard Cohen doing the Jarvis Cocker thing (main stage shut down for 50-60 minutes).

Cherita Chen
02-26-2009, 03:04 AM
Why couldn't they close against Paul McCartney. I don't think they share a similar fan base

I want to see both The Beatle and Franz, Gonshman. Franz played the main stage last time, they've done nothing to get bumped down like that


Franz will play the Outdoor.

Annoying Member

amyzzz
03-06-2009, 12:56 PM
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE play "Waiting For The Miracle" (also used for the Natural Born Killers soundtrack!) I LOVE that song!!!
Thank you! I was wondering where I'd heard this song before (listening to the youtube now).
I'm finally starting to research the bands, and I'm getting excited for Leonard Cohen. He sounds like a perverted creepy old man strung out on drugs. I like it!

amyzzz
03-06-2009, 01:02 PM
oh shit, most of the youtubes here were already removed. fucking hell.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
03-06-2009, 01:31 PM
I want to see both The Beatle and Franz, Gonshman. Franz played the main stage last time, they've done nothing to get bumped down like that



Annoying Member

FRANZ WILL PLAY OUTDOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

amyzzz
03-06-2009, 01:37 PM
FRANZ WILL PLAY MAIN STAGE. SHUT UP, DAMN YOU!!!!

amyzzz
03-06-2009, 01:37 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ADGZ662
03-06-2009, 02:03 PM
oh shit, most of the youtubes here were already removed. fucking hell.




Well here's one for you
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TeamCoachellaHellYeah
03-06-2009, 02:21 PM
FRNAZ WILL PLAY MAIN STAGE. SHUT UP, DAMN YOU!!!!

lulz...no...

amyzzz
03-06-2009, 03:03 PM
Well here's one for you

ah, you're enabling my retardery. Thank you!

LooseAtTheZoo
03-06-2009, 04:10 PM
FRANZ WILL PLAY OUTDOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

Good to see someone who agrees with me. For the older crowd that Coachella is catering to this year (and they clearly are appealing to old money, at least on Friday) they are going to put all the older, somewhat nostalgia acts in one place.

Ian and Jordan
03-06-2009, 04:30 PM
We saw Cohen here in Australia earlier in the year and it was the best gig I have seen in 15 years. Don't know how long his Coachella set will be but he played for two and a half hours when we saw him. He does pretty much everything you could ever dream of him doing. My review, photos and set list are over at http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/reviews/events/16854/Leonard-Cohen--A-Day-on-the-Green--Leconfield-Winery-Adelaide-260109.htm
Cant wait to see him again

amyzzz
03-06-2009, 04:36 PM
Good to see someone who agrees with me. For the older crowd that Coachella is catering to this year (and they clearly are appealing to old money, at least on Friday) they are going to put all the older, somewhat nostalgia acts in one place.


The singer from Franz is older than I am, and I'm OLD. :)

summerkid
03-06-2009, 04:52 PM
yeah, i'm very thankful about leonard cohen esp. after seeing the prices for his tour. whew have you guys seen that? some seats are as expensive as a coachella 3 day pass.

zenidogx
03-06-2009, 04:55 PM
i have not given my thanks for Leonard Cohen. thank you GV, thank you Paul T, thank you Jesus, thank you India, thank you Alanis Morissette.

Leonard Cohen will be an epic soul melt.

Mordecai
03-06-2009, 05:05 PM
Leonard Cohen will be an epic soul melt.

Perfect description.

humanoid
03-06-2009, 06:24 PM
I just ate an epic tuna melt

Alligator Bogaloo
03-08-2009, 08:56 PM
Fuck Morrissey, Fuck Franz Cohen BETTER be before McCartney

Agreed... Mr. Cohen is going to show all the young whippersnappers how its done.

summerkid
03-19-2009, 12:53 PM
so his live dvd comes out at the end of the month and he has some songs from it on his myspace if anyone is interested.

bohrdoms
03-19-2009, 02:25 PM
Well here's one for you
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that one too, is now taken down.

Is it just me or is YouTube starting to suck? I read they pulled ALL music videos down in Europe. I think their time has passed and the one stop shop for all media nostalgia no longer exists, and we're gonna have to pay tons of different sites to access this stuff going forward.

well Hallelujah for Leonard Cohen, who's time has certainly not passed. ... I read he's in the most accessible period of his career right now (doing a tour and prepping a new album and doing interviews after like a decade a of only 4 concerts and no new releases and scant an interview) cause his manager recently robbed him of everything.

damn shame, but at least it means he's coming out in public.

buddy
03-24-2009, 08:31 PM
anybody heard his live in london album? its up on npr. i was going to see him anyways, but this has me more excited to see him at sunset on the outdoor stage.
here's the link
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102042655

Still-ill
03-24-2009, 10:16 PM
Well here's one for you
Ki9xcDs9jRk&feature=related

Goddam... thanks for that bit of heaven

mfnalaska
03-25-2009, 12:57 AM
Especially for fans of the Coachella adventure, Leonard Cohen is such a perfect fit:

From Chelsea Hotel No.2:

I remember you well in the Chelsea Hotel
you were famous, your heart was a legend.
You told me again you preferred handsome men
but for me you would make an exception.
And clenching your fist for the ones like us
who are oppressed by the figures of beauty,
you fixed yourself, you said, "Well never mind,
we are ugly but we have the music."

Foppie
03-25-2009, 10:57 AM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102042655

Full stream of Live in London.

Enjoy!

amidoingitwrite
03-25-2009, 01:48 PM
For the past 70,000 years, the human population has matured from a scarce and fragile species to complete dominance. We have spread virally and violently, now inhabiting every continent on the planet. Hunted entire species to extinction and used our advanced technologies to demolish any evolutionary competitors. Soon, we are to bring our own planet to its knees. In this gradual infection of the planet, our simple mammalian species has managed to conjure three remarkable schools of thought; religion, philosophy and more recently, science.
Religion is a system of faith or belief, based on supernatural or moral claims of reality, human nature and origin. Science only deals with the natural, which incorporates three of these; reality, human nature and origin. All of which is determined by experiment.
The most popular religions are Abrahamic, with Christianity encompassing 33% of the worlds population, and the rapidly growing Islam; 21%.
Many psychologists, including Freud see religion as neuroticism and a defence to the experience of helplessness and dependency in childhood. Freud even believes God to be a fantasy, an omnipotent replacement of your actual father post-puberty. Since your father was perfectly capable of dealing with the pressures of childhood, but unable – or unwilling, to deal with the new pressures of adulthood.
Other psychiatrists, such as Alfred Adler believed that God (or the idea of God) motivates people to act, and that those actions do have real consequences for us and for others. He believed that our view of God is important because it embodies our goals and directs our social interactions.
However, there are some forms of religion that can act as barrier of the mind, which not only hinder scientific thought, but distort it if they are mixed. This type of religion cannot be unified with science, at least not without one or the other being compromised. Examples of which can be seen in America, where there have been several attempts to undermine the teaching of evolution in public schools with teaching of religious doctrines such as Creation Science and Intelligent Design. This kind of attempt to sabotage children at an early age contradicts the very foundations that the United States was built on. The First Amendment prohibits the United States congress from creating laws “respecting an establishment of religion”.
So what is the purpose of religion? Is it here to teach humans the origins of life, scientific facts and details about where we come from? A few hundred years ago maybe, because we didn't have any answers then, or at least couldn't ask the questions. Now that our knowledge and understanding of nature is greater, we no longer require ancient scriptures to satisfy our curiosity of the world. However, is this religion's sole purpose, to fill the gaps in science? I like to think not; some religions can be a form of comfort, removing the fear of death and teaching and encourage morality. In order to experience all of these advantages however, it is necessary to believe, which is one of the struggles that all religions will face with the modern global interest and knowledge in science.
One of the greatest contrasts in science and religion is it's placement of humans in terms of importance. In most monotheistic religions, we are portrayed as the 'chosen ones', superior to nature and our surroundings, answerable only to God. Science on the other hand, tells us the opposite, that we are in fact a minuscule existence, fragile, huddled in the corner of a vast galaxy, which is equally unimportant compared with the ever expanding universe. Interestingly, both of these encompass a similarity in science and religion, the feeling of awe and wonder.
Many people believe that morality cannot exist without some form of deity, humans are violent and aggressive by nature and one of the benefits of Christianity, in my opinion, is how it can suppress our innate violence and greed with more peaceful teachings. Islam on the other hand does not; it permits the extortion of women as chattel and is easily interpreted to incite violence against non-believers. Most people, inspired by British media disagree to this, viewing Muslims as a cringing minority in need of protection
In the strictest Islamic nations barbaric traditions such as hanging and stoning are enforced. Such an incident occurred in Nigeria in the years 2000 and 2001, where a woman named Amina Lawal was stoned under Sharia law, because she was unmarried yet was found to be pregnant. Stoning is enforced in Afghanistan, Iran, Nigeria, and Pakistan and regularly occurs in Saudi Arabia, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates by religious vigilantes.
It is taught in both Judaism and Islam that you are only permitted to eat meat that has been prepared properly. By this they mean a single cut to the throat, the animal cannot be shocked before hand, which is the method in our society to reduce the pain felt by the animal. There is also an ongoing debate on whether a Muslim is permitted to eat meat prepared by a Jew, since the Jews are portrayed as evil in the Koran.
All of this because of what an illiterate prophet claimed to have heard from an arc angel, which inspired a largely plagiarised version of the new and old testament called the Koran.
But what about when science gets defined as ultimate knowledge? When religion dies and all we are left with is science and atheism. Won't this create peace? Most atheists argue that it will. Anybody that thinks about it rationally however, should find that religion does not cause war. Overpopulation, lack of resources and unstable government cause warfare. Nations built on atheism have not been great examples for the future. In fact, communism in the USSR, which is argued as an atheist society, killed more people in one week than the Crusade ever did.
Furthermore, Nazi eugenics was built mainly by atheist psychiatrists that had invalid and unproven beliefs in genetics.
Interestingly, science cannot disprove God as the creator of the universe, it cannot explain why everything obeys the fundamental laws of Physics, just that it does. Many people inspired by this ask the annoying question, what happened before the big bang? This is in fact self-contradictory, since there cannot be a ‘before’ if there is no time.
Unless the human race is prepared to accept that we are just another ordinary animal on another ordinary planet within billions of ordinary galaxies and be happy with that, then we will never get the gratifying feeling that religion can give us. Or as Alfred Adler put it, “Only when science begins to capture the same religious fervour, and promotes the welfare of all segments of society, will the two be more equal in peoples' eyes.”

amidoingitwrite
03-25-2009, 02:13 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t113/lalocura_2007/pics/1236048780400s.jpg

buddy
03-26-2009, 01:01 PM
video from london show
http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/player/26903006

Xitij
03-30-2009, 02:57 PM
I'm a Cohen noob, the only things I really know about the guy is he wrote Hallelujah (I love the Buckley cover like the rest of the masses), he's considered a great song writer on par with Mr. Dillon, and he's doesn't tour the US very much.

He has a massive catalog and I was wondering if I could get some advice on which albums to check out and in which order.

I looking forward to attending the set but I'm starting to get worried about conflicts.

PersonalJesus28
03-30-2009, 08:48 PM
didnt tollett say he's gonna do a twilight set at the outdoor stage??? ?