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thinnerair
02-07-2008, 10:30 PM
I bet you don't even watch TV.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:30 PM
I bet you aren't even a real boy.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:30 PM
Jennie doesn't.

full on idle
02-07-2008, 10:32 PM
http://www.morrisseydance.com/morrissey-crying.gif

I took this brief clip of Andrew watching Lost.

*sorry in advance for not being funny.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:32 PM
The only thing sadder than being addicted to LOST would be to pretend that I have a tv and I am addicted to LOST.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:33 PM
I took this brief clip of Andrew watching Lost.

*sorry in advance for not being funny.

I'm just glad you got my joke. It was a very complicated and tricky joke. A lotta outs. A lotta ins.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:33 PM
http://www.morrisseydance.com/morrissey-crying.gif

I took this brief clip of Andrew watching Lost.

*sorry in advance for not being funny.

This made me laugh. See, I could tell that was a joke.

Please just never compare me to Morrissey again.

Anyway, back to my theory. The black guy is a cyborg. And Lost is really just an elaborate promo for "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" on Fox.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:35 PM
Andrew, that's stupid. The black guy isn't a cyborg. He's an animatronic pig created only to feel pain and give missions to Naomi that kill her.

thinnerair
02-07-2008, 10:35 PM
I don't have a tv and I'm addicted to Lost. I don't feel sad, I feel glad.

don't worry. i won't judge you.

miscorrections
02-07-2008, 10:35 PM
I will.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:36 PM
Andrew, that's stupid. The black guy isn't a cyborg. He's an animatronic pig created only to feel pain and give missions to Naomi that kill her.

Racist.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:38 PM
Racist.

Hey man, some black people are animatronic pigs. I don't make the rules.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:39 PM
Man, why you gotta hate like that?

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:40 PM
Tessa is going to kick all of our asses for getting off the topic of LOST in this thread.

You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna call it lost. NO CAPITALIZATION. Lost. I watched lost tonight. Take that, lost.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:41 PM
You capitalized Lost immediately after saying you wouldn't. It would have been far more rebellious if you started the one-word sentence with a lower case Lost. You lose.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:42 PM
I didn't capitalize lost. I capitalized the beginning of a proper sentence. You fail for calling me out on a non-call out. Punched twice for flinching.

full on idle
02-07-2008, 10:44 PM
Jennie I cannot hang with you here. It has to be capitalized. It's the right thing to do. Don't start a war.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:44 PM
My point was if you uncapitalized Lost at the beginning of a proper sentence that it would make your point stronger. Like "Boom, fuck you grammar. I am going to lower-case this shit, take that." You know?

thinnerair
02-07-2008, 10:44 PM
Yo. I havent even ever watched your hipster gilligan's island show and Im posting in here.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:45 PM
Jennie I cannot hang with you here. It has to be capitalized. It's the right thing to do. Don't start a war.

This is probably how the Purge or Cleansing or whatever the fuck started on Lost.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:46 PM
Jennie I cannot hang with you here. It has to be capitilized. It's the right thing to do. Don't start a war.

Will you come with me in the spelling of the movie "apaptation." without a .? Like Adaptation? And in the spelling of GAP like gap? Because, if so, I'll leave lost alone.

I also move to call Why? "Why" without a ?. And Yahoo! "yahoo" without a !. People need to learn that symbols are not letters.

full on idle
02-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Yes.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:49 PM
Ok. LOST it is. I love LOST.

bballarl
02-07-2008, 10:50 PM
Someone theorize about the show. Without being racist.

Jenniehoo
02-07-2008, 10:51 PM
Gee, I don't know if I can.

tessalasset
02-08-2008, 09:45 AM
I hate the Hatian.

tessalasset
02-08-2008, 09:45 AM
Damn is that how you spell it?

full on idle
02-08-2008, 09:47 AM
Haitian?

Which one's Haitian?

bballarl
02-08-2008, 02:26 PM
The black one.

Jenniehoo
02-08-2008, 02:27 PM
The Haitian is the creepy, bald one that Andrew thinks is a cyborg. I hate him, too. I think you guys said was on The Wire. Anyway, he's creepy as all hell.

bballarl
02-08-2008, 02:36 PM
AKA the black guy.

full on idle
02-08-2008, 02:45 PM
I didn't gather he was Haitian, I only gathered he was AWESOME.

bliss209
02-11-2008, 10:23 AM
Tessa is going to kick all of our asses for getting off the topic of LOST in this thread.

You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna call it lost. NO CAPITALIZATION. Lost. I watched lost tonight. Take that, lost.


OMG this is the funniest shyt ever!!!

i must be lost.....but i could've sworn this was the "Lost" thread???

PotVsKtl
02-11-2008, 10:41 AM
Go fuck yourself.

andnonewasthewiser
02-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Any theories on who the Haitian/Cyborg/Pig/Guy who used to be on the Wire works for?

psychoc&ndy
02-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Any theories on who the Haitian/Cyborg/Pig/Guy who used to be on the Wire works for?

maybe im totally forgetting something that negates this idea, but do you think he could possibly be the founder of the original dharma project?

andnonewasthewiser
02-11-2008, 01:04 PM
maybe im totally forgetting something that negates this idea, but do you think he could possibly be the founder of the original dharma project?

I do believe that's the word on the street. But then again, that doesn't explain the whole cyborg angle. "I'm jus keyding!"

It would explain why he's after Ben.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 01:20 PM
Because Ben led the project astray when he connected with the god of the island who is INVISIBLE??????????

PotVsKtl
02-11-2008, 01:27 PM
I forgot about that invisible guy. Man, fuck this show.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 01:28 PM
You wish you could quit it.

PotVsKtl
02-11-2008, 01:29 PM
I'll get around to the new season, but not before the stunning conclusion of Project Runway 3.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 01:32 PM
OH MY GOD I hope you're not joking. Christian is my favorite.

PotVsKtl
02-11-2008, 01:35 PM
You're thinking of 4. I'm rolling old school with my man Michael Knight.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 01:38 PM
Oh. What are you doing? Catch up. jesus.

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 01:52 PM
THINGS THIS THREAD IS NOT:

- A Project Runway thread
- an outlet for missplaced anger or racism
- a turkey sandwich

Moving on. Is the animatronic pig old enough to have been one of Dharma's founders? What are you guys basing this on - was he ever in a video or is it just a hunch?

Also - a crossover between Project Runway and LOST would make a lot of people a lot of money.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 02:01 PM
I don't live within your "walls" about "thread topics." I flow loose and I fly free.

Besides, there's nothing fucking happening on the board today. Just trying to start convos where I can find them.

I think the Dharma reel was from the 80s (I mean, it was a reel of film, not a cassette, right?) and so he could be old enough to have been part of it, but he didn't appear on the films.

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 02:07 PM
Oh, see, I thought it was the 70s. This show is taking too long my memory is already giving out on it. I can't even remember what I had for lunch yesterday.

Then AGAIN, if he WAS a cyborg, he wouldn't age.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 02:09 PM
It could have been the 70s, I'm unsure. Ben was like 6 or 7 when he went with his dad there, right? And the project was new then? How old do you think Ben is? What did you have for lunch today?

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 02:14 PM
This is an old picture, but this is exactly what I had for lunch today - with a snack pack:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/Jenniehoo/Picture.jpg

I would guess Ben's in his late 30s early 40s?

kreutz2112
02-11-2008, 02:15 PM
Tell me those are sweet pickles.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 02:15 PM
You put the apples in the sandwich touching the pickles? I have to go.

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 02:16 PM
No way, dude. Garlic dill.

OK so if the animatronic pig was the head of the project he would be in his...50s? 60s?

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 02:20 PM
Apples and/or sweet potato chips on a sandwich are delicious.

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 02:20 PM
Dammit. This isn't the first time I've cleared a room with my eating habits.

kreutz2112
02-11-2008, 02:24 PM
I like putting doritos on tuna fish sandwiches. Also, what kind of turkey is that?

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 02:26 PM
It's cajun turkey from the grocery store deli. Basically it's just like spicy turkey. Really good. And pesto. It's a flavor explosion.

full on idle
02-11-2008, 02:28 PM
I can't look at this thread until it switches pages. I can't imagine the pickles touching the apples. It makes me want to wash my hands. I love pickles and I love apples but I'll be god damned if they're going to touch eachother, even in my imagination.

kreutz2112
02-11-2008, 02:34 PM
See, I could see myself eating that sandwich if the pickles were sweet, but I dont know about garlic dill. I would still try it though. Cajun turkey is GRAND, I used to be all about honey turkey, but now I either get oven roasted or cajun.

BEST MEAT PRODUCER:

http://savasliquors.com/BoarsHeadLOGO.jpg

Young blood
02-11-2008, 02:43 PM
OMG THAT SANDWICH LOOKS FANTASTIC.

My subway sammich

sweet onion chicken Terriyaki
lettuce
tomato
banana peppers
no teriyaki sauce
southwest chipolte
spicy mustard
and a bag of doritos mashed in.

I thought it twas weird when the guy said that the light scatters weird on the island. Do you think they couldn't see it from the helicopter? Thats why they parachuted in. Why the fuck was Frank the pilot all cut up but the helicopter was okay?

PotVsKtl
02-11-2008, 02:49 PM
Who the fuck puts apples in a sandwich? You are banned from food preparation for a month.

andnonewasthewiser
02-11-2008, 03:14 PM
OMG THAT SANDWICH LOOKS FANTASTIC.
I thought it twas weird when the guy said that the light scatters weird on the island. Do you think they couldn't see it from the helicopter? Thats why they parachuted in. Why the fuck was Frank the pilot all cut up but the helicopter was okay?

Yeah, I thought that was odd too. Maybe it's a clue into the nature of the island. I've heard crazy stuff from people saying the island is under water. Maybe it is and the "light scattering" is simply the water bending the light.

Dang, I think I just nerd "outted" myself.

Also, Doritos in a Tuna Sandwich = Delicious!

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 05:17 PM
Boar's Head is exactly the type of meat I was talking about - I didn't know if it was only something Publix carried. Awesome.

kreutz2112
02-11-2008, 05:20 PM
Boars Head meat is worth its weight in gold.

bballarl
02-11-2008, 05:31 PM
No way, dude. Garlic dill.

OK so if the animatronic pig was the head of the project he would be in his...50s? 60s?

You are forgetting that cyborgs don't age.

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 05:35 PM
HE IS NOT A CYBORG. I'm going to have to run you over with my car.

bballarl
02-11-2008, 05:39 PM
Good luck. I am a cyborg and it won't hurt me. Don't think I can't recognize another cyborg when I see one.

tessalasset
02-11-2008, 06:29 PM
Boar's Head is exactly the type of meat I was talking about - I didn't know if it was only something Publix carried. Awesome.

If you didn't go to such ghetto Ralphs' you'd know that the delis offer Boars Head for all your sandwich requirements.



You are forgetting that cyborgs don't age.and don't forget, he wouldn't be the first character on the show who doesn't age.


Valarie, we called him the Haitian cause he vaguely resembles a character from Heroes. Pretty much they're just both quiet, tall, bald, and very dark skinned. They're probably not even from the same continent though.

Jenniehoo
02-11-2008, 09:59 PM
I learned everything I need to learn about life in that ghetto Ralph's. Like old men can work there and still be alcoholics. And the change that gets poured into the Coinstar machine typically has pubes in it. These are lessons that are important to me.

TESSA - what do you have on the Haitian? Are you in the camp that thinks he's a founder of Dharma? And who does Ben "have" on the freighter? Who could possibly still be his ally after 30 something years on the island?

breakjaw
02-11-2008, 11:53 PM
My theory (and forgive me if someone already has posted this) is they are after Ben,because he is a brilliant physicist who has finally discovered a wormhole into another plane of reality,one where the plane crashed on the island,instead of into the sea.Thus,when everyone goes back to the real world,they are all discombulated and feel that it's not right,because they are,in fact at the bottom of the ocean.This is also why the physicist is along for the ride to find Ben.

EDIT
I see Jennihoo already beat me to this idea.But I'm sticking with it,because i hope it's true.it'll be the most interesting if they do it this way.

tessalasset
02-12-2008, 10:02 AM
I don't think he's the HEAD head. I think he either has something to do with Dharma or Oceanic. More Oceanic than Dharma, I think.

My friend at work came up with this one - she thinks Ben's mole is the chick he shot. He knew she had a bullet proof vest on so he shot her in the stomach instead of the head. And he did that to make the Losties keep believing that he thinks they're all bad people. My friend said more but I think that was kind of the gist of it.

caco0283
02-12-2008, 04:03 PM
I hate the Hatian.


Haitian?

Which one's Haitian?


The black one.

this is just wrong...for one he's not Haitian....Haitians are really ugly...not just ugly cos hes black black....but reealllllyyy ugly. I'm guessing he's from Africa


Then Sweet P.

i hate sweet p...her stupid expressions piss me off....i just scream at the tv "GROW UP YOU STUPID WOMAN"

bliss209
02-12-2008, 04:16 PM
I don't think he's the HEAD head. I think he either has something to do with Dharma or Oceanic. More Oceanic than Dharma, I think.

My friend at work came up with this one - she thinks Ben's mole is the chick he shot. He knew she had a bullet proof vest on so he shot her in the stomach instead of the head. And he did that to make the Losties keep believing that he thinks they're all bad people. My friend said more but I think that was kind of the gist of it.


My thoughts EXACTLY! it was all a front when he shot her. Ben is losing ground all over the place, so he's gonna do what can to keep everyone focused on what HE wants everyone to see and think. I think this is the ONLY man I have see that could con a con!

Matthew (the scary African American) is definitely NOT the head of it "all", but he is possibly the "link" for us to understand this "other" element to the whole show. I knew there had to be another "department" or other "agency" that is involved here that we have never even heard of yet and he MUST be linked to this.

Ok I have to admit.....i read some spoilers!! AND OMG!! WOW!!
After reading them, i HAVE to see this show to the very end (if there is ever make it)

bliss209
02-12-2008, 04:25 PM
I think the Dharma reel was from the 80s (I mean, it was a reel of film, not a cassette, right?) and so he could be old enough to have been part of it, but he didn't appear on the films.

Was Matthew in a Dharma film?? Which one??

Jenniehoo
02-12-2008, 04:50 PM
My friend at work came up with this one - she thinks Ben's mole is the chick he shot. He knew she had a bullet proof vest on so he shot her in the stomach instead of the head. And he did that to make the Losties keep believing that he thinks they're all bad people. My friend said more but I think that was kind of the gist of it.

This is really sharp - I think it's a great theory.

And bliss I know your quote - it's from my favorite Cake song.

bballarl
02-12-2008, 09:43 PM
Was Matthew in a Dharma film?? Which one??

What site do you read spoilers from?

breakjaw
02-13-2008, 01:31 AM
Actors on the show.My list from the best to the worst (of those currently on the show,including recurring guest stars):

Terry O'Quinn ... John Locke (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
Michael Emerson ... Ben Linus / ... (37 episodes, 2006-2008)
Elizabeth Mitchell ... Juliet Burke (30 episodes, 2006-2008)
Robin Weigert ... Rachel (2 episodes, 2007)
Harold Perrineau ... Michael Dawson (55 episodes, 2004-2008)
Dominic Monaghan ... Charlie Pace (70 episodes, 2004-2008)
Matthew Fox ... Jack Shephard (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
John Terry ... Dr. Christian Shephard (10 episodes, 2004-2008)
Jeremy Davies ... Daniel Faraday (3 episodes, 2008)
Jorge Garcia ... Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
Ken Leung ... Miles (3 episodes, 2008)
Yunjin Kim ... Sun Kwon (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
Josh Holloway ... James 'Sawyer' Ford (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
Naveen Andrews ... Sayid Jarrah (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
Henry Ian Cusick ... Desmond Hume (34 episodes, 2005-2008)
Nestor Carbonell (creepy Others Guy) ...Richard Alpert (7 eps,2007)
Evangeline Lilly ... Kate Austen (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
Daniel Dae Kim ... Jin Kwon (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
William Mapother ... Ethan Rom (9 episodes, 2004-2007)
Lance Reddick...Matthew Abaddon(Haitian?) / ... (2 episodes, 2008)
Sam Anderson ... Bernard Nadler (12 episodes, 2005-2008)
Emilie de Ravin ... Claire Littleton (77 episodes, 2004-2008)
Malcolm David Kelley ... Walt Lloyd (29 episodes, 2004-2007)
Madison ... Vincent the Dog (25 episodes, 2004-2008)
Mira Furlan ... Danielle Rousseau (16 episodes, 2004-2008)
The Black Smoke Thing .... as itself
Andrew Divoff ... Mikhail Bakunin (7 episodes, 2006-2007)
Tania Raymonde ... Alex (13 episodes, 2006-2008)
L. Scott Caldwell ... Rose Henderson (13 episodes, 2004-2008)
Marsha Thomason ... Naomi Dorrit / ... (9 episodes, 2007-2008)
Rebecca Mader ... Charlotte / ... (3 episodes, 2008)

EDIT Updated with some additions,incl Walt

ghettojournalist
02-13-2008, 01:45 AM
where's Walt?

ghettojournalist
02-13-2008, 01:50 AM
OH MY GOD I hope you're not joking. Christian is my favorite.

"i'm a beast you guys. you don't even know!"

breakjaw
02-13-2008, 01:55 AM
where's Walt?
Ooops,my bad.After Claire before Vincent.And that creepy guy who recruited Juliet is after Desmond before Kate.And Juliet's sister is right after Juliet because she is so fucking great on Deadwood.And the Haitian is up there too for being so kickass on the Wire.

bliss209
02-13-2008, 06:36 AM
And bliss I know your quote - it's from my favorite Cake song.

I luv Cake....and John is sooo hot!!!

bliss209
02-13-2008, 06:48 AM
What site do you read spoilers from?

I actually have to read a variety of them to get an idea of what it all means. All of the sites are reporting from what they read in a "loose" script. But since Lost writes sooo many decoy scripts its kinda hard to trust one source. But the tailsection.com and spoilerslost.blogspot.com are good along with lost.forum.com and lostpedia.com works pretty well. And they normally dont give every single detail, but after watching flashforwards and reading a few spoilers, you kinda end up putting all the pieces together. Especially now since they will all be flashforwards!!
I dont play any of the lost games, but finding easter eggs and devling into symbolisim and the relations of everyone is my obsession.

alex97
02-13-2008, 05:52 PM
I don't think he's the HEAD head. I think he either has something to do with Dharma or Oceanic. More Oceanic than Dharma, I think.

My friend at work came up with this one - she thinks Ben's mole is the chick he shot. He knew she had a bullet proof vest on so he shot her in the stomach instead of the head. And he did that to make the Losties keep believing that he thinks they're all bad people. My friend said more but I think that was kind of the gist of it.

Does your friend have any ideas about Mr Widmore? Penelope's father.. where does he fit in all of this? i'm sure he's important to the story somehow.. and e has something to do with the search party..

also.. has anyone figured out who are the rest of the oceanic six??

tessalasset
02-13-2008, 06:20 PM
There are spoilers who say who the other three are so if you have read those PLEASE DO NOT POST HERE.

alex, a few pages back we have a bunch of guesses as to who the other three are.

i haven't thought about widmore in a long time, actually. how odd. i wonder how much of an influence he's really gonna have on the story in the long run.

alex97
02-13-2008, 07:31 PM
There are spoilers who say who the other three are so if you have read those PLEASE DO NOT POST HERE.

alex, a few pages back we have a bunch of guesses as to who the other three are.

i haven't thought about widmore in a long time, actually. how odd. i wonder how much of an influence he's really gonna have on the story in the long run.

nah i've been spoiler free for a while.. i just love to theorize..

two of the six are the ones we already know since season 3's last episode.. the third one i know from this season's first episode.

and what about the 4 toe statue.. got any theories on that?

bliss209
02-13-2008, 08:42 PM
Does your friend have any ideas about Mr Widmore? Penelope's father.. where does he fit in all of this? i'm sure he's important to the story somehow.. and e has something to do with the search party..

Since Naomi landed on the island it has been a huge speculation that Mr. Widmore is secretly following Penelope's search with out her knowing. Especially since Naomi had a picture of Penelope and Desmond.

OMG!!! (just came to me while typing this) What if Mr. Widmore, Thomas Mittlework and Matthew are working together???

Who would Mr. Widmore be going after? He's not too fond of Desmond. Or why would Mr. Widmore need to get out there?? It is strange how Mr. Widmore relates to the island as it is. Henry Gale crashed on the island in a hot air ballon that read Widmore Corporation and the pregnancy tests and a few other supplies have the Widmore Corporation name on them as well. And I do remember seeing a few ads in the background of some of the flashbacks too for Widmore Corporation.

or maybe Mr. Widmore has some stake in The Hanso Foundation and is out to get Ben because they know he is responsible for the purge and killing all of his people.We already know that Alvar Hanso is out to get Thomas Mittlework for holding him hostage and controling the Foundation.

Wow....im really going off on this one. I dont know what come over me...... SOME ONE STOP ME!! :)

and FYI - I would NEVER post spoilers publicly 'cause that just rude. Which is also why i did not link the sites i listed in case someone accidentally clicked on the link.

wmgaretjax
02-13-2008, 08:58 PM
I just finished 3X01. I like the latest twist with the beginning of the 3rd season, because I was getting bored with a lot of the unexplained stuff so far. This show is pretty good, it just doesn't seem to have any clue of where it's going with everything. I heard they set a finish date? Is it all gonna be wrapped up in the 4th season? Or will there be a 5th?

alex97
02-13-2008, 09:15 PM
Since Naomi landed on the island it has been a huge speculation that Mr. Widmore is secretly following Penelope's search with out her knowing. Especially since Naomi had a picture of Penelope and Desmond.

OMG!!! (just came to me while typing this) What if Mr. Widmore, Thomas Mittlework and Matthew are working together???

you got some good theories going on there Bliss.. and about Naomi and the pic, that is why i brought up Mr Widmore..

Looking forward to tomorrow night.. Sounds kinda lame but that's what my boyfriend and i are doing for valentine's, LOST and dinner, we're pretty hooked on the show.

tessalasset
02-13-2008, 11:01 PM
I heard they set a finish date? Is it all gonna be wrapped up in the 4th season? Or will there be a 5th?

6th season will be the last.



Bliss....you're taking a lot of your stuff from the ARG from a couple years ago. Are you sure we're supposed to incorporate that stuff into the show? I know the ARG this time around does, but last time, we didn't see any of that Hanso backstory on the actual show. I'm not sure how much we can rely on that info.

bliss209
02-14-2008, 06:58 AM
Bliss....you're taking a lot of your stuff from the ARG from a couple years ago. Are you sure we're supposed to incorporate that stuff into the show? I know the ARG this time around does, but last time, we didn't see any of that Hanso backstory on the actual show. I'm not sure how much we can rely on that info.


Yeah..... im still holding on to alot of that info, beacuse I have a feeling it may still apply. Not all of it, but some of it. It may just close up the loose ends of things not fully explained since they dont have enough time. Just like Rachel , she was just a characture to invite us deeper into the story. We know she's not a part of the show, especially since showed up at ComicCon (whch was sooo funny).

Take Mittlework for example, we definately may never ever see him, but we could hear his name mentioned. Just like Alvar Hanso,we will never see him on the show, but he has been talked about on the show. Or Joop.... we would never see him on the show, but knowing about him helps us understand the activities conducted on the island.

Carlton (writer of the ARG) has stated in his podcasts in the past about how the ARG's help you understand and see a wider "vision" of the story line that the show cant touch, but then he also states its a "parallel" story too. So I dont know.

And since we really wont ever find out too much about Hanso Foundation in the show, because its all about the Dharma Inititive, I believe that is why they focused so much on the Foundation in the ARG from the begining. To help us understand where Dharma came from.

And of course I was just letting my mind run wild........ which is sooo much fun with this show!!! And ya never know!!! hehehe

Young blood
02-14-2008, 11:08 AM
Tonights eps. will be the best one so far.........I hope.

Jenniehoo
02-14-2008, 11:11 AM
OR ELSE.

Young blood
02-14-2008, 11:19 AM
please don't hit me, again.

Sexecutioner
02-14-2008, 11:34 AM
wow bliss, you are hardcore. so maybe you can answer this...what i always wonder is whats up with that chick that hurley liked, the one that got shot and died. why the hell was she in the mental institute with hurley? that was never answered, was it?

anyway, looking forward to tonights episode, but i wont be able to watch it till tuesday, since im leaving on a snowboard trip this afternoon. peace out suckas.

Young blood
02-14-2008, 11:35 AM
Lost is back! Oh, wait, that happened two weeks ago.

What I mean is, Lost will be back-back, after the strike. And even better, we've just checked in with inside sources, and we have dates! Yes, dates! So, break out your calendars, 'cause we're hearing this is the approved plan:

The last episode of the current pod (episode seven) will air Mar. 13. Then the show will be off the air for six weeks and return Apr. 24 at 9 p.m.

(That Apr. 24 episode will be the already-completed episode eight, which was filmed prestrike, but which apparently works much better as a minipremiere than it does as a minifinale.)

Anyhoo, the following week, on Thurs., May 1, a little show called Grey's Anatomy returns to its usual 9 p.m. time slot, so Lost will move to 10 p.m., where it will stay for the rest of the season.

"Yippee" just doesn't do it justice, does it?

To find out what this all means for the season-four story, I checked in with my personal Jesus, Damon Lindelof, who explains how his writing team plans to squish the eight episodes of plot they had planned into only five more episodes.

"We are going to execute our full story plan for season four," D.L. says. "This simply requires a shift from high-octane storytelling to superhigh-octane storytelling. It requires no cramming, only a slightly heavier foot on the gas pedal...so, hold on to your hats.

Blinken
02-14-2008, 11:41 AM
Why the fuck was **** censored

Blinken
02-14-2008, 11:41 AM
p.i.n.g

Young blood
02-14-2008, 11:43 AM
lol ur silly.

BeHereNOW
02-14-2008, 11:51 AM
Those of you waiting for the long-anticipated Jin and Hurley ****-Pong tournament, however, will be very disappointed."


why you have to be like that?
-_-


just kidding

Young blood
02-14-2008, 11:52 AM
be like what? doh is that a spoiler?

EDIT!

tessalasset
02-14-2008, 01:06 PM
Yeah..... im still holding on to alot of that info, beacuse I have a feeling it may still apply. Not all of it, but some of it. It may just close up the loose ends of things not fully explained since they dont have enough time. Just like Rachel , she was just a characture to invite us deeper into the story. We know she's not a part of the show, especially since showed up at ComicCon (whch was sooo funny).

Take Mittlework for example, we definately may never ever see him, but we could hear his name mentioned. Just like Alvar Hanso,we will never see him on the show, but he has been talked about on the show. Or Joop.... we would never see him on the show, but knowing about him helps us understand the activities conducted on the island.

Carlton (writer of the ARG) has stated in his podcasts in the past about how the ARG's help you understand and see a wider "vision" of the story line that the show cant touch, but then he also states its a "parallel" story too. So I dont know.

And since we really wont ever find out too much about Hanso Foundation in the show, because its all about the Dharma Inititive, I believe that is why they focused so much on the Foundation in the ARG from the begining. To help us understand where Dharma came from.

And of course I was just letting my mind run wild........ which is sooo much fun with this show!!! And ya never know!!! hehehe

yeah, its cool to have that background info as an obsessed lost fan, but i don't think it's fair to use it for theories since the average lost fan does not have that info in front of him every week. like carlton said, i think its just random info to make the show more meaningful for us obsessives, but i don't think it will actually change any course of the actual tv show.

full on idle
02-14-2008, 01:43 PM
"i'm a beast you guys. you don't even know!"

YES

bliss209
02-14-2008, 02:00 PM
wow bliss, you are hardcore. so maybe you can answer this...what i always wonder is whats up with that chick that hurley liked, the one that got shot and died. why the hell was she in the mental institute with hurley? that was never answered, was it?


Nah....not that hardcore.......but for my brain to fully wrap around anything, I need to understand the full spectrum of things. Which is why I delve so deep into speculation. And all of my speculation comes from canonical sources. So I read... ALOT. Trust me , if I could be a "professional student" , I would be.

I think Libby (Elizabeth) was just another example of the 6 degrees of separation of everyone on the island or another element to support Desmond and Hurley's story. She was only present in one season(Season 2), died the same season and her full background wasn't ever explained or shown to us. And she also gave Desmond the boat he crashed on the island with. And the two of them never crossed paths while on the island before she died.

But I do have a feeling that that is not that last time we will hear or see anything about her. It is kinda odd that so much is missing from her background. She is considered a main character and the speculation of her having had 3 husbands is still canonical in the story line.

Young blood
02-14-2008, 02:08 PM
"waltsguardian" lol.

I think "yung23" has it pegged.

alex97
02-14-2008, 03:53 PM
But I do have a feeling that that is not that last time we will hear or see anything about her. It is kinda odd that so much is missing from her background. She is considered a main character and the speculation of her having had 3 husbands is still canonical in the story line.

haha i got "that feeling" too lol.. yes there is a lot to know from miss libby.. i hope.

roberto73
02-14-2008, 09:27 PM
I miss the Locke of Season 1. Batshit Jesus Locke just isn't doing it for me.

bballarl
02-14-2008, 09:36 PM
I use to feel bad for Locke because his dad didn't love him. Now I understand why.

bliss209
02-14-2008, 09:37 PM
hhhmmmm???!!! Minkowski possibly Ben's "man" on the boat? "number 5......HE'S ALIVE!!!"

and a nice one with the with Daniel trying to get a lock on the "rocket" being sent from the boat. Here we go with the time variance speculations!!!

Hurley - "awesome, they send us a new Saywer" HAHAHAHA

oh wow........

bballarl
02-14-2008, 09:50 PM
Oh man, Sayid is bad ass. BAD ASS.

bballarl
02-14-2008, 10:01 PM
Oh my God. What. WHAT!

bliss209
02-14-2008, 10:10 PM
YES!!! that was awesome!! Sayhid is Ben's hitman! SWEET:)

Why am I now thinking as if Ben is not exactly as bad as I think he is??? Does it seem as if he actually MIGHT have a good reason for doing what he is doing or it could be the crack i'm smoking..... i dunno.

psychoc&ndy
02-14-2008, 10:21 PM
YES!!! that was awesome!! Sayhid is Ben's hitman! SWEET:)

Why am I now thinking as if Ben is not exactly as bad as I think he is??? Does it seem as if he actually MIGHT have a good reason for doing what he is doing or it could be the crack i'm smoking..... i dunno.

exactly my thoughts at the last two minutes of the episode. who do you think that girl's boss was that sayid was after?

bballarl
02-15-2008, 12:18 AM
Ted Turner.

tessalasset
02-15-2008, 12:27 AM
this is insane.

alex97
02-15-2008, 12:34 AM
exactly my thoughts at the last two minutes of the episode. who do you think that girl's boss was that sayid was after?

yup me too.. wow i love Ben!

captncrzy
02-15-2008, 07:19 AM
I think the boss is Penelope's dad...his name escapes me.

Man, I did NOT see that ending coming. I thought he was working for Penelope's dad, not Ben.

invisiblerobots
02-15-2008, 07:28 AM
I think the boss is Penelope's dad...his name escapes me.

That would be Charles Widmore.

Young blood
02-15-2008, 09:03 AM
The 31 min. has me confused.

BeHereNOW
02-15-2008, 09:20 AM
anyone remeber the last episode o the past season when Jack finds a display in the newspaper about a funeral and he attended and the room was all alone?

who was that? anyone knows? got to be someone who got back rescued from the island because he mentioned that to Kate when he met her by the airport in the night that he expected her to be there... i know that it is not nayomi because Jack find out about this death when he was already back from the island....

after yesterdays show i think it could be sayid... i also think i could be just mad

tessalasset
02-15-2008, 10:12 AM
The 31 min. has me confused.


how bout you be a little less specific there.

captncrzy
02-15-2008, 10:32 AM
I think he's talking about the time differential between when the little rocket was supposed to hit the island and actually did. I think the difference was 31 minutes.

Young blood
02-15-2008, 10:33 AM
how bout you be a little less specific there.

The rocket. 31 min time difference in hitting the island. When launched from the freighter. Daniel's experiment.

Is it because the island is ahead real time by 31 min and there for able to predict things or correct outcomes in the world before they happen?

Or 31 min behind and able to avoid the outcome?

captncrzy
02-15-2008, 10:36 AM
I still think it's Locke or Ben in the coffin at the end. Maybe Sayid kills Ben or something and Jack is crying because he regrets leaving the island in the first place. Like he should have listened to him.

tessalasset
02-15-2008, 11:44 AM
The rocket. 31 min time difference in hitting the island. When launched from the freighter. Daniel's experiment.

Is it because the island is ahead real time by 31 min and there for able to predict things or correct outcomes in the world before they happen?

Or 31 min behind and able to avoid the outcome?

oh shit that's trippy. and awesome. i totally missed that. i didn't understand what was up with the two different times on the clocks. WOW. wow.




last season i thought it was michael in the coffin. kate said "why would i go to the funeral?" with such a scowl on her face - cause michael severely backstabbed all of them. and i think it messed jack up so much because at that point, jack wanted to get back to the island SO badly, and michael was the only one who had the coordinates to go back. when he died, he took them with him.

but now i don't know. seems like a ton of peeps are getting off the island and know how to get back on.

i'm not that psyched with sayid being one of the oceanic six, to tell you the truth. this severely cuts down the possibilities for the final two.

BeHereNOW
02-15-2008, 12:01 PM
oh shit that's trippy. and awesome. i totally missed that.

cierto, eso es un viajeson!

i didn't gave that much importance to the 31 min experiment.... nice

alex97
02-15-2008, 08:14 PM
whoever is in the coffin is someone with a son.. that's why i had michael in mind.. though right now, it could be ALMOST anyone (anyone who's got a kid, that is)...

BeHereNOW
02-15-2008, 08:50 PM
with a son? hmm....

its been a while since last appeareance of michael... how can he be linked to this?? -_- theory?


dunno.... i think jack regrets he didn't listen to Locke in that ep... who knows....

tessalasset
02-16-2008, 12:23 AM
can someone post here the newspaper article that someone was able to actually read? cause ive read that whole "he was survived by his teenage son" bit and i think people are just making up the translation.

tessalasset
02-16-2008, 12:23 AM
aka im a total lost skeptic.

alex97
02-16-2008, 11:25 AM
with a son? hmm....

its been a while since last appeareance of michael... how can he be linked to this?? -_- theory?


dunno.... i think jack regrets he didn't listen to Locke in that ep... who knows....

i heard he's coming back to the show.. heard that when season 3 ended, that been so long ago i can't quite remember where.. the piece of newspaper read that the person left a son or something like that.. i'll look into it and post the link for ya..

needless to say, i'm not so sure about michael coming back, although, since walt will keep appearing.. who knows..

tessalasset
02-16-2008, 12:34 PM
oh michael's gotta come back. his shit aint through.

alex97
02-16-2008, 12:50 PM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/polly0315/Article_small.jpg
this is all i could find right now, this one doesn't specify the "survived by his son" thing, but, i'll keep looking ok...

sddoctor
02-16-2008, 02:20 PM
i'm really enjoying this thread....I just finished the last two episodes...great stuff. Sayid and Ben! I don't know where this is going, but it's been a great season so far.

BeHereNOW
02-16-2008, 03:30 PM
is there a link where i can go and see these last new episodes online?

full on idle
02-16-2008, 04:47 PM
abc.com

Just watched the last one. This show is officially fucking retarded. Nothing ever fucking progresses. First week - group divided! Mystery newcomers! Second week - group divided! Mystery newcomers! Third Week - Group divided flashback flashforward! Fourth week - fourth fucking week and they finally do something with that helicopter. Meanwhile, everyone's settled back down into complacency about leaving. Jack doesn't get on the fucking helicopter after he basically champions the effort to go there?

I don't want to read the internet to find out what is going on. I just want to see it on the show. Over it. BYE BYE LOST. End of story.

alex97
02-17-2008, 12:05 PM
abc.com

Just watched the last one. This show is officially fucking retarded. Nothing ever fucking progresses.

:nono

fun is in the details.

why would you want it to be over so soon?
hello! foreplay! :rolleyes

full on idle
02-17-2008, 12:39 PM
yeah yeah. I know.

alex97
02-17-2008, 12:40 PM
i think we might be seeing mr widmore soon..

http://www.docarzt.com/lost-spoilers/lost-spoilers-press-release-fo.php

click on the link ONLY if you don't mind some spoilers.

although, perhaps you already knew this

**************************************************

Also.. about jack's newspaper..

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2007/05/newspaper-through-looking-glass.html

although i was going for jeremy bentham, instead of john lantham, cause that would fit in the whole philosophy related thing they got going on.. (locke, rousseau, david hume, mikhail bakunin)

alex97
02-17-2008, 12:49 PM
yeah yeah. I know.

:thu

bliss209
02-17-2008, 03:03 PM
I still think it's Locke or Ben in the coffin at the end. Maybe Sayid kills Ben or something and Jack is crying because he regrets leaving the island in the first place. Like he should have listened to him.

I have always felt as if it was Locke that was in the coffin. This has always been Jack's opposite in the show, in a way his rival. The one who has ALWAYS gone against him in the show. But yet they both almost possess a mirror reflection of each other. One is a man of faith, one is a man of fact. And now I'm beginning to feel as if it could be Locke OR Ben in the coffin.
There is one specific person that has been referenced in the flash forwards as to "the one we should have listened to" by Jack and also acknowledged by Kate. And considering who Jack goes against all the time now on the island, has to be the person he is referring to.
After the new flash forward twist with Sayhid, it could be Ben.

tessalasset
02-17-2008, 03:11 PM
Valarie you've seen four episodes this season??? I've only seen three.

full on idle
02-17-2008, 04:04 PM
Yes. I have seen a secret, fourth episode that only members of the Oceanic Fanatic internet club had access to (if you typed the pw in on the secret site).

(The pw was a decrypted set of numbers found on specific Dharma candybar bar codes).

bballarl
02-17-2008, 04:28 PM
That was creative.

tessalasset
02-17-2008, 06:58 PM
Damn I should check my Apollo bar and see if it has a code.

ghettojournalist
02-18-2008, 09:42 PM
yay! i had to work Thurs. so i just barely watched the last episode. Sayid!!! and finally, a confirmation on the time situation on the island! (done exclamations now). can't wait for the new ep.

i don't know if this has been mentioned here, but Widmore Industries owns The Maxwell Group. the fellow that announced the Oceanic crash findings works for TMG, but passed as an Oceanic representative. (this comes from the last ARG which has been considered canon). there is a theory that Penny's father is helping to orchestrate the findings to make his daughter get over Desmond. the ARG focused on someone trying to find their loved one fromt he flight and one of the clues for the new season is a phone number to contact Penny.

chairmenmeow47
02-20-2008, 11:41 AM
i haven't read through the whole thread, but i came to this part of the message board just to find the LOST thread.

WHY DID THE PICTURE FRAMES CHANGE IN THE GHOST HUNTER EPISODE?!?!?

can't wait for tomorrow :)

*edit*

ok, i'm caught up on the thread!

i want to know what the deal with kate is. so far, we know jack and sayyid get off the island. we have now seen flash forwards where they seem to have some desire to get back to the island, or in sayyid's case, are forced to still care about the island.

in the preview for tomorrow's episode, they show a flash of kate looking famous and kind of unhappy. in last season's finale, we also see that she seems to want to cut ties with the island.

why?

if sawyer doesn't make it off, it makes you wonder why she wouldn't care that he's still on the island. and even if he does, you'd think she'd care about sun, claire or the baby or something.

so here are some of my thoughts on the oceanic 6. we know so far that the following people get off the island (not necessarily the oceanic 6)

1. jack
2. kate
3. hurley
4. sayyid
5. ben (not on oceanic 6)
6. walt (at least they seem to make it to the ocean)
7. michael (at least they seem to make it to the ocean)

i think it's also safe to assume that the following people would have the best chance of getting off:

1. aaron
2. claire
3. walt (if he came back)
3. sun (if she stays, she dies, if she leaves, she might lose the baby though)

i think we also have to consider the possibility that people may make it off the island without being part of the oceanic 6. like ben for example. ben has always seemed to have a way off the island, so more people may get off without being publicized.

so based on all that, here's my guess as to who is the oceanic 6:

1. jack
2. kate
3. hurley
4. sayyid
5. aaron
6. sun

for some reason i always keep sun in mind because she is a major korean actress who was put on this show for more exposure.

anyways, that's my two cents :)

captncrzy
02-20-2008, 12:42 PM
I didn't notice a picture frame change thing...can you please explain further?

oooduga
02-20-2008, 12:57 PM
i haven't read through the whole thread, but i came to this part of the message board just to find the LOST thread.

WHY DID THE PICTURE FRAMES CHANGE IN THE GHOST HUNTER EPISODE?!?!?

can't wait for tomorrow :)

*edit*

ok, i'm caught up on the thread!

i want to know what the deal with kate is. so far, we know jack and sayyid get off the island. we have now seen flash forwards where they seem to have some desire to get back to the island, or in sayyid's case, are forced to still care about the island.

in the preview for tomorrow's episode, they show a flash of kate looking famous and kind of unhappy. in last season's finale, we also see that she seems to want to cut ties with the island.

why?

if sawyer doesn't make it off, it makes you wonder why she wouldn't care that he's still on the island. and even if he does, you'd think she'd care about sun, claire or the baby or something.

so here are some of my thoughts on the oceanic 6. we know so far that the following people get off the island (not necessarily the oceanic 6)

1. jack
2. kate
3. hurley
4. sayyid
5. ben (not on oceanic 6)
6. walt (at least they seem to make it to the ocean)
7. michael (at least they seem to make it to the ocean)

i think it's also safe to assume that the following people would have the best chance of getting off:

1. aaron
2. claire
3. walt (if he came back)
3. sun (if she stays, she dies, if she leaves, she might lose the baby though)

i think we also have to consider the possibility that people may make it off the island without being part of the oceanic 6. like ben for example. ben has always seemed to have a way off the island, so more people may get off without being publicized.

so based on all that, here's my guess as to who is the oceanic 6:

1. jack
2. kate
3. hurley
4. sayyid
5. aaron
6. sun

for some reason i always keep sun in mind because she is a major korean actress who was put on this show for more exposure.

anyways, that's my two cents :)

prob just a continuity error

chairmenmeow47
02-20-2008, 01:16 PM
4815162342 thread on the frames (http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45564)

it just seems odd that they made such a point to show these pictures several times, and then they get something wrong. i remember watching live and thinking something didn't look "right" about the pictures, but i wasn't aware they were different frames until i saw the thread. it may just be a goof, but wasn't there something similar with desmond's shirt in the desmond/penny picture too?

oooduga
02-20-2008, 01:33 PM
at first I thought the boy in the picture was walt

Young blood
02-20-2008, 01:44 PM
I think Desmond skewed the future slightly when he turned the key.

bliss209
02-20-2008, 01:56 PM
i haven't read through the whole thread, but i came to this part of the message board just to find the LOST thread.

WHY DID THE PICTURE FRAMES CHANGE IN THE GHOST HUNTER EPISODE?!?!?

Whoa... did NOT catch that one.nice :)



i want to know what the deal with kate is. so far, we know jack and sayyid get off the island. we have now seen flash forwards where they seem to have some desire to get back to the island, or in sayyid's case, are forced to still care about the island.

in the preview for tomorrow's episode, they show a flash of kate looking famous and kind of unhappy. in last season's finale, we also see that she seems to want to cut ties with the island.

why?
well, we also know that Kate gets off the island too from "Through The Looking Glass". Kate's position on wanting to get off the island is pretty visible especially since the last few episodes. But tomorrow's episode is gonna REALLY bring a different light to Kate and its gonna be GOOD!!!! SO get ready to look at Kate in a whole new light. You will also kinda understand why she wants to cut her ties with the island as well :)



if sawyer doesn't make it off, it makes you wonder why she wouldn't care that he's still on the island. and even if he does, you'd think she'd care about sun, claire or the baby or something.
I think Sawyer makes it off the island even though he may NOT want to go.


so here are some of my thoughts on the oceanic 6. we know so far that the following people get off the island (not necessarily the oceanic 6)

1. jack
2. kate
3. hurley
4. sayyid
5. ben (not on oceanic 6)
6. walt (at least they seem to make it to the ocean)
7. michael (at least they seem to make it to the ocean)

i think it's also safe to assume that the following people would have the best chance of getting off:

1. aaron
2. claire
3. walt (if he came back)
3. sun (if she stays, she dies, if she leaves, she might lose the baby though)

i think we also have to consider the possibility that people may make it off the island without being part of the oceanic 6. like ben for example. ben has always seemed to have a way off the island, so more people may get off without being publicized.

so based on all that, here's my guess as to who is the oceanic 6:

1. jack
2. kate
3. hurley
4. sayyid
5. aaron
6. sun

for some reason i always keep sun in mind because she is a major korean actress who was put on this show for more exposure.

anyways, that's my two cents :)

I think the Oceanic 6 is gonna be a specific group of people from the island who are significant in a way that has nothing to do with actually getting off the island. There's gotta be another specific incident that is going to take place that will lable them as the Oceanic 6. I think theres waaaaay more than just 6 people who get off the island, so I am still unclear as to WHAT the Oceanic 6 represents.

NicoDread
02-20-2008, 02:03 PM
at first I thought the boy in the picture was walt

just cause he's black? racist.

atom heart
02-20-2008, 02:05 PM
The more I watch this the show the more often I have WTF moments.
What I want to know is why Sayid would ever work for Ben. His comment about selling his soul seems to come true off of the island. Also, he looks gross with slicked back hair.

I'm not terribly nitpicky about little continuity errors. Continuity errors keep all of the more crazy Losties occupied, for all we know they made the pictures different for that reason.

oooduga
02-20-2008, 02:25 PM
just cause he's black? racist.

I am also black. I thought this because at first glance the boy did look like walt and also walt made it off the island...as far as we know. In the future you should know what you are talking about before throwing around such accusations.

Young blood
02-20-2008, 02:31 PM
Im mocha.

Please dont ruin lost thread on racism.

caco0283
02-20-2008, 03:34 PM
[QUOTE=oooduga;473886]I am also black.QUOTE]


holyshit

caco0283
02-20-2008, 03:35 PM
I am also black.

holyshit

PotVsKtl
02-20-2008, 03:36 PM
I think it's about time to hang up the expectation that everything (anything) is going to end up making any sense.

caco0283
02-20-2008, 03:38 PM
I think it's about time to hang up the expectation that everything (anything) is going to end up making any sense.


i was going to make a black comment but decided to let you know i was going to but didnt

tessalasset
02-20-2008, 11:41 PM
You will also kinda understand why she wants to cut her ties with the island as well :)

careful with the spoilers there



I think the Oceanic 6 is gonna be a specific group of people from the island who are significant in a way that has nothing to do with actually getting off the island. There's gotta be another specific incident that is going to take place that will lable them as the Oceanic 6. I think theres waaaaay more than just 6 people who get off the island, so I am still unclear as to WHAT the Oceanic 6 represents.

whoa this is an AWESOME theory and i really hope it's not a spoiler you read somewhere cause i didnt even think about this. i love this possibility.

NicoDread
02-21-2008, 12:09 AM
I am also black. I thought this because at first glance the boy did look like walt and also walt made it off the island...as far as we know. In the future you should know what you are talking about before throwing around such accusations.

Sorry, but i didn't think it looked like Walt at all, and I've heard lots of discussion that tries to link the boy in the picture with any black character that has been on the show, and it bothers me a little.

caco0283
02-21-2008, 07:08 PM
did she say what i think she said....sorry but i dont want to spoil anything for my west coast friends...but i need to know if she said at the end what i think she said. i keep rewinding it and it sounds like she said what i think she said but it doesnt sound like it

alex97
02-21-2008, 07:26 PM
did she say what i think she said....sorry but i dont want to spoil anything for my west coast friends...but i need to know if she said at the end what i think she said. i keep rewinding it and it sounds like she said what i think she said but it doesnt sound like it

OH PLEASE DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hold that thought.. see you in 2.5 hours :o

Young blood
02-21-2008, 08:07 PM
did she say what i think she said....sorry but i dont want to spoil anything for my west coast friends...but i need to know if she said at the end what i think she said. i keep rewinding it and it sounds like she said what i think she said but it doesnt sound like it

HOLY SHIT SHE SAID IT! ITS A TV A SHOW BUT IM P S Y C H E D! They didnt even give that part away in the spoilers I read.

THIS IS GETTIN WILD AND I CANT WAIT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ALL TOMORROW.

captncrzy
02-21-2008, 08:09 PM
Yep, she said it.

Jesus, I never can see 'em coming. I definately didn't see that one.

Sexecutioner
02-21-2008, 08:11 PM
oh man, you guys are getting me excited.

captncrzy
02-21-2008, 08:14 PM
I can't wait to talk about this tomorrow.....especially about a number that was said that isn't coinciding with another number. Now I'm super confused.

Young blood
02-21-2008, 08:20 PM
I gots lots to talk about concerning time lines.

captncrzy
02-21-2008, 08:22 PM
Yeah, I'm confused about the "when" of this Kate story myself.

Young blood
02-21-2008, 08:27 PM
I have questions with the 31min 18 sec of the rocket and time periods and memory tests i.e. 3 cards. I have theories of the Kate and others.

bballarl
02-21-2008, 09:40 PM
Patsy Cline. Boom.

wmgaretjax
02-21-2008, 11:01 PM
that episode was stupid.

bballarl
02-21-2008, 11:02 PM
Agreed. Except for Patsy Cline.

wmgaretjax
02-21-2008, 11:07 PM
Agreed. Except for Patsy Cline.

You know... I didn't listen to Patsy Cline (knowingly) until last year. I dig her.

roberto73
02-21-2008, 11:16 PM
that episode was stupid.

Maybe if they had spoken Romanian with Cantonese subtitles it would have been more to your liking.

oh*my*buddha
02-21-2008, 11:23 PM
Also, he looks gross with slicked back hair.

WRONG! I was creaming my pants during that entire episode.

wmgaretjax
02-21-2008, 11:35 PM
Maybe if they had spoken Romanian with Cantonese subtitles it would have been more to your liking.

no.

tessalasset
02-22-2008, 12:17 AM
i actually have to credit Lost for getting me into patsy cline. i love her.

i think claire was about to die or did die and kate had to take aaron. claire must have been one of the 8 who survived the crash but one of the two that didnt survive the island, according to jack. FUCKED UP.i cant believe thats what they're telling people. so is aaron considered one of the oceanic 6 then?

BeHereNOW
02-22-2008, 08:14 AM
whats with that Jack not wanting to relate to baby-kate ?

i didn't catch the name until i read it here... damn! aaron?
i went to sleep last night thinking that it was Sawyer's and so because of that Jack was not into relating kate and the baby.... = $

Young blood
02-22-2008, 08:15 AM
I still don't believe its real. The flash forwards. I think its an interpretation of someones thoughts or future. The Daniel experiments are going along way to prove this.

I think thats why he was so adamant on the helicopter staying on course. I love the physics used behind this show.

I have posted this youtube in other threads but I think it has alot to do with the show.
qU1fixMAObI

Also the memory tests, with the three red playing cards. Dosent the military employ those types of test in hyperbolic chambers.

EDIT:I love that VALIS is being utilized so deeply. I think this is the reason that the FF are not as real as the seem. The usage of Philip K. Dicks novel is now undeniable.

BeHereNOW
02-22-2008, 08:22 AM
whats the goal of these hyperbolic tests you mentioned?

Young blood
02-22-2008, 08:33 AM
I dont know exactly. The tests confuse the shit out of me. I want to know more about the island than the actual plot of the characters. It could be that Daniel has short term memory loss. Thats why he was crying in his living room and didn't know why. Maybe they are testing the islands time reversal/healing properties

chairmenmeow47
02-22-2008, 08:36 AM
i actually have to credit Lost for getting me into patsy cline. i love her.

i think claire was about to die or did die and kate had to take aaron. claire must have been one of the 8 who survived the crash but one of the two that didnt survive the island, according to jack. FUCKED UP.i cant believe thats what they're telling people. so is aaron considered one of the oceanic 6 then?

yes, he's one of the oceanic 6. they had said they'd reveal another person last night, so that must be aaron.

whatever is going on, i think this "future" is bad. there have been many signs. hurley can't handle it, jack can't handle it, and now aaron is seperated from claire (which was against the psychic's recommendations, right?).

i'm very mad that someone spoiled last night for me. it wasn't on this board, but NO SPOILERS PEOPLE!!!

BeHereNOW
02-22-2008, 08:46 AM
so now we know hurley,jack,kate,sayid,aaron are out of there... 1/6 missing?

captncrzy
02-22-2008, 10:42 AM
whatever is going on, i think this "future" is bad. there have been many signs. hurley can't handle it, jack can't handle it, and now aaron is seperated from claire (which was against the psychic's recommendations, right?).


HOLY SHIT I forgot about the psychic from the first season-"don't let anyone else raise your baby, Claire."

I wonder who the "eight survivors" are?

NicoDread
02-22-2008, 11:10 AM
Maybe Claire was one of the "eight survivors" and that's Kate's story for having Aaron?

chairmenmeow47
02-22-2008, 11:20 AM
Maybe Claire was one of the "eight survivors" and that's Kate's story for having Aaron?

that's a good theory, but if that were the case, then why did kate's mom seem so set on wanting to see her grandson? if it wasn't kate's baby, she probably wouldn't care so much.

i want to know why jack can't see aaron. i wonder if he fucks over claire somehow.

Sexecutioner
02-22-2008, 11:32 AM
yea, it seems like claire either died, or is still on the island. and kate either inherited the kid to take care of him, or somehow stole him cuz she always wanted one. i too wonder why jack cant handle seeing him.

shit is getting weird. seems like the island is in some kind of time warp, and there is a small door in and out, and if you miss that door, you jump to a different spot in time. like the test that dude did with the payload, and how the helicopter hasnt got to the boat yet. they probably didnt take the exact path like he told them too, so they will arrive to the boat later than they should have. looks like we find out what happened to the helicopter in the next one though.

TomAz
02-22-2008, 12:16 PM
this should be in the 'stuff white people like' thread.

captncrzy
02-22-2008, 12:27 PM
That time warp thing would also explain why Desmond couldn't sail off the island.

Also, I wonder if it has something to do with Jack and Claire being brother and sister that has him so freaked out.

And, when Kate says in Through the Looking Glass-"I gotta get back, he'll be wonderin' where I am". I wonder if she means Aaron?

BeHereNOW
02-22-2008, 12:29 PM
so in the last episode of last season Jack was all fucked up trying to go back to the island... and yesterdays he seems fine about being back home,,, zup with that?

BeHereNOW
02-22-2008, 12:34 PM
Also, I wonder if it has something to do with Jack and Claire being brother and sister that has him so freaked out.


how could I forget that.... so obvious...
of course is in denial about that.

chairmenmeow47
02-22-2008, 12:41 PM
so in the last episode of last season Jack was all fucked up trying to go back to the island... and yesterdays he seems fine about being back home,,, zup with that?

because the flash forward from last season seems to happen after the flash forwards we have been watching. like when he sees hurley and talks about wanting to grow a beard. something must happen to make him so upset.

and i forgot about the jack/claire connection. i wonder if jack finds out somehow? you'd think that if claire was his sister, he'd really want to be there for the kid though, unless he fucks claire over somehow.

BeHereNOW
02-22-2008, 12:51 PM
the progress of the show is so slow =$
questions>progress

BeHereNOW
02-22-2008, 12:57 PM
oh and the chinese guy asking Ben for $3,2M usd, so lack of originality/mystery

they could've make something better to link Ben with them

Young blood
02-22-2008, 12:59 PM
I dont get the 3.2 million part. Why that amount?

bliss209
02-22-2008, 01:08 PM
careful with the spoilers there
NO SPOILERS! I swear
actually that was the ONLY fact that i read about that episode in an article in TV guide.....the article offered nothing more than that. and ANYONE could have read that.


whoa this is an AWESOME theory and i really hope it's not a spoiler you read somewhere cause i didn't even think about this. i love this possibility.

NO SPOILERS!! I swear (again)
I know i have mentioned in the past that I HAVE read spoilers and have gained info via postings and a few websites, but i will repeat again.... i would NEVER post that info publicly(especially on here). I completely understand why you post here and would never infringe upon that. Even with reading a spoiler, you still cannot be guaranteed that is exactly what is going to happen. Like I said before, there are waaaaay too many "loose scripts" that you can never tell what is going to happen or which one to believe.

Once I heard the phrase "Oceanic 6" , i was really curious as to why they would choose that. Since there is more than 6 people who survived the flight and are on the island that want to get off the island, then the "Oceanic 6" has to mean more than just getting off the island. And after last nights episode, we definitely know that the phrase "Oceanic 6" means a whole lot more than just being the 6 that get off the island.

bliss209
02-22-2008, 01:17 PM
WRONG! I was creaming my pants during that entire episode.

i dunno what to think about that one... he kinda looks ok, but then again, I dunno. Maybe im not used to it

bliss209
02-22-2008, 01:27 PM
i actually have to credit Lost for getting me into patsy cline. i love her.

i think claire was about to die or did die and kate had to take aaron. claire must have been one of the 8 who survived the crash but one of the two that didnt survive the island, according to jack. FUCKED UP.i cant believe thats what they're telling people. so is aaron considered one of the oceanic 6 then?

TOTALLY FUCKED UP!!! and whatever it is, this is what makes them the "Oceanic 6". and I do think Aaron is one of the 6.

And someone on this thread mentioned a few post back about the first season when the psychic told Claire about not letting anyone else raise her son....... i COMPLETELY forgot about that!! thank you!!

Maybe Kate and the other "5" actually took Aaron from Claire and its not because Claire died or something. There is a HUGE cover up and I cannot wait to find out what happened!!

bliss209
02-22-2008, 01:28 PM
how could I forget that.... so obvious...
of course is in denial about that.

im thinkin the same thing

tessalasset
02-22-2008, 03:01 PM
i am just hanging on to the thought that the six are being severely blackmailed in the real world and are doing everything theyre doing because they HAVE to for the safety of the others on the island. i refuse to believe they've turned bad.

what i don't get, tho, is that out of all of them, it seems like kate so far has been the most opposed to lying to everyone. so i don't understand how she can lie so effortlessly to everyone about "her son" to the point where her mother thinks she actually has a grandson. how is she able to seamlessly lie about that, but it's killing her inside to lie about the rest of the cover-up?

either that, or kate actually did have a baby, and named it after aaron. but i doubt that.

chairmenmeow47
02-22-2008, 04:08 PM
i am just hanging on to the thought that the six are being severely blackmailed in the real world and are doing everything theyre doing because they HAVE to for the safety of the others on the island. i refuse to believe they've turned bad.

what i don't get, tho, is that out of all of them, it seems like kate so far has been the most opposed to lying to everyone. so i don't understand how she can lie so effortlessly to everyone about "her son" to the point where her mother thinks she actually has a grandson. how is she able to seamlessly lie about that, but it's killing her inside to lie about the rest of the cover-up?

either that, or kate actually did have a baby, and named it after aaron. but i doubt that.

i don't think they've turned bad either. and we've only seen one episode of her really with the baby, so i don't think it's safe to assume she's ok with the lie. it's probably easy to lie to her mother since her mother has been kinda worthless. plus, kate acts kind of juvenille with her and i bet she's using "her baby" as a way to make her mother feel even more guilty for being such a bitch.

it seems like kate will probably feel very protective of aaron since she has been given this responsibility. it makes you wonder if aaron has any special capabilities like walt to where he would need to be protected (from others and himself).

so what did happen with claire? did jack fuck her over and leave claire on the island and now he can't look at the baby? or did some sort of horrible split-second accident happen where kate just HAD to take the baby, but they still feel guilty?

and why is the oceanic 6 story told the way it is? why must they say there were 8 and then 6? is it that it would be more believable that some might have survived the crash, but died on the island? or do they have to cover up something we're not aware of yet?

i also don't think she's had a baby and named it aaron. that would just be really strange. but still, it makes you wonder how they explain aaron's age. kate was a fugative and was not 8 months pregnant on the plane. who knows when they are "rescued" though. they could have been on the island for a long time, and jack could be the perceived father since what else are you going to do on a deserted island with matthew fox =P of course, obviously time makes absolutely no sense in lostland, so who knows =P

alex97
02-22-2008, 05:46 PM
I can't wait to talk about this tomorrow.....especially about a number that was said that isn't coinciding with another number. Now I'm super confused.

what number?


I dont get the 3.2 million part. Why that amount?

why not 3.1 or 3.3 (or 3.4)?

ahh ben rules! :pulse

Sexecutioner
02-22-2008, 05:58 PM
and why is the oceanic 6 story told the way it is? why must they say there were 8 and then 6? is it that it would be more believable that some might have survived the crash, but died on the island? or do they have to cover up something we're not aware of yet?

when did they say 8?

captncrzy
02-23-2008, 05:19 PM
Jack said "there were 8 survivors" on the stand....

fikus222
02-23-2008, 05:42 PM
Jack said "there were 8 survivors" on the stand....

There were 8 who made it to the island, where 2 died, leaving the 6 survivors.

I think either Claire is one of those 2 and Aaron is Kate's adopted son or they are saying that Kate got pregnant before her capture by the FBI and that Aaron is her biological son.

I think a huge and overlooked question is whose Funeral did the Bearded Jack attend? Was it Michael's?

tessalasset
02-23-2008, 05:47 PM
or they are saying that Kate got pregnant before her capture by the FBI and that Aaron is her biological son.

I think a huge and overlooked question is whose Funeral did the Bearded Jack attend? Was it Michael's?

i don't think that is physically possible. she would have had some sort of physical signs that she was pregnant by that time. they've been on the island for like 4 months already.

the funeral question is not overlooked. that's one of the biggest questions out there. that is the new "whats in the hatch?" question.

fikus222
02-23-2008, 07:29 PM
What I am saying is how did the 6 account for the baby..the story that they told, not that I believe that Kate actually gave birth.

The story: The FBI agent was by himself so Kate could have been 4 months pregnant when captured, then spent some time on the island and then there was a length of time that passed once back in America and then court, all of which could account for Aaron's current age.

Would Kate be given custody of Aaron if they didn't present him as her biological son? I think not.

fikus222
02-23-2008, 07:35 PM
the funeral question is not overlooked. that's one of the biggest questions out there. that is the new "whats in the hatch?" question.

What a compelling argument.

breakjaw
02-23-2008, 07:46 PM
Ben is such a great actor.Capable of extreme nuance with every syllable.I think he is the major reason I'm still hooked on this show...

tessalasset
02-23-2008, 07:59 PM
The story: The FBI agent was by himself so Kate could have been 4 months pregnant when captured, then spent some time on the island and then there was a length of time that passed once back in America and then court, all of which could account for Aaron's current age.


ohhh ok i see. that could make sense for sure.





What a compelling argument.


what do you mean?

fikus222
02-23-2008, 08:28 PM
what do you mean?

I was being testy...what I meant was what are the prevailing theories?

Jack says he was neither friend nor family and yet he emotionally places his hand on the coffin. Kate is very adamant about her dislike for this person. So I think that this might mean that this could possibly be Michael's funeral ?

tessalasset
02-23-2008, 08:52 PM
Oh. I was saying it's not an overlooked topic because it's been talked about a lot. We've talked about it in this thread. Michael, specifically. Lemme go find links...

Starts on page 17 of this thread:
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=210751&postcount=482)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=210943&postcount=492)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211305&postcount=512)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211305&postcount=512)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=467708&postcount=883)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=468267&postcount=885)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=468432&postcount=887)


PS I'm not retarded and I don't expect you to have actually read through this entire thead, but just sayin... it's out there. People have discussed the Michael aspect a lot. We just talked about that a week ago, even.

breakjaw
02-23-2008, 08:53 PM
The baby is Aaron.Claire's baby.Jack's nephew.If it is not clear from the fact that she calls him Aaron,and earlier they set up the scene whe she does not want to hold Aaron on the beach,it should be clear because it's the big dramatic moment right before the word LOST appears,ala Sayid being Ben's hitman last show.
EDIT
oops,sorry,I just now re-read the top of the page.Your question isn't whether it's Kate's baby,it's how she explains that it's her baby.my bad.

fikus222
02-24-2008, 10:11 PM
Starts on page 17 of this thread:
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=210751&postcount=482)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=210943&postcount=492)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211305&postcount=512)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211305&postcount=512)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=467708&postcount=883)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=468267&postcount=885)
here (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=468432&postcount=887)



Thanks for the heads up, I was unaware that any info could be gleaned from the funeral newspaper clipping.

tessalasset
02-24-2008, 11:00 PM
Yeah supposedly someone transcribed the whole thing but I don't know how accurate it is.

fikus222
02-25-2008, 09:33 AM
That Anthropologist lady really bugs...I don't trust her one bit.

chairmenmeow47
02-26-2008, 11:57 AM
i guess i've pretty much given up on figuring out who's in the coffin because recently we haven't been given any information that would obviously relate to who's in the coffin. i try to focus on what they are telling us and try to figure out what happens from there. lost is way too weird to try to speculate without all the information they are going to give us, lol.

tessalasset
02-26-2008, 12:28 PM
I concur.

BeHereNOW
02-26-2008, 10:49 PM
That Anthropologist lady really bugs...I don't trust her one bit.


well i dont trust this thread one bit

anthropologist>this thread

bballarl
02-26-2008, 10:54 PM
That would be sick if Matisyahu was one of the Oceanic 6.

fikus222
02-26-2008, 11:02 PM
well i dont trust this thread one bit

anthropologist>this thread

Ah come on, after all I've done to earn your trust?

BeHereNOW
02-27-2008, 06:40 AM
fikus222>anthropologist>this thread

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chairmenmeow47
02-27-2008, 08:24 AM
i watched eggtown again last night. i remembered how disappointed i was that it started with locke's eye opening in bed. i totally got excited thinking it was a locke episode, we need one of those!!!

tessalasset
02-27-2008, 09:58 AM
which ep was that? i dont know the titles anymore. and im too busy/lazy too look it up right now.

chairmenmeow47
02-27-2008, 10:47 AM
which ep was that? i dont know the titles anymore. and im too busy/lazy too look it up right now.

sorry, last week's episode :)

BeHereNOW
02-27-2008, 11:24 AM
mr Eko shows where my favs... and Jacks

chairmenmeow47
02-27-2008, 11:46 AM
mr Eko shows where my favs... and Jacks

I MISS MR EKO!!! he was the shit.

andnonewasthewiser
02-27-2008, 11:56 AM
I knew it was going to be Aaron as soon as she objected to the lawyer bringing him to court.

You could kind of see that coming after a while. There's someone on here who predicted he'd be one of the Oceanic 6. Good call!

tessalasset
02-27-2008, 01:24 PM
I actually never liked Eko that much.

NicoDread
02-27-2008, 04:13 PM
You could kind of see that coming after a while. There's someone on here who predicted he'd be one of the Oceanic 6. Good call!

I don't think Aaron is one of the "6."

bballarl
02-27-2008, 04:25 PM
I actually never liked Eko that much.

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andnonewasthewiser
02-27-2008, 04:26 PM
I don't think Aaron is one of the "6."

I thought the same thing at first, but I think someone on the thread mentioned that the commercials for the episodes made mention of a new member of the 6 being revealed.

chairmenmeow47
02-27-2008, 04:26 PM
I don't think Aaron is one of the "6."

that's a good point. the lie to the world about the oceanic 6 would have to include that aaron was born on the island, so technically he wasn't on the flight. i guess we'll have to wait and find out!!!!

*edit* but yeah, the episode says another will be revealed. OH LOST, WHY DO YOU MESS WITH OUR MINDS?!?!

fikus222
02-27-2008, 05:10 PM
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Its called a Jump to Conclusions Mat, its a real time saver...

NicoDread
02-27-2008, 06:08 PM
I can't trust the previews, too many times I have heard "6 of the biggest mysteries will be revealed" and we get like half of an answer to why Jack has tattoos. Just for some reason I can't see Aaron as one of the 6.

tessalasset
02-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Its called a Jump to Conclusions Mat, its a real time saver...

actually he's right. i am racist.




ivy, i think he *technically* is one of the six since he technically was on the plane. like...literally was. i don't know how much that counts.

tessalasset
02-28-2008, 12:26 AM
i like that this thread almost has 1000 replies.

chairmenmeow47
02-28-2008, 08:24 AM
actually he's right. i am racist.




ivy, i think he *technically* is one of the six since he technically was on the plane. like...literally was. i don't know how much that counts.

well, he would only count as technically being on the plane if the lie they tell the public includes that either claire delivered the baby on the island and kate had to take it or if the excuse is that kate was already pregnant, but not showing on the flight.

personally, i have a theory that jack is being passed off as the father. that the lie would say they conceived on the island, but that something happened and they are no longer together. cause when they asked jack if he was in love on the stand, he said "no, not anymore" in a way that made me think the general public would know that he would have at one time been in love with kate.

that's just an off-the-wall theory, but it seems like it would be difficult to have kate pregnant on the plane and it seems unlikely that the lie includes kate taking the baby from claire.

tessalasset
02-28-2008, 11:07 AM
oooh i like your theory.

BeHereNOW
02-28-2008, 12:13 PM
getting kate pregnant in the plane... now, that's a good ep
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bartelby
02-28-2008, 06:36 PM
this is just the coolest fucking show ever

thestripe
02-28-2008, 07:05 PM
Lost is in classic form tonight. Enjoy Tessa.

TonyWonder
02-28-2008, 07:10 PM
WOW! That was great. This season is spectacular.

Tylerdurden31
02-28-2008, 07:24 PM
that was pretty awesome...but i'm back to being convinced that the writers have no real plan

fikus222
02-28-2008, 07:41 PM
They have a plan, to extend this series for another 3 seasons.

BeHereNOW
02-28-2008, 08:08 PM
because.... because you have to find ME Desmond!

wow that was just plain awesome....
we can forget about who was that in the coffin and aaron for a while

sddoctor
02-28-2008, 08:09 PM
Tonight was a great episode, so many more possibilities and questions.Anybody catch the subtle reference to Hanso? Black Rock?

BeHereNOW
02-28-2008, 08:12 PM
i got the post #1000 of this thread = D

Young blood
02-28-2008, 08:21 PM
M-Theroy.
Ontological Paradox/Grandfather paradox.
The reset button/the numbers.

I swear Daniel said grandfather paradox.

THE ISLAND HAS TO BE IN THE FITH DIMENSION!