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Quadromarshia
09-04-2008, 05:36 AM
Every so often I'll think about how America would react to McCain winning the election. I've come up with a few thoughts ranging from plausable to fantasy; almost like a "choose your own ending" book. And here's a few I've thought of (going from least violent to most violent):

-Massive protests
-Riots
-Guerrilla activity/Indigenous terrorism/Assasination
-Revolution/Civil War/Secession

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not some kind of warmonger or firebrand, but I've also thought of the most plausable response, and that seems even more frightening to me.

-The American public rolls over and does nothing; takes it like a bitch. Stews in malcontent for the next 4-8 years.

So what do you think Americans would do? What are your own plans?

PassiveTheory
09-04-2008, 05:48 AM
Ever think they might react with apathy? Apathy and disappointment?

Because, as long as they don't take away our fast food, our fast cars, and our sleazy women, that's going to be the reaction.

Apathy.

Quadromarshia
09-04-2008, 05:54 AM
My step-dad is from England, and he hates politics- American or otherwise. But everytime he hears it on tv or hears my mom talking about it, he's always like "wow, it's about time for a revolution. i don't understand why you americans don't do anything about it".

PassiveTheory
09-04-2008, 05:55 AM
I don't know... Maybe because most of us are fat, white and well off enough to not give a crap about the state of the country?

Young Blood's Sister
09-04-2008, 06:01 AM
i'm going to put peanut butter on mah vah jay jay

gaypalmsprings
09-04-2008, 06:19 AM
No riots. The reaction will be every teenage girl wanting to get pregnant, a surge in the popularity of hockey, and the return of the bun hair style.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 06:37 AM
No riots. The reaction will be every teenage girl wanting to get pregnant, a surge in the popularity of hockey, and the return of the bun hair style.

so a return of the 50's?

Ardentbiscuit
09-04-2008, 06:37 AM
If McCain gets elected it will just prove how uneducated and simple the majority of America is and I will be planning my move to another country...

It's sad when I go to Pemberton and the first thing every Canadian said to me when they found out I was American, "We can't wait for Bush to leave and hopefully your country won't elect McCain..."

gaypalmsprings
09-04-2008, 06:38 AM
so a return of the 50's?

ha. yeah. the 50s.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 06:39 AM
If McCain gets elected it will just prove how uneducated and simple the majority of America is and I will be planning my move to another country...

It's sad when I go to Pemberton and the first thing every Canadian said to me when they found out I was American, "We can't wait for Bush to leave and hopefully your country won't elect McCain..."

it isn't just Canadians who say that....

TomAz
09-04-2008, 06:40 AM
The best kind of democracy is a democracy in which my candidate always wins. Where, by a free and fair vote of the people, I get my way.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 06:41 AM
The best kind of democracy is a democracy in which my candidate always wins. Where, by a free and fair vote of the people, I get my way.

I thought that was the Republican way?

Quadromarshia
09-04-2008, 06:46 AM
I've been kicking around the idea of moving to Canada if McCain got elected. But I really don't see any point to it. It's not like daily life would change; it would be on principal if anything.

sikiboy
09-04-2008, 07:00 AM
it isn't just Canadians who say that....

Mexicans say that too...

marooko
09-04-2008, 07:00 AM
Every so often I'll think about how America would react to McCain winning the election. I've come up with a few thoughts ranging from plausable to fantasy; almost like a "choose your own ending" book. And here's a few I've thought of (going from least violent to most violent):

-Massive protests
-Riots
-Guerrilla activity/Indigenous terrorism/Assasination
-Revolution/Civil War/Secession

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not some kind of warmonger or firebrand, but I've also thought of the most plausable response, and that seems even more frightening to me.

-The American public rolls over and does nothing; takes it like a bitch. Stews in malcontent for the next 4-8 years.

So what do you think Americans would do? What are your own plans?

so if americans are gonna be reacting like this if mccain wins, what country is gonna be voting for him?

roberto73
09-04-2008, 07:04 AM
If McCain gets elected it will just prove how uneducated and simple the majority of America is

I thought reelecting Bush already proved this beyond the shadow of a doubt. A McCain election will just reinforce the obvious.

faxman75
09-04-2008, 07:14 AM
Ever think they might react with apathy? Apathy and disappointment?

Because, as long as they don't take away our fast food, our fast cars, and our sleazy women, that's going to be the reaction.

Apathy.

Yep, most americans don't even take part in the process of voting anyway. They don't see the president as someone who has an affect on their daily life. As long as people get to keep having the things you mentioned Passive, people don't give a shit.

JustSteve
09-04-2008, 07:20 AM
when a president can still win office even without the popular vote then why would anyone feel an urge to get up and make a choice?

Quadromarshia
09-04-2008, 07:21 AM
Yep, most americans don't even take part in the process of voting anyway. They don't see the president as someone who has an affect on their daily life. As long as people get to keep having the things you mentioned Passive, people don't give a shit.

I think we don't give ourselves enough credit though. There might be an intellectual minoritiy, but it's certainly not a small one. I suppose half the country is content with what we've got and the course were on, and the other half are cynical intellectuals that bitch but never change anything. We want things to change but any initative is usually half assed.

I think it's a part of our culture of fear that nobody wants to really talk about doing anything because that sort of talk can land you on GW's ''black list''.

TomAz
09-04-2008, 07:21 AM
I'm still pissed my mom took my pacifier when I was 3.

fatbastard
09-04-2008, 07:24 AM
1/2 the country can't speak english.

sames44
09-04-2008, 07:27 AM
I thought reelecting Bush already proved this beyond the shadow of a doubt. A McCain election will just reinforce the obvious.

So true. Completely depressing, but so true.

captncrzy
09-04-2008, 07:30 AM
I always seem to agree with Roberto.

The fact is, we've been living with this for the last eight years; if McCain gets elected, it's just more of the same stuff. Nothing will change. If you're not moving to Canada now, why would you have to after the election?

SFChrissy
09-04-2008, 07:41 AM
This morning my co-workers and I were having morning discussions 'bout whatever and 4 out of my 7 office mates are voting for mccain...

that's truely dissappointing!!!

TomAz
09-04-2008, 07:42 AM
1/2 the country can't speak english.


that's truely dissappointing!!!

...

captncrzy
09-04-2008, 07:42 AM
The dummies that sit around me are all voting for McCain. No surprise though.

God, now they are talking about how much they like the Palin whore. "she's tough and honest"... I may have to leave.

All That I Am
09-04-2008, 08:07 AM
http://www.thewe.cc/thewe_/images_5/_/palestine_/youth_runs.jpe

TomAz
09-04-2008, 08:18 AM
The dummies that sit around me are all voting for McCain. No surprise though.

God, now they are talking about how much they like the Palin whore. "she's tough and honest"... I may have to leave.

none of those people were going to vote for Obama anyway. don't worry about it.

SFChrissy
09-04-2008, 08:28 AM
...We all know my spelling is for crap what does that have to do with speaking english??? It's not like i speak spanish, vietnamese, chinese or russian and dont know what the fuck your saying...


The dummies that sit around me are all voting for McCain. No surprise though.

God, now they are talking about how much they like the Palin whore. "she's tough and honest"... I may have to leave.
Same here!!! And they all mention their fears about obama and how his american citizenship is questionable, his relations with bill ayers and him not wanting to visit wounded soldiers in germany because he couldn't bring his camera crew...

frozen pilgrim
09-04-2008, 09:11 AM
if mccain wins, defectors party at my house :P

canexplain
09-04-2008, 10:12 AM
if mccain wins, defectors party at my house :P

i am there .... i have been wrong almost my entire life on how politics would go each election ... if i am wrong this time, i give up and you guys take over .... x****

TomAz
09-04-2008, 10:16 AM
We all know my spelling is for crap what does that have to do with speaking english??? It's not like i speak spanish, vietnamese, chinese or russian and dont know what the fuck your saying...


QED

frozen pilgrim
09-04-2008, 10:19 AM
ron, if anything freaky happens like a stolen election or a coup or some type of war measures that prevent an election, you're welcome to bring yourself and whoever to hide up in in canada. I'm sure myself and lots of other people would assist. and if things go the other way, and the economy picks up and we enter a new age of prosperity, then we'll all be free to travel more, so it looks like we'll be having beers either way some time in the future.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:31 AM
at least I will never have to whine about missing Concerts in Toronto...everyone plays there....

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:33 AM
at least I will never have to whine about missing Concerts in Toronto...everyone plays there....

Ha! I was thinking the same thing! and maple syrup kicks ass

thinnerair
09-04-2008, 10:34 AM
Holy shit! Lets all leave america if they win because we wont stand for how this country iz tottally goona go to shiiiit the old man and the mother of that whore are going to ruin america and i dont want to be here when this ship sinkz!

lets go to africa!

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:35 AM
Ha! I was thinking the same thing! and maple syrup kicks ass

And lots of Mediterranean boys for you to play with.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:36 AM
lets go to africa!

Africa is for the Republicans anyways: No gun control, No taxes, No sex ed and everything based on Religion.

Young blood
09-04-2008, 10:38 AM
To many black people.

SoulDischarge
09-04-2008, 10:39 AM
I can't fucking take it. McCain is going to win. I just had someone tell me that Michael Moore has done more damage to this country than George W. Bush. And that he's going to vote for McCain. And this is the second homosexual I've heard say they were voting for McCain in 24 hours. It's time to ditch this sinking ship of a country. I can't live somewhere where I want to punch every person I see in the face because they're too stupid for basic self-preservation. I should have never even paid attention to this election in the first place. This is why half the country is apathetic. If you pay attention and care, it'll only give you a headache.

BlackSwan
09-04-2008, 10:41 AM
-The American public rolls over and does nothing; takes it like a bitch. Stews in malcontent for the next 4-8 years.


add... "and wastes time and energy bitching about it on message boards and blogs" to that and it sounds about right.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:42 AM
oh hey! My company has transfer opportunities in Toronto!!!

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:43 AM
I can totally transfer to a starbucks there, then find something much better for me, like a mountie!

thinnerair
09-04-2008, 10:46 AM
Africa has white people and rhinos and soccer and that weird calyspo music. Thats so much better than America. Fact!!!

Young blood
09-04-2008, 10:47 AM
Aids.

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:47 AM
*AIDz

Young blood
09-04-2008, 10:48 AM
I want to cut you.

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:49 AM
moi?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:50 AM
This thread is slowly turning into a gay orgy. I want in.

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:51 AM
I havent said shit, I cant help it if youngblood hits on me. but theres always an open invite for TCHH, the wife will understand

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:54 AM
I havent said shit, I cant help it if youngblood hits on me. but theres always an open invite for TCHH, the wife will understand

Why add the extra H to my name? Is this another gay innuendo I don't understand?

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:55 AM
you will understand with time my friend...

SoulDischarge
09-04-2008, 10:55 AM
McCain is turning all the straight boys gay. FACT.

Young blood
09-04-2008, 10:55 AM
hit you in the face.

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:56 AM
McCain is turning all the straight boys gay. FACT.

this might be my utopia

thinnerair
09-04-2008, 10:56 AM
hit you in the face with man loving kisses, right?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:57 AM
Palin is actually a really hot tranny. FACT

SoulDischarge
09-04-2008, 10:57 AM
Also, in regards to Africa. AIDS is kind of like sharks. If you don't go in the water, you probably won't get eaten.

Hannahrain
09-04-2008, 10:57 AM
this might be my utopia

We get it. You like men. Do you have anything else to offer the conversation?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 10:58 AM
Also, in regards to Africa. AIDS is kind of like sharks. If you don't go in the water, you probably won't get eaten.

Water being anal sex?

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 10:58 AM
We get it. You like men. Do you have anything else to offer the conversation?

uhhhh did I mention maple syrup already?

thinnerair
09-04-2008, 10:58 AM
I like Ice Cream.

Young blood
09-04-2008, 10:58 AM
hit you in the face with man loving kisses, right?

skeet skeet skeet.

SoulDischarge
09-04-2008, 11:00 AM
Water being anal sex?

Like water for chocolate.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 11:00 AM
Like water for chocolate.

ba dum bump!

captncrzy
09-04-2008, 11:09 AM
Way to gay up yet another thread

fatbastard
09-04-2008, 11:11 AM
FYI. John McCain has been on this earth for 26,304 days.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/2623635550_ea81e1d543.jpg?v=0

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 11:11 AM
Wasn't me Captn! I swear! Fucking TCHY...

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 11:12 AM
Wasn't me Captn! I swear! Fucking TCHY...

Hey! I am the married one here!

Young blood
09-04-2008, 11:14 AM
How does getting your ass captured in battle because you are shitty pilot and not paying attention make you a hero?

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 11:15 AM
Hey! I am the married one here!

Yeah because that means diddlysquat

I just re-read the last page and a half and you're totally egging me on! Stop it!

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 11:15 AM
How does getting your ass captured in battle because you are shitty pilot and not paying attention make you a hero?

because he was tortured...for like 5 years!

Young blood
09-04-2008, 11:16 AM
did he rescue any gook babies during those five years?

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 11:16 AM
Yeah because that means diddlysquat

I just re-read the last page and a half and you're totally egging me on! Stop it!

Man, these hos need to back off and let a playa play.

SoulDischarge
09-04-2008, 11:16 AM
Doesn't mean we have to be too.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 11:17 AM
did he rescue any gook babies during those five years?

no, he ate them for breakfast cuz you know you have to eat alot of them to feel full.

Blinken
09-04-2008, 11:17 AM
Last night Jon Stewart figured out that Guantanamo Bay is really a leadership academy.

PotVsKtl
09-04-2008, 11:52 AM
My plan is to tell you all to go fuck yourselves. Get ready.

TomAz
09-04-2008, 11:53 AM
so, the same as your post-Obama victory plan then?

Wheres the beef?
09-04-2008, 11:53 AM
Every so often I'll think about how America would react to McCain winning the election. I've come up with a few thoughts ranging from plausable to fantasy; almost like a "choose your own ending" book. And here's a few I've thought of (going from least violent to most violent):

-Massive protests
-Riots
-Guerrilla activity/Indigenous terrorism/Assasination
-Revolution/Civil War/Secession

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not some kind of warmonger or firebrand, but I've also thought of the most plausable response, and that seems even more frightening to me.

-The American public rolls over and does nothing; takes it like a bitch. Stews in malcontent for the next 4-8 years.

So what do you think Americans would do? What are your own plans?

I will be out of the country. Good luck with your martial law.

SoulDischarge
09-04-2008, 11:59 AM
My plan is to tell you all to go fuck yourselves. Get ready.

That's already implied by the phrase "McCain victory."

captncrzy
09-04-2008, 12:10 PM
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Quadromarshia
09-04-2008, 12:26 PM
FYI. John McCain has been on this earth for 26,304 days.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/2623635550_ea81e1d543.jpg?v=0

Part of me wants to meet the 12 sorry sons of bitches that said "hm, a word for John McCain? how about liberal!" But then again, maybe I don't...

P.S.- I fucking DESPISE Sean Hannity. And Ann Coulter for that matter too. But I would tap that tight ass, if you know what I mean!

shakermaker113
09-04-2008, 12:27 PM
I remember before bush got re-elected, there was a lot of talk of ambitious plans to leave the country. the day it happened, everyone I knew who had threatened to leave fell silent. everyone was butthurt, and nobody would follow through.

I don't see why this would be any different. tragic it may be, but will we do anything about it? I'm betting, no.

Young blood
09-04-2008, 12:29 PM
Part of me wants to meet the 12 sorry sons of bitches that said "hm, a word for John McCain? how about liberal!" But then again, maybe I don't...

P.S.- I fucking DESPISE Sean Hannity. And Ann Coulter for that matter too. But I would tap that tight ass, if you know what I mean!

Sean Hannity knows what you mean and I think hes all for it. You go boy.

amyzzz
09-04-2008, 12:30 PM
No riots. The reaction will be every teenage girl wanting to get pregnant, a surge in the popularity of hockey, and the return of the bun hair style.
She has great hair. I was wondering how she got it to pouf on the crown. I wish my hair would do that. YES, GODDAMNIT I WANT SARAH PALIN'S HAIR.

apostle2
09-04-2008, 12:35 PM
I didn't bother to read the rest of teh thread, but my hypothetical plan for a post-McCain victory - Toronto 4 Life.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 12:36 PM
yeah, I think Toronto would be the best bet.

captncrzy
09-04-2008, 01:45 PM
Ann Coulter is a man, baby.

bullokz
09-04-2008, 02:20 PM
Every so often I'll think about how America would react to McCain winning the election. I've come up with a few thoughts ranging from plausable to fantasy; almost like a "choose your own ending" book. And here's a few I've thought of (going from least violent to most violent):

-Massive protests
-Riots
-Guerrilla activity/Indigenous terrorism/Assasination
-Revolution/Civil War/Secession

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not some kind of warmonger or firebrand, but I've also thought of the most plausable response, and that seems even more frightening to me.

-The American public rolls over and does nothing; takes it like a bitch. Stews in malcontent for the next 4-8 years.

So what do you think Americans would do? What are your own plans?

Make a poll about it.

Do not go to any McCain initiated war.
You should form and lead a group to be called Ashamed to Be An American.

M Sparks
09-04-2008, 02:43 PM
Every so often I'll think about how America would react to McCain winning the election. I've come up with a few thoughts ranging from plausable to fantasy; almost like a "choose your own ending" book. And here's a few I've thought of (going from least violent to most violent):

-Massive protests
-Riots
-Guerrilla activity/Indigenous terrorism/Assasination
-Revolution/Civil War/Secession

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not some kind of warmonger or firebrand, but I've also thought of the most plausable response, and that seems even more frightening to me.

-The American public rolls over and does nothing; takes it like a bitch. Stews in malcontent for the next 4-8 years.

So what do you think Americans would do? What are your own plans?

We already had the worst possible election outcome four years ago. I must have slept through the Indigenous Terrorism.

If McCain wins, nothing much will change... America will get 10% better. If Obama wins, nothing much will change... America will get, oh, 12%-15% better, and I might actually sort of pay attention when he has something to say.

America is still full of idiots. The government is still full of idiots. You're putting an awful lot of faith in one man's influence.

Bud Luster
09-04-2008, 02:54 PM
I'm not saying a word until I know where "Rap/Rock is Life" stands on all of this...

M Sparks
09-04-2008, 04:24 PM
I'm not saying a word until I know where "Rap/Rock is Life" stands on all of this...

Funny, I got a PM from him earlier in the week


Thank you for asking. While I generally support Obama because I feel he could be a powerful agent for positive social change, I also see the potential benefit of a McCain presidency.

If McCain had been elected in 2000, he may very well have led us down the same path to war. But he undoubtedly would have managed it better. McCain may be in a better position to clean up Bush's mess, because he has more of a stake in it. He also may understand the problems we face better, because he understands Bush's motivation better.

Either way, on lelection night, I'm gettin' fuckin' all faded as fuck and spraying a warm Faygo on my bitchez'z chocolate starfish. Cream soda for McCain, grape for Obama. I'z out.

amyzzz
09-04-2008, 04:26 PM
hahahahaha

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-04-2008, 04:27 PM
Hmm....I never knew Rap/Rock was so articulate.

BROKENDOLL
09-04-2008, 04:47 PM
because he was tortured...for like 5 years! Look at it this way...By the end of his term, (If he lives that long) we'll all be heroes.

greghead
09-04-2008, 05:17 PM
because he was tortured...for like 5 years!

Too bad they didn't finish the job

M Sparks
09-04-2008, 05:19 PM
because he was tortured...for like 5 years!

Actually, it was more like 2. After Ho Chi Minh died, their treatment became more humane, according to this Philip Butler guy he was in prison with (and who was there and tortured well before McCain.)

Jus sayin...not trying to disrespect his military career. Google Philip Butler, you'll find a bunch of stuff about McCain's time in prison. I question Butler's motivation for trying to tear down McCain's rep a little, but it is a valid point. If he and his supporters insist on trying to exploit and embellish his own past, it's fair game. Butler was tortured longer than McCain, doesn't make him more of a hero, or more qualified to be president.

sbessiso
09-04-2008, 05:21 PM
Too bad they didn't finish the job

Zing!

thewindowliquor
09-04-2008, 05:31 PM
Ever think they might react with apathy? Apathy and disappointment?

Because, as long as they don't take away our fast food, our fast cars, and our sleazy women, that's going to be the reaction. Apathy.

QTF

edit: *QFT.

bullokz
09-04-2008, 05:51 PM
QTF

que the fuck ? lol

boarderwoozel3
09-04-2008, 06:05 PM
It won't be any worse than Bush winning re-election. Thats WWWWAAAAAYYYYYY worse than McCain winning this election. And as we saw four years ago, people didn't do anything.

Wheres the beef?
09-04-2008, 06:06 PM
QTF

edit: *QFT.

Why not just actually edit it.

bluemamba
09-04-2008, 06:42 PM
"I will veto it. I will make them famous and take their names!!!"

Beef Jerky
09-05-2008, 05:23 AM
I just woke up from a horrible nightmare.
It was about McCain's landslide victory.

lol ew. How did he invade my beauty sleepy time

Blinken
09-05-2008, 06:01 AM
I have a feeling that if he wins he will just say fuck you to the republicans, and go back to the McCain of 2000. At least it makes me feel better about the prospect of a McCain administration.

gaypalmsprings
09-05-2008, 06:12 AM
I just woke up from a horrible nightmare.
It was about McCain's landslide victory.

lol ew. How did he invade my beauty sleepy time

Was Sarah Palin in your dream?

Boourns
09-05-2008, 06:24 AM
I just woke up from a horrible nightmare.
It was about McCain's landslide victory.

lol ew. How did he invade my beauty sleepy time

Beef Jerky! How are you?

That's quite a frightening nightmare, yes.

Back on topic, I've already looked into moving to Canadia in the past and it's not exactly easy.

Quadromarshia
09-05-2008, 06:30 AM
I've already looked into moving to Canadia in the past and it's not exactly easy.


I've been looking to move abroad for a while now. It's difficult to move just about anywhere. I want to move to the Pacific coast, like Portland or Seattle. If I'm moving out of the country it'll either be to Buenos Aries or some beach commune in Uruguay.

sbessiso
09-05-2008, 06:38 AM
Back on topic, I've already looked into moving to Canadia in the past and it's not exactly easy.

It can't be that hard, can it?

fatbastard
09-05-2008, 06:59 AM
Canada is the last place to move.

captncrzy
09-05-2008, 07:10 AM
I have a feeling that if he wins he will just say fuck you to the republicans, and go back to the McCain of 2000. At least it makes me feel better about the prospect of a McCain administration.

That won't happen if he wants to get reelected.

Blinken
09-05-2008, 07:18 AM
That won't happen if he wants to get reelected.

Very true, but I don't think he cares about re-election. He is 72 and will 76 when it is time for re-election, and 80 by the end of his second term. If he goes into it with the idea that he will only be president for four years then it might happen.

captncrzy
09-05-2008, 07:21 AM
Unfortunately, McCain is a politician, through and through. The evidence is in the fact that he's totally done a 180 from the 2000-middle-of-the-road Republican to the hardcore he claims to be now. If he wasn't interested in only getting his ass in the White House, he wouldn't have changed his stance.

The only chance is that he's willing to take the gamble, go back to who he was before and win everyone over so he's a shoo-in for the next election. I don't see the right wingers that finance his campaign letting that happen though.

Too bad, if he had stayed the way he was and he didn't have some extreme right wing cunt running with him, I'd probably be voting for him.

PassiveTheory
09-05-2008, 07:22 AM
I'd go to France if I ever felt like moving anywhere. At least I have family there and speak the language.

Cheddar's Cousin
09-05-2008, 07:25 AM
That won't happen if he wants to get reelected.

That's what I'm hoping for.

If he does, maybe most of you libs will see that he really does want to do what's best for the U.S., and help us re-elect him.

All off you pussies who move to Canada can just stay there either way.

What am I saying? You guys are all just talk anyway. You'll all still be here.

If any of you put as much effort into actually changing things as you do in talking about changing things, we might already live in the crunchy granola utopia you all dream about.

Blinken
09-05-2008, 07:27 AM
I would be too Capt, I really liked McCain in 2000. Palin scares the shit out of me, I really hope that if he does win he doesn't die.

I still think there is a chance, albeit a small one, that he has done all of this bullshit to get elected so he can push through the things he wanted and was passionate about in 2000.

He realized after 2000 that the Republicans would never let him be the presidential nominee unless he joined the ranks. That is what he has done in the past 8 years and the question is why? Did he just want the office of president to satisfy his own ambitions? Or did he really want to help out the country and this was the only way he could get it done? Who knows, and i hope we don't have to find out the answer to this question because Obama will hopefully win.

captncrzy
09-05-2008, 07:27 AM
Sure he wants to do what's best for the country; he also wants to take away our right to choose what we do with our bodies and continue this complete bullshit war. You can't have it both ways.

captncrzy
09-05-2008, 07:29 AM
I guess we just all need to go vote and hope for the best if he does get elected. In any case, if he's really serious about who he is now, not much will change. Nothings going to get done-there's still Democratic control over the House and Senate....or is it just the House? I don't even know since nothing's happening.

Cheddar's Cousin
09-05-2008, 07:32 AM
The Dems still hold a majority in both.

That's the way it works best. Checks and balances keep the system in check. Opposite party control of the executive and legislative branches will always be the best case scenario.

Blinken
09-05-2008, 07:32 AM
Of course, but he was pro choice until he fell into lockstep with the Republican Party. I really don't think that will be high on his agenda no matter what he says. Remember he wanted pro-choice Lebierman as his running mate, but instead appeased the social conservatives with palin. It is just a question of why he is appeasing them and what his ultimate goal is.

Cheddar's Cousin
09-05-2008, 07:36 AM
His ultimate goal is the Presidency. I believe that he is man enough to seperate his personal beliefs from his policy decisions.

I am anti abortion personally, but would never support anti abortion legislation, except in the extreme cases of late term/partial birth.

I also have personnal issues with homosexuality (I know what I did there), but I will not vote to disallow gay marriage.

bullokz
09-05-2008, 07:36 AM
McCain is a politically opportunistic liar.

Cheddar's Cousin
09-05-2008, 07:37 AM
McCain is a politician.

fixed

Jon Blazed
09-05-2008, 07:40 AM
I thought it was a prerequisite to serve in the armed forces in order to be President?

Quadromarshia
09-05-2008, 07:41 AM
His ultimate goal is the Presidency. I believe that he is man enough to seperate his personal beliefs from his policy decisions.

I am anti abortion personally, but would never support anti abortion legislation, except in the extreme cases of late term/partial birth.

I also have personnal issues with homosexuality (I know what I did there), but I will not vote to disallow gay marriage.

I wish every other conservative was like you. ^^ That's the way it ought to be.

bullokz
09-05-2008, 07:42 AM
Question: What are the requirements to become President?

Answer: The United States Constitution outlines the requirements for President in Article 2. This article of the U.S. Constitution also outlines the many powers of the President and Executive branch of government.
Section 1 of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution states that a President must:

be a natural born citizen of the United States
be at least 35 years old have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years
In addition, the 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that a President may not serve more than 2 terms of 4 years each, even if they have only served as President for 2 or more years of one of those terms.

Cheddar's Cousin
09-05-2008, 07:45 AM
Cheddar is an idiot.

FIXED

You don't even know my cousin.

Blinken
09-05-2008, 07:45 AM
I thought it was a prerequisite to serve in the armed forces in order to be President?

Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, would disagree.

bullokz
09-05-2008, 07:50 AM
Cheddar and Cheddar's Cousin are idiots.

fixed


Thank you.

PassiveTheory
09-05-2008, 08:03 AM
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, would disagree.

Those two were liberal sissies anyway. Granted, Jefferson had some pretty Republican-ish sex scandals, but that doesn't strike either of them off the list.

Wheres the beef?
09-05-2008, 09:07 AM
I'd go to France if I ever felt like moving anywhere. At least I have family there and speak the language.

Paging Sean Hannity.

Jon Blazed
09-05-2008, 09:11 AM
You don't even know my cousin.

sigged

Wheres the beef?
09-05-2008, 09:17 AM
Of course, but he was pro choice until he fell into lockstep with the Republican Party. I really don't think that will be high on his agenda no matter what he says. Remember he wanted pro-choice Lebierman as his running mate, but instead appeased the social conservatives with palin. It is just a question of why he is appeasing them and what his ultimate goal is.

That's because McCain has had a hard time rallying the groups that "put" GW into office: the christian fundamentalist/fiscally conservative/anti gay rights/pro-life crowds. He's having a hard time getting these people behind him. I mean, he only recently (2 years ago?) became a "christian" and regularly attending one of those mega-churches so people will see him.