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gaypalmsprings
07-25-2008, 09:41 PM
From Desert Sun

Colin Atagi July 25, 2008

Police have arrested a man suspected of vandalizing property in Indio on several occasions over the past three years.

Indio police officers arrested Jason Williams, 31, Thursday morning in Los Angeles, the department reported today.

Williams allegedly committed vandalism while attending the Coachella Music and Arts Festival each year since 2006.

Investigators identified Williams through various sources, including videos of himself on youtube.com, Indio police spokesman Ben Guitron said.

The local agency worked with the Los Angeles Police Department to track down Williams in the 3900 block of Kentucky Street in Los Angeles.

He was brought back to the Coachella Valley and booked into the Riverside County Jail in Indio on vandalism charges.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 10:19 PM
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/jason_williams-arton21254-240x240.jpg

so that's what happened to White Chocolate....

zenidogx
07-25-2008, 10:20 PM
our inflatable pigs are safe again

algunz
07-25-2008, 10:23 PM
I hate taggers. It's so pointless.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 10:25 PM
I find myself, for the most part, trying to decipher what they're tagging. Often times it just takes too much effort and you're left saying wtf? Couldn't they take up more constructive forms of expression? I mean, granted the more detailed form of street art can have some redeeming qualities, but for the most part the average tagger uses scribble technique and that isn't at all worthwhile.

algunz
07-25-2008, 10:28 PM
It's become so popular amongst my junior high kids. I find these shitty little things all over my classroom and the campus. You are totally right, HS. They are soooo ugly and for the most part have no artistic integrity.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 10:35 PM
Yeah when its done where it shouldn't be, it is usually ugly and not worth it. Now, there are exhibits and controlled graffiti expositions (Rock The Bells used to do it, I don't know if they still do) in which it is actually well done. It also leads to mistakened identity when you have taggers marking up areas in which are claimed by gangs. It isn't at all a good situation when that arises.

algunz
07-25-2008, 10:42 PM
Graffiti art is a completely different beast. When it's well done, it's quite beautiful. Tagging though is usually just chicken scratch.

When I was in Copenhagen, I hooked up with this group of artists. We hit the streets at 3 in the morning and by 5 they had created a fantastic mural on a wall of a nearby train stop. It was such fun watching this thing being created.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 10:45 PM
Graffiti art is a completely different beast. When it's well done, it's quite beautiful. Tagging though is usually just chicken scratch.

When I was in Copenhagen, I hooked up with this group of artists. We hit the streets at 3 in the morning and by 5 they had created a fantastic mural on a wall of a nearby train stop. It was such fun watching this thing being created.

Man, Europe has some really well-done pieces. I had a friend, who went by the moniker Gofar in high school, that was really talented at murals and did one depicting a scene (an interpretation) from Soylent Green and it was fuckin' awesome. Of course many of the publications didn't quite understand it and didn't publish it. We were also too young and poor to take pictures of it before it was painted over.

BROKENDOLL
07-25-2008, 10:49 PM
Would stealing Coachella Pink Elephant flags be considered vandalism? And would you believe the flagpole is still laying exactly where whoever tossed it the day Coachella ended?

BROKENDOLL
07-25-2008, 10:49 PM
Christ! I can already feel Algunz going over my grammar and grading that last post!

algunz
07-25-2008, 10:52 PM
This mural was of the word Peace in giant letters with flowers, birds and such. It sounds cheesy, but it was quite edgy. They wouldn't let me take pictures, because they said the flashes would attract attention. I told them that a group of people spraying a wall at 4 in the morning doesn't attract enough attention. They told me to fuck off and sprayed the ass of my jeans with yellow paint. OMG, they were such a fun group.

algunz
07-25-2008, 10:54 PM
BD, I'm not the grammar Nazi. Randy's the one that usually gets all up in people's mistakes.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Bansky does some tremendous work...

algunz
07-25-2008, 11:04 PM
That's fantastic. My father has a friend who wrote a book on the graffiti in Los Angeles. When I was a senior in high school, she visited from France and I had to drive all over LA seeking out pieces. It was really enlightening to see how talented some of these urban artists are. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go with her the day she interviewed a few of them.

Backwater
07-25-2008, 11:26 PM
Banksky is great. There is some amazing graffiti at Scribblejam.

M Sparks
07-25-2008, 11:38 PM
I thought this said "notorious t-bagger."

No offense, GPS.

indietron
07-25-2008, 11:59 PM
Bansky is where its at... My favorite of his stuff is this:
http://www.forumonpublicdomain.ca/Commons/images/banksy.jpg
http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/landscapes/soldierbeth01.jpg


Graffiti art is something that can be remarkable, but tagging is just straight-up ugly. I recently visited Chile and they don't mind graffiti art but will arrest you for tagging...

Mr. Dylanja
07-26-2008, 12:35 AM
Thank God GPS is on top of this, like any other suspecting male =)

gaypalmsprings
07-26-2008, 07:26 AM
I thought this said "notorious t-bagger."

No offense, GPS.

No offense taken. Ha.

http://media.funlol.com/content/img/stairs-of-graffiti-illusion.jpg

frozen pilgrim
07-26-2008, 07:44 AM
hunh^^^ that's one of the stops on the sheppard subway line in toronto.

it's not actually graffiti. all the stations on the sheppard line have murals, installation art, etc. that staircase is actually part of the tile itself.

but it IS fucking trippy. I've been past that very thing in that picture on mushrooms, and it's quite captivating in real life.

JustSteve
07-26-2008, 01:27 PM
anyone remember when l.a. was all about "chaka" back in the day...

algunz
07-26-2008, 10:17 PM
7e_yUupHNwc

gaypalmsprings
07-28-2008, 06:12 AM
Coachella tagger arrested

The Desert Sun wire services • July 28, 2008

A 31-year-old Los Angeles man suspected of leaving his mark -- ``Revok'' -- around the Coachella Valley during the last three Coachella Music and Arts Festivals has been arrested at his house, and is facing a vandalism charge.

The alleged tagger's habit of promoting himself on Web sites like YouTube helped investigators track him down, an Indio police spokesman said
today.

Jason ``Revok'' Williams was arrested in Los Angeles Thursday morning, and booked on suspicion of vandalism in connection with tagging incidents over the past three years, incidents coinciding with the popular Coachella Festival.

Police had been searching for Williams since April 25, when a new round of tags were spotted, and they were able to get fingerprints and track Williams down through the Internet, said Indio police spokesman Ben Guitron.

``He kept showing up at the Coachella Fest, and he kept tagging parts of our city,'' Guitron said. ``No matter what you call it, it's defacing public and private property.''

Williams apparently had corporate sponsors who backed his efforts as cutting-edge artistic expression, Guitron said.

``He's considered to have great talent, but out here it's not accepted,'' Guitron said. ``It's a lifestyle where they love to promote themselves.

We saw some things on YouTube and other places. We were able to
identify him that way.''

Guitron said other agencies are following up on the identification of ``Revok'' and other tag identities Williams allegedly used.

More charges in other jurisdictions may be forthcoming, Guitron said.

gaypalmsprings
07-28-2008, 06:15 AM
I think is his website (http://www.revok1.com/). He shows 100s (or 1000s) of photos of his work.

algunz
07-28-2008, 06:49 AM
Pretty stupid, but if most of the pictures are like that first one I understand. That's a cool photo.

sikiboy
07-28-2008, 02:33 PM
Just to let you guys know that is Banksy not Bansky. Peace.

menikmati
07-28-2008, 02:45 PM
anyone remember when l.a. was all about "chaka" back in the day...

You know, growing up I always thought "chaka" was a type of drums (because of the SLTS video of course), and it wasn't until like 5 years ago when I was watching some documentary on TV I think where they were interviewing the band back in the day, and Dave had mentioned something about the chaka graffiti and then all of a sudden it hit me. Haha.

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 04:54 PM
i have no respect for people, who dont see graffiti as art. i make many stencils and do wheat pasting all over LA. i agree gang tanging and most peoples paint pen stuff sucks but it is a wonderful artform.
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BANKSY is brilliant. Hopefully he and NECKFACE return to la. i miss seeing their stuff

algunz
09-26-2008, 05:00 PM
What is wheat pasting?

Backwater
09-26-2008, 05:02 PM
I saw a documentary on Banksy, very interesting, great artist.

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 05:07 PM
What is wheat pasting?

its the kind of art OBEY does. stuff like this...
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the only reason i dont like wheatepasting more than making stencils is that its easier, but im obsessed with both. i love it because when you put your art on the street by stenciling or wheat pasting; nobody knows your the artist. its a very humbling artform

M Sparks
09-26-2008, 05:47 PM
Well, at least we stopped all the notorious tagging that was going on in this forum.

humanoid
09-26-2008, 06:19 PM
I saw a documentary on Banksy, very interesting, great artist.

Banksy is awesome

Backwater
09-26-2008, 06:21 PM
Did anyone see what he did at the Big Thunder Mountain in Disneyland? Haha

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 06:57 PM
Did anyone see what he did at the Big Thunder Mountain in Disneyland? Haha

no, can you post a pic ASAP! i need this

Backwater
09-26-2008, 07:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkZoC6dwRqE

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 07:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkZoC6dwRqE

yesss! thank you sir, you've just increased my love for him even more. Banksy is truly brilliant. i dig the Dj Shadow at the beginning too.

Backwater
09-26-2008, 07:16 PM
You're welcome, but I still wish you were Chad, or at least said you were. Damnit!

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 07:34 PM
sorry, i kind of wish i would have just played along and said i was the infamous Chad too. It would have givin me, and all of you, some good laughs but seriously I.... AM... CHAD!! dun dun dun

Bud Luster
09-26-2008, 08:17 PM
yesss! thank you sir, you've just increased my love for him even more. Banksy is truly brilliant. i dig the Dj Shadow at the beginning too.

So... he dressed up an inflatable dummy and propped it up disneyland like it was part of the scenery and you love him for it. That shit isnt art. That shit isnt provacative. What statement did he make? That he can get Thunder Mountain closed down while they investigate his dummy? Im not knocking his graf skills at all, but when you paint on public (other peoples private property) it costs the city or citizens $$$ to clean that bullshit off. Whether you think its art or think that it's appealing is completley irrelevant.

algunz
09-26-2008, 08:30 PM
When we invade Disneyland, we need to hang a blow up doll with huge dreads and aidz needlz.

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 08:38 PM
i just thought the Disneyland thing was funny. would you rather have a blank white boring wall or one with art on it and how could you call his art bullshit? i think most people would rather have his art on walls and such then have their tax dollars being wasting on painting over it. This is how Banksy feels obout his art being erased....

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indietron
09-26-2008, 08:45 PM
I saw a documentary on Banksy, very interesting, great artist.

Where did you see this??

humanoid
09-26-2008, 08:51 PM
/\ I saw part of it with my friend at this trippy art party thing in NY, I think it was from 2000 or 2001, I don't know any other details about it though

Backwater
09-26-2008, 09:02 PM
Where did you see this??

Bonnaroo Cinema Tent

In a related note, the mockumentary of jamband culture that Les Claypool directed is pretty funny. It's called Festeroo: Quest for the Electric Apricot

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 09:24 PM
damn, i wonder if there's a dvd or somthing on the net of this documentary.
I also need to check out this Festeroo: Quest for the Electric Apricot(thanks water). glad to see fans of street art on here.

indietron
09-26-2008, 09:31 PM
damn, i wonder if there's a dvd or somthing on the net of this documentary.
I also need to check out this Festeroo: Quest for the Electric Apricot(thanks water). glad to see fans of street art on here.

I love street art... I just hate tagging.

My favorite of ALL TIME is this...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/260912720_3ecb899968.jpg?v=0

Its on Melrose. I dont know who did it but whoever did... I love them.

algunz
09-26-2008, 09:35 PM
Graffiti art can be so beautiful and full of awesome. Unfortunately most of the new generation has just gotten caught in the "lets scratch my shitty tag in every crevice I can" crap.






I'm feeling very cynical tonight, sorry.

woogie846
09-26-2008, 09:55 PM
I can't stop looking at the one with the stairs.

Geno_g
09-26-2008, 10:05 PM
I use to do it a lot when I was younger, but the risk is too high, I still do stencils and need to do more wheat pasting, it's fun but now there are times where you see the same tag in the same area, over 10 time and it's the same tag...

Geno_g
09-26-2008, 10:06 PM
I can't stop looking at the one with the stairs.

That is a trip, that stairs one is great...

algunz
09-26-2008, 10:07 PM
What is wheat pasting?

Geno_g
09-26-2008, 10:09 PM
its the kind of art OBEY does. stuff like this...


His name is Shepard Fairey, his company is called Obey, he owes a lot to the John Carpenter film, "They Live"

Geno_g
09-26-2008, 10:11 PM
What is wheat pasting?

It's where you draw on paper or spray paint on paper or a sick design poster and you put wheat paste on the back and stick it to a wall and cover the top with the wheat paste with a paint roller and it will dry to the building...

humanoid
09-26-2008, 10:11 PM
Graffiti art can be so beautiful and full of awesome. Unfortunately most of the new generation has just gotten caught in the "lets scratch my shitty tag in every crevice I can" crap.






I'm feeling very cynical tonight, sorry.

tagging is a whole different story

I was visiting my friend in NY a little while ago, and we walked around Brooklyn for about 5 hours until the sun came up, taking pics of every worthwhile bit of street art we could find, it was pretty fun

I even think we witnessed some mobsters dumping a body out of the trunk of their Lincoln into the East River, that part wasn't as fun though

Geno_g
09-26-2008, 10:13 PM
tagging is a whole different story

I was visiting my friend in NY a little while ago, and we walked around Brooklyn for about 5 hours until the sun came up, taking pics of every worthwhile bit of street art we could find, it was pretty fun

I even think we witnessed some mobsters dumping a body out of the trunk of their Lincoln into the East River, that part wasn't as fun though

NY is a different story in General, that's where Graffiti originated, in SF they had to make up their own style, but in NY, they had Wild Style, and all of these styles of Graffiti that was passed down generation to generation...

algunz
09-26-2008, 10:14 PM
Somehow that doesn't answer my question. Is it in the application? I don't get it.

I've met Shepard a couple of times. He's got a couple of warehouses nearby. There's also a bar/restaurant in the Santa Ana art district called The Crosby that does a lot of stuff with him. He's a cool guy.

algunz
09-26-2008, 10:15 PM
It's where you draw on paper or spray paint on paper or a sick design poster and you put wheat paste on the back and stick it to a wall and cover the top with the wheat paste with a paint roller and it will dry to the building...

Thanks. :thu

Geno_g
09-26-2008, 10:16 PM
You draw a picture and stick it to a building using Wheat paste, that's what it is...

Edit: Guess you didn't read my post above, oh well

algunz
09-26-2008, 10:17 PM
I even think we witnessed some mobsters dumping a body out of the trunk of their Lincoln into the East River, that part wasn't as fun though

In college, our crew team came across atleast 2 floaters in the 4 years that I was there.

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 10:21 PM
I use to do it a lot when I was younger, but the risk is too high, I still do stencils and need to do more wheat pasting, it's fun but now there are times where you see the same tag in the same area, over 10 time and it's the same tag...

i've been pretty lucky when it comes to the cops because i do everything really late at night. but yeah the one time i did get in trouble was when i sprayed a stencil on one of those priority mail stickers you get at post offices and stuck it on a street sign during the day and this cop turned a corner and saw me. i was so lucky tho he let me go with a warning cus i was only 17 then.

Young blood
09-26-2008, 10:23 PM
cops dont arrest narcs.


stop being a bitch and die.

Blinken
09-26-2008, 10:24 PM
no but that is how they flip snitchs YB

humanoid
09-26-2008, 10:24 PM
In college, our crew team came across atleast 2 floaters in the 4 years that I was there.

I'm completely serious too, it was very shady...

Geno_g
09-26-2008, 10:26 PM
I do blackbooks, and paper, if I have a canvas I'll do a painting, but it's not worth the risk, I've had close calls (ditching cans and running for my life), but I did find some Spain Montana Cans that some kid left in front of my house, full black and yellow, and these can I use to buy for $8-12 bucks at this store on the Haight called Anapus worpus, I know I spelled it wrong but, OH WELL!

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-26-2008, 10:28 PM
cops dont arrest narcs.


stop being a bitch and die.

would a narc really be into making stencils and wheat paste stuff. goddamn you annoy me with your paranoia bullshit

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-27-2008, 12:21 AM
Forgive me for being off topic ,but Blinkin your sig completes me. a gig gi gyea

Backwater
09-27-2008, 12:47 AM
... but he should get rid of the Zep for 09. I would LOVE for that to happen but it doesn't look like it will now.

amyzzz
09-27-2008, 12:50 AM
Wait, he has a youtube in his sig?

M Sparks
09-27-2008, 08:03 AM
Wait, he has a youtube in his sig?

That's going to get annoying quick. You get more than 8 or 10 on one page and it starts crashing things on my connection speed.

Oh anyway, I was just coming to post this Youtube.

C97CtJW06H8

CHEIF SHAMAN MORRISON
09-27-2008, 09:54 AM
i fucking hate marc eco and wtf was that clip?? hahaha

Bud Luster
09-27-2008, 07:11 PM
i just thought the Disneyland thing was funny. would you rather have a blank white boring wall or one with art on it and how could you call his art bullshit? i think most people would rather have his art on walls and such then have their tax dollars being wasting on painting over it. This is how Banksy feels obout his art being erased....

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I didnt call his art bullshit. I called the fact that he defaces other peoples property bullshit. It doesnt matter if you or I or grafitti Doug would rather have a boring wall or a wall w/ art on it. What matters is what the owner of that wall thinks. I dont give a fuck what Banksy thinks about his art being erased and frankly, who does. Is he trying to equate his graf with ancient cave paintings? bullshit! If he paints on other peoples walls its a crime and its going to come down. You dont speak for most people and you are wrong about their opinion. Most people want the graf to come down / off their walls and do want their tax $$ spent taking it down.

algunz
09-28-2008, 08:34 AM
You can paint on my walls all day long if the work looked like Banksy and the like, unfortunately most of the cunts who do graffiti suck balls and need to be erased from the earth not just the wall. :2c