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Mr. Dylanja
07-22-2008, 02:43 PM
Alright D-Backs fans, I don't know anything about this closer we got, was it worth it?

Bonafacio is all we gave up correct?

mountmccabe
07-22-2008, 02:53 PM
Oooh, cool. The name isn't very familiar to me either but he's been middle relief/occasional closer for the Nationals for a couple years; not a very noteworthy position.

His numbers (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6620;_ylt=AmGKLI9Bij7omcE_v0X9I1KFCLcF) look sick, though. Since 2006 (his first year throwing over 30 IP) he has 8 K/9, a whip of 1.14 and a K/BB of 3.1. That's promising.

humanoid
07-22-2008, 07:20 PM
Oooh, cool. The name isn't very familiar to me either but he's been middle relief/occasional closer for the Nationals for a couple years; not a very noteworthy position.

His numbers (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6620;_ylt=AmGKLI9Bij7omcE_v0X9I1KFCLcF) look sick, though. Since 2006 (his first year throwing over 30 IP) he has 8 K/9, a whip of 1.14 and a K/BB of 3.1. That's promising.

is Rauch supposed to take over closing for Lyon?

Mr. Dylanja
07-22-2008, 08:00 PM
is Rauch supposed to take over closing for Lyon?

I think he's supposed to take over the 8th w/ the exception of tonight and possibly tomorrow. Melvin is giving Lyons a day or two recover...



EDIT: btw, we're lookin great!

bakersfield
07-22-2008, 08:58 PM
Rauch has good stuff & is having a nice year. I really like the pickup.
We need to stabilize that weak bullpen.
Bonafacio will be good though.....

Great spot start by Petit tonight. Hopefully we are turning a corner!!!!!!!
Just hoping O-dog is OK.

Newro7ic
07-23-2008, 07:58 AM
You AZ fans are so optimistic. You think your team is looking great, but they've barely made it to a .500 record. It's kind of endearing in a way. I love the Dodgers, but they are fucking terrible, even if they are in second place..

The NL west is just a very sad division.

bakersfield
07-23-2008, 08:23 AM
You AZ fans are so optimistic. You think your team is looking great, but they've barely made it to a .500 record. It's kind of endearing in a way. I love the Dodgers, but they are fucking terrible, even if they are in second place..

The NL west is just a very sad division.

I think if you read through the posts, you'll see some of us are not too optimistic...we recognize our struggles & weaknesses.
The division is awful this year. It was the best in the NL last year.
Luckily, even with our poor play we are still in first.
Maybe we can get some momentum going & limp strong to the finish line....
it is all about timing

DRcube
07-23-2008, 08:28 AM
nl worst again!!
damn the west sucks...

TomAz
07-23-2008, 08:46 AM
nl worst again!!
damn the west sucks...

The clarity of your insight is rivaled only by the sharpness of your wit. Thank you for your thoughtful contribution. Good luck on all your future endeavors.

Hopeless Semantic
07-23-2008, 08:52 AM
The clarity of your insight is rivaled only by the sharpness of your wit. Thank you for your thoughtful contribution. Good luck on all your future endeavors.

C'mon Tom, did you really expect someone with an avatar of Stimpy to provide discusison about baseball with any form of substance?

By the way, K-Rod is up to 41 saves now...

TomAz
07-23-2008, 08:58 AM
If the DBacks had not made that Valverde for Qualls and Burke trade this offseason, I think we'd be at least 10 games better than we are now. damn.

bakersfield
07-23-2008, 09:10 AM
nl worst again!!
damn the west sucks...

Worst again?
Wasn't it last year that the wildcard came from the West--The Rockies. They had to beat ANOTHER team from the West in a one game playoff (the Padres), in order to claim the wild card.
The teams from the East & Central were already gone by time they had to beat another team from the West (the Diamondbacks) in the NLCS to go on to the World Series.
Sure, the NL West is bad so far this year.
But a year ago today if you were to tell someone that the Rockies were going to the 07 World Series, they would of said you were FUCKING NUTS!
So who knows what the next 2 months holds for our beloved Western Division!

Newro7ic
07-23-2008, 09:46 AM
Worst again?
Wasn't it last year that the wildcard came from the West--The Rockies. They had to beat ANOTHER team from the West in a one game playoff (the Padres), in order to claim the wild card.
The teams from the East & Central were already gone by time they had to beat another team from the West (the Diamondbacks) in the NLCS to go on to the World Series.
Sure, the NL West is bad so far this year.
But a year ago today if you were to tell someone that the Rockies were going to the 07 World Series, they would of said you were FUCKING NUTS!
So who knows what the next 2 months holds for our beloved Western Division!

In the end it will all be who's the hottest come playoff time. That could easily be a team from the NL West, but I'm not holding out hope. I don't see any major moves on the horizon to get a team from our division into the true contender column. But, there is still a lot of baseball left, and here's hoping I'm wrong... for the Dodgers, at least. Hopefully the DBacks will completely tank! ;)

Mr. Dylanja
07-23-2008, 10:26 AM
Anyone know the status of O-Hud?

Down Rodeo
07-23-2008, 11:04 AM
In the end it will all be who's the hottest come playoff time. That could easily be a team from the NL West, but I'm not holding out hope. I don't see any major moves on the horizon to get a team from our division into the true contender column. But, there is still a lot of baseball left, and here's hoping I'm wrong... for the Dodgers, at least. Hopefully the DBacks will completely tank! ;)

I agree, I hope the Dodgers quit dicking around and take over the D-Bags for good.

patsfan5454
07-23-2008, 11:08 AM
I agree, I hope the Dodgers quit dicking around and take over the D-Bags for good.

Andruw Jones needs to get some help from Mattingly now!!! If he doesnt start hitting Pierre is gonna come back and take his spot back in the outfield!

bakersfield
07-23-2008, 01:44 PM
Anyone know the status of O-Hud?

I heard nothing is broken & he should be fine.

thewindowliquor
07-23-2008, 01:54 PM
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bakersfield
07-23-2008, 01:58 PM
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7727/nlwestkg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7727/nlwestkg7.46c264b509.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=149&i=nlwestkg7.jpg)

your point is.... ???

chairmenmeow47
07-23-2008, 03:40 PM
my girl has an extra ticket, so i may be at chase field tonight! holla!

bakersfield
07-23-2008, 03:49 PM
my girl has an extra ticket, so i may be at chase field tonight! holla!

Bring a broom...cuz we are set to sweep da Cubs!

bakersfield
07-23-2008, 10:25 PM
That sweep certainly didn't happen. Bullpen still struggles.
But at least we are starting to hit the ball.

Mr. Dylanja
07-23-2008, 10:42 PM
We really blew it when Connor was on 3rd tonight.

This is unrelated, but I really don't like our 3rd base coach. Chip Hale right? I'm not an expert by any means but it seems he doesn't have a good feel for our players in general, let alone the situation dictating.

bakersfield
07-23-2008, 10:54 PM
This is unrelated, but I really don't like our 3rd base coach. Chip Hale right? I'm not an expert by any means but it seems he doesn't have a good feel for our players in general, let alone the situation dictating.

I agree.
He was the Tucson manager when they won the Triple A championship. He is supposedly a great baseball mind, but his instincts at 3rd are all wrong. Reminds my of Eddie Rodriguez a few years back.

Mr. Dylanja
07-25-2008, 06:53 PM
This is what I'm talkin about up 5-0 after an inning and a half! With one of our TWO aces on the mound, about time we helped them out.....

Stephen Drew has been a beast at the plate lately, good for him.


Didn't somebody mention something about them heating up soon???

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 06:56 PM
5-0 against the SF Giants is nice, but should be tempered with the realism that the Giants are 2nd to last in the N.L. West. This is a team going nowhere and not a team the D'Backs is likely to face in the postseason. Providing they manage to hold on to the Division lead.

Newro7ic
07-25-2008, 07:06 PM
Angels win again, even after K-Rod almost blew it. Hot Hot Hot.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 07:08 PM
Calm down. It's against the Worst team in the A.L. East :)

TomAz
07-25-2008, 09:45 PM
Calm down. it's only a message board.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 10:11 PM
Calm down. it's only a message board.

What are you talking about? There is not one ounce of excitement in the reply.

TomAz
07-25-2008, 10:17 PM
maybe not, but there are several ounces of negative nancyism and betty buzzkilliment.

Hopeless Semantic
07-25-2008, 10:23 PM
Yeah, I'll admit to a little buzzkill, but with New it is a personal jab so I'll cop to the previous post prior to that one.

TomAz
07-25-2008, 10:38 PM
I like beer. Do you like beer? I do.

Mr. Dylanja
07-26-2008, 12:38 AM
Attaboy Tommy!!

Hopeless Semantic
07-26-2008, 10:37 AM
Blah Blah Blah.

Edit: Xavier Nady and Marte go from the Pirates to the Yankees in a last minute trade. How low can you go, Pittsburgh? How long does a rebuilding process take? 15 year losing season streak is really indicative of how your once proud franchise has turn to shit. Way to piss on the graves of Roberto Clemente and Willy Stargell...Not to mention Andy Van Slyke's rolling over in his grave...

humanoid
07-26-2008, 11:14 AM
/\ Andy Van Slyke would be very upset to find out that you've buried him prematurely

Mr. Dylanja
07-26-2008, 11:16 AM
When I wne to Wrigley Andy Van Slyke hit a Grand Slam, that's all I remember I was soo young.

bakersfield
07-26-2008, 02:27 PM
Yankees are coming on strong...FAST!
You gotta be happy with that Humanoid!

bakersfield
07-26-2008, 02:28 PM
I like beer. Do you like beer? I do.

I LOVE it!
Drinking one right now...in Idaho (of all places!).....

bluemamba
07-26-2008, 03:15 PM
Yankees will make the playoffs.

Hopeless Semantic
07-26-2008, 03:49 PM
/\ Andy Van Slyke would be very upset to find out that you've buried him prematurely

I know he's still alive, humanoid, I was just being coy. :)

bakersfield
07-26-2008, 06:41 PM
Who will win the Cy Young?
Webb or Haren?

jazzz
07-26-2008, 07:06 PM
Angels will win the World Series in 5 games. Go Halos!

humanoid
07-26-2008, 10:00 PM
I know he's still alive, humanoid, I was just being coy. :)

it was funny, because although I knew he was alive, I had to go check to make sure I didn't miss something!

humanoid
07-26-2008, 10:01 PM
Yankees are coming on strong...FAST!
You gotta be happy with that Humanoid!

absolutely loving it!

bakersfield
07-28-2008, 09:45 PM
The talk is that Owings may be part of a deal for Teixera.
But after the way Micah has pitched lately, I can't see the Braves wanting him! He has lost 7 straight decisions & also loked bad in relief last week....
What do you do with him at this point?

zenidogx
07-28-2008, 10:00 PM
angels beat the bosox . . . again. maybe they could finally do it in the playoffs.

humanoid
07-28-2008, 10:55 PM
The talk is that Owings may be part of a deal for Teixera.
But after the way Micah has pitched lately, I can't see the Braves wanting him! He has lost 7 straight decisions & also loked bad in relief last week....
What do you do with him at this point?

maybe they want Owings for his bat... if they trade away Tex & now that Chipper is hurt, they're gonna need offense wherever they can get it!

humanoid
07-28-2008, 10:55 PM
angels beat the bosox . . . again. maybe they could finally do it in the playoffs.

love watching the Angels step up against Boston!

Newro7ic
07-29-2008, 09:36 AM
angels beat the bosox . . . again. maybe they could finally do it in the playoffs.

Boston has to make it to the playoffs, first. They have some competition over there.

Hopeless Semantic
07-29-2008, 02:12 PM
According to the L.A. Times...

The Angels have traded Casey Kotchman and a minor league prospect for Mark Texeira of the Atlanta Braves. This bolsters the Angels' power batting and without giving up any pitching or other bats. While this may have been a costly loss, (I would've given them Matthews Jr. or Rivera) it may be just the bat they need to go far in October.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-trade30-2008jul30,0,7826166.story

sbessiso
07-29-2008, 02:12 PM
I can't believe they traded Casey!

zenidogx
07-29-2008, 02:16 PM
what?!
kotchman's good. but so is texiera. i don't know how to feel.

Hopeless Semantic
07-29-2008, 02:20 PM
what?!
kotchman's good. but so is texiera. i don't know how to feel.

I thought they kinda gave up on Kotchman a tad bit too soon. Watch as he turns into something really legit and the Angels are stuck with Texeira and quite possibly w/o Vladimir Guerrero. However, I see them letting K-Rod walk, make Aredondo the full-time closer, and re-signing Vlade. If not, look for them to be a serious contender for Manny "Nutjob" Ramirez.

zenidogx
07-29-2008, 02:22 PM
iunno. they have the team to win it. the way they've been beating boston, they were solid. i guess texiera provides insurance in case GA stops hitting or gets injured.
K-Rod's arm is gonna explode. so keeping Aredondo is good. and shields could hold up a while longer.

Hopeless Semantic
07-29-2008, 02:31 PM
Boston is probably the team that is the biggest threat (A.L wise) to the Angels. But let's not forget the other Sox team which also plays the Angels tough and having power over their asimiliar team to the Angels, is vital. I don't know if Texeira will mean there is going to be more Rally Monkey sighting (God forbid), but it should legitimately make the Halos a bigtime player come Octobre.

zenidogx
07-29-2008, 02:34 PM
forgot about them White Sox
they meet towards the end of the season, though. see what happens.

Hopeless Semantic
07-29-2008, 02:37 PM
The key to the Angels' success imo, is the continued production from Saunders/Santana/Weaver. I know Lackey is going to be solid and he's been there before and Garland has won a World Series too, but the three that round out the rotation need to continue to come up big when the money is on the line. I feel Santana is slipping a little and when you say, "giving up 5 runs is a good outing..." I'm beginning to wonder if he's going to swoon for the remainder of his starts.

zenidogx
07-29-2008, 02:48 PM
santana is big worry.
Weaver is a competitor.

Lackey had a late start, so that works great.

Sushov23
07-29-2008, 03:19 PM
I'm a braves fan, and i am a bit upset about this move. However Casey has a huge upside, and is cheap so the braves are thinking to next year already.

humanoid
07-29-2008, 03:20 PM
santana is big worry.
Weaver is a competitor.

Lackey had a late start, so that works great.

Weaver is a competitor, but he still has Weaver genes, and that is worrisome

humanoid
07-29-2008, 03:22 PM
I'm a braves fan, and i am a bit upset about this move. However Casey has a huge upside, and is cheap so the braves are thinking to next year already.

I believe Kotchman is under contract for 3 more season...and very cheap, and only 25, pretty solid pickup

Hopeless Semantic
07-29-2008, 03:24 PM
24...actually lol like it makes a difference.

I had a class with Jered Weaver @ CSULB and he was a relatively quiet person and real nice. The coeds loved him though, and it just proves that being a star in the making = a lovely problem.

bakersfield
07-29-2008, 04:32 PM
Dbacks sent Micah Owings down to Triple A Tucson.

Newro7ic
07-29-2008, 05:08 PM
I'm about to jinx it, but John is currently pitching a no hitter.

Mr. Dylanja
07-29-2008, 05:10 PM
Micah needs some time to regroup, who'd we bring up to replace him?

zenidogx
07-29-2008, 08:27 PM
I'm about to jinx it, but John is currently pitching a no hitter.

ya blew it

jazzz
07-29-2008, 09:09 PM
sad to see Casey go but Texeira is a huge gain... I just hope we can lock him and Vlad up. If K-rod wants NY let em' go!

JSam67
07-29-2008, 09:12 PM
If the Angels weren't the team to beat, they certainly are now. I'd be upset if I was a Braves fan, not so much with this deal as the one last year to bring him in and help lead them to the playoffs. Expensive and unproductive 1-year rental. At least the Angels aren't paying an arm and a leg for him, and could actually sign him to a multi-year deal in the offseason.

boarderwoozel3
07-29-2008, 09:14 PM
I don't know about that. Vlad's numbers have been declining in recent years and k-rod has the best stuff of any closer out there. I think The Halos can get a better player for the cash they'd have to give Vlad. Either way The Angels really should keep k-rod around for as long as possible.

JSam67
07-29-2008, 09:18 PM
Agreed. It's better to have a dynamic closer than an aging slugger. I'm pretty sure the Brewers, Cards and Rays would be thrilled to have someone like K-Rod on their roster. Speaking of, why hasn't Fuentes been dealt to one of those teams, or the Rays? Rockies think they can win that joke of a division?

zenidogx
07-29-2008, 09:23 PM
vlad should stay. k-rod should go.
remember what happened to gagne. i fear k-rod will shut down within the next two years.
if the angels keep Texiera, he'll provide the numbers to keep the pressure off of the the combo of Vlad, GA, and Hunter.

bakersfield
07-29-2008, 09:26 PM
vlad should stay. k-rod should go.
remember what happened to gagne. i fear k-rod will shut down within the next two years.


I think K-Rod is the real deal & will not be another Gagne.
But dealing with closers is a huge risk. They can implode on you quickly & you do need a little magic from the crystal ball....

bakersfield
07-29-2008, 09:28 PM
Agreed. It's better to have a dynamic closer than an aging slugger. I'm pretty sure the Brewers, Cards and Rays would be thrilled to have someone like K-Rod on their roster. Speaking of, why hasn't Fuentes been dealt to one of those teams, or the Rays? Rockies think they can win that joke of a division?

I heard Tim K. from ESPN talking today, saying the Rockies will wait until the last day (Thursday) to make a call as to whether they think they are still in it or not & then act accordingly on Fuentes.

C DUB YA
07-29-2008, 09:33 PM
Who will win the Cy Young?
Webb or Haren?

neither

boarderwoozel3
07-29-2008, 09:36 PM
It's maddness to not re-sign K-rod! Don't take him for granted. There are only a handful of lights out closers and he's probably the best of the lot!

When Rob Nen's carrer came to an end because of an injury, shit hit the fan for the Giants' bullpen, it was the beginning if the end... Trust.

C DUB YA
07-29-2008, 09:40 PM
I'm a braves fan, and i am a bit upset about this move. However Casey has a huge upside, and is cheap so the braves are thinking to next year already.

Casey is decent and cheap, but losing Texiera is HUGE, your biggest production man gone... that is a devistating blow. Basically hammering the nail in on the Braves season in July. Ouch.

In other news, CUBBIES have owned the Brewers in the first two games of their critical (as much as it can be in July) series. Game 3 is on ESPN tomorrow (Wed) night. Dempster pitches for Chicago.

C DUB YA
07-29-2008, 09:42 PM
It's maddness to not re-sign K-rod! Don't take him for granted. There are only a handful of lights out closers and he's probably the best of the lot!

When Rob Nen's carrer came to an end because of an injury, shit hit the fan for the Giants' bullpen, it was the beginning if the end... Trust.

agreed on all accounts

boarderwoozel3
07-29-2008, 09:44 PM
Theres still two months left but at this point the contenders for NL Cy Young are: Lincecum, Volquez, Sheets, Webb, Haren

bakersfield
07-29-2008, 10:02 PM
neither

C DUB YA..who will win then...?

bakersfield
07-29-2008, 10:05 PM
Micah needs some time to regroup, who'd we bring up to replace him?

Reliever Jailen Peguero.
But Juan Cruz will be back from DL in a few days.

See that catch by Romero?
Game saver...that was sick!

jazzz
07-29-2008, 10:53 PM
I don't know about that. Vlad's numbers have been declining in recent years and k-rod has the best stuff of any closer out there. I think The Halos can get a better player for the cash they'd have to give Vlad. Either way The Angels really should keep k-rod around for as long as possible.

I would hate to see K-rod go BUT I think having great starting pitching with heavy bats we could get away with a good closer.... let K-rod go IF he demands Yankee money.

bakersfield
07-29-2008, 10:58 PM
See that catch by Romero?
Game saver...that was sick!

Number One Web Gem...BTW

zenidogx
07-30-2008, 07:44 PM
Angels sweep!

world champs. that's it. calling it.

bakersfield
07-30-2008, 08:01 PM
I am proud of the way the Dbacks are starting to play again.
They tweaked the bullpen & are hitting the ball well at key times.
Starters look great....
I am thinking the dog days of summer are behind us!

Mr. Dylanja
07-30-2008, 09:06 PM
I agree, let's just hope they don't slump again come playoff time.....

Altho, with our starters, it isn't go to take much, our team is built pretty damn good!

picks up chair
07-31-2008, 12:52 PM
Manny to the Dodgers pending approval. Do trades usually play right away? DBacks are in LA tonight. (Jason Bay to red sox, Hansen from boston and LaRoche from LA to Pirates). So far as I've read.

Mr. Dylanja
07-31-2008, 12:53 PM
No way, really?

I was JUST about to start talking trash to you Dodger fanboys too...

picks up chair
07-31-2008, 12:55 PM
whoops, I think they've already got this in the semi-thread, my bad....

downingthief
07-31-2008, 12:59 PM
That trade makes NO sense...Dodgers gave up nothing for one of the best hitters in baseball. I smell Shananigans!!

Newro7ic
07-31-2008, 01:16 PM
DBacks are in trouble. :)

marooko
07-31-2008, 01:54 PM
HEY

Down Rodeo
07-31-2008, 03:29 PM
D-Bags fans better watch out - Dodgers are winning the division now.

Mr. Dylanja
07-31-2008, 03:58 PM
Jesus H, these Dodger fans come out of the woodwork in a hurry!

Mr. Dylanja
07-31-2008, 11:20 PM
Whatta game, whatta game!!

What happened to all the Dodger posts?
(and no that doesn't mean you can start making excuses)


Baker- Who knew CoJack had a decent arm huh?


1 down, 3 to go....

bakersfield
08-01-2008, 06:41 AM
Whatta game, whatta game!!



Baker- Who knew CoJack had a decent arm huh?


1 down, 3 to go....

He sure couldn't throw when he was at 1st. :)
I like him in the outfield!

...and good tag by Snyder!

Good to see Lyon back on track too.

Cheddar's Cousin
08-01-2008, 08:20 AM
That trade makes NO sense...Dodgers gave up nothing for one of the best hitters in baseball. I smell Shananigans!!

And Shananigans smell deliscious!

Down Rodeo
08-01-2008, 11:43 AM
Close game last night. Should have been tied in the 8th but that was a great tag.

Just wait 'til Manny gets in the lineup.

Mr. Dylanja
08-01-2008, 09:32 PM
Looks like Tony Clark proved to be the better acquisition tonight!!



BITCHEZ!!!!!!!

Hopeless Semantic
08-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Still, I say fuck the Diamondback ;)

Because, betchez, the Angels are 69-40...

suck on that, bloo.

zenidogx
08-02-2008, 09:12 PM
have you guys seen Baseball Tonight's new "franchise player" thing?
havent they done this already? anyways, i voted on the Angels for Garret Anderson. very underrated career. had he been healthier in recent years, he'd be on pace for 3000 hits and the eventual Hall of Fame.

the Dodger's ballot doesn't include Fernando. i think that's bull. my family would have never liked baseball without Fernando.

Mr. Dylanja
08-03-2008, 11:38 PM
Well, I really wanted the series win but a tie is still better than losing. Fucking Manny just made this NL West race way closer than I wanted it to be, that's for sure.

Down Rodeo
08-04-2008, 01:34 AM
Yeah, 8 hits in his first 13 at-bats. This Manny trade is working out beautifully so far.

Hopeless Semantic
08-04-2008, 07:51 AM
have you guys seen Baseball Tonight's new "franchise player" thing?
havent they done this already? anyways, i voted on the Angels for Garret Anderson. very underrated career. had he been healthier in recent years, he'd be on pace for 3000 hits and the eventual Hall of Fame.

the Dodger's ballot doesn't include Fernando. i think that's bull. my family would have never liked baseball without Fernando.

GA was the sole reason the Angels won their only title in '02. He came up huge in Game 7 and at other times during that series. He has been the consumate teammate and an underappreciated hitter for the Halos. The guy doesn't cause drama and he goes about doing his job. I know he used to catch a ton of gruff for looking disinterested and aloof, but the guy hits like a machine and will always be remembered in Angel lore. After all, there isn't many players you can name off the Angels that are remembered profoundly--for the right reason, that is. Nolan Ryan, Frank Tanana, and maybe Reggie Jackson...

bluemamba
08-04-2008, 02:15 PM
Wait a min..... GA did a good job but he didnt do it alone and he wasnt the sole reason they won the title that year. Your forgetting about troy glaus and all those Home Runs he hit.... Not to mention Francisco Rodriguez..... if i remember correctly he set a record for most wins in a post season. He was a key reliever... and again if im not mistaken Troy Glaus tied the record for most HR in a post season... and Washburn and Lackey were also money for them... Not to mention Eckstein.

humanoid
08-04-2008, 11:37 PM
Wait a min..... GA did a good job but he didnt do it alone and he wasnt the sole reason they won the title that year. Your forgetting about troy glaus and all those Home Runs he hit.... Not to mention Francisco Rodriguez..... if i remember correctly he set a record for most wins in a post season. He was a key reliever... and again if im not mistaken Troy Glaus tied the record for most HR in a post season... and Washburn and Lackey were also money for them... Not to mention Eckstein.

let us also not forget that Scott Spiezio set a record for most RBI's in a postseason that year with 19(hugely important I might think)....I'm not an Angels fan, but that was a hell of a team effort....I don't think any one player stood out and that's what contributed to their success....great team ball, and they all were hot at the right time

Newro7ic
08-05-2008, 08:52 AM
Wait a min..... GA did a good job but he didnt do it alone and he wasnt the sole reason they won the title that year. Your forgetting about troy glaus and all those Home Runs he hit.... Not to mention Francisco Rodriguez..... if i remember correctly he set a record for most wins in a post season. He was a key reliever... and again if im not mistaken Troy Glaus tied the record for most HR in a post season... and Washburn and Lackey were also money for them... Not to mention Eckstein.

Troy Glaus broke the record, and then Barry Bonds broke it right after him. Barry Bonds ended up with the record in the end, but we ended up with the title. Barry being the player he is, probably cared more about that stupid record.


let us also not forget that Scott Spiezio set a record for most RBI's in a postseason that year with 19(hugely important I might think)....I'm not an Angels fan, but that was a hell of a team effort....I don't think any one player stood out and that's what contributed to their success....great team ball, and they all were hot at the right time

The most important of those were the 3 that got us back into game 6 when it was looking like all hope was lost. Then Troy Gaus picked up the rest that we needed with his double off the right-center field wall, if my memory servers me correctly.

GA has been doing it for years, but he was not as instrumental in that series when as HS would like everyone to believe. He has been a strong center piece for the team, though, and that can help just as much as any stat.

Mr. Dylanja
08-05-2008, 04:15 PM
Danny Haren locked up, luv it!

humanoid
08-06-2008, 10:50 AM
Danny Haren locked up, luv it!

great move, that guy is a stud

bakersfield
08-06-2008, 02:05 PM
great move, that guy is a stud

Now the Webb deal needs to get done.

zenidogx
08-06-2008, 02:38 PM
ive been seeing segments on espn about giambi's 'stache.
why the fuck are they giving him attention? he admitted to being a cheater. he's just as bad, actually worse, then those who deny it.:2c

humanoid
08-07-2008, 05:06 AM
/\ what makes Giambi worse than than those who deny steroid use?

zenidogx
08-07-2008, 06:39 AM
what makes giambi worse is that he admitted to using, but has done so in a way that mlb gives him an easy ride. he's pretty much saying "i want your forgiveness and deserve it for helping out with any investigations."
maybe he's no worse, maybe mlb's just being too damn weak on the issue.

Hopeless Semantic
08-07-2008, 07:53 AM
GA has been doing it for years, but he was not as instrumental in that series when as HS would like everyone to believe. He has been a strong center piece for the team, though, and that can help just as much as any stat.

What I failed to mention in the post a few days back, was that GA took a paycut to remain in Anaheim and allow the Angels to give Glaus an extension on his contract. Without the Glausman, I don't think the WS run is possible. I know he wasn't the sole reason they won, but as integral a part of the playoff run and outcome.

humanoid
08-07-2008, 08:33 AM
what makes giambi worse is that he admitted to using, but has done so in a way that mlb gives him an easy ride. he's pretty much saying "i want your forgiveness and deserve it for helping out with any investigations."
maybe he's no worse, maybe mlb's just being too damn weak on the issue.

I can see what you're getting at, but I don't want to try and put words in his mouth, or assume what he might be saying or thinking

personally, I am more irritated by the guys who didn't get caught, but miraculously had huge dropoffs in production, yet the media and announcers refuse to talk about the probable reason why. It bugs me a lot when people act as if the Mitchell Report really did much about catching guys, when it was an investigation centered around only 2 sources. There is a reason that Major Leaguers collectively hit 500 less home runs in 2007 than in 2006 and are on pace for even less this year...early this season, they were on pace for another 500 less this year, than in 2007...which means 1,000 less than in 2006...my point is, as much as I hate to say it, I think those crazy sounding numbers of 50-80% that guys like Canseco and Caminiti threw out there may have been accurate after all. I think most of them were cheating in some fashion.

zenidogx
08-07-2008, 08:35 AM
i assume the worst from giambi. i've always thought he was a douchebag.

bakersfield
08-07-2008, 07:56 PM
i assume the worst from giambi. i've always thought he was a douchebag.

I just flew back from the east coast, which gave me the opportunity to read "Game of Shadows".
Amazing account of all the cheating that went on in baseball & track & field.
Anyone else on here read that?

boarderwoozel3
08-07-2008, 08:07 PM
Yeah, 8 hits in his first 13 at-bats. This Manny trade is working out beautifully so far.

So I'm a huge Giants fan.

I left my apartment for Lolla two hours before the trade deadline ended on Friday and wasn't in touch with the world until Monday morning at about 10:30 am when I picked up a USA Today at the Chicago Midway airport. I was appalled seeing front page of the sports section and at the top of the page was a picture of Man-Fucking-Ram wearing 99 for the fucking Dodgers.

My reaction? A stream of louder-than-should-have-been-considering-I'm-in-public expletives. I literally called family and a few friends to confirm this wasn't some sick joke...

Seriously, the only thing worse than Manny going to the fucking Dodgers is finding out about it like that... ouch.

humanoid
08-08-2008, 08:44 AM
I just flew back from the east coast, which gave me the opportunity to read "Game of Shadows".
Amazing account of all the cheating that went on in baseball & track & field.
Anyone else on here read that?

I've wanted to read it, but haven't gotten around to it yet. I think I'm subconsciously very sick of the entire steroid issue. I may read it one day, but there are way too many other things on my list waiting to be read first.

downingthief
08-08-2008, 02:50 PM
Just scored a ticket to hang out at the pool in Chase Field for tonight's game. I rule.

Cheddar's Cousin
08-09-2008, 07:53 AM
So I'm a huge Giants fan.

I left my apartment for Lolla two hours before the trade deadline ended on Friday and wasn't in touch with the world until Monday morning at about 10:30 am when I picked up a USA Today at the Chicago Midway airport. I was appalled seeing front page of the sports section and at the top of the page was a picture of Man-Fucking-Ram wearing 99 for the fucking Dodgers.

My reaction? A stream of louder-than-should-have-been-considering-I'm-in-public expletives. I literally called family and a few friends to confirm this wasn't some sick joke...

Seriously, the only thing worse than Manny going to the fucking Dodgers is finding out about it like that... ouch.


It's not like the Giants had a chance anyway...

bakersfield
08-09-2008, 08:33 AM
I've wanted to read it, but haven't gotten around to it yet. I think I'm subconsciously very sick of the entire steroid issue. I may read it one day, but there are way too many other things on my list waiting to be read first.

That is how I was. Kept putting it off because I don't think I really wanted to know more.
But I just grabbed it from my closet before the flight & then I could not put the damn thing down!
The track & field part of the story was pretty fascinating too.....

bakersfield
08-09-2008, 08:35 AM
Just scored a ticket to hang out at the pool in Chase Field for tonight's game. I rule.

Wow..at the pool! Lucky you!
Did you have a good time?
Too bad it was a crappy game!

downingthief
08-09-2008, 01:06 PM
Wow..at the pool! Lucky you!
Did you have a good time?
Too bad it was a crappy game!

Yeah it was a blast, despite the end result. D-backs need to turn it around, and fast.

fatbastard
08-09-2008, 01:23 PM
Start counting them. Issues? LA loves issues.
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080807/capt.ef28f995efae4abbb51b32437e6bfde0.dodgers_card inals_baseball_moke109.jpg

suprefan
08-09-2008, 03:04 PM
Yes, yes we do, Henry, did you get that stuff youw ere supposed to totdya? And yeah we need to go to a game

fatbastard
08-09-2008, 04:14 PM
Manhatten Beach-Done
Hermosa Beach-Done
Dry Cleaning-Done
Radiohead tickets from PO Box-Done
Flight for Outside Lands-Done

Ticket for Outside Lands-Not done
Car wash-Not done

bakersfield
08-09-2008, 06:46 PM
Fucking Dbacks!

bakersfield
08-09-2008, 07:21 PM
I bet O-dog broke his wrist

Geno_g
08-10-2008, 12:42 AM
Saw the Giants vs. Dodgers tonight, 24 row behind homeplate, got to see Manny, and the Giants won...

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bakersfield
08-10-2008, 08:23 AM
I bet O-dog broke his wrist

Yep...Hudson out for the season

bluemamba
08-10-2008, 09:44 AM
So I'm a huge Giants fan.

I left my apartment for Lolla two hours before the trade deadline ended on Friday and wasn't in touch with the world until Monday morning at about 10:30 am when I picked up a USA Today at the Chicago Midway airport. I was appalled seeing front page of the sports section and at the top of the page was a picture of Man-Fucking-Ram wearing 99 for the fucking Dodgers.

My reaction? A stream of louder-than-should-have-been-considering-I'm-in-public expletives. I literally called family and a few friends to confirm this wasn't some sick joke...

Seriously, the only thing worse than Manny going to the fucking Dodgers is finding out about it like that... ouch.

I LOVE IT!!!

Down Rodeo
08-10-2008, 03:44 PM
Oh my God, Dodgers closers are killing me! I fucking hate the Giants even more right now.

Mr. Dylanja
08-11-2008, 07:15 AM
Yep...Hudson out for the season



SO BRUTAL!! Especially since the Bonafacio is now gone....



"AUGIE AUGIE AUGIE OY OY OY!!!"

downingthief
08-11-2008, 11:07 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3529966

The Arizona Diamondbacks added a big bat Monday in their attempt to hold off the Los Angeles Dodgers in the NL West race.





Arizona acquired Cincinnati Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, who is tied for the major league lead with 32 home runs, for three prospects.

The trade was first reported by KTAR Radio in Phoenix.

In exchange for Dunn, Cincinnati will receive minor league pitcher Dallas Buck and two other players to be named later.

Buck got a call from D-backs farm director A.J. Hinch, telling him he had been traded for Dunn. Buck, who was traveling with the Single-A Visalia Oaks, was already on the bus to San Jose, Calif., when Hinch called him. He had to tell teammates of the trade en route.

"It was kind of funny," Buck said, "because I was rumored to be in a deal for [Mark] Teixeira, so when I just told them they all thought I was messing with them."

Buck was drafted by Arizona in the third round of the 2006 draft. Once a top-notch prospect, Buck's draft status fell after an elbow injury revealed on the eve of the '06 draft bumped him out of a likely first-round slot. He had Tommy John surgery last summer and had begun pitching in Single-A this summer.

Dunn is tied with the Phillies' Ryan Howard for the NL lead with his 32 homers. The White Sox's Carlos Quentin also has 32 home runs.

The Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers by 1 games in the NL West standings.


Things just got a bit more interesting...

bakersfield
08-11-2008, 11:46 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3529966

The Arizona Diamondbacks added a big bat Monday in their attempt to hold off the Los Angeles Dodgers in the NL West race.





Arizona acquired Cincinnati Reds outfielder Adam Dunn, who is tied for the major league lead with 32 home runs, for three prospects.

The trade was first reported by KTAR Radio in Phoenix.

In exchange for Dunn, Cincinnati will receive minor league pitcher Dallas Buck and two other players to be named later.

Buck got a call from D-backs farm director A.J. Hinch, telling him he had been traded for Dunn. Buck, who was traveling with the Single-A Visalia Oaks, was already on the bus to San Jose, Calif., when Hinch called him. He had to tell teammates of the trade en route.

"It was kind of funny," Buck said, "because I was rumored to be in a deal for [Mark] Teixeira, so when I just told them they all thought I was messing with them."

Buck was drafted by Arizona in the third round of the 2006 draft. Once a top-notch prospect, Buck's draft status fell after an elbow injury revealed on the eve of the '06 draft bumped him out of a likely first-round slot. He had Tommy John surgery last summer and had begun pitching in Single-A this summer.

Dunn is tied with the Phillies' Ryan Howard for the NL lead with his 32 homers. The White Sox's Carlos Quentin also has 32 home runs.

The Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers by 1 games in the NL West standings.


Things just got a bit more interesting...

I like it!

roberto73
08-11-2008, 01:33 PM
You like it now. Just wait until you watch him play. Outfield mistakes and an abundance of strikeouts are in your future. He hits a lot of home runs, too, but that's about all he's good for. He's one of the reasons being a Reds fan has been so hard in recent years.

downingthief
08-11-2008, 01:35 PM
Being D-Backs fans, we are already used to fielding errors, and strikeouts. He will fit right in.

bakersfield
08-11-2008, 01:53 PM
Being D-Backs fans, we are already used to fielding errors, and strikeouts. He will fit right in.

Indeed he will :)

I think I like it, but....I have no idea really yet what to think of it....I guess we will wait & see. My initial thought is that losing Hudson for the year is an awful blow. Maybe Dunn's bat will help the pain of that...??? Maybe....

downingthief
08-11-2008, 02:13 PM
It's a great fit. They really didn't give up much at all for him. He had no protection in the lineup at Cincy. Now, he comes to AZ. I imagine him hitting 4th, behind Conor Jackson, and just ahead of Mark Reynolds. CJ should get plenty to hit now. Only scary thing in that scenario is both Dunn and MR strike out a ton. BUT, it stands to reason that they will both see some better pitches now.

Other thing is what do they do with Upton? Dunn plays LF, which is where CJ plays currently. Do they move Dunn to right? What of Upton, then? Some interesting choices for Melvin to make. Dunn hits about .60 points higher against righties, so that will come into play, I am sure.

Mr. Dylanja
08-11-2008, 02:25 PM
Dunn also draws a lot of walks too, I think he's top ten in OBP.


Idk about the outfield tho, I thought Upton was close to coming back...

bakersfield
08-11-2008, 09:19 PM
I heard an interesting thought on Gambo & Ash today.
Dunn in left
Upton in right
Tracy at 3rd,
Jackson at 1st
Reynolds at 2nd.....

malcolmjamalawesome
08-11-2008, 09:38 PM
FUKUDOME

Mr. Dylanja
08-11-2008, 09:51 PM
Anybody catch Manny's dumb ass disappear, then run back out to left while zipping his fly and buttoning his shirt? Whatta douche!

bakersfield
08-12-2008, 03:23 PM
Anybody catch Manny's dumb ass disappear, then run back out to left while zipping his fly and buttoning his shirt? Whatta douche!

That was REALLY,REALLY funny!

Mr. Dylanja
08-13-2008, 04:03 PM
Double D needs to step it up tonight...

CuervoPH
08-13-2008, 09:26 PM
I have to hand it to you, Nomar. If you're only gonna get one hit since your return from the DL, you picked a good one to get. It'd still be sweet if I didn't work for a Phillies fan, but that makes it that much better.

boarderwoozel3
08-13-2008, 09:54 PM
It's not like the Giants had a chance anyway...

True, but thats not the point.

We'd better open our wallets and get some offense this offseason... and hire someone to kill Barry Zito...

Mr. Dylanja
08-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Bakersfield- Do you know who the other play besides Micah was in the Dunn deal? Besides Buck too.

Also, how do you like the trade?

bakersfield
08-14-2008, 05:33 PM
Bakersfield- Do you know who the other play besides Micah was in the Dunn deal? Besides Buck too.

Also, how do you like the trade?

No, I do not think they named the 3rd guy yet.

I am ok with the trade. I think it makes the team stronger & it proves they are willing to win now.
I was big on Micah, but he had struggled so badly lately......
Good to see the club winning some games this week!

I have my fantasy football draft on Sunday....can't wait for that!

Mr. Dylanja
08-14-2008, 05:38 PM
I have my fantasy football draft on Sunday....can't wait for that!


Nice! I have two next weekend I've been preparing big time. I really don't know why because in the end it's all a crap shoot, your guys have to stay healthy to have any sort of shot. I've learned that the hard way the past couple years.

roberto73
08-14-2008, 05:41 PM
The Reds have only confirmed Buck and, today, Wilkin Castillo. Owings' name is being bandied about, but his injured status is complicating things.

bakersfield
08-14-2008, 10:20 PM
Nice! I have two next weekend I've been preparing big time. I really don't know why because in the end it's all a crap shoot, your guys have to stay healthy to have any sort of shot. I've learned that the hard way the past couple years.

Dodgers are sure playing good ball.
That Manny trade was huge for them thus far...


You like Westbrook or Peterson at #2?

bakersfield
08-14-2008, 10:24 PM
The Reds have only confirmed Buck and, today, Wilkin Castillo. Owings' name is being bandied about, but his injured status is complicating things.

I guess he still has not cleared waivers.
I enjoyed Micah when he pitched AND hit well.
But you gotta give to get....

Mr. Dylanja
08-14-2008, 11:37 PM
Manny's #'s are INSANE since the trade.

bluemamba
08-15-2008, 09:27 AM
MANNY!!! MANNY!!!! MANNY!!!!

Dude is earning his money out here. Andrew Jones should take notes.

Cheddar's Cousin
08-15-2008, 12:07 PM
Andruw Jones should take his money and stay home.

Man-Ram, Pierre, Kemp and Ethier got it locked up.

paulb
08-15-2008, 01:57 PM
Xavier Nady is doing amazing with the Yankees...that guy was an amazing pick up.... They released Richie Sexson... and sent Melky to the minors.... Yankees really need to do something to get back in this race... 9.5 games behind is really embarrassing.

Mr. Dylanja
08-15-2008, 05:58 PM
It hasn't been Dunn but the sticks have been warming up again! Drews been great at the leadoff spot...



LETS GO BREW CREW!!!

bakersfield
08-15-2008, 10:19 PM
I agree, great to see the hitting again!

humanoid
08-15-2008, 11:22 PM
Xavier Nady is doing amazing with the Yankees...that guy was an amazing pick up.... They released Richie Sexson... and sent Melky to the minors.... Yankees really need to do something to get back in this race... 9.5 games behind is really embarrassing.

Nady was a great pickup, he plays hard and has been hitting the hell out of the ball...unlike most of the rest of the lineup

At the time, I liked the Sexson pickup...low risk move that could have paid dividends, but he has so many holes in his swing...he looks like the easiest hitter in MLB to setup for a K

As for Melky, I am not ready to give up on him yet, as he is only 23 and still developing...he looked like he was making strides early in the season, but he took about 10 steps backward over the last few months...he has been such an easy out, that he should have been demoted a while ago..

Unfortunately, our only options at the moment are Gardiner & Christian...Gardiner is fast, and a decent outfielder, but at the plate, he either strikes out looking or pops out, not what you want out of a speedster...maybe with a little regular playing time, he can start to look like a big leaguer.

I was there is Anaheim to see the Yanks get swept by the Angels, and it was sickening...I expected them to turn it around after that, but the Twins made them look terrible again, and now they couldn't beat KC in NY...fairly pathetic performance in that game as well

unfortunately, I think this year is over...I hate to give up, because that's not in my nature, and they still have plenty of talent to make a run, but it is becoming extremely less likely by the minute...Injuries play a huge part in it, as they have had some devastating ones, but the fire doesn't look like its there in half the lineup...Damon has helped carry the offense all year...It hurts me to say it, as he is my favorite player, but Jeter looks like his head is not in it fully. He has made many more mental and fundamental mistakes than I have seen in his entire career. I'm betting on him finishing the year strongly though, as I know he doesn't want to miss the playoffs for the first time in his career. Abreu has been very solid and clutch this season. i feel he is extremely underrated by Yankees fans. Arod has decent #'s, but his clutch production is horrible again this season. I hate to harp on the guy, because he is great, but the standard complaint about him padding stats in meaningless situations is true again this season. No one is perfect, and in baseball, you can't expect anyone to be great all the time, but unfortunately when you're making $30 million a year, the expectations are always going to be sky high. Giambi has always been streaky, but right now he looks dead. At least even when struggling, he still works counts and has good AB's, but his RISP and clutch #'s are absolutely atrocious! I really like Cano, but he needs to pull his head out of his ass and hustle a bit, rather than trying so hard to look cool and unaffected by everything. He is quickly gaining a reputation as a lazy player, and that is sad for someone so ridiculously talented. The catching situation is difficult, as Molina has been phenomenal behind the dish, but he is not a major league caliber hitter. He is perfect as a backup, but when forced into regular action, his weaknesses are exposed.

I'm just curious how long the coaching staff has before a few of them get fired. It's unfortunate that they will take the blame, as they're not playing, but I feel they are highly responsible for fixing a lack of effort or concentration, which the Yanks have exhibited plenty of this year. Kevin Long, the hitting coach, can't be feeling too comfortable these days.

Maybe they will pull a miracle out of their collective asses, but I would almost rather see them miss the playoffs than limp into a Wild Card spot, only to be destroyed by the Angels in the first round

Too bad this is the final season of Yankee Stadium, it deserved much better than this.

bakersfield
08-15-2008, 11:33 PM
The game tonight had to frustrate the hell out of you, Humanoid.
Mariano gives up go ahead run in top of 9th.
Leadoff batter gets on in bottom of 9th. Christian then gets picked off!!
Abreau grounds out.
THEN they load the bases with 2 outs, only to have Giambi fly out.
Typical of the year!

paulb
08-15-2008, 11:38 PM
I agree with everything you said...them losing today, putting them 10.5 back from TB was the last game they could give up. They are done for the season. I hate to say that, and hope they do start winning, and get back in the mix of things, but as a Yankee fan, you dont hope for the Wild Card, its division or nothing. Getting rid of Torre I dont think was a good move at all. Injuries did really affect us. Imagine if Philip Hughes performed to his full potential and Chien Ming Wang didnt fuck up his foot, Matsui out, Posada out, Joba out for a bit, Arod out for 3 weeks... Its all fairly dissapointing... I personally think its the bullpen.... they blew ALOT of games this season, we need a better set up man for Rivera... Joba was where it was at last season as our 7th and 8th inning pitcher.... Who would have guessed Mike Mussina being the best pitcher for the Yankees this season? Im really proud of him. Ill never give up on the Yanks, keep Nady, that is a positive for the team. Getting rid of Sexson was smart...and Melky was great last season, not so great this year, but many players are like that. I know he'll be back.

bakersfield
08-16-2008, 12:37 PM
And again....
perfect chance for Yanks to win in bottom of the 9th, but Jeter hits into double play.
Off to extra innings we go.....

brando4n82
08-16-2008, 12:42 PM
Been talking a lot about the woeful Diamondback offense on the Phoenix thread. We are boring some people over there.
So here is a thread to talk about our D'backs & all things baseball.

Ummm.... GO DODGERS!!!

bluemamba
08-16-2008, 02:10 PM
Nady was a great pickup, he plays hard and has been hitting the hell out of the ball...unlike most of the rest of the lineup

At the time, I liked the Sexson pickup...low risk move that could have paid dividends, but he has so many holes in his swing...he looks like the easiest hitter in MLB to setup for a K

As for Melky, I am not ready to give up on him yet, as he is only 23 and still developing...he looked like he was making strides early in the season, but he took about 10 steps backward over the last few months...he has been such an easy out, that he should have been demoted a while ago..

Unfortunately, our only options at the moment are Gardiner & Christian...Gardiner is fast, and a decent outfielder, but at the plate, he either strikes out looking or pops out, not what you want out of a speedster...maybe with a little regular playing time, he can start to look like a big leaguer.

I was there is Anaheim to see the Yanks get swept by the Angels, and it was sickening...I expected them to turn it around after that, but the Twins made them look terrible again, and now they couldn't beat KC in NY...fairly pathetic performance in that game as well

unfortunately, I think this year is over...I hate to give up, because that's not in my nature, and they still have plenty of talent to make a run, but it is becoming extremely less likely by the minute...Injuries play a huge part in it, as they have had some devastating ones, but the fire doesn't look like its there in half the lineup...Damon has helped carry the offense all year...It hurts me to say it, as he is my favorite player, but Jeter looks like his head is not in it fully. He has made many more mental and fundamental mistakes than I have seen in his entire career. I'm betting on him finishing the year strongly though, as I know he doesn't want to miss the playoffs for the first time in his career. Abreu has been very solid and clutch this season. i feel he is extremely underrated by Yankees fans. Arod has decent #'s, but his clutch production is horrible again this season. I hate to harp on the guy, because he is great, but the standard complaint about him padding stats in meaningless situations is true again this season. No one is perfect, and in baseball, you can't expect anyone to be great all the time, but unfortunately when you're making $30 million a year, the expectations are always going to be sky high. Giambi has always been streaky, but right now he looks dead. At least even when struggling, he still works counts and has good AB's, but his RISP and clutch #'s are absolutely atrocious! I really like Cano, but he needs to pull his head out of his ass and hustle a bit, rather than trying so hard to look cool and unaffected by everything. He is quickly gaining a reputation as a lazy player, and that is sad for someone so ridiculously talented. The catching situation is difficult, as Molina has been phenomenal behind the dish, but he is not a major league caliber hitter. He is perfect as a backup, but when forced into regular action, his weaknesses are exposed.

I'm just curious how long the coaching staff has before a few of them get fired. It's unfortunate that they will take the blame, as they're not playing, but I feel they are highly responsible for fixing a lack of effort or concentration, which the Yanks have exhibited plenty of this year. Kevin Long, the hitting coach, can't be feeling too comfortable these days.

Maybe they will pull a miracle out of their collective asses, but I would almost rather see them miss the playoffs than limp into a Wild Card spot, only to be destroyed by the Angels in the first round

Too bad this is the final season of Yankee Stadium, it deserved much better than this.

I second that whole thing. Its truly sad what has happend to the yanks this season. They should try and dump a lot of their useless contracts. Posada doesnt cut it anymore. Rivera is getting old. Mussina cant do this forever. Pavano is always hurt. Some of these players are getting paid so much that it doesnt matter to them if they make the playoffs anymore. It seems they have lost their passion.

bakersfield
08-16-2008, 04:13 PM
MrD.....after half a week, I can say I really like the Dunn trade

bluemamba
08-16-2008, 04:21 PM
Not as much as a Dodger fan is loving the Many trade

Mr. Dylanja
08-16-2008, 05:41 PM
MrD.....after half a week, I can say I really like the Dunn trade

YES!! 2 for 1 Grand Salami sandwiches down in Houston today!!

bakersfield
08-16-2008, 05:52 PM
YES!! 2 for 1 Grand Salami sandwiches down in Houston today!!

Great to see this explosion D!
How about the #5 starter pitching so well too!?

paulb
08-16-2008, 07:30 PM
Thank god Yanks won today in extras.... now if only Tampa Bay can start losing....

humanoid
08-17-2008, 12:33 AM
/\ seriously...they tried so hard to not win that game, repeatedly leaving multiple men on base and grounding into double play after double play...I kinda think they are going to jump on KC tomorrow, they're due to kick someone's ass

bakersfield
08-17-2008, 05:59 PM
/.I kinda think they are going to jump on KC tomorrow, they're due to kick someone's ass

You called that!

paulb
08-17-2008, 09:05 PM
Really called that... thank you. Giambi grand slam.... not like yesterday which was awful.

humanoid
08-17-2008, 11:16 PM
Glad to see my vision was correct! Hopefully they can build on it and keep up the confidence now that they're going back on the road to Tor and Balt...those teams can be beat, but the Orioles have been tough on the Yanks so far this year & they have to face Burnettt & Halladay in Toronto, both of whom give the Yankees serious trouble...plus, they really need to be able to beat the Jays, they still play them 9 times

I know it will be difficult for them to get to the playoffs this year, but it's definitely not impossible...a lot of things will have to go right, but they've looked done and surprised me before

I just really want to see them finish with some fight and make a serious run in this final 6 weeks. If they bust their asses, and don't make it, so be it

I don't think Jeter will let them give up. People question his leadership sometimes, because he is not vocal, but I think he is a "lead by example type" Things are getting desperate now, and suddenly he is hitting like crazy in the last few days. I don't think he wants to miss the playoffs for the first time in his career.

Either way, I just want to see some great baseball...I love the pennant stretch so much!

paulb
08-17-2008, 11:17 PM
and Matsui is back on Tuesday..... that is great news....

humanoid
08-17-2008, 11:25 PM
/\ yeah, thrilled to have him back, he is always dependable run producer, and has come up clutch most of his career

I'm trying to figure out how they're going to balance the playing time...I guess Damon will probably play CF a lot more, since Melky is down, that way they can keep Matsui DHing to go easy on his knee...they'll just have to deal with Damon's sissy arm in center, but with Nady, Abreu & Damon, its a pretty productive OF, and with Matsui back, I would expect the lineup to receive a boost and be hot for a while

Hopefully Joba will be back soon, and Hughes is supposed to start this week, I think Friday against Baltimore...Hughes struggled early this year, but I still think the kid can be really good, people have been a little harsh on him, he only turned 22 in June

boarderwoozel3
08-17-2008, 11:45 PM
The Yankees don't have the pitching to make the post season.

paulb
08-17-2008, 11:52 PM
i cant wait till Roy Halladay is a free agent

boarderwoozel3
08-17-2008, 11:58 PM
Yeah, I see the Yanks going after CC with all they've got in the off season.

bluemamba
08-18-2008, 12:01 AM
The Yankees don't have the pitching to make the post season.

Sad to say it but the Yanks season is over. I really is that simple. They dont have pitching. Nuff said.


i cant wait till Roy Halladay is a free agent

So he can get hurt in the first month of the season.

paulb
08-18-2008, 12:08 AM
Better than mid season during Interleague play running the bases...

humanoid
08-18-2008, 01:31 PM
The Yankees don't have the pitching to make the post season.

most likely not, but I'm not willing to give up yet...that's no fun

bluemamba
08-18-2008, 01:33 PM
most likely not, but I'm not willing to give up yet...that's no fun

Just let it burn.

C DUB YA
08-18-2008, 01:35 PM
The Yankees?

Hmmmmm?

Yeah besides from being done this season - they have shown how to spend a shitload of money and get nothing in return, I for one, love that shit.

They should try building the farm system up a bit, instead of showing up to ever free agent party when times get a little tough.

Sorry to say Yank fans... but the Rays story this year is EVERYTHING good about baseball, and the Yankees continually trying to snap up every superstar, year in-year out, is what is bad.

bluemamba
08-18-2008, 01:46 PM
Sorry to say Yank fans... but the Rays story this year is EVERYTHING good about baseball, and the Yankees continually trying to snap up every superstar, year in-year out, is what is bad.


Its not that bad. Its good that the yanks are not cheap at least. Dont you hate it when your favorite team doesnt get a good free agent because it didnt want the shell out a couple of extra mill?? Yanks have spent too much money though and have gotten nothing in return but other than this year at least have made a run at the chip. a short run but a run.

C DUB YA
08-18-2008, 02:08 PM
No I prefer a team that pays for pieces to a puzzle and makes a team that will gel over a season or two (or three), not just a bunch a superstar egos with fat wallets.

Yanks just spend it cuz they got it.

Like PaulB's comment above "I can't wait till Roy Halladay is a free agent" That shit is soooo stupid hey, we're number one cause we have the most money.

Dumb.

CAll me crazy but I like a little thing called team loyalty - you know Robin Yount had it, George Brett, Alan Trammell, Tony Gywnn, Cal Ripken, Ryne Sandberg, etc... etc... all of those guys made millions and coulda made even more with say - the Yankees, but somewhere along the line, both team and player met in the middle and that was a good thing.

bakersfield
08-18-2008, 03:56 PM
CAll me crazy but I like a little thing called team loyalty - you know Robin Yount had it, George Brett, Alan Trammell, Tony Gywnn, Cal Ripken, Ryne Sandberg, etc... etc... all of those guys made millions and coulda made even more with say - the Yankees, but somewhere along the line, both team and player met in the middle and that was a good thing.

I gotta admit, I miss those days of loyalty too.
I grew up with my infield staying together for 8 years!
That was Cey, Lopes, Garvey, Russell.

Loyalty is gone in sports. What kills me most about this is seeing how dejected my 8 year old gets when one of his favorite players leaves town again....

vinylmartyr
08-18-2008, 05:14 PM
Pretty sure we just got maddux again. Its better than Stults or Johnson starting.

boarderwoozel3
08-18-2008, 05:20 PM
CAll me crazy but I like a little thing called team loyalty - you know Robin Yount had it, George Brett, Alan Trammell, Tony Gywnn, Cal Ripken, Ryne Sandberg, etc... etc... all of those guys made millions and coulda made even more with say - the Yankees, but somewhere along the line, both team and player met in the middle and that was a good thing.

Hell yeah. All his antics aside, this is why SF will always love Barry Bonds. He was one of the greatest players ever who loved the Bay Area and we loved him back... even though he was an asshole to the media, and a cheater, but thats here nor there.

As for the Yankees, there is no reason that they shouldn't make the playoffs every single year and win the title even more often than they do. Their payroll is around $207 million this season! The next closest teams are the Mets & Tigers at $137 million. Outspending the next highest spending teams by 34%!!! Thats crazy!

(And makes it all the better when they fail :D )

Curious that the in the last decade or so the yanks have been more successful in terms of titles by developing their star players... hmmmmmm.

humanoid
08-19-2008, 02:57 AM
I don't disagree with a lot of the complaints about the Yankees and the state of baseball, but I'm not going to get into that conversation for the billionth time, pretty stale by now...only heard it and participated in that one for my entire life

there definitely is something to be said for loyalty though, that's why my favorite players are Jeter, Posada & Mariano Rivera, all Yankees for life...and my greatest childhood hero, Don Mattingly(no, I don't consider him a Dodger now)

I do find it more fun to root for guys that you get to watch come up through the system. I love following guys as they develop and hopefully make it to the bigs...the Yanks in the last couple of years, have been more fun to root for with Cano & Melky(although they've regressed this year) plus the infusion of pitchers from the system(even though Hughes & Kennedy have been busts this year)
Not all us Yankee fans are just waiting for the next free agent crop, that's not as fun...

one definite change that needs to be made is instituting a draft for international players, so that its not just a bidding war amongst the several richest teams
on the other side though, i believe there needs to be some assurance that income from revenue sharing is put back into the teams that receive it, rather than just guaranteeing a profit for owners who refuse to spend it and consistently put a terrible product on the field

bakersfield
08-19-2008, 10:07 PM
Lyon tried to do all he could to give away that 4 run lead in the 9th!

Mr. Dylanja
08-19-2008, 10:53 PM
Had to sweat that one for sure. Good to see Dunn get his first jack. My buddy scored diamond level seats for tomorrow's game. I'm pumped, get to see a Harren vs. Peavy pitchers duel, should be great!

C DUB YA
08-20-2008, 08:40 AM
Dunn moving to Arizona = a lot more strikeouts in the desert.

bakersfield
08-20-2008, 08:54 AM
^Dunn has proven to be a worthy pickup so far....
we shall see how the next 5 weeks play out, but it seems he could be the difference maker.
Dbacks were not scoring runs before he got here...now they are scoring plenty.

TomAz
08-20-2008, 09:06 AM
Lyon tried to do all he could to give away that 4 run lead in the 9th!

You know if the Dbacks didn't make that Valverde trade this past offseason, they'd have a 10 game lead in the west. Our bullpen has been so unreliable this year.

bakersfield
08-20-2008, 09:14 AM
You know if the Dbacks didn't make that Valverde trade this past offseason, they'd have a 10 game lead in the west. Our bullpen has been so unreliable this year.

You are correct.
We would NOT have gotten Qualls.
Valverde would be the closer...Lyons 8th inning & Pena 7th.

Plus we would not have gotten the lousy Chris Burke.

fiyahhh!
08-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Instant replay coming to baseball

NEW YORK - Baseball umpires and management signed an agreement Wednesday that will allow the sport to start using instant replay to help determine calls on the field. The deal was signed by lawyers for the commissioner's office and the World Umpires Association one day after a WUA spokesman went public with complaints over negotiations.

bakersfield
08-20-2008, 10:08 PM
Instant replay coming to baseball



Weird that they would implement this during the season.
Seems like it would be rolled out at the start of a season.

Mr. Dylanja
08-20-2008, 10:10 PM
Went to the game tonight expecting a pitcher's duel, it was anything but. Got to see Dunn blast one along with Snyder, we secured the dub, good stuff!

bakersfield
08-21-2008, 09:43 AM
Went to the game tonight expecting a pitcher's duel, it was anything but. Got to see Dunn blast one along with Snyder, we secured the dub, good stuff!

So many times, when they hype the pitchers duel, it does not happen.

Those bats keep a hittin' !

bakersfield
08-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Webb is 19-4. That is so dominant!
No way is he not the Cy Young winner.
He is in view of the club record of 24 wins.
WOW!

Of course the bullpen blew his shutout in the 9th.
I think Rauch needs to be given the closers role for a while.

Mr. Dylanja
08-21-2008, 11:37 PM
Sorry, just got done doing a little sweeping....


I'd be fine with that, why not take some pressure of Lyons?

B-Webb is the man, Mr. Humble. Even tho he gets paid more I'd like him to sit down with Anquan and have a little chat about performance.

Mr. Dylanja
08-23-2008, 12:51 AM
Fucking Rouche, the team picked Randy up beautifully but no the bull-pen doesn't like doing their job... :(

bakersfield
08-23-2008, 07:47 AM
Time after time, the bullpen fucks it up!

bakersfield
08-26-2008, 08:07 AM
Time after time, the bullpen fucks it up!

and again....

humanoid
08-26-2008, 09:29 AM
I think someone is going to take over permanently for Lyon as the closer soon, he is just way too hittable...I don't think the answer is Rauch either; maybe in the short term, but only that

vinylmartyr
08-26-2008, 09:38 AM
enjoy those 7 games against the cardinals. aside from head to head vs the dbacks the dodgers don't play a team the rest of the season with a record better than 10 games under .500.

C DUB YA
08-26-2008, 10:37 AM
Cubs best record since the break

humanoid
08-26-2008, 11:21 AM
What does everyone think about the fact that MLB is starting to use instant replay this Thursday? I personally feel they are asking for trouble by rushing it and instituting replay midseason...seems like an odd, shortsighted decision, I would much more easily understand them setting it up over the off season

fiyahhh!
08-26-2008, 01:17 PM
What does everyone think about the fact that MLB is starting to use instant replay this Thursday? I personally feel they are asking for trouble by rushing it and instituting replay midseason...seems like an odd, shortsighted decision, I would much more easily understand them setting it up over the off season

I don't like it. They should just finish the season w/o it and start using it in spring training so that they'll have the hang of it when next season starts. And yes, I'm thinking about next season already. Us A's fans have nothing else to do.

bakersfield
08-26-2008, 01:34 PM
^I agree with both of you.
It seems crazy that they would start this at the tail end of the season.
Bud Selig is a tool!

bakersfield
08-26-2008, 01:41 PM
I think someone is going to take over permanently for Lyon as the closer soon, he is just way too hittable...I don't think the answer is Rauch either; maybe in the short term, but only that

Rauch, Lyon and Pena have all struggled big time lately.
Not sure what the answer is.
Next year it could be Max Scherzer...

humanoid
08-26-2008, 01:54 PM
/\ now is the time for bullpens to struggle across the board generally...most teams face a downturn in bullpen performance in the dog days

especially now that MLB has banned amphetamines!!

Is Scherzer a potential candidate for the job next year? They need a real closer to ensure wins from their twin aces Webb & Haren...it'd be a shame to wash away potential wins for those guys too often, after strong starts...kinda like The Big Unit in his last year before being traded to NYY, dominated, but was only like a game or 2 over .500 due to a porous bullpen

bakersfield
08-26-2008, 10:21 PM
^On talkradio (for what that is worth..) speculation is that Lyon will not be re-signed.
Rauch will be back, but there are many that think Scherzer is perfectly suited for the closer's role. I am all for it! The guy seems to be a stud.

TheGunner'sDream
08-27-2008, 12:33 AM
Instant replay?? fuck yeah!! its about time. I hated when umpires get the calls wrong on obvious stuff like homeruns/foulballs.

C DUB YA
08-27-2008, 04:37 AM
I'm ok for Instant replay - but they shoulda waited till next year

bakersfield
08-27-2008, 09:22 AM
I'm ok for Instant replay - but they shoulda waited till next year

exactly!

bakersfield
08-27-2008, 12:45 PM
Big Unit sure looks good (so far) today!
But where did those D'backs bats go?

bakersfield
08-27-2008, 02:12 PM
FUCKING bullpen!

vinylmartyr
08-27-2008, 02:26 PM
Dodgers and Diamondbacks are both pathetic.

vinylmartyr
08-27-2008, 02:27 PM
we could not score with the bases load and no out last night 2 times againest the Nats.

vinylmartyr
08-27-2008, 02:41 PM
Brian Fuentes is available I hope we claim him before you guys do. Although I hope we don't trade for him. Even if we make the playoff we will get beat in the 1st round.

downingthief
08-27-2008, 02:43 PM
Swept by the Padres. Simply pathetic. The bullpen needs an enema.

boarderwoozel3
08-27-2008, 02:47 PM
The d-backs were overhyped. If they finish first in the special olympics (NL West) they won't do anything in the playoffs, same to the bum Dodgers.

downingthief
08-27-2008, 02:50 PM
The d-backs were overhyped. If they finish first in the special olympics (NL West) they won't do anything in the playoffs, same to the bum Dodgers.

Eh, gotta disagree there. Going through Webb, and Haren will be a tough task for any team. RJ, too.

bakersfield
08-27-2008, 02:52 PM
Eh, gotta disagree there. Going through Webb, and Haren will be a tough task for any team. RJ, too.

Right. In a short playoff serious with our starters, anything can happen.
Althouh the bullpen needs to get better....FAST!

TomAz
08-28-2008, 01:07 PM
Eh, gotta disagree there. Going through Webb, and Haren will be a tough task for any team. RJ, too.

as the Padres just proved.


oh, wait.

bakersfield
08-28-2008, 01:37 PM
Here come the Rockies again.....

boarderwoozel3
08-28-2008, 01:40 PM
Eh, gotta disagree there. Going through Webb, and Haren will be a tough task for any team. RJ, too.

While this is true I have to root against them... loyalties and all.

paulb
08-28-2008, 02:03 PM
wow, Yankees are really dissapointing me... thank god they won today...but if Tampa bay wins today, it was almost for nothing...

Comon Blue Jays!

vinylmartyr
08-29-2008, 11:44 AM
TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT!!!

TomAz
08-29-2008, 12:03 PM
NOT IN OUR HOUSE MISTER!!!

boarderwoozel3
08-29-2008, 12:08 PM
The Dodgers have lost 7 games in a row... Coming off a sweep at the hands of the mighty Nationals. THE NATIONALS! Bwahahahahaha!

Manny! Manny! Manny!............

TomAz
08-29-2008, 12:13 PM
I wish Maddux were pitching this series.

Down Rodeo
08-29-2008, 02:00 PM
Fucking Dodgers. I'm moving on to football season now.

C DUB YA
08-29-2008, 10:57 PM
I can't believe I get to type this (I'll do it slowly and in caps), it's such a rare thing...

THE CHICAGO CUBS ARE THE BEST TEAM IN BASEBALL. AWESOME.

TomAz
08-30-2008, 05:30 AM
The Dodgers have lost 7 games in a row... Coming off a sweep at the hands of the mighty Nationals. THE NATIONALS! Bwahahahahaha!

Manny! Manny! Manny!............

Nomar! Nomar! Nomar!

bakersfield
08-30-2008, 08:09 AM
I can't believe I get to type this (I'll do it slowly and in caps), it's such a rare thing...

THE CHICAGO CUBS ARE THE BEST TEAM IN BASEBALL. AWESOME.

I think this season will again tug at the heartstrings of Cubs fans....
Great regular season....out early in the postseason.
The curse of the billy goat will continue!

TomAz
08-30-2008, 09:25 AM
if the playoffs were held today the Cubs would play the Diamondbacks in the first round again. Right?

bakersfield
08-30-2008, 10:10 AM
if the playoffs were held today the Cubs would play the Diamondbacks in the first round again. Right?

I believe so.

vinylmartyr
08-30-2008, 10:25 AM
Yeah season over for the Dodgers. If AZ plays .500 ball. AZ goes 14-14 and we need to go 18-9 .667. Unfortunately we are not a .667 team. Anyway try not to get swept 1st round.

boarderwoozel3
08-30-2008, 10:42 AM
Yeah season over for the Dodgers. If AZ plays .500 ball. AZ goes 14-14 and we need to go 18-9 .667. Unfortunately we are not a .667 team. Anyway try not to get swept 1st round.

Haha, Dodgers. The AZ offense too streaky for me, but those two stud pitchers are priceless in Oct. My query to D-backs fans is this:

Who is going to get the big, clutch hits for you?
-and-
Brandon Lyon, he's been inconsistent this season and a closer is absolutley essential to a playoff run. Can he answer the call and shorten games?

Anyway, because my team has a snowball's chace in hell, I'm rooting for the Cubbies, its been a while and they need some love.

TheGunner'sDream
08-30-2008, 10:53 AM
Im a little upset. My Dodgers seemed to be doing good when they got Manny. They have been slipping as of late. Hopefully they can catch up to the Dbacks.

C DUB YA
08-30-2008, 11:25 AM
I think this season will again tug at the heartstrings of Cubs fans....
Great regular season....out early in the postseason.
The curse of the billy goat will continue!

Silly and dumb statement. Curse my ass.

C DUB YA
08-30-2008, 11:27 AM
if the playoffs were held today the Cubs would play the Diamondbacks in the first round again. Right?

a lot of ball to be played still

zenidogx
08-30-2008, 11:35 AM
and the magic number is 11
the Angels are easily on their way to the ALCS and depending on how the Rays hold up, they could even be on their way to the World Series.

rumor mill:
Eckstein could be coming back to the Angels. Izturis is out for the year and they need some support from the SS position.

C DUB YA
08-30-2008, 12:53 PM
Thank God we got rid of Izturis a few years back.

C DUB YA
08-30-2008, 12:53 PM
Im a little upset. My Dodgers seemed to be doing good when they got Manny. They have been slipping as of late. Hopefully they can catch up to the Dbacks.

Happens when your pitching blows up

nahuatldream
08-30-2008, 01:09 PM
I'm disappointed with the Dodgers' play of late. I hope they can turn it around, QUICK. If not, I'm rooting for the Rays. That would be so awesome. Rays over the Cubs in another heartbreaker for the Northsiders.