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unitedwestand
07-03-2008, 11:43 AM
Just read an article about a local resident that's complaining about organizers of the Rothbury Festival, saying things like the portable toilets are lined up against his properties and whatnot.
Here's the article:
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008/07/not_all_rothbury_residents_thr.html

Seems like just a redneck, but this seems to happen at other places, too
Coachella I think had a overall positive feeling in Indio when I went in 2007, and Lollapalooza for the most part also has good responses from Chicago.
But what about others like Bonnaroo? And there are tons of new festivals this year, would you even be comfy with having a music festival in your back yard with upwards of 35,000 people and music you didn't like? Or are general people just idiots and irresponsible and don't understand the art of music festivals?
What do you guys think?

BlackSwan
07-03-2008, 12:07 PM
Superfly bought the property that they hold Bonnaroo on so that's a good solution in their case, but some festivals bring money into places that have no other attractions or reasons for people to go there otherwise so people just have to take the good with the bad and shut the fuck up in the process.

fatbastard
07-03-2008, 12:37 PM
I would have agreed had you mentioned Rothenberg.

captncrzy
07-03-2008, 01:44 PM
Some people are just assholes.

There used to be this neighborhood that was relatively close to ours. There were a lot of retired firefighters that lived in it and every year, they would band together and put up a huge christmas display. It was unfuckingbelievable-the whole street would be lit up and they even had little animatronic characters in glass cases-the works. On Christmas Eve, the guy would rent (or had) a sleigh and he would dress up like Santa and drive it down the street. It would take him six months to get everything out. One spoilsport sued them and ruined the whole thing-even though Christmas guy won his lawsuit, he stopped becuase he said the whole experience of getting sued about Christmas lights just blew all the enjoyment out of it.

dorkfish
07-03-2008, 01:55 PM
I happened to be traveling through Manchester, TN during Bonnaroo (on the way to Chattanooga from Memphis), and the general consensus of the locals that I talked to was that they hated Bonnaroo.

BlackSwan
07-03-2008, 01:58 PM
you forgot the asterisk.

MarkO
07-03-2008, 01:58 PM
Do they hate the revenue the county gets from it ?? Maybe Bonnaroo should move on somewhere else and let the resulting bump in property & sales taxes for the yokels soften their cough.

bakersfield
07-03-2008, 02:05 PM
Some people are just assholes.

There used to be this neighborhood that was relatively close to ours. There were a lot of retired firefighters that lived in it and every year, they would band together and put up a huge christmas display. It was unfuckingbelievable-the whole street would be lit up and they even had little animatronic characters in glass cases-the works. On Christmas Eve, the guy would rent (or had) a sleigh and he would dress up like Santa and drive it down the street. It would take him six months to get everything out. One spoilsport sued them and ruined the whole thing-even though Christmas guy won his lawsuit, he stopped becuase he said the whole experience of getting sued about Christmas lights just blew all the enjoyment out of it.

Was that North Phoenix? If so, I remember when that happened.
Made my kids sad.
Some people need to get a life!
Like the asshole next door who whines that my son is loud when he skateboards on our half-pipe in the backyard.

marooko
07-03-2008, 02:11 PM
Just read an article about a local resident that's complaining about organizers of the Rothbury Festival, saying things like the portable toilets are lined up against his properties and whatnot.
Here's the article:
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008/07/not_all_rothbury_residents_thr.html

Seems like just a redneck, but this seems to happen at other places, too
Coachella I think had a overall positive feeling in Indio when I went in 2007, and Lollapalooza for the most part also has good responses from Chicago.
But what about others like Bonnaroo? And there are tons of new festivals this year, would you even be comfy with having a music festival in your back yard with upwards of 35,000 people and music you didn't like? Or are general people just idiots and irresponsible and don't understand the art of music festivals?
What do you guys think?

oh a redneck? who cares what they think. they're not even real people.

BROKENDOLL
07-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Just read an article about a local resident that's complaining about organizers of the Rothbury Festival, saying things like the portable toilets are lined up against his properties and whatnot.
Here's the article:
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008/07/not_all_rothbury_residents_thr.html

Seems like just a redneck, but this seems to happen at other places, too
Coachella I think had a overall positive feeling in Indio when I went in 2007, and Lollapalooza for the most part also has good responses from Chicago.
But what about others like Bonnaroo? And there are tons of new festivals this year, would you even be comfy with having a music festival in your back yard with upwards of 35,000 people and music you didn't like? Or are general people just idiots and irresponsible and don't understand the art of music festivals?
What do you guys think? Well, the first few years, Coachella was in my backyard. (Literally.) I wasn't really familiar with the music, but the idea that it was something different was kinda cool and any inconveniences were due to inexperience on the promoter's and city's part in planning for the event. Each year, GV and the city of Indio made corrections and adjustments that would keep the festival going, as well as keeping the local residents happy. In 2004, I went thinking, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em," and I haven't missed a year since then. For the most part, the locals have seen what it does for an otherwise boring economy over those 3 days and have adjusted to any inconveniences.


Superfly bought the property that they hold Bonnaroo on so that's a good solution in their case, but some festivals bring money into places that have no other attractions or reasons for people to go there otherwise so people just have to take the good with the bad and shut the fuck up in the process. It's obvious what Coach does for our little desert here...Try finding a room or place to stay that weekend! (And alot of places were booked up way before that!

BROKENDOLL
07-03-2008, 02:36 PM
Oh, Rednecks are real, trust me...There wouldn't be Stagecoach if they weren't.

betao
07-03-2008, 02:38 PM
it would all depend on the kind of music...

if Coachella, UMF, or Creamfields was in my backyard, i'd be stoked every year.

If Warped Tour was in my backyard, i'd move away as far as possible in a heartbeat.

PassiveTheory
07-03-2008, 04:16 PM
it would all depend on the kind of music...

if Coachella, UMF, or Creamfields was in my backyard, i'd be stoked every year.

If Warped Tour was in my backyard, i'd move away as far as possible in a heartbeat.

QFT.

Sushov23
07-03-2008, 05:14 PM
don't be surprised when Coachella moves out of the polo grounds. Locals hate that Coachella is here in Indio.

algunz
07-03-2008, 05:17 PM
That hasn't been the impression I've gotten.

Wheres the beef?
07-03-2008, 05:34 PM
I'd be interested in a real poll taken of indio residents about what they think of the festival.

orbit
07-03-2008, 05:44 PM
it would all depend on the kind of music...

if Coachella, UMF, or Creamfields was in my backyard, i'd be stoked every year.

If Warped Tour was in my backyard, i'd move away as far as possible in a heartbeat.

once you see the crowd for UMF, I bet you will move away in a heartbeat.

boarderwoozel3
07-03-2008, 05:54 PM
Superfly bought the property that they hold Bonnaroo on so that's a good solution in their case, but some festivals bring money into places that have no other attractions or reasons for people to go there otherwise so people just have to take the good with the bad and shut the fuck up in the process.

BINGO!

Festivals bring tens of thousands of people to the area and they all eat/sleep/shop/spend money. Especially festivals like Lolla where onsite camping isn't an option. Local businesses have to be thrilled to have a major music festival in their area.

This just reaffirms the ignorant redneck stereotype. I wonder if the person in question was a Pikey?!

RotationSlimWang
07-03-2008, 05:56 PM
oh a redneck? who cares what they think. they're not even real people.

I know you were being sarcastic and all, but they're not.

Sushov23
07-03-2008, 06:02 PM
BINGO!

Festivals bring tens of thousands of people to the area and they all eat/sleep/shop/spend money. Especially festivals like Lolla where onsite camping isn't an option. Local businesses have to be thrilled to have a major music festival in their area.

This just reaffirms the ignorant redneck stereotype. I wonder if the person in question was a Pikey?!

at places like Bonnaroo, and Lolla yeah it helps the economy. The diff. is here in the Coachella Valley the money that the festival brings in is really not needed. There are so many people moving here, and stores opening up that the money doesn't make a huge diff., or not as big as people make it seem. For that I think people would be ok without the money that the 3 days bring, over all the shit that happens during the festival.

algunz
07-03-2008, 06:24 PM
I would say the local community is bad for music festivals.

Sushov23
07-03-2008, 07:12 PM
as is the music festival for local communities. Unless it's the music you like.

chiapet
07-03-2008, 07:13 PM
Well, I can imagine that if you just hate music or have really narrow-minded tastes, it would suck to have a music festival literally in your back yard full of music you hate. I'd like to think that most people would be curious and would check it out just because it was so convenient.

It doesn't really compare to major festivals but the Treasure Island festival here is, well, on an island. The island has practically nothing in the way of services/entertainment/etc, and even though it's right off the bridge from SF, you can't bike or walk to SF or Oakland (since the only way off the island is boat or bridge), and people who live there end up being limited in options to go out since they have to either drive or take a bus. There were tons of TI residents at the festival last year, and everyone I talked to was really thrilled to have *SOMETHING* there. So many people said they had never heard of the bands or that it wasn't really music they listened to, but just thought it was great not to have to go into one of the cities for that weekend.

RotationSlimWang
07-03-2008, 07:38 PM
I don't care how many communities have to be slain in order to make my light shows.

algunz
07-03-2008, 08:08 PM
The more communities slain the better off we all are.

JustSteve
07-03-2008, 08:10 PM
i get a taste of what it's like since i live in newport beach. during winter i can go down to the beach whenever i want and find a parking spot. the streets are filled with residents and their vehicles around town. once school is out and summer is here it's a different story. if i am heading home on the 55 around noon it will be backed up a mile, taking a half an hour to go that distance just to get off the freeway if i forget to get off the exit before. if i am trying to get to the freeway mid to late afternoon i need to double the amount of time it would take in the off season. summer here is a bitch, but how can i really complain when the ocean is my backyard. we all live with it for a reason, because it's worth it. right about this time of year i am ready for it to be fall again, though. tomorrow there will be thousands of people walking down the hill by my house leaving their trash, etc. all over the place. have some fucking respect.

i did see a funny marquee at one of the bar's, though...said "when it's 100 in riverside it's 909 in newport." shit cracked me up!

algunz
07-03-2008, 08:25 PM
I just got rear ended by a 909er on the 55. I see your point.

RotationSlimWang
07-03-2008, 08:27 PM
i get a taste of what it's like since i live in newport beach. during winter i can go down to the beach whenever i want and find a parking spot. the streets are filled with residents and their vehicles around town. once school is out and summer is here it's a different story. if i am heading home on the 55 around noon it will be backed up a mile, taking a half an hour to go that distance just to get off the freeway if i forget to get off the exit before. if i am trying to get to the freeway mid to late afternoon i need to double the amount of time it would take in the off season. summer here is a bitch, but how can i really complain when the ocean is my backyard. we all live with it for a reason, because it's worth it. right about this time of year i am ready for it to be fall again, though. tomorrow there will be thousands of people walking down the hill by my house leaving their trash, etc. all over the place. have some fucking respect.

i did see a funny marquee at one of the bar's, though...said "when it's 100 in riverside it's 909 in newport." shit cracked me up!

Yeah, that's a pretty hilarious marquee.

RotationSlimWang
07-03-2008, 08:28 PM
Seriously. HILARIOUS.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
07-04-2008, 12:59 PM
I don't care how many communities have to be slain in order to make my light shows.

sigged.

RotationSlimWang
07-04-2008, 01:02 PM
I was waiting for somebody to sig that already.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
07-04-2008, 01:05 PM
I was waiting for somebody to sig that already.

its both hilarious and true.

rage patton
07-05-2008, 01:01 AM
It made me laugh.

boarderwoozel3
07-05-2008, 01:23 AM
at places like Bonnaroo, and Lolla yeah it helps the economy. The diff. is here in the Coachella Valley the money that the festival brings in is really not needed. There are so many people moving here, and stores opening up that the money doesn't make a huge diff., or not as big as people make it seem. For that I think people would be ok without the money that the 3 days bring, over all the shit that happens during the festival.

Yeah, because downtown Chicago is so strapped for cash?! Do festivals make or break an area? Probably not, but I doubt local business owners want Coahella to move.

rage patton
07-05-2008, 01:28 AM
Right before I went to go set up camp thursday afternoon, I went to an Ihop just down the road from Coachella. It was ALL old people there... except us. Our sever asked us if we were going to Coachella. We said yes. She started smiling and got all giddy. She said she looks forward to the Coachella weekend all year... but not for the music. She said she enjoys all the young people and life it bring to the city. She said some people aren't to thrilled about all the noise it causes... but she said most people she knows really dont mind, and a few people, like her, enjoy it.

alpharuin
07-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Music festivals are good for the economy of the town in which they are held in.