The Official 2009 Sahara Tent Prediction Thread

[betao]

So do you guys think if the Chem's play they will be main stage or Sahara?

I hope they do the Sahara over the mainstage. But depending on who else plays that day, they could do either.

[Derekx]

Underworld doing a live set.

THIS is what needs to be in the Sahara. I dare anyone to watch this video and say no.

f1JF1W_i0-I

FUCK! They have to play. I need to see them before I die. It is my goal.

[oftheheartofthesoul]

Underworld doing a live set.

THIS is what needs to be in the Sahara. I dare anyone to watch this video and say no.

f1JF1W_i0-I

I'm on a mission to agree with you. Mission accomplished.

[feather]

I hope they do the Sahara over the mainstage. But depending on who else plays that day, they could do either.

Mainstage to close out the night would be pretty sweet. More room to dance, and a lot cooler...though I don't mind when the Sahara gets hot and heavy.

[daft$tar]

Underworld doing a live set.

THIS is what needs to be in the Sahara. I dare anyone to watch this video and say no.

f1JF1W_i0-I

insanity!!!

we need them there

[boarderwoozel3]

Yes indeed. I feel a big one coming on this year folks. Fatboy was fun and all but it seems were due for the Chems, Prodigy or Underworld to stop by Coachella again.

Fact: The Chemical Brothers, Underworld or The Prodigy being at Coachella 09 would make my weekend. The headliners could be Kings of Leon, Coldplay and STP for all I care. That ~90 minutes in the tent would be pure heaven.

[JSam67]

I'm giving up on The Prodigy, just hoping for them to show up at the Roo now. I'd fucking love Chems or Underworld, and I think both would be Sahara, although I could see Chems closing down the main stage Friday after a mid-sized or weird headliner.

[gibsonorbust]

Underworld doing a live set.

THIS is what needs to be in the Sahara. I dare anyone to watch this video and say no.

f1JF1W_i0-I

"No." ...Of course that was a lie. That would be one sik Sahara set, christ!

[boarderwoozel3]

I'm giving up on The Prodigy, just hoping for them to show up at the Roo now. I'd fucking love Chems or Underworld, and I think both would be Sahara, although I could see Chems closing down the main stage Friday after a mid-sized or weird headliner.

Agreed on The Prodigy, I just threw them in for good measure.

[daft$tar]

I'm giving up on The Prodigy, just hoping for them to show up at the Roo now. I'd fucking love Chems or Underworld, and I think both would be Sahara, although I could see Chems closing down the main stage Friday after a mid-sized or weird headliner.

prodigy is probably a no go - which is ok...i guess

im just excited about seeing them in a venue - the fonda would be ideal...or even the hollywood bowl

[betao]

You're more likely to see Prodigy do Coachella this year than you are to see them do the Roo.

[PassiveTheory]

Based on what assumption, Betao?

[stephen22]

You're more likely to see Prodigy do Coachella this year than you are to see them do the Roo.



I hit up the Roo every summer....and I'm doubtful of The Prodigy playing Roo. I don't know what it is....I just don't see them there.

I do however think Roo will go after Justice. Maybe give them the Kanye slot.

[paulb]

fine by me...as long as its LIVE

[betao]

Based on what assumption, Betao?

half hunch, the other half based on their touring patterns ever since FOTL.

Since 1998, they've entered the US 3 times. In 2002, for Coachella and a gig in Vegas. In 2005, for Coachella. In 2006, brief US tour that included UMF and Rokout. They won't do the Roo when they come back to the US. I think they'll spend June-August doing festivals in Europe, something they've done for the past 3 years.

I will be very VERY surprised if they end up at Roo.

The Roo will go after an EDM star that the average person knows nowadays.

[Boourns]

The Prodigy will play Fuji or Summersonic.

[frozen pilgrim]

prodigy at fuji would be fucking crazy :P

I can't even imagine what that'd be like.

[betao]

Prodigy would definitely do Fuji given the chance.

[Wheres the beef?]

Last year there seemed to be a big influx of Headbanger: Justice, Busy P, Kavinsky (If hes not he might as well be), Duffy, etc.

Is there some other label or group of artists that could take it this year?

[Brochella]

Last year there seemed to be a big influx of Headbanger: Justice, Busy P, Kavinsky (If hes not he might as well be), Duffy, etc.

Is there some other label or group of artists that could take it this year?

swedish house mafia!

FRIDAY
5:30-8:00 - Axwell + Angello + Ingrosso
8:10 - 9:45 - Eric Prydz

that would be huge!

[paulb]

The Prodigy will play Fuji or Summersonic.

well considering they did Summersonic this year....Fuji is likely for next year.... hopefully they do Pemberton instead :)

[LooseAtTheZoo]

half hunch, the other half based on their touring patterns ever since FOTL.

Since 1998, they've entered the US 3 times. In 2002, for Coachella and a gig in Vegas. In 2005, for Coachella. In 2006, brief US tour that included UMF and Rokout. They won't do the Roo when they come back to the US. I think they'll spend June-August doing festivals in Europe, something they've done for the past 3 years.

I will be very VERY surprised if they end up at Roo.

The Roo will go after an EDM star that the average person knows nowadays.

Are you implying that the average person doesn't know about the Prodigy? Because I would say they are one of the best known EDM "stars"

[malcolmjamalawesome]

If Justice and Gogol Bordello can play two years in a row then bring back Booka Shade and give them a night slot.

Booka Shade ballskicked my soul at Lollapalooza.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

And everybody knows who the fucking Prodigy is.

[betao]

Are you implying that the average person doesn't know about the Prodigy? Because I would say they are one of the best known EDM "stars"


And everybody knows who the fucking Prodigy is.

Perhaps I worded it wrong. Older music fans know the prodigy because they peaked at the late 90s and really died down after that. AONO did terrible in the US.

Because the Roo isn't a festival known for offering electronic music, I can see them booking an EDM name that EVERYONE knows (much like Tiesto last year).

[boarderwoozel3]

Booka Shade ballskicked my soul at Lollapalooza.

They OWNED at Lolla, especially after MGMT started to bomb next door and tons of people came over to that stage. Booka had a massive crowd going nuts, their set was mint and even more impressive live.

[Backwater]

Perhaps I worded it wrong. Older music fans know the prodigy because they peaked at the late 90s and really died down after that. AONO did terrible in the US.

Because the Roo isn't a festival known for offering electronic music, I can see them booking an EDM name that EVERYONE knows (much like Tiesto last year).

Wait. Are you really claiming that Tiesto is more popular than the Prodigy? If so, then that's so completely wrong.

[betao]

Wait. Are you really claiming that Tiesto is more popular than the Prodigy? If so, then that's so completely wrong.

In the US, yes I believe he is. Tiesto right now has the ability to tour the US and play all over the country. If the Prodigy were to tour right now, it'd be just like the Chems tour last year: small.

This isn't 1997 unfortunately.

[JSam67]

I have to disagree betao. I live in a part of the country where electronic music is incredibly unpopular and unknown. And almost all my friends are familiar with The Prodigy, while almost none of them have ever heard of Tiesto.

Is the Roo a stretch for The Prodigy? Sure. But if they're coming over here at all, and Coachella is incredibly unlikely, well, what's the biggest festival they could hit up? Bonnaroo.

I can dream, at least.

[rage patton]

I bet a majority of people would be able to name at least one Prodigy song. If not, if you played Breathe a majority of the people would at least recognize the song. If the same people were asked to name a Tiesto song... most would not know the name of any. I sure don't. I also bet if you played Tiesto's most well known song (?), most people wouldn't be able to say who it was.

[Backwater]

In the US, yes I believe he is. Tiesto right now has the ability to tour the US and play all over the country. If the Prodigy were to tour right now, it'd be just like the Chems tour last year: small.

This isn't 1997 unfortunately.

Well I know for sure that to most of the people I know, Prodigy is more popular. I actually know this for a fact because the topic came up when I was with my friends last week. I think only like 2 out of the 5 other people had even heard of Tiesto. However, they pretty much all knew the Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk and some others. Keep in my mind these aren't EDM fans so as far as the casual audience who isn't very informed about EDM music, I would say that the Prodigy is definitely more popular than Tiesto. I think you're right about them being more popular with the slightly older crowd though, that might be all the difference.

Aren't they like your favorite band though? Show some pride, man! They're more popular still than you think they are.

[boarderwoozel3]

Smack My Bitch Up, lots of folks know that one for sure.

[rage patton]

Smack My Bitch Up, lots of folks know that one for sure.

I am sure most people know Smack My Bitch Up, Breathe and Firestarted. In fact, most of my friends arent into any sort of electronic music at all, and they all like The Prodigy. The ones who do know Tiesto, pretty much think hes a joke. With the exception of a couple.

[betao]

Well over here on the east coast, trance is way more popular than the Prodigy. The Prodigy are not big in the US right now. Sure most people know "Firestarter", but apart from that, their market here is small. AONO only sold about 16,000 in the US when it first came out. The tour that followed 2 years later was small and all small venues (DC's venue was about 1800 capacity, however it did sell out). The last time Tiesto toured, it was way larger.

[Backwater]

I have to disagree betao. I live in a part of the country where electronic music is incredibly unpopular and unknown. And almost all my friends are familiar with The Prodigy, while almost none of them have ever heard of Tiesto.


Yep, that's exactly how it was in Cincinnati.

We should keep in mind though that we all might bit a little older than him and that might have something to do with it because he's right about them being much more popular in the late 90's than they are right now. For people in their mid-late 20's, the late 90's don't seem all that far away so they still remember Prodigy vividly and if they aren't EDM fans per se then they aren't going to know or care about Tiesto, which is the situation with most of my friends. I've only heard of Tiesto because he was on the coachella and bonnaroo lineups, I've always been a Prodigy fan though.

[boarderwoozel3]

The Prodigy also have that vague guitar rock sound Tiesto doesn't. That would lead me to believe they'd be more accessible to the mainstream American listener. Lets face it Trance gets hated on in this country.

[CalmerThanYou]

i think just the name tiesto would be more well known now a days amongst the mainstream. perhaps not tracks, but name; yes.

i do think however that more people would enjoy a prodigy show over tiesto.

edit: I also think that the average person would be surprised the hear prodigy was still together and performing music.

[betao]

Well I know for sure that to most of the people I know, Prodigy is more popular. I actually know this for a fact because the topic came up when I was with my friends last week. I think only like 2 out of the 5 other people had even heard of Tiesto. However, they pretty much all knew the Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Daft Punk and some others. Keep in my mind these aren't EDM fans so as far as the casual audience who isn't very informed about EDM music, I would say that the Prodigy is definitely more popular than Tiesto. I think you're right about them being more popular with the slightly older crowd though, that might be all the difference.

Aren't they like your favorite band though? Show some pride, man! They're more popular still than you think they are.

I love the Prodigy man, but they're not that popular in the US. Much like The Chems are. Or at least thats the way it is on the east coast.

If Tiesto and Prodigy played at Coachella together next year, I'd bet that Tiesto would be billed higher.

[betao]

The Prodigy also have that vague guitar rock sound Tiesto doesn't. That would lead me to believe they'd be more accessible to the mainstream American listener. Lets face it Trance gets hated on in this country.

Trance only gets hated by hardcore EDM fans. You can't deny that it doesn't have a huge fanbase in the US.

Last year Tiesto spun to about 8,000 people at a gig in DC.

[betao]

Yep, that's exactly how it was in Cincinnati.

We should keep in mind though that we all might bit a little older than him and that might have something to do with it because he's right about them being much more popular in the late 90's than they are right now. For people in their mid-late 20's, the late 90's don't seem all that far away so they still remember Prodigy vividly and if they aren't EDM fans per se then they aren't going to know or care about Tiesto, which is the situation with most of my friends. I've only heard of Tiesto because he was on the coachella and bonnaroo lineups, I've always been a Prodigy fan though.

Yeah, i'm a youngin around these parts, but for in 2005 and 2006 I was obsessed with Prodigy. Had I been older, I would have followed them around on the 2006 tour.

People know who The Prodigy are. But that doesn't make them popular.

[rage patton]

People also know who Tiesto are... that doesn't make him popular. More people might know the name Tiesto, but more people know The Prodigy tracks. Which I guess doesnt = high placement on a poster and ticket sales...

[feather]

At raves Trance is always on the main stage, and the most crowded.

[Backwater]

I think the Prodigy might just seem more popular to us than they really are because their music is so much better than Tiesto's. Kind of like how everyone was like, "Jack Johnson isn't big enough to headline!" When in reality he unfortunately is, it's just that his music sucks so bad that he doesn't seem popular to us even though he is, because we have better taste than that. I think it's a similiar with Tiesto, we all just have to face it that that douchebag has more fans in the US than the genius of Prodigy, sad.

[betao]

I think the Prodigy might just seem more popular to us than they really are because their music is so much better than Tiesto's. Kind of like how everyone was like, "Jack Johnson isn't big enough to headline!" When in reality he unfortunately is, it's just that his music sucks so bad that he doesn't seem popular to us even though he is, because we have better taste than that. I think it's a similiar with Tiesto, we all just have to face it that that douchebag has more fans in the US than the genius of Prodigy, sad.

Thats exactly it. It's unfortunate, but true.

[betao]

People also know who Tiesto are... that doesn't make him popular. More people might know the name Tiesto, but more people know The Prodigy tracks. Which I guess doesnt = high placement on a poster and ticket sales...

Yeah man thats what i'm trying to say. DJ's dont always have well known "hits", but they definitely get around better in the US than some acts that do.

I personally think Tiesto is ok. I was at the DC gig, it was an estimated 8000 people there for him. He spun for 4 hours... I was bored after like 45 mins.

[rage patton]

At raves Trance is always on the main stage, and the most crowded.

Most people who go to raves will be at the mainstage no matter who is playing. It could be Prodigy, Tiesto or Britney Spears. Most wouldn't care.

[CalmerThanYou]

for the record: prodigy > tiesto^17

all day, errr day

[JSam67]

Tiesto was awful at Coachella. But he was billed just after RHCP and Arcade Fire, two pretty big names. But don't we think The Prodigy would be billed similarly? Maybe I am just old, or maybe the total absence of trance in the Midwest has sheltered me from its popularity.

It's so similar to JJ, backwater. And part of it is because Coachella has such a legit lineup each year that we're accustomed to seeing only artists that we enjoy.

[rage patton]

The Prodigy would most definately be on the second line. Depending on who was playing that day, Prodigy would be second or third billed for that day.

[feather]

Most people who go to raves will be at the mainstage no matter who is playing. It could be Prodigy, Tiesto or Britney Spears. Most wouldn't care.

I agree, because the ravers at the main stage/who like trance are the most fucked up and really don't know whats going on, so they are stuck there. DnB & house keep it together!

[betao]

The Prodigy would most definately be on the second line. Depending on who was playing that day, Prodigy would be second or third billed for that day.

Sorry man, but they wouldnt. They'd be where Fatboy and Aphex were this year.

In 2005 they were 5th billed, and it was a very rare performance as well. They haven't gotten any bigger since then, thats for sure.

[Backwater]

Wasn't Fatboy all the way at the top this year, second after JJ?

[rage patton]

Sorry man, but they wouldnt. They'd be where Fatboy and Aphex were this year.

In 2005 they were 5th billed, and it was a very rare performance as well. They haven't gotten any bigger since then, thats for sure.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Wait... were The Prodigy really on the third line in 05? Seriously? Are you cereal?


I agree, because the ravers at the main stage/who like trance are the most fucked up and really don't know whats going on, so they are stuck there. DnB & house keep it together!

Exactly!

[betao]

Wasn't Fatboy all the way at the top this year, second after JJ?

Nope. 5th :(

This was the very first poster:

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v164/34/7/570597728/n570597728_527768_2899.jpg

When Aphex got added, he pretty much took Madness's spot on the poster.

[rage patton]

Madness :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( :(:(:(:(:(

[betao]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Wait... were The Prodigy really on the third line in 05? Seriously? Are you cereal?



I am super cereal. The Chems made it to 4th.

http://coachella.com/util/gallery_image.php?id=1040

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Well over here on the east coast, trance is way more popular than the Prodigy.

You, sir, are lucky that a certain associate of mine isn't here to hear that.

[betao]

You, sir, are lucky that a certain associate of mine isn't here to hear that.

The east coast could use his visit.

[CalmerThanYou]

lol

[rage patton]

BRIGHT EYES ABOVE THE PRODIGY? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???

And why the fuck are The Chem Bros. on the third line? There was plenty of room for them on the second.

BRIGHT EYES?

Jesus Christ...

P.S. Thank you for getting the South Park reference.

[betao]

BRIGHT EYES ABOVE THE PRODIGY? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???

And why the fuck are The Chem Bros. on the third line? There was plenty of room for them on the second.

BRIGHT EYES?

Jesus Christ...

P.S. Thank you for getting the South Park reference.

I know man, I know. It's pretty rough to look at.

It is half atrocious, half unfair, and half ridiculous. (that was the best I could do to keep it going)

[JSam67]

Chems won't be billed so low for a 3-day festival, keep in mind. They'll be 3rd name on Friday, I think. Right after Gorillaz and Massive Attack, I hope!

[boarderwoozel3]

I could care less where they bill The Chems, The Prodigy or Underworld in 09 so long as they're ON THE POSTER!

[daft$tar]

I could care less where they bill The Chems, The Prodigy or Underworld in 09 so long as they're ON THE POSTER!

agreed 115%

[orbit]

And why the fuck are The Chem Bros. on the third line? There was plenty of room for them on the second.


does it make any difference last second or first third?

i don't get why people get upset because certain bands are not billed higher.

[Xrawrthatboy]

Something tells me that we're most likely to see Chemical Bros. back next year. Goldenvoice wouldnt put out the same lineup as '05, meaning were getting either Chems or Prodigy not both and with Prodigy already posting dates in Europe the chances of showing slimmed considerably. I'm also going to go out on a limb and say Chem's may be a bigger draw than Underworld. Besides which of the three were on the Coachella DVD?
Hopefully this also means we won't see a return of Coldplay.

[rage patton]

does it make any difference last second or first third?

i don't get why people get upset because certain bands are not billed higher.

It doesn't really matter... it just doesn't make any sense. I want to know the logic behind it.

[orbit]

I agree, because the ravers at the main stage/who like trance are the most fucked up and really don't know whats going on, so they are stuck there. DnB & house keep it together!

there are plenty of people who love trance and know a shit ton about electronic music. all genres.

and they might want to keep dnb & house apart. the pendulum->fatboy slim this year was really bad. or at least get better acts.

[orbit]

It doesn't really matter... it just doesn't make any sense. I want to know the logic behind it.

there's no much to think about. some acts require to be billed high, some names get moved around due to length. it's not only about popularity or quality.

[rage patton]

there's no much to think about. some acts require to be billed high, some names get moved around due to length. it's not only about popularity or quality.

In this specific case, there was room for The Chemical Brothers on the second line, so I was just wondering why they weren't bumped up. Especially considering the second line on day 2 had 3 acts on it. It makes me think they were trying to land another major act in 05 and were leaving room so they didn't have to bump The Chemical Brothers down. As I said, it actually isn't a big deal... just something to think about.

[Xrawrthatboy]

aesthetics and nothing more most likely

[boarderwoozel3]

there are plenty of people who love trance and know a shit ton about electronic music. all genres.

and they might want to keep dnb & house apart. the pendulum->fatboy slim this year was really bad. or at least get better acts.

I thought it was a great transition. The tent was pretty damn empty for Pendulum so I was able to arrive 10 min before the end of their set and get right in between the barrier and sound booth for Fatboy :D

[betao]

I thought Aphex to Pendulum to Fabtoy was nearly perfect.

[daft$tar]

I thought Aphex to Pendulum to Fabtoy was nearly perfect.

i left early on friday as soon as fatboy started playing

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Missing Pendulum was tough, but I'm still happy to have seen Sharon Jones and part of the Swell Season

[orbit]

i wish i saw sharon jones instead. pendulum were disappointing. fatboy slim had it the first 15-20 minutes. then it got really boring.

[rage patton]

Sharon Jones was great. I enjoyed Fatboy's set... but his first 15-20 minutes were certainly the best. Especially the opening.

[daft$tar]

Sharon Jones was great. I enjoyed Fatboy's set... but his first 15-20 minutes were certainly the best. Especially the opening.

yea that was great - what happened? zzzz

[boarderwoozel3]

Ok, uffie... pfft


:)

[patsfan5454]

I really hope they get Shinichi Osawa, & Crookers, & Bring back Simian Mobile Disco, Modeselektor & Boys Noize

[kdub83]

Hatcha!

[All Your Base]

Deadmau5 please.

[menikmati]

Michael Mayer

[All Your Base]

Michael Mayer

yes.

[menikmati]

and Basic Channel.

[daft$tar]

Ok, uffie... pfft


:)

ha - well let it be known that i was sleeping it off when uffie was playing - <3 her when shes produced...

[daft$tar]

Michael Mayer

trance hell

but if it makes you happy then YES :)

[orbit]

actually, he plays techno. or minimal techno.

i remember liking him a lot a few years ago. it was the best minimal producer out there, but then i stopped paying attention to his works. i liked immer and touch, but not much immer2. i'd like to see him.

[action jackson]

I don't know if anyone has said it yet but I think it's VERY VERY likely we'll see Fake Blood in the Sahara.

[rage patton]

Fake Blood? He (they?) are doing like 5 or 6 shows in Vancouver between December and January. I just assumed they were a local Vancouver act....

[action jackson]

Fake Blood? He (they?) are doing like 5 or 6 shows in Vancouver between December and January. I just assumed they were a local Vancouver act....

Nah man, Fake Blood is from the UK, absolutely massive over there at the moment. Check out 'Mars' or his remix of little boots 'stuck on repeat' i'm really really into him at the moment, aparently MENTAL dj sets. Do you remember theo keating aka touche...same dude

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw proxy on the bill too.

[daft$tar]

fake blood is good - really loud - mmmm

[Boourns]

BRIGHT EYES ABOVE THE PRODIGY? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???

And why the fuck are The Chem Bros. on the third line? There was plenty of room for them on the second.

BRIGHT EYES?

Jesus Christ...

P.S. Thank you for getting the South Park reference.


Cocteau Twins were originally at the end of the second line.

[All Your Base]

fake blood is good - really loud - mmmm

I'm a head, and I endorse this message. Heard Mars twice from house DJs in the last month or so.

EDIT: He'll be in Hollywood (Vanguard) next month.

[frozen pilgrim]

the fake blood remix of marina gasolina is pretty tight. mashes up nicely with the sebastian remix of human after all

[All Your Base]

the fake blood remix of marina gasolina is pretty tight. mashes up nicely with the sebastian remix of human after all

I'm working on a Mars remix myself right now. That first night I heard it in the club I was completely hooked.....for days.

I'll check out Marina.

[disqo]

D.I.M. - After the success of Boys Noize last year, why not bring out the runner up, heavyweight Boys Noize Records sign. Any of the other BNR guys would do, too. I'd personally love to see Puzique, but don't necessarily expect it. D.I.M.'s myspace (http://www.myspace.com/dimhh).

Danger - An ekleroshock sign, the show I saw a few weeks ago was breathtaking. Amazing stage performance with awesome visuals and a great, consistent production. danger's myspace (http://www.myspace.com/2emedanger). coachella would rightfully catapult his career.

Popof - For the love of god, get some awesome tech-house up in there. When Tiga has you remix his song TWICE for an EP you know you're doing something right. Popof's myspace.
(http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=66844876)
Ocelot - They are relatively unknown, a iheartcomix sign, everything that Ocelot touches turns to gold. Or at least fit in Toxic Avenger or Franki Chan. Franki killed the Perry tent this year at Lolla. Ocelot's myspace (http://www.myspace.com/ocelotmthrfckrs).

The Bloody Beetroots - Talk about innovation, nobody sounds like these guys. Their music is raw as hell, they'd burn the tent down. Bloody Beetroots' myspace (http://www.myspace.com/thebloodybeetroots).

Crookers - We need some fidget in the Sahara finally. Potty Mouth Records phenoms, the Crookers have been at the top of my list for almost a year now. Their first North American tour a little while ago was hugely successful. Crookers myspace (http://www.myspace.com/crookers).

Cut Copy - They have the best album of the year. PERIOD. There is no reason whatsoever why they should not be booked. Cut Copy myspace (http://www.myspace.com/cutcopy).

Presets - Same goes for these guys. Another Modular sign, like Cut Copy, their album is amazing and their performance is staggering. Great combo. Presets Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/thepresets).

ETTIENE DE CRECY!!!! - Have you SEEN those youtube videos?? Enough said. Have him headline the Sahara Friday night and blow everyone's mind. Ettiene De Crecy's Myspace (www.myspace.com/etiennedecrecy).

Alright. I'm spent. I'll be on at some point to continue ranting. Hella looking forward to this year.

-nicko @ [redthreat] (http://redthreat.wordpress.com)

[disqo]

I don't know if anyone has said it yet but I think it's VERY VERY likely we'll see Fake Blood in the Sahara.

Dear GOD I hope so. From what I heard Touche wasn't touring yet as Fake Blood. But Coachella would surely change that.

His remixes are the best of the year- easily the most cutting edge, anticipated artist at the moment. I would die to see that show.

Faaaaaaake Blood!

[Robototron]

actually, he plays techno. or minimal techno.

i remember liking him a lot a few years ago. it was the best minimal producer out there, but then i stopped paying attention to his works. i liked immer and touch, but not much immer2. i'd like to see him.

Saw him a few weeks ago with Superpitcher. They were pretty boring, really disappointing. They played for about 3 or 4 hours, but only in the final hour did things really get going. Plus the sound kind of sucked.

Anyway, I had a lot of shit to say in this post, but accidentally refreshed instead of opening a new tab. :( To summarize:

No more fucking Electro House. Shit is tired. I'm not expecting no blog house artists to be there next year since this shit is a total cash cow, but please, no fucking Justice for the third time. They've been playing the same set for over a year now. We do NOT need to see them again. Before you say to yourself, "you know who needs to be there in 09..." think to yourself: did this person or group just play last year? If the answer is no, go ahead and request Danger or Fake Blood or whoever the fuck else doesn't really need to be there. If yes, shut the fuck up. Speaking of Fake Blood, the only group related to this scene I'd like to see is The Black Ghosts. They're still kind of fun.

Also, please STFU about Chemical Brothers or whoever the fuck. Big names I don't really mind. I understand that they need to be there to pull a crowd. But do we really need Chemical Brothers AND Prodigy AND Underworld AND whoever else hasn't been good since the 90s? Uh, no. Anyway, we all know at least one or two of them is going to be there, so do we really need an entire thread talking about what we KNOW is going to happen?

More Dubstep. Or at least, some Dubstep. Burial is kind of popular with the Pitchfork crowd, so at least we know that it's kind of viable. At least get Skream or Kode9 or someone to play a really early set. Pretty please?

And Ricardo Villalobos needs to play. Probably never going to happen, but he hasn't been here since like 2000 or whatever thanks to the Bush administration, and with Obama as our next president, hopefully we'll see a triumphant return complete with full US tour and some festival dates. Hope, motherfuckers. Also Luciano can come too.

Also, dude above me mentioned Fidget. If anything, get Sinden or somebody, but NO FUCKING CROOKERS. Popof would be good, but not going to happen. I don't really understand why everyone into Electro House is suddenly going apeshit over him, though? Good, but it's not like he's the only Tech House dude out there. Etienne De Crecy would be good might play, though.

EDIT: Also The Juan Maclean and/or Hercules and Love Affair should play.

[frozen pilgrim]

I hereby the sign my name to the official "no fucking justice in 2009" petition

[disqo]

yes, enough justice. bring soulwax back and give them the night spot they rightfully deserve.

and why no crookers? and if not crookers, then HEAVYFEET!!! Or HiJack, or Santiago & Bushido or Hostage or something dirty dirty dirty.

also, lets get some dubpolice in there. rusko or caspa would be perfect.

[Robototron]

yes, enough justice. bring soulwax back and give them the night spot they rightfully deserve.

and why no crookers? and if not crookers, then HEAVYFEET!!! Or HiJack, or Santiago & Bushido or Hostage or something dirty dirty dirty.

also, lets get some dubpolice in there. rusko or caspa would be perfect.

Because they're awful and all their songs sound the same.

Soulwax I only really want if they come back as 2ManyDJs. They're constantly touring Nite Versions, and that album came out in what, 2005?

[All Your Base]

D.I.M. - After the success of Boys Noize last year, why not bring out the runner up, heavyweight Boys Noize Records sign. Any of the other BNR guys would do, too. I'd personally love to see Puzique, but don't necessarily expect it. D.I.M.'s myspace (http://www.myspace.com/dimhh).

Agree, supposed to play in Germany on April 18th. :(


Danger - An ekleroshock sign, the show I saw a few weeks ago was breathtaking. Amazing stage performance with awesome visuals and a great, consistent production. danger's myspace (http://www.myspace.com/2emedanger). coachella would rightfully catapult his career.

Had never heard him before checking out his page. Great stuff. Would definitely make the SEE list.
EDIT: I feel like I'm watching some horrible scifi slasher 80s B movie when I listen to this. DAMN this is fucking great!


Popof - For the love of god, get some awesome tech-house up in there. When Tiga has you remix his song TWICE for an EP you know you're doing something right. Popof's myspace.
(http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=66844876)

Funny....I've heard local DJs playing this stuff lately and didn't know anything about it. This site's a freaking gold mine for stuff like this.


Ocelot - They are relatively unknown, a iheartcomix sign, everything that Ocelot touches turns to gold. Or at least fit in Toxic Avenger or Franki Chan. Franki killed the Perry tent this year at Lolla. Ocelot's myspace (http://www.myspace.com/ocelotmthrfckrs).

Interesting. Good Groove.


The Bloody Beetroots - Talk about innovation, nobody sounds like these guys. Their music is raw as hell, they'd burn the tent down. Bloody Beetroots' myspace (http://www.myspace.com/thebloodybeetroots).

Definitely not the same ole shit here. Not sure what to think here ('cause I just haven't heard anything like before) but I can see people going insane for it.

Crookers - We need some fidget in the Sahara finally. Potty Mouth Records phenoms, the Crookers have been at the top of my list for almost a year now. Their first North American tour a little while ago was hugely successful. Crookers myspace (http://www.myspace.com/crookers).


Cut Copy - They have the best album of the year. PERIOD. There is no reason whatsoever why they should not be booked. Cut Copy myspace (http://www.myspace.com/cutcopy).

Fantastic, but I like the Presets better. I think they will be the ones people will talking about this time next year.

Presets - Same goes for these guys. Another Modular sign, like Cut Copy, their album is amazing and their performance is staggering. Great combo. Presets Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/thepresets).



ETTIENE DE CRECY!!!! - Have you SEEN those youtube videos?? Enough said. Have him headline the Sahara Friday night and blow everyone's mind. Ettiene De Crecy's Myspace (www.myspace.com/etiennedecrecy).

Yeah, this might kick it off okay. Better than okay? Yeah. Stoopid good? 'Spose. :D

Alright. I'm spent. I'll be on at some point to continue ranting. Hella looking forward to this year.

Good list. Probably better than one I could come up with by myself 'cause I'm old and slow.

-nicko @ [redthreat] (http://redthreat.wordpress.com)[/QUOTE]

[betao]

No more fucking Electro House. Shit is tired. I'm not expecting no blog house artists to be there next year since this shit is a total cash cow, but please, no fucking Justice for the third time. They've been playing the same set for over a year now. We do NOT need to see them again. Before you say to yourself, "you know who needs to be there in 09..." think to yourself: did this person or group just play last year? If the answer is no, go ahead and request Danger or Fake Blood or whoever the fuck else doesn't really need to be there. If yes, shut the fuck up. Speaking of Fake Blood, the only group related to this scene I'd like to see is The Black Ghosts. They're still kind of fun.

Agreed 100%. Keep electro away from Coachella next year. The only electro act that should be allowed to return is Simian Mobile Disco. Please no Boys Noize, no Chromeo, no Justice, no Ed Banger whatsoever. That stuff got old, and when every DJ is sampling the exact same DP tunes, it just gets boring after a while.



Also, please STFU about Chemical Brothers or whoever the fuck. Big names I don't really mind. I understand that they need to be there to pull a crowd. But do we really need Chemical Brothers AND Prodigy AND Underworld AND whoever else hasn't been good since the 90s? Uh, no. Anyway, we all know at least one or two of them is going to be there, so do we really need an entire thread talking about what we KNOW is going to happen?

Big names are always a sight to see though. They've been through the business and it's nice to see them before they call it quits. I personally think Prodigy, Chems, and Underworld still have it. Not all of us have seen them and really want to because we know them.

I mean, don't get me wrong, i'm all for talented DJs and producers playing the Sahara. I'll welcome anyone. But I still want to see some of the big acts too.



More Dubstep. Or at least, some Dubstep. Burial is kind of popular with the Pitchfork crowd, so at least we know that it's kind of viable. At least get Skream or Kode9 or someone to play a really early set. Pretty please?


A few dubstep acts would definitely be cool. Even if not in the sahara, just have one close out the gobi or mojave one night. That could be interesting.

[PassiveTheory]

I'd say no to Justice but not electro house in general. The Bloody Beetroots, at least, if not also Danger, The Toxic Avenger, Blake Miller, and Guns n' Bombs would be great.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

I'd say no to Justice but not electro house in general. The Bloody Beetroots, at least, if not also Danger, The Toxic Avenger, Blake Miller, and Guns n' Bombs would be great.

No to Justice, amen. Especially since they were probably "faking" their Coachella show

[orbit]

what's the difference between justice and all the acts in passive's list?

except the glowing cross.

[patsfan5454]

Also, dude above me mentioned Fidget. If anything, get Sinden or somebody, but NO FUCKING CROOKERS.

Just go to a different tent when they are on cuz CROOKERS is f*ckin Banging! They were so good at Hard Haunted Mansion, they've never played coachella and would set it off in the Sahara! Please please P.T. bring us some crookers!!!

[PassiveTheory]

what's the difference between justice and all the acts in passive's list?

except the glowing cross.

Well, for starters, none have played Coachella before. Also, the Bloody Beetroots are a better production duo than Justice, just about every Danger song released in the last year is amazing (especially the Kurtech remix of "19h11") and the others are just good, mindless electro house.

The big difference is that all of those bands will be playing early on in the middle of the day, which makes them all the more avoidable for you, Omar.

[All Your Base]

There aren't enough acts at Coachella that you could see something else if an Electro House act was on? No House? That would kinda be a bummer for me. Just sayin....

EDIT: But, Justice has jumped the shark. Enough is enough, I agree.

[HEADSTRUCK]

eskmo
computer controlled
kill the noise
aquasky

would be some others I would like to see there

[cooperb1]

lee coombs anyone
http://www.myspace.com/leecoombs

[daft$tar]

danger/d.i.m./crookers would all be excellent...

[boarderwoozel3]

Big names are always a sight to see though. They've been through the business and it's nice to see them before they call it quits. I personally think Prodigy, Chems, and Underworld still have it. Not all of us have seen them and really want to because we know them.

I mean, don't get me wrong, i'm all for talented DJs and producers playing the Sahara. I'll welcome anyone. But I still want to see some of the big acts too.


Yes. Yes. Yes.

I'm fairly new to the DJ scene. The biggest act I've seen is Fatboy Slim @ 'chella 08 (or maybe Paul Van Dyk in Seattle), and judging by how much fun I had at his set, seeing someone like The Chems or the Prodigy would be amazing! A solid Sahara lineup form top to bottom is a must but I'm admittedly keeping up hope for a mind-blowing headliner.

My question to those who consider themselves in "the know" would be who is going to be next year's Deadmau5, Modeselektor, Booka Shade or Simian Mobile Disco? They're all some of my favorites now and there must be more out there, yes?

[oftheheartofthesoul]

Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie Goldie.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

I'm fairly new to the DJ scene. The biggest act I've seen is Fatboy Slim @ 'chella 08 (or maybe Paul Van Dyk in Seattle), and judging by how much fun I had at his set, seeing someone like The Chems or the Prodigy would be amazing! A solid Sahara lineup form top to bottom is a must but I'm admittedly keeping up hope for a mind-blowing headliner.

My question to those who consider themselves in "the know" would be who is going to be next year's Deadmau5, Modeselektor, Booka Shade or Simian Mobile Disco? They're all some of my favorites now and there must be more out there, yes?

I think Deadmau5 has already been ruled out. My guess is Simian Mobile Disco to make up for their poor slot last year

[Boourns]

Orbital

[Xrawrthatboy]

Between Coachella and Hard I've grown tired of SMD. Please no SMD in '09.

[orbit]

Big names are always a sight to see though. They've been through the business and it's nice to see them before they call it quits. I personally think Prodigy, Chems, and Underworld still have it. Not all of us have seen them and really want to because we know them.

I mean, don't get me wrong, i'm all for talented DJs and producers playing the Sahara. I'll welcome anyone. But I still want to see some of the big acts too.


the problem is when those big acts are the 3 same names since 10 years ago. people even keep requesting daft punk and they just toured, so it will be the same 4 names for 5 more years. those big acts cost a lot of money which instead could be used to get many more other talented artists.

[betao]

the problem is when those big acts are the 3 same names since 10 years ago. people even keep requesting daft punk and they just toured, so it will be the same 4 names for 5 more years. those big acts cost a lot of money which instead could be used to get many more other talented artists.

i totally see your point, but in my eyes some of those artists are totally worth it. some of the big names don't really actually "tour" in the US anymore. Prodigy did a few shows here back in 06, Underworld did V-fest and NYC this year, and last year did a couple of shows, and the Chems did a brief bit in 07 as well. But thats it.

maybe its just a personal bias because i'm a) young and never got to see them in their prime and b) living somewhere that doesn't get the shows I want to see.

and i dont want justice to be at coachella for a while. same with daft punk.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Bloody Beetroots shred people's faces off live.

Uh, Etienne De Crecy fo SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

And I obviously want MSTRKRFT back.

[frozen pilgrim]

please no mstrkrft. sorry. as a toronto resident, I'm getting sick of giving them money. they're on a bill here like every couple weeks.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Fair. But if their new album ends up being a banger, I'm going to need them there.

[PassiveTheory]

Bloody Beetroots shred people's faces off live.

Uh, Etienne De Crecy fo SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

And I obviously want MSTRKRFT back.

You deserve a beer.

But back to the argument of "we're always asking for the same 3 or 4 Sahara headliners from the last 10 years or so/well it'd be nice to see them anyway", the problem is that, I think, aside from Justice, none of the modern dance acts can fucking AFFORD a ridiculous fucking light show that befits a Sahara headliner. Also, there's the largely correlational aspect that most modern dance artists aren't able to draw a big enough crowd here in the states (the exception being Justice).

So it's not like Paul T and co shouldn't put newer artists in the headlining slot (you could push the envelope and say they did so with Infected Mushroom in 2007, but I think most people would say that Paul van Dyk headlined the tent) it's really more like... They can't. Or they just wont. I mean, saturday night of last year was probably the best chance to have done so, but GV still booked Sasha and Digweed.

In terms of dance acts, there's probably just a few artists who have moved up into headlining position as of the last few years; those artists being Justice and Armin Van Buuren (and probably Markus Schultz and Benny Benassi in the coming year or two). And, basically, the rest of the middle-tier dance artists who could move up to become headliners are, for the most part, goddamn trance DJs.

It's the same reason why people want The White Stripes to return or Radiohead to return or Jane's Addiction to return: regardless of having toured relentlessly or being played out, there's STILL a market for these bands. You just need the next Justice to break the glass ceiling.

[Boourns]

The Knife or Orbital would be instant win. The Chemical Brothers, too, especially if we need solid counter-programming to an absolute shit headliner like the Killers. Simian Mobile Disco, definitely. I think Crystal Castles would work better in a packed, sweaty Mojave. Etienne De Crecy would be epic, but I think that stage setup would take too much time to set up, which the powers that be wouldn't be willing to make for an act that isn't as well known as someone like Daft Punk.

[Robototron]

But back to the argument of "we're always asking for the same 3 or 4 Sahara headliners from the last 10 years or so/well it'd be nice to see them anyway", the problem is that, I think, aside from Justice, none of the modern dance acts can fucking AFFORD a ridiculous fucking light show that befits a Sahara headliner. Also, there's the largely correlational aspect that most modern dance artists aren't able to draw a big enough crowd here in the states (the exception being Justice).

Lots of acts can afford to put on a good show and draw a big crowd. Any big Trance DJ, including the ones you mentioned, would be capable of doing so. Just look at shit like EDC, Monster Massive, etc. in LA. It's all the same shit that hasn't really progressed in years, but I'd rather see Chem Bros/Prodigy/Underworld over any of that, though.

I'd say Markus Schulz and Benny Benassi are headliner status already, btw. Benassi more so than Shulz, but like I said, most Trance DJs currently touring the US are probably capable of drawing fairly large crowds. In fact, acts like Infected Mushroom and Van Buuren have BEEN headliner status even at Coachella for several years now, people just aren't realizing it until now that the Indie crowd is actually paying attention to what happens in the Sahara tent.

I think what would be interesting to see is if, now that dance music has become more popular throughout the "Indie" scene, any of the big name classic House & Techno DJs that Coachella has pretty much stopped booking these past few years are capable of, if not headlining, at least filling the tent.

[Edmontonian]

Because they're awful and all their songs sound the same.

Soulwax I only really want if they come back as 2ManyDJs. They're constantly touring Nite Versions, and that album came out in what, 2005?

I agree about crookers. some of their newest remixes are ok but in general I think their terrible. and all of their songs sound the same.

Soulwax don't play just nite versinos live anymore, saw them a couple weeks ago. Since the release of "most of the remixes " they've been combining nite versions with live versions of a bunch of their best remixes. they played soulwax remixes of:

justice - phantom pt. II
daft punk - robot rock
robbie williams - lovelight
human resource vs. 808 state - dominator
LCD soundsystem - get innocuous
klaxons - gravity's rainbow

[PassiveTheory]

Lots of acts can afford to put on a good show and draw a big crowd. Any big Trance DJ, including the ones you mentioned, would be capable of doing so. Just look at shit like EDC, Monster Massive, etc. in LA. It's all the same shit that hasn't really progressed in years, but I'd rather see Chem Bros/Prodigy/Underworld over any of that, though.

I'd say Markus Schulz and Benny Benassi are headliner status already, btw. Benassi more so than Shulz, but like I said, most Trance DJs currently touring the US are probably capable of drawing fairly large crowds. In fact, acts like Infected Mushroom and Van Buuren have BEEN headliner status even at Coachella for several years now, people just aren't realizing it until now that the Indie crowd is actually paying attention to what happens in the Sahara tent.

I think what would be interesting to see is if, now that dance music has become more popular throughout the "Indie" scene, any of the big name classic House & Techno DJs that Coachella has pretty much stopped booking these past few years are capable of, if not headlining, at least filling the tent.

I don't know if I agree with what you said. I mean, just looking at recent performances, Benassi's played third string to Moby and PVD at EDC this year, and second string to Faithless in the Sahara in 2007. And what is the biggest even that Schultz has even played in the states?

I also think you miss the distinction I was trying to imply by clarifying the tenants of a Sahara headliner performance. What I'm saying is that there's only a couple dozen dance acts that can bring in Sahara headliner-esque crowds. The FBs, Daft Punks, Chem Bros of the world, and some trance DJs like Tiesto, PVD, AVB, ATB, Oakenfold, and S&D.

I would really love to see them stick Etienne de Grecy in a late night/Sahara headliner spot because it would go against convention to have a good dance act WITH an amazing dance show and no previous appearances at Coachella in said live show perform. Will it happen? Hell no. They might stick him on last, if anything, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Groove Armada melt faces before Etienne's show or something to that degree.

Finally, Van Buuren has been big for a while, but I feel that without the "#1 DJ" tag, he would be in the same position as Benassi which, if you looked at this comparatively, is almost the same position that acts like Muse and the Arcade Fire are in in terms of being Mainstage headliners.

[boarderwoozel3]

Infected Mushroom aren't a Sahara headliner. Yes I know they played last on Sun. in 07 but that was because GV didn't want to put a larger act up against their crown jewel that year, RATM.

[Robototron]

I don't know if I agree with what you said. I mean, just looking at recent performances, Benassi's played third string to Moby and PVD at EDC this year, and second string to Faithless in the Sahara in 2007. And what is the biggest even that Schultz has even played in the states?

Well of course he played third string to Moby and PVD. Moby and PVD are fucking gigantic. And if they were playing Coachella 09 I would agree that he wouldn't deserve to headline over them, but whether or not there's an artist out there that's bigger than the headliner isn't really the criteria for headlining the Sahara tent at Coachella.

I really don't think Van Buuren and Benassi are comparable to the Arcade Fire and Muse. The criteria for being a main stage headliner is totally different from being a Sahara headliner, just the fact that dance music draws more of a niche crowd to begin with in the US sets up entirely different expectations. Besides Van Buuren and Benassi are gigantic names worldwide, Van Buuren at least has headlined stages at festivals before, plays Ibiza day and night, has played shows to crowds in the tens of thousands, and IIRC has had #1 hits in the US already.

[Robototron]

Infected Mushroom aren't a Sahara headliner. Yes I know they played last on Sun. in 07 but that was because GV didn't want to put a larger act up against their crown jewel that year, RATM.

Infected Mushroom could easily headline the Sahara. If RATM hadn't been playing that year that tent would've been packed. They're one of the biggest names in Psytrance, and as we've already established, Trance is fucking huge.

[PassiveTheory]

If there was a "head vampire" equivalent for trance... I'd shoot it. In the face. With Dick Cheney's gun.***












***kidding.

[Robototron]

Seriously. Trance needs to die already. Speaking of it, though, Sven Vath in 09?

[menikmati]

Just because a band plays last in a tent/stage, does mean they're headlines, so I wish people would stop even thinking that or bringing it up. Richie Hawtin closed the tent in 2003, was he the headliner that year? No it was Underworld. Michael Mayer closed it in 2006, was he the headliner? No, it was Madonna. Evil Nine closed in it 2007, were they the headliner? No, it was Faithless. Tiesto closed the stage in 2007, was he the headliner? No, it was RHCP. Infected Mushroom closed it Sunday in 2007, were they the headliner? No, it was PVD. Above and Beyond closed it on Saturday in 2008, were the headliner, no it was Sasha & Digweed. So please, this is has been proven over and over and over again....so just stop even thinking it or saying it anymore.

[PassiveTheory]

*looks up Sven Vath on youtube*

Fine. As long as he doesn't headline, and if Tiesto stays the fuck away from Coachella this year.

[boarderwoozel3]

Just because a band plays last in a tent/stage, does mean they're headlines, so I wish people would stop even thinking that or bringing it up. Richie Hawtin closed the tent in 2003, was he the headliner that year? No it was Underworld. Michael Mayer closed it in 2006, was he the headliner? No, it was Madonna. Evil Nine closed in it 2007, were they the headliner? No, it was Faithless. Tiesto closed the stage in 2007, was he the headliner? No, it was RHCP. Infected Mushroom closed it Sunday in 2007, were they the headliner? No, it was PVD. Above and Beyond closed it on Saturday in 2008, were the headliner, no it was Sasha & Digweed. So please, this is has been proven over and over and over again....so just stop even thinking it or saying it anymore.

Exactly.

[betao]

Infected Mushroom could easily headline the Sahara. If RATM hadn't been playing that year that tent would've been packed. They're one of the biggest names in Psytrance, and as we've already established, Trance is fucking huge.

I think if IM returned, they'd get the Pendulum 08 time-slot. And it'd be awesome.

Trance is huge indeed, but psytrance isnt. (even though its awesome.)

[boarderwoozel3]

Infected Mushroom could easily headline the Sahara. If RATM hadn't been playing that year that tent would've been packed. They're one of the biggest names in Psytrance, and as we've already established, Trance is fucking huge.

I'm all about IM, but if they were presented as the marquee Sahara act on whatever day people would be pissed.

[PassiveTheory]

Psytrance is like the cool, innovative brother to Trance overall douchebaggery.

[PassiveTheory]

I'm all about IM, but if they were presented as the marquee Sahara act on whatever day people would be pissed.

Also they played at... what? 2pm at Vegoose two years ago? In the fucking sun? Come on.

[boarderwoozel3]

Psytrance is like the cool, innovative brother to Trance overall douchebaggery.

Lolz! Very true.

(but I do like PVD and John Digweed :-/ )

[betao]

at v-fest in 2007 they went on around 430-5ish

[Robototron]

Lolz! Very true.

(but I do like PVD and John Digweed :-/ )

Digweed is Progressive House, which is annoying for its own reasons, but I don't really mind him. His sets at least have variation, and you can always count on a few really good tracks in there. I don't really bother listening to much Progressive House outside of him actually, although I'm not going to lie, James Zabiela was actually kind of fun last year, even if it was ridiculously cheesy.

Does anyone here actually go to clubs or follow dance music at all past what electronic artists are playing at what times during festivals (because honestly, the only US festivals that really need to be paid attention to in terms of dance music are WMC, DEMF, and possibly Decibel)? Psytrance is huge. Infected Mushroom is huge. Go look at Google Trends or something for proof.

[patsfan5454]

I wouldn't mind having Benny Benassi closing out any of the three days, his set at EDC was probably the most packed and energetic set of the night!!

[lowfront]

at v-fest in 2007 they went on around 430-5ish


PdOgdHQLHtc


That set was sooooo much fucking fun

ahhh

love to see it at coachella

[betao]

PdOgdHQLHtc


That set was sooooo much fucking fun

ahhh

love to see it at coachella

Ah that shit was too much fun. at 1:04 you can see me holding up the crowd surfer (brown t-shirt, fro).

would DEFINITELY love to see this at coachella at night.

[rage patton]

Infected Mushroom were really fun at Vegoose. I really enjoyed their set. I would love to see them back at Coachella, since I missed them last time. Some band were playing at the mainstage at that time. I forget who though...

THE AVALANCHES FOR COACHELLA 09.

U8BWBn26bX0

[frozen pilgrim]

josh- IM got put up against RATM. total suckness. I wouldn't mind having them back

they're actually playing tonight, but I don't feel like paying $40 just for them and mark oliver

[orbit]

Digweed is Progressive House, which is annoying for its own reasons, but I don't really mind him. His sets at least have variation, and you can always count on a few really good tracks in there. I don't really bother listening to much Progressive House outside of him actually, although I'm not going to lie, James Zabiela was actually kind of fun last year, even if it was ridiculously cheesy.

i see zabiela more like a tech house, progressive breaks guy. although his works with nic fanciulli are more electro, even some funky house in there. i've always enjoyed his sets. for something more progressive house cattaneo, masiello or 16bit lolitas would do the job.

[rage patton]

josh- IM got put up against RATM. total suckness. I wouldn't mind having them back

they're actually playing tonight, but I don't feel like paying $40 just for them and mark oliver

Sarcasm, Luka. Sarcasm. :)

I wouldn't pay $40 for IM either. I would see them for under $30 or at a festival for sure though.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

Seriously. Trance needs to die already. Speaking of it, though, Sven Vath in 09?

Good news my friend ...



DAVE WANG SAYS "TRANCE IS DEAD".

[Brochella]

Here's my little dream Sahara lineup for the weekend...based both on personal wants and what seems likely...

FRIDAY
DOORS - 2: Mr. Oizo
2:05-3: Crystal Castles
3-4: The Bloody Beetroots
4-5:15: Crookers
5:15-6:15: DJ Falcon
6:15-7:15: Stanton Warriors
7:15-8:30: Kevin Saunderson
8:30-10:30: Moby (DJ set)
10:40-close: Groove Armada

SATURDAY
DOORS-2: Yuksek & Brodinski
2-3: The Juan Maclean
3-4:30: Hernan Cattaneo
4:30-7:30: Axwell + Angello + Ingrosso
7:35-8:40: Booka Shade
8:40-10: Eric Prydz
10-close: Armin Van Buuren

SUNDAY
DOORS-2: Fake Blood
2:05-3:10: The Presets
3:15-4:40: Dubfire
4:40-5:50: Cassius
5:50-6:50: Shinichi Osawa
6:50-8: Boys Noize
8:15-10:45: The Chemical Brothers
10:50-close: Soulwax

with either prodigy or basement jaxx on the mainstage

what do you guys think? :)

[betao]

Friday is great.

Saturday is ok, I know that Armin van Buuren is inevitable. points for booka shade.

Sunday - drop boys noize and cassius. add adam freeland. make chemical bros go last, and keep their 90 mins of time.

[lowfront]

My god I can't wait to get into the sahara!!!!!!

Fuck how much longer ???

[betao]

a little less than 5 months.

this wait is brutal.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

SAHARA TENT 2009: THERE WILL BE MANHUGS

[discobotica]

Friday is great.

Saturday is ok, I know that Armin van Buuren is inevitable. points for booka shade.

Sunday - drop boys noize and cassius. add adam freeland. make chemical bros go last, and keep their 90 mins of time.

drop boys noize and cassius?!?!?! WORST IDEA EVAR.....ADD SMD!!!

[Robototron]

drop boys noize and cassius?!?!?! WORST IDEA EVAR.....ADD SMD!!!

Boys Noize and SMD just played. What is with this board and wanting to see the same exact acts (and about two years after the hype)?

[Trick Loves The Kids]

SAHARA TENT 2009: THERE WILL BE MANHUGS

booyahh

[Daft Fro]

Here's my little dream Sahara lineup for the weekend...based both on personal wants and what seems likely...

FRIDAY
DOORS - 2: Mr. Oizo
2:05-3: Crystal Castles
3-4: The Bloody Beetroots
4-5:15: Crookers
5:15-6:15: DJ Falcon
6:15-7:15: Stanton Warriors
7:15-8:30: Kevin Saunderson
8:30-10:30: Moby (DJ set)
10:40-close: Groove Armada

SATURDAY
DOORS-2: Yuksek & Brodinski
2-3: The Juan Maclean
3-4:30: Hernan Cattaneo
4:30-7:30: Axwell + Angello + Ingrosso
7:35-8:40: Booka Shade
8:40-10: Eric Prydz
10-close: Armin Van Buuren

SUNDAY
DOORS-2: Fake Blood
2:05-3:10: The Presets
3:15-4:40: Dubfire
4:40-5:50: Cassius
5:50-6:50: Shinichi Osawa
6:50-8: Boys Noize
8:15-10:45: The Chemical Brothers
10:50-close: Soulwax

with either prodigy or basement jaxx on the mainstage

what do you guys think? :)

Friday is solid. Props for Stanton Warriors! Sat is a bit hallow. Sun looks realistic.

Heres one I dreamed up:

FRIDAY

12:00-1:30 Classixx
1:30-3:00 Greenskeepers
3:00-4:00 Glitch Mob
4:00-5:00 Shadow Dancer
5:00-6:30 Crookers
6:30-7:30 Tiga
7:30-9:00 Trentemoller
9:15-10:25 Cassius
10:45-END Etienne de Crecy (Live Cube)

SATURDAY

12:00-2:00 DJ Dan & Donald Glaude (2x4 set)
2:00-3;00 The Bloody Beetroots
3:15-4:00 Hercules & the Love Affair
4:15-5:20 Bassnectar
5:30-6:20 Flying Lotus
6:30-7:50 The Avalanches
8:00-9:15 MSTRKRFT
9:30-10:30 The Faint
10:45-END The Prodigy

SUNDAY

12:00-2:00 Mr. Oizo
2:00-3:00 N.A.S.A.
3:00-4:00 Goose
4:00-5:00 D.I.M.
5:00-6:00 The Presets
6:15-7:20 Rabbit in the Moon
7:30-9:00 2manydjs
9:10-10:30 Royksopp
10:50-END The Knife

[orbit]

drop trentemoller and add plump djs.

[Boourns]

These lists need Orbital and Lemon Jelly!

[orbit]

the thing with orbital is that they are announcing their show at big chill as their first live show after 5 years, which would leave coachella and glastonbury out of the way, since big chill is in august.

[Wheres the beef?]

Orbital *salivate*

[Daft Fro]

These lists need Orbital and Lemon Jelly!

I was going to add Lemon Jelly! But I hope for LJ every year.... ;_; never happens.

[rage patton]

I like Daft Fro's Sahara roughly 481304713869547136138961r9b3x36716387 times better. The Avalanches + The Prodigy on the same day = ULTIMATE WIN. Fuck the mainstage that night. I don't even care who is playing. Radio who?

[LooseAtTheZoo]

I like Daft Fro's Sahara roughly 481304713869547136138961r9b3x36716387 times better. The Avalanches + The Prodigy on the same day = ULTIMATE WIN. Fuck the mainstage that night. I don't even care who is playing. Radio who?

Rage what should I listen to by the Avalanches?

[feather]

Rage I was going to PM you the same question.

[Robototron]

The Avalanches only have one album, Since I Left You.

[boarderwoozel3]

Well that makes things easy.

*runs off to preferred torrent site*

[boarderwoozel3]

BTW, what are the best Orbital & Lemon Jelly albums or mixes?

[rage patton]

These are two of the best music videos ever made...

U8BWBn26bX0

VfAuFAgHpzc

Also, Since I Left You is quite possibly one of the best albums recorded in the last decade. Their album was made using over 4,000 vinyl samples. Everything on the album is a sample from somewhere and it was made using ONLY vinyls. The result was a uniquely danceable with a strange retro feel. I love them a rediculous amount and would do anything to see them at Coachella. I would much rather prefer a live set (2 DJs + guitar, bass, synth/keyboards and drums) over their DJ set (just the 2 DJs) but I would gladly accept a DJ set.

[rage patton]

C'mon! This was posted almost an hour ago and no replies... BUMP!

Jeff, Sophia and Gonshman, watch the videos and listen to the album and report back ASAP!

[LooseAtTheZoo]

C'mon! This was posted almost an hour ago and no replies... BUMP!

Jeff, Sophia and Gonshman, watch the videos and listen to the album and report back ASAP!

I really liked the second video. The first one was pretty annoying. It reminded of Steinski; "mashups" that don't necessarily form a coherent song (although I don't know who came first).

I am always suspect of these kinds of artists in general. What they do is incredibly hard, with what goes into the extensive sampling, but the voices wear on me after a while. Maybe that's why I liked the second one better; it was more "song-y" than just people babbling.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

And, by the way, the name is just gonsh.

[boarderwoozel3]

I've downloaded Since I Left You and am now watch the videos, like the album though. Report pending...

[feather]

C'mon! This was posted almost an hour ago and no replies... BUMP!

Jeff, Sophia and Gonshman, watch the videos and listen to the album and report back ASAP!

Haha I have been doing a freaking diet analysis project for nutrition...I feel like you- ALWAYS doing homework. But I have come to take a break, view the lovely board, and watch your videos!

[idrive1life]

Drop Rabbit in the Moon and N.A.S.A. then add Future Sound of London and Vitalic.

[feather]

Sunday - drop boys noize and cassius. add adam freeland. make chemical bros go last, and keep their 90 mins of time.

DO NOT drop Cassius :)

Brochella/Daft there are many acts you both listed that need to be there.

[rage patton]

Haha I have been doing a freaking diet analysis project for nutrition...I feel like you- ALWAYS doing homework. But I have come to take a break, view the lovely board, and watch your videos!

I have a paper due tomorrow (which I am basically done) and another due Wednesday (which I haven't even started) but this board has eaten up my entire last two days. Fucking board haha.

[paulb]

get back to work JOSH!

[LooseAtTheZoo]

I am also working on a paper. Approaching 40 pages.

[feather]

Just finished. Last big assignment for me. Then it is finals and I'm out people! Get back to your papers now.

[boarderwoozel3]

Yay! Cheers to the homework procrastination in the Sahara thread crew! I too am staggering work with the Coachella Board, work has been prevailing in the past hour.

Those videos are good stuff as are the Avalanches. I'm also really liking Lemon Jelly. Don't know why I haven't looked into these groups earlier considering how much they get mentioned... better late than never.

[idrive1life]

DO NOT drop Cassius :)


Agreed (but I agree with Matt on adding Adam Freeland).

[Robototron]

I'm supposed to be writing an essay now as well. It's just 5 or 6 pages on Plato though, so no big deal.

[Brochella]

haha, i definitely whipped that list up in a fit of procrastination :-P

i totally forgot about vitalic and rabbit in the moon! they seem like pretty good bets this year...RITM could definitely close out the Sahara on Sunday Night. some other interesting names to see in the sahara tent that i forgot:

-burial (has he ever done an unmasked DJ set?)
-laidback luke (best producer along with eric prydz and deadmau5 in the clubby/ravey house music scene these days, also a killer dj)
-steve lawler
-green velvet
-andy c
-mylo (doing a live st)
-chewy chocolate cookies (DOPE producers!)

seriously, chewy chocolate cookies are the best producers you havent heard of. check this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqGwa0J4pOY

[feather]

Agreed (but I agree with Matt on adding Adam Freeland).

Done! I really want RITM too...these names being dropped are getting me so excited.

[betao]

i'm bored.

I may go ahead and do one of these sahara schedules in a bit.

[malcolmjamalawesome]

DOCTOR mutha fuckin LEKTROLUV

[LooseAtTheZoo]

DOCTOR mutha fuckin LEKTROLUV

Amen to that. He needs to play

[boarderwoozel3]

So, Orbital. Having listened to them a bit today I'm all for a Coachella appearance. They're confirmed to reunite in early Aug. for 2009's Big Chill festival in the UK. They seem to be the bee's knees over the pond but have got very little love from the masses stateside. Is there any chance of stealing the reunion form our old buddies the British and getting Orbital for Sahara 2009?

[LooseAtTheZoo]

So, Orbital. Having listened to them a bit today I'm all for a Coachella appearance. They're confirmed to reunite in early Aug. for 2009's Big Chill festival in the UK. They seem to be the bee's knees over the pond but have got very little love from the masses stateside. Is there any chance of stealing the reunion form our old buddies the British and getting Orbital for Sahara 2009?

I think it has already been established that they won't be at Coachella if their gig at Big Chill is being called their first in 5 years.

[Boourns]

But that can become the first (announced) gig or the first on that side of the pond.

[boarderwoozel3]

Hope so, I'm listening to Diversions at the moment, and there is some nasty stuff on here! I can't believe Americans go ga-ga for fucking Tiesto and leave this virtually untouched outside of a few odd clubs... we suck.

[PassiveTheory]

My Sahara 2009 (made with the intent of being realistic, not completely to my liking):

FRIDAY

12:30-1:30 Villains
1:40-2:40 Birdy Nam Nam
2:50-3:40 N.A.S.A.
4:00-5:00 Cut Copy
5:20-6:20 Ricardo Villalobos
6:40-7:25 Hercules and Love Affair
7:45-9:00 Benny Benassi
9:15-10:40 Groove Armada
11:00-END Etienne de Crecy (Live in the Cube)

SATURDAY

12:00-1:00 Danger
1:15-2:15 The Toxic Avenger
2:15-3:15 Crookers
3:15-4:15 The Bloody Beetroots
4:20-5:30 Flying Lotus
5:35-6:35 Boys Noize
6:45-7:45 Girl Talk
8:00-9:00 MSTRKRFT
9:15-10:25 The Faint
10:45-END Bassment Jaxx

SUNDAY

12:00-1:00 DJ Mehdi
1:00-2:00 Shinichi Osawa
2:00-3:00 Mr. Oizo
3:00-3:50 Weird Science
4:10-5:00 Crystal Castles
5:15-6:15 Donald Glaude
6:20-7:25 Ferry Corsten
7:45-9:00 Rabbit In The Moon
9:00-10:10 Infected Mushroom
10:30-END Armand Van Helden

[boarderwoozel3]

I would have to do a bit of research with that lineup, but would probably find acts I really liked so whateves.

Every night is sick, but the lack of The Chemical Brothers or Underworld makes me a little sad, Jaxx or not.

[PassiveTheory]

I know, Boarder. I'm just getting the vibe that all the Chemical Brothers want to do for the next year is chill the fuck out. Underworld I still see touring, at some point next year, but will probably do Bonnaroo instead.

If you're wondering why no Prodigy, well, their tour schedule kinda fucks with the possibility of playing Coachella.

Still, that being said, if I'm given a fucking cube, "Where's Your Head At?" done right, and some RITM and Groove Armada action, it will be the bee's knees for me.

[feather]

I'm just getting the vibe that all the Chemical Brothers want to do for the next year is chill the fuck out.

Chill the fuck out in the Sahara Lee!

[PassiveTheory]

I've seen how the Brothers work it out, feath, but only on youtube... If they show up, awesome, but I'm not counting on it happening.

[boarderwoozel3]

I hope, I hope, I hope! *Crosses fingers and clicks heels together of the Chems*

But if that was the actual Sahara lineup I'd be down.

[orbit]

vitalic sounds about right. plump djs and gui boratto are a lock.

passive, give more variety to your lineup. i want to say it sucks so bad, but i won't. try to look further than fidget house and trance.

[PassiveTheory]

Fine, I'll admit that 80% of my lineup is electro house and trance. Mainly because I don't know any REAL house DJs that are still doing their thing and have been out and about in the last year or so (when's the last time fucking Carl Cox played in the states? UMF?).

But, on a side note, you guys should check out Birdy Nam Nam, they're ridiculously good.

Voila:

P4wQKIRwYWo

[prematurebirth]

Daft Punk
The Prodigy
David Bowie
Crystal Method
The Chemical Bros
DJ Dan
Richie Hawtin
MSTRKRFT
Outkast
:dumbo

[Jman4321]

vitalic sounds about right. plump djs and gui boratto are a lock.

Vitalic would be ridiculously fun.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

DJ Sneak lives in the Bay Area, I could just give him a ride down in my car

[CalmerThanYou]

(when's the last time fucking Carl Cox played in the states? UMF?).


Those guys are dope...with 4 of them up there, they remind me of how the Glitch Mob gets down...

Oh. And Carl Cox was just in SD on Oct. 24th...just sayin.

[Robototron]

PassiveTheory has my favorite dream lineup so far just for his Friday (the rest of it isn't really my thing). Birdy Nam Nam, Villalobos, H&LA, and Etienne de Crecy would be awesome. Plus Flying Lotus on Saturday!

But, along with a bunch of people that already played last year, Weird Science? C'MON, DUDE.

Gui Boratto would be great, nice to hear that him (and apparently FlyLo and Daedelus, according to orbit in that other thread) are all definitely going to play, I've missed seeing Boratto so many times now.

[frozen pilgrim]

Daft Punk
The Prodigy
David Bowie
Crystal Method
The Chemical Bros
DJ Dan
Richie Hawtin
MSTRKRFT
Outkast
:dumbo

david bowie in the tent?!

[sbessiso]

That would be SICK!

[CalmerThanYou]

David Bowie DJ set

[frozen pilgrim]

D: D: D:

[Mordecai]

I have emerged from lurking wondering how A-Trak, the most versatile and technically gifted DJ of all time hasn't been mentioned in 24 pages of Sahara sweetness? He is killing the scene right now. He did play last year but "opened" for Kid Sister in Gobi (although to be honest it was basically A-Trak's show). But he would destroy Sahara. Seriously.

For those that haven't had the pleasure of hearing him play check out his live set for BBC Essential Mix last week with Erol Alkan (his set is the first hour and it's live so obviously not studio sound quality): http://www.newmixes.com/erol_alkan_and_a_trak-essential_mix_live_at_2020_bournemouth-sat-11-15-2008.html

As for other acts I expect to see in Sahara (most have which have been mentioned):
Plump DJ's - I've seen them once. Played the best dj set I've heard in my life (and I've seen a lot). Sounds like they might be a go this year.
The Presets - Will likely be there representing Modular. Stole the show from Cut Copy on the tour recently.
Soulwax - I've seen twice recently and are amazing. I'd be surprised if they weren't there. And you know what that means....
2ManyDJ's - they pretty much come as a package. I've seen better, but fun set.
MSTRKRFT - In Sahara a few years ago but a return seems likely and necessary. I want to have my kneecaps smashed by their sweetness.
Bloody Beetroots - Should have been there last year but that's why I'm guessing they will be there this year. Caught them a few months ago. Non stop face melt. Built for Sahara. But if them being on Dim Mak means Steve Aoki has to be there I may have to reconsider (although maybe I'l use it as a chance to shank him when he inevitably crowd surfs)
Crookers - If I had to choose I'd rather see Beetroots but these guys have a pretty strong US following and play pretty hard so I could see them there as well.
Mr. Oizo - Should be there considering the recent album. Although unfortunately it means he will probably bring his Ed Banger posse'.
Fake Blood - Pretty hard to go to an electro DJ set without hearing a track or remix of his. Will be catching him in a few weeks so we will see if his DJ skills match the production.
Boy 8-Bit - I need some sort of Mad Decent label representation. He would be my choice. Diplo is fun but played last year.

Acts I'd love to see but I don't think are likely:
The Knife - obviously
Etienne de Crecy - I cant believe I didn't know about this until I saw the post on this board. That live cube would be ridiculous. The only thing I've seen that could come close to visually matching Daft Punk.
Boys Noize - Totally destroyed HARD Holloween (and last years Coachella). But played last year.
Deadmau5 - Also played last year and as someone mentioned in another post, unless he builds some A/C into his mouse head he probably wouldn't survive the set.

That's about it. Most of these are smaller acts and not headliner material. I'll let the speculation continue with those. And before I get bashed, this post was obviously speculation based on no facts other then the fact that some of them make sense to play this year.

[Westy]

Chad?

[CalmerThanYou]

For those that haven't had the pleasure of hearing him play check out his live set for BBC Essential Mix last week with Erol Alkan (his set is the first hour and it's live so obviously not studio sound quality): http://www.newmixes.com/erol_alkan_and_a_trak-essential_mix_live_at_2020_bournemouth-sat-11-15-2008.html


First off,

Great first post. Welcome. If all lurkers made contributions like this on their first post this place would be much better on the whole.

Secondly, amen to a-trak. The reason i left that part of your quote is because its spot on. he does need to be there. also, that set is fucking nasty...its really too bad that erols set was perhaps the worst i have ever heard from him (albeit he was having technical difficulties, i thought the tracks he played were horrible).

And last but not least, EXCELLENT name + avatar...well done.

-Calmer

Oh, and as much as i PRAY AND WISH that deadmau5 would come back (yes, he did kill it at HARD), he wont. he's stated this somewhere pretty definitively.

[Westy]

Chad?

Sorry, I think Chad was Mordicai, not Mordecai.

[Westy]

I posted this in the Electronic NYE thread, but I post it here as well:

The Prodigy will give away the title track of their new album "Invaders Must Die" as a free download tomorrow (November 26).

http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/uncut/news/12506

[Mordecai]

Thanks Calmer.

Agreed on Erol's set. Please no one listen past an hour if you haven't heard Erol Alkan before. It will ruin him for you.

[electronicrevolution]

praying for the prodigy though it doesn't seem likely. Would be willing to bet deadmau5 will be there, maybe underworld

[CalmerThanYou]

Thanks Calmer.

Agreed on Erol's set. Please no one listen past an hour if you haven't heard Erol Alkan before. It will ruin him for you.

Most of the lives sets from his free podcasts are STELLAR though, FYI

[feather]

I love when the lurkers come out.

[Mordecai]

Most of the lives sets from his free podcasts are STELLAR though, FYI

Agreed. That set was uncharacteristic. Not some of his best work.

Note: I edited my first post to include Plump DJ's. I've only seen them once but it was one of the best, if not the best DJ set I've ever seen. Talk is abound that they might be around this year. Yes, please.

[HEADSTRUCK]

My Sahara 2009 (made with the intent of being realistic, not completely to my liking):

FRIDAY

12:30-1:30 Villains
1:40-2:40 Birdy Nam Nam
2:50-3:40 N.A.S.A.
4:00-5:00 Cut Copy
5:20-6:20 Ricardo Villalobos
6:40-7:25 Hercules and Love Affair
7:45-9:00 Benny Benassi
9:15-10:40 Groove Armada
11:00-END Etienne de Crecy (Live in the Cube)

SATURDAY

12:00-1:00 Danger
1:15-2:15 The Toxic Avenger
2:15-3:15 Crookers
3:15-4:15 The Bloody Beetroots
4:20-5:30 Flying Lotus
5:35-6:35 Boys Noize
6:45-7:45 Girl Talk
8:00-9:00 MSTRKRFT
9:15-10:25 The Faint
10:45-END Bassment Jaxx

SUNDAY

12:00-1:00 DJ Mehdi
1:00-2:00 Shinichi Osawa
2:00-3:00 Mr. Oizo
3:00-3:50 Weird Science
4:10-5:00 Crystal Castles
5:15-6:15 Donald Glaude
6:20-7:25 Ferry Corsten
7:45-9:00 Rabbit In The Moon
9:00-10:10 Infected Mushroom
10:30-END Armand Van Helden


thats an awful line up, i would only be in there for 2 sets(maybe only one cause i am sure there would be a conflict against RITM and i have seen them dozens of times).

[CalmerThanYou]

thats an awful line up, i would only be in there for 2 sets(maybe only one cause i am sure there would be a conflict against RITM and i have seen them dozens of times).

yeranawfulset.

[rage patton]

OH MY GOD CHAD CAME BACK!!!!!

[CalmerThanYou]

diff chad dude...










i too was pumped --> let down within 1 second.

[Backwater]

I got so excited ... all for nothing. Nobody should be allowed to have a screenname anything close to mordicai unless it's the real Chad. So disappointing

[Robototron]

My dream lineup:

FRIDAY
12:30-1:30 Morgan Geist
1:40-2:40 Noze
2:50-3:40 Skream
4:00-5:00 Luomo
5:20-6:20 Paco Osuna
6:40-7:25 Troy Pierce
7:45-9:00 Supermayer
9:15-10:40 Audion
11:00-END Sven Vath

SATURDAY
12:00-1:00 Yuksek
1:15-2:15 Brodinski
2:15-3:15 Milanese
3:15-4:15 Birdy Nam Nam
4:20-5:30 The Black Ghosts
5:35-6:35 Daedelus
6:45-7:45 Pan-Pot
8:00-9:00 Ame
9:15-10:25 Ellen Allien
10:45-END Luciano

SUNDAY
12:00-1:00 Ghislain Poirier
1:00-2:00 Drop the Lime
2:00-3:00 Flying Lotus
3:00-3:50 Hercules and Love Affair
4:10-5:00 Bruno Pronsato
5:15-6:15 Shackleton
6:20-7:25 Marcel Dettmann
7:45-9:00 Radio Slave
9:00-10:10 Gui Boratto
10:30-END Ricardo Villalobos

[rage patton]

Well, if Robotron is in charge of the Sahara... there is not one act I would go out of my way to see. I might check out Flying Lotus and Hercules & Love Afair... but thats about it.

[Robototron]

Well, if Robotron is in charge of the Sahara... there is not one act I would go out of my way to see. I might check out Flying Lotus and Hercules & Love Afair... but thats about it.

Oh, sorry, should I have thrown in Justice for the third time, MSTRKRFT, Crookers, and the Bloody Beetroots?

Yuksek, Brodinski, and the Black Ghosts are more than enough Electro-House.

[fiyahhh!]

oh shit, I thought Chad was back! Sigh...

[rage patton]

Oh, sorry, should I have thrown in Justice for the third time, MSTRKRFT, Crookers, and the Bloody Beetroots?

Yuksek, Brodinski, and the Black Ghosts are more than enough Electro-House.

I've had enough of Justice for now. I do like MSTRKRFT. I have no idea who Crookers even are. And I know of the Bloody Beatroots... but I have never really listened to them.

You know who the Sahara needs? Harmonic 313. Anyone of heard of him? (Or is it a them?) THAT would be something I would go out of my way to see. Y'know. Besides The Avalanches or The Prodigy... but I drop those names enough.

[boarderwoozel3]

OH MY GOD CHAD CAME BACK!!!!!


diff chad dude...

i too was pumped --> let down within 1 second.


I got so excited ... all for nothing. Nobody should be allowed to have a screenname anything close to mordicai unless it's the real Chad. So disappointing


oh shit, I thought Chad was back! Sigh...

Same boat fellas. My chadar was going nuts for a moment then, bleh...

Josh, I've been listening to the Avalanches album today and like it a lot. Even more intriguing that they're "known for their excellent DJ sets." I want some of that.

[action jackson]

I really really really don't like The Bloody Beetroots productions, god they are just awful noise (along with chewy chocolate cookies who are even WORSE)

however

quite a few of my friends have seen The Bloody Beetroots live and said they are awesome. Even though they also hate their production. They could definitely be a 'must see live to appreciate' kinda deal.

Also, totally agree on an A-Trak set later in the day, god that guy is gooooood!!

[action jackson]

Even more intriguing that they're "known for their excellent DJ sets." I want some of that.

Avalanches DJ set 2 years ago was one of the best i've ever seen. It was just one of those sets which gets you up to dance. Don't you think sometimes you forget the reason for seeing a DJ is to go and have fun...this was one of those sets where you're not mosh/dancing or nodding or shuffling your feet...this was one of those sets where you have a massive fucking smile plastered across your face the whole time and dancing around, slinging friends, hugging people etc etc etc

It was very good :)

[Backwater]

quite a few of my friends have seen The Bloody Beetroots live and said they are awesome. Even though they also hate their production. They could definitely be a 'must see live to appreciate' kinda deal.


Yep, they're great live.

[boarderwoozel3]

And again, it appears as I discovered Coachella one year too late. Damn.

Bring'em back! The Avalanches for 2009!

[PassiveTheory]

My dream lineup:

FRIDAY
12:30-1:30 Morgan Geist
1:40-2:40 Noze
2:50-3:40 Skream
4:00-5:00 Luomo
5:20-6:20 Paco Osuna
6:40-7:25 Troy Pierce
7:45-9:00 Supermayer
9:15-10:40 Audion
11:00-END Sven Vath

SATURDAY
12:00-1:00 Yuksek
1:15-2:15 Brodinski
2:15-3:15 Milanese
3:15-4:15 Birdy Nam Nam
4:20-5:30 The Black Ghosts
5:35-6:35 Daedelus
6:45-7:45 Pan-Pot
8:00-9:00 Ame
9:15-10:25 Ellen Allien
10:45-END Luciano

SUNDAY
12:00-1:00 Ghislain Poirier
1:00-2:00 Drop the Lime
2:00-3:00 Flying Lotus
3:00-3:50 Hercules and Love Affair
4:10-5:00 Bruno Pronsato
5:15-6:15 Shackleton
6:20-7:25 Marcel Dettmann
7:45-9:00 Radio Slave
9:00-10:10 Gui Boratto
10:30-END Ricardo Villalobos

This is really inventive and is giving me good ideas on new acts to discover... But... How do I say this without being mean... There's no way Villalobos would ever headline the Sahara and I LIKE the guy, know what I mean?

Granted, this was your dream list. Still... Without knowing a lot of the names on there, I'd probably follow suit with Rage.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

KRAAK AND SMAAK

[Robototron]

This is really inventive and is giving me good ideas on new acts to discover... But... How do I say this without being mean... There's no way Villalobos would ever headline the Sahara and I LIKE the guy, know what I mean?

Granted, this was your dream list. Still... Without knowing a lot of the names on there, I'd probably follow suit with Rage.

Yeah, no way he would he actually do it (if he ever did play they'd probably just give him an extended set in the middle of the day at best), but it's not like I wanted to pick the Chem Bros or some Trance DJ or anyone who actually would. So out of everyone else I picked, yeah, he's a definite headliner. Plus if he did show it would be his first US date in years.

[Mordecai]

Sorry everyone. I don't know who Chad is, but I'm not him. Apparently I have some large shoes to fill. I feel bad. I didn't think joining this message board would cause this much disappointment ....

And Robo I personally agree that MSTRKRFT, Beetroots and Crookers would be overkill. They are all similar in a way. However, based on last year's daytime Sahara acts, and what seems to be "hip" or "trendy" lately I could see the Beetroots or Crookers there. To be honest I hope I'm wrong. If I had a choice Crookers wouldn't be there, but based on the attendence for their set at HARD it looks like they are pretty popular (I chose to see Boys Noize which was the best decision ever). Beetroots put on a crazy live show. I don't like their production either Action, but live they are a different story, especially in a place like Sahara. I wouldn't go out of my way to see them but if they were playing I'd go for sure. MSTKRFT would be WAY better then either and my choice out of the three.

However to put any of them on the same line as Justice is a bit ridiculous. Maybe they are the same "genre" to some (although I must not know my genre's well enough, as I wouldn't have classified Black Ghosts as electro-house) but Justice, especially a DJ set, has no right to be anywhere near Coachella this year. At least ALP and JFK actually have their equalizer plugged in during their set ...

To be honest, as long as A-Trak is control of the decks for the Sahara sound system for at least an hour and a half I will be happy. But any of the Presets, Soulwax or Plump DJ's would be a nice bonus ...

[Robototron]

And Robo I personally agree that MSTRKRFT, Beetroots and Crookers would be overkill. They are all similar in a way. However, based on last year's daytime Sahara acts, and what seems to be "hip" or "trendy" lately I could see the Beetroots or Crookers there. To be honest I hope I'm wrong. If I had a choice Crookers wouldn't be there, but based on the attendence for their set at HARD it looks like they are pretty popular (I chose to see Boys Noize which was the best decision ever). Beetroots put on a crazy live show. I don't like their production either Action, but live they are a different story, especially in a place like Sahara. I wouldn't go out of my way to see them but if they were playing I'd go for sure. MSTKRFT would be WAY better then either and my choice out of the three.

Beetroots will probably be there thanks to a push by Dim Mak. Crookers I guess are pretty big, but I didn't go to HARD. I haven't really listened to them at all in months, I just remember hearing both of them around the same time and thinking they were terrible.


However to put any of them on the same line as Justice is a bit ridiculous. Maybe they are the same "genre" to some (although I must not know my genre's well enough, as I wouldn't have classified Black Ghosts as electro-house) but Justice, especially a DJ set, has no right to be anywhere near Coachella this year nor in the same league as a group like MSTRKRFT. I'm pretty sure ALP and JFK actually have their equalizer plugged in during their set ...

Beetroots, Crookers, and Justice are definitely all the genre. Black Ghosts as well. Isn't one of them Fake Blood (I stopped caring about who Fake Blood was around the same time I stopped caring about Fake Blood...about five minutes after hearing one of his tracks)? Plus the other dude was in Simian.

Justice definitely shouldn't come back for at least another few years. They're definitely in the same league as MSTRKRFT, though, actually, I'd put them way higher. When I saw them together in 06 Justice were the headliner that night, and that was long before either of them became mega-popular (although of course both were already pretty big). In terms of talent I still like them a lot more, too. MSTRKRFT got kind of boring after their tenth or so similar-sounding remix, and the last few DJ sets I've heard by them (and heard about from friends) have been awful.

Besides, in putting them all on the same line I was just commenting that all this board seems to want is the same four or so DJs over and over again. It would be nice if Goldenvoice only booked them, actually, then we'd have room for some other DJs to take over the rest of the timeslots.

[feather]

Sorry everyone. I don't know who Chad is, but I'm not him. Apparently I have some large shoes to fill. I feel bad. I didn't thinking joining this message board would cause this much disappointment...

He was the laughing stock of the board for a week, so really you don't want to fill his shoes. Carry on!

[CalmerThanYou]

Ahhhh....refreshing to have some different EDM opinions in here.

Welcome again Robo and Mordecai (Robo, i know you arent new...but...yeah)

[action jackson]

Now I totally want to know what this chad dude was like?! Fill me in a bit lol

I'm gonna get flamed for this but a Justice DJ set, i repeat, DJ (they did the live show last year) would be awesome. They are great DJ's IMHO and would definitely love to see em DJ again. Their DJ sets change, unlike the live show, so i don't think it would be stale or boring.

[CalmerThanYou]

Just saw their DJ set for the second time on halloween = lackluster at best.

[CalmerThanYou]

Now I totally want to know what this chad dude was like?! Fill me in a bit lol


READ THIS FROM THE START (http://coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22391&highlight=ahem...)

edit: he went back, and it appears, he erased almost all of his posts, but most you can see quoted in other peoples posts.

[Mordecai]

Justice definitely shouldn't come back for at least another few years. They're definitely in the same league as MSTRKRFT, though, actually, I'd put them way higher. When I saw them together in 06 Justice were the headliner that night, and that was long before either of them became mega-popular (although of course both were already pretty big). In terms of talent I still like them a lot more, too. MSTRKRFT got kind of boring after their tenth or so similar-sounding remix, and the last few DJ sets I've heard by them (and heard about from friends) have been awful.
meslots.

Are you talking about Justice live or DJ? Because they are different things and if they come back in any capacity it would probably be as a DJ set which would be unfortunate. I'd have to agree with Calmer that the two DJ sets of theirs that I've seen were not great, and I would much prefer MSTRKRFT, Bloody Beetroots or many others. But that is just my opinion. Justice live are good, they produce good music, and are ridiculously popular but I think it's unanimous that people in fact DON'T want them to return for a third year in a row.

But I'd also love to see different acts. That's why I go to Coachella. In fact, given the ones of your list I know I know (Ellen Allien, Gui Boratto, Hercules and Love Affair, Drop the Lime) I'm going to check out the rest of your list.

[Backwater]

edit: he went back, and it appears, he erased almost all of his posts

Fuck that. I was looking forward to reading that again some day. On the bright side though, if he actually cares enough to erase everything then maybe he plans on coming back.

[PassiveTheory]

I didn't even fucking see Ellen Allien the first time I read that. How come no Apparat with her?