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whynotsmile99
06-10-2008, 09:23 PM
Let's discuss


http://ashleymadison.com/


I hear the ads all the time on 97.1 during Tom Lykis, funny enough

I wonder if you can join without being in a relationship to cheat on.

orbit
06-10-2008, 09:31 PM
what's that about?

menikmati
06-10-2008, 09:38 PM
What a horrible concept.

tessalasset
06-10-2008, 09:48 PM
That was a huge billboard on Sunset for a while.

whynotsmile99
06-10-2008, 09:49 PM
what's that about?

it's an online dating website specially designed for people wishing to cheat on their spouses/boy/girlfriend

menikmati
06-11-2008, 07:09 AM
What does that say about us as a whole? When we have fucking billboards advertising this kind of shit? Pretty pathetic and lame.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 07:14 AM
hahaha

Basically its the first step to becoming a swinger.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 07:18 AM
"Ashley Madison" sounds like two 8th grade girls who go hang out together after school.

as for the concept, it's just another example of the internet making markets more efficient.

marooko
06-11-2008, 07:23 AM
i wanna hang out with them......im kidding. jesus.

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 07:26 AM
is this an escort service?

TomAz
06-11-2008, 07:37 AM
are you unable to read?

marooko
06-11-2008, 07:39 AM
whats this about?

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 07:39 AM
"online dating service" sounds to me like an escort service...unless it's free

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 07:41 AM
"Life Is Short. Have an Affair"

I guess you can find anything on the internetz.

Simple motto, but straight to the point. To make even more profit, they should have ad banners for divorce lawyers and private STD clinics for those times when discretion isn't really discreet anymore.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 07:42 AM
Yes, that would be a good marketing strategy. Provide turnkey service.

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 08:30 AM
Indeed. Because I think these people will have to compensate for funds when enlistment drops, having something relevant marketed will keep them afloat better than a banner depicting a link to win a free ipod...but then again, if the wifey finds out you're a client--the only noise you'll be hearing is probably out of your ipod as you eat dinner in morbid silence...

TomAz
06-11-2008, 08:33 AM
... and the married chick you were fooling around with has dumped you because you're no longer married...

faxman75
06-11-2008, 08:34 AM
"online dating service" sounds to me like an escort service...unless it's free


You don't know the difference between an escort service and a dating service? JDate, Match, Yahoo, E harmony. All dating services that charge money but do not offer the services of an escort service.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 08:34 AM
Or your wife finds your profile while shes cruising the site.

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 08:35 AM
... and the married chick you were fooling around with has dumped you because you're no longer married...

Because the thrill of the hunt has grown cold...on to the next married man.

For some odd reason, this thread makes me want to go on a cougar hunt.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 08:36 AM
What does that say about us as a whole? When we have fucking billboards advertising this kind of shit? Pretty pathetic and lame.

Ashley Madison isn't responsible for it. The divorce rate is well over 50%. Marriage is pretty pathetic, so why not advertise this service. Marriage isn't sacred, it's bullshit. The ones that are sacred won't be affected. :)

TomAz
06-11-2008, 08:37 AM
Ashley Madison isn't responsible for it. The divorce rate is well over 50%. Marriage is pretty pathetic, so why not advertise this service. Marriage isn't sacred, it's bullshit. The ones that are sacred won't be affected. :)

like I said. just the internet making a market more efficient.

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 08:38 AM
Ashley Madison isn't responsible for it. The divorce rate is well over 50%. Marriage is pretty pathetic, so why not advertise this service. Marriage isn't sacred, it's bullshit. The ones that are sacred won't be affected. :)

Sacred = More than 6 zeros in the bank account.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 08:38 AM
wow. you sure you're not from Scottsdale?

marooko
06-11-2008, 08:41 AM
whats up in Scottsdale?

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 08:43 AM
Perhaps my last post indicates that I believe marriage to be sacred if, and only if, there's monetary security involved. However, I meant it as a dig at the continued disintegration of marriage.

I've only been to Phoenix...

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 08:46 AM
You don't know the difference between an escort service and a dating service? JDate, Match, Yahoo, E harmony. All dating services that charge money but do not offer the services of an escort service.


Are you joking?

The thing says do you want to cheat. Cheating means fucking, to me anyway. These other sites you talk about say nothing about cheating.

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 08:47 AM
whats up in Scottsdale?

SLUTS...lots of them!

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 09:00 AM
SLUTS...lots of them!

This is true as verified by TheDirty.com...

full on idle
06-11-2008, 09:02 AM
I thought the only people that live in Scottsdale were about to die elderlies.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 09:03 AM
whats up in Scottsdale?


SLUTS...lots of them!

Money grubbing, boob job platinum blonde trophy wife sluts, to be exact.

full on idle
06-11-2008, 09:08 AM
oh Arizona, you are so interesting. Let's make every thread about your dusty grounds.

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 09:12 AM
Money grubbing, boob job platinum blonde trophy wife sluts, to be exact.

So Tom, would I be correct in saying that Scottsdale is the O.C. of Arizona?

Young blood
06-11-2008, 09:16 AM
AZ hates the blacks.

whynotsmile99
06-11-2008, 09:17 AM
Ashley Madison isn't responsible for it. The divorce rate is well over 50%. Marriage is pretty pathetic, so why not advertise this service. Marriage isn't sacred, it's bullshit. The ones that are sacred won't be affected. :)

take me out African Tribal Style, Tom!

"Balinga Balinga Balilnga..."

menikmati
06-11-2008, 09:17 AM
Ashley Madison isn't responsible for it. The divorce rate is well over 50%. Marriage is pretty pathetic, so why not advertise this service. Marriage isn't sacred, it's bullshit. The ones that are sacred won't be affected. :)

Doesn't matter who's responsible for it, the fact that a site like that would exist is pathetic and embarrassing. And even with a high divorce rate, why encourage it? It's like adding fuel to the fire for no good reason at all. It's disgusting.

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 09:22 AM
What if it was a settup.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 09:24 AM
Are you joking?

The thing says do you want to cheat. Cheating means fucking, to me anyway. These other sites you talk about say nothing about cheating.


These girls are not escorts. Cheating doesn't always mean sex. If you are having an emotional relationship with someone on a private and intimate level you are cheating. You are getting something that you cannot get from your partner elsewhere. If the men and women on the site aren't getting paid, and the only people getting paid are those that run the site, then it's not escorting. It's common sense. Cheating is simply the catch word that brings you in. Even if it was just all about sex it's still not escorting.

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 09:25 AM
Doesn't matter who's responsible for it, the fact that a site like that would exist is pathetic and embarrassing. And even with a high divorce rate, why encourage it? It's like adding fuel to the fire for no good reason at all. It's disgusting.

While I agree with you on the pathetic and embarrasing part, I don't know if a website like this would make much difference in the pursuasion of infidelity. If you're looking at a website like this and taking it seriously, there are already seeds of cheating there.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 09:28 AM
Doesn't matter who's responsible for it, the fact that a site like that would exist is pathetic and embarrassing. And even with a high divorce rate, why encourage it? It's like adding fuel to the fire for no good reason at all. It's disgusting.


It's a matter of opinion. Your moral code obviously frowns upon such acts. Does the site encourage betrayal? Sure. the only people responsible for betraying their partner are the ones doing it. It's their decision. Tom hit the nail on the head. It's simply making the market more efficient. The company isn't the scumbag here. It's the people who engage in the cheating that suck. If you can profit from people acting like douchebags i'm all for it. It doesn't make the business owner a scum bag.

menikmati
06-11-2008, 09:30 AM
While I agree with you on the pathetic and embarrasing part, I don't know if a website like this would make much difference in the pursuasion of infidelity. If you're looking at a website like this and taking it seriously, there are already seeds of cheating there.

I agree with you too, that if someone is looking at the site and really taking it seriously and what not, then yeah, there usually already are problems to begin with...but at the same time, I still don't get the need to encourage these kind of things....too many people can get hurt, and I don't get the joy (talking about the people/company running the site) of running and encouraging participation in a site like this. It's degrading.

full on idle
06-11-2008, 09:31 AM
Somebody that starts a business to make it easier for people to cheat on their partners is pretty scummy.

Jenniehoo
06-11-2008, 09:33 AM
It's short-lived fame for the creator with very little capital and minimal effort. I wonder if they even considered the moral implications of what they were creating - I bet they didn't. And now it probably makes them too much money for them to worry about it.

menikmati
06-11-2008, 09:34 AM
It's a matter of opinion. Your moral code obviously frowns upon such acts. Does the site encourage betrayal? Sure. the only people responsible for betraying their partner are the ones doing it. It's their decision. Tom hit the nail on the head. It's simply making the market more efficient. The company isn't the scumbag here. It's the people who engage in the cheating that suck. If you can profit from people acting like douchebags i'm all for it. It doesn't make the business owner a scum bag.

Yes, this does frown upon my morals/values. And yes I agree, the main people responsible for it are the users themselves, who should (I would hope) know better than to go and participate in the site...but that doesn't let the owners/creators of the site off the hook in my book...yeah I get it they are capitalizing off these kind of people, and I guess if there's money to be made, somebody will try it, so more power to em....still makes them pathetic, scummy people with low morals and values in their lives and thoughts too though. Just my opinion.

Hopeless Semantic
06-11-2008, 09:34 AM
I agree with you too, that if someone is looking at the site and really taking it seriously and what not, then yeah, there usually already are problems to begin with...but at the same time, I still don't get the need to encourage these kind of things....too many people can get hurt, and I don't get the joy (talking about the people/company running the site) of running and encouraging participation in a site like this. It's degrading.

True. Its what you come to expect from the internet though in my opinion. I mean, porn in itself is degrading and the further down you go in the scope of pornography, you find even more degradation and it stems back to making a buck off of human weakness. Even though we try to identify the good of life, most of what we do is a business. From the food we eat and the sex we desire, profit will be made on it. It's capitalizing on the principles of capitalism.

full on idle
06-11-2008, 09:41 AM
It's short-lived fame for the creator with very little capital and minimal effort. I wonder if they even considered the moral implications of what they were creating - I bet they didn't. And now it probably makes them too much money for them to worry about it.

Somebody that starts a business to make it easier for people to cheat on their partners who doesn't consider the moral implications of what he/she is creating is pretty scummy.

Jenniehoo
06-11-2008, 09:46 AM
They're Canadian.

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 09:46 AM
This is a billboard in Vegas that has been causing some commotion

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p39/p_rock79/8303653_BG1.jpg



Wanna make $500? Well, if you call the number on the sign, you'll know pretty quickly what this gig entails.

Company Voicemail: "We're looking for people interested in auditioning for an adult production company."

For $500, you'll have to get naked and aroused on-camera.

Company Voicemail: "For both one-time 'Hey, I'm in Vegas, let's do-something-daring work' and those interested in making this the start of becoming the next big porn star."

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8303653&nav=menu102_2

Jenniehoo
06-11-2008, 09:47 AM
Does Ashley Madison encourage infidelity?

No, Ashley Madison does not encourage anyone to stray. In fact, if you are having difficulty with your relationship, you should seek counseling. However, if you still feel that you will seek a person other than your partner to fill your unmet needs, then we truly believe that our service is the best place to start. At Ashley Madison, you can communicate with other like-minded adults who may be more sympathetic to your circumstances. You never compromise your safety, privacy or security and will never have to reveal your identity unless you choose to. You can go at your own pace and change your mind any time you wish.


How Long has Ashley Madison been in business?
The Ashley Madison Agency was started in late 2001 and officially launched our website to the public on January 21st, 2002.

Doesn't a service like Ashley Madison make it Easier for people to Stray?
Of course not. People don't stray because it is easy or convenient. Most stray because they are missing something in their relationship and feel they need or deserve more than their primary partner offers. Providing a service like ours does not make someone more likely to stray any more than increasing the availability of glassware contributes to alcoholism. No report contradicts this finding. On the other hand, putting up barriers and making it difficult to stray has never discouraged infidelity; if anything, it simply makes people want to even more.

Why does Ashley Madison offer an outlet for people that don't care about their spouses?
Unfortunately, stereotypes about philanderers abound. Most unfaithful people do care about their spouse and will take steps to work out their problems. Our role is to keep them from taking unnecessary risks while they explore the feelings that got them to our website to begin with. Helping individuals stay safe and anonymous impacts the potential outcome of their decisions.

This website seems like a radical idea. What do people have to say about it?
Public opinion is clearly in favor of a free and democratic society that lets people do as they wish, including signing on to our service to have an affair - (Even if they would not use our service themselves). A recent survey suggested that as many as 75% of those polled believed that: "While 'cheating' was inherently wrong, we should still have the right as a free society to make up our own minds". Besides, the most fatal decision is that of a settled point of view.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 09:49 AM
The owners could be faithful entrepeneurs. Why make moral judgments against their personal lives just because they found a profitable business that doesn't jive with your moral code? I can find something immoral about most companies in america. I don't see why some dudes making some cash off of cheaters makes him scum or somehow less moral than you. Business is business.

downingthief
06-11-2008, 09:50 AM
Money grubbing, boob job platinum blonde trophy wife sluts, to be exact.

Not all of us! :)

faxman75
06-11-2008, 09:52 AM
Oh, i'm not in Scottsdale anymore. I guess I should change that now. I want to claim Tempe but it's actually pheonix by a block.

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 09:52 AM
Providing a service like ours does not make someone more likely to stray any more than increasing the availability of glassware contributes to alcoholism.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 09:53 AM
Im going to hire professional hackers to do their and come up on mad money from extortion from this site.

Jenniehoo
06-11-2008, 09:53 AM
Providing a service like ours does not make someone more likely to stray any more than increasing the availability of glassware contributes to alcoholism.

Yeah, that's my favorite part. People don't kill people - bullets kill people.

luckyface
06-11-2008, 09:55 AM
I love how they claim to not encourage anyone to cheat, yet their fucking slogan is "Life is short. Have an affair." Fuck them.

They can do whatever they want and sites like this would exist without them, but it is pretty low in my opinion. The advertising and commercialism behind it is what makes it so bad.

menikmati
06-11-2008, 09:57 AM
The owners could be faithful entrepeneurs. Why make moral judgments against their personal lives just because they found a profitable business that doesn't jive with your moral code? I can find something immoral about most companies in america. I don't see why some dudes making some cash off of cheaters makes him scum or somehow less moral than you. Business is business.

They're scumbags, sorry. They can use all the fancy language and whatever else they want to on their site to try and convince you otherwise, but it ain't gonna work on me. The fact is, they run a website that encourages people to cheat and become involved in other relationships other than the ones they are already in (whether it be they're married, engaged, or just "going out"). They actually had the idea of "hey let's make a site where we get people to cheat on each other, and we'll advertise it as that, and we'll make money off it" running through their head.....that shows no class and/or morals, and again makes them (as said over and over in here) SCUM.

full on idle
06-11-2008, 09:57 AM
I don't see why some dudes making some cash off of cheaters makes him scum or somehow less moral than you.

I do.


Business is business.

So then it's okay if I start selling kids? Or how about if I start a business that makes it easier for people to break into your house. Keep your sticky moral code away from my entrepreneurial rights!

menikmati
06-11-2008, 09:59 AM
I love how they claim to not encourage anyone to cheat, yet their fucking slogan is "Life is short. Have an affair." Fuck them.

They can do whatever they want and sites like this would exist without them, but it is pretty low in my opinion. The advertising and commercialism behind it is what makes it so bad.

Exactly, it's right there in the title of the website itself. Fuck them.

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 09:59 AM
Okay, leave it to me to stir shit up around here. Out of curiosity and fucking boredom, I just went and checked this site out. Fuck, I even registered, for Christ's sakes! Not because I'm looking to fuck up the wonderful relationship I have, but to see what all the fuss is about. I got the impression that it's basically like Match.com or any of those other "hunting sites" except this one does cater to those that are involved in a relationship as well as singles that are "on the prowl" as they say. I think the fact that they advertise the cheating part is basically a marketing ploy myself. ( Like trying to one-up the other sites.) Personally, it's not my thing, but looking at some of those profiles makes you appreciate a good thing if you have it. Now, if this board doesn't get alittle more exciting today, I'm gonna go fuck with people over there just for kicks, God dammit!

Young blood
06-11-2008, 10:02 AM
PUKE!

Melanie.Dawn
06-11-2008, 10:02 AM
Wow. This is so ... sick? I hate it! I can't believe it exisits. "Life is short... have an affair'....WTF? Are you kidding me? No wonder no one trusts anyone anymore. And the argument that they are good people who made the site is clearly untrue with their lack of assuming any responsibility in the Q&A posted above. If they said 'yes, this ecourages cheating but... what can you do'.. instead of 'no! this doesn't encourage it at all! infact, without us, people would cheat MORE'... it's like... wow, you guys really are total douches.

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 10:03 AM
When I say "Fuck with people there," I mean like responding to some guys ad as if I were his wife....Take that Ashley-whatever the fuck your name is!

TomAz
06-11-2008, 10:05 AM
It's a matter of opinion. Your moral code obviously frowns upon such acts. Does the site encourage betrayal? Sure. the only people responsible for betraying their partner are the ones doing it. It's their decision. Tom hit the nail on the head. It's simply making the market more efficient. The company isn't the scumbag here. It's the people who engage in the cheating that suck. If you can profit from people acting like douchebags i'm all for it. It doesn't make the business owner a scum bag.

Just cuz it makes a market more efficient doesn't mean it's not scummy. Which it is.


Somebody that starts a business to make it easier for people to cheat on their partners is pretty scummy.

agreed


It's short-lived fame for the creator with very little capital and minimal effort. I wonder if they even considered the moral implications of what they were creating - I bet they didn't. And now it probably makes them too much money for them to worry about it.

probably so


Somebody that starts a business to make it easier for people to cheat on their partners who doesn't consider the moral implications of what he/she is creating is pretty scummy.

still agreed


They're Canadian.

figures


Does Ashley Madison encourage infidelity?

No, Ashley Madison does not encourage anyone to stray. In fact, if you are having difficulty with your relationship, you should seek counseling. However, if you still feel that you will seek a person other than your partner to fill your unmet needs, then we truly believe that our service is the best place to start. At Ashley Madison, you can communicate with other like-minded adults who may be more sympathetic to your circumstances. You never compromise your safety, privacy or security and will never have to reveal your identity unless you choose to. You can go at your own pace and change your mind any time you wish.


How Long has Ashley Madison been in business?
The Ashley Madison Agency was started in late 2001 and officially launched our website to the public on January 21st, 2002.

Doesn't a service like Ashley Madison make it Easier for people to Stray?
Of course not. People don't stray because it is easy or convenient. Most stray because they are missing something in their relationship and feel they need or deserve more than their primary partner offers. Providing a service like ours does not make someone more likely to stray any more than increasing the availability of glassware contributes to alcoholism. No report contradicts this finding. On the other hand, putting up barriers and making it difficult to stray has never discouraged infidelity; if anything, it simply makes people want to even more.

Why does Ashley Madison offer an outlet for people that don't care about their spouses?
Unfortunately, stereotypes about philanderers abound. Most unfaithful people do care about their spouse and will take steps to work out their problems. Our role is to keep them from taking unnecessary risks while they explore the feelings that got them to our website to begin with. Helping individuals stay safe and anonymous impacts the potential outcome of their decisions.

This website seems like a radical idea. What do people have to say about it?
Public opinion is clearly in favor of a free and democratic society that lets people do as they wish, including signing on to our service to have an affair - (Even if they would not use our service themselves). A recent survey suggested that as many as 75% of those polled believed that: "While 'cheating' was inherently wrong, we should still have the right as a free society to make up our own minds". Besides, the most fatal decision is that of a settled point of view.

those people are in some serious denial. Or they're giggling all the way to the bank.


The owners could be faithful entrepeneurs. Why make moral judgments against their personal lives just because they found a profitable business that doesn't jive with your moral code? I can find something immoral about most companies in america. I don't see why some dudes making some cash off of cheaters makes him scum or somehow less moral than you. Business is business.

You can't possibly actually believe this. This logic isn't libertarian, it's anarchic.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 10:07 AM
Not all of us! :)

I should have said North Scottsdale. ever been to the FBR?

but this isn't about dusty old Arizona.

Melanie.Dawn
06-11-2008, 10:10 AM
They're Canadian.

Also, to defend Canada... I am too Canadian, and would never ever ever cheat. No matter how unhappy, horney, drunk... I EVER was I wouldn't. I have been cheated on and I know how it feels (along with many others I'm sure). I just couldn't do that to someone.

Also, on my own moral stance, I would never pursue or even remotly show any interest in someone who was already in a relationship. People who don't respect another couples relationship... regardless of what they think they know... are just as bad as the cheater IN the relationship.. if you ask me. !!!

Sexecutioner
06-11-2008, 10:12 AM
The owners could be faithful entrepeneurs. Why make moral judgments against their personal lives just because they found a profitable business that doesn't jive with your moral code? I can find something immoral about most companies in america. I don't see why some dudes making some cash off of cheaters makes him scum or somehow less moral than you. Business is business.

i love how people always use capitalism to justify anything that makes a buck, no matter how immoral it is. this is like the whole scalping argument. "these people are just entrepreneurs. they found a way to make a profit, so good for them." fuck that. people should use a little bit of moral judgment when trying to make a living. unbridled capitalism with no regard for how your actions affect others is disgusting and pathetic, and makes you a shitty human being.

chairmenmeow47
06-11-2008, 10:14 AM
there should be some option that notifies your spouse when you've "sealed the deal" so they can get the fuck out.

luckyface
06-11-2008, 10:19 AM
there should be some option that notifies your spouse when you've "sealed the deal" so they can get the fuck out.

That's a good idea. Like a "Congratulations! You have just been cheated on! Here some divorce lawyers in your area" email. They could then charge a referral fee to the lawyers. You just came up with a new revenue source, Ivy.

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 10:22 AM
Since I was only able to checkout guys looking for whatever and girls looking for other girls, I couldn't get a ratio total, but, how sad...there are alot of scummy cheaters out there.

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 10:26 AM
Or your wife finds your profile while shes cruising the site. That's funny. Honestly, because I had to give my zip code, all the profiles were from my general area. Don't think I didn't scan through to see if I knew anybody! Yikes! That would be terrible!

TomAz
06-11-2008, 10:28 AM
i love how people always use capitalism to justify anything that makes a buck, no matter how immoral it is. this is like the whole scalping argument. "these people are just entrepreneurs. they found a way to make a profit, so good for them." fuck that. people should use a little bit of moral judgment when trying to make a living. unbridled capitalism with no regard for how your actions affect others is disgusting and pathetic, and makes you a shitty human being.

good point. Stalin was so moral.

Jenniehoo
06-11-2008, 10:31 AM
Also, to defend Canada... I am too Canadian, and would never ever ever cheat. No matter how unhappy, horney, drunk... I EVER was I wouldn't. I have been cheated on and I know how it feels (along with many others I'm sure). I just couldn't do that to someone.

Also, on my own moral stance, I would never pursue or even remotly show any interest in someone who was already in a relationship. People who don't respect another couples relationship... regardless of what they think they know... are just as bad as the cheater IN the relationship.. if you ask me. !!!

I just said they're Canadian. I looked at the "About Us" and it said "we're from Toronto," so I thought, "Huh. They're Canadian," and I wrote, "They're Canadian." Then I sat back and stared at the computer screen. Then a bug landed on my eyeball and I didn't even blink.

Just so you know - it really was that empty-headed. My favorite aunt is Canadian. They don't all cheat, eh?

faxman75
06-11-2008, 10:34 AM
I do.



So then it's okay if I start selling kids? Or how about if I start a business that makes it easier for people to break into your house. Keep your sticky moral code away from my entrepreneurial rights!

Now we enter the morals versus legality debate. According to society it is LEGAL not cheat on your spouce however, they kind of frown upon human traficking and burglary.

chairmenmeow47
06-11-2008, 10:34 AM
good point. Stalin was so moral.

:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

faxman75
06-11-2008, 10:38 AM
i love how people always use capitalism to justify anything that makes a buck, no matter how immoral it is. this is like the whole scalping argument. "these people are just entrepreneurs. they found a way to make a profit, so good for them." fuck that. people should use a little bit of moral judgment when trying to make a living. unbridled capitalism with no regard for how your actions affect others is disgusting and pathetic, and makes you a shitty human being.

Scalping is legal is most states. Not to start that debate again, but everyone has different specifics that justify their actions. Most people think it's ok as long as you intended to go to the show to begin with but then couldn't. Some say ebay should ban scalping. Or it's ok as long as you sell it for face value. Scalping morals are all over the board. I'm alright with scalpers. I have no issue with people who buy 4 tickets instead of 2 to a show that they speculate might sell out so they can make a couple of bucks. At the end of the day they very well may lose their entire investment. :)

faxman75
06-11-2008, 10:40 AM
unbridled capitalism with no regard for how your actions affect others is disgusting and pathetic, and makes you a shitty human being.

So pretty much anyone who works for the fast food industry and the tobacco industry for starters.....

TomAz
06-11-2008, 10:44 AM
Now we enter the morals versus legality debate. According to society it is LEGAL not cheat on your spouce however, they kind of frown upon human traficking and burglary.

Right. and no one is saying the government should arrest the website operators. we're just saying they're scumbags. which they are.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 10:55 AM
I understand your opinion. I don't know them though and I don't think they are scumbags because they found a way to make some cash. I put a random friend in this situation. Say he comes to me and tells me of an idea he got for a website and it's been doing well. i wouldn't have a problem with my friend if he was running Ashley Madison but I guess that's where we differ, maybe if a friend of yours told you he was making millions with is Ashley Madison idea, you would no longer want him as a friend because he was now a scumbag in your eyes. To me, he's the same guy with a business idea.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 10:59 AM
I just said they're Canadian. I looked at the "About Us" and it said "we're from Toronto," so I thought, "Huh. They're Canadian," and I wrote, "They're Canadian." Then I sat back and stared at the computer screen. Then a bug landed on my eyeball and I didn't even blink.

Just so you know - it really was that empty-headed. My favorite aunt is Canadian. They don't all cheat, eh?

I think she may have been referring to my "figures" comment. Since she's Canadian she probably doesn't understand that making fun of Canada is fun to do because it's so utterly pointless, and yet often causes strong reactions from Canadians. I mean, really, making fun of Canada and Canadians is like making fun of nothingness, except that nothingness doesn't get all bent out of shape when you do.

I wish we had Loonies and Toonies though. those are cool.

Sexecutioner
06-11-2008, 11:01 AM
Scalping is legal is most states. Not to start that debate again, but everyone has different specifics that justify their actions.

im not going to get into the whole scalping argument either. the fact that you use it being legal as an argument means you clearly dont get my point in the first place. since i guess you need it spelled out: legal/illegal and moral/immoral are 2 completely different things which you, and many other people seem to think are the same. just because something is legal, doesnt mean its the right thing to do.


So pretty much anyone who works for the fast food industry and the tobacco industry for starters.....

how is fast food is immoral? sure, its disgusting and makes people fat, but I wouldnt call it immoral. people know what they are getting, they have the choice to eat it or not, and it only hurts themselves. tobacco industry is a bit different though, since up until recently, they went to great lengths to lie about the addictive properties of nicotine. thats pretty immoral if ya ask me. as long as they come clean about the product they are selling though, then who gives a shit.

twoheadedboy
06-11-2008, 11:06 AM
why do we have to have a website for this?
can't people just go to a bar ALONE without their significant other.. get fucked up and then fuck a cute random stranger? is that so much to ask? instead of courting some freak on the interwebz?

faxman75
06-11-2008, 11:15 AM
im not going to get into the whole scalping argument either. the fact that you use it being legal as an argument means you clearly dont get my point in the first place. since i guess you need it spelled out: legal/illegal and moral/immoral are 2 completely different things which you, and many other people seem to think are the same. just because something is legal, doesnt mean its the right thing to do.

I don't think legal means right, my examples are two things I don't have an issue with. There are plenty of laws I don't agree with morally. There are plenty of morals that I don't think should be laws either. Everyone is different.




how is fast food is immoral? sure, its disgusting and makes people fat, but I wouldnt call it immoral. people know what they are getting, they have the choice to eat it or not, and it only hurts themselves. tobacco industry is a bit different though, since up until recently, they went to great lengths to lie about the addictive properties of nicotine. thats pretty immoral if ya ask me. as long as they come clean about the product they are selling though, then who gives a shit.

Fast food is bad for your health. Plain and simple. They cater to an unhealthy society. Morally that's not good, is it? You support a company like McDonalds that advertises their unhealthy foods to kids? I dunno, i'm sure some find them to be immoral.

The point is people are going to cheat with or without this site. There isn't a line of people that was formed waiting to cheat and now that this site is here it became the green light. Morally, i hate cheaters and cheating. I've never cheated and I have been cheated on. If the person you are with is signed up and looking around it's only a matter of time before the relationship ends, right? I would think this service might save the hurt person some time and speed along the process of breaking up. I dunno. I just have zero issue with the person making a buck on this.

luckyface
06-11-2008, 11:19 AM
Fast food is bad for your health. Plain and simple. They cater to an unhealthy society. Morally that's not good, is it? You support a company like McDonalds that advertises their unhealthy foods to kids? I dunno, i'm sure some find them to be immoral.

The point is people are going to cheat with or without this site. There isn't a line of people that was formed waiting to cheat and now that this site is here it became the green light. Morally, i hate cheaters and cheating. I've never cheated and I have been cheated on. If the person you are with is signed up and looking around it's only a matter of time before the relationship ends, right? I would think this service might save the hurt person some time and speed along the process of breaking up. I dunno. I just have zero issue with the person making a buck on this.

And people are going to eat unhealthy food with or without fast food restaurants. What is your point?

If you hate cheaters and cheating, why are you so quick to defend a bunch of people who are encouraging it? And all because of the lame and flawed "they are just making a buck" argument, no less.

chairmenmeow47
06-11-2008, 11:24 AM
i hate cigarettes, but i have no problem with the people who enjoy and sell them. because it's not my business.

i also think people should have the freedom to be the biggest scumbags around in the marketplace, as long as they follow the law. they're the ones who have to live with being a scumbag. let them deal with the consequences of being a douche.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 11:30 AM
And people are going to eat unhealthy food with or without fast food restaurants. What is your point?

that there are plenty of immoral businesses that good moral poeple work for. You can find the act immoral and not participate but still live off of the procedes or profits.




If you hate cheaters and cheating, why are you so quick to defend a bunch of people who are encouraging it?

They are providing a service. They aren't forcing people to do anything they aren't already doing and like I said, there wasn't a line of people just waiting for a site like this before they made the leap to cheating. Cheaters always existed and always will with or without sites like this so why hold these people morally responsible. they simpley created a website for scumbags to use if they wanted to.



And all because of the lame and flawed "they are just making a buck" argument, no less.


It's not a flawed argument. It might be "lame" but it's a valid argument. Someone found a way to make a buck. I wish I had thought of it first and had the capital and marketing behind it. As it stands, i'm just a scumbag who supports it apparently.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 11:33 AM
My point is simple. The ones who need to have moral responsibility are the members not the business owners. Why be angry with the business or website owner? Be angry with the society that breeds these cheaters.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 11:36 AM
My point is simple. The ones who need to have moral responsibility are the members not the business owners. Why be angry with the business or website owner? Be angry with the society that breeds these cheaters.

Im taking a wild guess here but Im sure the owners of the site fit in the same category as the people that utilize this site.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 11:40 AM
That is a wild guess. Why would the owners of a business have to participate in the business practices? The fact of the matter is without this site people are still cruising the other date sites and craigslist to cheat. This site didn't create cheaters. It silly to presume the owners of the business somehow must be married and cheating as well. WE don't know them but lets see if google tells us anything about who these people are.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 11:42 AM
I invented guns because I hate to hunt. It was more of a protection thing from wild boars....but I dont even use the gun. I just shoo them away with my broom.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 11:45 AM
J money ftw.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 11:51 AM
I invented guns because I hate to hunt. It was more of a protection thing from wild boars....but I dont even use the gun. I just shoo them away with my broom.

Just because you use an analogy doesn't make the argument logical. Are you really arguing that in order to run a business you have to use the product yourself?

I found some interviews with the guy.


Have you used your own service?
I'm married with two kids, and I hope that I'm not one of those people who find a need for a service like mine but clearly it's out there.

Would you be okay with your wife using your service?
No. If my wife were using my service, or any dating service, or if I even found her on Facebook chatting with former boyfriends and not telling me about it, I would be emotionally hurt beyond belief, and would feel that our relationship had severe problems. To me, a healthy relationship is one where there is communication and honesty and emotional and physical connectivity. I would hope that that is what is going on in my current relationship, and if not, I'd have to look at myself, and my responsibilities. But if my wife were engaging in such a service, then clearly our relationship would be in trouble.


http://onlinepersonalswatch.typepad.com/news/2008/04/noel-biderman-a.html

Blinken
06-11-2008, 11:51 AM
I could be wrong but it is a couple who started the site they were on Kevin and Bean awhile back. They are a happy couple and they don't cheat on each other.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 11:53 AM
they're still scumbags in my book. actually probably even more scumbags than before.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 11:53 AM
Some more from another site....cnn interview...I just figured this would be good since we are now discussing the guys character.

COLLINS: And you say that you are not promoting cheating by setting up a Web site like this, but what about the couples who let's say, are maybe a little bit unhappy in their marriage, but they wouldn't normally think about cheating until they found a Web site like yours?

MORGENSTERN: I think if a couple normally wouldn't feel like cheating, they're still not going to cheat. Couples run into problems all the time and people have their challenges.

It's those that are really pre-disposed to cheating, you know, who feel they're missing something in the relationship, that are affairs waiting to happen, those are the ones that are going to cheat. And for those people, they'd find their way and if their way is to Ashley Madison, where they can start safely and anonymously, then we know that that's the affair that was waiting to happen and those people are there for a reason.

COLLINS: And you don't see anything wrong with this at all? You're kind of proud of the idea that you came up with, right?

MORGENSTERN: I think as a marketer you always want to be able to fill a need in the marketplace. You want to be able to speak to the needs of people listening. And no, there's nothing wrong with making a profit.

COLLINS: Let me ask you this. You are happily married?

MORGENSTERN: Yep.

COLLINS: How would you feel in your wife used your Web site?

MORGENSTERN: If my wife cheated on me, whether it was on our Web site, whether it was at the office place, or with the next-door neighbor, then I'm going to have to not only, you know, examine our relationship, I'm going to have to also take some responsibility, some ownership myself. Because there would have been a breakdown in the marriage, in our communication, something was wrong for her to be able to or to want to actually look outside our relationship.

COLLINS: Your service has been in business now for quite awhile. Have you ever had anybody come to you and say, "Jeez, you know, I really regret going to that Web site." Think about people who maybe their marriages have not survived after cheating?

MORGENSTERN: We have people that do approach us, and the grass always can look greener on the other side. People do have change of hearts and they feel they want to go back to their doting wives and loving families. And for those people we commend them, good for them.

If anything, you should use Ashley Madison as a last resort, not as a first opportunity. You should get counseling if you're having problems in your relationship. And for those that want to leave our Web site and make their marriage work, then I really think that they should.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 11:55 AM
awesome. I wish them the best. Its going to suck when dude comes home to find his wife as the honorary conductor of the dong train one day.

Im telling you this site is the gateway to swinging.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 11:55 AM
"but for the rest of you, we'll happily take your money"

faxman75
06-11-2008, 11:58 AM
Some interesting numbers.
A Gallup poll in May found that 91 percent of U.S. adults consider infidelity to be "morally wrong." But a 2002 survey by the National Opinion Research Center found that 18 percent of people had committed adultery.

Blinken
06-11-2008, 11:59 AM
18% seems way too low to me.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 12:01 PM
why do you find those numbers 'interesting'?

Blinken
06-11-2008, 12:03 PM
I think he is surprised that 9% of people can judge themselves as immoral.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 12:04 PM
For one 18% seems low to me as well. I'm amused by the number being higher for those who find it morally wrong. I mean it's just numbers. It's interesting because it tells you how people answer, it shows how people who do it also have some shame and the numbers are probably way lower than in reality because of the shame factor.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 12:06 PM
I don't think it's that absolute. People change over time.


Do you think adultery is immoral ? is a question about what you think right now

Have you ever.. ? is a question about what you may have ever done over the span of your life


the "oh I cheated on my first wife and it was a huge mistake, I'll never do that again, I now see how wrong it was" is not unusual.

luckyface
06-11-2008, 12:06 PM
I am sure most people who are cheating know it is morally wrong on some level. Otherwise, you wouldn't have people sneaking around on douchebag sites. People go against morals all of the time.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 12:07 PM
I think he is surprised that 9% of people can judge themselves as immoral.

and this begs another interesting discussion. How many people in general on this board would call themselves immoral. If so is it something they are working on. We all have a different set of morals as well so it makes it difficult to even debate. I don't think i'm immoral but if I told you the things I do i'm guessing some might find me to be an immoral person.

It can also go a whole other direction. As an atheist i've been accused of not even being able to have or understand morals.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 12:08 PM
I don't think it's that absolute. People change over time.

agreed



Do you think adultery is immoral ? is a question about what you think right now

Have you ever.. ? is a question about what you may have ever done over the span of your life


the "oh I cheated on my first wife and it was a huge mistake, I'll never do that again, I now see how wrong it was" is not unusual.

agreed

amyzzz
06-11-2008, 12:12 PM
you enabler.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 12:16 PM
hey amy. wanna fool around?

Sexecutioner
06-11-2008, 12:40 PM
that there are plenty of immoral businesses that good moral poeple work for. You can find the act immoral and not participate but still live off of the procedes or profits.

so in your eyes, somebody is moral even though they help to support immoral acts? i think that is pretty flawed logic right there. your actions are what defines you as being moral/immoral. if you work for and profit from an immoral company, you made that choice, and therefore i would say that you are immoral.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 12:51 PM
The Sherriff of the county I work for is a complete and total asshat, just because I work here doesn't mean I support him. To me your logic is totally flawed.

amyzzz
06-11-2008, 12:54 PM
hey amy. wanna fool around?
Sorry, no.

Pixiessp
06-11-2008, 01:00 PM
I do Tom....but not with you.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 01:05 PM
ha ha haaaaa.

Melanie.Dawn
06-11-2008, 01:18 PM
The Sherriff of the county I work for is a complete and total asshat, just because I work here doesn't mean I support him. To me your logic is totally flawed.

I'm sorry but you are kind of being a little bit rediculious.

Just admit it, you don't have a problem with the site because A. you've cheated and you just don't think it's that bad or B. You toss around the idea of cheating and don't really think it's that bad.

Because those are the only reasons I could see someone actually trying to stand up for this site/these people

ShyGuy75
06-11-2008, 01:22 PM
What does that say about us as a whole? When we have fucking billboards advertising this kind of shit? Pretty pathetic and lame.

Truth

TomAz
06-11-2008, 01:24 PM
Hey J money wanna fool around?

rage patton
06-11-2008, 01:27 PM
I think she may have been referring to my "figures" comment. Since she's Canadian she probably doesn't understand that making fun of Canada is fun to do because it's so utterly pointless, and yet often causes strong reactions from Canadians. I mean, really, making fun of Canada and Canadians is like making fun of nothingness, except that nothingness doesn't get all bent out of shape when you do.

I wish we had Loonies and Toonies though. those are cool.

I agree with pretty much everything you said here. However, what exactly do you mean by "nothingness?" Just curious.
Also, just for the record, I love jokes about Canadians and Canadian sterotypes, and I do know a lot of people who do get very bent out of shape over that type of stuff.

Sexecutioner
06-11-2008, 01:32 PM
The Sherriff of the county I work for is a complete and total asshat, just because I work here doesn't mean I support him. To me your logic is totally flawed.

the county is a horrible example. the county is a government agency that's main goal (in theory) is to administer the territory it is responsible for. i dont really see how that is immoral. by working for the county, that is what you are supporting, not the sheriff himself. the sheriff is just one employee of that organization, and an elected official at that. him being an asshat does not mean the county as a whole is an immoral organization.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 01:35 PM
Hey J money wanna fool around?

finally.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 01:45 PM
I'm sorry but you are kind of being a little bit rediculious.

Just admit it, you don't have a problem with the site because A. you've cheated and you just don't think it's that bad

Ummm no, i'm an open book but nothing I say here is going to convince you.



or B. You toss around the idea of cheating and don't really think it's that bad.

Wrong again. I've already said I think it's bad and it's morally wrong to cheat and i've explained that the cheaters are the ones with the moral obligation, not the site owners. You just aren't listening. I have never cheated. I have been in a couple long term relationships and in fact the most recent one, ended because I became so emotionally unvailable and so miserable but unable to communicate it or get out that I basically pushed her into seeing other people. So,it's been done to me. Normally I think the response would be to fly off the handle but I was a bit more mature and introspective and at the end of the day happy I found out she was finally seeing someone else. Aside from the dishonesty of the act, in my situation I was greatful to finally have an official "out" and moved out a week later and have been the happiest person in the world for the past 8-9 months. It's quite nice. I would never cheat. No matter how bad it got I stood there numb and hoping someday she would leave me because I didn't have the fucking balls to end it. :) Hows that for honesty.

Now, I also think that if a single person and a married person start having an affair the responsiblity belongs to the married person. They are in the committed relationship. Not sure how that relates to this whole discussion, just my thought and opinion.



Because those are the only reasons I could see someone actually trying to stand up for this site/these people

Personal freedom to be moral or immoral. I think this site might facilitate the breaking up of the unhappy relationship much more expeditiously. Anything to get people to move on be happy is a good thing rather than feel stuck or in a rut.

I was raised right and I don't think i'm even capable of cheating. I'm not even capable of dating multiple people casually. I'm a very monogomous person but you go ahead and have your assumptions. :)

faxman75
06-11-2008, 01:47 PM
the county is a horrible example. the county is a government agency that's main goal (in theory) is to administer the territory it is responsible for. i dont really see how that is immoral. by working for the county, that is what you are supporting, not the sheriff himself. the sheriff is just one employee of that organization, and an elected official at that. him being an asshat does not mean the county as a whole is an immoral organization.

It could be a horrible example but I think you see my point. Just because you work for a company doesn't mean you support it's goals.

Melanie.Dawn
06-11-2008, 01:53 PM
Ummm no, i'm an open book but nothing I say here is going to convince you.



Wrong again. I've already said I think it's bad and it's morally wrong to cheat and i've explained that the cheaters are the ones with the moral obligation, not the site owners. You just aren't listening. I have never cheated. I have been in a couple long term relationships and in fact the most recent one, ended because I became so emotionally unvailable and so miserable but unable to communicate it or get out that I basically pushed her into seeing other people. So,it's been done to me. Normally I think the response would be to fly off the handle but I was a bit more mature and introspective and at the end of the day happy I found out she was finally seeing someone else. Aside from the dishonesty of the act, in my situation I was greatful to finally have an official "out" and moved out a week later and have been the happiest person in the world for the past 8-9 months. It's quite nice. I would never cheat. No matter how bad it got I stood there numb and hoping someday she would leave me because I didn't have the fucking balls to end it. :) Hows that for honesty.

Now, I also think that if a single person and a married person start having an affair the responsiblity belongs to the married person. They are in the committed relationship. Not sure how that relates to this whole discussion, just my thought and opinion.



Personal freedom to be moral or immoral. I think this site might facilitate the breaking up of the unhappy relationship much more expeditiously. Anything to get people to move on be happy is a good thing rather than feel stuck or in a rut.

I was raised right and I don't think i'm even capable of cheating. I'm not even capable of dating multiple people casually. I'm a very monogomous person but you go ahead and have your assumptions. :)

What Ev's man. I think you're losing it.

Sexecutioner
06-11-2008, 01:53 PM
It could be a horrible example but I think you see my point. Just because you work for a company doesn't mean you support it's goals.

actually, no, i dont see your point. i think if you choose to work for a company which you know has immoral goals, then you are contributing to that immorality, which in turn makes you immoral.

chairmenmeow47
06-11-2008, 01:57 PM
Personal freedom to be moral or immoral.

for realz. some people think dancing is immoral for crying out loud.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 01:57 PM
also, working for a company is different from owning a company.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 01:57 PM
Autonomy from the owners plays a big role. To say they are not involved with something they created is ludachristmas. It comes down to the bottom dollar. This site is not running its self "morally" they need people to cheat and they need to push that agenda or guess what they are out of a fucking job.

Edit: yeah i type slow...what everybody said was right on.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 01:58 PM
What Ev's man. I think you're losing it.

Now that's some valuable input. Thanks for sharing. :D lol I'm quite secure and sane lately though.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 01:59 PM
Personal freedom to be moral or immoral.

as well as, personal freedom to decide what is and isn't scummy.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:02 PM
actually, no, i dont see your point. i think if you choose to work for a company which you know has immoral goals, then you are contributing to that immorality, which in turn makes you immoral.


I gotcha, I really understand. I just don't feel the way you do and that's ok. I can seperate the two. I can do a job and make money from a company and use it to live and not have a problem with how immoral the company is. Then again I have been working for law firms, hospitals and now the government. I don't think it makes me immoral.

Tom, you make a good point. Is owning the company different than supporting the company by working for it? It's a conflict indeed. Sexecutioner believes that if you work for a morally corrupt company then you as a person are morally corrupt. I don't believe that.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:03 PM
as well as, personal freedom to decide what is and isn't scummy.


Sure. We have different morals. I am against cheating but would not have a problem working for Ashley Madison. To some that makes me scummy. To me it would be paying the bills.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:07 PM
once we break down employee for the company or owner of the company we can also break it down to level of involvement. For example if you are an evangelical christian working as a janitor at the abortion clinic, is that a moral conflict? Or would you have to be a receptionist or the doctor actuallyl performing the abortion?

chairmenmeow47
06-11-2008, 02:12 PM
as well as, personal freedom to decide what is and isn't scummy.

exactly :)

it is sad that so many people choose the scummy route though. menik's got a point, i can't believe this actually requires a billboard :(

amyzzz
06-11-2008, 02:12 PM
once we break down employee for the company or owner of the company we can also break it down to level of involvement. For example if you are an evangelical christian working as a janitor at the abortion clinic, is that a moral conflict? Or would you have to be a receptionist or the doctor actuallyl performing the abortion?
That janitor could get up to some crazy shenanigans.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:14 PM
Hell yes they could. In fact that might be the last place in the world anyone would ever want to do cleanup. .....

TomAz
06-11-2008, 02:17 PM
once we break down employee for the company or owner of the company we can also break it down to level of involvement. For example if you are an evangelical christian working as a janitor at the abortion clinic, is that a moral conflict? Or would you have to be a receptionist or the doctor actuallyl performing the abortion?

you're so intent on proving to everyone that deciding that these website folks are scummy is the wrong conclusion. I think you're wasting your time. I'll decide who I think is scummy and who isn't.

Sexecutioner
06-11-2008, 02:20 PM
I gotcha, I really understand. I just don't feel the way you do and that's ok. I can seperate the two. I can do a job and make money from a company and use it to live and not have a problem with how immoral the company is. Then again I have been working for law firms, hospitals and now the government. I don't think it makes me immoral.

Tom, you make a good point. Is owning the company different than supporting the company by working for it? It's a conflict indeed. Sexecutioner believes that if you work for a morally corrupt company then you as a person are morally corrupt. I don't believe that.

for the most part yea, i think if you work for them, you are just as bad as the people that created it. i also think there are exceptions, of course. like if you are working for an immoral company in hopes of making a change for the better. to use an earlier example of yours, like working for the marketing dept of mcdonalds in hopes of changing their marketing campaign to market towards adults instead of children.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:25 PM
you're so intent on proving to everyone that deciding that these website folks are scummy is the wrong conclusion. I think you're wasting your time. I'll decide who I think is scummy and who isn't.


I'm not intent on proving they aren't scummy. My point was that creating such a thing isn't necessarily a scummy thing and doesn't necessarily mean they must not have morals. It's the internetz yo, we are having a discussion. I'm not gonna convince you, we are simply all giving an opinion here.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:27 PM
for the most part yea, i think if you work for them, you are just as bad as the people that created it. i also think there are exceptions, of course. like if you are working for an immoral company in hopes of making a change for the better. to use an earlier example of yours, like working for the marketing dept of mcdonalds in hopes of changing their marketing campaign to market towards adults instead of children.


I gotcha. I like the idea of getting into a position where you can impact the marketing or use influence to get things going your way morally as well. our only difference is if that's not possible, i'm ok with them paying me money still.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:27 PM
Especially when at the end of the day the money is coming from the actual scum bag cheaters. lol

TomAz
06-11-2008, 02:33 PM
so. Godwin's Law time. just for entertainment value only.

were the Swiss bankers who helped bankroll the Nazis at all culpable?

psychic friend
06-11-2008, 02:41 PM
so has anyone signed up yet?

faxman75
06-11-2008, 02:43 PM
I'm way to single for that site. Brokendoll has though, for kicks and giggles.

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 02:45 PM
for realz. some people think dancing is immoral for crying out loud.

remember that town that made dancing illegal? the kids rebelled by playing chicken with tractors! TRACTORS!!! VROOOOOOM!!!!!

jigsaw
06-11-2008, 02:47 PM
ALF!

Jenniehoo
06-11-2008, 02:50 PM
ALF GRINDIN'!!

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 02:50 PM
so has anyone signed up yet? Okay,okay, I confess! It's a more scandalous copy of the other dating sites, that's for damn sure! Hell, how many of the others have a panic button? I mean, c'mon...I'm scanning over some of these loser's profiles and see this icon that says "panic." So I hit it. Next thing you know I'm on some real estate site looking at sale property! And for the record...No, I haven't and won't be needing a profile there because my ass is perfectly happy where it's at! But, daaaaamn, there be alot of cheatin' goin' on!

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 02:53 PM
One more thing. Nobody I knew there, (Thank God) but wow, there's alot of scandal goin' on right here in our little Coachella Valley! Geez!

Young blood
06-11-2008, 02:54 PM
No fucking way. a panic button. Thats genius. they should have called the moral button.

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 02:54 PM
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full on idle
06-11-2008, 02:56 PM
why

amyzzz
06-11-2008, 02:58 PM
I don't get the ALF thing.

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 03:00 PM
Alien Life Form named Gordon.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 03:00 PM
Wow, that seems like a call out for attention if I ever saw one. How annoying. :)

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 03:01 PM
No fucking way. a panic button. Thats genius. they should have called the moral button. Yep. And if someone designates that it's okay to IM them, there's a button for that too. I won't lie, I almost Im'd some dude just to say, "Well, now I see what you're up to when I'm at home feeding the children, asshole! I'll see you in court!"

Young blood
06-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Jesus christ. Im going to make some money.

Jenniehoo
06-11-2008, 03:03 PM
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I like things that are zany.

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 03:03 PM
WTF is with my avatar plastered all over that post? Christ! You'll give someone a damned headache doin' shit like that!

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 03:04 PM
Okay, not everybody.

amyzzz
06-11-2008, 03:08 PM
Is this a "scare Brokendoll" tactic?

faxman75
06-11-2008, 03:10 PM
I think mommy didn't hold him enough.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 03:20 PM
Ban, please. Jesus how annoying. What are you 8?

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 03:25 PM
you bwaking my hawt.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Can we have atleast 3 gifs of dude rawkin out?

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 03:31 PM
rawk. hard.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 03:32 PM
boners.

TomAz
06-11-2008, 03:34 PM
Alf is still in the groove at 100
DI THOMAS
10/06/2008 12:00:00 AM

AT the age of 100, Alf Spencer may be having a few problems with his knees, but he still enjoys a dance or two.

The Beechworth centenarian celebrated his birthday with a dance party at the Yackandandah Town Hall on Saturday.

Mr Spencer’s birthday fell in the middle of the holiday weekend and his four children and their extended families travelled to Beechworth to celebrate the occasion with him.

His daughter Val Farley said her father had been attending local dances for 10 years and his friends at Yackandandah had organised a birthday cake for him each year since.

“He is a lucky man to be so fit and to have a wonderful memory,” Mrs Farley said.

“He had been having a bit of trouble with his knees but he still had two dances on Saturday night.”

Mrs Farley said among her father’s favourite dances was the saga waltz.

“When we were kids we used to have someone sit with us while Mum and Dad went dancing,” she said.

“It was lovely to see Mum dressed up in a ball gown with her hair up with curls.”

Mr Spencer’s wife, May, died in 1996 aged 86.

He resumed old-time dancing after having nursed his wife during her illness and had been dancing two to three times a week at Beechworth and Yackandandah until about mid April when he began having trouble with his legs.

Mrs Farley said her father still liked to attend dances to meet up with friends but he was unable to sit for extended periods.

“He sometimes now goes to the one at Beechworth on Monday for afternoon tea,” she said.

Mr Spencer was born in Beechworth and met his Tasmanian-born wife in Melbourne where she was a seamstress for Myer and he had moved there to work at age 16.

He had served in World War II and at the end of the war was sent to Changi Prison to assist in bringing home prisoners of war.

After leaving the army, Mr Spencer returned to Beechworth, where he was employed by the local council and then went to work for his brother as a butcher, retiring at the age of 67.

Mrs Farley said a family function on Sunday had been held at Stringybark Lodge at Beechworth where Mr Spencer now lives.

He received letters of congratulations from member for Indi Sophie Mirabella the Victorian Governor, the Premier, the Governor-General, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and the Queen.

“I don’t think it has sunk in for him yet, but it will when he sits down and realises how special it is,” Mrs Farley said.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 03:40 PM
Its always been my dream to light Alf on fire.

full on idle
06-11-2008, 03:40 PM
Ban, please. Jesus how annoying. What are you 8?

He's doing god's work. Shut up, scummy.

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 03:42 PM
Its always been my dream to light Alf on fire.

that would smell TERRIBLE!

Young blood
06-11-2008, 03:44 PM
I bet his screams would be hilarious.

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 03:46 PM
V5-55LM1Wws

Blinken
06-11-2008, 03:46 PM
But then cat population would explode, so there would be more lolcatz. Would it really be worth it?

Young blood
06-11-2008, 03:47 PM
V5-55LM1Wws

L O L

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 03:49 PM
GREASE FIRE!!! GREASE FIRE!!!

Yablonowitz
06-11-2008, 03:50 PM
Ashley Madison isn't responsible for it. The divorce rate is well over 50%. Marriage is pretty pathetic, so why not advertise this service. Marriage isn't sacred, it's bullshit. The ones that are sacred won't be affected. :)

Divorce rates are going down, assface. Been married for 11 affair-less years. I am better than you.

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 03:51 PM
where did those cats go?

TomAz
06-11-2008, 03:56 PM
oh Erik.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 03:56 PM
Divorce rates are going down, assface. Been married for 11 affair-less years. I am better than you.

You are just going to throw what we had aside?

that hurts.

faxman75
06-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Divorce rates are going down, assface. Been married for 11 affair-less years. I am better than you.

:rotfl

Yes you are better than me. If you have to be married to be better you win hands down.

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 04:00 PM
lol.

Young blood
06-11-2008, 04:03 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/lollerbate2.gif

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 04:04 PM
+50

thinnerair
06-11-2008, 04:09 PM
http://www.pinsaver.ca/assets/LMAO.gif

iv3rdawG
06-11-2008, 04:44 PM
Sweet: http://www.alftv.net/

rMyCPe0vExk

BROKENDOLL
06-11-2008, 05:09 PM
WTF did any of that have to do with my avatar,dammit?

amyzzz
06-11-2008, 05:12 PM
http://blogs.elsweb.org/anniek/files/2007/06/dunecat.jpg

amyzzz
06-11-2008, 05:14 PM
http://ahk057.com/files/picasa/cats/images/bobrosscat1.jpg

iv3rdawG
06-11-2008, 05:18 PM
http://www.oneposter.com/UserData/Poster/Poster_18738.jpg

Yablonowitz
06-11-2008, 08:15 PM
You are just going to throw what we had aside?

that hurts.

Sorry, I had only started the thread when I commented. Didn't realize it had long since maxed out its utility. I hate myself.


VCsKn-lLY7Y

iv3rdawG
06-11-2008, 08:20 PM
:thu

VSJHdQMajfE

"You are a bagel." Oh, Alf!

Young blood
06-11-2008, 08:34 PM
Sorry, I had only started the thread when I commented. Didn't realize it had long since maxed out its utility. I hate myself.


VCsKn-lLY7Y

Dont play dumb with me you hussy, im talking about our secret rendezvous. I see it meant more to me than you.....good luck and congrats with ur 11 year "affairless lie/marriage"

marooko
06-11-2008, 08:41 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/lollerbate2.gif

ROFL!!

jazzz
06-11-2008, 09:02 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/lollerbate2.gif

just add a bit of "Pocket Calculator" and we got Kraftwerk porn

RotationSlimWang
06-11-2008, 11:29 PM
Ban, please. Jesus how annoying. What are you 8?

Hey Dani, someone said the word "ban." Are you gonna delete the whole fucking thread again?

RotationSlimWang
06-11-2008, 11:30 PM
Divorce rates are going down, assface. Been married for 11 affair-less years. I am better than you.

Um... I mean, not to be Devil's Advocate too much or anything... but technically you only know that YOU'VE been affair-less.












My point is I fucked your wife. Butt-wise.

full on idle
06-11-2008, 11:32 PM
you take things too far, LW

RotationSlimWang
06-11-2008, 11:35 PM
Just because you use an analogy doesn't make the argument logical. Are you really arguing that in order to run a business you have to use the product yourself?

What about the people that owned the first couple Volkswagen factories in Germany? Sure, they didn't actually participate in the butchering of my family members, they just stuffed the apholstery of their vehicles with my ancestors hair. So in the clear, right?

This argument is fucking dumb. CEOs of tobacco companies didn't have to be smoking cigarettes to be immoral. CEOs of gun manufacturers don't have to be committing murder to know that their product is used to kill people. I could deal heroin without using it (I mean, in theory, there's no way I could do that in practice) and it's still immoral. You're making money off the assistance of an immoral act.

Also, I know a girl who is probably gonna be all over this site in about 9 months.

Mr.Nipples
06-12-2008, 12:18 AM
http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia

poor things...

superfiction
06-12-2008, 01:12 AM
http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia

poor things...

wow i just popped in here out of curiosity. is this just the POST FUCKED UP SHIT YOU FIND ON THE INTERNET THREAD

cuz seriously this shit is whack

whynotsmile99
06-12-2008, 08:14 AM
I love how Alf youtube clips got randomly dragged into this thread.

I believe I have seen this ad on late night tv. classy.

cX5gxAPYZH8

luckyface
06-12-2008, 08:25 AM
I can't believe we call this a scumbag company. Obviously they are serving a higher purpose. They are doing God's work.

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:26 AM
gun manufacturers are immoral?

jigsaw
06-12-2008, 08:29 AM
I could deal heroin without using it (I mean, in theory, there's no way I could do that in practice) and it's still immoral.

I've been in this game for years, it made me a animal
Its rules to this shit, I wrote me a manual
A step by step booklet for you to get
Your game on track, not your wig pushed back
Rule nombre uno: never let no one know
How much, dough you hold, cause you know
The cheddar breed jealousy specially
If that man fucked up, get your ass stuck up
Number two: never let em know your next move
Dont you know bad boys move in silence or violence
Take it from your highness (uh-huh)
I done squeezed mad clips at these cats for they bricks and chips
Number three: never trust no-bo-dy
Your momsll set that ass up, properly gassed up
Hoodie to mask up, shit, for that fast buck
She be layin in the bushes to light that ass up
Number four: know you heard this before
Never get high, on your own supply
Number five: never sell no crack where you rest at
I dont care if they want a ounce, tell em bounce
Number six: that God damn credit, dead it
You think a crackhead payin you back, shit forget it
Seven: this rule is so underrated
Keep your family and business completely seperated
Money and blood dont mix like two dicks and no bitch
Find yourself in serious shit
Number eight: never keep no weight on you
Them cats that squeeze your guns can hold jobs too
Number nine shoulda been number one to me
If you aint gettin bags stay the fuck from police (uh-huh)
If niggaz think you snitchin aint tryin listen
They be sittin in your kitchen, waitin to start hittin
Number ten: a strong word called consignment
Strictly for live men, not for freshmen
If you aint got the clientele say hell no
Cause they gon want they money rain sleet hail snow
Follow these rules youll have mad bread to break up
If not, twenty-four years, on the wake up
Slug hit your temple, watch your frame shake up
Caretaker did your makeup, when you pass
Your girl fucked my man jake up, heard in three weeks
She sniffed a whole half of cake up
Heard she suck a good dick, and can hook a steak up
Gotta go gotta go, more pies to bake up, word up, uhh

Young blood
06-12-2008, 08:31 AM
gun manufacturers are immoral?

Killing is a good thing right?

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:35 AM
dont answer a question with a question. and thats not what i said. i tried to stab someone with a pair of scissors. are scissor manufacturers immoral?

Young blood
06-12-2008, 08:41 AM
If the purpose of scissors was to kill or mame. In my opinion. yes. Do I think guns should be illegal? no.

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:43 AM
DO YOU THINK HUNTING IS IMMORAL? sorry bout the caps.

Young blood
06-12-2008, 08:46 AM
I do not believe immoral, but ethically wrong...yes.

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:47 AM
What if the person eats it?

jigsaw
06-12-2008, 08:48 AM
You got to lick it befor you stick it.

TomAz
06-12-2008, 08:49 AM
Do you think Marine corporals throwing live puppies off cliffs is immoral?

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:51 AM
depends. is it just for fun, or does it serve a purpose?

jigsaw
06-12-2008, 08:52 AM
If we lived in a moral society there should be no need to make immoral things illegal.

Young blood
06-12-2008, 08:52 AM
What if the person eats it?


circles.

Great for them if the want to eat it.

Hunting is a practice that should have gone out of style 50 years ago. Its unnecessary in this day and age. Local farmers markets that cater to organic free range beef poultry chicken and few other meats such in limited supply venison, fowl, fish ect. would be my ideal. I know its not for everyone.

TomAz
06-12-2008, 08:53 AM
If we lived in a legal society there should be no need to make illegal things immoral.

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:58 AM
circles.

Great for them if the want to eat it.

Hunting is a practice that should have gone out of style 50 years ago. Its unnecessary in this day and age. Local farmers markets that cater to organic free range beef poultry chicken and few other meats such in limited supply venison, fowl, fish ect. would be my ideal. I know its not for everyone.

not trying to go in circles just trying to get a better understanding of you and your thoughts. thank you.

Young blood
06-12-2008, 08:59 AM
It will eventually end up going in a circle.jus sayin

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:59 AM
If we lived in a legal society there should be no need to make illegal things immoral.

if......if.......if.......yeah but what if.......

marooko
06-12-2008, 08:59 AM
It will eventually end up going in a circle.jus sayin

nah, im done. we just disagree. im fine with that.

Yablonowitz
06-12-2008, 09:16 AM
Um... I mean, not to be Devil's Advocate too much or anything... but technically you only know that YOU'VE been affair-less.



My point is I fucked your wife. Butt-wise.

Not true. She doesn't have AIDS or any other STDs.

thinnerair
06-12-2008, 09:41 AM
ALF GRINDING

RotationSlimWang
06-12-2008, 09:42 AM
Not true. She doesn't have AIDS or any other STDs.

Have you checked her ass?

thinnerair
06-12-2008, 09:44 AM
what is she? a cocker spaniel?

jigsaw
06-12-2008, 09:44 AM
I'll check her ass.

Young blood
06-12-2008, 09:46 AM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/mmmmdoughnuts/A-2.gif

jigsaw
06-12-2008, 09:46 AM
I love how Alf youtube clips got randomly dragged into this thread.

I believe I have seen this ad on late night tv. classy.

cX5gxAPYZH8

This is unbelievable. I wonder what network runs these commercials?

Sexecutioner
06-12-2008, 09:55 AM
I love how Alf youtube clips got randomly dragged into this thread.

I believe I have seen this ad on late night tv. classy.

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yea, and they claim they dont encourage cheating...my ass. if thats not encouraging it, i dont know what is. there is probably some idiot who wouldnt have cheated until he saw that commercial and decided that cheating looks awesome. fuck, that commercial makes me want to have an affair too!

Heresy
06-12-2008, 09:57 AM
Wow.

rage patton
06-12-2008, 09:58 AM
I have a hard time believing that commercial has ever aired on any TV netwroks. Well besides Playboy, and maybe PBS.

jigsaw
06-12-2008, 10:01 AM
I bet during any Tyra Banks shows












and in Canada

TomAz
06-12-2008, 10:04 AM
PBS. Right after Sesame Street.

rage patton
06-12-2008, 10:04 AM
I have never seen one. Then again... I don't watch TV.

thinnerair
06-12-2008, 10:06 AM
CHEATING RULES!!!

BROKENDOLL
06-12-2008, 10:09 AM
CHEATING RULES!!! And I suppose taking cuts is okay with you too, right?

BROKENDOLL
06-12-2008, 10:11 AM
And keep yer lil' Alf paws off my avatar!

faxman75
06-12-2008, 10:22 AM
Well it's no wonder I don't mind this company. I used to watch Jerry Springer nad more recently the show "cheaters". I'm just waiting for someone to get murdered on cheaters though, seems like it's only a matter of time.

marooko
06-12-2008, 10:23 AM
that show cracks me up.

faxman75
06-12-2008, 10:28 AM
It's madness. That guy with the fucking camera running over shining a bright light on the cheater, then the chaos ensues. No way they don't already have a bunch of lawsuits.

Sexecutioner
06-12-2008, 10:28 AM
I used to watch Jerry Springer nad more recently the show "cheaters".

this explains a lot.

marooko
06-12-2008, 10:33 AM
It's madness. That guy with the fucking camera running over shining a bright light on the cheater, then the chaos ensues. No way they don't already have a bunch of lawsuits.

you see when the host got stabbed? they were on a bout i think, and the dude that got busted shanked him. he fell in. as the show is starting, they play that as one of the clips they show. when they're on a boat and he's falling in, you can kinda see him holding himself.

faxman75
06-12-2008, 10:57 AM
Jesus christ, fucking crazy. I missed that one. Almost as good if not better than the catching a pedophile show.

faxman75
06-12-2008, 10:58 AM
this explains a lot.

Or at least that I like to watch people act stupid on tv.

BROKENDOLL
06-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Well it's no wonder I don't mind this company. I used to watch Jerry Springer nad more recently the show "cheaters". I'm just waiting for someone to get murdered on cheaters though, seems like it's only a matter of time. No shit! The first time I saw that show I felt so bad for the one getting cheated on, then I thought, "Someone's gonna go left-field on one of these episodes and it isn't gonna be pretty." Seriously though, what's with all the reality shows?

boarderwoozel3
06-12-2008, 11:11 AM
You were watching them right? This is the problem with them. Stop watching-even for train wreck purposes-and they will go away. I'm doing my part.

thinnerair
06-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Or at least that I like to watch people act stupid on tv.

does watching this stuff make you feel better about yourself?

faxman75
06-12-2008, 11:51 AM
Nope. It's just entertaining. I haven't watched Springer in years. Cheaters was sort of the fall asleep to it thing. I'm not an avid watcher by any means and Jerry isn't even remotely interesting anymore.

My favorite show is a reality show though. It's The Amazing Race. Love that fucking show. I like The Office. I watch a bit of nancy grace, bill o'reilly, sean hannity because quite frankly, I can't stand watching people I agree with. It's boring as fuck. I watch these three fucks because I love to get irritated and yell at the tv. Insanely enough out of the three of them O'Reilly is probably gets me into the least of an uproar at this point. Thank god for Colmbs on Hannity to level it just a bit and I want to put that Nancy Grace chick through a window. :)

faxman75
06-12-2008, 11:53 AM
You were watching them right? This is the problem with them. Stop watching-even for train wreck purposes-and they will go away. I'm doing my part.

Not really true though. They don't get "ratings" from me. I don't buy their products, they don't even know I watch. It's the people with those Nielson Boxes that we have to get to stop watching.

M Sparks
06-13-2008, 05:02 AM
Or your wife finds your profile while shes cruising the site.

"Do you like Pina Colada's? Getting caught in the rain?"

Ahhhh...the sweet, sweet irony of Rupert Holmes

bug on your lip
06-13-2008, 06:43 AM
i love making love after midnight

gaypalmsprings
06-13-2008, 06:47 AM
Write to me and escape.