Roger Waters: Greatest show in Coachella history!

[Trick Loves The Kids]

Discovery is one of my favorite albums of all time, I'd been waiting 5 years to see Daft Punk live, I bought Coachella tickets as soon as they were announced, and their show broke my brain in two pieces and I still don't think it's anywhere near what the fuck Waters did.

[CalmerThanYou]

The great thing about waters was that it was all encompassing. it engulfed everyone there, took a hold of their minds/souls, and didnt let go until the end.

I felt like i was in some war zone/american gladiator type shit.

unreal.

[shaggyduck]

Biggest Sig Ever.



COACHELLA 2009
LED ZEPPELIN

http://www.HAPPYCOACHELLA.com

Shows I might show up to in the next 2 weeks...

05/07 - Atmosphere - Henry Fonda Music Box
05/09 - Tapes N Tapes - Troubadour
05/10 - 3D @ Cinespace - DJ Fashen | Ooah (glitch mob) - Cinespace, Hollywood
05/16 - STS9 - The House of Blues, Hollywood
(Joshua Tree Music Festival? Ghostland Observatory!)
05/19 - Cut/Copy - Echoplex

Suggestions?


BIGGEST. BEST. SIG. EVER.

[CalmerThanYou]

lol

[bobert]

Discovery is one of my favorite albums of all time, I'd been waiting 5 years to see Daft Punk live, I bought Coachella tickets as soon as they were announced, and their show broke my brain in two pieces and I still don't think it's anywhere near what the fuck Waters did.

Damn, Trick, that's means a lot coming from you, as you seem to be the biggest EDM fan on this board.

[wolverine]

Discovery is one of my favorite albums of all time, I'd been waiting 5 years to see Daft Punk live, I bought Coachella tickets as soon as they were announced, and their show broke my brain in two pieces and I still don't think it's anywhere near what the fuck Waters did.


I think there are a few things to this. While I love alot of EDM(especially DP), Floyd/Waters offer a much more balanced attack that appeals to all facets of the mind and soul.

The band was coined as the first "underground" band, playing the first raves to the first timed light shows in 1966. They were born psychedelic. They took rock/pop in entirely new directions and never stopped pushing. What you saw was the culmination of 40 years of expertise in messing with the mind and sould of an audience. Pink Floyd did not just become storied because of their studio work. They are the greatest trip act of all time, and it started from a genius who took way too much acid - Syd Barrett. One of the key things they figured out was it's not how much you can fit into one space, but what you can leave out and get away with. Their music has spaces and is more organic than an EDM act, which is more condusive to tripping.

Syd Barrett founded the band. Remember the song "Shine on You Crazy Diamond", form the Waters show? The guys picture during that chorus was Syd Barrett(the big pic in red). He became mentally ill and withdrew from the world in 69. Syd was a true artist who rejected fame and commercial music.

Syd started a monster, and Roger Waters carried the torch.


Here's Pink Floyd during the 1980 Wall tour:

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And a cool documentary that goes into the start of Pink Floyd, which features Syd Barrett:

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[swankgd]

Crazy Diamond gets me every time. I have (had?) a friend whose story so totally mirrors Syd's (save for the internationally famous musical revolutionary bit) it's scary. Brilliant creative guy with a shining personality, if a bit offbeat, finds acid, flips the f*ck out, and completely loses touch with reality. Disappears for long stretches, reappears seemingly coherent, only to drift off into spaceland again. And now it's been years since we've heard from him, God knows where he is.

Shine on indeed.

[CalmerThanYou]

^ I have a buddy like this too. Ironically enough, his name is Dave Dimond. I think of him EVERYTIME i listen to the WYWH album.

He's in Berkeley right now...

[JebusLives]

I think its too bad that everyone assumes acid did this to him. There is no good clinical evidence that acid has ever done that to anyone; he was clearly deranged to begin with. I imaging taking acid when you're already schizophrenic is probably contra-indicated, though.

[wolverine]

I think its too bad that everyone assumes acid did this to him. There is no good clinical evidence that acid has ever done that to anyone; he was clearly deranged to begin with. I imaging taking acid when you're already schizophrenic is probably contra-indicated, though.

Right. I never said acid did that to him. But according to accounts I think he did take too much. Moderation is key.

[shaggyduck]

RIP Syd.

They all took a lot of Acid. Syd was just too unique of a human being to remain.

[Geno_g]

He will always be there, "shine on you crazy diamond"

[swankgd]

I think its too bad that everyone assumes acid did this to him. There is no good clinical evidence that acid has ever done that to anyone; he was clearly deranged to begin with. I imaging taking acid when you're already schizophrenic is probably contra-indicated, though.
It's obviously a combination of factors, but acid most certainly can trigger psychotic episodes and/or permanent psychological changes. My friend went from a little off beat with zero symptoms of any psychological issues to slitting his wrists and not believing that what we perceive as life to be a reality within the span of one acid trip. It wouldn't have happened without acid. Obviously acid doesn't do that to everyone (I would be an example of that), but acid+his specific brain chemistry did it to him.

[bobert]

Wolverine, I'm glad you're an enthusiast but damn man are you Floyds publicist or something.

True they have no peers BUT they have a little protege band by the name of Tool who are pretty fucking amazing in their own right, IMO.

Agreed. Tool is the next generation, and they created their own genre: "Progressive-Psychedelic-Metal-Awesomeness." The only difference between Tool and Pink Floyd is that Tool are for too tight nit to let their egos get in the way of their music. You take away any part of Tool's equation and it just doesn't add up. You'll never see "Maynard James Keenan presents his masterpiece: Lateralus" at the top of any poster. Tool will be making music together until one of them dies, then the band will be done forever.

[thelastgreatman]

The rest of the band didn't really do much acid--alcohol and cocaine almost entirely.

[Cancersticks1]

Admittedly, by this point in my life I had grown pretty tired of DSOTM/The Wall, and my girlfriend was never really a Pink Floyd fan at all, so we sat way in the back, figuring it would still be a nice close-out to the festival. But wow... That show completely revitalized them for me, those albums are brand new to me again. Even so far back it was sensory overload, maybe even better as we could see everything going on in panorama, including Wizard of Oz. I always kind of thought "On The Run" was pseudo-artsy wankering... My bad... I get it now. Being up front at the bar for Kraftwerk - Portishead - and Prince takes the cake for me, but Waters was the greatest concert spectacle I've ever seen. Afterwards we decided to skip on Justice because they could only possibly lessen the over all sense of well-being.

[wolverine]

The rest of the band didn't really do much acid--alcohol and cocaine almost entirely.

Rick and Dave did the coke(after WYWH I believe). Waters and Mason were the drinkers/pot smokers.

But they were able to take the spacey/constuct Syd had devloped and run with it. They had the blueprint.

[thelastgreatman]

Syd didn't develop shit. Fuck Syd.

[bobert]

Syd didn't develop shit. Fuck Syd.

Well, he got the band together, that's something. But the best thing he ever did for Pink Floyd was lose his mind, withdraw from the band, force Roger to take creative control, and inspire some of their most classic songs and albums.

[thelastgreatman]

Pretty much. But I don't think there's any songwriting credit for martyrs.

[CalmerThanYou]

Being into acid, i would swear you would be into all of syds shit:

ummagumma, pipers at the gates of dawn, saucerful of secrets, atom heart mother...all very awesome, and all very syd.

edit, not atom heart mother (still an AWESOME song + album).

[bobert]

Pretty much. But I don't think there's any songwriting credit for martyrs.

Agreed.

[wolverine]

Syd didn't develop shit. Fuck Syd.

Syd didn't develop shit? He's without question an art rock pioneer - which is what Coachella mostly is. Watch the documentary I posted a couple clicks back.

[wolverine]

Well, he got the band together, that's something. But the best thing he ever did for Pink Floyd was lose his mind, withdraw from the band, force Roger to take creative control, and inspire some of their most classic songs and albums.


How is that possible when See Emily Play is Pink Floyd's best song? If Syd had stayed, Pink Floyd would have been even better.

[crazzz2007]

if you know me, happy go lucky, never very negitive yada yada .. ok so i saw waters last night ... at least 3 people i talked to on the way out said it was the best concert they ever went to .. guess i have to say if i was rollling, it might have been top 5 or 10 ... as it were, i say maybe top 25 ... i have seen PF do better shows .... we did get the smaller indoor pig and that was cool ... being inside they didnt spread out the speakers so the rear ones were not actually in the back ... got our confetti which was pretty ... sound was great but not as great as a few NIN shows or king crimson i guess ... dont get me wrong, had a great time, saw a great show, but not close to the best show i ever saw :( x****

you've been to 1000's of shows, so top 25 is way up there. what's with the sad face?

[VirtualRog]

Although it was basically the same exact show as the first six I saw on his two west coast swings...it was the best. Who says bigger isn't better?

The scale of the concert was breathtaking. The quad sound was only second to Animals at Anaheim in '77.

And violinist Lili Haydn was unbelievable...did you hear her solo on Comfortably Numb? My God...that was amazing.

Same show...most of the same faces (NO Andy...where was Roger's right hand man?) but somehow, some way, it was better...I don’t know...maybe it was just the sheer size of it. I saw it from a far better and infinitely more comfortable position at four of the first six concerts (the Bowl four times, Vegas and Oakland). Sat near the back for two of his Hollywood Bowl shows...the back of the Bowl is a long way from the stage. But the quad effects, which were more dominant in the rear, made it enjoyable nonetheless.

But the quad effects at Coachella...fuck man, that was LOUD...thundering...shook the damn ground.

Yet it was Roger's ability to adapt to a larger venue and still keep the show BIG that was remarkable.

Roger Waters is a master entertainer. His band was probably the best...The Beatles have to be considered number one...and Radiohead are a tight machine...but Pink Floyd were always one notch above the rest.

Song selection aside...no trademark Machine...and no Dogs or Pigs...it was as close as you'll get to a vintage Pink Floyd experience.

The visuals on this tour were as good as any old Floyd...probably the best...incorporating Ian Emes' classic 'Time' clocks with new footage such as the backdrop animation for On the Run & Any Colour You Like, which were spectacular, along with the finely edited backdrop footage for Have a Cigar...take my word for it...this is as good as it gets.

Roger put a lot of thought and effort into this production. It was a night to remember for everyone that saw it.

[VirtualRog]

The great thing about waters was that it was all encompassing. it engulfed everyone there, took a hold of their minds/souls, and didnt let go until the end.

I felt like i was in some war zone/american gladiator type shit.

unreal.

"I felt like i was in some war zone/american gladiator type shit."

Well said.

Yeah...you had to be there. It's was a breathtaking experience.

[shaggyduck]

Syd didn't develop shit. Fuck Syd.

Ignorant.


Being into acid, i would swear you would be into all of syds shit:

ummagumma, pipers at the gates of dawn, saucerful of secrets, atom heart mother...all very awesome, and all very syd.

edit, not atom heart mother (still an AWESOME song + album).

Totally. Tons of fucking rad shit in there.



And violinist Lili Haydn was unbelievable...did you hear her solo on Comfortably Numb? My God...that was amazing.

But the quad effects at Coachella...fuck man, that was LOUD...thundering...shook the damn ground.

No fucking kidding. She was incredible. That woman can rock.

...and maybe it was the drugs, but that surround sound was out of this world. That shit had me so confused. I was having the time of my life.



Roger Waters is a master entertainer. His band was probably the best...The Beatles have to be considered number one...and Radiohead are a tight machine...but Pink Floyd were always one notch above the rest.

...no trademark Machine...

Roger put a lot of thought and effort into this production. It was a night to remember for everyone that saw it.

Would have LOVED to hear Welcome to the Machine, but still, this was just an all around spectacle of entertainment that you really can't get anywhere else. Fantastic!

[TheWatcher]

The scale of the concert was breathtaking. The quad sound was only second to Animals at Anaheim in '77.



I think the Animals show at Anaheim was the first real concert I went to.

Edit: I was trying to remember the concert, and found videos at YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-tumi1y7-Q

I didn't know we had video cameras back then. The guy doing the filming must have been standing very near me.


But, the main thing I remember about it is waiting in the hot sun in line for hours, then when we went in to sit down, it started raining, and it rained the rest of the day. But, we were all sitting in the grass huddled under blankets, surrounded by music. Very surreal experience. I think I'd enjoy it more now, it may have been wasted on my teenage mind.

Also, if I remember it right, there was no alcohol, but clouds of smoke, as the security did not take drugs away, only alcohol.

During the part with the fireworks, confetti, the plane flyby and the lasers dancing, I felt like a little kid again. It really brought back a lot of memories. I seem to remember getting the album Piper at the Gates of Dawn when it came out. (I was 7!?)

Unfortunately, my daughter was tired and we left near the end of DSOTM, so I missed the violin solo. I heard the last song as I was walking to my car.

[VirtualRog]

I think the Animals show at Anaheim was the first real concert I went to.

Edit: I was trying to remember the concert, and found videos at YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-tumi1y7-Q

I didn't know we had video cameras back then. The guy doing the filming must have been standing very near me.


But, the main thing I remember about it is waiting in the hot sun in line for hours, then when we went in to sit down, it started raining, and it rained the rest of the day. But, we were all sitting in the grass huddled under blankets, surrounded by music. Very surreal experience. I think I'd enjoy it more now, it may have been wasted on my teenage mind.

Also, if I remember it right, there was no alcohol, but clouds of smoke, as the security did not take drugs away, only alcohol.

During the part with the fireworks, confetti, the plane flyby and the lasers dancing, I felt like a little kid again. It really brought back a lot of memories. I seem to remember getting the album Piper at the Gates of Dawn when it came out. (I was 7!?)

Unfortunately, my daughter was tired and we left near the end of DSOTM, so I missed the violin solo. I heard the last song as I was walking to my car.


Thanks man! That was awesome!

I was there both nights...have audio of the 7th...and some poor quality video clips...but this is much better...hard to believe it was 31 years ago.

[trentmorrison]

i dont understand anyone who did not go see roger waters that night.

Roger is old, he will not be touring forever.

Justice does not have a new album out, same songs from last year.
They are new and young and will be around
So will all the other djs that were there that night.

The only other reason not to see Roger is if you are unaware of or do not like Pink Floyd. Which is something I cannot imagine as a scenario. You cannot be a lover of music if you do not like Floyd.

so its accepted that you are just lazy that you never had a chance to get into Floyd and/or you are a dumb person that likes music that has a catchy beat and dance like a farie in a tent while the greatest music ever written was being played live on the mainstage.

[trentmorrison]

How is it that it turned out that you were right?
Was he lip synching?
If so, how do you know?

Evidence please.

First of all, let it be known that I did not drink or do drugs the whole weekend.
So I watched and listened to the whole show sober.

Second, if you cannot tell the songs:
Southampton Dock
The Fletcher Memorial Home
Perfect Sense, Parts 1 and 2 "submarine tune"
Leaving Beirut (unrealeased)
were lip synced, then you are really helpless.

It was obvious, by the voice sound of the first set of songs up to wish you were here, then the clear STRONG PERFECT voice he was putting out during Fletcher, which is mostly quiet musically where the voice really stands out.

its really sad you people are that dopey and cannot tell or even pay attention to OBVIOUS detail.
But I still enjoyed the show, one of the best concerts in my life.

This is what would have happened if his pre recorded voice failed to play.
i almost didnt want to post this cause it makes me cringe and i have great respect for roger
but when im right, im right
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[coldstart]

It was "Vote Obama" confetti. A lot of it ended up on lawns and streets blocks away from the venue. It also ended up landing near the outdoor stage apparently. So basically the plane totally missed the target.



Thanks for the explination. I saw a bunch of those by the porta-potties in the campground. My friend and I thought Roger had dusted everyone with drugs or something :P

[Coachella Bound]

Being 25 feet back and directly in the middle for Dark Side was easily the most epic music moment of my entire life. Ive been to alot of shows, Ive been moved, Ive had my jaw drop a number of times, but this, this was unreal. Ive never seen anything so beautifull in my entire life.........

[JSam67]

Did any of you guys have ears at this show? This was the biggest disappointment all weekend. Sure the production was cool and it was fun to get distracted. When you don't know which way to look, it's a pretty good sign that the music isn't on point. He can't sing, he can't play bass, the guys in his band were not impressive... Floyd is one of my favorite bands, DSOTM perhaps my 2nd favorite album ever, but it failed... Waters was a letdown, I can't believe people think it's the greatest show ever. People who think that must have somehow missed Portishead/Prince.

[thelastgreatman]

Josh, we're seriously like THE ONLY FUCKING PEOPLE that were bothered by Waters. Oh no, wait, Tito knew what was up too. Did Dude tell you about that? Tito just bounced when they started to play Comfortably Numb and booked over to Justice. Later, Dude asked him what that was about and Tito said (rather perfectly, I think), "No fucking way I'm going to stand there and watch some sneering cocksucker in a leather vest with a shaved chest butcher my favorite guitar solo of all time."

[JSam67]

Wow, Tito is spot-on. I bailed during Another Brick, he fucked up that bass line and couldn't hit a note, I wasn't about to let those songs get ruined for me like DSOTM was. Maybe everybody was just singing along like that "wish you were fuckin' here" douche bag and didn't notice that it sounded worse than any show all weekend. I can't come up with a good explanation, Randy, but I remember telling you after Justice that I was getting the impression that people were loving that show. I didn't expect everyone to feel that way, though, wow. Is everyone deaf?

[Suffacated]

Did any of you guys have ears at this show? This was the biggest disappointment all weekend. He can't sing, he can't play bass, the guys in his band were not impressive...

Whats your point?
Or better yet, what is it that you want to hear from us?
We that enjoyed the show are morons and the reason we couldnt detect what ever the hell you talking about is because our heads were inserted deeply in some ones ass.
R. Waters sucks balls and Portshithead rules.

Happy?
Now go the fuck away and
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[thelastgreatman]

Wow, Tito is spot-on. I bailed during Another Brick, he fucked up that bass line and couldn't hit a note, I wasn't about to let those songs get ruined for me like DSOTM was. Maybe everybody was just singing along like that "wish you were fuckin' here" douche bag and didn't notice that it sounded worse than any show all weekend. I can't come up with a good explanation, Randy, but I remember telling you after Justice that I was getting the impression that people were loving that show. I didn't expect everyone to feel that way, though, wow. Is everyone deaf?

I think a lot of people just caught it from a distance, where the surround sound and all the prerecorded noise does a much better job of filling in their recollection of Pink Floyd music.

Plus, you forget how much SMOKE that motherfucker had. It must have been very hard to see how shitty the music sounded.

[shaggyduck]

lol. Justice sounded like shit. They're supposed to be the new big thing, and they can't even move the floor correctly. Several less well known DJs did a FAR superior job than them all weekend.

Roger is the man. He's a conceptual entertainer and he's the best at that. Obviously it wasn't Pink Floyd we were seeing, but we did get to see the mastermind behind some of their best work.

Get over yourselves.

[daft$tar]

greatest coachella show in history? two words - daft punk

[thelastgreatman]

lol. Justice sounded like shit. They're supposed to be the new big thing, and they can't even move the floor correctly. Several less well known DJs did a FAR superior job than them all weekend.

Roger is the man. He's a conceptual entertainer and he's the best at that. Obviously it wasn't Pink Floyd we were seeing, but we did get to see the mastermind behind some of their best work.

Get over yourselves.

Justice was about as good as any of the other 90 percent crap going on in the tent this year. What do you mean by "move the floor correctly?" I seem to keep hearing this argument that Justice's set was especially shitty (it's always kinda shitty--house music, after all) because they would let the beat drop all the way out and kill the momentum. Uh, fuck that shit. Frankly, one thing I was truly appreciative of in that set was that they pulled the energy all the way down repeatedly. You dancing monkeys that actually like to get in the tent and sweat while imitating real dancing all over a bunch of other sweaty uncoordinated motherfuckers for an hour non-stop don't get music.

[shaggyduck]

I'd argue that you don't get dancing. ...or EDM for that matter.

Justice Album = Decent
Justice Live = Pitiful

[thelastgreatman]

I'd argue that you don't get dancing. ...or EDM for that matter.

Justice Album = Decent
Justice Live = Pitiful

I'd argue that EDM has about as much in common with actual dancing as jambands. I'm not getting into yet another EDM argument on this fucking board though.

And Justice's album is not decent. Neither were Daft's.

[JSam67]

I think a lot of people just caught it from a distance, where the surround sound and all the prerecorded noise does a much better job of filling in their recollection of Pink Floyd music.

Plus, you forget how much SMOKE that motherfucker had. It must have been very hard to see how shitty the music sounded.

Haha yeah, there was a lot going on. When I walked through the crowd, everyone was singing anyway, so they probably didn't even hear him. I guess I'm just supposed to say, "wow, what a legend, this is the greatest show ever." But I saw other legends that actually put as much effort into their sound as their production, and that makes a difference to me.

[thelastgreatman]

The sound quality was fine, but the performances were fucking non-existent. I'm sorry. I saw Portishead fucking slay that stage with laser-like precision and look bored by it because they're that good at manipulating sound. They lazily wrecked your fucking face. I saw MMJ go out there and full on pure rock power annihiliate a sunset--and everyone in the band including the vocals was unbelievably on point.

THAT'S what gives you connection to a concert. Not listening to a bunch of fucking muppets do a SHIT job recreating someone else's music. Jesus Christ, I know at least ten guys that can play Gilmour's solos better than that and sing better than that too. And they wouldn't have shown up in some cocksucking leather vest with a douchebag haircut looking like a big twat in need of a boot all over the fucking screens.

[shaggyduck]

Syd didn't develop shit. Fuck Syd.

LOL.

Yes, and Daft Punk's albums all suck.

[thelastgreatman]

... YES. Precisely. In album form all they fucking did was rip off 70s soul tunes and throw a fucking vocoder on it.

And Syd was just another psychedelic music fucko. Pink Floyd with Syd < Jefferson Airplane. Pink Floyd after Syd > almost everyone.

[shaggyduck]

all they fucking did was rip off 70s soul tunes and throw a fucking vocoder on it


I wish more people knew how to do that. It sounds so simple. *pokes self in eye*

http://www.tranism.com/weblog/images/daftpunk-pyramidsetup.jpg

[thelastgreatman]

Alive 2007 is a different story. That was actually a brilliant work, drawing on their strength for concept, technology, and layering of the shit they'd stolen. If you can take four stolen things and make them all fit together there's actually some skill in that--but you can't listen to Cola Bottle Baby and seriously tell me that Harder Better on its own--the original album version--honestly deserves credit.

[PC-2 Violence]

I'd argue that EDM has about as much in common with actual dancing as jambands. I'm not getting into yet another EDM argument on this fucking board though.

And Justice's album is not decent. Neither were Daft's.


Verbal diarrhea.

[shaggyduck]

Alive 2007 is a different story. That was actually a brilliant work, drawing on their strength for concept, technology, and layering of the shit they'd stolen. If you can take four stolen things and make them all fit together there's actually some skill in that--but you can't listen to Cola Bottle Baby and seriously tell me that Harder Better on its own--the original album version--honestly deserves credit.

I can and I will.

Discovery was a great album. The DVD Interstella 5555 is even more amazing.

Can't wait for their next studio album!

[rockrdudetim]

I like Roger Waters I really liked his latest album its so great to listen to when im chillen in my room just completely ripped. I wish I coulda seen him at Coachella this year but I'm going to school in Chicago so i'm stuck with all those washed up artists lollapalooza has headlining.

[BROKENDOLL]

Randy seems to think he's some invincible, God-Like entity with the only good taste in music around here. I'd sure like to take a peek into the future about 30+ years from now and see how Portishead, Justice, etc... along with his acid-fried mind are doing then...

[Young blood]

c3 sucks dick

[rockrdudetim]

whats c3?

[Young blood]

Think about it jerkoff.

[rockrdudetim]

dude i dont know. did coachella release an album named third?

[Young blood]

LOLLAPALOOZA GOTS KANYE!

[rockrdudetim]

i know thats so lame!!!! they couldnt get any rock legends like waters and prince so they have to sign stupid hip hop acts. cant spell crap without rap guys.

[wolverine]

lol

[wolverine]

Did any of you guys have ears at this show? This was the biggest disappointment all weekend. Sure the production was cool and it was fun to get distracted. When you don't know which way to look, it's a pretty good sign that the music isn't on point. He can't sing, he can't play bass, the guys in his band were not impressive... Floyd is one of my favorite bands, DSOTM perhaps my 2nd favorite album ever, but it failed... Waters was a letdown, I can't believe people think it's the greatest show ever. People who think that must have somehow missed Portishead/Prince.


You didn't see Waters. You didn't even go on sunday. Nice troll though. Don't be upset because an old man came into Coachella with his rock band and mauled Portishead. They never had a chance.

[wolverine]

I think a lot of people just caught it from a distance, where the surround sound and all the prerecorded noise does a much better job of filling in their recollection of Pink Floyd music.

Plus, you forget how much SMOKE that motherfucker had. It must have been very hard to see how shitty the music sounded.

I think you need to clean out your ears and lay off the coffee.

[wolverine]

LOL.

Yes, and Daft Punk's albums all suck.


I wonder how many Yes and Rush albums this guy has in his collection.

[wolverine]

THAT'S what gives you connection to a concert. Not listening to a bunch of fucking muppets do a SHIT job recreating someone else's music. Jesus Christ, I know at least ten guys that can play Gilmour's solos better than that and sing better than that too.


Someone elses music? Did you check the songwriting credits for Waters setlist?

Syd not starting shit?

Kansas the greatest band ever? Lincoln Park cutting edge? Nickleback a solid rock band?

[thelastgreatman]

I'm referring to the rest of the band, asshole. Suck that show's cock all you want, musically it absolutely pales in comparison to any previous Floyd performance, with or without the man who is still the genius responsible for it.

There's no fucking reason Roger Waters had to hire a cover band and not get ONE fucking guy that could play the guitar or sing half as well as the people he used to boss around.

[bartelby]

... YES. Precisely. In album form all they fucking did was rip off 70s soul tunes and throw a fucking vocoder on it.

And Syd was just another psychedelic music fucko. Pink Floyd with Syd < Jefferson Airplane. Pink Floyd after Syd > almost everyone.

Your musical taste < your taste in hats

Waters' show was epic, douchy guitarist or not...the man is fucking talented

Justice's show was fine but had zero sense of momentum this year....stopping the music and making endless christ-like poses does not make you a top sahara act no matter how good your tunes are

[wolverine]

I'm referring to the rest of the band, asshole. Suck that show's cock all you want, musically it absolutely pales in comparison to any previous Floyd performance, with or without the man who is still the genius responsible for it.

There's no fucking reason Roger Waters had to hire a cover band and not get ONE fucking guy that could play the guitar or sing half as well as the people he used to boss around.

Again, do you *understand* the song credits for Waters setlist? Go research it and then come back and say he was playing someone else's music. Seriously. The show was heralded as largely flawless both musically and visually.

If you want to troll, start a new thread.

It sounds like you're some biased Gilmour guy. And to bash Syd Barrett who started the band and art rock in general tells me you probably have a Dream Theater record in your collection.

[wolverine]

New Coachella video, Roger doing "Shine On":



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[PC-2 Violence]

I'm referring to the rest of the band, asshole. Suck that show's cock all you want, musically it absolutely pales in comparison to any previous Floyd performance, with or without the man who is still the genius responsible for it.

There's no fucking reason Roger Waters had to hire a cover band and not get ONE fucking guy that could play the guitar or sing half as well as the people he used to boss around.

While we were all having the time of our Coachella lives, you were wandering aimlessly, wondering if the AT&T Blue Room was still open.

[shaggyduck]

I wonder how many Yes and Rush albums this guy has in his collection.

No amount of sarcasm gets by this guy.

Try reading more than 1 post back before criticizing someone. I was mocking TLGM who said that all of Daft's albums suck.

[thelastgreatman]

Listen "Wolverine," I've been arguing in favor of Waters over every other member of the band for close to a year now--your ass just popped up a month ago with your fucking bandwagon riding shit. I'm WELL FUCKING FAMILIAR with the songwriting credits because I've cited them to every asshole who tries to claim that Gilmour was the more important part of the band. Anyone who knows Floyd knows Waters is responsible for their truly great work, and he is.


THAT DOESN'T MEAN HIS CONCERT GETS A FREE WALK THOUGH, ASSHOLES. If you can't put together people who will perform the music you so lovingly and obsessively crafted all those years ago with at least the quality of a decent fucking Floyd cover band, then I'm sorry--he's disgracing his music.

Worse than that, he's just putting on a shitty fucking concert. That's it. A whole lot of non-performing clouded over with all the prerecorded sounds BOOMING OUT OF SURROUND SOUND SPEAKERS and smoke and fireballs and a pig and a plane, and a whole lot of shit to keep everyone's attention off the fact that they're all singing along not because they love the music, but because NO ONE ON STAGE IS SINGING IT AUDIBLY OR WELL.

[rage patton]

Am I the only one who finds it hilarious Randy hated Waters, but loved Justice? No offence man, Im just saying. Im sure you see the humour in it too.

[wolverine]

Something is very wrong with you.

Video doesn't lie. Incredible sound and performance. The Shine on was fantastic. And so is this video:

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[wolverine]

No amount of sarcasm gets by this guy.

Try reading more than 1 post back before criticizing someone. I was mocking TLGM who said that all of Daft's albums suck.

That post was addressed to TLGM. I got your sarcasm 100%.

[shaggyduck]

That post was addressed to TLGM. I got your sarcasm 100%.

rock on

[shaggyduck]

Listen "Wolverine," I've been arguing in favor of Waters over every other member of the band for close to a year now--your ass just popped up a month ago with your fucking bandwagon riding shit. I'm WELL FUCKING FAMILIAR with the songwriting credits because I've cited them to every asshole who tries to claim that Gilmour was the more important part of the band. Anyone who knows Floyd knows Waters is responsible for their truly great work, and he is.


THAT DOESN'T MEAN HIS CONCERT GETS A FREE WALK THOUGH, ASSHOLES. If you can't put together people who will perform the music you so lovingly and obsessively crafted all those years ago with at least the quality of a decent fucking Floyd cover band, then I'm sorry--he's disgracing his music.

Worse than that, he's just putting on a shitty fucking concert. That's it. A whole lot of non-performing clouded over with all the prerecorded sounds BOOMING OUT OF SURROUND SOUND SPEAKERS and smoke and fireballs and a pig and a plane, and a whole lot of shit to keep everyone's attention off the fact that they're all singing along not because they love the music, but because NO ONE ON STAGE IS SINGING IT AUDIBLY OR WELL.

Sale on Vagisil on aisle four. Sale on Vagisil on aisle four.

http://www.mexerica.blogger.com.br/vagisil.jpg

[wolverine]

the opening to Waters show. There are some excellent Coachella vids popping up the last couple days:

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People were just so blown away.

[wolverine]

Sale on Vagisil on aisle four. Sale on Vagisil on aisle four.

http://www.mexerica.blogger.com.br/vagisil.jpg


hahhaha

I like TLGM's energy, but he's a bit too spazzy.

[ThomThom]

Don't be upset because an old man came into Coachella with his rock band and mauled Portishead. They never had a chance.

You can't be fucking serious... Portishead disappeared for over a decade, came on stage and fucked everybody's face three times over. Roger Waters took his same old fucking shtick with the dumbass pig, the surround sound, the visuals and blah blah fucking blah that he has been shopping around every continent for nearly 3 years and you mean to tell me he "mauled" Portishead? This is absurd, I understand if some may have liked Waters performance better than Portishead's for nostalgic purposes or for newbies experiencing the closest thing they will get to Pink Floyd in their lifetime, but "mauled"? That comment is proof that your head is way too far up that geezers crusty old over hyped ass... DAVID GILMOUR FOR COACHELLA 2009!

[bartelby]

spazzy to say the least...

the fact is that, if you came expecting a Floyd show, you're retarded...you might as well show up to a Paul Mcartney show expecting his backup band to handle Lennon and Harrison's parts without skipping a beat

[Edmontonian]

tied daft punk. seriously. a plane flying overhead dropping stuff on us I thought we were in a war zone

[Geno_g]

Honestly all you guy's need to stop bitching because the whole show blow my mind, I thought roger waters is a perfect act for coachella, and saturday portishead and prince was great, if you didn't want to see him why didn't you go see simian mobile disco, and chromeo, I thought that the roger set was great, and met all expectations for me, but I was tripping on shrooms.

The planes dropping crap, the pig getting loose on accident (they didn't have air clearance to do that), the pyros were great.

I thought Justice was overrated, I was in the tent dancing but still in shock from roger.

[Geno_g]

spazzy to say the least...

the fact is that, if you came expecting a Floyd show, you're retarded...you might as well show up to a Paul Mcartney show expecting his backup band to handle Lennon and Harrison's parts without skipping a beat

Serious, I was shocked the whole eight hour drive home, listened to Dark Side Of The Moon and got chills and goosebumps.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

heaven forbid he play the same show more than once

[Goodtoknow]

You can't be fucking serious... Portishead disappeared for over a decade, came on stage and fucked everybody's face three times over. Roger Waters took his same old fucking shtick with the dumbass pig, the surround sound, the visuals and blah blah fucking blah that he has been shopping around every continent for nearly 3 years and you mean to tell me he "mauled" Portishead? This is absurd, I understand if some may have liked Waters performance better than Portishead's for nostalgic purposes or for newbies experiencing the closest thing they will get to Pink Floyd in their lifetime, but "mauled"? That comment is proof that your head is way too far up that geezers crusty old over hyped ass... DAVID GILMOUR FOR COACHELLA 2009!

finely someone is talking fucking sense!!

thank you thomthom

[wolverine]

You can't be fucking serious... Portishead disappeared for over a decade, came on stage and fucked everybody's face three times over. Roger Waters took his same old fucking shtick with the dumbass pig, the surround sound, the visuals and blah blah fucking blah that he has been shopping around every continent for nearly 3 years and you mean to tell me he "mauled" Portishead? This is absurd, I understand if some may have liked Waters performance better than Portishead's for nostalgic purposes or for newbies experiencing the closest thing they will get to Pink Floyd in their lifetime, but "mauled"? That comment is proof that your head is way too far up that geezers crusty old over hyped ass... DAVID GILMOUR FOR COACHELLA 2009!


This wasn't the same Waters show...it was much bigger and adjusted for Coachella.

Also, please. Portishead is a really nice mood band. But they are several notches below Roger Waters in talent - especially live. I really enjoy their albums and would put them in my top thirty bands. But...come on. Waters performance is much more suited for 60,000 people on a main outdoor stage. Portishead's was meant for a small hall. There's just so much more complexity and variables musically in a Waters show.

[wolverine]

Honestly all you guy's need to stop bitching because the whole show blow my mind, I thought roger waters is a perfect act for coachella, and saturday portishead and prince was great, if you didn't want to see him why didn't you go see simian mobile disco, and chromeo, I thought that the roger set was great, and met all expectations for me, but I was tripping on shrooms.

The planes dropping crap, the pig getting loose on accident (they didn't have air clearance to do that), the pyros were great.

I thought Justice was overrated, I was in the tent dancing but still in shock from roger.

It's just a couple pissed off dudes stirring the pot, lol.

[rockrdudetim]

yaaa! pot! whooo!

[nationocean]

You can't be fucking serious... Portishead disappeared for over a decade, came on stage and fucked everybody's face three times over. Roger Waters took his same old fucking shtick with the dumbass pig, the surround sound, the visuals and blah blah fucking blah that he has been shopping around every continent for nearly 3 years and you mean to tell me he "mauled" Portishead? This is absurd, I understand if some may have liked Waters performance better than Portishead's for nostalgic purposes or for newbies experiencing the closest thing they will get to Pink Floyd in their lifetime, but "mauled"? That comment is proof that your head is way too far up that geezers crusty old over hyped ass... DAVID GILMOUR FOR COACHELLA 2009!

QFT

[Goodtoknow]

i swear if i hear one more person say "ROGER WATERS WAS THE BRAIN OF PINK FLOYD! ALL THE OTHER 3 WERE MINDLESS DRONES THAT OBEYED ONLY WATERS EVERY WORD! THEY DIDNT BELIEVE IN COLLABORATION JUST BOW TO ROGER AND DO AS HE SAYS!" i will probaly bitch more.

thanks for giving me something to rant about.

[wolverine]

i swear if i hear one more person say "ROGER WATERS WAS THE BRAIN OF PINK FLOYD! ALL THE OTHER 3 WERE MINDLESS DRONES THAT OBEYED ONLY WATERS EVERY WORD! THEY DIDNT BELIEVE IN COLLABORATION JUST BOW TO ROGER AND DO AS HE SAYS!" i will probaly bitch more.

thanks for giving me something to rant about.


All of the live innovation was Waters. David and Rick didn't care.

[shaggyduck]

I mean, Roger Waters was the mastermind behind The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon, not to mention Animals and others.

sooo... what's your point?

[ThomThom]

This wasn't the same Waters show...it was much bigger and adjusted for Coachella.

Also, please. Portishead is a really nice mood band. But they are several notches below Roger Waters in talent - especially live. I really enjoy their albums and would put them in my top thirty bands. But...come on. Waters performance is much more suited for 60,000 people on a main outdoor stage. Portishead's was meant for a small hall. There's just so much more complexity and variables musically in a Waters show.

Were you even there for Portishead's set? You really truly think that the stellar set they performed on Saturday night was much more suited for a "small hall"?... I think they had a pretty firm hold of the entire polo field that night, unforgettable to say the least.

As for Waters, let me go back to the Bowl show I attended some time ago...

Pig... Check
Same set list... Check
Same visuals... Check

Aside from the amazing sound system the main stage is capable of providing and the airplane that dropped confetti on everybody, I think you can pretty much call it the same god damn show. Aside from the sound, I could give two shits about some airplane flying over and taking a dump on the polo field, you could have Jesus flying over and dropping white kittens over Coachella and it is still the same fucking Waters show. Seriously wolverine, get your head out of his anus, don't forget to take a shower once your out either.

Also, I understand and respect anybody's opinion for Waters performance and I am glad alot of you finally got to experience it, I experienced it and obviously did not get as much out of it as others did and that is fine, but I am not going to let some Waters gooch licker belittle Portishead's ri-fucking-diculous set on Saturday night. It was in no way shape or form "mauled" by anybody and definitely wasn't "mood" music that was meant for a "small hall".

[rage patton]

If Portishead go on tour next year, I would kill to see them in a theatre.

[JSam67]

ThomThom, you couldn't be more right. If there was any mauling, it was the 1-2 punch of Portishead/Prince that I don't think will ever be topped.

[wolverine]

ThomThom, you couldn't be more right. If there was any mauling, it was the 1-2 punch of Portishead/Prince that I don't think will ever be topped.


Except that you didn't go Sunday....

[wolverine]

Were you even there for Portishead's set? You really truly think that the stellar set they performed on Saturday night was much more suited for a "small hall"?... I think they had a pretty firm hold of the entire polo field that night, unforgettable to say the least.


Check with Pitchfork and anyone else who went all three days.



Pig... Check

Bigger



Same set list... Check

Ambient noise for 20 minutes between major sets



Same visuals... Check

Huh? Giant spotlights, far more pyro, airplane, way more smoke



Also, I understand and respect anybody's opinion for Waters performance and I am glad alot of you finally got to experience it, I experienced it and obviously did not get as much out of it as others did and that is fine, but I am not going to let some Waters gooch licker belittle Portishead's ri-fucking-diculous set on Saturday night. It was in no way shape or form "mauled" by anybody and definitely wasn't "mood" music that was meant for a "small hall".


Sorry. I'm a big Portishead fan and Waters mauled them. That was a full-on rock trip. Portishead was a beautiful little mood piece.

[JSam67]

You didn't see Waters. You didn't even go on sunday. Nice troll though. Don't be upset because an old man came into Coachella with his rock band and mauled Portishead. They never had a chance.

You clearly know a lot about me. I had an amazing spot for MMJ and Waters. Pink Floyd is one of my favorite bands. I don't know why I'm wasting my time defending that I saw a show with like 20 other board members and I have no clue who you are. But that show was all smoke and mirrors. I prefer good music at music festivals and just because I love the man and his former band doesn't mean that it automatically ruled. It was visually spectacular, and an audio nightmare.

[ThomThom]

So, wolverine... Did you attend on Saturday? Did you see Portishead's set?

[wolverine]

You clearly know a lot about me. I had an amazing spot for MMJ and Waters. Pink Floyd is one of my favorite bands. I don't know why I'm wasting my time defending that I saw a show with like 20 other board members and I have no clue who you are. But that show was all smoke and mirrors. I prefer good music at music festivals and just because I love the man and his former band doesn't mean that it automatically ruled. It was visually spectacular, and an audio nightmare.

hahaha an audio nightmare? When everyone in this thread unequivocally has stated it was the best concert sound they ever heard?

Obviously you did not go on Sunday. Your top ten clearly indicates you didn't, and you are pulling everyone's leg.

[ThomThom]

A bigger pig? Ambient noise between sets? Spotlights? WOW... That makes all the fucking difference in the world! I have to see it again!

[wolverine]

Looks like the Portishead guys gave up on their thread and decided to try and trash this one. Strange.

I don't see a bunch of people who were blown away by Waters jumping in the Portishead thread and trashing it. Looks like a bit of jealousy.

[ThomThom]

Looks like the Portishead guys gave up on their thread and decided to try and trash this one. Strange.

Hugs and kisses baby, hugs and kisses.

[rage patton]

ThomThom, you couldn't be more right. If there was any mauling, it was the 1-2 punch of Portishead/Prince that I don't think will ever be topped.

Don't you mean 1-2-3 punch of Kraftwerk, Portishead and Prince? THAT will never be topped. Kraftwerk were phenomenal.

[NicoDread]

People can't have different tastes in music, of course...

[Goodtoknow]

i am starting to think wolverine IS Roger Waters and is getting his ego hurt.

in all reality. noone is saying Waters was trash or waters was jack johnson all we are saying is we personally might have gotten more enjoyment out of portishead/prince/kraftwerk whomever.

and just to fuel the flame i would have rather seen david gilmour...

[shaggyduck]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/gobuffs10/coachellazeppelin-1.jpg

[Gogolicious]

i am starting to think wolverine IS Roger Waters and is getting his ego hurt.

in all reality. noone is saying Waters was trash or waters was jack johnson all we are saying is we personally might have gotten more enjoyment out of portishead/prince/kraftwerk whomever.

and just to fuel the flame i would have rather seen david gilmour...


hmmm....understandable..but why aren't you posting this in the Portishead thread? Wolverine made a good point: why are angry Portishead fans giving up on the Port thread and coming into this to stir things up? Because it's the more popular thread? Because Waters got more attention with his spectacle of a performance?

[Goodtoknow]

because its a message board.

and it wouldnt be fun if we all sat in a thread and kissed everyones ass now would it...

[Goodtoknow]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/gobuffs10/coachellazeppelin-1.jpg

and that is not a bad poster my man...

[Gogolicious]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/gobuffs10/coachellazeppelin-1.jpg


Great job! Waters was def the highlight of the weekend for me.

biggest mind melt
best sound I have ever heard at a concert, in quality and surround
great visuals
lots of variety in the pacing, like a roller coaster


and....the songlist was incredibly strong. I don't think I've ever seen a Coachella setlist with as much staying power as that one.

[wolverine]

Wow, Tito is spot-on. I bailed during Another Brick, he fucked up that bass line and couldn't hit a note

When did he miss notes on his bass?

Here's a video of that song at Coachella for reference:


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I couldn't quite make it out with 60,000 people clapping, dancing, screaming and singing along.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

maybe buckethead will headline in 2009? he's a pretty good guitar player, so his overall show is probably just as good as roger waters'.

[TheWatcher]

Josh, we're seriously like THE ONLY FUCKING PEOPLE that were bothered by Waters. Oh no, wait, Tito knew what was up too. Did Dude tell you about that? Tito just bounced when they started to play Comfortably Numb and booked over to Justice. Later, Dude asked him what that was about and Tito said (rather perfectly, I think), "No fucking way I'm going to stand there and watch some sneering cocksucker in a leather vest with a shaved chest butcher my favorite guitar solo of all time."

David Gilmour should be playing that guitar solo.

I still wish I had been able to stay.

[wolverine]

maybe buckethead will headline in 2009? he's a pretty good guitar player, so his overall show is probably just as good as roger waters'.


hehehehe

[ThomThom]

maybe buckethead will headline in 2009? he's a pretty good guitar player, so his overall show is probably just as good as roger waters'.

We have to get him a bigger pig, allotment of time for ambient noise, and spotlights. Oh man, I can't wait for "The Buckethead Experience"!

[wolverine]

We have to get him a bigger pig, allotment of time for ambient noise, and spotlights. Oh man, I can't wait for "The Buckethead Experience"!

Stop acting so jealous ThomThom.

[ThomThom]

Stop acting so jealous ThomThom.

You are so right... Life sucks. =(

[BrettShipes]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/cafin8edpenguin/Thatsit.jpg

I needn't say anything more.

[wolverine]

The giant sky light pyramid was formed while ambient jungle music was piped in through the huge soundsystem between the 1st and 2nd sets:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/2455822603_d31f92d60d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2455823027_1fd86fea3e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/2455822639_eef1e30b7c_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/2456650714_de8d9d26d5_o.jpg

[wolverine]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/cafin8edpenguin/Thatsit.jpg

I needn't say anything more.


Incredible shot. Did you take it?

[BrettShipes]

Wolverine, what kind of camera were you using?

[BrettShipes]

Incredible shot. Did you take it?

And yes, I did.

[idrive1life]

Its an awesome/spectacular show. But (for most posters/regulars of this board) its not even #1 in Top 5/10 (Polls) threads for 2008. ;)

[wolverine]

Its an awesome/spectacular show. But (for most posters/regulars of this board) its not even #1 in Top 5/10 (Polls) threads for 2008. ;)

And that's about as scientific and accurate as saying "global warming is a hoax" because yesterday was cold.

[wolverine]

Wolverine, what kind of camera were you using?


I didn't take that. I wish I did. Whatever it was it had a nice high clean ISO.

[shaggyduck]

MAN MADE global warming is a hoax.

I don't think the ice age ended because cavemen were burning too many camp fires.

[stinkbutt]

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/gobuffs10/coachellazeppelin-1.jpg

Dumbest thing I've seen since that "Happy Coachella" sticker

[BrettShipes]

I didn't take that. I wish I did. Whatever it was it had a nice high clean ISO.

I was ganna say... there's no way you can get that sky shot without a long exposure and a tripod... probably one of the pros there? looks like some were taken from close to the soundbooth. Man I need to bring a better camera next year...

[wolverine]

I was ganna say... there's no way you can get that sky shot without a long exposure and a tripod... probably one of the pros there? looks like some were taken from close to the soundbooth. Man I need to bring a better camera next year...

What camera did you have? It did a hell of a job on the shot you posted.

[idrive1life]

And that's about as scientific and accurate as saying "global warming is a hoax" because yesterday was cold.

Scientific polls are overrated. Coachella board knows best. ;)

[wolverine]

Scientific polls are overrated.

Coachella board knows best.


Couple things wrong with that:

1. most people in this thread didn't "vote"
2. most of the people who voted didn't see Sunday

So it's really just entertainment and not really reprensentative of anything.

[ThomThom]

I'll do this one last time... Wolverine, did you attend Saturday? Did you watch Portishead? Wait a minute... Did you even go on Sunday?

[idrive1life]

Couple things wrong with that:

1. most people in this thread didn't "vote"
2. most of the people who voted didn't see Sunday

So it's really just entertainment and not really reprensentative of anything.

One thing .. dont take my posts too seriously and this greatest of all-time bull shits.

Ooh , thats two.

[thestripe]

Greatest show in Coachella history.

We all know my vote is the vote of all votes.

[idrive1life]

Hell Yes! ^ lol

[ThomThom]

Greatest show in Coachella history.

We all know my vote is the vote of all votes.

I can live with this, as long as YOU think it is the greatest show.

[wolverine]

I can live with this, as long as YOU think it is the greatest show.


What's your deal, ThomThom? If you love Portishead, talk them up in their thread. No need to try to tear down the Waters show.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/cafin8edpenguin/Thatsit.jpg

I needn't say anything more.



I'm saying.

[orbit]

I love Portishead and I don't get the point of this discussion.

[digitalface]

I'm not gonna read all of this... but I'll simply agree that in the past years of Coach there has never been such a moment. NEVER. Waters was the apex of the festival's history so far. There were so many devastating performances in '08, that it will be legendary in GV's catalogue. You that were there will be talking about it for a decade. Feel proud to witness the artrapture of the best live music presented in our lifetimes. See you on the fields in '09--
NO. Matter. What.

Luvs.

[shaggyduck]

Dumbest thing I've seen since that "Happy Coachella" sticker

Life must be going pretty good for you.

[digitalface]

I love Portishead and I don't get the point of this discussion.

Portishead. Second best set of the weekend. Those who understand know.

[digitalface]

I'm saying.

Trick, I love that you opened your mind, and that's what this is all about. You've grown this year.

Big Hugs.

[ThomThom]

What's your deal, ThomThom? If you love Portishead, talk them up in their thread. No need to try to tear down the Waters show.

I am just trying to verify whether or not the person who had the balls to make the ridiculous statement that Roger Waters set "mauled" Portishead's set even went to Coachella at all.

[Trick Loves The Kids]

I am just trying to verify whether or not the person who had the balls to make the ridiculous statement that Roger Waters set "mauled" Portishead's set even went to Coachella at all.

I wasn't a huge fan of Waters or Portishead before Coachella and I saw both of them perform. Portishead were dope but Waters was on another level, and that was the point.


Trick, I love that you opened your mind, and that's what this is all about. You've grown this year.

Big Hugs.

I watched "The Wall" today. WHAT.

[orbit]

Portishead. Second best set of the weekend. Those who understand know.

uh, well, I loved Waters set, but for me it goes like this:

Prince
Portishead
Aphex
Waters

not that Waters was the worst of those 4. his set was the best of the other +121. I enjoyed them all a lot.

[bobert]

First of all, let it be known that I did not drink or do drugs the whole weekend.
So I watched and listened to the whole show sober.

Second, if you cannot tell the songs:
Southampton Dock
The Fletcher Memorial Home
Perfect Sense, Parts 1 and 2 "submarine tune"
Leaving Beirut (unrealeased)
were lip synced, then you are really helpless.

It was obvious, by the voice sound of the first set of songs up to wish you were here, then the clear STRONG PERFECT voice he was putting out during Fletcher, which is mostly quiet musically where the voice really stands out.

its really sad you people are that dopey and cannot tell or even pay attention to OBVIOUS detail.
But I still enjoyed the show, one of the best concerts in my life.

This is what would have happened if his pre recorded voice failed to play.
i almost didnt want to post this cause it makes me cringe and i have great respect for roger
but when im right, im right
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Trent, I think he sounds fine, considering the very poor quality of the Youtube video. That's your problem, Trent, you keep using these goddamn videos that are compressed, diminished versions of the actual videos, as proof of your little theory. Even the best live recordings and mixes are a poor substitute for the real thing, and I bet anyone who saw that show live would tell you it sounded amazing. At Coachella, it wouldn't surprise me if he used some pre-recorded backing track to harmonize with his live vocals, but I was paying close attention and it seemed clear to me that all his vocals were the real deal. There were songs where his band took over for Gilmour's vocals, or verses that are just out his range these days, but I felt that added to the whole collaborative, communal feel that their set permeated. You enjoyed the show Trent. Hasn't the proverbial horse suffered enough? :yyablo

[Trick Loves The Kids]

Oh and I think my brain has been hardwired to support Barack Obama now. I supported him before Coachella but I think a combination of the drugs I was on and all the things happening during "Sheep" left me completely vulnerable and then the endorsement on the bottom of the pig really hit my brain hard. Someone was telling me about all the horrible tactics his opponents will use if he gets the nomination and my heart kind of sank. This didn't happen before last weekend, I'm almost positive it's because of the pig.

[shaggyduck]

lol. Do you really think it matters who you vote for?

It still amazes me that people have any faith in this government or our electoral system...

[Trick Loves The Kids]

I don't want to turn this thread into a political debate but I'm assuming a lot of people who thought that way stayed home in '00 and '04 and look how that turned out!

[BrettShipes]

What camera did you have? It did a hell of a job on the shot you posted.

A wonderful Sony Cybershot W90. Not a bad little camera. I was also adjusting my iso and white balance all night... you'd be surprised how many people don't even know what iso is and take their night pictures with a "beach" setting or something stupid. I take a lot of pictures at concerts and keep fine tuning my "concert setting"... you just can't get a REALLY nice shot without a nice camera as much as I try. I would love to bring a Nikon DSLR and a tripod, but GV says I can't. :P

[digitalface]

uh, well, I loved Waters set, but for me it goes like this:

Prince
Portishead
Aphex
Waters

not that Waters was the worst of those 4. his set was the best of the other +121. I enjoyed them all a lot.

Whatevs. Waters and Portishead. The reason this year was worth it.

Prince is a fucking douchebag.

..and Aphex is overrrated live. There. I said it. And I'm a DJ. Brilliant at times on record, he is, but the man doesn't have an understanding of live dynamic. Sorry.

[shaggyduck]

I don't want to turn this thread into a political debate but I'm assuming a lot of people who thought that way stayed home in '00 and '04 and look how that turned out!

That's my point. You really believe either of those elections was won by a vote?!?! HAHAHAHAHA

2000 isn't even funny. The supreme court decided that one.
2004 was fraud in Ohio. There are people in prison for it right now.

Look. The fairytale America is long gone. We live in a bureaucratic dictatorship that is controlled by the ultra wealthy. Saddam Hussein had elections too. They just dress them up and make them a little more entertaining for us.

Political debates are pointless, because the arguments are usually over meaningless topics. We live in a sea of propaganda. It's not just the disinformation that pollutes our society, but also the total control over the discussion. Most important topics are hardly discussed.

Wake up people.

[bobert]

Did any of you guys have ears at this show? This was the biggest disappointment all weekend. Sure the production was cool and it was fun to get distracted. When you don't know which way to look, it's a pretty good sign that the music isn't on point. He can't sing, he can't play bass, the guys in his band were not impressive... Floyd is one of my favorite bands, DSOTM perhaps my 2nd favorite album ever, but it failed... Waters was a letdown, I can't believe people think it's the greatest show ever. People who think that must have somehow missed Portishead/Prince.


Josh, we're seriously like THE ONLY FUCKING PEOPLE that were bothered by Waters. Oh no, wait, Tito knew what was up too. Did Dude tell you about that? Tito just bounced when they started to play Comfortably Numb and booked over to Justice. Later, Dude asked him what that was about and Tito said (rather perfectly, I think), "No fucking way I'm going to stand there and watch some sneering cocksucker in a leather vest with a shaved chest butcher my favorite guitar solo of all time."

Ahh, Randy, and just as I was starting to like you. You can tell your snarky friend Tito that Gilmour's stunt-double didn't do the guitar solo on Comfortably Numb. Violinist Lili Haydn performed it instead, and it was breathtaking. There's always going to be detractors to any significant work of art, and I sure didn't expect Roger and crew to please everyone out of a crowd of 60,000. But don't question our hearing or our site. Don't know where you guys watched the show from, but from where I was standing it looked and sounded beautiful.

[orbit]

..and Aphex is overrrated live. There. I said it. And I'm a DJ. Brilliant at times on record, he is, but the man doesn't have an understanding of live dynamic. Sorry.

define live dynamic please.

[thelastgreatman]

I booked during Another Brick In The Wall--I'd had PLENTY.


Oh, a violin solo, huh? Awesome. Cause what I really wanted instead of one of my favorite guitar solos of all time was a fucking violin solo just because they didn't hire a single guy who can play guitar.

[orbit]

if they had a guy playing guitar instead, you would be all 'that guy sucked, gilmour ftw.'

[stinkbutt]

I booked during Another Brick In The Wall--I'd had PLENTY.


Oh, a violin solo, huh? Awesome. Cause what I really wanted instead of one of my favorite guitar solos of all time was a fucking violin solo just because they didn't hire a single guy who can play guitar.

I may be reading this wrong, but the violin solo was long before "Another Brick In The Wall".

[wolverine]

Ahh, Randy, and just as I was starting to like you. You can tell your snarky friend Tito that Gilmour's stunt-double didn't do the guitar solo on Comfortably Numb. Violinist Lili Haydn performed it instead, and it was breathtaking. There's always going to be detractors to any significant work of art, and I sure didn't expect Roger and crew to please everyone out of a crowd of 60,000. But don't question our hearing or our site. Don't know where you guys watched the show from, but from where I was standing it looked and sounded beautiful.


Lol. looks like TLGM made up the story about Tito and the Comfortably Numb guitar solo.

Anyone who goes into a Roger Waters show execting Gilmour to be born out of the floating pig, then walk down a stair of lasers for a shining guitar solo is sadly mistaken.

And if you look at the setlist, Waters wrote 90% of the music anyway.

Waters and Mason want a full blown Pink Floyd tour. Gilmour does not. Until then, deal with the guitarist.

[bobert]

I booked during Another Brick In The Wall--I'd had PLENTY.


Oh, a violin solo, huh? Awesome. Cause what I really wanted instead of one of my favorite guitar solos of all time was a fucking violin solo just because they didn't hire a single guy who can play guitar.

Nice 180, Randy. Seem to recall you describing Gilmour as a glorified session musician, now you seem appalled at how his work was reinterpreted that night. Don't know what kind of drugs you were on, but I think it's interesting that out of all the amazing things to look at during that show, you and you're friends found yourself fixating on the lead guitarist's outfit and lack of body hair. It's no wonder you weren't impressed if that's where you're mind was drawn.

[bobert]

I may be reading this wrong, but the violin solo was long before "Another Brick In The Wall".

There were several.

[shaggyduck]

lol. PWND

and for the record. That violinist was the illest

[wolverine]

There were several.



Ouch.

[bobert]

Ouch.

Ouch?

[wolverine]

Ouch?



Oh, a violin solo, huh? Awesome. Cause what I really wanted instead of one of my favorite guitar solos of all time was a fucking violin solo just because they didn't hire a single guy who can play guitar.

Referencing that.

[bobert]

You're good shit, Wolverine. Glad your 'Dark Side Of The Desert' experience was as awesome as mine.

[Goodtoknow]

That's my point. You really believe either of those elections was won by a vote?!?! HAHAHAHAHA

2000 isn't even funny. The supreme court decided that one.
2004 was fraud in Ohio. There are people in prison for it right now.

Look. The fairytale America is long gone. We live in a bureaucratic dictatorship that is controlled by the ultra wealthy. Saddam Hussein had elections too. They just dress them up and make them a little more entertaining for us.

Political debates are pointless, because the arguments are usually over meaningless topics. We live in a sea of propaganda. It's not just the disinformation that pollutes our society, but also the total control over the discussion. Most important topics are hardly discussed.

Wake up people.

i like you. you seem like a cool guy. but this is ignorant beyond belief.

beyyyyyond belief.

[bobert]

i like you. you seem like a cool guy. but this is ignorant beyond belief.

beyyyyyond belief.

Mother, should I trust the government?

[shaggyduck]

i like you. you seem like a cool guy. but this is ignorant beyond belief.

beyyyyyond belief.

I'm so far from ignorant it isn't even funny. I shouldn't be laughing.

[BeeII]

Waters was incredible, what a mind blowing show.

Prince on saturday was full of energy, Waters on sunday was a complete mindfuck.

[BROKENDOLL]

Waters was incredible, what a mind blowing show.

Prince on saturday was full of energy, Waters on sunday was a complete mindfuck.

And Randy on acid is a perfect example of the term disillusionally oppinionated asshole.

[thestripe]

...Prince is a fucking douchebag......

You obviously missed his set.



I booked during Another Brick In The Wall--I'd had PLENTY.


Oh, a violin solo, huh? Awesome. Cause what I really wanted instead of one of my favorite guitar solos of all time was a fucking violin solo just because they didn't hire a single guy who can play guitar.

So why did'nt you leave to catch Justice drop their shitty beats? Oh wait...

[betao]

All I know is that I got I was just stunned by Leaving Beirut. I had tears in my eyes during the end of that song.

[trentmorrison]

Trent, I think he sounds fine, considering the very poor quality of the Youtube video. That's your problem, Trent, you keep using these goddamn videos that are compressed, diminished versions of the actual videos, as proof of your little theory. Even the best live recordings and mixes are a poor substitute for the real thing, and I bet anyone who saw that show live would tell you it sounded amazing. At Coachella, it wouldn't surprise me if he used some pre-recorded backing track to harmonize with his live vocals, but I was paying close attention and it seemed clear to me that all his vocals were the real deal. There were songs where his band took over for Gilmour's vocals, or verses that are just out his range these days, but I felt that added to the whole collaborative, communal feel that their set permeated. You enjoyed the show Trent. Hasn't the proverbial horse suffered enough? :yyablo

dude im not teasing you, you are seriously fucked up if you think he sounds fine in that video of Have A Cigar, you really might have mental problems affecting your hearing and your brain processing the information.

and it is not problems of compression, this is the same pro shot concert where his voice is clear.
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this is the video where the playback fails and his voice is horrors
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[trentmorrison]

oh yea my roger waters video
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[summerkid]

randy, why the hell don't i get credit for telling you before hand. I had only been saying all the things you are saying now since the lineup came out.

[wolverine]

Yeah no problems there. His voice was shot. It's almost as bad as Meg's drumming.

Sounded fantastic for Coachella though.

[summerkid]

Yeah no problems there. His voice was shot. It's almost as bad as Meg's drumming.

Sounded fantastic for Coachella though.

her drumming is fine. Its simplistic, but that's the point isn't it? it fits the band's aesthetic. And yes....there is plenty wrong with his voice, you should really read the comments on youtube apparently the tv feed wasn't getting the pre recorded track but the audience was. Essentially he got caught lip synching.

[Basskitten85]

He was awesome..for those that must complain, you can never get away from that, the oscar the grouches out there. You knew the line up so why did you buy the 322.00 ticket? ignorance is bliss..So if you hated it oh well

[shaggyduck]

I only paid $175, but I thought it rocked

[jigsaw]

her drumming is fine. Its simplistic, but that's the point isn't it? it fits the band's aesthetic. And yes....there is plenty wrong with his voice, you should really read the comments on youtube apparently the tv feed wasn't getting the pre recorded track but the audience was. Essentially he got caught lip synching.

FAIL

[wolverine]

FAIL

Yup.

[summerkid]

I can't do anything but laugh at this. How can you argue with that video are you guys that deluded?

[summerkid]

He was awesome..for those that must complain, you can never get away from that, the oscar the grouches out there. You knew the line up so why did you buy the 322.00 ticket? ignorance is bliss..So if you hated it oh well

because i spend money for a ticket i have to like everybody performing at the festival? I had an amazing time at Coachella! Your logic is flawed.

[wolverine]

I can't do anything but laugh at this. How can you argue with that video are you guys that deluded?

No one cares. It was an off night for an old man that wasn't even the Coachella performance. Try to stay on topic.

[sonnyboy11]

No one cares. It was an off night for an old man that wasn't even the Coachella performance. Try to stay on topic.

Seriously. He was farking awful at Live 8 as well. Night and day between what I heard a Coachella. And no, it wasn't lip syncing. But to be fair, he had plenty of vocal 'help' up there. The show was outstanding regardless.

[psychoc&ndy]

I can't do anything but laugh at this. How can you argue with that video are you guys that deluded?

you're running out of lame shit to say, so you're resorting to posting videos of different performances? I'm sure all your favorite bands have at least a few videos where they completely suck ass. You can't argue with it, Waters' performance at Coachella was nothing short of immaculate

[summerkid]

you're running out of lame shit to say, so you're resorting to posting videos of different performances? I'm sure all your favorite bands have at least a few videos where they completely suck ass. You can't argue with it, Waters' performance at Coachella was nothing short of immaculate

First off: I didn't post the video

Second: it wasn't an off night (as shown by another video that guy posted from the very same concert) it was showing that he uses backing tracks and that he lip synched.

Third: No...I don't know of many bands that I like that sound thaaat bad on a given night. That sounded like an animal dying, I couldn't even watch the whole thing.

[frozen pilgrim]

First off: I didn't post the video

Second: it wasn't an off night (as shown by another video that guy posted from the very same concert) it was showing that he uses backing tracks and that he lip synched.

Third: No...I don't know of many bands that I like that sound thaaat bad on a given night. That sounded like an animal dying, I couldn't even watch the whole thing.

your posts lack basic paragraph structure, and the result is that your arguments come off as ungrounded and borderline retarted.

is your complaint that waters didn't sing well, or that his vocals were pre-recorded?
it CAN'T be both- why would someone lip sync to a bad track?

if your complaint is lip-syncing, it's not valid for coachella, which is what this thread is about- waters at coachella.
he was NOT lip syncing. he also wasn't vocally perfect.

and FYI, it does not fucking matter one iota how a video was shot originally- EVERYTHING ON YOUTUBE IS COMPRESSED- BOTH VIDEO AND AUDIO-
EVERYTHING. how in the FUCK do you think they get it to stream?
you think even a T1 line could stream even NTSC quality video in fucking FLASH PLAYER FORMAT?!

trent, you're an asshole, and an idiot, and I'm starting to think you're related to microlovebeat.

why don't you two go choke on each other's cocks and die

[frozen pilgrim]

Whatevs. Waters and Portishead. The reason this year was worth it.

Prince is a fucking douchebag.

..and Aphex is overrrated live. There. I said it. And I'm a DJ. Brilliant at times on record, he is, but the man doesn't have an understanding of live dynamic. Sorry.

you don't deserve to listen to pink floyd OR portishead

you seriously fail at music, fail at life, and fail at basic fucking cognition.

let's hear some of your mixes, asshole.

[thelastgreatman]

Jesus Christ, you assholes need to go listen to any instance of Floyd with or without Waters performing those songs or even Waters solo shows performing The Wall and try and tell me the Coach performance wasn't unbelievably inferior.

[frozen pilgrim]

Jesus Christ, you assholes need to go listen to any instance of Floyd with or without Waters performing those songs or even Waters solo shows performing The Wall and try and tell me the Coach performance wasn't unbelievably inferior.

of COURSE it was inferior to you, man;

you built it up way too much. you were the biggest hype-man on this board for waters. you were the friggin' flava flav of dark side of the moon.
and then you took a shitload of (*presumably*) lsd, perhaps in combination with other drugs, and the conscious events and experience of the concert clashed with your subconscious- all the perfect, sublime stuff you'd built up in your head. and the end result was unpleasant for you, and I'm sorry it worked out that way.

you know a lot of people on this board wouldn't bullshit about stuff like this. I myself am the first person to jump right down the throat of any band that blows one at coachella (read- my feelings about scars on broadway), and I really seriously loved waters' show.
did you not stick around for dark side?
I thought comfortably numb and leaving beirut were slow, almst challenging parts of the show, but my god, man. the lights, and the perfect synth modeling (looked like they actually had a combination of old gear and new stuff), and the guitarists' total respect for how gilmour recorded the album made for a great experience. it wasn't pink floyd, but it was still incredibly special

[thelastgreatman]

of COURSE it was inferior to you, man;

you built it up way too much. you were the biggest hype-man on this board for waters. you were the friggin' flava flav of dark side of the moon.
and then you took a shitload of (*presumably*) lsd, perhaps in combination with other drugs, and the conscious events and experience of the concert clashed with your subconscious- all the perfect, sublime stuff you'd built up in your head. and the end result was unpleasant for you, and I'm sorry it worked out that way.

you know a lot of people on this board wouldn't bullshit about stuff like this. I myself am the first person to jump right down the throat of any band that blows one at coachella (read- my feelings about scars on broadway), and I really seriously loved waters' show.
did you not stick around for dark side?
I thought comfortably numb and leaving beirut were slow, almst challenging parts of the show, but my god, man. the lights, and the perfect synth modeling (looked like they actually had a combination of old gear and new stuff), and the guitarists' total respect for how gilmour recorded the album made for a great experience. it wasn't pink floyd, but it was still incredibly special

THE GUITARISTS' RESPECT?! WHAT FUCKING RESPECT?! Oh, go fuck yourself, you blind bitch. I stuck around for Dark Side and I couldn't believe how fucking pathetic they managed to make Eclipse, you're out of your fucking dome.

[wolverine]

Jesus Christ, you assholes need to go listen to any instance of Floyd with or without Waters performing those songs or even Waters solo shows performing The Wall and try and tell me the Coach performance wasn't unbelievably inferior.


I saw the Waters-less Pink Floyd in 1994 and Coachella beat it. Waters show had way more energy and intensity. The same for Gilmour's recent tour which put me to sleep. Waters and Wright add that great mellow spacy vibe, but Waters is the real rock n' roll man in that outfit.

But feel free to tell us more about how your friend "Tito" saw this imaginary solo in CF and never knew about the violinist....

[wolverine]

THE GUITARISTS' RESPECT?! WHAT FUCKING RESPECT?! Oh, go fuck yourself, you blind bitch. I stuck around for Dark Side and I couldn't believe how fucking pathetic they managed to make Eclipse, you're out of your fucking dome.

lol. Eclipse has always been impossible to pull off live. Have you heard any of the bootlegs from the 70's? Not that great. There's so much going on in the studio version that no live version has ever even come close.

And please, cut back on the coffee. You obviously can't handle caffeine.

[MarkO]

Leaving Beirut should never be played again. It's woeful.

[frozen pilgrim]

you're out of your fucking dome.

no, actually, you were, and I wasn't.

/argument right there, randy.

you simply weren't mentally aware of what was happening.

sorry you missed out, man.

[thelastgreatman]

Listen douchebag, every single concert I go to, I'm tripping. I KNOW what a concert is supposed to fucking be, you twit. Jesus Christ, what kind of idiots are we dealing with when you try to argue that me being on a lot of acid is why I DIDN'T ENJOY THAT SHOW?! If anything it's even more condemning. Most concerts are amazing on acid no matter what--that was just a pale imitation of music I love too dearly to watch that fucking sham.

Also, go fuck yourself for trying to claim that my drug habits somehow invalidate my opinion, you dumb fucking pothead. Just because I do drugs with substance doesn't mean that you perceive things better--MY drugs actually enhance your senses, yours are the refuge of the lamebrained.

Didn't you start the Delta is a nazi thread? Were you on acid for that, because that was the dumbest fucking thread ever started.

[microlovebeat]

Listen douchebag, every single concert I go to, I'm tripping. I KNOW what a concert is supposed to fucking be, you twit. Jesus Christ, what kind of idiots are we dealing with when you try to argue that me being on a lot of acid is why I DIDN'T ENJOY THAT SHOW?! If anything it's even more condemning. Most concerts are amazing on acid no matter what--that was just a pale imitation of music I love too dearly to watch that fucking sham.

Also, go fuck yourself for trying to claim that my drug habits somehow invalidate my opinion, you dumb fucking pothead. Just because I do drugs with substance doesn't mean that you perceive things better--MY drugs actually enhance your senses, yours are the refuge of the lamebrained.

Didn't you start the Delta is a nazi thread? Were you on acid for that, because that was the dumbest fucking thread ever started.


two complete fucking idiots going at it. what kills me about you randy is that you argue on here like it's ever going to actually change someone's opinion. frozenpilgrim actually spends precious time on here out of his short life to try and make a convincing argument about the downside of anti-pyshcotic medication. that's sad.

[frozen pilgrim]

oh god. the "delta is a nazi" thing was supposed to be IRONIC.
you know, being all straight faced and going douchily apeshit over nothing? I was using delta's primary argument strategy (being irrefutably ludicrous) to put him in a position he couldn't really argue out of.
and who got banned?


I'm not suggesting that you're not aware when you're on drugs.

I said that your EXPECTATIONS didn't match your EXPERIENCE.
and that the drugs you were on likely contributed to, and exacerbated that incongruency.

and don't you dare talk to me about what drugs do and don't open your mind, you crackhead.

good lord.

think I don't know what going to a concert on lsd is like?

I TRY to be respectful, man. but you make it really hard. I honestly think you lost your mind at this coachella. you came back on this board a different, MORE aggressive, LESS rational person. you've always been abrasive, but now you just don't make any fucking sense.

[Blinken]

I think you may have built it up too much in your own mind, and there was no way it could ever live up to it. Maybe if you had gone in with no expectations then it would have been different.

[microlovebeat]

I think you may have built it up too much in your own mind, and there was no way it could ever live up to it. Maybe if you had gone in with no expectations then it would have been different.

maybe if it had been david gilmour, you mean.

[JSam67]

What I don't understand is how anyone who enjoys music, especially Pink Floyd music, could have heard that show and not been completely disappointed. Watching those vids on the last page has only reaffirmed what my ears told me at Coachella. Drugs or no drugs, frozen pilgrim, Waters and his clown band sounded terrible. Sure, the spectacle was cool, but geez, just listen to how bad the man sounds.

[thelastgreatman]

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not remotely as aggressive--I just happened to actually pay attention to the show while the rest of you sat around gaping at the smoke and horseshit. And you weren't being ironic, you were being a dumb fuck and insulting as all shit to people who actually felt the effects of genocide. Just stick your stupid fucking opinions and your pretty little pink wig avatar (SOOOOO WITTY--you put House in a wig! LOLZ) up your pathetically-proud-of-your-weed ass.

[frozen pilgrim]

two complete fucking idiots going at it. what kills me about you randy is that you argue on here like it's ever going to actually change someone's opinion. frozenpilgrim actually spends precious time on here out of his short life to try and make a convincing arguments about the downside of anti-pyshcotic medication. that's sad.

hey micro-
I'll keep saying it.
nobody likes you.
randy's not an idiot.
I don't think so, anyways.
I'm arguing with him about roger waters, not about you, so say something related or GTFO.
and dude- have you really just been searching back through the forum to try and find shit to flame me over?
first the thing about pink floyd's synthesizers, and now this crap?
tell me I'm wasting my time on this board, look who's fucking talking, you god damn shit-digger. YES anti-psychotic medication can be bad for you. if you think otherwise, you're retarted. even the god damn labels on the god damn bottles say they're fucking bad for you. they're BRAIN PILLS, not fucking vitamin C. seriously. do you really want to keep hijacking threads about stuff I said a long time ago that you didn't appreciate or agree with? cause I'll prove you wrong every time, bitch. but frankly I think this is a waste of everyone's time.

[summerkid]

Look, I understand you guys getting caught up in the visuals, the surround sound, and hearing Pink Floyd songs live and I'm sure being at Coachella all added to that. The thing is musically the show is lacking: a lot of the drum parts are overplayed, the guitarist can't match Gilmour (no fault of his really), they can't sing Gilmour's parts, and they use a lot of gimmicks to cover it up such as backing tracks (i find it hard to believe he used these on every stop on his tour for the past 3 years other than Coachella). I'm glad you guys had a good time, but I don't see why I should be insulted personally because I disagree with you.

[thelastgreatman]

Waters did a perfectly fine job without Gilmour in Berlin. He doesn't need Gilmour, he just needs people who DON'T SUCK SHIT. That's all. That's not that hard.

[frozen pilgrim]

maybe if it had been david gilmour, you mean.
again, you post something that isn't actually congruent with the quotation selected.

how old are you, twelve?

[microlovebeat]

get off ma nutz son

[frozen pilgrim]

Look, I understand you guys getting caught up in the visuals, the surround sound, and hearing Pink Floyd songs live and I'm sure being at Coachella all added to that. The thing is musically the show is lacking a lot of the drum parts are overplayed, the guitarist can't match Gilmour (no fault of his really), they can't sing Gilmour's parts, and they use a lot of gimmicks to cover it up such as backing tracks (i find it hard to believe he used these on every stop on his tour for the past 3 years other than Coachella). I'm glad you guys had a good time, but I don't see why I should be insulted personally because I disagree with you.

you've got a totally valid argument/opinion.
you didn't dig, you didn't dig.
you're not calling it a pile of horseshit or claiming it was lip-synced to a bad recording.
I agree that the drummer should have exercised more restraint, and that the guitarist was not as good as gilmour.

I still loved the show. so we just have a difference of opinion or perception. that's all I was trying to explain to randy. that maybe his difference in perception and perspective contributed to his lack of enjoyment.
just as it surely contributed positively to whatever he ran off to see

edit:
I also don't think this show was lip synced- the reason I say that is that the two sets of video screens (behind the stage and beside) were on different time delays to allow for sound traveling slower than light, and if the show were being lip synced, they would delay the video to match the track. this was not the case. also, his vocals on wish you were here bordered on speak-singing sometimes. I don't think he would have pre-recorded it that was

[thestripe]

Waters did a perfectly fine job without Gilmour in Berlin. He doesn't need Gilmour, he just needs people who DON'T SUCK SHIT. That's all. That's not that hard.

Waters was fucking great. I don't know what I was expecting, but whatever it was he exceeded it. I was a bit disappointed by the guitarist, and it was kind of weird seeing some dude playing Gilmor's riffs. Whenever the guitarist would sing or go into a solo I would just concentrate on the amazing visuals and the actual song and not the dude. So yeah, I guess I was pretty blown away by the production but who wasn't? Did anyone notice that the guitar players name was David Gilmster or some shit? I laughed my ass off when he introduced him.

[frozen pilgrim]

I totally forgot about the guitar player's name until now- it was uncanny and funny at the time, don't now how I forgot about that. good thing he only introduced him at the end, a bunch of people really far back mighta been like "yeeeah floyd reunion!"

[BrettShipes]

I was sober for his first set and liked it.

I smoked a little bit for Dsotm and still liked it.

Sounded fine to me. Of course I wasn't on acid.

[sonnyboy11]

Snowy White also played a fair amount of guitar and has worked with Waters for a long time. He appears prominently on the The Wall Live In Berlin as well. The musicians Waters had with him at Coachella were all excellent. I was listening not just watching. And I'm quite capable of forming a rounded opinion about a show, even one down on such a grand scale

[sikiboy]

And I'm quite capable of forming a rounded opinion about a show, even one down on such a grand scale

Now that's confidence, eggggcellent man!....

Loved the show, but I still prefer Gilmour over Waters... Lol!...

[whynotsmile99]

the dude looked like he walked out of Motley Cru's opening band, but I thought the guitarist was pretty damn great. honestly, i'm just envious of anyone who can play more than "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"

god i hated guitar practice

[CalmerThanYou]

Waters did a perfectly fine job without Gilmour in Berlin. He doesn't need Gilmour, he just needs people who DON'T SUCK SHIT. That's all. That's not that hard.

you're a suckshit.

[whynotsmile99]

oh and his opening set was seriously one of the saddest musical performances I've seen. The Wall was never my favorite and I sorta forgot just how sad it all is.

but references to the holocaust, wars throughout history, george w Bush and all those clips of people aimlessly walking around what seemed to be an abandoned mental asylum. heavy stuff. i was rather happy when DSOTM started and got all cosmos on us.

[shaggyduck]

you're a suckshit.

LOL. +1

[Geno_g]

you're a suckshit.

haha, I cant stop laughing.

[betao]

you're a suckshit.

.... a suckshit?...

even though my first college year just ended, I continue to learn...

[Cancersticks1]

I have opinions!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cancersticks1/rateyourbq.jpg?t=1210259981

[wolverine]

Also, go fuck yourself for trying to claim that my drug habits somehow invalidate my opinion, you dumb fucking pothead. Just because I do drugs with substance doesn't mean that you perceive things better--MY drugs actually enhance your senses, yours are the refuge of the lamebrained.


People, don't take whatever combination this guy has taken.

[wolverine]

What I don't understand is how anyone who enjoys music, especially Pink Floyd music, could have heard that show and not been completely disappointed. Watching those vids on the last page has only reaffirmed what my ears told me at Coachella. Drugs or no drugs, frozen pilgrim, Waters and his clown band sounded terrible. Sure, the spectacle was cool, but geez, just listen to how bad the man sounds.


Care to tell us again about the "messed up bass line" in ABITW that caused you to leave?(note that you never pointed it out in the video). Care to make up more shit?

[wolverine]

Waters did a perfectly fine job without Gilmour in Berlin. He doesn't need Gilmour, he just needs people who DON'T SUCK SHIT. That's all. That's not that hard.


lol. Berlin was crap compared to this. Talk about butchered parts. Anyone who thinks Berlin was superior has suffered some surt of brain trauma. By the way, you do realize that Waters wrote 90% of the music for the Coachella setlist, right?

[wolverine]

Snowy White also played a fair amount of guitar and has worked with Waters for a long time. He appears prominently on the The Wall Live In Berlin as well. The musicians Waters had with him at Coachella were all excellent. I was listening not just watching. And I'm quite capable of forming a rounded opinion about a show, even one down on such a grand scale


Snowy has been with Pink Floyd since Animals. Excellent performance.

Cool time lapse of the pig art for Coachella:


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[wolverine]

Waters was incredible, what a mind blowing show.

Prince on saturday was full of energy, Waters on sunday was a complete mindfuck.

Yup.

[wolverine]

More new vids. Love this one from way back:

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Absolutely sick video of Shine On:

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[CalmerThanYou]

More new vids. Love this one from way back:

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The narrator in this one needs to fucking die.

[shaggyduck]

No kidding. Wtf is good about that video?

[Trick Loves The Kids]

no video I've seen even begins to do justice to what was going on during 'sheep'

[wolverine]

One of the few plane shots.

[MarkO]

no video I've seen even begins to do justice to what was going on during 'sheep'

Here are my two. The 2nd one is better imo.

VGIWMw4ir5o

mNslNlXfT6o

[CalmerThanYou]

Anyone have that KILLER vid that shows the PIG, then shows the plane flying overheard, goes back to the stage with fireballs, then back to the pig?

haha, thanks!

[wolverine]

This one....maybe

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[shaggyduck]

Yea, that vid is fucking spectacular.

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

I think one has to go to every Coachella to make the best ever performance comment.

Where is Humanoid and Algunz?

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

Prince was better. I just don't give a shit about stuff like planes and pigs and whatever. I ran from Modeselector to see a little than ran back for all of SMD>Chromeo>Justice and am VERY glad that I did.

Prince was the best entertainer of the weekend.

Portishead was the best performance of the weekend.

Roger Waters was the best show of the weekend.

enough said....end thread....

[Cancersticks1]

Prince was the best entertainer of the weekend.

Portishead was the best performance of the weekend.

Roger Waters was the best show of the weekend.

enough said....end thread....

I agree with this 100%

[wolverine]

Discovery is one of my favorite albums of all time, I'd been waiting 5 years to see Daft Punk live, I bought Coachella tickets as soon as they were announced, and their show broke my brain in two pieces and I still don't think it's anywhere near what the fuck Waters did.


Yup.

[wolverine]

I fucking cried when they played WYWH...

The best concert I've ever been. I was so crazy and fortunate to be in front row, enjoying everything. Bad thing my camera run out of battery, but oh dear, what an amazing performance!


Dude I absolutely hate it when my camera runs out of batteries. Not cool.

[matsuolost]

Yup.

seriously daft punk had the element of surprise
and the best vibe in any show ever
cant be compared

[Lurker_in_a_tree]

People, don't take whatever combination this guy has taken.

I don't know about anyone else, but in the past I have had heavy acid trips where all audio I was hearing sounded warbled. It doesn't happen every time but it does happen.

[wolverine]

seriously daft punk had the element of surprise
and the best vibe in any show ever
cant be compared

I don't think you read that post right. :)

Waters took the entire festival and turned it on it's head.

[microlovebeat]

Waters took the entire festival and turned it on it's head.

no he didn't

[frozen pilgrim]

go away, micro.
nobody likes you.
in fact, I'm one of the few people left who hasn't blocked you- because I don't block ANYBODY.
but srsly.
you go troll youtube comments and leave the forum to the people with a (minimum) tertiary grasp of music.

[wolverine]

no he didn't

Go back and read this thread from page 1. :)

[microlovebeat]

go away, micro.
nobody likes you.
in fact, I'm one of the few people left who hasn't blocked you- because I don't block ANYBODY.
but srsly.
you go troll youtube comments and leave the forum to the people with a (minimum) tertiary grasp of music.


this is what kills me about people like you. you conclude that just because i don't like roger waters or kraftwerk, that i'm somehow an idiot when it comes to music, and that i don't have any taste in music whatsoever. that's probably the stupidest statement any music fan could ever make.