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schoolofruckus
01-19-2007, 11:28 AM
Yay, first post over here. I'm not going to write any kind of introduction or anything, so people who don't harken back to the ezboard days are fucked. Big fucking deal. Can I say fuck on the air? I feel like Howard Stern in the dawn of the Sirius era.

However, I can't say the P word. Feels a tad similar to "marijuana illegal, but cigarettes cool", but we'll go with it. The great ones adjust, as they say.

Here's my final recap of 2006:

Top 10:

The Fountain
Children of Men
The Departed
Babel
L' Enfant
Brick
Half Nelson
Manderlay
V for Vendetta
Inland Empire


Honorable Mentions:
Pan's Labyrinth, Lady in the Water, This Film Is Not Yet Rated, Bubble, Miami Vice, The Proposition, Little Miss Sunshine

Great Films I Need To See Again Because They Were Late Shows And I Missed Bits and Pieces Here And There:
United 93, The Lives of Others

Movies I Wanted To See and Will Catch Up With Soon:
Volver, Shortbus, Tideland, Perfume: Story of a Murderer, Factotum, The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, Marie Antoinette, An Inconveniant Truth (so help me God)

Worst of the Year (I skip most movies that look shitty to me, but these are the ones I saw that I hated):
Apocalypto
16 Blocks
Letters From Iwo Jima
Inside Man
The Science of Sleep

Oscar-beggars I Have No Interest In:
Dreamgirls
The Queen
The Last King of Scotland
Flags of Our Fathers

tessalasset
01-19-2007, 11:31 AM
i like this gabe post. it did not take much attention to get through it and i like that. :)

schoolofruckus
01-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Tessa, you're a lazy bastard, but I love you.

tessalasset
01-19-2007, 11:35 AM
and i love your mom.

bug on your lip
01-19-2007, 11:42 AM
http://re3.mm-a7.yimg.com/image/3966473407.jpg

bmack86
01-19-2007, 11:51 AM
Gabe, did you see the Prestige? If so, what'd you think?

chairmenmeow47
01-19-2007, 12:13 PM
yay, my favourite thread is back! i'm making my list based on this list (http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/moviesofyear.mv?moviesof2006+ByTGross) of movies, so i'm sorry if they didn't really come out in 2006, i'm just going off this. and these are in no particular order. my top 10 movies list depresses me, cause 2006 just wasn't a great year for movies. there's a lot i missed too :(

favourites of 2006

* running with scissors
* volver
* children of men
* a prarie home companion
* thank you for smoking
* blood diamond
* little miss sunshine
* v for vendetta
* the departed (but i didn't like it as much as the critics, christ, it's good, but it's no goodfellas.
* borat


movies i wanted to see but didn't

* the good german
* the fountain
* pans labrynth (hopefully this weekend though!)
* jesus camp
* the us versus john lennon (did it even come to az?)
* shortbus
* the last king of scotland
* notes on a scandal
* the science of sleep (i'm sad about missing this one)
* babel
* the queen
* flags of our fathers (i just like war movies, i don't expect much)
* the illusionist
* the devil wears prada
* the da vinci code
* the prestige


movies i saw and hated

* a scanner darkly
* the black dahlia
* for your consideration (didn't really hate it, but i was really disappointed)
* stick it. i had the idea for this movie in 2004 (and i have the LJ entry to prove it), so i expected it to be a campy movie like bring it on, but it wasn't even funny, just lame.
* the good shepard


movies i had no interest in seeing

* annapolis
* the last kiss
* idlewild
* school for scoundrels
* ultra violet
* an inconvenient truth (it's not that i don't believe in global warming, i just can't stand al gore)
* united 93
* world trade center
* stranger than fiction
* hostel
* deja vu
* miami vice
* nacho libre
* click
* the break-up

amyzzz
01-19-2007, 12:16 PM
The Illusionist is very, very good, and it's available to rent now too.

chairmenmeow47
01-19-2007, 12:22 PM
The Illusionist is very, very good, and it's available to rent now too.

a co-worker lent it to me yesterday, so this weekend, it's on!!!

schoolofruckus
01-19-2007, 12:24 PM
I did see "The Prestige". I thought the ending completely fucked it up. Until the reveal at the end, it was a pretty good film about two virtuosos going head-to-head that played it for both excitement (the fun of watching them duel) and tragedy (the price of ruthless determination). The final twist felt like an extremely lazy way to end it, and it made both of their characters feel like hacks rather than masters. I will concede that there was some thematic benefit to it...


****PRESTIGE SPOILERS - SKIP IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT****









...in terms of showing how competition and cheating can deteriorate one's abilities, lead to demise, etc.





****END SPOILERS****


....but it still left me feeling like "fuck this movie". It was one twist too much. There were also smaller problems I had with it, like Scarlett Johansson's performance; anyone who knows me knows that it's a big deal for me to slam her work, but God bless her, she needs to stick to contemporary films.

So, yeah - "The Prestige" counts as, in my opinion, Christopher Nolan's first strike. He's been either brilliant ("Memento") or very, very good ("Batman Begins", "Following", "Insomnia") every time out up to this point; an ambitious film that falls short is not too offensive.

chairmenmeow47
01-19-2007, 12:44 PM
i'd also like to add "the root of all evil?". not sure if it counts as a real movie, i know it was a two part special on the BBC called "the god delusion" and "the virus of faith", but i really enjoyed this. dawkins is a little extreme for me (i'm agnostic, not athiest), but it raised a lot of good points and made me laugh. i guess he has to be extreme to counter the extremists on the other side.

KungFuJoe
01-19-2007, 01:04 PM
I thought this was a pretty good year for film. Much better than last year anyhow, IMO.

I'll stick with my top five:

Children of Men
Pan's Labyrinth
Babel
The Departed
Volver

Honarables: The Fountain, Science of Sleep, Little Miss Sunshine, Running w/ Scissors, V for Vendetta, Casino Royale, A Scanner Darkly, Clerks 2, Curse of the Golden Flower, Takeshi's, The Duelist, Jet Li's Fearless, ...

Guilty Pleasure of the Year Award: CRANK

schoolofruckus
01-19-2007, 01:56 PM
I would agree that this was a terrific year for movies. The top 2 films on my list will go down as two of the best films in history, and so many of the others were excellent as well.

Jenniehoo
01-19-2007, 02:03 PM
I still want to see The Break Up.

atom heart
01-19-2007, 02:09 PM
Would Children of Men rank up there with Fahrenheit 451? Yay, nay?

I thought it had the feel of a great dystopian classic.

amyzzz
01-19-2007, 02:11 PM
I'm gonna have to say I'm incredibly grateful to Gabe for promoting/recommending/whatever-ing The Fountain because that's the best movie I've seen in a long, long time. I'm going to see it for the 2nd time tonight. Yay!

schoolofruckus
01-19-2007, 04:51 PM
*dusts shoulders off*

I do what I can. I'm glad you took my recommendation!

KungFuJoe
01-19-2007, 05:37 PM
I'm going to have to watch The Fountain again. I liked it, but I didn't LOVE it. Perhaps a second viewing is in order. I think I'd still ***fer Requiem for a Dream though.

SometimesNJ
01-19-2007, 06:11 PM
was the fountain really that good? i didn't hear anything about it..and i assumed it wasn't gonna be that great. i'll definitely have to check it out now.

amyzzz
01-20-2007, 09:54 AM
SometimesNJ, it's AMAZING if you "get" it. A lot of people don't get it and think it's too weird.

The entire movie and score are dedicated to a man's grief over his wife in this incredible metaphysical, sci-fi kind of way. They use a new type of cinematography to film the stars/outerspace parts which is simply stunning. And the musical score is so wonderful and heartbreaking that it makes me weep everytime I hear it.

The Fountain touched me deeply on so many levels. I saw it again last night, and I was sobbing uncontrollably at the end. I don't want to give away too much here if you haven't seen it yet, but we can discuss it with proper *spoilers* later if you want. There are many interp-r-e-tations you can have about it, and that also makes this a great film to discuss.

mountmccabe
01-20-2007, 09:32 PM
Oh wow. I just watched the "Love Conquers All" version of Brazil.

I hadn't seen any version of the film in some time which was probably best for attempting to ap***ciate it on its own terms but wow... it was just off-putting. Most of what really resonated about the American version - the one I'd ***viously seen - was gone. Late in the movie I realized that all but the first of the fantasy sequences were cut along with many other parts. I mean, this was cut from 132 minutes to 94.

I watched some of it with the commentary and I'm sure I'll go back to that to see it all; it was fascinating hearing some guy explain what is different and the purposes and meanings of these cuts.

At any rate the whole thing was very odd.

The best part is that sometime soon I'll watch the 142 minute Euro version which I've also not seen but which should be much, much closer to the American version.

rampaige
01-20-2007, 09:37 PM
I loved Thank You For Smoking. ***tty damn funny. Did anyone see You and Me and Everyone We Know? It's one of those movies that if you try to summarize the plot it sounds very boring, but it's so good. Also very well made.

TomAz
01-20-2007, 09:51 PM
The Queen was actually not bad. I mean it's not Best Picture stuff but Helen Mirren was ***tty good in it.

Someone mentioned Annapolis. Now that was a dreadful movie.

rampaige
01-20-2007, 10:31 PM
I love Indies ... I expected it to be so good but it was surprisingly boring for my taste.

It was a little slow moving at times. A lot of it for me was just the way the movie looked...every scene was like a work of art.

Jenniehoo
01-20-2007, 11:30 PM
So, I just made Gabe rent and watch "The Break Up".

It will be interesting to see what Gabe says about this movie - just because some nights I'll look over and say, "I really loved that movie, baby," and he'll look back and say, "I liked that movie too!" Then I'll come on this message board the next day to find him trashing the movie - which is the penalty for dating a professional movie critic. And because he's smarter than I am with movies.

However - personally - I really liked this stupid movie. Not so much for the hysterics in the middle where they try to "get one another" and trump the insanity of eachothers comebacks, but more in the sense that I LIKE what it stood for. I think that everyone, if they've dated enough before they either quit or were married, have been in relationships with people that they loved, but couldn't make it work for a variety of reasons, and I feel that this movie re***sents that fairly. It's silly in places and not re***sentative of a real relationship in others, but overall, I felt that it encompassed what it is to love someone and not make it able to work. Which, in most adult relationships, is what ends up happening...in a less hysterical manner.


SPOILERS!


They don't get together in the end - and I really liked and respected that. It is, after all, called "The Break Up"...not the "Work it out in time." You can love and respect a great number of people in your life - and the biggest misconception of young girls, magazines, and the movies - is that you know when you meet the one person for you. This movie doesn't ***tend that you can't love other people outside of that - and those people can't force you to grow and learn in ways that you otherwise wouldn't be challenged. I like that. I like the non-myopic point of view when it comes to love and its outcome; the ugliness that can come forth; and the maturity it demands to admit you're better than something that eludes you - just because it manages to ELUDE you. That's hard to do.

I hate the female, girly view I have to take with this movie, but I felt that it was relatable in the sense that living in our age, and loving many different people before we settle down, choices are rarely easy and never clear cut. You have to learn to ask yourself what makes you happiest and figure out what that means, because advice or popular culture makes you feel that life follows a set of rules to love that life rarely offers you - or that's seldom right.

Basically, it was a funny, dramatic, heartfelt movie that was marketed as a comedy - and that was ultimately its demise...because such simple marketing is bound to disappoint rather than fulfill. And Hollywood does that a lot with movies they can't pigeonhole and it's a shame. Relatability and real life story lines just aren't that easy to depict or recreate. Marketing should stop trying to sell to the lowest common denominator.

Overall - not the best movie I've seen - but not as bad as it has been panned. It's a fair (although "zany") portrayal of how your relationship with others can make you better for your next time around when you know you're better to move on. From a personal, relatable level - I liked it a lot. And, for the sake of validating my uninformed response - GABE SAID HE DID TOO.

Jenniehoo
01-20-2007, 11:39 PM
Also, I loved "You and Me and Everyone We Know" - I think it was my favorite movie I watched last year. There was something beautiful and simple about its earnestness. They kind of exploited innocence as beauty - but it worked so perfectly that it was earnest and real. I thought it was a real masterpiece and loved the hell out of it. However, I know d ick about movies. I like Drop Dead Fred for Chrissakes :)

york707
01-20-2007, 11:55 PM
I saw the queen and was bored shitless. Really - was there a point to it?

The Break up - I agree with Ms. Hoo. I thought the writing was very realistic. I, for one, know I have said "why would I WANT to do the dishes?" And ***tty much all of my friends have had an argument where they have said some variation of that. So, in thatsense, the writing was realistic for the way relationships actually happen.

And the Old97s were in it.

summerkid
01-21-2007, 12:15 AM
1. Children of Men
2. Pan's
3. The Departed
4. V for Vendetta
5. Casino Royale
6. Borat
7. The ***stige
8. Curse of the Golden Flower
9. Little Miss Sunshine
10. Thank You for Smoking

Movie that would probably make my list i haven't seen yet: Babel
10.

tessalasset
01-21-2007, 12:22 AM
I like Drop Dead Fred for ChrissakesI JUST FINISHED WATCHING THAT IN THE LIVING ROOM!!! DID YOU WATCH IT TOO?!?!?! that is seriously one of those movies that i loved as a little kid, and grew up, and still love it. it's still not beneath me. and i think fred is kinda hot when he doesnt look like an alien.

summerkid
01-21-2007, 12:23 AM
saw very few '06 films in theaters:
Superman Returns (like it a lot)


oh man I hate this movie, and the more I think about it the more I hate it. Some of it has to do with me being a comic book reader as a kid and always having such disdain towards Superman because a. he was too powerful b. a boy scout/unrelatable (unlike batman) and really the movie showed every single reason why I dislike the character so much. Plus the script had more plot holes than California highways have pot holes. I mean seriously if you are going to make something his weakness than make it his fricken weakness. There is no way, NO WAY superman could have survived that. He lifts a land mass of kryptonite? It was down right laughable. The whole time i'm thinking HOW? How is he doing that? Not too mention the movie didn't really do anything for me and seemed like i was watching the old movies at times and Brandon Routh just seemed like he was imitating Christopher Reeves and didnt make the role his own unlike Bale who made the Batman role his own.

Jenniehoo
01-21-2007, 12:37 AM
Wine. Yikes.

amyzzz
01-21-2007, 06:29 AM
which is the penalty for dating a professional movie critic

I was guessing that's what he did, but I didn't know for sure. Finally.

rampaige
01-21-2007, 06:40 AM
That was beautiful Jenniehoo. I feel similarly about "religion". I was raised Southern Baptist, but there just seemed to be so much hate and op***ssion in it, i.e. drinking will send you to hell, ***marital sex will send you to hell, having friends who are non believers will send you to hell (maybe this was just from being in youth group as a teenager.) I thought if anything, wouldn't "god" want us to enjoy the things that make life beautiful? Obviously I'm not saying getting wasted and picking up a one night stand at the local dive is considered beautiful, but my particular church focused so much on the "rules" that it got in the way of what I felt should've been the focus: Life is beautiful and hard and rewarding and frustrating, and we're all in this together. I guess I consider myself agnostic as well, in that I don't believe in a traditional god, but life is too beautiful and fragile and mysterious for it to just "be".

Sorry for that random tangent everyone. I'm really curious to see The Fountain now.

schoolofruckus
01-21-2007, 08:16 AM
Also, about The Fountain. I don't think I ever officially chimed in on this movie - at the time there was too much skeptic "figureitalloutism" going on - and I felt I might not be sharp enough to take part.

Honey, you're so crazy. You're extremely smart when it comes to movies, and you "get" The Fountain as much as anyone else I've ever heard discuss it. Your opinions are always based on a deep understanding of whatever movie you're watching, and trust me, you are more than capable of holding your own in discourses with your so-called "professional film critic" boyfriend. :)

For the record, I have never gotten paid to review a film, but for fuck's sake, somebody should pay me!

I also liked "The Break Up" for the same reasons Jennie did. It's a film of enormous - and surprising - integrity and conviction, one that does the dirty work that so many other films won't do. Like so many others, it's a movie about two people who are in a relationship, but shouldn't be; one of them decides to end it, and the movie traces them as their once-blissful union crumbles. The key, as Jennie pointed out, is that the movie doesn't invent some phony resolution to the problems that obviously run miles-deep between them. Had it ended differently - and I said this to her as we were watching it - I would have had no choice but to hate it. But this film dares to make the right choice, and it's immensely satisfying as a result.

Another reason I liked it is that Vince Vaughn is playing a different shade of his patented character. The loveable smoothie from "Swingers", the aggressively inept mobster from "Made", the stuck-in-college family man in "Old School", and the shameless p-hound in "The Wedding Crashers" are all variations on the same spectacularly rude and immature persona - which is apparently very close to Vaughn's actual personality - and in this film, they finally all get their comeuppance. This guy, a hysterically funny, unabashed prick who always dares to dream big, has met with various levels of success over the years, and now he's finally settled down with a great girl. They have a great condo, a fun lifestyle that always finds them with friends around...but there's malaise there. Vaughn's Gary, a tour guide who aspires to run the most successful city tour outfit in Chicago, has entered the phase where he stops sweet-talking and just wants a bit of the freedom that he feels entitled to as a man; meanwhile, his girlfriend Brooke - a smart, supportive woman who has no qualms about doing the heavy lifting while her man chases his dream - has found that such selflessness yields diminishing returns. She starts to realize that all the potential she once found in this guy was, essentially, smoke and mirrors; that the vaguely hostile and arrogant tendencies she views as defense mechanisms may never come down. Fights compound each other until she makes a desperate move, pulling the plug on their relationship and launching a power struggle for a condo - and a lifestyle - that neither of them want to give up.

As I was saying earlier, it's fascinating for me, as a longtime fan of Vaughn's schtick, to see his character developed in this direction - to see the true penalties that can accompany the kind of bluster and irresponsibility that makes his characters tick. I also found the movie interesting from the standpoint of someone who has never gone through a nasty break-up like this; I felt like it did a great job of showing the power of the insults that people who love each other can whip out in the heat of an argument, as well as the narcissism at work when such conflicts involve people outside the relationship (such as mutual friends, or targets of calculated jealousy). It's a film that will not make you laugh as much as you may have expected or desired, but it'll absolutely make you consider things that almost no Hollywood films would even dream of addressing.

atom heart
01-21-2007, 04:59 PM
Oh wow. I just watched the "Love Conquers All" version of Brazil.


I hated that so much. The first time I saw Brazil i missed the ending, so I picked up a copy of Brazil that was sitting around at a movie theatre. It was that version and when I watched it I felt like punching someone it was so bad. It was like watching someone's youtube parody remix of the movie.

york707
01-21-2007, 05:29 PM
Well said Gabe, and that's from somone who HAS gone through a break up (or two) like that.

Paige's post makes me wish I had seen Jennie's.

mountmccabe
01-21-2007, 05:29 PM
Yeah, based on the American version Brazil is top 10 of all time for me. If I had to count the "Love Conquers All" edit... man.

corbo
01-21-2007, 05:36 PM
here are my top 10 of 06

1. Pan's
2. Departed
3. Children of Men
4. babel
5. the fountain
6. scanner darkly
7. superman
8. mi3
9. scoop
10. taladega

corbo
01-21-2007, 05:39 PM
schoolio ...do you REALLY believe that the fountain was better than The Departed and Children of Men. It was a good movie ..but c'mon
best of 06?
gimmee a break. lol

delibot3029
01-21-2007, 06:57 PM
I second The Fountain being the best of 2006 (without contest). It required the viewer to put forth themselves rather than be able to deduce the story by it being spoonfed to them. It is easily one of the decade's best as well.

The Departed was EASILY Scorsese's worse film of the decade, it was good and nothing more, but Children of Men was quite something.

Children of Men, Idiocracy, Borat, Half-Nelson, The Prestige and Superman Returns would also be worth mentioning.

On a semi-related note, Aronofsky is going to make a thriller about two rival ballet dancers. That dude's ambitious and way talented.

KungFuJoe
01-21-2007, 09:38 PM
[QUOTE=delibot3029;5793]
The Departed was EASILY Scorsese's worse film of the decade, it was good and nothing more, but Children of Men was quite something.
QUOTE]


Seriously?? The Departed was probably Scorsese's best film he's directed in the past decade. I'm not saying it's his best by any means, but it's much better than The Aviator & Gangs of New York.

corbo
01-21-2007, 09:45 PM
delibot dont know what the F hes talking about.
scorseses worst? thats the stupidest shyyte ive heard this year.

chairmenmeow47
01-22-2007, 07:43 AM
saw pan's yesterday and i really loved it! i just want to know why people think it's ok to bring their babies to the movies, WTF?!?! the little girl was great though, i normally hate child actors, but she was very good. i was impressed with mercedes too.

i also hate the whole "let's release movies in LA in december so they're technically 2006 movies" cause i saw both pan's and children of men this year and will always think of them as 2007 movies.

and i liked the aviator more than the departed. i like the way scorsese portrays the past i guess. i liked the departed, but it wasn't amazing and i'll be kinda annoyed if this is his "oscar year", just becaues he hasn't gotten one before. he should have won for goodfellas. also, nicholson wasn't playing anything new, it was the same role he plays in most of his movies. i was impressed with leo though.

schoolofruckus
01-22-2007, 10:22 AM
"The Fountain" was absolutely the best movie I saw last year, and one of the best ever - a visionary film that, like Izzi's character as eulogized in the movie by Ellen Burstyn, achieved a measure of grace equaled by few others. Thematically, narratively, visually, aurally - it was a masterpiece in every sense. It was the exact kind of experience that I dream of having every time I set foot in a movie theater. And my love for it is definitely compounded by the fact that I waited six years to see it, I went in expecting it to floor me, and I left saying to myself, "He did it. He fucking did it".

That's not to take away from any of the other films of last year. "Children of Men" was one of the most stunningly realized films I've ever seen, a new pinacle in the art of constructing chaos and despair that also never forgot to keep a human heart beating. "The Departed" was a brilliantly clenched fist, and easily my favorite Scorsese since "GoodFellas", and I say that as a big fan of "Casino", "Bringing Out the Dead", and "Gangs of New York". "Babel" was a film so immense, so stunning in its scope that it took two viewings for me to get it. "L' Enfant" was a jaw-dropping triumph of naturalism and human insight that fit perfectly next to the Cassavetes fetish I developed over the course of the year.

But in the end, one movie will always define 2006 for me, and that movie will always be "The Fountain".

PotVsKtl
01-22-2007, 10:31 AM
Idiocracy was not funny. Pan's Labyrinth was poorly realized. Babel was crap. You're all ugly.

Yablonowitz
01-22-2007, 11:58 AM
Let's hear pot's top 5.

Yablonowitz
01-22-2007, 12:07 PM
That's the point.

thefunkylama
01-22-2007, 12:17 PM
only one way to find out.

PotVsKtl
01-22-2007, 01:11 PM
I take that back:

1. Tideland
2. The New World
3. Sympathy for Lady Vengeance
4. Brick
5. The Proposition
6. Tristam Shandy
7. Marie Antoinette
8. V for Vendetta
9. Wild Blue Yonder
10. A Scanner Darkly

I haven't seen Children of Men or the Fountain.

Yablonowitz
01-22-2007, 02:23 PM
Brick was fucking awesome.

I want to see Tideland.

KungFuJoe
01-22-2007, 11:47 PM
I take that back:

1. Tideland
2. The New World
3. Sympathy for Lady Vengeance
4. Brick
5. The Proposition
6. Tristam Shandy
7. Marie Antoinette
8. V for Vendetta
9. Wild Blue Yonder
10. A Scanner Darkly

I haven't seen Children of Men or the Fountain.

The New World was 2005.

Sympathy For Lady Vengeance = Park's worst film

Babel was so far from crap it's not even funny.


Speaking of crap. I was forced to watch THE HITCHER today due to unfortunate circumstances. Formulaic nonsense ass you'd all expect. However it was fun to ridicule it & scream at the screen. Plus, Sophia Bush is cute. (Don't ever go pay to see this film!)

bmack86
01-22-2007, 11:53 PM
I might have to go see Marie Antoinette after the screening of Smoking Aces on thursday. Sounds like a helluva night

bmack86
01-22-2007, 11:55 PM
and, Brazil is one of my fave movies. The Criterion definitive edition is stunningly great.

Tylerdurden31
01-23-2007, 06:07 AM
I saw Notes On a Scandal on Saturday. Cate Blanchett and Judi Dench were indeed excellent. Both great actresses. Highly recommended film by me.

schoolofruckus
01-23-2007, 06:52 AM
I'm glad "Letters From Iwo Jima" got so many nominations*, but for fook's sake, they couldn't have found even one nomination anywhere for "The Fountain"? When Aronofsky picks up his lifetime achievement award 40 years from now, this year is going to look pretty paltry.

I love the fact that "Dreamgirls" - a movie that people have been talking up as an Oscar heavyweight since the summer - didn't even get a nod for Best Picture.

* - Not to be taken literally.


Also - Pot's got a really good Top 10 list. I wholly disagree with him on "Babel" being crap and "Lady Vengeance" being good - I am definitely in the "Park's worst film, FAR too simplistic" camp - but "Brick", "The Proposition", "New World" (2005 though it may be), "Vendetta", and "Scanner" are all terrific.

I will definitely be seeing "Tideland" and "Marie Antoinette" when they are released on DVD.

schoolofruckus
01-23-2007, 07:15 AM
A movie guaranteed to make Jennie and Tessa go crazy! (http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/01/once_is_the_shi.php)

I want to see it, too. It sounds really good. Hopefully a U.S. distributor will pick it up very soon and supply us with a release date.

amyzzz
01-23-2007, 07:40 AM
they couldn't have found even one nomination anywhere for "The Fountain"? When Aronofsky picks up his lifetime achievement award 40 years from now, this year is going to look pretty paltry.

I know! Not even for cinematography or score! The movie was so incredibly beautiful, and the music haunts me everywhere. I just don't see how they could completely ignore The Fountain. My husband and I both agree that Hugh Jackman should have at least gotten nominated as best actor, if not won, and OF COURSE the director should have been nominated.

I'm just disgusted with the Oscars this year. I don't think I've seen any of the nominated films yet because I thought my favorites would have been nominated (except I did see Pan's Labyrinth which got some nominations).

schoolofruckus
01-23-2007, 08:23 AM
Fuckity.

Jenniehoo
01-23-2007, 08:26 AM
Oh my God. I can't wait for Once. We're going to that the first night it plays here. Even without Glen Hansard it looks like something I would love.

I can't believe that CD is in a movie. The lead female character is the backup female singer that he toured with when he opened for Damien Rice.

Tessa, did you know about this?

PotVsKtl
01-23-2007, 09:19 AM
The New World was 2005.

Sympathy For Lady Vengeance = Park's worst film

The New World was a limited release Christmas 2005. It opened wide in 2006.

So what if it's Park's worst film? It's still better than most other 2006 releases.

The fact that Little Miss Sunshine is nominated for best picture is fucking pathetic.

KungFuJoe
01-23-2007, 09:38 AM
Sympathy for Lady Vengeance is better than most other 2006 releases. That may be so. But I don't agree that it's better than Babel by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't think it's pathetic that Little Miss Sunshine is up for Best Picture, but I do agree with you in a way. I like the film, don't get me wrong. how can you not? Unless you have no heart. But to be up for Best Picture over a film like Children of Men. c'mon! I'm actually more annoyed that Iwo Jima is up there.

I'm with School on "The Fountain". Though it's not in my top 5 of the year I still thought it was a good film that deserves some acknowledgment. Particularly in the art department. And I agree Hugh Jackman was fantastic in the film.

One more remark on The New World. It would've been a much better film if they didn't cast Colin Farrel.

mozabilly54
01-23-2007, 10:59 AM
What is Jesus Camp?

PotVsKtl
01-23-2007, 11:13 AM
Internet.

full on idle
01-23-2007, 11:19 AM
MOZABILLY54 I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ad/Jesus_Camp.jpg/200px-Jesus_Camp.jpg

Jesus Camp is a documentary about the "Kids On Fire" summer camp, located just outside Devils Lake, North Dakota and run by Becky Fischer and her ministry, Kids in Ministry International. The film focuses on three children who attended the camp in the summer of 2005--Levi, Rachael, and Victoria (Tory). The film cuts between footage of the camp and a children's prayer conference held just prior to the camp at Christ Triumphant Church, a large charismatic church in Lee's Summit, Missouri; a suburb of Kansas City.

All three children, despite their youth, are very devout charismatic Christians. Levi, who has ambitions of being a pastor, has already preached several sermons at his suburban Kansas City church. Early in the film, he is watching a cartoon that preaches that Earth is 6,000 years old. He is homeschooled, and learns physical science from a book that attempts to reconcile the creationist account with scientific principles. He preaches a sermon at the camp in which he declares that his generation is a key to Jesus's coming back. Rachael is seen approaching a woman and offering her a Christian tract and telling her that God has a special plan for her. She is disdainful of non-charismatic churches, feeling that they aren't "churches that God likes to go to." Tory frequently dances to Christian heavy metal music, and feels uncomfortable about "dancing for the flesh."

At the camp, Fischer stresses the need for children to purify themselves in order to be used by God. She strongly believes that children need to be in the forefront of turning America back to conservative Christian values.

In one scene shot at Christ Triumphant Church, Lou Engle, the chief "prophet" for Harvest International Ministries (the "apostolic network" with which both the church and Fischer's ministry are affiliated--an affiliation not advertised in the film) preaches a message urging children to join the fight to end abortion. He prays for George W. Bush to have the strength to appoint "righteous judges" who will overturn Roe v. Wade. By the end of the sermon, the children are chanting, "Righteous judges! Righteous judges!" In another, a woman brings a cutout of Bush to the front of the church, and has the children stretch their hands toward him. (Some press accounts erroneously suggested that the children were "worshipping" the president, but they were actually praying for him. This practice is a derivative of laying hands on someone, which is a very common practice in Pentecostal and charismatic churches.)

There is also a scene at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, where Levi and his family go on vacation to hear its renowned pastor, Ted Haggard. Some months after the release of the film, Haggard later became embroiled in a high-profile scandal involving homosexual prostitution and methamphetamine use.
wikipedia

mozabilly54
01-23-2007, 11:21 AM
MOZABILLY54 I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ad/Jesus_Camp.jpg/200px-Jesus_Camp.jpg

wikipedia

Thanks!!!

chairmenmeow47
01-23-2007, 11:24 AM
The Illusionist is very, very good, and it's available to rent now too.

a co-worker lent this to me and i watched it last night. i actually liked it. my roommates were shocked because i have this thing against magicians (who learns the art of deception for good, HONESTLY!??!?!).

anyways, it was entertaining, and the ending surprised me. paul giamatti was good as always. i really like him and i'm glad he's getting more roles these past few years.

Jenniehoo
01-23-2007, 11:25 AM
I want to see Jesus Camp. I hope we rent it this weekend.

downingthief
01-23-2007, 01:19 PM
Ivy, totally agree with you about Giamatti. One of the better character actors out there. Glad he is getting his due.

Finally saw "An Inconvenient Truth" over the weekend. Very well done. A must see.

Jesus Camp scares the bejezzus out of me...

PotVsKtl
01-23-2007, 02:16 PM
Giamatti's accent in The Illusionist was horrible. I was embarrassed every time he opened his mouth.

downingthief
01-23-2007, 02:21 PM
Worst movie accent of all time? Kevin Costner in "Robin Hood...Prince of Thieves." That was horrible...

Coachellian
01-23-2007, 02:22 PM
i rather watch dawn of the dead instead of jesus camp...its scary!

chairmenmeow47
01-23-2007, 02:24 PM
i don't know that accent very well, so i didn't really notice.

worst accent for me was hilary swank's attempt at an irish accent for one scene in the black dhalia. or halle berry's ever changing accent in the x-men series.

downingthief
01-23-2007, 02:34 PM
Good call. Another one was Tom Cruise doing Irish in "Far and Away".

schoolofruckus
01-23-2007, 03:33 PM
Worst movie accent of all time? Kevin Costner in "Robin Hood...Prince of Thieves." That was horrible...

That wasn't even Costner's worst accent, although he is the undisputed king of mangling dialects.

Costner's Beantown brogue in "Thirteen Days" makes his "Prince of Thieves" work look like Streep.

"THIS IS YOH GAH DAMN REPOHT CAHD!"

Jenniehoo
01-23-2007, 04:12 PM
MAAAAATTT DAAAAMONNN!!

J~$$$
01-23-2007, 04:29 PM
Ted Haggerty's acting debut in Jesus Camp was amazing!

thinnerair
01-24-2007, 05:22 PM
Giamatti's best role is still as Pig Vomit in Private Parts.

I just saw Beer League with Artie Lange and Ralph Macchio. I thought it was a very funny movie with some excellent one liners and a super accurate depiction of the guidos in New Jersey. I was also pleasantly surprised to see that Ralph Macchio wasnt THAT bad of an actor.

J~$$$
01-24-2007, 09:23 PM
fuck yes im so going to see this movie like 2 times....

-O6ZHLMTexA

dorkfish
01-24-2007, 10:58 PM
you're gabe's movie boyfriend pillow

KungFuJoe
01-24-2007, 11:48 PM
Thanks for that post J~$$$

It's nice to finally be excited about Gregg Araki's work. What a fun looking follow up to Mysterious Skin. I love Anna Faris.

downingthief
01-25-2007, 08:16 AM
Ok, I finally saw Little Miss Sunshine last night...It was good, but best picture good? Not so sure on that. The porn/cop scene was priceless, though...

schoolofruckus
01-25-2007, 03:04 PM
It's a classic Best Picture contender - not quite deserving, not as good as its supporters claim, but also definitely not as bad as its biggest haters make it out to be.

I liked "Little Miss Sunshine" a lot. I believed in what it was doing. I enjoyed it and appreciated it. I admit that I'm a little fatigued at the idea that it's going to be crowned the best movie of the year, but I think it's very good nevertheless.

PotVsKtl
01-25-2007, 03:14 PM
If by very good you mean entirely average I'm right there with you buddy. That Araki trailer makes me want to slap the living fuck out of Anna Faris until she closes her stupid oblong mouth.

KungFuJoe
01-25-2007, 04:27 PM
If by very good you mean entirely average I'm right there with you buddy. That Araki trailer makes me want to slap the living fuck out of Anna Faris until she closes her stupid oblong mouth.

Who said very good? It's funny what you say about Anna Faris, but she cracked me up in "just friends". I agree it will probably be as average as films like Half Baked & Waiting, but still should be fun.

bmack86
01-26-2007, 11:51 AM
I saw Smoking Aces and Marie Antoinette last night.

Smoking Aces let me down. It looked like it would be a fast-paced, energetic and, at times, humorous flick about hitmen. To a certain extent, this was true. Some of the movie had me laughing, and the energy built throughout a majority of the film. However, the plot was, I felt, really under-developed. Basically, let's kill this guy and watch it get fucked up. And the ending deflated the whole movie.

I liked Marie Antoinette. It made little effort to diguise itself as a period piece, and instead showed how insulated and cut-off the French aristocracy were during their fall, likening them to rich fashionista of today. I loved the cinematography, and thought that Schwartzman was great for Louis XVI. Give it a chance, it was good.

bballarl
01-26-2007, 11:55 AM
I watched Snatch last night and I love that movie. Fucking pikers.

downingthief
01-26-2007, 11:56 AM
Snatch is one of those flicks I can watch over and over again!

"Two more minutes, Turkish."

bmack86
01-26-2007, 12:05 PM
Snatch is a great film.

Ariana
01-26-2007, 07:05 PM
I would NOT recommend seeing Perfume. It looks much better than it is.

york707
01-27-2007, 08:22 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA there are Mogwai songs in Miami Vice??!?

delibot3029
01-28-2007, 02:47 AM
I know! Not even for cinematography or score! The movie was so incredibly beautiful, and the music haunts me everywhere. I just don't see how they could completely ignore The Fountain. My husband and I both agree that Hugh Jackman should have at least gotten nominated as best actor, if not won, and OF COURSE the director should have been nominated.

I'm just disgusted with the Oscars this year. I don't think I've seen any of the nominated films yet because I thought my favorites would have been nominated (except I did see Pan's Labyrinth which got some nominations).That crapfest did not even recognize they amazing visual effects of The Fountain, instead X-Men 3 got a nomination, it's called payola.

And Little Miss Sunshine getting best picture is like Christmas Vacation winning the Noble Prize.

schoolofruckus
01-29-2007, 07:27 AM
I'm not sure "Little Miss Sunshine" will take the Oscar. It doesn't have a ton of nominations, and most of the ones it does have are ones it's favored to lose. That usually doesn't bode well.

I have a couple quick reviews:

"Night Watch" - This is a Russian action/fantasy about the struggle between supernatural humans (the Others) both good (Light) and evil (Dark). The Light Others have a Night Watch patrol to make sure the Dark Others are sticking to the truce that they called back in the Middle Ages; the Dark Others also have a Day Watch to do likewise....but that's a whole other movie (no, really - "Day Watch" is the second film in this trilogy). Anyway, "Night Watch" mostly centers on Anton, a pissed-off, alcoholic Light Other with clairvoyant tendencies. He notices that two Dark Others (who are basically vampires) are after a 12 year old boy, and spends all his time trying to defend said boy from them. Meanwhile, a virgin with the Midas touch of death is inadvertently creating a vortex of disaster that threatens to crash a plane.

Believe me, I'm simplifying and probably making some of this up, as it's not a terribly coherent plot...and yet it can also be said that this movie is pretty predictable. I definitely enjoyed it - and I'm really not that much of a fantasy fan, especially when it comes to vampire movies - but the more I think about it, the more I've decided that it's a movie that ultimately shoots itself in the foot with poor storytelling. The film is a bit thin in terms of characterization, the climax/third act/resolution/whathaveyou is extremely rushed, and I'm not sure why either is the case; if you're going to make three movies to tell this story, why try to keep each picture to two hours? This one could easily have been 20-30 minutes longer, with a lot more character work as well as an extended/enhanced finale. That said, it's a cool premise, with a strong (if, again, undernourished) lead character and a head-spinning cache of visual tricks that would make Tony Scott feel like watching a sitcom; often enough, those traits are enough to keep "Night Watch" watchable.

"Smokin' Aces" is another film with style to burn and a storyline that crosses over into chaos. The plot has been accurately described as a clothesline on which to hang as many sadistic criminals as possible, and it is that: Vegas mafioso Primo Sparazza puts a $1 million bounty on the head (and heart) of magician-turned-criminal-turned-snitch Buddy "Aces" Israel (Jeremy Piven), unleashing a half-dozen teams of savage assassins to descend upon his Lake Tahoe hotel suite, while the F.B.I. strives to keep him alive until the trial and a trio of bail bondsman attempt to bring him back to jail.

If you've seen the trailers, your impression of the film is pretty close to what you're going to get: it's fast-paced, convoluted, sadistically violent, and darkly funny. What the trailers won't tell you is that this film is delivered with a bit more skill and substance than required, and for that indicator, you need only look to the director's chair. Joe Carnahan's last film, "Narc", was a brilliant, searing police procedural that you could easily pair with "Mean Streets" as a both-sides-of-the-battle double bill akin to what Eastwood tried to accomplish with his two Iwo Jima films. It was that good. "Smokin' Aces" isn't the most satisfying follow-up Carnahan could have concocted, but it's a change of pace that takes the dialogue and attitude that made "Narc" so great and puts them to use in a different kind of film. He gets strong work out of most of his cast of familiar faces - Jeremy Piven (as the guilt-ridden Israel), Ryan Reynolds (as one of the Feds), and beyond all comprehension, Alicia Keys (as one of the assassins) deliver the strongest performances - and while the ending is a disbelief suspension and then some, it still managed to feel satisfying and strangely meaningful. Carnahan will make films far better than this in his life, but this time out he's delivered an early-year surprise that rates as one of the best pure action movies in quite some time.

Jenniehoo
01-29-2007, 10:37 AM
Last night I made Gabe watch "The Ninth Gate" - which is a movie I've always loved. He didn't include it on his review slate from the weekend, so I'm going to review it instead. Because I have the time.

The Ninth Gate

The whole movie has this old, elegant quality - the scenes are shot simply and most are devoid of color - a lot of deep brown and grey. This works well, however, since the premise of the movie is one man's funded search for an authenticated book to contact Satan. A rich book collector hires a "book detective" to find the secret of the book to contact the devil - and report the details back.

Johnny Depp is the lead asshole book detective - he's rude, a mercenary, and "thoroughly unscrupulous." Needless to say, he's easy to like in this movie. He smokes Lucky Strikes and blows the smoke out of his nose. He knows all about old books and can rattle off publication dates and current owners of all antique books in the world. He knows his business and nothing seems to surprise him. He doesn't have any friends.

So, the devil gets a crush on him. The devil follows him around through his search disguised as a green-eyed, blonde chick. At first we think she's working for his client (to track Depp's progress) - but then we notice that she can fly and her eyes glow and we think, "oh, sh1t. That's fukking Satan, isn't it?" Yes. Yes it is. It's fukking Satan.

Depp eventually becomes as obsessed with contacting the devil as his client - and realizes that the correct ritual is hidden in three (rather than one) books. His client eventually catches up to him and steals all three books along the way. He attempts to perform the ritual and succeeds only in lighting himself on fire (bummer). Because the devil doesn't want his old, wrinkly balls - he/she wants Johnny Depp. So - the devil has sex with Johnny Depp in a key, evil scene that's also graphically disturbing. Then Johnny Depp walks down the red carpet straight into hell. To be the devil's bitch, we can only imagine.

Gabe told me this movie was directed by Roman Polanski. I've never seen any other movie that he directed - but I'm guessing that's why this movie is shot in such a stylized, simply elegant-type way.

KungFuJoe
01-29-2007, 05:23 PM
In reference to "Night Watch"...


The film is a bit thin in terms of characterization, the climax/third act/resolution/whathaveyou is extremely rushed, and I'm not sure why either is the case; if you're going to make three movies to tell this story, why try to keep each picture to two hours? This one could easily have been 20-30 minutes longer, with a lot more character work as well as an extended/enhanced finale.

I'm assuming you watced the American release, no??

I've only seen the Russian release of this film and from what I understand they cut out a major character out of the American release. That character is a gentleman called Ignat whom tries to woo said "Virgin" in order to help stop the imminent disaster. Is this correct? if not, I believe there are some plot points with his character that are taken out.

Also, I've heard there is a Director's cut with an additional fight scene at the climax of the film, which I have yet to see.

With that said, your review is pretty spot on. This is one of my favorite fantasy to be released over the past decade. It's shares familiar story elements with films like The Matrix, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Underworld etc. However, the visual style is much like that of "Delicattesen" and that is what I loved most about the film. On such a low budget, by our standards, the film maker managed to pull off a visually stunning spectacle the likes of which I've never seen before (at that time)

As far as your thoughts about taking more time to tell this story I have one piece of advice for you. DO NOT see DAY WATCH. Well, I guess at this point you must, but you will be thouroughly disappointed, as I was.

Being that Fox Searchlight helped fund the sequel and picked up distribution rights to it they decided to wrap up the whole story in the second film. Thus, they are planning (or were planning) to create a whole new story for the third installment, which will take place in the U.S.A. (Leave it to Americans to ruin a foreign film franchise)

"Day Watch" does has it's moments, but it's a mess of a film and the climax is one of the biggest let downs ever. You want to talk about a "rushed" film? blink and you'l miss this one.

I've heard they finally translated and released the books the story was based of off, but had not researched that yet. I, for one, would be more interested in reading the original material than watching any future installments.

All in all though, I would personally reccomend "Night Watch" to anyone that loves fantasy films or vampire movies, but would not push the sequel.

i'll be back with some reviews of mine own, which include the "should be straight to TNT" movie "D.O.A: Dead or Alive"

J~$$$
01-29-2007, 06:56 PM
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117958228.html?categoryid=28&cs=1

WOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tessalasset
01-29-2007, 09:53 PM
Idiocracy was not funny.i agree completely. it was so bad.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 07:58 AM
JENNIE AND TESSA LOOK HERE:

Once (http://oncethemovie.com/)

The damn YouTube of the trailer wouldn't load. But you can see it on this website.

chunk
02-01-2007, 09:44 AM
last november, a little before thanksgiving i think, goldenvoice and coachella founder paul tollett had an interesting meeting with a prospective agent.

agent: i have an act, but its not musical.

tollett: thats okay were looking to branch out a little this year anyways. what do you got?

agent: its a family act. it involves a mother, grandmother, father, twelve year old son, toddler son, and two twin eight year old daughters (both lesbian). the father and mother enter first stage right, both immaculately dressed. after introducing the wife, the father exits stage right momentarily to return with grandmother in wheelchair and sets her stage left. following behind the father is the rest of the family (son w/ lesbians). the rest of the family stops at the middle of the stage next to the mother. the father again momentarily exits stage right again to return with the toddler in a crib. he sets the crib stage right, symetrical with the grandmother. the mother gets the ball rolling by going down on the father while the children watch. as dad is getting his dick sucked, the son moves around behind the mother and starts to undress her. he then proceeds to fuck her. while the son and father are both inside their momwife, the two little girls also start to undress and diddle each other (remember, its okay - theyre lesbian). after a while, the father and son switch positions so that now mom is sucking off son. dad however, decides to put it in moms ass instead. the mom gags and actually throws up a little over her son. but just a little. meanwhile, the twins are in full sixty-nine mode by now. as the dad starts ramming his wife harder and harder, she starts bleeding and puking even more. the son starts puking after her. dad follows suit immediately after the son. after the dad is done, he and the rest of the family pull down their pants and start to crap and piss all over the the puke, blood, and cum all in the middle of the floor. all of this while the grandmother and toddler look on eagerly from wheelchair and crib. after the father finishes, he pulls up his pants, runs stage left to the grandmother, dumps the parapalygic grandmother onto the floor. the father then runs stage right to the toddler, dumps out toddler onto the stage. the father then rushes back to the center and starts eating out his sons asshole while the son eats out his mom, who does same to one twin who does the same to the other while also tongueing her father (even though shes gay!). all in one tight, family cirlcle. the grandmother and toddler are meanwhile army crawling towards the center at symmetrical speed. when they all get to the middle, everybody has a thunderous orgasm. then they all finish up by licking the stage clean.



tollett: my god, man. what do you call them?

agent: !THE ARISTOCRATS!

tessalasset
02-01-2007, 09:45 AM
gabe, that gave me chills and made me tear up. i can't fucking wait. AND they used my favorite swell season song for the second half of the trailer. AND its a new fleshed out version which sounds SO FUCKING AWESOME. i need to calm down. i need to calm down.

Mr.Nipples
02-01-2007, 09:49 AM
jesus camp made guys like me look bad...

tessalasset
02-01-2007, 09:55 AM
god i could watch that trailer all day long. glen is so sexy.

J~$$$
02-01-2007, 09:56 AM
didnt that premire at sundance? I heard they came out and preformed after the showing.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 09:57 AM
Nice one, chunk.....that was possibly the least-funny movie ever made.


Tessa, that trailer is awesome. I will have no choice but to join you and Jennie on opening night. And I loved the song that was used in there as well.

chunk
02-01-2007, 10:12 AM
i lost my breath in laughter during the saget scene. and pollack doing walken doing the aristocrats? just reading that sentence should make you want to watch the movie.


(edited to try to be nice today)

Mr.Nipples
02-01-2007, 10:15 AM
yeah the aristocrats pissed me off except for carlin and saget. i heard the director is making a movie adaptation of everybody poops...yes the fucking childrens book.

Mr.Nipples
02-01-2007, 10:16 AM
hahahahahahahahahaha

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482505/

chunk
02-01-2007, 10:26 AM
classic saget anecdote as told by cathy ladman (i think):

for hannukah, he bought me a pack of slim tampons. he said, "leave em out so guys will think youre tight."

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 10:42 AM
Don't bother trying to be nice, dipshit.

"The Aristocrats" was the most god-awful excuse for both a documentary and a comedy that I've ever seen. Did I really waste an hour and a half to watch all these supposedly talented comedians say "fucking" and "sucking" and "fisting" ad-nauseum? The only halfway-watchable segment is Gilbert Gottfried's telling at the post-9/11 roast, and even then, the only funny thing were his jokes about the 9/11 attacks themselves.

The "Aristocrats" joke is fucking stupid. The movie is stupider (particularly the decision to cut the hell out of almost every telling of the joke, so that not one of them plays the way the comedian intended). And anyone who thinks it's good is stupider still.

chunk
02-01-2007, 10:44 AM
you were apparently angered by the movie. i wasnt. i laughed my ass off.

i like it much better over here.

and theres no arguing comedy. either youre you or me.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 10:48 AM
Great. Have fun on Planet You Don't Know Jack Shit.

chunk
02-01-2007, 10:54 AM
are you the king of planet funny? because youre not coming across that way.

TomAz
02-01-2007, 10:55 AM
There is also no arguing stupidity.

chunk
02-01-2007, 10:58 AM
yay! cheerleaders!

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm not the king of planet anything, Chunk. I just think you're a cocksucker and I have no reservations about telling you so.

chunk
02-01-2007, 11:15 AM
cocksucker who knows funny.

(you can have the last word. i was just posting opinions in the appropriate movie thread, btw.)

Jenniehoo
02-01-2007, 11:21 AM
http://adrian.gimp.org/lava.jpg

chunk
02-01-2007, 11:23 AM
read the thread. thats for schoolboy today, poo.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 11:28 AM
Your thread-relevant participation is appreciated; your douchery is not. One can invoke scorn without the other being involved.

chunk
02-01-2007, 11:31 AM
Your thread-relevant participation is appreciated; your douchery is not. One can invoke scorn without the other being involved.

in this thread the only douchery was my attempt at the aristocrats. everything else was self defense. its all on record. i dont know what set you off today. (i edited, remember?)

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 11:39 AM
Are you arguing my right to dislike you for A) being an ass to my girlfriend in the past, and B) for insulting me with absolutely NO provocation a week or two ago when I mentioned that there was one movie thread and therefore ones dedicated individually to Pan's Labyrinth and the Oscars were not necessary? That shit's all on record too, bub.

chunk
02-01-2007, 11:43 AM
Are you arguing my right to dislike you for A) being an ass to my girlfriend in the past, and B) for insulting me with absolutely NO provocation a week or two ago when I mentioned that there was one movie thread and therefore ones dedicated individually to Pan's Labyrinth and the Oscars were not necessary? That shit's all on record too, bub.

you definitely think people know too much about you. i dont know pans whatever or anybodys opinions on any of that. sorry. i was talking to meow about syriana, however. is that what youre talking about? either way, the situations the same. im trying to cooperate with your rules and youre still being you.

mob roulette
02-01-2007, 11:48 AM
Hey Schoolio,

I actually LIKE reading your movie reviews. Do you have any thoughts on any of these for 07?

Synecdoche, New York
Mister Lonely
Control (the Ian Curits biopic)
The Darjeeling Limited
American Gangster
Reservation Road
Youth Without Youth
Funny Games
Margaret
Dedication
Tenderness

Also do you think Southland Tales will actually come out in wide release? Or will Sony push it straight to DVD to recoup possible losses?

OK go.

chunk
02-01-2007, 11:52 AM
i like reading his reviews, too. everybody does. he just hates me.

J~$$$
02-01-2007, 11:56 AM
suck it up chunky.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 11:59 AM
No. What I mean is, mozabilly kept making a new thread for every movie related topic. I said to him in one of them "there is a movie corner where you can discuss all these things". I was not being malicious about it, just pointing out that it can all be done in one place and we don't need to clutter the board with unnecessary threads. You stepped in and said this thread sucks, because it has "rules". "Go play in yours, because nobody cares". A big deal? No. Reason enough for me to not like you? Yes.

And that's on top of you trying to admonish Jennie for a story she told. This was back in the old days. Again, none of this is monumental. But it's enough to put you on the shit list.

chunk
02-01-2007, 12:03 PM
i am very bad at reviews. heres mine on little miss sunshine:

this shoud have been on the soundtrack:

so you spent every last penny you had on the car
and it still wont even barely leave your home
and you spilt evey last penny into the car
and it still wont take you very far at all
and you spilt every last penny into the car
and it still wont even barely move at all
and you spilt every last penny into the car
and it still wont even barely leave your home.

or exactly the opposite. i suck at watching, too. (and lyrics hardcore)

TomAz
02-01-2007, 12:04 PM
So I watched this movie "Mrs Brown" on the plane yesterday. and the whole time I'm watching it I'm thinking that John Brown is being played by John Cleese. I mean, I was sure of it. Then the credits roll and it's Billy Connolly and I'm like wtf.

the movie is decidedly mediocre btw.

chunk
02-01-2007, 12:05 PM
and i wont bring up that story about her if you dont.

mob roulette
02-01-2007, 12:09 PM
i'm waiting. screw the flame war already and get to flexing your industry muscle.

your opinion, i mean. let's go.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 12:12 PM
Hey Schoolio,

I actually LIKE reading your movie reviews. Do you have any thoughts on any of these for 07?

Synecdoche, New York
Mister Lonely
Control (the Ian Curits biopic)
The Darjeeling Limited
American Gangster
Reservation Road
Youth Without Youth
Funny Games
Margaret
Dedication
Tenderness

Also do you think Southland Tales will actually come out in wide release? Or will Sony push it straight to DVD to recoup possible losses?

OK go.

Welcome, mob roulette. Here are my feelings about those films:

"Control" should be terrific; Anton Corbijn has done some great photography, so hopefully that translates to a movie that's visually interesting.

"The Darjeeling Limited" sounds like it could be Wes Anderson's best film yet. I mean, obviously it'll have to be outstanding to reach that status, but I'm definitely of the opinion that Wes' work has not fallen off at all (the claims that "The Life Aquatic" was some kind of failure are mystifying, to say the least), and the India element seems to be something that's always piqued his curiosity. Let me just say that I'm thrilled he's doing this right now instead of the animated "The Fantastic Mr. Fox" movie.

"American Gangster" will probably be worth seeing. Ridley Scott's stuff is usually good, and Denzel Washington as a 70's crime lord can't possibly be less than interesting.

And I absolutely think "Southland Tales" will be out sometime this year, in theaters. I've heard forever that it would be April, but if so, it's about time we get a trailer and a confirmation.

There's no way it goes straight to DVD. It won't make nearly enough to offset the production costs. I don't remember how much Sony acquired it for - it was financed originally by Universal, I believe - but I can't imagine that putting it out on DVD first would possibly be beneficial.

You'll have to forgive me for not having heard of the others on your list - please educate us all!

mob roulette
02-01-2007, 12:32 PM
synecdoche, new york is the new charlie kaufman whereby the director (in the film) builds a set of the entire city inside a warehouse. kaufman is a genius. mister lonely is the new harmony korine that has samantha morton playing marilyn monroe and werner herzog (!) playing himself. tenderness is an adptation of a robert cormier novel. all three sound juicy as all hell just based on what i've read.

i brought up southland on dvd because i know that's where darko made all of its money.

also, inland empire. wide release or no? waiting in phoenix.

amyzzz
02-01-2007, 12:53 PM
also, inland empire. wide release or no? waiting in phoenix.
Chalk that up as at least 2 people waiting in Phoenix. David Lynch movies turn me on.

PotVsKtl
02-01-2007, 01:38 PM
Michael Haneke (Cache) is remaking his 97 film Funny Games with American actors. I personally find it to be a retarded proposition but it's got Naomi Watts and Tim Roth, so hey.

chunk
02-01-2007, 01:47 PM
i crumble remembering that film.

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2007, 01:51 PM
can any of the az kids tell me if "the good german" ever made it to the valley? i don't remember ever hearing about it here :(

downingthief
02-01-2007, 01:59 PM
can any of the az kids tell me if "the good german" ever made it to the valley? i don't remember ever hearing about it here :(

Hasn't hit here yet, Ivy. Think it is still just in LA, NY, and Toronto. Hopefully, it will get a full release soon. Been wanting to see this since the trailer came out. I love film noir! And, Cate Blanchett.

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2007, 02:11 PM
Hasn't hit here yet, Ivy. Think it is still just in LA, NY, and Toronto. Hopefully, it will get a full release soon. Been wanting to see this since the trailer came out. I love film noir! And, Cate Blanchett.

me too! just last year i started getting into film noir and i love it. can't wait to see how it turns out. cate blanchett is amazing too, i love her!

we should all go together when it finally does come :)

downingthief
02-01-2007, 02:23 PM
me too! just last year i started getting into film noir and i love it. can't wait to see how it turns out. cate blanchett is amazing too, i love her!

we should all go together when it finally does come :)

Definitely!

mountmccabe
02-01-2007, 02:37 PM
The Good German starts tomorrow at Valley Art.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 02:39 PM
I liked "The Good German" a lot. I didn't understand it, but I liked it. I think I heard that the wide release would be in late January, but clearly that is not the case. I have no idea when or if "Inland Empire" will ever extend....well...inland.

mob roulette - Thaaaat's right. "Synedoche, New York", I have heard of before. Yeah, I'm totally putting that on my must-see list. And I didn't know Harmony Korine was making a new movie! That's a great tip, keep up the good work!

Speaking of Herzog, his new film "Rescue Dawn" comes out in April.

For me, the number one movie on my radar this year is "There Will Be Blood". PTA's been out of action for quite some time, and now he's coming back with a period epic about the oil industry without any of his usual company of actors. Daniel Day-Lewis is the lead, though, so I don't see how this will be anything but excellent.

Park Chan-wook and Lars von Trier are both releasing comedies this year, which I find both intriguing and odd. I've never seen "Idiotern", so I'm used to von Trier films being wrenching; I'd be interested to see what his brilliantly sick mind thinks is funny. And it's safe to say that Park has never done anything that can be considered a comedy. Plus, Wong Kar-Wai has his first English film coming out - "My Blueberry Nights", which I think stars Maggie Gyllenhaal.

"Black Snake Moan" and "Zodiac" and "Sunshine" (new Danny Boyle) should ensure that Spring 2007 will be far better than the average first-quarter of a film year, and I've also heard great things about Adam Sandler's dramatic turn in "Reign Over Me", although the trailer looks like ass. David Gordon Green had a new film play Sundance - "Snow Angels" - that will hopefully come out sometime soon.

It's shaping up to be a pretty great year.

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2007, 02:40 PM
The Good German starts tomorrow at Valley Art.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, score!

anyone want to go? maybe sunday?

chunk
02-01-2007, 02:43 PM
(counts to ten)

mountmccabe
02-01-2007, 02:52 PM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, score!

anyone want to go? maybe sunday?

I am in, theoretically. I think I was planning on watching football on Sunday and there's not an early enough showing. 2:30/5/7:30/10.

schoolofruckus
02-01-2007, 02:52 PM
I'm sorry, did you say something, Chunk?

chunk
02-01-2007, 02:56 PM
I'm sorry, did you say something, Chunk?

im not sure what you mean.

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2007, 02:58 PM
I am in, theoretically. I think I was planning on watching football on Sunday and there's not an early enough showing. 2:30/5/7:30/10.

i didn't know it was the superbowl until today so i don't really care when i go :)

if people wanted to go another day, i'd be down for that too.

mountmccabe
02-01-2007, 03:34 PM
i didn't know it was the superbowl until today so i don't really care when i go :)

if people wanted to go another day, i'd be down for that too.

OK I'll offer up 7:30pm on Monday. Comments?

Also, hell, I missed teh Super Bowl last year (to see of Montreal, I think it was) so I wouldn't be that upset about Sunday. But Tuesday is right out because of Sparklehorse at the Clubhouse.

downingthief
02-01-2007, 04:04 PM
i didn't know it was the superbowl until today so i don't really care when i go :)

if people wanted to go another day, i'd be down for that too.



I would love to go! Can't miss the game on Sunday, though. :)
Monday's out for me, too. Might have to see it another time around, if that's the plan.

McCabe, any other night work for you?

mob roulette
02-01-2007, 08:31 PM
Dedication (http://http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0490579/) is the one that really looks interesting to me though. Maybe it's the soundtrack...Deerhoof, Cat Power, Fischerspooner, etc.

Also, Youth Without Youth (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0481797/) is that new Francis Ford Coppola that he's keeping like a secret. Lots of good whispers allegedly coming from the cast and crew though.

mountmccabe
02-01-2007, 10:28 PM
McCabe, any other night work for you?

Sure. Tuesday the 6th is Sparklehorse otherwise next week looks very flexible.

downingthief
02-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Crap. My week next week just got booked up...family in town, and some business. Enjoy the flick, if you guys go! I'll have to wait until the following week.

chairmenmeow47
02-02-2007, 01:37 PM
monday i start geology :(

tuesday, wednesday, thursday after 6 or next sunday would work for me. a saturday matinee next weekend would also be possible.

if anyone can do any of these, let me know!

downingthief
02-02-2007, 02:00 PM
monday i start geology :(

tuesday, wednesday, thursday after 6 or next sunday would work for me. a saturday matinee next weekend would also be possible.

if anyone can do any of these, let me know!

I'm all booked until Monday, the 12th and Tuesday the 13th. :(

I remember taking geology. It was pretty painful...

amyzzz
02-02-2007, 02:26 PM
This attempt to see The Good German has become a fairly entertaining soap opera.

downingthief
02-02-2007, 02:33 PM
This attempt to see The Good German has become a fairly entertaining soap opera.

It's the Prequel.

KungFuJoe
02-03-2007, 09:50 AM
Has anyone seen the preview for Julie Taymor's newest film yet?? I've heard nothing about it till now and just watched the preview. It's a musical w/ music by The Beatles and it's called "Across The Universe". Unfortunately it doesn't get released until September but it looks amazing.

I love Taymor's work. TITUS & FRIDA are stunningly beautiful films. This could be her best yet. I, for one, can not wait for this spectacle. Just thought I'd share. Check out the trailer: http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1552760&sdm=web&qtw=480&qth=300

other than that I have no new reviews to share at the moment as I haven't been to the theater in a while. If you're loking to rent a good flick though, go pick up a copy of The Descent. This is the best horror film I've seen in a looong time. Edge of your seat, bloody mayhem at it's finest.

schoolofruckus
02-03-2007, 10:16 AM
That looks out-fucking-STANDING. I will absolutely be seeing that.

I have never seen "Titus" or "Frida", either; the latter, in particular, is one I always wanted to catch, but just never did.

chairmenmeow47
02-03-2007, 10:26 AM
frida wasn't very good. but that's probably just because salma hayek is horrible and painful as an "actress".

the trailer for across the universe looks interesting, i'd see it. that across the universe cover at the end sounds a lil obnoxious though.

KungFuJoe
02-03-2007, 11:18 AM
I'm much more of a fan of TITUS. I'd reccomend watching them both, but I wasn't the biggest fan of FRIDA when i first saw it. It's a beautiful film that I'd give another chance, but a little slow. TITUS is awesome though! If only for the cinematography.

corbo
02-03-2007, 12:50 PM
i'm watching "waking life" in spanish..
que bueno!!

devachan
02-04-2007, 08:09 AM
frida wasn't very good. but that's probably just because salma hayek is horrible and painful as an "actress".

I completely disagree with this. She was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance so obviously I'm not alone in this assesment (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411870/awards). The movie was also critically acclaimed upon it's release.

vinylmartyr
02-04-2007, 06:49 PM
Anybody heard anything about "Zodiac" David Fincher's new movie?

vinylmartyr
02-04-2007, 06:52 PM
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CuervoPH
02-04-2007, 07:12 PM
I finally saw "Pan's Labyrinth" on Saturday. This will join "Babel" and "The Fountain" as movies I've seen recently that I'll immediately purchase when they're released on DVD.

I also saw "Last King Of Scotland" within the last week, but that'll fall into the rental category if I watch it again. Very good movie, and great performance by Forest Whitaker, but not something I feel is a must-own.

Next Saturday, I'll catch "Volver" and that should catch me up (at least briefly) on movies I want to see in the theater.

amyzzz
02-04-2007, 07:17 PM
I saw Hard Candy last night. That is one fucked up movie, but very well-acted.

delibot3029
02-04-2007, 08:23 PM
i agree completely. it was so bad.I disagree, aside from the 15-30 minutes in the film, which was a result of poor editing. It was a daring film that took sharp and precise jabs. I went to see it opening weekend, with a surprisingly crowded theater.

tessalasset
02-04-2007, 10:26 PM
yeah m show was sold out too. i just remember thinking it was gonna be this phenomenal bite at our dumb consumer culture and left feeling jipped. it was just boring and slapstick.

schoolofruckus
02-05-2007, 07:09 AM
Anybody heard anything about "Zodiac" David Fincher's new movie?

Yeah, "Zodiac" should be AWESOME. David Fincher's one of the best visual artists in film, and this three-hour crime epic looks like it has the makings of a classic.

bug on your lip
02-05-2007, 07:14 AM
three hours !?!?

schoolofruckus
02-05-2007, 07:17 AM
That's the word. I read that the script was nearly 200 pages.

Yablonowitz
02-05-2007, 07:18 AM
I finally saw "Pan's Labyrinth" on Saturday. This will join "Babel" and "The Fountain" as movies I've seen recently that I'll immediately purchase when they're released on DVD.


Ha, I saw Pan's Labyrinth on Saturday too...as did Adam. I dug it. Pot's criticism about the grapes doesn't make sense to me. I think the director very consciously made her actions seem irrational.

schoolofruckus
02-05-2007, 07:23 AM
"Once" will be released in early summer. Yippy! (http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/02/once_going_out.php)

Yablonowitz
02-05-2007, 07:24 AM
Did you just say "yippy"?

PotVsKtl
02-05-2007, 10:32 AM
http://www.canine-clippers.com/images/jan1406/We%20will%20groom%20like%20this.....jpg

tessalasset
02-05-2007, 10:35 AM
wow

chairmenmeow47
02-05-2007, 11:10 AM
I completely disagree with this. She was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance so obviously I'm not alone in this assesment (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808411870/awards). The movie was also critically acclaimed upon it's release.

*shrugs* to each their own. but the 3-6 mafia were also nominated for an academy (and won), that doesn't mean i have to like it :)

i didn't really pay attention to the cinematography though, and maybe i should have. i'll have to check out titus sometime too.

ghettojournalist
02-05-2007, 03:24 PM
i saw the trailer for "Zodiac" and it looks really good.
can't wait to check it out.

amyzzz
02-05-2007, 04:50 PM
I just watched L'Enfant this morning, and that movie was really good, really sad.


*SPOILERS*





I felt bad for the girl: she should have known how scuzzy her boyfriend was--I mean, he sublet her flat out without her permission and randomly sold her stuff for money, and she trusted him with her baby? Sad. I was struck by how young and clueless this poor couple was, but they seemed to genuinely love each other.

schoolofruckus
02-05-2007, 04:53 PM
Yeah, that was a masterpiece and then some. Brilliantly written, acted, and directed.....punishingly emotional without even a hint of artifice (like, not even so much as a musical score).

amyzzz
02-05-2007, 04:56 PM
Yeah, that was a masterpiece and then some. Brilliantly written, acted, and directed.....punishingly emotional without even a hint of artifice (like, not even so much as a musical score).
It's nice to have a movie that makes a social commentary without beating you over the head with it.

schoolofruckus
02-05-2007, 04:58 PM
I just love that level of insight, where the filmmaker's perspective disappears and you have a character that you see with complete objectivity and compassion in spite of his flaws. I also love the fact that Bruno - and not his infant son - is the real "L' Enfant" in the movie.

amyzzz
02-05-2007, 05:08 PM
I have a question: why didn't that baby EVER cry? That was not a human baby.

schoolofruckus
02-05-2007, 06:09 PM
Ummmm.....it's sleeping?

amyzzz
02-05-2007, 07:08 PM
It wasn't sleeping. It couldn't have been sleeping the entire time. I heard coos here and there. Well, OK, newborns DO sleep a lot, but still.

schoolofruckus
02-06-2007, 07:10 AM
Get thee to a video store and bathe thyself in the almighty comic splendor that is "Freddy Got Fingered".

chairmenmeow47
02-06-2007, 07:45 AM
how many lebarons do you see?!?!?

schoolofruckus
02-06-2007, 08:02 AM
Gord! GORD! It's fuckin' stupid. The drawings are pretty good, but the characters are lame.

schoolofruckus
02-06-2007, 09:50 AM
In the words of Maynard...."HOLY FUCKING SHIT". (http://legendofchucknorris.com/trailer.html)

It's February 6th, and the race for best film of 2007 is over.

chairmenmeow47
02-06-2007, 10:04 AM
so, if anyone in az is interested in seeing the good german sunday, me and my movie buddy will most likely be in attendance. hit me up!!!

downingthief
02-06-2007, 10:11 AM
so, if anyone in az is interested in seeing the good german sunday, me and my movie buddy will most likely be in attendance. hit me up!!!

Crap...I was going to see if you were up for Monday. In town family leaves Monday morning.
Incidently, there is NOTHING worse than having people stay at your house when you are sick. Nothing! Thankfully, "I got bettah."

chairmenmeow47
02-06-2007, 11:10 AM
yeah, that sounds lame.

my movie buddy isn't definate since she wants to go see that bodyworlds exhibit again. mondays are kinda bad. starting yesterday, i have geology on mondays until 9:30-10 in scottsdale. technically, i could do a showing after 10, but that might be late for you. i'm awake after class so i wouldn't really care. but if you're interested, let me know :)

downingthief
02-06-2007, 11:33 AM
yeah, that sounds lame.

my movie buddy isn't definate since she wants to go see that bodyworlds exhibit again. mondays are kinda bad. starting yesterday, i have geology on mondays until 9:30-10 in scottsdale. technically, i could do a showing after 10, but that might be late for you. i'm awake after class so i wouldn't really care. but if you're interested, let me know :)

I'd be up for that. Only thing is according to their site, last showing is right at 10. I'm open Tuesday, as well. :)
Either way, I am there!

chairmenmeow47
02-06-2007, 11:46 AM
tuesday would be much better, lets do that! i have a feeling my movie buddy will cancel anyways...

i'm free after 6 :)

oh, and i PM'd you so we don't have to overtake this thread anymore... lol.

chairmenmeow47
02-06-2007, 11:49 AM
You guys should get eachother's email addresses.

ha ha ha, great minds think alike cause i just sent a pm, sorry :)

it just seems like people ignore my PMs, BUG, I'M LOOKING IN YOUR DIRECTION!

Jenniehoo
02-06-2007, 11:58 PM
I want to see the number 23.

bmack86
02-07-2007, 12:05 AM
I have a huge stack of movies to watch right now, including Seven Samurai, Amacord, The Naked Kiss, Yojimbo, Die Zauberflote (Bergman version), The Harder they Come, Down By Law, Through a Glass Darkly, I Vitelloni, 8 1/2 and Ran (Kurosawa)

schoolofruckus
02-07-2007, 07:06 AM
"Ran" is amazing.

I haven't seen any other Kurosawas except "Rashomon", and I didn't like that one at all. I know it was very pioneering from a storytelling perspective, but the acting - even by period terms - was so atrocious that I couldn't get into it.

My stack is currently as such:

Movies I have never seen: Blue Velvet, The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, Nixon (a friend's DVD that was loaned to me about 2 years ago)

Movies I have recently bought and not seen in a while: City of God, Amores Perros, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Coachella, V for Vendetta

bug on your lip
02-07-2007, 07:13 AM
Holy filthy fukin Bo Nar
That Ghost Rider movie looks terrible

chairmenmeow47
02-07-2007, 07:15 AM
Holy filthy fukin Bo Nar
That Ghost Rider movie looks terrible

no shit. almost parody awful. i really wonder what goes through people's head when they cast nicholas cage in these roles. "oh yeah, he's TOUGHHHHHHHHH" my ass.

bug on your lip
02-07-2007, 07:23 AM
i know i'm opening myself to get schoolioed, but has Nicholas Cage done anything decent besides "Raising Arizona" ???

i remember seeing him in National Treasure (or whatever it was called) a couple years ago, & was like 'daymmmnnn, he is just sleepwalking thru this role.' he must be one of the worst actors employed right now.

chairmenmeow47
02-07-2007, 07:26 AM
imdb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000115/)

ok, i've never seen leaving las vegas, but that's the only other thing i've really heard good things about.

peggy sue got married, honeymoon in vegas & and it could happen to you were all movies where he didn't bother me, but he wasn't great or anything.

and raising arizona is one of the best movies EVER!!!

"no one sleeps naked in this house!"

Yablonowitz
02-07-2007, 07:27 AM
i know i'm opening myself to get schoolioed, but has Nicholas Cage done anything decent besides "Raising Arizona" ???

i remember seeing him in National Treasure (or whatever it was called) a couple years ago, & was like 'daymmmnnn, he is just sleepwalking thru this role.' he must be one of the worst actors employed right now.

I'm with you on Nicholas Cage. I don't get it...he's overrated in the extreme.

TomAz
02-07-2007, 07:29 AM
has Nicholas Cage done anything decent besides "Raising Arizona" ???


I thought "Birdy" was pretty good. but I haven't seen that since it was in theaters, I may have a different opinion now.

chairmenmeow47
02-07-2007, 07:31 AM
I thought "Birdy" was pretty good. but I haven't seen that since it was in theaters, I may have a different opinion now.

i've never heard of that. but according to IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086969/), it was directed by alan parker, so now i have to see it. midnight express, mississippi burning, evita and the life of david gale are all awesome movies.

the road to wellville though... not so much. maybe i just don't remember it well, i saw that in theatres, so i was only like 12.

downingthief
02-07-2007, 07:33 AM
I'm with you on Nicholas Cage. I don't get it...he's overrated in the extreme.

What about "Leaving Las Vegas?" Thought he was excellent in that.

downingthief
02-07-2007, 07:35 AM
"Ran" is amazing.

I haven't seen any other Kurosawas except "Rashomon", and I didn't like that one at all. I know it was very pioneering from a storytelling perspective, but the acting - even by period terms - was so atrocious that I couldn't get into it.

My stack is currently as such:

Movies I have never seen: Blue Velvet, The Death of Mr. Lazarescu, Nixon (a friend's DVD that was loaned to me about 2 years ago)

Movies I have recently bought and not seen in a while: City of God, Amores Perros, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Coachella, V for Vendetta

"Blue Velvet" is my fave overall Lynch flick. Everything you need to know about a David Lynch movie is in there.

"Taxi Driver" is a MUST see, by everyone.

bug on your lip
02-07-2007, 07:40 AM
yeah, looking over his IMDB bio
i did like "Birdy" alot, good flick

Fast Times at Ridgemont High of course is a great movie, but Cage doesn't make or break that one, too minor

Didn't think his acting in Leaving Las Vegas was anything special

He was good in Adaptation, although there were other actors in that whose performances completely eclipsed his...

so yeah, out of the 59 movies he's done. i'd only recommend:
1. Raising Arizona
2. Birdy
3. Adaptation

downingthief
02-07-2007, 07:41 AM
yeah, looking over his IMDB bio
i did like "Birdy" alot, good flick

Fast Times at Ridgemont High of course is a great movie, but Cage doesn't make or break that one, too minor

Didn't think his acting in Leaving Las Vegas was anything special

He was good in Adaptation, although there were other actors in that whose performances completely eclipsed his...

so yeah, out of the 59 movies he's done. i'd only recommend:
1. Raising Arizona
2. Birdy
3. Adaptation

Forgot about Adaptation...Good call. Disagree with you on Vegas, but the others are solid.

schoolofruckus
02-07-2007, 07:50 AM
The thing is, Cage is either awful, or he's brilliant. There's really no middle ground.

I will say that I didn't like "Leaving Las Vegas", particularly because of his performance, at all, even though that was the one he won an Oscar for. To me, he seemed like an actor who had never so much as sniffed alcohol, trying to play a drunk. I also have not - you can slap me for this - seen either "Raising Arizona" or "Wild at Heart", two alleged Cage classics from directors that I should not be slacking on. The latter I will be seeing at a midnight screening at the Nuart this Friday, if any of you Los Angeles-area types want to join me.

Some great Nicolas Cage movies:

"Bringing Out the Dead"
"Adaptation"
"Matchstick Men"

Some fun Nicolas Cage action movies:

"Face/Off"
"The Rock"
"Con Air"

However, for any of these movies, we have to endure three or four "National Treasure"s or "Gone In Sixty Seconds" or - and this is the one that truly makes me shudder - "Windtalkers".

In "Windtalkers", Nicolas Cage gives perhaps the single worst performance in the history of movies. Worse than Ed Norton in "Red Dragon". Worse than Angelina Jolie in "Alexander". Worse than everybody in "Snakes on a Plane". Worse than anything Renee Zelweger has ever done. The alcoholic army man that Nicolas Cage plays in "Windtalkers" makes his "Leaving Las Vegas" character look like Brandon in "Last Tango" by comparison. I mean, seriously, I am now completely convinced that Nic Cage is a straight edge. He can't possibly have even so much as eaten fucking paste in kindergarten, for how inept he is at playing drunkards. My favorite part of "Windtalkers" - which, I might add, is possibly the most egregious entry yet in the "Hollywood can't make movies about the non-white man, so let's plug in a pasty star who has NO place here" sweepstakes - is where Nic Cage is sitting there pulling from his flask and he moans "no one else is gonna die" about three seconds before a bomb goes off that does, in fact, kill a bunch of people. My friend Dave and I recycled this quote repeatedly every time we saw those dreadful trailers for "World Trade Center" this past summer.

Then again, I have a friend with solid - if a bit too snobby for his own good sometimes - film taste who swears to the moon and back that Nicolas Cage is the most brilliant actor in Hollywood, and that he's incapable of giving a performance that is less than entertaining. I really don't know what to say to this, but the school of thought exists.

wmgaretjax
02-07-2007, 07:52 AM
favorite movies (in a generally preferred order):
1. Piano Tuner of Earthquakes
2. Inland Empire
3. Children of Men
4. L'enfant
5. Lunacy
6. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
7. Scanner Darkly
8. When the Levee Broke
9. The Proposition
10. tie Battle in Heaven
11.+Babel/Little Miss Sunshine/Tristam Shandy

Movies I did not like, others did:
United 93
Science of Sleep
THank You for Smoking

CuervoPH
02-07-2007, 08:35 AM
look like Brandon in "Last Tango" by comparison

I know this was meant to be Brando, but it made me laugh a bit thinking we might have a movie star in our midst and not even realize it.

That being said, I agree with the few movies already given where people actually liked the performance by Nicholas Cage. My three favorites that I've seen are "Adaptation", "Wild at Heart", and "Raising Arizona". I also liked "Face/Off" despite Nicholas Cage, mainly for the scene where they're shooting up the house while the kid is listening to "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" on his headphones.

Now an off-topic question: I was planning on going to see "Volver" on Saturday but just found out the theater that's showing it is taking it out on Friday to make room for some crap film or other. Is it good enough that I should try to catch it tonight or tomorrow, or can I wait until the DVD release? I really wanted to see it at the theater, but I don't think a whole lot of impact will be lost by seeing it on DVD.

chairmenmeow47
02-07-2007, 08:36 AM
you can wait for dvd to see volver. i really liked the movie, but it's not one of those movies you "have" to see in theatres.

bmack86
02-07-2007, 08:42 AM
I forgot, I have Raging Bull and Taxi Driver on my list too.

PotVsKtl
02-07-2007, 08:49 AM
http://www.cagefactor.com/wallpapers/valleygirl1_800.jpg

hawkingvsreeve
02-07-2007, 09:00 AM
Yeah, Con Air was sweet.

"Put the bunny, in the box."

mob roulette
02-07-2007, 09:35 AM
it's cause he's a Coppola. Francis made a deal with the devil that all Coppola family members will be guaranteed lifetime Hollywood employment in exchange for Francis never having another hit in his life.

it's what I heard anyway.

matsuolost
02-07-2007, 09:56 AM
1. the fountain
2. inland empire
3. the science of sleep
4. the prestige
5. little miss sunshine
6. the departed
7. volver
8. a scanner darkly
9. marie antoinette
10. babel

Yablonowitz
02-07-2007, 10:02 AM
1. the fountain
2. inland empire
3. the science of sleep
4. the prestige
5. little miss sunshine
6. the departed
7. volver
8. a scanner darkly
9. marie antoinette
10. babel

That's what she said.

ghettojournalist
02-07-2007, 10:22 AM
i liked nic in "moonstruck."
quirky enough for my sensibilities.

KungFuJoe
02-07-2007, 01:43 PM
All this talk about Nicolas Cage & David Lynch and it doesn't appear that anyone has mentioned "Wild At Heart". WTF?!

schoolofruckus
02-07-2007, 01:48 PM
All this talk about Nicolas Cage & David Lynch and it doesn't appear that anyone has mentioned "Wild At Heart". WTF?!

Joe, I mentioned "Wild at Heart" in my post. I'm going to see it at the Nuart on Friday night at midnight, you wanna go?

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schoolofruckus
02-07-2007, 01:51 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, that bee scene made me shiver.

schoolofruckus
02-07-2007, 01:57 PM
Everything but the bees made me roffle. But I hate fucking bees.

atom heart
02-07-2007, 01:59 PM
My favorite part in Moonstruck is when Cage gets clocked by Cher. That basically makes the entire movie, for me at least. Raising Arizona is the only movie I like that has Cage in it. He's just deadpan.

atom heart
02-07-2007, 02:09 PM
There are bees. In his eyes. Oh Em Gee. There are bees. In his eyes.

/monotone

J~$$$
02-07-2007, 02:13 PM
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mountmccabe
02-07-2007, 02:45 PM
Joe, I mentioned "Wild at Heart" in my post. I'm going to see it at the Nuart on Friday night at midnight, you wanna go?

You should love this, Gabe.

KungFuJoe
02-07-2007, 02:51 PM
Joe, I mentioned "Wild at Heart" in my post. I'm going to see it at the Nuart on Friday night at midnight, you wanna go?


My bad. I totally missed that post. I'll get back to you about the Nuart screening.

A good friend of mines birthday is this weekend and I'm unsure if he's planning on going out Friday or Saturday night. He is a fan of "Wild at Heart" though, so maybe he would like to go to the midnight showing as well if his party plans aren't until Saturday.

schoolofruckus
02-07-2007, 03:08 PM
You should love this, Gabe.

I certainly hope so. I'm gonna take a nap and drink a cappuccino and everything beforehand so I can enjoy it.

Yablonowitz
02-07-2007, 03:16 PM
You haven't seen "Wild at Heart"?

Are you THAT retarded?

thinnerair
02-07-2007, 03:18 PM
What about "Leaving Las Vegas?" Thought he was excellent in that.


have you ever seen 8MM?
easily one of the most retarded movies ever.

KungFuJoe
02-08-2007, 04:08 AM
And now for something completely different.

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KungFuJoe
02-08-2007, 05:05 AM
And for those of you who live in NYC, head to the ImaginAsian to see "The Taste of Tea". It's times like this I miss living there.

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thinnerair
02-08-2007, 05:57 AM
And for those of you who live in NYC, head to the ImaginAsian to see "The Taste of Tea". It's times like this I miss living there.

my friend Bill was a projectionist there. He just left like 3 weeks ago.
Ive never actually gone. I hear its a pretty cool little theater.

thinnerair
02-08-2007, 05:57 AM
by the way....is anyone psyched about this new Hannibal flick coming out?

schoolofruckus
02-08-2007, 07:52 AM
After "Red Dragon", I'd rather give my Coachella tickets away to suprefan than sit through another Hannibal Lecter movie.

But at least it doesn't have Anthony Hopkins in it again.

chairmenmeow47
02-08-2007, 11:37 AM
so, jack's post (http://www.coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41964&postcount=77) in the TV thread reminded me...

how come on the 300 trailer the guy says "tonight, we dine in hell!!!" shouldn't it be hades?!?! i see that trailer almost everytime i go to the movies and it makes me wonder.

lindseyb
02-08-2007, 01:03 PM
i can't stand nicolas cage. although wild at heart is a great movie, i'd like to think that david lynch had his reasons for not re-casting him in any of his other films, which he usually will do with actors he likes.

on a semi-related note, i'm going to the premier of inland empire in SF tonight, which is also the kickoff of SF indie fest. apparently our tickets also get us into an "after-party" with food & drink. i'm more interested in seeing the movie though...i've never seen a david lynch movie on the big screen before!

what new hannibal film is coming out? i thought they had done a movie for each of the books in the trilogy.

saw "sherrybaby" last weekend. maggie gyllenhaal was superb, as expected, but probably the most depressing movie i've seen.

chunk
02-08-2007, 04:54 PM
its the even more prequel than red dragon.

(edited so as to not spoil.) didnt watch it. just read the book review.

schoolofruckus
02-08-2007, 05:01 PM
I didn't know "Young Hannibal" was a novel as well....I just thought that Dino DiLaurentiis commissioned someone to make another movie.

caco0283
02-08-2007, 05:02 PM
i heard the novel was decent

chunk
02-08-2007, 05:03 PM
thomas harris is the new anne rice.

mountmccabe
02-08-2007, 05:44 PM
so, jack's post (http://www.coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41964&postcount=77) in the TV thread reminded me...

how come on the 300 trailer the guy says "tonight, we dine in hell!!!" shouldn't it be hades?!?! i see that trailer almost everytime i go to the movies and it makes me wonder.

Shouldn't it all be in Doric Greek and Old Persian?

KungFuJoe
02-08-2007, 08:15 PM
my friend Bill was a projectionist there. He just left like 3 weeks ago.
Ive never actually gone. I hear its a pretty cool little theater.

That's a shame. Great little theater if you like asian cinema. There are even asian snacks. They are now host to my favorite film festival in the world, the NYAFF (New York Asian Film Festival)

It's organized by a fun group of guys over at Subway Cinema. www.subwaycinema.com

Some of the most entertaining films are screened there. It's a very fun festival. You should check it out this summer.

bmack86
02-08-2007, 08:38 PM
i can't stand nicolas cage. although wild at heart is a great movie, i'd like to think that david lynch had his reasons for not re-casting him in any of his other films, which he usually will do with actors he likes.

on a semi-related note, i'm going to the premier of inland empire in SF tonight, which is also the kickoff of SF indie fest. apparently our tickets also get us into an "after-party" with food & drink. i'm more interested in seeing the movie though...i've never seen a david lynch movie on the big screen before!

what new hannibal film is coming out? i thought they had done a movie for each of the books in the trilogy.

saw "sherrybaby" last weekend. maggie gyllenhaal was superb, as expected, but probably the most depressing movie i've seen.

Nicholas Cage is a jackass. My dad worked on a set with him and he wouldn't talk to any of the technical people. He would come out of his trailer, shoot his scene and then return to his trailer. His PA brought him alll his food and he didn't interact with anyone.

Mr.Nipples
02-09-2007, 11:30 AM
heres a trailer for that new FACES OF DEATH movie everyones been going apeshit about...
http://www.d13network.com/videosp/fod2.html
looks like its going straight to video...

metal gear solid movie finally in development
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31516

SojuGorae
02-09-2007, 11:44 AM
I'd be down to watch a Marshall Applewhite bio-pic starring Burt Reynolds directed by Michael Bay.

chairmenmeow47
02-09-2007, 11:48 AM
Shouldn't it all be in Doric Greek and Old Persian?

ha ha ha, good point. i don't know why it bothers me so much, but everytime i see the trailer i get pissed off. i think it's the angry music they play, lol.

schoolofruckus
02-09-2007, 01:42 PM
heres a trailer for that new FACES OF DEATH movie everyones been going apeshit about...
http://www.d13network.com/videosp/fod2.html
looks like its going straight to video...

metal gear solid movie finally in development
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31516

I didn't get the "Faces of Death" trailer....is that about the guy who started the "Faces of Death" series? I saw "FoD 2" in high school....it upset the shit out of me. It included a video of a guy being torchered by witches and they cut his cheeks with a pair of garden shears. It was pretty fucking realistic, too. I hated that shit. It was like "Irreversible" without the artistry or the point.

In slightly-less-fucked-up movie news - I finally saw "Blue Velvet" for the first time last night. I thought it was awesome. It was slightly more conventional than the two Lynch films ("Mulholland" and "Inland") that I've seen before it, but I can see what was so audacious about it. It was a great example of how Lynch's masterful visual and audio techniques can work wonders on a relatively-normal plot about a young boy investigating potential foul play in his small town. The acting was terrific as well.

Hopefully I'll make it to "Wild at Heart" tonight. Then I've got a lot more Lynch ahead of me ("Lost Highways", "Elephant Man", "Eraserhead", etc.).

schoolofruckus
02-09-2007, 01:52 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha.....any of you who read Ain't It Cool News regularly may be familiar with Neill Cumpston, who writes some of the funniest reviews of action movies and comedies that are humanly possible.

His take on "300". (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31520)