Schoolio's Movie Corner

[stinkbutt]

Saw Terminator tonight and really it's not too bad if you just wanna watch cool looking robots blow up for awhile it's worth a download but I wouldn't advise paying for it

[RotationSlimWang]

Wow. Coming from ye olde Stinkbutt, that must mean it fucking sucks.

[stinkbutt]

Is it time for an Unforgiven rant again?

[schoolofruckus]

Enter the Void screened today at Cannes, and the only review I've found so far (http://www.screendaily.com/enter-the-void/5001692.article) suggests that it is EXACTLY what I hoped it would be. Like many of the Antichrist reviews, it seems to be written only for people who were at the screening - i.e., a ton of fucking spoilers - so tread carefully. There isn't anything major described in the first couple paragraphs:


Almost defying definition in contemporary cinematic terms, Gaspar Noe’s third feature film Enter The Void is a wild, hallucinatory mindfuck for adults which sees the director explore new shooting techniques and ambitious special effects to capture a young man’s journey after death. More experience than narrative, it runs to a massive 163 minutes, meandering and careening in and out of story and into visual realms and moods that are nothing short of hypnotic. It is a film that will instantly achieve cult status among young adults. If audiences care to, they can lose themselves in Noe’s images and trip on his imagination. If they don’t, they will be bored to tears.

Bound to divide critics and audiences as decisively as 2002’s Irreversible, Enter The Void is clearly the work of a visionary mind who plunges into darkness literally and thematically at any given opportunity. Scenes here – from the graphic performance of an abortion to extensive drug use, violence and frequent, explicit sex acts – will render it a limited distribution prospect with the most prohibitive censorship ratings available. But with his first two features Seul Contre Tous and Irreversible, Noe has built a loyal following bound to lap up his latest no-holds-barred opus. Life on DVD could be even more profitable, and adventurous viewers will no doubt adopt the film as an accompaniment for booze and drugs use.

[wmgaretjax]

i cannot wait.

[PotVsKtl]

the graphic performance of an abortion

Sweet lord.

[vogina]

Terminator Salvation.. It could have been great, but what the fuck with the editing of the film and the time line.

[Young blood]

http://www.banksyscomingfordinner.com/trailer.php


What is this?

[wmgaretjax]

fucking retarded.

[Mr.Nipples]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGMgZOo0po
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGMgZOo0po
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGMgZOo0po

[SoulDischarge]

Why isn't the rest of the world fucking sick of shitty pseudo-political street art already?

[real talk]

Sweet lord.

Have you seen 4 Months 3 Weeks and 2 Days?

[BlackSwan]

Southland Tales was fucking horrible... In every possible way. I knew this after I watched the first 5 minutes.

[PotVsKtl]

Have you seen 4 Months 3 Weeks and 2 Days?

I have not. I have however been tricked into viewing those partial birth abortion websites. The thing that's kind of concerning is that there's nothing particularly graphic, as far as I know, about an early term abortion, so I can't imagine that's what is going on in the movie.

And abortion debate ...... go!

[wmgaretjax]

I have not.


You should.

[real talk]

I have not. I have however been tricked into viewing those partial birth abortion websites. The thing that's kind of concerning is that there's nothing particularly graphic, as far as I know, about an early term abortion, so I can't imagine that's what is going on in the movie.

And abortion debate ...... go!

The movie is pretty two sided on the politics. It's not propaganda. But it does have a little fetus (no pun).

[wmgaretjax]

The movie is pretty two sided on the politics. It's not propaganda. But it does have a little fetus (no pun).

Yeah, I didn't think it was very political at all (at least in terms of the abortion issue). Or if it was, abortion was just a representation of the whole issue.

[real talk]

SPOILER


































I got the feeling throughout the movie that it was coming from the pro-choice side because of how they showed the struggle that the ladies had to go through and how it was so dangerous and then when they show you know what at the end it totally flipped it for me like THAT was the point, the shock of seeing THAT. I'm good at movie reviews.

[wmgaretjax]

More than pro-choice, it seemed more of a general condemnation of communist romania. abortion was just one element of a much larger issue of personal freedom.

But man, the dinner scene at the boyfriend's house was plain brutal.

[real talk]

Agreed.

[PotVsKtl]

Dance Flick is essentially a minstrel show.

[LooseAtTheZoo]

While we're on the subject of abortion movies, did anyone see Lake of Fire? I really wanted to, is it worth renting?

[stinkbutt]

Is it me or is Quentin Tarantino becoming the George Lucas of this generation?

[wmgaretjax]

While we're on the subject of abortion movies, did anyone see Lake of Fire? I really wanted to, is it worth renting?

Yes. It could have been edited some... But it's a good documentary. It does a good job of showing the humanity of the issue, pointing out the crazies on each side... And letting itself play out without bullshit rhetoric.

[sbessiso]

Re: Southland Tales

This is just what I needed, plus I ordered the graphic novel from the library

http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2007/12/19/southland_tales_analysis/index.html

[rage patton]

I saw Night At The Museum 2 last night. It was pretty funny and had some good cameos in it, but it definitely wasn't as good as the first.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

i just saw a movie that i'm not sure how I never had heard of before, but it's pretty fucking great:

TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A.
http://www.mikesalisbury.net/ftp/top40/live_and_die.jpg

it's what I thought was going to be a typical 80s thriller about counterfeiting, but is wickedly dark, surprisingly violent and gruesome, and full of literally shocking twists. Willem Dafoe is a terrificly evil bad guy who gets just as much, if not more screen time than the protagonists, and is a blast to watch. William L. Peterson, who I guess has been on CSI for forever (i've never seen the show) also gives an amazing performance just a year or two before his great turn in ManHunter as a Secret Service officer who basically starts going insane while trying to track down his target

The flcik has phenomenal pacing, chase/action sequences that are exhilerating and come from out of nowhere, smart writing, and brutal violence

And the weirdest, and perhaps coolest part, was that the entire score was done by WANG CHUNCG, and if you like synth-driven scores like I do, it's fucking great

[whynotsmile99]

I can't wait for the The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus

Did not know Tom Waits is playing the devil which is just great.

Reviews are bit mixed on Rottentomatoes right now. Variety gave it a very nice review

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=review&reviewid=VE1117940343&cs=1

[rage patton]

I had no idea Tom Waits was in it either. That is amazing. Funny, while Johnny Depp was in Vancouver, filming in place of Heath, it was reported that Depp and Tom Waits were spotted having dinner together. I don't know what I would have done if I ran into them together...

I was also simultaneously bummed that Tom Waits was in Vancouver and NOT performing. Last time he was here was in 2003 (maybe 2004) and did 2 sold out shows at a theatre here. I really wish I would have liked Tom Waits back then...

[MissingPerson]

Normal human minds can't even fathom what a conversation between Johnny Depp and Tom Waits would be like.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

I can't wait for the The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus

Did not know Tom Waits is playing the devil which is just great.

Reviews are bit mixed on Rottentomatoes right now. Variety gave it a very nice review

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=review&reviewid=VE1117940343&cs=1

have you seen Waits in "Wristcutters: a love story?" It's a lackluster film movie, but it's interesting enough, and Waits is great in it

Waits also is in in "Domino," which unfortunately is a lot worse than it ought to be

[MissingPerson]

Amazing to me that Domino failed as a movie. I mean, how that woman's life could be made un-awesome is beyond me.

We've come back to Richard Kelly again though.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

Amazing to me that Domino failed as a movie. I mean, how that woman's life could me made un-awesome is beyond me.

We've come back to Richard Kelly again though.

Well, Richard Kelly with a haphazard, pretentiously overblown script and Tony Scott trying to cut a two-hour film like an MTV-generation movie trailer

[sbessiso]

I liked Domino. But I only saw it once in the theater

[rage patton]

have you seen Waits in "Wristcutters: a love story?" It's a lackluster film movie, but it's interesting enough, and Waits is great in it

I loved Wristcutters.

Edit your post though... saying what Tom Waits role in the film is, kind of spoils it.

EDITED: I edited my quote of Drinkey to avoid spoilers.

[MissingPerson]

I liked Donnie Darko so very much that I'm desperate to believe it wasn't the product of complete fluke. This, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

[sbessiso]

I liked Donnie Darko so very much that I'm desperate to believe it wasn't the product of complete fluke. This, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I knooooooow. I'm desperately clutching at "Southland Tales" trying to enjoy it, im even going to give it another viewing. I wish the original director's cut existed somewhere

[MissingPerson]

Frankly, I've started dreading The Box just a little bit.

[rage patton]

Speaking of... has anyone seen S. Darko? Im really tempted to rent it, but I just know it is going to be terrible. Also, is anyone annoyed they called it "S. Darko" and not "Samantha Darko"?

[sbessiso]

Oh definitely. Cameron Diaz is in it :-/


Speaking of... has anyone seen S. Darko? Im really tempted to rent it, but I just know it is going to be terrible. Also, is anyone annoyed they called it "S. Darko" and not "Samantha Darko"?

I read a review of it saying that its actually much better than the usual direct to video sequel bullshit they release. They didnt say it was "good" exactly but it was a mostly favorable review

[MissingPerson]

Oh definitely. Cameron Diaz is in it :-/

Cameron Diaz and nobody else, according to the quite absurdly terrible poster.

http://www.clevver.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/the-box-cameron-diaz-poster.jpg


When you call your movie The Box (though it used to be called Button, Button, which isn’t much better), put Cameron Diaz on the poster, and put a big red slit down her face, it sends a pretty strong subliminal message. And that message is, “THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT PERIODS AND VAGINAS. IF YOU COME SEE THIS, CAMERON DIAZ IS GOING TO HAVE HER PERIOD ALL OVER YOUR FACE.”



Speaking of... has anyone seen S. Darko? Im really tempted to rent it, but I just know it is going to be terrible. Also, is anyone annoyed they called it "S. Darko" and not "Samantha Darko"?

It makes me say "Sadarko", and that makes the Ringu nerd within chuckle. And good God, it looks awful. Extra evil Frank...? Hmmm.

Is President Roslin in it? She was awesome in the first one.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

I loved Wristcutters.

Edit your post though... saying what Tom Waits role in the film is, kind of spoils it.

good call, sorry about that!

[iv3rdawG]

Just saw The Girlfriend Experience along with a Q&A with Sasha Grey. Not really sure what to think of it.

[sbessiso]

I saw the best fucking movie! "Smiley Face" starring Anna Faris and directed by Greg Araki is a comedy in which Faris plays a typical stoner who accidentally eats an entire batch of weed cupcakes. She then stumbles through LA going on crazy little adventures.

The movie hinges on Faris and she just knocks it out of the park! Shes unbelievably funny in this movie and the directing is really imaginative and quite playful plus there are a lot of little cameos here and there. I cannot recommend this movie enough!! GO RENT IT

http://www.filmcatcher.com/uploads/img/product/smileyface.jpg

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

i've had Smiley Face on my netflix queue for a while now, slowly working its way up. Greg Araki is so hit and miss with me, but I love Faris, and am very curious about what a comedy from Araki would be like

[wmgaretjax]

I can think of no single living director that deserves a palm d'or more than Haneke.

[vogina]

Just got done watching femme fetal again. Does anyone else think that the voice on the phone with Antonio Banderes answering it in a scene is Johnny Depp? He even answers with "John"

It just intrigued me is all.

[Down Rodeo]

I can think of no single living director that deserves a palm d'or more than Haneke.

Really? I figured you, of all people, would say Bela Tarr. But it's good to hear that Haneke's film (which sounds excellent) won. Hope it gets released here soon.

[wmgaretjax]

Really? I figured you, of all people, would say Bela Tarr. But it's good to hear that Haneke's film (which sounds excellent) won. Hope it gets released here soon.

Bela Tarr does too... But Haneke has made too many masterpieces to not have won one at some point in time. The Grand Prix for The Piano Teacher wasn't enough.

[iv3rdawG]

Charlotte Gainsbourg won best actress at Cannes for Antichrist.

[Hannahrain]

Not long into Jan Švankmajer's Alice, and I'm already pretty sure I will be sleeping with an eye half open and one hand clutching a plank of wood with a rusty nail through the top of it. This is why I shouldn't have Netflix instant.

[RotationSlimWang]

There is no fucking chance in hell that Greg Araki was involved with a good movie. Fail to the umpteenth power.

[ivankay]

i love mgmhd. Been checking out what i could to see what looks nice.

The Idolmaker is a missed classic. i have no idea why i don't hear more love for this fantastic movie. The songs rule. If this clip doesn't sell you on watching it at some point in your life, then i give up:

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[bug on your lip]

There is no fucking chance in hell that Greg Araki was involved with a good movie. Fail to the umpteenth power.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3569/3538317665_f069198eab.jpg

[wmgaretjax]

Not long into Jan Švankmajer's Alice, and I'm already pretty sure I will be sleeping with an eye half open and one hand clutching a plank of wood with a rusty nail through the top of it. This is why I shouldn't have Netflix instant.

I wonder if they have Svankmajer's Conspirators of Pleasure on Netflix... if so, I'm gonna watch that again tonight.

[amyzzz]

I saw Terminator Salvation last night, and I have to say I miss the pre-Batman Christian Bale. He really wasn't that good--that Australian guy was better. The action in the beginning was definitely entertaining, and I liked the kid who played, well, you-know-who's father. I also liked John Connor's girlfriend/wife, but the movie didn't really focus on the characters or the characters' stories all that much, just on the action.

[AlecEiffel]

Bale kinda phoned it in. It seems like he hasn't watched the other movies and he was playing a different character than the one we've seen in the last two movies. The robots looked cool though.

[Young blood]

From wired...

Streaming Hard-to-Find Films for Cinephiles
By Sonia Zjawinski Email 05.22.09

The average movie fan has been quick to embrace the convenience of streaming films from Netflix, iTunes, and Amazon.com. But for discerning cineasts, those libraries are too mainstream, the video quality is shabby, and the director's commentary (a crucial feature on DVDs) is notably absent. Enter TheAuteurs.com, a new Silicon Valley-based site that delivers video-on-demand for film buffs—from obscure international releases to up-and-coming flicks found only on the festival circuit—at $5 a pop. Through an exclusive partnership, Auteurs also provides access to the Criterion Collection's legendary archive of director's cuts and DVD extras.

The site's tech is as groundbreaking as the content it features. Unlike Apple, which requires iTunes, and Netflix, which relies on a third-party app, Auteurs sends compressed files to your browser's Flash plug-in for instant streams. What's more: Engineers work behind the scenes to boost the viewing experience, painstakingly tweaking the compression settings for each film with a tool chain that includes mplayer, x264, ffmpeg, and mp4box. They also add lush 5.1 Dolby surround sound. "Our office is a combination of film geeks and AV nerds," says Efe Cakarel, the company's founder. "Even if a film is available elsewhere, it's not going to be the same because of the expertise we've brought to encoding." For further quality control, a selection judge from the Venice Film Festival curates the library.

Auteurs currently offers 84 titles from 30 different countries and plans to expand its catalog to 1,000 films by the end of 2009. So while the celebrities are descending upon Cannes, film connoisseurs can kick back and wait for the art house to come to their living rooms.

[SoulDischarge]

About damned time.

[amyzzz]

Sweet!

[Hannahrain]

From wired...

Streaming Hard-to-Find Films for Cinephiles
By Sonia Zjawinski Email 05.22.09

The average movie fan has been quick to embrace the convenience of streaming films from Netflix, iTunes, and Amazon.com. But for discerning cineasts, those libraries are too mainstream, the video quality is shabby, and the director's commentary (a crucial feature on DVDs) is notably absent. Enter TheAuteurs.com, a new Silicon Valley-based site that delivers video-on-demand for film buffs—from obscure international releases to up-and-coming flicks found only on the festival circuit—at $5 a pop. Through an exclusive partnership, Auteurs also provides access to the Criterion Collection's legendary archive of director's cuts and DVD extras.

The site's tech is as groundbreaking as the content it features. Unlike Apple, which requires iTunes, and Netflix, which relies on a third-party app, Auteurs sends compressed files to your browser's Flash plug-in for instant streams. What's more: Engineers work behind the scenes to boost the viewing experience, painstakingly tweaking the compression settings for each film with a tool chain that includes mplayer, x264, ffmpeg, and mp4box. They also add lush 5.1 Dolby surround sound. "Our office is a combination of film geeks and AV nerds," says Efe Cakarel, the company's founder. "Even if a film is available elsewhere, it's not going to be the same because of the expertise we've brought to encoding." For further quality control, a selection judge from the Venice Film Festival curates the library.

Auteurs currently offers 84 titles from 30 different countries and plans to expand its catalog to 1,000 films by the end of 2009. So while the celebrities are descending upon Cannes, film connoisseurs can kick back and wait for the art house to come to their living rooms.

They've also got films priced at $2, and some that are free. Not sure why that isn't mentioned here.

[caco0283]

Go sign the "No Buffy the Vampire Slayer Without Joss Whedon" petition

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/a-joss-less-buf.html

[roberto73]

Want proof that Hollywood's officially out of good ideas? Look no further:



'Battleship' may have a captain
Peter Berg in talks to direct adaptation of board game
By Borys Kit
May 17, 2009, 11:00 PM ET

Peter Berg may be crying out "You sank my battleship!"

The filmmaker is in talks to direct a big-screen version of the Hasbro board game for Universal. Brothers Jon and Erich Hoeber have signed on to write the script.

The game, which began in pencil and paper form in the early 20th century and is now available on platforms from cell phones to computers, consists of two players arranging a variety of ships on a grid. The game proceeds in alternating salvos as players try to "sink" the opposition's ships by guessing where they sit on the grid.

While plot details are being kept below deck, the studio is looking to make an epic naval action adventure.

Brian Goldner and Bennett Schneir are producing for Hasbro. Dylan Clark and Anikah McLaren are overseeing for the studio.

Endeavor-repped Berg, who most recently directed "Hancock," has made several movies for Universal, including "The Kingdom," "Friday Night Lights" and "The Rundown."

The brothers Hoeber wrote "Whiteout," the upcoming Kate Beckinsale thriller based on the comic book, and penned Summit's comic-book adaptation "Red," which has Bruce Willis is in talks to star. The duo are repped by Endeavor and the Cheng Caplan Co.

Universal has several board game titles in development as part of its six-year deal with Hasbro. "Ouija Board" is being produced by Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes shingle, "Candy Land" has Kevin Lima attached to direct with Etan Cohen writing the script, and Ridley Scott is developing a project based on "Monopoly."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i9ffdbbfa915bd89c57a661db36154a27?imw=Y

[chairmenmeow47]

terminator 4 was awful. of course that was to be expected, but it wasn't even ha-ha awful and there wasn't one awesome scene of machine violence on humans like the sword through the milk carton or anything :(

*SPOILER*

why did the ending have to be a re-hash of the T2 battle. fighting in an abandonded looking factory? the terminator pretending to be the good guy to lure connor to him (UMM, HELLO, REMEMBER THE T-1000 IN T2 JOHN?!?!??!)? and why on earth did connor try to save the terminator, only for connor to get stabbed and the terminator to die to give john it's heart. so fucking lame. i was quite angry at the ending.

also, why did skynet need to have a voice? i liked skynet much better as this faceless enemy where we didn't know how it all worked, but just that it was after us at any cost. and why does skynet have desks? elevators? offices? do machines need these things?

blah, what a piece of shit movie.

i also watched an old movie called "three strangers" this weekend with peter lorre. it was about three strangers who win a chance at fortune together, but ultimately fuck it up. it was entertaining, but not a quality film by any stretch.

and i'm holding out for yahtzee the movie :p

[SoulDischarge]

Clue is a fucking masterpiece. Well, it's fun anyway.

[real talk]

Want proof that Hollywood's officially out of good ideas? Look no further:



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i9ffdbbfa915bd89c57a661db36154a27?imw=Y

I'd rather see live action Scrabble.

[SoulDischarge]

I'd rather see live action Scrabble.

Someone seriously made this as a short at my film school. It was something like a couple were playing Scrabble, and one of them had poisoned the other one, and the words they played were relevant to the events as they progressed. It was as terrible as it sounds.

[real talk]

I'd watch it.

[wmgaretjax]

I saw Moon last night. Quite good. Sam Rockwell was fantastic, the film was gorgeous, script could have been better, but the acting carried it... Unfortunately Clint Mansell was brought on to do another typical heavy handed ridiculous score. the film didn't need a soundtrack, Rockwell carried it fine on his own. Oh well. Well worth seeing.

I also saw the ATP documentary. Good stuff. Not worth going out of your way for unless you are a festival junkie, but it was a blast.

Also saw the film Bronson, which was way more experimental than I expected. Totally flawed film, but with some really brilliant moments. Opened with Scott Walker, which is always a plus in my book.

[AlecEiffel]

why did the ending have to be a re-hash of the T2 battle. fighting in an abandonded looking factory? the terminator pretending to be the good guy to lure connor to him (UMM, HELLO, REMEMBER THE T-1000 IN T2 JOHN?!?!??!)?

Probably for the same reason that the ending of T2 was a rehash of the climax of the first one.

Also, does anyone else thinks it's weird that Connor doesn't react at all when he sees Arnold? Don't you think he would be taken aback for at least a second?

[rage patton]

Also, does anyone else thinks it's weird that Connor doesn't react at all when he sees Arnold? Don't you think he would be taken aback for at least a second?

Yes. I noticed this and was bothered by it as well.

SPOILER (kind of)

Also, the movie made it clear John did not trust ANY machines. However, in T2, the Terminator came back to save him... so he knows there is at least one machine he can trust. Why was it so hard for him to trust Marcus? I found that a little stupid.

[chairmenmeow47]

also, why are only some machines "aware" or controlled by skynet. why can the resistance send radio frequencies, use subs, aircraft, etc. why doesn't skynet control those machines?!

[stinkbutt]

Those machines don't have AI?

[whynotsmile99]

also, why are only some machines "aware" or controlled by skynet. why can the resistance send radio frequencies, use subs, aircraft, etc. why doesn't skynet control those machines?!

spoilers

i really hated the pretty pilot and Macus and their little "thing" going on. She's a resistance fighter fighting machines that destroyed the whole world, she meets a man, spend a few days together, discovers he's half machine and she just all of a sudden turns her back to the resistance and destroys their shit and helps a machine escape?

ridiculous. some good action scenes, i'll give it that, but terrible weak story. lame o ending

[chairmenmeow47]

yes, and what was worse is the cliche apocolypse rape scene that almost ensued, ugh. they couldn't even make THAT entertaining. i think my mom and i were talking shit through that whole scene, lol.

[sbessiso]

Did they ever explain why Skynet was taking all those human prisoners back to their base?

I still enjoyed the movie, I don't know what the hell you guys were expecting from a 4th Terminator movie directed by McG but this was probably the most action packed movie I have ever seen. Maybe you guys should have eaten a brownie beforehand like me :D

[C DUB YA]

Did they ever explain why Skynet was taking all those human prisoners back to their base?

I still enjoyed the movie, I don't know what the hell you guys were expecting from a 4th Terminator movie directed by McG but this was probably the most action packed movie I have ever seen. Maybe you guys should have eaten a brownie beforehand like me :D

I'm pretty sure it was to make more terminators with living tissue over their robotic skeletons.

Overall I found the movie just ok - not the worst thing I've seen this year, certainly no where near the top either.

[schoolofruckus]

I watched John Cassavetes' Gloria the other night. It was really only worth seeing if you're a Cassavetes completionist and/or you enjoy Gena Rowlands in just about anything. I fit both qualifications, so I liked it okay. I also liked how liberal Cassavetes was with the Steadicam usage; you can tell that he was really excited about the liberties it would afford him in terms of following his actors around without having to use constrictive blocking to make the shots look good.

Sweet mother of mercy, though...the kid who plays the Puerto Rican boy that Gloria has to protect was seriously the WORST actor of all time. I read before watching it that Gena got an Oscar nom and the kid got a Razzie - which seemed impossible for anyone in a Cassavetes film. But by jove, he earned that fucking thing.

[chairmenmeow47]

i think the only reason skynet took the prisoners was to lure john. other than that, it doesn't make any sense.

action packed? hardly. could have definitely used more action. i can't think of one badass scene equivalent to the sword through the milk carton or anything like that. i would have been more entertained with some action.

[sbessiso]

MORE action? Are you kidding me? That car chase that turned into a plane chase was incredible

[seandlr]

Last night I saw tarintino's Death Proof. I really liked it, its short but still a good film

[AlecEiffel]

i think the only reason skynet took the prisoners was to lure john. other than that, it doesn't make any sense.

action packed? hardly. could have definitely used more action. i can't think of one badass scene equivalent to the sword through the milk carton or anything like that. i would have been more entertained with some action.

I'm pretty sure the intention was to make more Marcus like Terminators. I'm assuming T-800 (Arnold) is an early attempt at recreating the Marcus experiment?

[Blinken]

Universal has several board game titles in development as part of its six-year deal with Hasbro. "Ouija Board" is being produced by Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes shingle, "Candy Land" has Kevin Lima attached to direct with Etan Cohen writing the script, and Ridley Scott is developing a project based on "Monopoly."

Jesus fucking chirst.

I am gonna start writting a screen play for Hungry Hungry Hippos. Action/Adventure movie set in the heart of Africa.

[chairmenmeow47]

I'm pretty sure the intention was to make more Marcus like Terminators. I'm assuming T-800 (Arnold) is an early attempt at recreating the Marcus experiment?

perhaps they need the human tissue for that, that's a possibility. arnold was cyberdyne model 101, so i am curious as to why they kept talking about t-800s. i think arnold is the prototype for the model 101 and not the t-800, cause in salvation we hear a broadcast from connor where he talks about how to fight the 800s.

it's all pretty ridiculous. and i was ok with all of that before seeing the movie, but man, they couldn't even add any fun violence. no pulling giant truckers out of their trucks, no throwing people out of helicopters, nothing. i think terminators are a lot more hilarious when they are sent back in time and no one knows they are a terminator, lol.

[stinkbutt]

They said in film they were collecting them for human tissue

[chairmenmeow47]

ah, so skynet destroyed all stem cell research on judgment day i guess :p

[bremex]

Movies I've watched ine the last 2 weeks (I got a blu ray dvd)

Star Wars, ALL 6 OF'EM- (I am a Star Wars geek)

American Psycho- I love Christian Bale

Nicholas Nickelby- (I prefer Charlie Hunnam being tough and sexy like in Green Street) It was 2 am so it was a chill movie

Valkyrie- I love War movies, this didn't have "action" but the plot was pretty good.

Lion King- I don't get tired of watching this (plus my niece was visiting)

The Perfect Man- Me and my friend were stoned and we found this movie between her old stuff. RUBBISH.

Snatch & Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels- My 2 favourite movies, fucking awesome.

Casino Royale- I'm fucking renting Quantum of Solance, I loved ths movie is the first time I've seen it.

Wimbledon- I'm not into romantic comedies, but I adore Paul Bettany.

I'm watching 21 gramms tonight (I haven't seen it in forever)


Next weekend, Lord of The Rings trilogy!!!! btw, are they out on blu ray yet?????

[AlecEiffel]

arnold was cyberdyne model 101, so i am curious as to why they kept talking about t-800s. i think arnold is the prototype for the model 101 and not the t-800, cause in salvation we hear a broadcast from connor where he talks about how to fight the 800s.


Good thing I'm a dork and can answer this. Arnold is a T-800 model 101. The T-800 refers to the skeletal system, the actual robot stuff, where as model 101 is the Arnold skin costume it is wearing.

[chairmenmeow47]

Good thing I'm a dork and can answer this. Arnold is a T-800 model 101. The T-800 refers to the skeletal system, the actual robot stuff, where as model 101 is the Arnold skin costume it is wearing.

THANK YOU! i was really confused by this :thu

[Mr.Nipples]

http://www.collider.com/2009/05/27/bad-lieutenant-port-of-call-new-orleans-unofficial-trailer/

[SoulDischarge]

I'm so glad Nick Cage is back to playing batshit insane roles. That's about the only thing he can pull off convincingly.

[schoolofruckus]

Yeah....Port of Call looks like a fucking awesome cult film waiting to happen.

[schoolofruckus]

I watched The Girlfriend Experience tonight. I liked it a lot. It's got more to it than what's on the surface; even the obvious subtext (the analogy of the artist as a call girl searching for "progress" in her career while trying to maintain a complex balance with normal life) is given some nice shading that wasn't immediately apparent. The movie definitely would have benefited from a stronger lead actress, though. Sasha Grey's detached, monotonous demeanor fits her role for the most part, even in the sense that her character's dual selves are blurring, but the movie would have been even stronger if there was more dynamicism to her personality. I also feel like Soderbergh could have gotten a little closer to her, but I think the lack of introspection may have been something of an indictment. Which is maybe more interesting.

Anyway....I'd recommend it to anyone who likes micro-Soderberghs (such as Bubble). Or anyone who wants to see further proof of how stunning the Red camera can be (the depth of field here, even for such a small-scale picture, is fucking astounding).

[tessalasset]

gay

[tessalasset]

hahaha ps how long has your thing said Brentwood? i just noticed that.

[tessalasset]

pps you can't say Brentwood, CA unless you're talking about the Brentwood up north.

[ivankay]

Up is wonderful, imaginative, touching and amzing to look at (i saw it in 3D....nice!). Great movie.

[CuervoPH]

I am seeing Up and Drag Me To Hell on Sunday. I don't think the theater I'm going to offers Up in 3-D though.

[ivankay]

i'm sure it will still look great in 2D. There was a special trailer before the movie started that caused the theater to erupt into applause. Not saying what it is, but imagine what would make a bunch of die hard Pixar fans at a midnight screening super happy. The short before Up is another winner too.

[sbessiso]

Toy Story 3?

[algunz]

Do you have any suggestions for classic 70's movies that would be appropriate to show an 8th grade class? In other words it's got to be "PG-13." And not Star Wars, they've all seen it. I want to show a movie that they would probably never see on their own.

My yearbook class has kind of turned into a Film History class, because they have finished all their deadlines. So far they have seen City Lights, Gone with the Wind, Stagecoach, Vertigo, and Bonnie and Clyde.

[indietron]

Toy Story 3?

It HAS to be, which is ridiculously awesome :)

[rage patton]

Oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Now I want to go see Up RIGHT NOW! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Toy Story is my favorite movie of all time.

[sbessiso]

The teaser trailer is online now. Its wayyy cute

[rage patton]

I DONT WANT TO SEE IT YET!

[Young blood]

fuck toy story. Im excited to see UP tomorrow.

[indietron]

I DONT WANT TO SEE IT YET!

Me neither! It needs to be on the big screen first.

[rage patton]

Fuck. I just realized there are 3 movies that came out this weekend that I want to see.

[sbessiso]

DRAG ME TO HELL

has my top priority. Sam Raimi back to kick ass horror makes my shorts oh so wet. I'll see "Up" next weekish

[rage patton]

Drag Me To Hell? Seriously?

I wanna see Up, Land of The Lost and The Hangover.

[amyzzz]

I want to see Drag Me to Hell and Up.

[bug on your lip]

fuck toy story. Im excited to see UP tomorrow.

http://i4.tinypic.com/2qjww93.jpg

[stinkbutt]

Drag Me To Hell is beyond amazing funniest movie I've seen in probably 3 years or so

[sbessiso]

Drag Me To Hell? Seriously?

I wanna see Up, Land of The Lost and The Hangover.

Land of the Lost and The Hangover both look great but those arent out yet.

and FUCK YESSSSSS "Drag Me To Hell". I'm a Raimi fanboy, seeing him go back to his roots is wonderful.....


Drag Me To Hell is beyond amazing funniest movie I've seen in probably 3 years or so

See why? His brand of horror comedy is top notch.

Have you ever seen "The Evil Dead Trilogy", ragey???

[amyzzz]

Jacob has been wearing his Evil Dead/Army of Darkness shirts all week. (probably a coincidence though)

[rage patton]

Land of the Lost and The Hangover both look great but those arent out yet.

and FUCK YESSSSSS "Drag Me To Hell". I'm a Raimi fanboy, seeing him go back to his roots is wonderful.....



See why? His brand of horror comedy is top notch.

Have you ever seen "The Evil Dead Trilogy", ragey???

Oh shit... I just realized Land of The Lost and The Hangover come out next week. Nevermind.

Sam Raimi did the Evil Dead Trilogy? Really? I've actually never seen them, but I have heard nothing but good things. Maybe Drag Me To Hell will be good then.

[stinkbutt]

Drag Me To Hell was the best horror movie I've seen since 28 Days Later and probably the funniest movie in a few years

[SoulDischarge]

Is this something we can attribute to you being Canadian, or were you just home schooled?

[rage patton]

Drag Me To Hell was the best horror movie I've seen since 28 Days Later and probably the funniest movie in a few years

I loved 28 Days later.

You guys have convinced me. I want to see Drag Me To Hell now.


Is this something we can attribute to you being Canadian, or were you just home schooled?

Not seeing the Evil Dead Trilogy? Probably neither. I don't really have an excuse.

[SoulDischarge]

Yeah. I'm going to go see that shit today. I haven't been to a movie since either Coraline or Rachel Getting Married. I forget which one was most recent, but either way it's been too long.

[roberto73]

Do you have any suggestions for classic 70's movies that would be appropriate to show an 8th grade class? In other words it's got to be "PG-13." And not Star Wars, they've all seen it. I want to show a movie that they would probably never see on their own.

My yearbook class has kind of turned into a Film History class, because they have finished all their deadlines. So far they have seen City Lights, Gone with the Wind, Stagecoach, Vertigo, and Bonnie and Clyde.

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969), The Sting (1973), and Woody Allen's Sleeper (1973) are the first three that come to mind. You could also use Allen's Love and Death (1975), but I don't know how much of the humor 8th graders would catch.

[sbessiso]

He also directed "Darkman". A terribly, terribly underrated movie and has Liam Neeson at maybe his most badass (havent seen "Taken" yet)

[algunz]

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969), The Sting (1973), and Woody Allen's Sleeper (1973) are the first three that come to mind. You could also use Allen's Love and Death (1975), but I don't know how much of the humor 8th graders would catch.

I thought of Butch Cassidy too. But I wanted to show them a different genre. What about Close Encounters?

[seandlr]

Can anyone help me by explaining to me what the meaning was of the last 5 minutes of virgin suicides? Pleasee

[wmgaretjax]

they killed themselves... the virgins.

[amyzzz]

...hence the title of the movie.

[seandlr]

Nooooo. The party or whatever it was with everyone wearing the gas masks

[seandlr]

I was actually reffering to the party or whatever it was with everyone wearing the gas masks

[schoolofruckus]

No dude, you don't understand. The virgins killed themselves.

[amyzzz]

Don't you love movies that have spoilers in their titles?

[JustSteve]

Just went to see "Up" with the family, cute movie, was awesome in 3D...

[seandlr]

No dude, you don't understand. The virgins killed themselves.
Lol. I know. But seriously, the segment after we find out the virgins killed themselves, what the significance

[SoulDischarge]

I will tell you what that scene meant. But only if you do something for me in trade: write a ten page essay explaining the symbolism used in Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain. Cite references. You have 24 hours.

[seandlr]

I will tell you what that scene meant. But only if you do something for me in trade: write a ten page essay explaining the symbolism used in Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain. Cite references. You have 24 hours.

At font size 45, no problem

[SoulDischarge]

So, Drag Me To Hell is fun enough to see once, but I wasn't really impressed. It's no Evil Dead 2, that's for sure. The plot and characters and acting and score and etc. were all standard issue Hollywood horror movie, so we can just ignore those. The main reason to see a Sam Raimi horror movie is for the ridiculous over the top set pieces. And while there were a few decent ones, for the most part they were a disappointment. The movie relied way too much on the old sudden loud noises + spooky shit flying at the camera technique. Yeah, we get it, it's not really scary and it's certainly not inventive. And maybe this is just me, but I still think CGI effects look corny and unconvincing, and not in the fun way that the stop motion effects in the Evil Dead series does. There was some entertaining gross out scenes and the whole thing didn't take itself too seriously, but I don't feel like I ever want to see it again. You'll probably enjoy yourself if you go in expecting a lightweight typical mainstream horror-comedy and not a cult classic that slid past the studios somehow.

[SoulDischarge]

And I don't think I'm going to see a movie in a chain theater ever again if I can help it. Fucking shit is way too overpriced to get skull fucked by obnoxious advertisements and previews for shitty movies. I only see movies in the theater about 3 times a year, and every time I make the mistake of showing up a couple minutes early and I end up angry and exhausted before the movie even begins. I seriously thought about getting a refund about half way through the previews.

[schoolofruckus]

Where did you see it?

Even most of the great theaters are related to a chain somehow (Landmark and Laemmle theaters are pretty great, and even the two Arclights are owned by Pacific). But in terms of megaplexes, I'm with you all the way. I do everything I can to avoid the AMC's of the world.

[SoulDischarge]

Yeah. I meant megaplex, not chain.

[schoolofruckus]

I watched Spartacus this morning, in the interest of completing my viewing of Kubrick's filmography. It was one of the lesser Criterion entries -and easily the worst Kubrick film - I've ever seen. Reading about it afterward, it makes sense that it turned out this way, as it's described as the only film Kubrick had no real creative control over. But it's got virtually nothing in common with his other work. It's the visual epitome of meat-and-potatoes, the score is awful (and awfully employed), there are technical errors galore (student-film-level lighting discrepancies in nearly every scene), and worst of all, the whole thing is just fucking dull. I liked Tony Curtis, but the rest of the acting was abysmal. There's nothing emotionally or intellectually interesting about any of it. I'm glad I got this one out of the way, but it is not to be revisited.

[tessalasset]

it made me cry when i watched it in 7th grade.

[tessalasset]

i'm off to the mtv movie awards right now. cross your fingers i'll get to meet robert pattinson again!

[JustSteve]

And I don't think I'm going to see a movie in a chain theater ever again if I can help it. Fucking shit is way too overpriced to get skull fucked by obnoxious advertisements and previews for shitty movies. I only see movies in the theater about 3 times a year, and every time I make the mistake of showing up a couple minutes early and I end up angry and exhausted before the movie even begins. I seriously thought about getting a refund about half way through the previews.

i'm fortunate i had gift cards...and the amc near us has $6 tickets for shows before noon fri-sun. but even then, 3D was $9 a ticket x 3, food was probably $20 for 3 of us, too, of course we went a little overboard since we weren't really paying for it. so basically $50 for 2 adults and one child to see a matinee with a running time of ~90 minutes. i can pretty much buy a one year pass to the long beach aquarium for that much and get way more joy out of the money.

[ivankay]

I watched Spartacus this morning, in the interest of completing my viewing of Kubrick's filmography..... It's the visual epitome of meat-and-potatoes, the score is awful (and awfully employed), there are technical errors galore (student-film-level lighting discrepancies in nearly every scene), and worst of all, the whole thing is just fucking dull. .

i'd love to see the student film from 1960 that looks like Spartacus. Or are you applying a standard for student films that is 49 years after the fact? i'm curious what films from that era rock your boat. Seems like an unfair criticism (like baggin on Jan and Dean for not having the production value of an Animal Collective record).

Personally i love Spartacus. i understand why Mr. Kubrick distanced himself from the film, but even as a hired gun, he pushed the medium of the Roman epic a little bit further and made a huge film that has influenced movie makers and viewers then and up to today. i'm absolutely emotionally affected by Spartucs, the struggle for freedom against Rome and the devotion Varinia and the slaves have for him and each other ("I'm Spartacus" will be famous after we're dead...why? Because other people are emotionally affected by it). Kubrick and the cast kick ass in conveying story without words many times in the film. The action sequences are top notch for the day.

Sorry you didn't enjoy or respect it. Like all big movies, i believe they should be seen on a Big Screen. Spartacus will be playing at the Arclight Sherman Oaks on June 15th (Monday) at 7:30PM. (https://www.arclightcinemas.com/ArcLight/faces/MovieDetails.jsp?movieName=AFI+100s%26%2358%3B+SPA RTACUS&pageInfo=AFI) If you haven't seen it or are a fan, check it out.

[wmgaretjax]

Spartacus is an awful film. I don't think Gabe was saying the whole thing looks like a student film, rather that it makes elementary mistakes that are absolutely inexcusable. And yes, these are not mistakes you find in other good (even non-studio) films of the period.

The worst part is that the film is rife with cliche and sensationalism, and that is exactly the reason why Kubrick fucking abhorred it.

[ivankay]

Most films have mistakes, but the mistakes in Spartacus aren't really coming to mind. Like what? Why are they inexcusable?

[wmgaretjax]

the worst of all is the lighting... besides being atrocious, it constantly changes between edits. a lot of the art direction suffers from similar issues. i remember seeing tennis shoes and other out of place artifacts in the film. Ultimately the film just feels sloppy.

wait... here's a list...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054331/goofs

[ivankay]

the worst of all is the lighting... besides being atrocious, it constantly changes between edits. a lot of the art direction suffers from similar issues. i remember seeing tennis shoes and other out of place artifacts in the film. Ultimately the film just feels sloppy.

wait... here's a list...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054331/goofs

Those are pretty classic. The wrist watch one is legend. i'll throw out the excuse of a director getting fired a week into a huge production that was almost an independent film with a monster budget by the standards of 1960 (independent because of Douglas being the main force behind it...studio would have crushed the Trumbo credit). Considering all they had against their production, i'll say they did a pretty great job. If only we all could make such "awful" movies.

i'm also interested in reading the interview with Kubrick where he goes over the reasons he abhorred Spartacus. i know he did not like the lack of creative control he had on a Kirk Douglas production that was in full mode before Anthony Mann was fired and he was brought on board. i've read a few interviews, but don't recall one where he says the film is "rife with cliche and sensationalism" (although those 2 things are usually in most tent pole films).

[wmgaretjax]

I'll track down the interview. If I remember right, it was one of the interviews he did with Jeremy Bernstein... So I'll dig through my PDFs and find it. His words weren't as harsh as mine of course, but his attitude towards the film was still direct.

[ivankay]

Thanks. i look forward to reading it.

Oh, saw "Drag Me to Hell" last night. i thought it was great. i loved the way sound was used (reminded me a lot of the Haunting...original). Good scares/jumps. Creepy story. Loved the opening credits. Alison Lohamn is super pretty and use of her was giving me that Hitchcock vibe. i would like to see this again.

[wmgaretjax]

I also saw Drag Me to Hell, and it accomplishes exactly what it sets out too. I also thought the sound design was excellent, probably the best aspect of the movie. I love a movie that can make me jump in my seat and laugh hysterically in the same beat.

[SoulDischarge]

I think I must be alone in my apathy for Drag Me To Hell. Maybe it was just a case of heightened expectations. I hadn't seen trailers, just read rave reviews calling it Evil Dead 4.

I've been trying to catch up with anime lately, since I never really gave it much of a chance in the past, so in the last few days I've watched Grave Of The Fireflies and Metropolis. Both were fantastic in their own ways, and had a lot to distinguish them from typical anime. The animation and city design in Metropolis blew me away.

Other stuff I've watched recently:

The Terminator for the first time. Don't ask me how I went 23 years of my life without seeing it.

Dogfight. Movie about River Phoenix as a jarhead taking Lili Taylor to a "dogfight," where the guy with the ugliest date wins, set in the 60s. It was ok, but not too memorable. Good acting, some nice moments.

The Son. This is the first Dardenne film I've seen, and while it's hard for me to sit through movies this austere, it's still really impressive. If it was any less simple, it wouldn't be nearly as effective.

Milk. I liked it a lot. Penn was great. It was a pretty standard biography, and the most straight forward Van Sant movie I've seen in awhile, but it wasn't over the top or pandering or too obvious, which is about all I can hope for from mainstream American movies these days.

[schoolofruckus]

i'd love to see the student film from 1960 that looks like Spartacus. Or are you applying a standard for student films that is 49 years after the fact? i'm curious what films from that era rock your boat. Seems like an unfair criticism (like baggin on Jan and Dean for not having the production value of an Animal Collective record).


Since you (strangely) seem to think this is a period bias, I'll list a few films I love from 1960 and before:

Paths of Glory
The Killing
(Note: The fact that Kubrick had two GREAT films before Spartacus invalidates any claim that it sucks because of the time period it was made in.)
L'Avventura (This is in my top 30 films ever.)
La Strada
Citizen Kane
The Maltese Falcon
The Rules of the Game
Shadows

The lesson here - I'm not Randy.


Personally i love Spartacus. i understand why Mr. Kubrick distanced himself from the film, but even as a hired gun, he pushed the medium of the Roman epic a little bit further and made a huge film that has influenced movie makers and viewers then and up to today. i'm absolutely emotionally affected by Spartucs, the struggle for freedom against Rome and the devotion Varinia and the slaves have for him and each other ("I'm Spartacus" will be famous after we're dead...why? Because other people are emotionally affected by it). Kubrick and the cast kick ass in conveying story without words many times in the film. The action sequences are top notch for the day.


That's funny, because the film I saw contained scene after scene of poorly-worded, overacted exposition, and dialogue exchanges that mean nothing. The oysters-and-snails chat was hilarious in how superfluous it is, because the homoerotic implications are to no real end.

The action scenes paled in comparison to those in Paths of Glory.


the worst of all is the lighting... besides being atrocious, it constantly changes between edits. a lot of the art direction suffers from similar issues. i remember seeing tennis shoes and other out of place artifacts in the film. Ultimately the film just feels sloppy.

wait... here's a list...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054331/goofs

Thank you. The lighting errors were what I was referring to in regards to the "student film" crack. I know from experience, my movie had plenty of them. But Spartacus was WAY more egregious in this regard; it was nearly every cut during scenes that were interior, or where there was any source of shade. And it's not that these kinds of things ruin films; I've seen plenty of good movies with bad production values (Shadows in particular). But it's especially egregious in a Kubrick film because he's usually much more detail-oriented - and also, in a film that's not holding my attention very well.


Those are pretty classic. The wrist watch one is legend. i'll throw out the excuse of a director getting fired a week into a huge production that was almost an independent film with a monster budget by the standards of 1960 (independent because of Douglas being the main force behind it...studio would have crushed the Trumbo credit). Considering all they had against their production, i'll say they did a pretty great job. If only we all could make such "awful" movies.

i'm also interested in reading the interview with Kubrick where he goes over the reasons he abhorred Spartacus. i know he did not like the lack of creative control he had on a Kirk Douglas production that was in full mode before Anthony Mann was fired and he was brought on board. i've read a few interviews, but don't recall one where he says the film is "rife with cliche and sensationalism" (although those 2 things are usually in most tent pole films).

Like I said up front, I understand in hindsight that Kubrick's hands were tied to an extent on this movie. I have a feeling the master - widely thought to be an atheist - was aghast when he finished his cut and realized that Kirk Douglas had tricked him into making a Jesus-figure film (according to that IMDB list of goofs, Spartacus' body was never found....whose idea do you think the gratuitous crucifixion was?). I'm sure Kubrick did all he could do with it. It's just a shame that so little of his voice made it into the film.

I also understand the film's influence on its genre and the general scope of Hollywood productions going forward. Am I really supposed to kowtow simply because Spartacus' sandal footsteps were eventually retreaded by the likes of Braveheart, Gladiator, and before that, a string of Charlton Heston Biblical epics?

[schoolofruckus]

The Son. This is the first Dardenne film I've seen, and while it's hard for me to sit through movies this austere, it's still really impressive. If it was any less simple, it wouldn't be nearly as effective.


You should check out L'Enfant. It's slightly more narratively compelling, although still very much in the same aesthetic. I say this as someone who likes The Son very much and LOVES L'Enfant.

[SoulDischarge]

I was actually considering throwing that in right now. I have a bad tendency to get distracted and not finish films in one viewing though, so who knows if I'll make it through it.

[ivankay]

Since you (strangely) seem to think this is a period bias, I'll list a few films I love from 1960 and before:

Paths of Glory
The Killing
(Note: The fact that Kubrick had two GREAT films before Spartacus invalidates any claim that it sucks because of the time period it was made in.)
L'Avventura (This is in my top 30 films ever.)
La Strada
Citizen Kane
The Maltese Falcon
The Rules of the Game
Shadows

The lesson here - I'm not Randy.

Anything in color? Since the discussion of lighting issues seems to be the main slam, what films from that era shot in color rock your boat? All these films you have selected (excluding Shadows...haven't seen it yet), i would place higher than Spartacus in the favorites category. i didn't think you had period bias, btw. i was just wondering what type of films from that time you like. Looks like you don't have much love for the big epics. That's cool. To each their own.

Randy has period bias? i thought he likes a lot of older films.




That's funny, because the film I saw contained scene after scene of poorly-worded, overacted exposition, and dialogue exchanges that mean nothing. The oysters-and-snails chat was hilarious in how superfluous it is, because the homoerotic implications are to no real end.

The action scenes paled in comparison to those in Paths of Glory.

Well it does motivate Antoninus to get the fuck out of there and join the slaves. Kubrick did get in some scenes that were more dependent on the silence of the players. One scene that comes to mind is in the holding cell before the first gladiator fight for Spartacus (good lighting in that scene too).






Thank you. The lighting errors were what I was referring to in regards to the "student film" crack. I know from experience, my movie had plenty of them. But Spartacus was WAY more egregious in this regard; it was nearly every cut during scenes that were interior, or where there was any source of shade. And it's not that these kinds of things ruin films; I've seen plenty of good movies with bad production values (Shadows in particular). But it's especially egregious in a Kubrick film because he's usually much more detail-oriented - and also, in a film that's not holding my attention very well.

It happens. Big ass film that shot for almost half a year is bound to have those continuity errors in lighting, but i don't think it is as bad as you're making it out to be. Maybe we should try to make a date on the 15th so i can look at it again (if not, you got me motivated to see it in some way or another to look for these errors to happen "nearly every cut")




Like I said up front, I understand in hindsight that Kubrick's hands were tied to an extent on this movie. I have a feeling the master - widely thought to be an atheist - was aghast when he finished his cut and realized that Kirk Douglas had tricked him into making a Jesus-figure film (according to that IMDB list of goofs, Spartacus' body was never found....whose idea do you think the gratuitous crucifixion was?). I'm sure Kubrick did all he could do with it. It's just a shame that so little of his voice made it into the film.

i doubt he was aghast. He shot the scenes after all. Did he think they weren't going to make it into the cut? Kubrick wasn't tricked. Maybe he saw it as the stepping stone it ended up being for him. If he didn't make Spartacus, he couldn't have been in the position he was to make his next batch of films. As much as he did not like the results, i'm sure he recognized what it did for his career. Seeing the version he wanted to make of course would have been amazing (he wanted more battles to convey the distance and time of the slaves' fight better).


I also understand the film's influence on its genre and the general scope of Hollywood productions going forward. Am I really supposed to kowtow simply because Spartacus' sandal footsteps were eventually retreaded by the likes of Braveheart, Gladiator, and before that, a string of Charlton Heston Biblical epics?

Nope. You can do whatever you like. i know why i like em'. They were part of my film exposure as a kid. i love the scale. i love the saturated technicolor. i enjoy the overwrought and intense acting of the time. Those and other things. i'm not a sucker for every bible and sandal film (The Robe blows), but i like more than a few.

[schoolofruckus]

Anything in color?

Since the discussion of lighting issues seems to be the main slam, what films from that era shot in color rock your boat? All these films you have selected (excluding Shadows...haven't seen it yet), i would place higher than Spartacus in the favorites category. i didn't think you had period bias, btw. i was just wondering what type of films from that time you like. Looks like you don't have much love for the big epics. That's cool. To each their own.

Touche. I guess, apart from The Wizard of Oz, I can't think of many color films before 1960 that I really loved. But there were many during the early 60's that I think are fucking mind-blowing (Antonioni's The Red Desert and Fellini's Juliet of the Spirits are two of the most divine color pallets ever filmed).

I'm not inherently against epics, although the more time passes I guess I am becoming less and less interested in them. I'm one of the bigger Titanic fans on here, though. I don't even hate Gladiator (it's fine....if you throw out the Oscars, I don't really have much to object to) or Braveheart (this one I have problems with, but it's not worthless). As a general rule, I guess I would say that ancient period films have to work harder to be good; it's not that I'm uninterested in those settings, but there has to be a reason behind it rather than just re-telling a "classic" story for entertainment value. Andrei Rublev was excellent. I'm scanning the rest of my DVD shelf as I thype this and I'm not seeing much else. Oh, Ran. That film's amazing. Scarface is kind of an epic.


Randy has period bias? i thought he likes a lot of older films.

Randy has everything bias.


Well it does motivate Antoninus to get the fuck out of there and join the slaves. Kubrick did get in some scenes that were more dependent on the silence of the players. One scene that comes to mind is in the holding cell before the first gladiator fight for Spartacus (good lighting in that scene too).

Doggy, watch it again. That was the point where I first started to notice what was bothering me with the look. The two-shots show them fully bathed in light; the close-ups have a shadow stripe over the middle of their faces. Independent film or not (by the way, if it was so low-budget, then what was that big-ass Universal Studios logo doing at the beginning?), they couldn't use a camera that had a viewfinder?



It happens. Big ass film that shot for almost half a year is bound to have those continuity errors in lighting, but i don't think it is as bad as you're making it out to be. Maybe we should try to make a date on the 15th so i can look at it again (if not, you got me motivated to see it in some way or another to look for these errors to happen "nearly every cut")

Sorry Mike, but there's no way in hell I can sit through that movie a second time in the same month. I wish I would have been able to see it on the big screen (same goes for every movie), but I'm glad I didn't pay Arclight prices for it.


i doubt he was aghast. He shot the scenes after all. Did he think they weren't going to make it into the cut? Kubrick wasn't tricked. Maybe he saw it as the stepping stone it ended up being for him. If he didn't make Spartacus, he couldn't have been in the position he was to make his next batch of films. As much as he did not like the results, i'm sure he recognized what it did for his career. Seeing the version he wanted to make of course would have been amazing (he wanted more battles to convey the distance and time of the slaves' fight better).

I'm sure you're right in that he saw Spartacus as a shot at the big time. He clearly had a bigger appetite than The Killing or even Paths of Glory could satisfy. And maybe Jared and I are overstating Kubrick's supposed dissatisfaction with the movie...but like I said at the beginning, it's just so different from everything else he's ever made. It's impossible for me to imagine the Kubrick of A Clockwork Orange and Barry Lyndon ending a film with his hero hanging from a fucking cross.

Directors in the studio system are forced all the time to shoot things they don't like. Only those who are powerful enough to have veto power, or who think they are powerful enough, can look at a scene and say "You know what, this clashes with my entire worldview. I want to have Spartacus drown in the river, as he really did, and I don't give a good goddamn if it lessens Kirk Douglas' heroic profile in the process". Kubrick probably had to be honest with himself about the fact that he would lose the battle; so he grit his teeth, called "action", cashed his paycheck, and started trying to make a movie about wanting to fuck a 10 year old.


Nope. You can do whatever you like. i know why i like em'. They were part of my film exposure as a kid. i love the scale. i love the saturated technicolor. i enjoy the overwrought and intense acting of the time. Those and other things. i'm not a sucker for every bible and sandal film (The Robe blows), but i like more than a few.

Fair enough. Like you said, to each his own.

[wmgaretjax]

You should check out L'Enfant. It's slightly more narratively compelling, although still very much in the same aesthetic. I say this as someone who likes The Son very much and LOVES L'Enfant.

This man speaks the truth.

[ivankay]

Doggy, watch it again. That was the point where I first started to notice what was bothering me with the look. The two-shots show them fully bathed in light; the close-ups have a shadow stripe over the middle of their faces. Independent film or not (by the way, if it was so low-budget, then what was that big-ass Universal Studios logo doing at the beginning?), they couldn't use a camera that had a viewfinder?

i will check that. i'm remembering the shadow stripe and the framing of the outside fight using the wood planks. i liked that very much because it set up the danger without blowing the use of the arena. Communicated the fear in their eyes.

http://www.criterionforum.org/caps/spartacus00002.jpg
Found this for fun.

When i said independent, i was emphasizing it was more Douglas' movie than Universal's. He was pretty powerful at that time in his career. i think he did some really good things with that power (like getting Kubrick work). Looks like Kubrick learned a lot from him on the projects they worked on together. Thank Jeebus he eventually got the control he (and i imagine every film maker) wanted.

[sbessiso]

I love a movie that can make me jump in my seat and laugh hysterically in the same beat.

YES!!!

I'm not seeing it until Thursday but I cannot fucking wait!!!

Slightly off topic but speaking of horror comedies this one is quite the gem if you guys havent seen it. So underrated it hurts

http://www.justoned.com/images/idle_hands.jpg

[SoulDischarge]

Yeah. L'Enfant was good. It was much more engaging than The Son, although not nearly as tense. I like how the main character is a total bastard, but not in a cartoonish way. Most of his actions are pretty despicable, but it's hard to really hate him despite them.

[schoolofruckus]

I love that the title seems to be referring to Bruno, rather than his baby.

[SoulDischarge]

Heh. I didn't think of that. He's definitely the classic man-child.

[AlecEiffel]

I enjoyed Drag Me To Hell quite a bit, but it is severely lacking a likable lead. So much of what made the Evil Dead movies work was Bruce Campbell's charm. even in Army of Darkness where his character is an overbearing, unlikable jackass he is still fun to watch and root for. Alison Lohman gets a couple Bruce moments, but she just ain't him.

Still worth seeing for Raimi fans.

[stuporfly]

I know this is off topic, but AlecEiffel is my new hero for the Frank Pembleton avatar.

But hey - Andre Braugher's been in some shitty movies! Three cheers for getting back on track!

[AlecEiffel]

I know this is off topic, but AlecEiffel is my new hero for the Frank Pembleton avatar.

But hey - Andre Braugher's been in some shitty movies! Three cheers for getting back on track!

He has been, but he always gives a great performance no matter the overall quality of the film.

[stinkbutt]

How many times does Keanu say "man" in Speed?

[stuporfly]

He has been, but he always gives a great performance no matter the overall quality of the film.

He sure can class up the joint.

[schoolofruckus]

July 31st is shaping up to be one of the best film release days in many years. In addition to new films from the Dardenne brothers (Lorna's Silence) and Judd Apatow (Funny People), we now have a third to look forward to:

Park Chan-Wook's Thirst

[sbessiso]

Do you think "Funny People" looks good? I should give Apatow the benefit of the doubt but the trailer I saw was fucking awful

[schoolofruckus]

I could see it being disappointing. Apatow's original cut was supposedly 3 hours long, and I don't see him sustaining a film for that length of time. But I think the story is promising, and what's not to like about the cast?

The trailer wasn't much more than okay, but I don't feel like trailers are necessarily a good selling point for a film where the comedy is more rooted in character and manner than in punchlines and sight gags. I'm going to be there opening weekend (along with these other two).

[sbessiso]

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2009/smspidey4.jpg

[MissingPerson]

Please be better than the third one...

[AlecEiffel]

They need to stop wasting our time with these Spider-Man movies. If I had obscene, unrealistic amounts of money I would buy the rights to Spider-Man and give them to Marvel.

[real talk]

I just don't like the odds that I didn't see the entire plot in the trailer for Funny People. Even if the funny is in the mannerisms and things.

[schoolofruckus]

I just don't like the odds that I didn't see the entire plot in the trailer for Funny People. Even if the funny is in the mannerisms and things.

I agree with this 100%. I fucking hate linear trailers where everything happens in the order that the story does.

[bobert]

The action scenes paled in comparison to those in Paths of Glory.

The action in Doctor Strangelove put them both to shame. All right, in all seriousness, you really think the action in Paths of Glory was better than Spartacus? Paths is a classic, and I admit it's been awhile, but other than that scene in the trenches I don't remember any action in that film - just a crowd of soldiers scurrying over barb wire. Spartacus is a bloated mess, but the action scenes were impressively staged and certainly the film's biggest virtue.

[SoulDischarge]

I'm trying to catch up on the Haneke movies I haven't seen. I watched Benny's Video, and it felt like another one of those Haneke films where he wants you to feel like a bad person for watching his movie. Maybe I've seen too many movies about violence in the media and middle class alienation or maybe Haneke has covered most of the themes in this movie more compellingly in some of his later films, but at the end I just felt like "Who cares?" Next up is 71 Fragments Of A Chronology Of Chance.

[wmgaretjax]

you are in for a treat.

[schoolofruckus]

I've really only seen the U.S. version of Funny Games. I tried watching Cache a long time ago, but I wasn't in the mood for it, so I didn't get very far into it. I have Time of the Wolf on my Netflix queue.

[schoolofruckus]

Also, I saw The Hangover for free at Warner Bros. last night. It's pretty good. I didn't love it - I didn't think any of it was particularly brilliant comedy - but the scenario itself is my idea of a good comedy premise, and thus I enjoyed it. The Zack Galifianikis (sic) character was the least effective, in my opinion; it felt like most of his lines and actions were trying way too hard.

I also fully expect it to become ridiculously overrated to the point that I get sick of it and possibly start to turn against it within the next month. But I'm also not opposed to the supposed sequel that they're planning; if they can execute the idea a little better than in this one, it has potential.

[RotationSlimWang]

So I read four paragraphs of an article about Tony Scott apparently remaking The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3. I had not heard about this. Three things:

1. This will piss me off to no end.
2. Taking of Pelham was already remade--it was called Reservoir Dogs, Tony. You know. That guy who wrote the amazing script you actually managed to not ruin by directing for once made it.
3. Tony, the whole point of the original was that it's all just in two locations. The entire article was about the camera techniques they're using for capturing what I can only imagine has amounted to 1000 hours of footage of trains speeding past a camera lens by mere inches.

This is like if the fat fucking dork who did the LOTR trilogy--names fail me at the moment and he sucks anyway--announced he was going to remake Twelve Angry Men.

[real talk]

Also, I saw The Hangover for free at Warner Bros. last night. It's pretty good. I didn't love it - I didn't think any of it was particularly brilliant comedy - but the scenario itself is my idea of a good comedy premise, and thus I enjoyed it. The Zack Galifianikis (sic) character was the least effective, in my opinion; it felt like most of his lines and actions were trying way too hard.

I also fully expect it to become ridiculously overrated to the point that I get sick of it and possibly start to turn against it within the next month. But I'm also not opposed to the supposed sequel that they're planning; if they can execute the idea a little better than in this one, it has potential.

Did you like it more than Star Trek?

I really hope this is playing somewhere here. I've been searching theatres and all the ones I can find on the East side have like 6 movies per and they are all playing the same movies.

[schoolofruckus]

Apples & oranges. To me, it had less notable downsides than Star Trek. I was also significantly less tired when I saw it, so I didn't have to battle sleepiness.

I will say this - no performance in The Hangover is as bad as Winona Ryder in Star Trek.

[real talk]

She wasn't bad!!!!

[schoolofruckus]

That's true. I think it was more like ABOMINABLE.

[real talk]

Oh, Gabe.

[schoolofruckus]

That would be most good, Newland. Most good.

[amyzzz]

Randy, Peter Jackson isn't fat anymore.

[chairmenmeow47]

well, i sure know i'll sleep better tonight :p

last movie i watched was the three comrades. i love in really old movies how people are just "ill" and no one really knows why or what's going on & they have to be "sent away" to get better. it was pretty good actually, minus the love story stuff. i just liked the story of the three friends.

[schoolofruckus]

The action in Doctor Strangelove put them both to shame.

Well, yeah.


All right, in all seriousness, you really think the action in Paths of Glory was better than Spartacus? Paths is a classic, and I admit it's been awhile, but other than that scene in the trenches I don't remember any action in that film - just a crowd of soldiers scurrying over barb wire. Spartacus is a bloated mess, but the action scenes were impressively staged and certainly the film's biggest virtue.

The trench scene is the only real "action" in the movie, but it's an all-timer. I remember it vividly even though I haven't seen the film in probably 10 years. I would even go as far as to argue that it's just as influential as Spartacus (look at Saving Private Ryan - which in turn has influenced every war movie since - Spielberg pretty much reshot Paths of Glory for the Normandy invasion). Not that influence makes it great necessarily....but in this case, it IS great.

[SoulDischarge]

I've really only seen the U.S. version of Funny Games. I tried watching Cache a long time ago, but I wasn't in the mood for it, so I didn't get very far into it. I have Time of the Wolf on my Netflix queue.

Watch The Piano Teacher.

[bobert]

Funny Games tried my patience more than any film in recently memory. I've never seen a filmmaker so blatantly mock his audience. Can't believe that guy made that movie twice.

[SoulDischarge]

That's my biggest complaint against Michael Haneke. He could really stand to turn down the smug condescension a little bit.

[bremex]

I just saw Defiance and I loooooooooved it!!!

[wmgaretjax]

Funny Games I've never seen a filmmaker so blatantly mock his audience.

Von Trier? I think the two of them could duke it out.

[schoolofruckus]

Jennie and I just watched Harold and Maude. Fucking GREAT! I don't imagine there's much light I can shed on this one, but anyone who's been hearing about it for years and is just waiting to get around to seeing it (as was the case with me), get off your ass and watch it already.

[rage patton]

Anyone seen JCVD? I watched it last night. It was much diferent than I thought it was going to be. I enjoyed it up until the ending. I guess the last 15 minutes or so. I did not like the ending. What did others think of this movie?

[sbessiso]

Drag Me To Hell was kind of awesome. Definitely wasnt expecting that ending! Holy shit its a loud fucking movie too

[LooseAtTheZoo]

I've really only seen the U.S. version of Funny Games. I tried watching Cache a long time ago, but I wasn't in the mood for it, so I didn't get very far into it. I have Time of the Wolf on my Netflix queue.

I came away from Cache disappointed because I didn't understand the ending. It felt like a huge buildup for nothing. When I re-watched the ending tableau, things made much more sense, but it still felt like so many loose ends were left hanging. Which, I guess, was the filmmakers purpose.

[wmgaretjax]

Which, I guess, was the filmmakers purpose.

Undoubtedly.

[kitt kat]

Jennie and I just watched Harold and Maude. Fucking GREAT! I don't imagine there's much light I can shed on this one, but anyone who's been hearing about it for years and is just waiting to get around to seeing it (as was the case with me), get off your ass and watch it already.

i think it's safe for me to say this is my favorite movie of all time

i saw "up" this week with my boyfriend. we were both crying within the first ten minutes. i think that says a lot about it.

[kitt kat]

Do you have any suggestions for classic 70's movies that would be appropriate to show an 8th grade class? In other words it's got to be "PG-13." And not Star Wars, they've all seen it. I want to show a movie that they would probably never see on their own.

My yearbook class has kind of turned into a Film History class, because they have finished all their deadlines. So far they have seen City Lights, Gone with the Wind, Stagecoach, Vertigo, and Bonnie and Clyde.

Does it have to be 70s?

Harold & Maude
Hard Days' Night
West Side Story
The Apartment
The Graduate
Dr. Strangelove
His Girl Friday

...are all movies I was exposed to around that age that I still love now. I especially think Hard Days' Night is a good choice; it's still a pretty hilarious movie.

[schoolofruckus]

I watched Brand Upon the Brain! last night and then kicked the shit out of myself for not seeing the live show. I can't imagine that there's much of anything in the history of cinema that compares to this movie, and the idea of seeing Hellion narrating that in person with a live orchestra and foley team is beyond my comprehension. But alas, at least they included a live recording of his narration track on the Criterion DVD. It took me a little while to get the hang of this movie - it makes Requiem For a Dream look like a Clint Eastwood film in terms of unspooling rapid-fire collage of images, and the images themselves required me to re-calibrate a little - but it was well worth the patience.

I also watched the super-long documentary A Constant Forge that was included in the Cassavetes Criterion box set. It was great, although it doesn't cover much that wasn't already streamlined in Cassavetes on Cassavetes. The main thrill was in seeing the archive footage and behind-the-scenes. I wasn't expecting there to be much behind-the-scenes material from most of these shoots, seeing as how Cassavetes often struggled to come up with film stock for the movies themselves; but his "never say cut" philosophy resulted in some nice extra bits where one could see him working with his cast between takes. This only served to heighten my excitement for the Husbands DVD that is apparently scheduled for release on August 18th.

[TallGuyCM]

I can't remember the last time I was this unexcited about summer movies. I mean, come on! Star Trek? Action filmed disguised as a sci-fi flick. Transformers? The first one was terrible, this one looks worse. Terminator Salvation? Maybe, not entirely opposed to this one, but very hesitant as well. Land of the Lost? Gimme a fucking break. Public Enemies? Looks good...a '50s bank robber kinda flick...might save the summer, but aside from that...WTF?

[whynotsmile99]

I can't remember the last time I was this unexcited about summer movies. I mean, come on! Star Trek? Action filmed disguised as a sci-fi flick. Transformers? The first one was terrible, this one looks worse. Terminator Salvation? Maybe, not entirely opposed to this one, but very hesitant as well. Land of the Lost? Gimme a fucking break. Public Enemies? Looks good...a '50s bank robber kinda flick...might save the summer, but aside from that...WTF?

Bruno and the Hangover. That's about it.

it's all about the art house films this year. If you are into foreign films, this fall will be fantastic

[DRcube]

Also, I saw The Hangover for free at Warner Bros. last night. It's pretty good. I didn't love it - I didn't think any of it was particularly brilliant comedy - but the scenario itself is my idea of a good comedy premise, and thus I enjoyed it. The Zack Galifianikis (sic) character was the least effective, in my opinion; it felt like most of his lines and actions were trying way too hard.

I also fully expect it to become ridiculously overrated to the point that I get sick of it and possibly start to turn against it within the next month. But I'm also not opposed to the supposed sequel that they're planning; if they can execute the idea a little better than in this one, it has potential.

100% agree the first 20 minutes i felt like they were trying way too hard....also the last 2 minutes were funnier than the entire movie

[ivankay]

i thought The Hangover was pretty funny, but will have to agree with you guys. Except i suspect i was diggin a bit more on Zack than Gabe was.

After i walked into Terminator Salvation. i left around the 40 minute mark because doing stuff at home seemed like a better idea and the movie was really blowing. That's 2 Terminators in a row where people look too pretty for the shit they been through. Hard for me to imagine it got any better.

[chairmenmeow47]

are you referring to people being too pretty in T3? that was before going through shit, aka judgment day, so why should they have looked "less pretty"?

and i was thinking over the weekend how i want to watch harlold & maude again.

[ivankay]

An example from T3 of being "too pretty" is going through an crazy ride in the back of a pick up, being tossed around like a rag doll, beat to hell and not looking like there are any marks on your face and walking pretty normal.

In 4 you got the "LA Branch" looking cute as can be. What? No scars or bruises? No look of not having showered and stinking? Aren't they hiding from and fighting Terminators in a wasteland? Too slick.

The composition of shots, dialog and editing were kind a crummy too.

[chairmenmeow47]

i totally agree about 4, i was just curious what you meant about 3, but that is a good example i suppose. i think i liked 3 more than most people though, minus the actor who played john connor. i just liked that it ended with judgment day and they weren't able to save everything.

[ivankay]

i liked 3 too, but was frustrated by the lack of attention to details that could have pushed it into a higher place. i hate watching a movie and seeing the missed potential (especially when there is a BIG BUDGET and qualified people involved).

[mountmccabe]

i just liked that it ended with judgment day and they weren't able to save everything.

It was interesting but such a contradiction of the "No Fate" from T2 that it didn't sit well with me.

[bremex]

I saw all 3 Underworld movies this weekend :lol:

Every since me dad got a blu ray player, I've been watching movies like a sick bastard :D

[amyzzz]

I saw all 3 Underworld movies this weekend :lol:

Every since me dad got a blu ray player, I've been watching movies like a sick bastard :D
Was the last one worth watching? I hated the second one.

[PassiveTheory]

Terminator Salvation was fucking awful. I must be a sucker for punishment though, because I intend to see the 2nd Transformers movie (thought the 1st was was good at what it did) and the new GI Joe film...

Up is on my plate, too.

[chairmenmeow47]

It was interesting but such a contradiction of the "No Fate" from T2 that it didn't sit well with me.

see, but i thought their fate was to lead the resistance, not end judgment day.

[PotVsKtl]

svwKY3GtZ04

[Young blood]

That looks insanely awesome.

[bremex]

Was the last one worth watching? I hated the second one.

YES.

The 2nd one is the worse of them all. 3rd one is my fav one!!!

[MissingPerson]

Greatly enjoyed Drag Me To Hell, largely because I saw it with my flatmate, who has had an actual gypsy curse on him. We intend to yell at him suddenly and throw shit at the back of his head for quite some time to come.

[PotVsKtl]

None of the Underworld movies are worth watching, not even on a "I've got nothing to do and I'm a fucking moron" level. Have some self-respect people.

[MissingPerson]

Pot's right. Underworld is the worst film I've ever seen, and at no point was it even accidentally entertaining.

[rage patton]

What confused me about Terminator Salvation... is why John Conor was having such a hard time with Marcus, the robot/human. He was saved by a robot/human as a kid... why was is so hard for him to believe that there was a robot/human. Furthmore, why couldn't he trust Marcus? Yes, we all know John Conor hates machines. Got it. But again, he trusted a machine as a kid and that machine is the only reason he is alive... why was it so hard for him to trust one more? Ugh. I can't seem to get past this.

[SoulDischarge]

Everyone. Just stop paying for bad movies.

[schoolofruckus]

Pot's right. Underworld is the worst film I've ever seen, and at no point was it even accidentally entertaining.

I went to the premiere. Even with the promise of an afterparty of free booze and food, the movie was among the worst I've ever seen.

Although nothing beats Life as a House in that department.

[amyzzz]

When I ask someone specifically for an opinion on a movie HE SAW AND YOU DIDN'T, just STFU, will you? You fucking elitist bastards.

[PotVsKtl]

How about you don't ask shitfaced questions and go mumble around in a dickpod instead?

[PotVsKtl]

You look like a horse with leukemia.

[amyzzz]

Yeah, I should've PM'ed the person, apparently. Jesus. You're such a load of dismembered alligator spleens.

And I know how shitty I look. That's about the weakest of insults you can give.

[PotVsKtl]

I don't have any real clue how you or anyone else looks, it's a generalized insult. Leukemia doesn't even look like anything, use your brain.

[SoulDischarge]

I don't have any real clue how you or anyone else looks, it's a generalized insult. Leukemia doesn't even look like anything, use your brain.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=leukemia&sa=N&tab=wi&um=1

I can't, in good conscience, actually post some of those in here.


Although, when you search "leukemia horse," this shows up on the first page:
http://www.lambiek.net/artists/s/stevens_d/stevens_dave.jpg
Cancer is sexy again.

[schoolofruckus]

When I ask someone specifically for an opinion on a movie HE SAW AND YOU DIDN'T, just STFU, will you? You fucking elitist bastards.

You'll notice the following:


I didn't say a word about Underworld 3.
Everyone on here offers opinions on any movie mentioned, solicited or not.
My name's in the title, and I will do as I goddamn please.

[schoolofruckus]

Do any of you have an opinion on which version of Close Encounters of the Third Kind is the best? I have never seen it (due to my longstanding aversion to Richard Dreyfuss) and I want to know which one I should try. According to Wikipedia, the '77 original is great, the '80 rerelease is better but it takes us inside the spaceship, and the '98 is the best of both worlds because it adds to the original without revealing what's inside the ship.

Thoughts?

[HowToDisappear]

I greatly prefer the original '77 version. Hated the '80 rerelease - too much extraneous shit that didn't really add to the film except for more run time and extra aggravation. (The part with the actual aliens is the weakest part of the film - why have more of it? And much too much of Dreyfuss having his mental breakdown.) I felt like the '98 version tried to correct the mistakes of the '80 release, but why bother? Watch the original.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

i watched SERPICO for the first time and thought it was absolutely amazing. By far one of the best of Pacino's early performances, allowing him to be eccentric without being over too over the top or taking on a ridiculous accent. Great directing all around (Sidney Lumet, the master) and just a terrific story. Kinda cheeseball score at times, but at other times it's extremely affective. I've been digging into a bunch of older crime movies (admittedly a lot of guilty-pleasurish '80s neo noir as well as the '70s hard-boiled stuff) and this is definitely one of the best

[iv3rdawG]

i watched SERPICO for the first time and thought it was absolutely amazing. By far one of the best of Pacino's early performances, allowing him to be eccentric without being over too over the top or taking on a ridiculous accent. Great directing all around (Sidney Lumet, the master) and just a terrific story. Kinda cheeseball score at times, but at other times it's extremely affective. I've been digging into a bunch of older crime movies (admittedly a lot of guilty-pleasurish '80s neo noir as well as the '70s hard-boiled stuff) and this is definitely one of the best

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/153/charlieserpico.gif

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

LOL

i also meant to mention that it was unexpectedly hilarious as well (mostly on purpose)

[AlecEiffel]

What confused me about Terminator Salvation... is why John Conor was having such a hard time with Marcus, the robot/human. He was saved by a robot/human as a kid... why was is so hard for him to believe that there was a robot/human. Furthmore, why couldn't he trust Marcus? Yes, we all know John Conor hates machines. Got it. But again, he trusted a machine as a kid and that machine is the only reason he is alive... why was it so hard for him to trust one more? Ugh. I can't seem to get past this.

Marcus is a more advanced Terminator. Arnold Terminator is a not a robot/human, it's a robot wearing a human skin costume. Marcus has human organs and what not. Also, the movie is dumb, don't worry about it.

[chairmenmeow47]

Do any of you have an opinion on which version of Close Encounters of the Third Kind is the best? I have never seen it (due to my longstanding aversion to Richard Dreyfuss) and I want to know which one I should try. According to Wikipedia, the '77 original is great, the '80 rerelease is better but it takes us inside the spaceship, and the '98 is the best of both worlds because it adds to the original without revealing what's inside the ship.

Thoughts?

explain the aversion to richard dreyfuss, just curious.

[bremex]

None of the Underworld movies are worth watching, not even on a "I've got nothing to do and I'm a fucking moron" level. Have some self-respect people.


:(

Is is true that Drag me to hell is about a realtor that gets a jinxed by a home owner or summat???

Fuckkk, I'm fucked!!!

[amyzzz]

Why did you quote that?

I'm going to try to see Drag Me to Hell next week.

[PotVsKtl]

:(

Is is true that Drag me to hell is about a realtor that gets a jinxed by a home owner or summat???

Fuckkk, I'm fucked!!!

So you're the new town idiot.

[Mr.Nipples]

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/453778/It-Might-Get-Loud/trailers?8mu&emc=mub1

[Geno_g]

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/453778/It-Might-Get-Loud/trailers?8mu&emc=mub1

I want to see that...

[schoolofruckus]

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/453778/It-Might-Get-Loud/trailers?8mu&emc=mub1


They filmed that at WB last year. I got to watch a little jamming ("Kashmir", "Bullet the Blue Sky", and a cover of "The Weight"), as well as a "Spinal Tap" scene where Page shows his guitar collection to the other two. I hope all of those moments make it into the film.


explain the aversion to richard dreyfuss, just curious.

1. He played the prick Dr. Marvin so well in What About Bob? that I'm convinced that's his personality in real life. I saw What About Bob? when I was 8 or 9, so this impression came at a very crucial point in my development.

2.
http://www.teachwithmovies.org/guides/mr-hollands-opus-DVDcover.gif

[rage patton]

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/453778/It-Might-Get-Loud/trailers?8mu&emc=mub1

This looks really fucking good. Any idea when it comes out?

[amyzzz]

I worked in a one-screen movie theatre which showed only Mr Holland's Opus for a month straight. I wanted to kill myself hearing that awful music everyday. And that was probably the only movie we showed that I never actually watched, so I get the Dreyfus hate.

[real talk]

19,481

[Young blood]

giggle.

[bremex]

So you're the new town idiot.

:(

why???