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gaypalmsprings
02-13-2008, 05:52 AM
Stagecoach has added Friday to its original 2-day schedule. Maybe that's what GV has up its sleeve, to take the money from Coachella & invest it in Stagecoach. People who bought Stagecoach will now have to pay more $$$ to add the 3rd day. If the acts move from Sat/Sun to Fri, that would be one of those old-fashioned used car bait n' switch gimmicks.

sbessiso
02-13-2008, 05:54 AM
yee-haw!

Ardentbiscuit
02-13-2008, 05:59 AM
I think they would have to add more acts....it would be pretty damn thin over 3 days..

I don't think even the BBQ competition can fill in all those gaps.

JustSteve
02-13-2008, 07:29 AM
everything is already set up there in terms of stages/vendors/etc., so if they have enough artists to come out and play for that day then why not make a little more cash. every day that place sits empty is a day they aren't making money, so might as well...

psychic friend
02-13-2008, 07:34 AM
thanks for the negativity gay

canexplain
02-13-2008, 07:54 AM
i grew up on that music but i never ever listen to it ... but, i would go to that show for sure if i had the bucks .... i think it would be , well, kick ass ... all those drunken cowboys and fake urban dudes, but they are fun .... canx**

The only minor issue I have with cowboys or cowgirls is: when I got divorced years ago, the ex got the horses lol … well I got the house so I had no complaints … canx**

Ardentbiscuit
02-13-2008, 08:12 AM
So is this 3 day official? There isn't anything on the stage coach site and how are they going to break up the days? Are they adding more acts?

menikmati
02-13-2008, 08:19 AM
my dad used to be a used car salesman

nationocean
02-13-2008, 08:19 AM
nice nazi

canexplain
02-13-2008, 08:48 AM
my dad used to be a used car salesman

was he a good salesman? i suck big time at sales .... x****

vinylmartyr
02-13-2008, 08:52 AM
The Eagles are headlining Friday.

vinylmartyr
02-13-2008, 08:53 AM
The Friday STAGECOACH line-up will also include performances from John Fogerty, Trisha Yearwood, Shelby Lynne, Glen Campbell and Rissi Palmer

http://stagecoachfestival.com/updates/news

canexplain
02-13-2008, 08:58 AM
The Friday STAGECOACH line-up will also include performances from John Fogerty, Trisha Yearwood, Shelby Lynne, Glen Campbell and Rissi Palmer

http://stagecoachfestival.com/updates/news

Three-day reserved seating will go on sale Tuesday, February 19 at 12 Noon (PT) for $585 plus applicable fees. wow i almost wonder if that is a typo .... or are all cowboys rich, not the ones i know anyway .... canx****

nbvwes
02-13-2008, 09:05 AM
that's for reserved seating, not GA... General Admission is now the same price as Coachella...

hmm... i think i called this, didn't i? Stagecoach being the drain of Coachella's funds this year? they can afford to add The Eagles (hell, an entire DAY! of bands), but not a decent friday headliner for Coach??

Boourns
02-13-2008, 09:20 AM
So that's why camping is four days this year.

canexplain
02-13-2008, 09:20 AM
that's for reserved seating, not GA... General Admission is now the same price as Coachella...

hmm... i think i called this, didn't i? Stagecoach being the drain of Coachella's funds this year? they can afford The Eagles, but not a decent friday headliner for Coach??

oh tnx, i thought that was out of line .. also could be that gv added the eagles there, to make more money, so 09 coachella could still go on or be even better ... just a thought ... x****

thelastgreatman
02-13-2008, 09:25 AM
Gaypalm, you're so angry recently. Maybe you need to seriously consider taking up poontang.

psychic friend
02-13-2008, 09:32 AM
the festivals are not related. their budgets do not intertwine. you guys are so convoluted

anti-square
02-13-2008, 09:40 AM
GV is handing out anxiety attacks this year. Or is it every year?

Ardentbiscuit
02-13-2008, 09:48 AM
That's pretty hefty additions, adding a day, another headliner and more pretty major acts..

MarkO
02-13-2008, 09:49 AM
I'd love to see John Fogerty sometime. Damn.

canexplain
02-13-2008, 09:50 AM
the festivals are not related. their budgets do not intertwine. you guys are so convoluted

ok, i had no idea of course ... just trying to keep down the whining ... x****

BROKENDOLL
02-13-2008, 09:57 AM
I dated a Cowboy for about 7 years and he was a car salesman to boot. When we split, he got the dog, but I got more than those 8 second rides, and my taste in music returned.

Ardentbiscuit
02-13-2008, 09:58 AM
I may have to go to stagecoach now...:)

thelastgreatman
02-13-2008, 09:58 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, possibly the weirdest thing Brokendoll has ever said on this board. And that's fucking up there.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
02-13-2008, 09:59 AM
wow...Eagles at stagecoach?

Boourns
02-13-2008, 10:02 AM
Everyone sing along to "Hotel California", now!

*twitch*

BROKENDOLL
02-13-2008, 10:07 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, possibly the weirdest thing Brokendoll has ever said on this board. And that's fucking up there.
That was the condensed version. Would you prefer the long drawn out "My man ran off with his horse and left me here to drown in my whiskey?"

BROKENDOLL
02-13-2008, 10:08 AM
wow...Eagles at stagecoach?
Isn't that special? Especially since I paid over $400 to see their last tour ever here at the tennis gardens afew years ago!

boyalien0
02-13-2008, 10:16 AM
the festivals are not related. their budgets do not intertwine. you guys are so convoluted

The festivals aren't related, except for the fact that they use the same grounds, the same stages, the same tents, probably the same security and golf carts for security, first aid people, they probably sell water from the same vendor....am I wrong, here?

captncrzy
02-13-2008, 10:18 AM
The festivals aren't related, except for the fact that they use the same grounds, the same stages, the same tents, probably the same security and golf carts for security, first aid people, they probably sell water from the same vendor....am I wrong, here?

She means realated from a financial standpoint. The same way Taco Bell and Pizza Hut are owned by the same company and share space, yet they have different financial statements.

boyalien0
02-13-2008, 10:22 AM
Okay, and is someone actually going to logically and factually argue that all revenue from both festivals doesn't essentially go to the same place? I mean, PF, if we're convoluted, then please, clear the air for all of us proles.

captncrzy
02-13-2008, 10:25 AM
Gaypalm, you're so angry recently. Maybe you need to seriously consider taking up poontang.

You and I both know that women are even more of a pain in the ass than men.

nationocean
02-13-2008, 10:25 AM
She means realated from a financial standpoint. The same way Taco Bell and Pizza Hut are owned by the same company and share space, yet they have different financial statements.

if pizza hut has a terrible menu and starts to lose a ton of money.. it will effect taco bell.

..just saying

captncrzy
02-13-2008, 10:26 AM
How?

SFChrissy
02-13-2008, 10:26 AM
wow...Eagles at stagecoach?

If they can play the Salinas Fairgrounds they can play anywhere...I think they are pretty much a universal genre!!!

boyalien0
02-13-2008, 10:29 AM
I just don't see how anyone can argue that adding a third day to Stagecoach, paying for the Eagles, and launching a new east coast festival hasn't had a financial impact on Goldenvoice and thus an impact on this year's Coachella lineup.

nationocean
02-13-2008, 10:31 AM
How?

Yahtzee?

BROKENDOLL
02-13-2008, 10:31 AM
You and I both know that women are even more of a pain in the ass than men.
And you and I both know why they tolerate it, don't we?

xbnmx
02-13-2008, 10:35 AM
Looks like Golden Voice has gone back on its sponsor free stages policy since the Mane Stage is powered by Toyota Tundra.

bballarl
02-13-2008, 10:35 AM
I just don't see how anyone can argue that adding a third day to Stagecoach, paying for the Eagles, and launching a new east coast festival hasn't had a financial impact on Goldenvoice and thus an impact on this year's Coachella lineup.

AEG.

nationocean
02-13-2008, 10:36 AM
AEG. Live Nation. HypnoToad. Ticketmaster.

They are your Gods. Worship them.

bballarl
02-13-2008, 10:38 AM
I don't understand why people are so fucking critical. Decisions have to be made to keep things viable, and sometimes these decisions just make sense. With Stagecoach, they are catering to a completely different audience than Coachella. Granted, there is a tiny bit of overlap. But the people there won't give a fuck if the stage is powered by Toyota Tundra. This business decision makes sense. Regardless of what people want to believe, music is a business. Art is commerce. And at Coachella, the stages still don't have sponsors.

canexplain
02-13-2008, 10:39 AM
AEG. Live Nation. HypnoToad. Ticketmaster.

They are your Gods. Worship them.

dont forget superfly ... x****

psychic friend
02-13-2008, 10:42 AM
Okay, and is someone actually going to logically and factually argue that all revenue from both festivals doesn't essentially go to the same place? I mean, PF, if we're convoluted, then please, clear the air for all of us proles.


stop being a pain in the ass.. and trying to argue for no reason. hows that?

stagecoach artist budget does not affect coachella artist budget. enough with the stupid ideas that stagecoach is taking away from coachella. its not. end of story.

Ardentbiscuit
02-13-2008, 11:10 AM
Maybe one of the artists from Stagecoach can write one of those depressing country songs about how much the Coachella line up sucks and how Jack Johnson ruined their life and how the other festivals stole all of Coachella's money and then because of it their girlfriend/wife left them, stole the horse, ran over the dog, then they became an alcoholic and then ended up seeing ICP at Red Rocks and afterwards going back to their mobile home in Morrison, CO while working as a process server/repo agent until finally one day they try to repo the wrong person and get shot themselves and end up in a free hospital where they eventually go insane and end up in a mental institution and then they write a letter to Dr. Phil and end up becoming an overnight sensation from a spot on Dr. Phil only to burn out in 15 minutes after getting caught partying with Paris Hilton and Linsey Lohan while chasing Britney's ex-husband K-fed who allegedly stole their stash....okay I'm tired of typing.

JustSteve
02-13-2008, 11:44 AM
stop being a pain in the ass.. and trying to argue for no reason. hows that?

stagecoach artist budget does not affect coachella artist budget. enough with the stupid ideas that stagecoach is taking away from coachella. its not. end of story.

how about without stagecoach there may not be coachella! remember, paul had to come up with a way to keep the festival at the polo grounds and adding a second weekend known as stagecoach is how that happened. shut the fuck up boyalien.

MarkO
02-13-2008, 11:50 AM
............ the people there won't give a fuck if the stage is powered by Toyota Tundra. This business decision makes sense. Regardless of what people want to believe, music is a business. Art is commerce. And at Coachella, the stages still don't have sponsors.

I wonder why it's so important to people to have Coachella sponsorship free. I couldn't care less. It's irrelevant.

jimmycrackcorn
02-13-2008, 11:54 AM
AEG. Live Nation. HypnoToad. Ticketmaster.

They are your Gods. Worship them.

hypnotoad...
hilarious

JustSteve
02-13-2008, 11:57 AM
Okay, and is someone actually going to logically and factually argue that all revenue from both festivals doesn't essentially go to the same place? I mean, PF, if we're convoluted, then please, clear the air for all of us proles.

can someone explain to you the difference between budget and revenue?

MarkO
02-13-2008, 12:06 PM
can someone explain to you the difference between budget and revenue?

Budget = monies allocated for future spending on defined items.
Revenue = Monies taken in.

braundiggity
02-13-2008, 12:16 PM
on one hand, I'd like more sponsorship, if it meant I only pay $150 or $200 for all three days. On the other, I sincerely like that my stages have cool names, not "Budweiser Stage." Same reason I hate naming sports stadiums. It's irritating. But worth it, if it saves me a LOT. I guess.

And those are big, big adds. Eagles and Fogerty? That's very legit. This gives me hope for more stuff coming to the coach.

microlovebeat
02-13-2008, 12:20 PM
I wonder why it's so important to people to have Coachella sponsorship free. I couldn't care less. It's irrelevant.

it's not sponsorship free is it??


i remember seeing playstation logos on the posters before. 2004 i think...

kreutz2112
02-13-2008, 12:28 PM
so who is playing the third day? If it's Garth Brooks I'm going.

Edit: Just checked. I hate the fucking eagles.

captncrzy
02-13-2008, 12:29 PM
can someone explain to you the difference between budget and revenue?

I didn't try to bother; I just figured he would answer and did himself an even bigger stupidhole.

kreutz2112
02-13-2008, 12:31 PM
I may still go, just because that puts me one step closer to having sex with Carrie Underwood.

nbvwes
02-13-2008, 01:09 PM
the festivals are not related. their budgets do not intertwine. you guys are so convoluted

okay dani, don't want to piss you off or anything, but let me pose a question to you:
1. Stagecoach had a decent, but not what i would call impressive, attendance last year (my guess would be 2/3 capacity; around 30,000-40,000, but i could be wrong)...
2. Coachella sold out last year (and the year before, and the year before...)

If the budgets aren't intertwined, why would...
1. Stagecoach's 'budget' warrant ANOTHER day (when Coach wasn't even big enough to pull that off until last year) and a HUGE headliner for friday in The Eagles, after a lackluster attendance last year
2. Coachella has a decent lineup this year, but arguably weaker in comparison to past year's... and a universally accepted weak friday headliner in Jack Johnson... after sell out after sell out...

i'm sorry, i love the Coach lineup personally, & i plan on going to both, but in REAL terms...

The Eagles
Tim McGraw
Carrie Underwood
The Judds (one night only)
Rascal Flatts
Big & Rich and Gretchen Wilson

Jack Johnson
Raconteurs
Portishead
Kraftwerk
Roger Waters

i mean, look at those two... every one of those Stagecoach headliners (AND SUB-HEADLINERS) could fill an arena anywhere in the country, or even all 70,000 seats at Glen Helen (and some of them have)... you could only say that about Roger Waters on the Coach end (especially if we wanna break it down to the sub-headliners; it'd be comparing Arrowhead Pond names to Glass House names...)

explain to me the justification for the budget's then, if they are not intertwined in anyway...

psychic friend
02-13-2008, 01:23 PM
Why if the sky is blue are my sneakers white? I mean seriously.

im not coming into this dumb thread anymore.

nbvwes
02-13-2008, 01:32 PM
jesus christ... i even left you an easy out by blaming it on all the sponsors Stagecoach stages get and everything...



sour puss.



Why if the sky is blue are my sneakers white? I mean seriously.



nothing you say makes any sense UNLESS the budgets for the sky & the sneakers are intertwined

i KNEW i was right!haha ;)

JustSteve
02-13-2008, 02:04 PM
If the budgets aren't intertwined, why would...
1. Stagecoach's 'budget' warrant ANOTHER day (when Coach wasn't even big enough to pull that off until last year) and a HUGE headliner for friday in The Eagles, after a lackluster attendance last year

look at the cost of tickets, too. gold circle are more than twice as much as coachella tickets, reserved is twice as much now, too. so they can sell fewer tickets but still make as much money in that area.

Sonicifyouwantit
02-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Stagecoach has added Friday to its original 2-day schedule. Maybe that's what GV has up its sleeve, to take the money from Coachella & invest it in Stagecoach. People who bought Stagecoach will now have to pay more $$$ to add the 3rd day. If the acts move from Sat/Sun to Fri, that would be one of those old-fashioned used car bait n' switch gimmicks.

its all new added acts to friday and it only makes sense for someone to pay more if they want friday added.

Sonicifyouwantit
02-13-2008, 02:11 PM
if pizza hut has a terrible menu and starts to lose a ton of money.. it will effect taco bell.

..just saying

Dont forget Pepsi is part of this conglomerate as well. Thats why pepsi products are sold at taco bell/pizza hut...personally I prefer del taco over taco bell any day.

Sonicifyouwantit
02-13-2008, 02:14 PM
I just don't see how anyone can argue that adding a third day to Stagecoach, paying for the Eagles, and launching a new east coast festival hasn't had a financial impact on Goldenvoice and thus an impact on this year's Coachella lineup.

of course it does! Goldenvoice has to budget all of it, and they are part of AEG who has invested a lot of money in the new nokia theater in LA and that too takes money out of the operation. Although revenues from last years stagecoach would most likely pay for this years stagecoach Im sure money is pulled from many places to put on these events and invest in venues/other investments. Although each fest has its own budget the overall income of goldenvoice is affected. If an umbrella company is feeling financial pain the subs will feel it too. Who says they are feeling any pain though. they are probably doing just fine financially

boyalien0
02-13-2008, 02:14 PM
can someone explain to you the difference between budget and revenue?

If revenue goes to the same place, that means the budgets for said events comes from the same place as well. I'm not as dumb as you may think.

boyalien0
02-13-2008, 02:14 PM
stop being a pain in the ass.. and trying to argue for no reason. hows that?

stagecoach artist budget does not affect coachella artist budget. enough with the stupid ideas that stagecoach is taking away from coachella. its not. end of story.

This actually clarifies nothing. Seriously, I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass. I just want some cold, hard data to support what you say above. And what about APW? Budgets for all of these festivals are decided and fixed long before the search for artists to sign occurs, I'm sure, but the monies for these budgets are all coming from the same pocket, essentially, correct? So surely when setting aside the budget for Coachella this year, the budgets for an entirely new festival as well as for the fucking eagles and a third day of Stagecoach all had to be taken into account. Please, I'm not being sarcastic, I actually want someone to prove me wrong here. But I want them to do it with some goddamned factual evidence.

Sonicifyouwantit
02-13-2008, 02:20 PM
it's not sponsorship free is it??


i remember seeing playstation logos on the posters before. 2004 i think...

not free but not overwhelming as well. Id hate to see this stage brought to you by, that stage brought to you by. I dont want to look at an add the whole time im watching an amazing set. Plus Id hate to think those sponsors are adding weight to who is added based on their demographic.

noisemachine
02-13-2008, 02:37 PM
I can see they've basically eliminated all the alt-country acts that they had last year. Also, I wonder if they are going to have less stages this year. Last year they had 4 (main, outdoor, and two of the tents were in use by bands). Not many people were at the side stages, everyone was crowded around the main stage for all the shitty mainstream acts). I wonder if thats why they're taking the alt acts off for this year.

gaypalmsprings
02-13-2008, 02:38 PM
ha, I just booked the 3rd day of reserved stagecoach seat - but it says they don't gaurantee my seat. So I am 10 rows from the front for Sat & Sun - but they can stick me with 50 rows back for Friday. Sheesh. They are bumping the first 10 rows of Gold Seats for "VIP Eagles Tour" seats, which are available through an Eagles website.

Dani - I'm not negative, just telling it like it is. Just sayin...it's all about Goldenvoice. It's about money, not music.

bmack86
02-13-2008, 02:40 PM
Maybe they're doing it because they know that it will return funds. For a first year festival drawing 30-40,000 people, Stagecoach did really well. Don't forget, that was their first year. That means that it will now be able to draw people back as well as others who heard about it over the ensuing year.

Sure, all the money is coming from the same company, but they're not going to cut their budget for Coachella, obviously their most successful festival venture, to divert funding to another festival. The funding plans are doubtless set up well ahead of time. Try booking a concert and you'll understand that shit a little bit.

gaypalmsprings
02-13-2008, 02:42 PM
Paul Tollett brought the Eagles to Indian Wells for 3 sold-out shows a while back. Don't say there is no connection between Stagecoach & Coachella.

Ardentbiscuit
02-13-2008, 02:58 PM
Maybe once they get closer to the date and flesh out the stages they will add some alt country acts...

They had some really good ones last year..

If Goldenvoice needs some help of who to look into.. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alternative_country_musicians

bballarl
02-13-2008, 04:00 PM
I don't understand half of the arguments in this thread. Or why any of this matters.

Ardentbiscuit
02-13-2008, 04:34 PM
It's because the arguments are being made about a company by people who have no knowledge of the company's actual inner workings...

Sonicifyouwantit
02-13-2008, 04:41 PM
It's because the arguments are being made about a company by people who have no knowledge of the company's actual inner workings...

Im still sayin I prefer del taco over taco bell and im stickin with it.

smoke
02-13-2008, 04:50 PM
stagecoach friday is lookin good to me. i might see y'all there.

nbvwes
02-13-2008, 11:57 PM
of course it does! Goldenvoice has to budget all of it, and they are part of AEG who has invested a lot of money in the new nokia theater in LA and that too takes money out of the operation. Although revenues from last years stagecoach would most likely pay for this years stagecoach Im sure money is pulled from many places to put on these events and invest in venues/other investments. Although each fest has its own budget the overall income of goldenvoice is affected. If an umbrella company is feeling financial pain the subs will feel it too. Who says they are feeling any pain though. they are probably doing just fine financially

yeah, except that last year's Stagecoach was (comparitavely) poorly attended and was so poorly organized it's first year that i can't see it's revenue being the justification for a bigger lineup (and a third day added with The Eagles)... if all of what you say is true, then the revenue from last year's Coachella is sitting in someone's pocket, cause they sure as hell didn't shell out the $$ this year for quality BIG names (except Waters), as they know the fest will still be successful either way (whereas Stagecoach needs to turn a profit this year to justify keeping it on every year)...

but, either way, i still think they jewed us...

nbvwes
02-14-2008, 12:00 AM
I can see they've basically eliminated all the alt-country acts that they had last year. Also, I wonder if they are going to have less stages this year. Last year they had 4 (main, outdoor, and two of the tents were in use by bands). Not many people were at the side stages, everyone was crowded around the main stage for all the shitty mainstream acts). I wonder if thats why they're taking the alt acts off for this year.

yeah i know! the alt-country & bluegrass stuff was the best thing about Stage last year (and the crowds were all over at Mane, which was nice for the rest of us)... with the lineup now, there's not really enough for more than main & outdoor (& maybe the big tent)



not free but not overwhelming as well. Id hate to see this stage brought to you by, that stage brought to you by. I dont want to look at an add the whole time im watching an amazing set. Plus Id hate to think those sponsors are adding weight to who is added based on their demographic.

i don't remember seeing any ads anywhere at Coach or Stage last year... except in the beer tents...


Im still sayin I prefer del taco over taco bell and im stickin with it.

word.

nbvwes
02-14-2008, 12:23 AM
It's because the arguments are being made about a company by people who have no knowledge of the company's actual inner workings...

well, i can tell you this:

Business is business. GV isn't different than a hundred other companies who do the same thing (sure they've had some recent success, of course), a company's 'inner workings' have nothing to do with past profit margins & expected future revenue, which is the basis for any proposed budget... you have to justify expenses or else it's just mismanagment... and you have to go on more than blind faith when doing booking or else you'll end up bankrupt when bands dont equal ticket sales... (which is why we only get additions if ticket sales are slow, and none when tickets are selling out; it's costs effective)...

if i'm wrong about what i've been saying, then the pair of fests are the most mismanaged things i've ever seen & Paul should go back to business school...

of course, i think i'm right about everything else i've been saying, so the above need not apply, but would remain the only logical conclusion if i am wrong about what i've said earlier in the thread...

and if you think they spent the same amount of $$ booking this year's Coach bands as they did booking Stage's bands, you're fucking retarded... (but, granted, Coach will probably turn a HUGE profit this year, since attendance won't be hurt that badly, while Stage may not make a huge profit, it'll certainly break even & be hugely successful, enough to justify bringing it back every year in the hopes of turning big profits in the future)

Cpt. Funkaho
02-14-2008, 03:09 AM
I have exactly one thing to contribute to this thread, and that is: Nitty Gritty Dirt Band is a ridiculous add. Can they be a Coachella crossover act this year, please?

M Sparks
02-14-2008, 05:38 AM
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band is a ridiculous add.

Just added...Emmit Otter's Jug Band, and the River Bottom Nightmare band!

Ardentbiscuit
02-14-2008, 06:43 AM
well, i can tell you this:

Business is business. GV isn't different than a hundred other companies who do the same thing (sure they've had some recent success, of course), a company's 'inner workings' have nothing to do with past profit margins & expected future revenue, which is the basis for any proposed budget... you have to justify expenses or else it's just mismanagment... and you have to go on more than blind faith when doing booking or else you'll end up bankrupt when bands dont equal ticket sales... (which is why we only get additions if ticket sales are slow, and none when tickets are selling out; it's costs effective)...

if i'm wrong about what i've been saying, then the pair of fests are the most mismanaged things i've ever seen & Paul should go back to business school...

of course, i think i'm right about everything else i've been saying, so the above need not apply, but would remain the only logical conclusion if i am wrong about what i've said earlier in the thread...

and if you think they spent the same amount of $$ booking this year's Coach bands as they did booking Stage's bands, you're fucking retarded... (but, granted, Coach will probably turn a HUGE profit this year, since attendance won't be hurt that badly, while Stage may not make a huge profit, it'll certainly break even & be hugely successful, enough to justify bringing it back every year in the hopes of turning big profits in the future)

I totally agree with what you are saying, all I am saying is to not assume anything.

I work for a corporation that has many different entities, divisions, brands etc. and the way they break up the expenses and make decisions defies logic many times. That's the reason why I made my comment.

Essentially the money does come from the same source but with a big company like mine and probably similarly with a big company like AEG the way they probably handle the distribution of budgets is probably completely out there and may not affect each other directly.

BROKENDOLL
02-14-2008, 06:57 AM
Stagecoach lineup and tickets went on sale quite awhile before Coachella's if I recall. And, after all this time, they added another day and a large headliner. They're offering upgrades to those that already bought tickets...Now, instead of flipping out over this, keep in mind the 2 1/2 months left before Coachella...Alot could happen...

gaypalmsprings
02-14-2008, 07:02 AM
instead of flipping out over this, keep in mind the 2 1/2 months left before Coachella...Alot could happen...

http://stargazer.files.wordpress.com/2006/02/88066809_3509c0c43f_o.gif

BROKENDOLL
02-14-2008, 07:08 AM
GPS, you cease to amaze me...

nbvwes
02-21-2008, 08:45 AM
lol

instinct
02-21-2008, 11:18 AM
Wow.. I don't even like the Eagles.. but this kind of makes me upset.. I really feel like Coachella got short ended this year.

Ardentbiscuit
02-22-2008, 08:35 AM
I just got an email from Goldenvoice that they have single days tickets available for Stagecoach now, Friday is going to be sooooooooooo sold out....for single day passes at least.

Suffacated
04-15-2008, 09:33 PM
how about without stagecoach there may not be coachella! remember, paul had to come up with a way to keep the festival at the polo grounds and adding a second weekend known as stagecoach is how that happened.

In 3-4 years, it really wont matter.
A new housing sub devision will be where Coachella and Stagecoach once were.

suprefan
04-15-2008, 09:42 PM
In 3-4 years, it really wont matter.
A new housing sub devision will be where Coachella and Stagecoach once were.

And you know this because..............................

Suffacated
04-15-2008, 10:37 PM
And you know this because..............................

Meeting with the City of Indio and the Indio Water authority last week discussing what upgrades are needed to the infrastructure (sewer and water) to support any proposed additional development.

suprefan
04-15-2008, 10:45 PM
Pictures and paperwork or it didnt happen. Also any public access tv vids from youtube would be awesome.

JustSteve
04-16-2008, 08:06 AM
with this market i highly doubt any new construction will be happening out there anytime soon.

Blinken
04-16-2008, 08:08 AM
Noooooo

luckyface
04-16-2008, 08:10 AM
with this market i highly doubt any new construction will be happening out there anytime soon.

What are you talking about? The housing market is BOOMING!

TomAz
04-16-2008, 08:57 AM
In 3-4 years, it really wont matter.
A new housing sub devision will be where Coachella and Stagecoach once were.

this shouldn't come as much of a surprise. that area's been growing like crazy and it's inevitable that that land will be developed. Current slump may delay it a few years I suppose but you can't stop progress.

bballarl
04-16-2008, 09:07 AM
That is going to suck so, so bad when it happens.

Suffacated
04-16-2008, 12:40 PM
I can see Alex Hagen cashing out in 3-4 years.
That doesnt mean that the dozers will come in and start leveling his property right away. But who knows?
As with most of us, I'd like to see it stay as it is.
But as with everything else around here, it's just a matter of time.
I wonder if GV has looked into or made any plans regarding future Coachellas at a different location?
Just across I-10 off of Dillon Rd. up against the hills east of here would be a prime spot.
I know that the city of Coachella will never allow permits for building any permanent structures there due to the numerous active earthquake faults.
That in itself makes for cheap land.
It's up in elevation which makes for some bitching views and I doubt that there would be any noise issues there.
With what GV pays to rent the present Coachella location, wouldnt buying some (cheap) land, leveling it out and planting some grass be worth looking at?
There is already water near by.
Power isnt an issue.....
I dunno.....
Just an idea.....

Sushov23
04-16-2008, 01:02 PM
coachella only has about 2 years left at it's present location. there is going to be development in that area.

TomAz
04-16-2008, 01:04 PM
that makes a lot of sense but what about traffic flow? one little two lane (I'm presuming) road only way in/out?


that was for Suffacated

Suffacated
04-16-2008, 01:16 PM
that makes a lot of sense but what about traffic flow? one little two lane (I'm presuming) road only way in/out?




Yeah...
But not much different than what we deal with now.
The only difference would be that there are no cross streets, stop lights, or other local traffic to deal with.
Just the traffic at the Loves truck stop and what little traffic generated by those living in Indio Hills/Sky Valley.
Im sure that any concert traffic would flow better there than it does now in Indio.

bballarl
04-16-2008, 01:16 PM
As long as they move the festival, rather than eliminating it, I will get over the (eventual) loss of the Polo Grounds.

menikmati
04-16-2008, 01:17 PM
Call ELF, they will stop that housing development.

Suffacated
04-16-2008, 01:19 PM
As long as they move the festival, rather than eliminating it, I will get over the (eventual) loss of the Polo Grounds.

My feelings 100%


Gotta get back to work now.

I'll be in Phoenix in the morning.
Anyone need a ride back to Indio?

bballarl
04-16-2008, 01:19 PM
Also, I suppose that (though not realistic), it is possible that AEG could buy the land. I mean, Phil Anschutz has insane amounts of money. Again, I realize this is not at all realistic, but it could happen.

And I am done talking about the potential loss of the Polo Fields, starting...now.

Ardentbiscuit
04-16-2008, 03:12 PM
I see Michelle Branch was added to Stagecoach Friday...

And yes AEG could buy the land but probably they would build condos like they are doing in downtown LA and then turn the polo field into an outdoor venue / festival site that would be incorporated into a huge entertainment compound.

xuclarockerx
05-01-2012, 11:11 PM
So...was there ever any official sources indicating the polo fields were in danger of being sold? And that Stagecoach was the remedy for that?

suprefan
05-01-2012, 11:27 PM
Are you going to model your next festival after Stagecoach now? Were you interested in buying the property?

JustSteve
05-02-2012, 09:37 AM
So...was there ever any official sources indicating the polo fields were in danger of being sold? And that Stagecoach was the remedy for that?

me.

xuclarockerx
05-02-2012, 10:22 AM
Yes I think you posted that...I was talking more along the lines of an interview/article/document/etc. Just out of curiosity.

Drinkey McDrinkerstein
05-02-2012, 10:45 AM
shut the fuck up already

Goatchella
05-02-2012, 11:02 AM
LULs motherfuckers LULS.

xuclarockerx
05-02-2012, 12:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/z7tGk.png

gaypalmsprings
05-02-2012, 04:03 PM
http://www.toonpool.com/user/4265/files/national_negativity_association_485475.jpg