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BrettShipes
01-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Couldn't find a dedicated thread on this topic so I figured I'd ask you guys for hints on keeping your tent cool enough to sleep past 8am.

And... my pseudo artistic representation of what it feels like...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/cafin8edpenguin/turkeychellasm.jpg

To be fair, the oven door is open to allow a draft...

Bahamut727
01-28-2008, 11:12 PM
i always sleep with the door open. also you could maybe get a battery operated fan?

suprefan
01-28-2008, 11:18 PM
Get a fan, and also a canopy would be a good idea if you can split the cost with your friends.

rage patton
01-28-2008, 11:42 PM
I am gonna get a canopy this year and split the cost with my friends.

And orbit already called camping next to me to steal some of my shade. So of anyone was thinking about it... there goes that idea!

traviscanada
01-29-2008, 12:19 AM
Where can you buy those canopies? Wal Mart? Here in Calgary I would never need much of a canopy so I am not sure. Wal Mart HOPEFULLY should have some that I can buy in palm springs, rather that then take that much more with me down there.

faxman75
01-29-2008, 05:48 AM
Yep, Walmart has canopies.

gaypalmsprings
01-29-2008, 06:21 AM
I'm bringing a can o' peas.

http://www.shopnatural.com/product/20718.jpg

BROKENDOLL
01-29-2008, 06:47 AM
Sweeet...

traviscanada
01-29-2008, 08:41 AM
Trying to decide my whole tent/potential canopy options. I think an army surplus store might have some good stuff, but chances are its bulky/heavy/not going to be within my airplane luggage allowance.

rage patton
01-29-2008, 09:02 AM
You dont need any heavy duty canopies. Just one big enough so that it provides shade for your tent.

westcoastpirate
01-29-2008, 09:36 AM
I just picked up a brand new 10x10 canopy off craigslist for $25 yesterday. You can try that option. It folds down pretty small and fit easily in the trunk of my Honda Civic.

psychic friend
01-29-2008, 10:10 AM
http://www.campmor.com/images/acc/85229.jpg

Magnet secures fan without harming tent material. Strong air movement with 16-hour continuous run time. Soft pliable fan blade. Mountable anywhere. Operates on 1 D-cell battery (not included). Wt. 1.7lbs.

http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=30157413&memberId=12500226

rage patton
01-29-2008, 10:16 AM
Genius! I might invest in one of these...

faxman75
01-29-2008, 10:17 AM
That thing looks tiny, how effective can it be?

faxman75
01-29-2008, 10:20 AM
http://www.kooleraire.com/index.htm

ehh it's the desert though so these are probably worthless.

boarderwoozel3
01-29-2008, 10:37 AM
Any shade device that covers your tent or where your sitting is by far the most effective way to escape the heat... sort of.

I've heard those tent fans don't do much.

Bud Luster
01-29-2008, 10:51 AM
http://www.kooleraire.com/index.htm

ehh it's the desert though so these are probably worthless.

this would actually be great if it ran on batteries other than a 12 volt / required a small generator...

M Sparks
01-29-2008, 10:54 AM
I just got one of these at Target.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WhpaIUY0L._AA280_.jpg

Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Cool-Zephyr-Ceiling-Light/dp/B000MQZODA) has it, $26. It has a light built in.

M Sparks
01-29-2008, 10:56 AM
I've heard those tent fans don't do much.

Not going to "cool it off", but ventilation will help it from getting hotter. Moving air is always better than stagnant in the heat.

dontfeedthebird
01-29-2008, 11:03 AM
It won't cool your tent off, but it helps take the edge off if you think you're about to collapse: an air mattress pump doubles as a fan.

chawns
01-29-2008, 11:08 AM
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4928/cooltenthg7.jpg

blakely
01-29-2008, 11:15 AM
i just bought my store's entire inventory(5) of these guys...

theyre pretty awesome and ill be turning them all on at about 6:00...



http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2284251&cp=2568453.2627946.2627954.2627957&parentPage=family

MonsoonSeason
01-29-2008, 12:08 PM
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4928/cooltenthg7.jpg

exactly

if you're in a 100 degree tent ain't nothing going to cool it down

get out of the tent in the morning and sit under a canopy, drink lots of fluids, and talk to dudes

smoke a bowl if that's your thing

jonnypark
01-29-2008, 12:10 PM
exactly

if you're in a 100 degree tent ain't nothing going to cool it down

get out of the tent in the morning and sit under a canopy, drink lots of fluids, and talk to dudes

smoke a bowl if that's your thing

talking to dudes totally keeps you cool

dontfeedthebird
01-29-2008, 12:20 PM
can we talk to bitches too?

MonsoonSeason
01-29-2008, 12:22 PM
bitches AND hos

fo shos

digitalface
01-29-2008, 03:45 PM
exactly

if you're in a 100 degree tent ain't nothing going to cool it down

get out of the tent in the morning and sit under a canopy, drink lots of fluids, and talk to dudes

smoke a bowl if that's your thing

Yep, with the meager allotment of tent space you get, there's next to NOTHING that can be done if the heat is as bad this year as it was last year. You simply cannot create shade that is deep enough to even handle the temp, let alone sleep. Canopies and fans would have been a damn joke. Saturday it was 105 out there by noon. All of my toiletry bottles melted, folks. MELTED. In '07 your only hope was to get over to the clubhouse as early as possible and stake out a place on the benches or grass to lie down and drink water. And don't forget your electrolytes. A friend had to go find a vendor who would actually give him raw salt so he wouldn't pass out from heat stroke.

Now 2005 wasn't bad when there was actually green grass on the campgrounds (dunno what happened there) and the temps were about 10-15 degrees cooler. Getting on your knees and praying for grass and cooler temps will actually help loads more than silly magnet fans and canopies.

abcd1234
01-29-2008, 05:23 PM
i brought one of those hanging tent fans last year - it did absolutely nothing unless i was holding it 2 inches away from my face. i saw this camping airconditioner on some website though, and all you need is ice...i suppose that could work depending on how you're traveling and how big your tent is.

gaypalmsprings
01-29-2008, 05:29 PM
http://www.lisaanneauerbach.com/projects/smallbusiness/images/Ice.jpg

chiapet
01-29-2008, 05:39 PM
That thing looks tiny, how effective can it be?

They actually help a lot, especially if you use a couple/few of them.

Also, make sure your fly is on your tent while you're gone during the day. Like the canopy, it will shield some of the sunlight and heat.

The canopies help a lot, I'm bringing mine, feel free to share if you beat others out to the spot. :) Those who asked where canopies are sold: Target, Walmart, Kmart, big sporting goods stores. They're with general camping supplies. Make sure yours includes a way to secure it to the ground. It was windy at night and some people's canopies were trying to "take off."

cooperb1
01-30-2008, 12:16 AM
canopies hellp alot and fans as was stated also no blakets help

M Sparks
01-30-2008, 04:20 AM
OK, I have a question about the canopies. My wife and I will be camping by ourselves- first time in the campground. So, doesn't that mean we will get a 8 x 16 space?

All the canopies I can find are at least 10 x 10. Is the whole 8 x 8 thing just an easier way to say 64 square feet? How strict are they...are there actual little squares on the field?

Even our tent is 8 x 8, and it doesn't even seem very big to me. We would have been screwed last year. (or would we?)

Lorelei
01-30-2008, 05:30 AM
I agree about the canopy situation. They're all 10X10. It's throwing me in endless hours of unsuccessful calculation.

gaypalmsprings
01-30-2008, 05:31 AM
This year will be cold & rainy. Also, get plenty of tent stakes because it will be very, very windy.

chiapet
01-30-2008, 06:44 AM
OK, I have a question about the canopies. My wife and I will be camping by ourselves- first time in the campground. So, doesn't that mean we will get a 8 x 16 space?

Yes. And literal squares, yes. If you look at the pictures from the campground, you'll see painted markers on the grass. IIRC, the squares were in lanes of 2 (16' across). They were not strict about you going outside of your space along the length of the lane (meaning, it would be up to you and your neighbor), but they were strict about people going over the width of the rows, since the "lanes" are for fire/crowd control safety. Does that make sense? If not, look at the shots of the campgrounds from last year and you should see how the tents were laid out.

Edited to say: 10'x10' would be fine as long as you aren't sticking 2' out side of the rows, and as long as your neighbor doesn't mind sharing some of your canopy.

M Sparks
01-30-2008, 10:53 AM
Does that make sense? If not, look at the shots of the campgrounds from last year and you should see how the tents were laid out.

It was the photo that was confusing me actually, but your description helped. Mainly, I was looking at the 360 degree picture...I could see the orange lines, but I didn't see the hash marks in between. So, if it was 7x7 last year, that means there's 14' between the orange lines. Much more sense.

Man, I almost had another couple who were going to come with us, but they backed out. It'd be a lot easier if we just had an entire 16 x 16 square.

I'm going to keep looking for an 8' wide canopy. If the people next to you have a small tent, I'm sure they'd be happy to have an extra 2' of shade. But if they have big one stretched across 2 spaces, it may not be possible...the stake would be in the middle of their tent.

M Sparks
01-30-2008, 10:54 AM
Anybody ever just try to hang up some kind of tarp on the east side of their tent to block the morning sun? Just a big wall? I bet wind would be a problem.

M Sparks
01-30-2008, 11:01 AM
8 x 8!
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/elitedeals_1983_363946009

$129 seems a little steep though...

http://www.elitedeals.com/lispshbyca8x.html

sbessiso
01-30-2008, 11:08 AM
i wish i could travel with that thing

janderso
01-30-2008, 05:45 PM
This place has a battery powered air conditioner that holds 4 lbs of ice

http://www.safetycentral.com/coboxpobaopr.html

I wonder if it would be possible to take a little battery operated fan and just aim it into a cooler with some ice? At least a cooler would maintain the ice through the night, so you know you can activate it in the morning.

BlueDevil50
01-30-2008, 07:50 PM
wait...so with 2 people you get 8x16?

i figured it would be 16x16 since one person gets the 8x8...

digitaldragon03
01-30-2008, 08:34 PM
wait...so with 2 people you get 8x16?

i figured it would be 16x16 since one person gets the 8x8...
That is just bad math on your part.

Think about it, you have a 8x8 square and you put another 8x8 square to the right of it. Now, the width has doubled, but the height stays the same.

Gyrus
01-30-2008, 08:50 PM
Cool.... how bout getting this guy into your tent he's as cool as ice ice baby.....

http://www.jacklail.com/blog/archives/vanillaice.jpg

Wheres the beef?
01-30-2008, 09:40 PM
Kingsblends tips to keep the tent cool:

1) Canopies are a must. A 10x10 canopy is OK as there is a 99% chance the people next to you will not have a canopy and will be glad to get in on your shade action.
2) Bring something to drape down the sides of the canopy on the East and South sides. I've seen netting and blankets but I prefer cardboard. Almost anything will do.
3) Tent fans (x2). One pushing air out and one for direct contact.
4) what you want to do is not only keep the tent cool but provide a place to chill out of the sun. A 10x10 canopy for even a 6x8 tent is kind of small. So with that in mind, a 10x10 canopy is not that bad.
5) You can get a canopy for under $40 at Walmart. But if thats too much or you fancy yourself a DIY you can fasion something out of PVC. Just remember to shave the ends that will be going into the ground at at least a 45 degree angle.

M Sparks
01-31-2008, 05:10 AM
Kingsblends tips to keep the tent cool:


5) You can get a canopy for under $40 at Walmart. But if thats too much or you fancy yourself a DIY you can fasion something out of PVC. Just remember to shave the ends that will be going into the ground at at least a 45 degree angle.

Hmmm...I try to stay out of Walmart, but I will drop by today. I haven't seen any canopys under $100. Don't mind gambling for $40.

I've got a pop-up 5' x 7' Chromakey background that would block the sun entirely. Thought about trying to rig it up, but I don't want to wreck it.

M Sparks
01-31-2008, 05:35 AM
wait...so with 2 people you get 8x16?

i figured it would be 16x16 since one person gets the 8x8...

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M Sparks
01-31-2008, 02:19 PM
Kingsblend, you genius! I went to Walmart and got a 8' x 11' "Dining Canopy" for $30.

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/72/70/01/82/0072700182126_500X500.jpg

It's an Ozark Trail, which is a Walmart brand. It's not available online...they had 5 or 6 on the shelves. $30! This is the perfect size if there are only two of you.

When I was trying to find this picture, I found some prick selling the exact same thing on e-Bay for $75.

mrdude5699
01-31-2008, 05:27 PM
look for the man with the hose....he rocks

dontfeedthebird
01-31-2008, 05:36 PM
We had two canopies, taking up more than enough space. But they both became deconstructed in the night.

Bring duct tape. Lots of it.

BlueDevil50
01-31-2008, 08:17 PM
god bless math court...please excuse my major brainfart. after reading the responses i realized last year how much space my brother and i had and ya...my bad

boarderwoozel3
01-31-2008, 09:07 PM
We had two canopies, taking up more than enough space. But they both became deconstructed in the night.

Bring duct tape. Lots of it.

Funny. Good call though. Duct tape is always a good thing to have around in any camping situation.

boarderwoozel3
01-31-2008, 09:10 PM
I think a better name for this thread would be "keeping from burning alive in your tent". Keepig cool isn't going to happen.

BrettShipes
01-31-2008, 09:52 PM
I think a better name for this thread would be "keeping from burning alive in your tent". Keepig cool isn't going to happen.

That is indeed what I meant... "cool enough" to not wish I were dead

Also I've found bringing a small towel to drench in water and keep around the back of your neck works wonders... just don't lose it the first day...

Aside from blinding my neighbors, what do you think covering a canopy in foil would do?

cooperb1
01-31-2008, 11:47 PM
That is indeed what I meant... "cool enough" to not wish I were dead

Aside from blinding my neighbors, what do you think covering a canopy in foil would do?
ummmmmm maby start a fire

emtgreg
02-01-2008, 12:13 AM
That is indeed what I meant... "cool enough" to not wish I were dead

Also I've found bringing a small towel to drench in water and keep around the back of your neck works wonders... just don't lose it the first day...

Aside from blinding my neighbors, what do you think covering a canopy in foil would do?

keep the heat AND the humidity in...

no humidity you say?

your body sweats off at least 2 pints of water in that 12 hour period...

imagine 115 degrees at 100% humidity

you WILL wish you were dead if you do that...

ATamreLion
02-01-2008, 05:31 PM
So this is going to be my first year, but I researched a lot in order to be prepared. I live in a pretty cold place and I just cannot stand to be hot.

Tent (http://www.buzzillions.com/dz_302253_mens_coleman_tioga_3_8_x_tent_reviews)
A/C (http://www.safetycentral.com/coboxpobaopr.html)
Fan (http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Cool-Zephyr-Window-Fan/dp/B000J04AHA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1201919132&sr=1-4)
Bed (http://www.amazon.com/Wenger-WG155-500-Self-inflating-Mat/dp/B00070QDRW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1201779543&sr=1-6)

A Coleman Geosport Canopy over me and my four friends and a heat resistant tarp to the east.
No Blankets.
Plenty of water.

beckylyn
02-01-2008, 07:36 PM
Couldn't find a dedicated thread on this topic so I figured I'd ask you guys for hints on keeping your tent cool enough to sleep past 8am.



last year we bought a box fan at walmart for $10 - it was awesome. kept the air circulating and almost felt cool. i kept a squirt bottle in the tent and if i felt hot would spray myself. the air from the fan plus the water felt kinda like an air conditioner. the 10x10 quikshade canopy is also an awesome idea i'll be using this year.

liddyloo19
02-06-2008, 11:49 AM
bitches AND hos

fo shos

i resent that , brother from another mother.

Courtney
02-06-2008, 11:57 AM
Kingsblend, you genius! I went to Walmart and got a 8' x 11' "Dining Canopy" for $30.

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/72/70/01/82/0072700182126_500X500.jpg

It's an Ozark Trail, which is a Walmart brand. It's not available online...they had 5 or 6 on the shelves. $30! This is the perfect size if there are only two of you.

That's a nice find.


A/C (http://www.safetycentral.com/coboxpobaopr.html)

I'd be interested to hear if this works after you try it out in April.

allyjoy
02-06-2008, 03:06 PM
I'm getting my coachella cherry popped this year, but a friend of mine went last year. I don't mind heat, I grew up without air conditioning, but he hates it! We're macguyver with our plans:

4 tent fans
2-3 mister fans
reflective blanket on the east side of the tent

:thu

DaFunkyPrecedent
02-06-2008, 03:43 PM
im so fuckin high on whatever the heat doesn't matter....try eatting more drugs this year.

Wheres the beef?
02-06-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm getting my coachella cherry popped this year, but a friend of mine went last year. I don't mind heat, I grew up without air conditioning, but he hates it! We're macguyver with our plans:

4 tent fans
2-3 mister fans
reflective blanket on the east side of the tent

:thu

Excellent plan! I also recommend something for the south side too. :)

greghead
02-11-2008, 02:08 PM
I'm sure I am the 100th person to say this, but the only answer is to buy a canopy tent, or concoct one using tarps. You will absolutely not regret it. Neither will everyone camping around you.

mstrkrftwrk
02-15-2008, 01:31 PM
last year we got emergency blankets and put them over our tents in the morning which reflected alot of the heat and used fans. i helped us out ALOT.

marfawkah02
02-17-2008, 10:41 AM
just make sure you have an ice chest dedicated to ice and drinks. fans, cause just one will NOT work unless you sitting right next to it. if the weather is anything like it was last year, im guessing hotter. if thats not good for you, then you shouldnt be camping in the 1st place

M Sparks
02-17-2008, 11:36 AM
I've been trying to figure out what to hang on the canopy for shade. It seems like tarps on 2 sides plus the top would make a big sweatbox.

Meyouseek said camo net, but it seems like that more holes than shade.

I finally just went to a fabric store and bought some cheap, dark green fabric. $10 for a single piece...21 feet by 3 1/2 feet. It won't hang all the way down, which will help airflow down low, and shouldn't be an issue after 7:30 am or so. It's shouldn't trap the humidity. Hopefully there will be another tent to the east, rather than an aisle.

rage patton
02-17-2008, 12:10 PM
As long as you have something hanging down on your canopy that faces the direction the sun rises, relative to your tent, you should be fine. Shouldn't you? I dont know, this will be my first year using a canopy.
I would think you only need to cover the side where the sun rises so that it block out a little extra height. Putting covers on the other 3 sides would be unneccessary in order to keep the heat out in the morning.

M Sparks
02-17-2008, 01:46 PM
As long as you have something hanging down on your canopy that faces the direction the sun rises, relative to your tent, you should be fine. Shouldn't you? I dont know, this will be my first year using a canopy.
I would think you only need to cover the side where the sun rises so that it block out a little extra height. Putting covers on the other 3 sides would be unneccessary in order to keep the heat out in the morning.

Yeah, my canopy is 8' x 11'. I'm going to hang the fabric down the East and South sides. 21' gives me 2 feet to spare

greghead
02-18-2008, 11:08 PM
As long as you have something hanging down on your canopy that faces the direction the sun rises, relative to your tent, you should be fine. Shouldn't you? I dont know, this will be my first year using a canopy.
I would think you only need to cover the side where the sun rises so that it block out a little extra height. Putting covers on the other 3 sides would be unneccessary in order to keep the heat out in the morning.

Only do the east side, any others will be entirely unnecessary. You will most likely be leaving your camp when the sun is still high overhead, meaning only in the morning are you in a position to get blasted by the sun from a low angle. Usually, I'm not up and around until 9 or 10 (after 7 I sleep outside my tent in the shade on the west side, very cool and comfy) and by that time the sun is already being blocked by the canopy, you just have to move your chair a little bit to make sure you are in the shade.

No matter what you do, it is going to be hotter than hell out there, all of these tips are just to make it enjoyable. If you abhor the idea of sweating profusely while you hang out in the shade with your shirt off, don't camp.

Bud Luster
02-19-2008, 10:55 AM
I've been trying to figure out what to hang on the canopy for shade. It seems like tarps on 2 sides plus the top would make a big sweatbox.

Meyouseek said camo net, but it seems like that more holes than shade.

We use a camo net too. It really is to enhance the shade canopy and increase the shade and your privacy. They work well actually. mine is 10 X 20 so its friggin huge and we double it up sometimes.

fatbastard
02-19-2008, 11:46 AM
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/images/redneck_car_air_conditioner.jpg

BlueDevil50
02-19-2008, 11:50 AM
haha that's classy...

BeHereNOW
02-19-2008, 06:19 PM
wtf is a canopy ? =/

M Sparks
02-20-2008, 10:20 AM
wtf is a canopy ? =/

Seriously man, it's only a three page thread...

greghead
02-20-2008, 12:24 PM
wtf is a canopy ? =/

A canopy is defined in OED as an overhanging shelter. Figure it out dude.

oooduga
02-20-2008, 12:26 PM
im so fuckin high on whatever the heat doesn't matter....try eatting more drugs this year.

Smoking joints actually did help with the heat...made me tolerate it a little more.

greghead
02-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Smoking joints actually did help with the heat...made me tolerate it a little more.

Fuck yeah, man. Spark some OG Kush, and I have no problems with anything

BlueDevil50
03-06-2008, 04:59 PM
just picked up an awesome coleman 15'x15' canopy at walmart on clearance for $50...ive been eyeing it all week online for $75 so i was pretty stoked to see it on clearance

greghead
03-06-2008, 05:17 PM
just picked up an awesome coleman 15'x15' canopy at walmart on clearance for $50...ive been eyeing it all week online for $75 so i was pretty stoked to see it on clearance

Nice score!