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menikmati
01-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Create A Festival - Round #3 - Fringe Beach vs. Lacuna Festival

Okay, here is the seventh match of the third round. You're voting on which festival you like the best. Take into account any type of factor(s) you want. Which bands you like the best. The location. The ticket price. The extras. Pretend if you had one choice of going to a festival, and you were gonna spend your money on one of these, which would it be? Whatever the case, you're voting one of these into the next round!

Voting will last 3 days, and you're only allowed to vote if you have 200 posts or more (votes are public, so I'll know, so don't waste your time if you have less than 200 - unless you've entered a poster yourself). And NO alias voting. If I even suspect you to be an alias, you're votes won't count (sorry bug, abe, granny and more).

Please note, the winner of this round will move onto Round 4, which is the first round that will start including set times...so reminder: WHOEVER WINS THIS CONTEST, REMEMBER YOU SUBMIT SETTIMES FOR THE NEXT ROUND (I'LL EMAIL YOU INFO).

Choice #1

Fringe Beach Festival

http://www.ebombfilms.com/createafestival/finalposters/fringe_n.jpg

Location: Fiji
Ticket Price: $183.25
Reunion Band: Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band
Onsite Camping
No Noise Curfew
Open Taping

Choice #2

Lacuna Festival

http://www.ebombfilms.com/createafestival/finalposters/lacuna_g.jpg

Location: Montauk, New York
Ticket Price: $180.00
Reunion Band: Eric B. and Rakim
Onsite Camping
No Noise Curfew
Open Taping

woogie846
01-16-2008, 06:02 PM
Fringe Beach, better overall line up.

Plus, The Aquabats on the sand sounds like the coolest thing ever.

betao
01-16-2008, 06:03 PM
It is very hard for me to vote against a festival with both Prodigy and Ulrich Schnauss...

But the EDM sections of Lacuna are solid. Plus, I'd love to see m83, Sigur Ros, BoC, Battles, and UNKLE.

Lacuna for the win.

Courtney
01-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Montauk would be a very nice location for a festival.

suprefan
01-16-2008, 06:07 PM
Props to the Eternal Sunshine references, gotta think this over, but leaning towards Lacuna.

sonofhal
01-16-2008, 06:13 PM
I'm liking the Lacuna lineup mainly because of the old school acts (and having some originality)

menikmati
01-16-2008, 06:21 PM
The Chemical Brothers, Rabbit in the Moon, Deep Dish, Erol Alkan, Adam Freeland, SMD, Sasha and Digweed, The Avalanches, MSTRKRFT, Boys Noize, Modeselektor...and that's seemingly ONLY the dance tent? I'm sold.

nocigarettes
01-16-2008, 06:26 PM
lacuna

JustSteve
01-16-2008, 07:40 PM
airfare to fiji and back is like a grand at the low end, may want to take that into consideration...i did.

Somewhat Damaged
01-16-2008, 07:54 PM
Props to the Eternal Sunshine references, gotta think this over, but leaning towards Lacuna.

Hah, didn't notice that till you mentioned it. The only things Lacuna's missing in that vein, then, is Beck (oh, how great it'd be for him to be accompanied by Jon Brion on "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime") and a tagline like "A Weekend You'll Never Forget" (or something similarly goofy).
I'm surprised by some of the overlapping artists: Bowie and Okkervil River are to be expected, and it's interesting that Fringe Beach has Portishead as a sub-headliner while Lacuna has them as a headliner, but I haven't seen Black Angels, Puscifer, Jamiroquai, or Modeselektor on many posters thus far, so to see them on both of these is unexpected.
Taking out the artists that are on both festivals, I'm interested in 19 of Fringe Beach's acts and 43 of Lacuna's. I wonder how Fringe Beach, which has 60 acts total compared to Lacuna's 72, winds up costing more. Was an overseas locale more costly than one in the States? I mean, it's not the biggest deal, but even if the decision was any tougher, the fact that I wouldn't have to fly halfway across the world to see Lacuna would get my vote over Fringe Beach.
Can't wait to see the set times for Lacuna 'cause the potential for heart-wrenching conflicts seems brutal.

i_like_cake530
01-16-2008, 08:35 PM
Modest Mouse playing Lonesome Crowded West? Dusty Rhodes and the River Band? Im Sold.

rage patton
01-16-2008, 08:42 PM
Modest Mouse playing Lonesome Crowded West? Dusty Rhodes and the River Band? Im Sold.

Haha yeah man! Thats what I was thinking. I love Dustry Rhodes! Also, The Lonesome Crowded West is my fav Modest Mouse album.

Both of these festivals have similar acts too. David Bowie, Portishead, Jamiroquai, Lemon Jelly, Modeselektor, Puscifer, Ween, Erol Alkan, Okkervil River, Black Angels, Boyz Noice and The Avalanches.

However, I am liking the diverse acts like The Aqubats, Flogging Molly, Tiger Army and Rezurex. But Lacuna does have Afrika Bambaata...

Both are good line ups... but Madness, the Prodigy and Captain Beefheart most definately tip the scales for me.

i_like_cake530
01-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Ya I saw them opening for Flogging Molly, and it was just pure awesomeness. I especially like how every member is a complete misfit. The lead singer is this slightly overweight guy with a huge curly poodle haircut...the bassist is an asian with a big ass mustache....the guitarist shreds and its just funny looking cause from what i remember he's also this asian guy...although i guess that makes sense cause asian people are crazy. and the drummer has this fat white guy afro sorta thing going on.

i_like_cake530
01-16-2008, 08:52 PM
Haha yeah man! Thats what I was thinking. I love Dustry Rhodes! Also, The Lonesome Crowded West is my fav Modest Mouse album.

Both of these festivals have similar acts too. David Bowie, Portishead, Jamiroquai, Lemon Jelly, Modeselektor, Puscifer, Ween, Erol Alkan, Okkervil River, Black Angels, Boyz Noice and The Avalanches.

However, I am liking the diverse acts like The Aqubats, Flogging Molly, Tiger Army and Rezurex. But Lacuna does have Afrika Bambaata...

Both are good line ups... but Madness, the Prodigy and Captain Beefheart most definately tip the scales for me.

also, i was thinking the same thing...these festivals are very similar and very evenly matched, but Fringe has the slight advantage Lonesome Crowded West and Dusty Rhodes.

ttboy80
01-17-2008, 12:47 AM
Anyone with Capitan Beefheart gets my vote!

Boourns
01-17-2008, 12:55 AM
Wow, both of these are awesome festivals. Kudos to both for having the beloved Asobi Seksu. Lacuna has more acts I want to see (because it has more acts period, so both are about the same percentagewise) but I have to go with Fringe for Thom Yorke, the Captain Beefheart reunion, having the balls to book a divisive headliner like Oasis, and a guarantee of hearing little or no new Modest Mouse material.

Thom Yorke solo has been surprisingly underused in this contest.

paulb
01-17-2008, 01:01 AM
prodigy....fringe

paulb
01-17-2008, 01:33 AM
Having Portishead as a headliner is weak considering at Fringe you got Portishead playing into David Bowie...

Cpt. Funkaho
01-17-2008, 01:42 AM
Jesus H. Christ we need a moratorium on Radiohead, Prince, and David Bowie as headliners.

paulb
01-17-2008, 02:01 AM
Jesus H. Christ we need a moratorium on Radiohead, Prince, and David Bowie as headliners.

so, why did u vote for Lacuna?

waxybk
01-17-2008, 05:09 AM
They should totally do a festival in Montauk, NY. It is beautiful there. I grew up going there a lot as a kid. Totally an amazing place.

betao
01-17-2008, 06:50 AM
I would die laughing if the headliners for coach this year were Prince, Radiohead, and David Bowie.

PassiveTheory
01-17-2008, 07:19 PM
EDIT: I'm going to go over these two in a little while.

paulb
01-18-2008, 02:02 PM
I see someone with less than 200 votes voted for Lacuna...recount.

Somewhat Damaged
01-18-2008, 08:48 PM
4 people with less than 200 posts voted for Lacuna. Doesn't matter -- it's still winning by double digits without those votes. And for the record, 4 people whose votes don't count (either they have less than 200 posts or, in Abe Lincoln's case, are thought to be an alias and disqualified by menik) voted for Fringe Beach, so it's more like 32 to 17 at this point. I think it's interesting that most of the comments in this thread would suggest that Fringe Beach is winning but it really isn't even close in the opposite direction.

rage patton
01-18-2008, 11:09 PM
I really thought this one would have been closer. Both share the share a good number of acts. Also, Lacuna has the typical David Bowie/Prince combo. Fringe Beach does have David Bowie, but it also has Bjork (who has only been used in 1 other festival I believe) and Oasis, who hasn't been used at all. I dunno. Both are damn good line ups. But I thought this one was going to end up something like Baja vs. Pemberton.

Somewhat Damaged
01-18-2008, 11:22 PM
You talk about Bowie and Prince as though they're the only two people on the lineup. There's 70 other fucking artists! That's the thing that irks me about the way people are harping on Radiohead/Bowie/Prince/whoever the fuck else as being unoriginal. Uhm, it's not like everybody involved in the contest knew what acts other people were going to be using or else I bet there would've been a lot less posters with Bowie and Prince headlining. And even with that, as I mentioned in the Cascade/Ayahuasca thread, what's interesting is seeing who the creators of the festivals scheduled to play into the headliner. Broken Social Scene -> Portishead -> David Bowie is pretty different than Devo -> Boards of Canada -> David Bowie.

PassiveTheory
01-19-2008, 10:50 AM
You talk about Bowie and Prince as though they're the only two people on the lineup. There's 70 other fucking artists! That's the thing that irks me about the way people are harping on Radiohead/Bowie/Prince/whoever the fuck else as being unoriginal. Uhm, it's not like everybody involved in the contest knew what acts other people were going to be using or else I bet there would've been a lot less posters with Bowie and Prince headlining. And even with that, as I mentioned in the Cascade/Ayahuasca thread, what's interesting is seeing who the creators of the festivals scheduled to play into the headliner. Broken Social Scene -> Portishead -> David Bowie is pretty different than Devo -> Boards of Canada -> David Bowie.

You do realize that last year's winner had Bowie and Radiohead, right? In fact, I think 3 of the competing posters in the last contest had both.

It is pretty damn unoriginal. And I mean, when it's your headliners, the bands you put in huge, bold print to sell your festival, I think people have a damn right to assert whether or not they're unoriginal or not because those bands are your selling point!

Also, I've resolved to vote for Fringe Beach because I would like to see Oasis live, and Fringe's full lineup Sunday beats any day on Lacuna.

Somewhat Damaged
01-19-2008, 01:05 PM
You do realize that last year's winner had Bowie and Radiohead, right? In fact, I think 3 of the competing posters in the last contest had both.

It is pretty damn unoriginal. And I mean, when it's your headliners, the bands you put in huge, bold print to sell your festival, I think people have a damn right to assert whether or not they're unoriginal or not because those bands are your selling point!

Also, I've resolved to vote for Fringe Beach because I would like to see Oasis live, and Fringe's full lineup Sunday beats any day on Lacuna.

No, I didn't pay attention to the festival contest last year 'cause it wasn't till September or so that I started venturing into the Lounge.

So who were the original headliners that you had on your poster last year, Passive? How obscure and daring did you go, and how far did you advance?

There aren't very many acts who I would get excited about if they were to headline Coachella. I can see the potential of No Doubt and the White Stripes headlining this year, and while I'd probably catch portions of both of their sets (depending on who they were up against), it wouldn't excite me the way David Bowie or Radiohead would. Such is the case for these contests: I'd like to see Iggy and the Stooges or Neutral Milk Hotel in concert, but having them as the headliners of a festival isn't going to garner my vote simply because they're not the headliners on any other festival. Same thing with the Razzle: I'll grant you that it was more original to have Smashing Pumpkins, Massive Attack, and Led Zeppelin as its headliners, but I don't care for this incarnation of the Pumpkins and have never been a fan of LZ besides a few of their singles, so why the fuck would I vote for it based solely on its originality of headliners? People are going to vote for who they would be most excited to see. It's perfectly valid of you to vote for Fringe Beach because you want to see Oasis live and that's the festival that would grant you the opportunity to do so; voting for it simply because it didn't have Prince as its headliner would have been pretty cheap.

PassiveTheory
01-19-2008, 01:13 PM
Oh I lost in the first round last year. Mainly because I had RHCP as my Sat. headliner (Pixies Fri., Tool Sun., and because I threw a fit and revealed that it was my festival, instantly garnering a plethora of votes against me), but also because I faced Bosco's ace Muertos festival in the first round; A poster with original headliners (in Gorillaz and John Williams), a great location, and amazing design. Yes, it did have Bowie as the closer, and yeah, I have had no problem voting for festivals that have one of the over-saturated headliners (I voted for Fringe and it has Bowie) but 2-3 just screams "meh" to me.

Maybe I have higher expectations for the board members, and perhaps this was a terrible year for headliner choices (maybe this is because Erik banned The Smiths, Floyd and Talking Heads... Damn him), but I feel it's a damn shame that people, inexplicably, went for such obvious headliner choices.

Somewhat Damaged
01-19-2008, 01:28 PM
Based solely on the headliners, I would've voted against your poster, too, and not due to any malice I have towards you (I really don't have any towards anyone on this board, as contentious as I may sound on occasion) but because none of your headliners excite me all that much. (I like the Pixies but wouldn't cream myself to see them atop a festival line-up.)
I think the budget system and the sub-headliners list probably served to hinder some people's ideas for their posters. I had one day all set up that I had to completely scrap after Thom Yorke and a couple other acts were added to the sub-headliners list and thus caused my festival cost to skyrocket. When you've got only so much money to play around with, it shouldn't be a surprise that some people are going to opt for what they feel are sure bets.

PassiveTheory
01-19-2008, 01:34 PM
Yeah, and I understand that. But last year I went with some acts that don't fit the board aesthetic, and, I mean, I lost the 2nd place poster, so I don't feel bad about what transpired.

You think the budget system screwed some people over? How do you think I felt when Erik was like "Ok, no Smiths" and my festival, which pretty much revolved around the Smiths at that point, was totally butt-fucked? It sucked, but I definitely feel like I wasn't compelled to add Radiohead in their place because they'd be an equivalent draw.

Anyway, if you'd like to continue this conversation, PM me (or IM me), otherwise I'm going to get back to voting for the other festivals.

breakjaw
01-19-2008, 05:41 PM
I stuck with Fringe on this one,mainly because of the diversity of the undercard.I also love it's poster,one of my favorite in the entire contest...