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Stefinitely Maybe
11-30-2007, 06:14 AM
Okay I'm sure you guys must have heard about this in the news: a British woman was in Sudan working as a teacher and she asked the little kids in her class to come up with a name for a teddybear which they would all share amongst themselves, to learn about responsibility, etc. One kid named Mohammed suggested that they name the bear after him, and the rest of the class voted in agreement, so they named it Mohammed. The teacher was initially cautious, as this also happens to be the name of the Islamic prophet, but she checked with parents, and figured it was just a bear, and went ahead and named it Mohammed.

She has now been jailed for 14 days, and thousands of Sudanese people are marching on the streets, demanding that she be given the death penalty. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7121025.stm)

I don't think I have ever heard anything quite so ridiculous in my life. Do you think the same would happen if a Sudanese teacher came to the UK And named a teddybear "Jesus"? I really hope not...

clarky123
11-30-2007, 06:24 AM
You are inciting a religious argument\free discussion just by talking about naming a Teddy Bear as the prophet......thats 200 lashes.

captncrzy
11-30-2007, 06:24 AM
Bomb them all.

clarky123
11-30-2007, 06:35 AM
I think she deserved to do a "Little bit of time" inside for being bloody stupid enough to go there in the first place and 14 days seems fair.

shakermaker113
11-30-2007, 06:39 AM
I think she deserved to do a "Little bit of time" inside for being bloody stupid enough to go there in the first place and 14 days seems fair.

14 days is one thing. the death sentence is quite another.

Stefinitely Maybe
11-30-2007, 06:44 AM
You seriously think someone deserves 14 DAYS IN PRISON for a bad decision in letting some kids name a teddybear???

clarky123
11-30-2007, 06:49 AM
14 days is one thing. the death sentence is quite another.

They have stopped well short of that and deport her after 14 days, she should be happy. You are of course correct, could have been worse, she could have had her head chopped off.

kreutz2112
11-30-2007, 06:53 AM
Lets pretend kill the teddy bear.

marooko
11-30-2007, 06:58 AM
I think she deserved to do a "Little bit of time" inside for being bloody stupid enough to go there in the first place and 14 days seems fair.

i cant believe this.

Bluesky
11-30-2007, 07:00 AM
I think she deserved to do a "Little bit of time" inside for being bloody stupid enough to go there in the first place and 14 days seems fair.

I think too that she should have been aware of this type of issue before she moved there amoungst the extremists, but she did check with everyone involved with The Bear first.

It's bloody ridiculous, though, and no, this wouldn't have happened in America or the UK, unless it looked like this:

<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/greengirl148/ted.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

I don't understand why kids aren't allowed to call a toy Muhammed or draw a picture of it/him/her, or put it into any kind of form, yet it's ok to call your kids Muhammed. Crazy.

clarky123
11-30-2007, 07:04 AM
You seriously think someone deserves 14 DAYS IN PRISON for a bad decision in letting some kids name a teddybear???

Not really. But theirs is not a democracy. In this case I will ask you "Do you think 14 days in prison is preferable to a Beheading\Lashing\Both, and would you not happily take that 14 DAYS IN PRISON given that their country and culture is filled with murdering psycopaths?"

marooko
11-30-2007, 07:05 AM
Not really. But theirs is not a democracy. In this case I will ask you "Do you think 14 days in prison is preferable to a Beheading\Lashing\Both, and would you not happily take that 14 DAYS IN PRISON given that their country and culture is filled with murdering psycopaths?"

thats not the argument people are arguing.

clarky123
11-30-2007, 07:07 AM
Really, Oh fuck! make way for Einstein!
Gotta go.

Yablonowitz
11-30-2007, 07:10 AM
Pardon my daftness - what is it exactly that they are offended by? Obviously they are OK with naming people Muhammed, why is that any less insulting than a teddy bear? Most teddy bears are cuter than people anyway. And if I were religious, I'd want my God to be cute and cuddly.

brando4n82
11-30-2007, 07:11 AM
You seriously think someone deserves 14 DAYS IN PRISON for a bad decision in letting some kids name a teddybear???

In America? No.
In Sudan? Well I am not familiar with their customs and such, but it seems like it is not the best idea to be naming stuffed animals after the prophet. It is ridiculous yes. But I'm not going to argue how another country should be ran.
On the other hand, the parents did OK the idea though, so there really should not be a problem. if the teacher is being held responsible, then so should those parents.

Yablonowitz
11-30-2007, 07:40 AM
Also, if the parents and the child agreed to this, why don't they kill them? They have no excuse...they're muslim...they should have known! KILL THE KID AND THE PARENTS!!!! KILL THEM!!!

kreutz2112
11-30-2007, 07:42 AM
The obvious video clip:

SBC-KAHQ3_0

Stefinitely Maybe
11-30-2007, 07:45 AM
Also, if the parents and the child agreed to this, why don't they kill them? They have no excuse...they're muslim...they should have known! KILL THE KID AND THE PARENTS!!!! KILL THEM!!!

Because the teacher is the one who allowed it to happen.

...but surely the all-powerful prophet Mohammed is the one who allowed the teacher to allow it to happen, ultimately!?

KILL MOHAMMED!!!

PassiveTheory
11-30-2007, 07:46 AM
Sudan is one fucked up place...

Yablonowitz
11-30-2007, 07:50 AM
Because the teacher is the one who allowed it to happen.

...but surely the all-powerful prophet Mohammed is the one who allowed the teacher to allow it to happen, ultimately!?

KILL MOHAMMED!!!

Way to go Rushdie.

SFChrissy
11-30-2007, 07:53 AM
Please dont ban me for typing...fuckingsandnigers!!! Hate me if you think I'm racist but love me for my honesty at least...

marooko
11-30-2007, 08:03 AM
hahahah

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 08:13 AM
Please dont ban me for typing...fuckingsandnigers!!! Hate me if you think I'm racist but love me for my honesty at least...

The brilliance of a burnt out old Chicano cunt shines through once again.

marooko
11-30-2007, 08:16 AM
The brilliance of a burnt out old Chicano cunt shines through once again.

isnt it chicana?

canexplain
11-30-2007, 08:16 AM
The brilliance of a burnt out old Chicano cunt shines through once again.

that was kind of harsh for a friday and a payday :) canx**

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 08:17 AM
isnt it chicana?

not sure in her/his case, just being honest.

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 08:18 AM
that was kind of harsh for a friday and a payday :) canx**

Calling a race of people "sandniggers" because you dont like what they do isnt harsh?

canexplain
11-30-2007, 08:25 AM
Calling a race of people "sandniggers" because you dont like what they do isnt harsh?

well ya J Dollar, but being personal is bad too .... i know i dont know sfc, so i have no clue what she is really like ... canx**

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 08:27 AM
I know it was more of comparison factoring, some people dont like to be called sandniggers some dont like to be called burnt out old cunts, but if we are "just being honest" lets tell it like it is.

marooko
11-30-2007, 08:30 AM
well since we're being all honset and shit, i think i just sharted.

canexplain
11-30-2007, 08:35 AM
I know it was more of comparison factoring, some people dont like to be called sandniggers some dont like to be called burnt out old cunts, but if we are "just being honest" lets tell it like it is.

well since we are all being honest, hope you arent pissed because i am going to be .... hey gang, J$$$'s girlfriend told me , he is the nicest, kindest man she has ever known, and she was so happy to be with him .... lol see he is just a teddy bear too ... canx**

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 08:40 AM
Im going to hug you next time I see you.

SFChrissy
11-30-2007, 08:42 AM
I know it was more of comparison factoring, some people dont like to be called sandniggers some dont like to be called burnt out old cunts, but if we are "just being honest" lets tell it like it is.

I appreciate your point and the comparison of chicana/o vs sandniggers is just as racist seeing how it is a racial label the Nixon organization blessed all mexican americans with...and I'm not speaking in reference of the ones that illegally cross the borders to have their children here or to reach for more fruitful life...I'm talking about the ones that were here long before a border existed.

But then again...I'm no pushing for her to get 40 lashes either...which is ignorent to wish on someone for educating your children...

But what do I know since your oppinion of me would presumably indicate i'm a burnt out old cunt...See You Next Tuesday Jmoney

Yablonowitz
11-30-2007, 09:48 AM
that was kind of harsh for a friday and a payday :) canx**

OK, just so I get this straight - it's LESS harsh for someone to call an entire country (or religion or whatever) sandnigers (sic) based on the actions of a fraction of the extreme fundamentalists in the country/religion than it is for J$ to call the racial spouter a burned-out cunt?

Apparently, SFChrissy is in your monkeysphere.

Also, you lose two hippie points. Sorry.

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 10:00 AM
The one thing I still can't forgive the spics for is their relentless racism against sand niggers.

marooko
11-30-2007, 10:02 AM
OK, just so I get this straight - it's LESS harsh for someone to call an entire country (or religion or whatever) sandnigers (sic) based on the actions of a fraction of the extreme fundamentalists in the country/religion than it is for J$ to call the racial spouter a burned-out cunt?

Apparently, SFChrissy is in your monkeysphere.

Also, you lose two hippie points. Sorry.

kinda like its ok to bash christians but not muslims, or americans but not sudanese?

canexplain
11-30-2007, 10:03 AM
OK, just so I get this straight - it's LESS harsh for someone to call an entire country (or religion or whatever) sandnigers (sic) based on the actions of a fraction of the extreme fundamentalists in the country/religion than it is for J$ to call the racial spouter a burned-out cunt?

Apparently, SFChrissy is in your monkeysphere.

Also, you lose two hippie points. Sorry.

oh no , i need all the points i can :(.... no sfc statement was off the hook, but it was so out there, i didnt see a need to even comment about how crude and dumb it was ... but between friends or the board, its different ... to tell you the truth though yablo, after i posted it, J$$$'s comment was just a day in a life comment around here lol ... canx**

Ardentbiscuit
11-30-2007, 10:04 AM
Things like this happen all the time when religious extremists are involved. I can't believe anyone is shocked. Remember the huge controversy over the French comics...

We have people who are this extreme in the United States but they aren't anywhere near where I live so I don't really notice it.

summerkid
11-30-2007, 10:08 AM
I'm sorry, but if you move to another country you have to abide by their laws no matter how ridiculous you think they are. Nobody should be up in arms about this its their fucking country let them run it how they see fit.

Yablonowitz
11-30-2007, 10:09 AM
oh no , i need all the points i can :(.... no sfc statement was off the hook, but it was so out there, i didnt see a need to even comment about how crude and dumb it was ... but between friends or the board, its different ... to tell you the truth though yablo, after i posted it, J$$$'s comment was just a day in a life comment around here lol ... canx**

Nah, I get it canxey. CFchrissy is in your Monkey Sphere. (http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html)

Credit to adamnikyo for showing me this.

SFChrissy
11-30-2007, 10:40 AM
The accumulative statements comedown to honesty, cruelty, genocide, corporal abuse and ignorance…

Yayyy lets celebrate on how we’ve ALL advanced out of the monkeysphere!!!

So if my statement is soo off the hook and we all have a common interest by participating on this board...then show me a perspective that will set me straight which provides an opportunity of growth...instead of assuming I'm what you've insinuated.

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 10:41 AM
I think the problem with the monkeysphere theory is that all brown people are the same.

marooko
11-30-2007, 11:03 AM
ok howard, calm down.

Yablonowitz
11-30-2007, 11:17 AM
The accumulative statements comedown to honesty, cruelty, genocide, corporal abuse and ignorance…

Yayyy lets celebrate on how we’ve ALL advanced out of the monkeysphere!!!

So if my statement is soo off the hook and we all have a common interest by participating on this board...then show me a perspective that will set me straight which provides an opportunity of growth...instead of assuming I'm what you've insinuated.

I don't know what you are. I don't what anyone is. Anytime I've said otherwise, I was fibbing.

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 11:21 AM
EDIT: Fuck aLL BEARS. Especially Grizzly.

Mr.Nipples
11-30-2007, 11:22 AM
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algunz
11-30-2007, 11:30 AM
I think you're all a bunch of wankers.

Oh, and I think all extremists should be shot.

PotVsKtl
11-30-2007, 11:38 AM
The accumulative statements comedown to honesty, cruelty, genocide, corporal abuse and ignorance…

Yayyy lets celebrate on how we’ve ALL advanced out of the monkeysphere!!!

So if my statement is soo off the hook and we all have a common interest by participating on this board...then show me a perspective that will set me straight which provides an opportunity of growth...instead of assuming I'm what you've insinuated.

Listen you floppy bint, you don't get to puff up all indignant when you get called on your vapid bullshit.

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 11:40 AM
Points for use of the British colloquialism "bint."

summerkid
11-30-2007, 11:43 AM
I think you're all a bunch of wankers.

Oh, and I think all extremists should be shot.

ah, anyone who doesn't think like you should be killed eh? I don't understand why we try to put our laws and morals on these groups of people its their land not ours.

algunz
11-30-2007, 11:45 AM
ah, anyone who doesn't think like you should be killed eh? I don't understand why we try to put our laws and morals on these groups of people its their land not ours.

It was sarcasm. I guess you couldn't smell it.

I was trying to point out the ridiculousness of most of the "opinions" on this thread.

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 11:52 AM
Gunz, why the fuck did you explain it? You're not allowed to do that. It was beautiful the way it was, now that you made sense to him it's ruined. FUCKING RUINED.

algunz
11-30-2007, 11:54 AM
Ooops, sorry.

PassiveTheory
11-30-2007, 12:00 PM
We're an international community, Dylan, if we play that isolationist bullshit, it's just going to keep the world apart and human rights offenses will occur for decades on decades until rulers get bored of torturing and killing their own people that they decide to invade other countries... And response really only comes if said human rights offending nation attacks a nation of actual economic significance to the US... So with our government (and, by extension, the British and now the French) taking a campy backseat role in terms of when/where to involve our troops, we have to take up the cause in terms of securing basic human rights (self-expression) without totally changing a country's laws and regulations (war).

Ill_Eagle
11-30-2007, 12:00 PM
EDIT: Fuck aLL BEARS. Especially Grizzly.

And the Chicago Bearssssssss

brando4n82
11-30-2007, 12:03 PM
I think you're all a bunch of wankers.

Oh, and I think all extremists should be shot.

whooa there. dont you think you're being a bit extreme ;)

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 12:04 PM
We're an international community, Dylan, if we play that isolationist bullshit, it's just going to keep the world apart and human rights offenses will occur for decades on decades until rulers get bored of torturing and killing their own people that they decide to invade other countries... And response really only comes if said human rights offending nation attacks a nation of actual economic significance to the US... So with our government (and, by extension, the British and now the French) taking a campy backseat role in terms of when/where to involve our troops, we have to take up the cause in terms of securing basic human rights (self-expression) without totally changing a country's laws and regulations (war).

so what is the role of the U.N?

summerkid
11-30-2007, 12:07 PM
EDIT: Fuck aLL BEARS. Especially Grizzly.

what about gay bears do you fuck them too?

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 12:08 PM
Yes. Hard.

Ill_Eagle
11-30-2007, 12:09 PM
HOT

http://www.insidertricks.com/care-bears/images/bears/Tenderheart_bear_large.gif

PotVsKtl
11-30-2007, 12:13 PM
whooa there. dont you think you're being a bit extreme ;)

http://www.elvex.com/Images/HM-2093-400.jpg

canexplain
11-30-2007, 12:21 PM
sfc,,,,,,The reason I said it was off the hook and out there is because anytime I read a statement that has the N word in it, or any kind of slur or generalization, I just ignore the statement because it is ignorant …. Btw J$$$ just got an email that wu tang clan will be at the fox soon .. they would be fun to see there, but I don’t like to drive to boulder for a show usually … canx**

full on idle
11-30-2007, 12:25 PM
This thread's got too many ignores to read. TMITR.

PassiveTheory
11-30-2007, 12:27 PM
so what is the role of the U.N?

J~$$$, you say this like the UN isn't completely fucking irrelevant...

Alchemy
11-30-2007, 12:33 PM
It could have been worse.

It could have been the gay army bear:

http://www.characterbears.co.uk/productimages/display/SS-image-2006-12-14-458176ec4a6a9.jpg

SFChrissy
11-30-2007, 12:43 PM
sfc,,,,,,The reason I said it was off the hook and out there is because anytime I read a statement that has the N word in it, or any kind of slur or generalization, I just ignore the statement because it is ignorant …. Btw J$$$ just got an email that wu tang clan will be at the fox soon .. they would be fun to see there, but I don’t like to drive to boulder for a show usually … canx**

I feel you canex...I used the term racist to identify the extreme of my thought and sandnbomb to insinuate how rediculous it is for a demographic to want to imprison and lash a woman for educating their children when she tried to cover her ass before the bear was even named...

Yeah demeaning generalizations our ignorant but the extremes of their actions are equally ignorant and unjustifiable...so I'll wear the asshat for today for expressing my self.


The one time I've been to the south I flinched when I heard the dj on the radio using the n bomb and discribing them as porch monkeys swinging from porch to porch...do you mean to tell me that's not an instance of ignorant white trash? Or that the brotha on wellfare slanging crack driving a brand new caddy wouldn't fit the nasty n bomb profile.

I see your point and how I could be construed as the evil burnt out cunt bag but are all the mantalities up in this thread really open enought to see all spectrums of the ugly truth???

This thread killed my day...

marooko
11-30-2007, 12:52 PM
This thread's got too many ignores to read. TMITR.

lalala

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 12:54 PM
Your racism is overwhelming.

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 12:56 PM
What's a mantality?

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 01:02 PM
I have mantality in my pants.

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 01:03 PM
Is it open enought to see all spectrums of the ugly truth???

PotVsKtl
11-30-2007, 01:03 PM
I feel you canex...I used the term racist to identify the extreme of my thought and sandnbomb to insinuate how rediculous it is for a demographic to want to imprison and lash a woman for educating their children when she tried to cover her ass before the bear was even named...

Yeah demeaning generalizations our ignorant but the extremes of their actions are equally ignorant and unjustifiable...so I'll wear the asshat for today for expressing my self.


The one time I've been to the south I flinched when I heard the dj on the radio using the n bomb and discribing them as porch monkeys swinging from porch to porch...do you mean to tell me that's not an instance of ignorant white trash? Or that the brotha on wellfare slanging crack driving a brand new caddy wouldn't fit the nasty n bomb profile.

I see your point and how I could be construed as the evil burnt out cunt bag but are all the mantalities up in this thread really open enought to see all spectrums of the ugly truth???

This thread killed my day...

You are a deeply stupid human being.

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 01:07 PM
Is it open enought to see all spectrums of the ugly truth???

There was a time when it didn't discriminate.

SFChrissy
11-30-2007, 01:12 PM
There was a time when it didn't discriminate.

that must have been before I got here and made the comment right???

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 01:13 PM
no, it was before my girlfriend laid claim to my holy land.

SFChrissy
11-30-2007, 01:15 PM
no, it was before my girlfriend laid claim to my holy land.


Lucky for her she's found the promise land with you being the nicest guy ever!!!

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 01:15 PM
Thanks.