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lvlylrn
11-28-2007, 10:45 PM
Ok, not really, but after attending Lolla this year I learned a lot of valuable lessons:

- 3 day pass wearers were given a WRIST BAND so they could easily go IN AND OUT without tying up the entrance and being forced to spend hours in the painfully hot sun waiting in line for tickets they purchased months before.

- Water was plentiful and inexpensive. And they had SMART water. (Wait, electrolytes in the heat? What a great idea!)

- There were paid volunteers walking around with silly shoulder strappy things collecting beer cups for recycling so there was a lot less waste

- UPS had a booth right near the place where they were selling Lolla concessions. At first we were like, how lame. And then we realized... O-M-G, that's BRILLANT. Buy things (maybe even get them signed) and then... instead of leaving them in the portajohn by accident, you can MAIL THEM HOME. It's a stroke of genius!

- Set times were well staggered, but considering the number of bands at Coachella, I just don't see this as being possible.

Some other ideas (from me, not learned from Lolla):

- How about having a fleet of people with golf carts to bring people in from the outside? I would seriously pay someone to escort me there in a more efficient manner. The way it is done now is horrible.

- Misters. Is it too much to ask to have them in more locations around the venue?

- Give some relief to the poor cellphone-charging bike riders. I felt sad that they weren't in the shade and felt worried that someone was going to collapse from heat exhaustion and then sue the guys at Goldenvoice. That would have been bad.

- Get some more variety back into the lineup. I love it when my friends make me go see some breaking edge Hip Hop or when I can take them to see the best new barely discovered DJ in the dance tent.

- Speaking of tents, do you really need to schedule big bands in the Gobi tent? I mean, it becomes a very very very small place when you are selling 50,000 tickets.

One thing that (unfortunately) Lolla didn't do better... please, NO MORE Perry Farrell. I don't care if he's there as himself, or as DJ Peretz, or as Janes Addiction, or as Satellite Party, I'm just sooooooo tired of him always being around. Just give us 1 year off, that's all I ask.

Ok, I'm done ranting. Can't WAIT for April!

-lvlylrn

summerkid
11-28-2007, 10:50 PM
Ok, not really, but after attending Lolla this year I learned a lot of valuable lessons:


- - UPS had a booth right near the place where they were selling Lolla concessions. At first we were like, how lame. And then we realized... O-M-G, that's BRILLANT. Buy things (maybe even get them signed) and then... instead of leaving them in the portajohn by accident, you can MAIL THEM HOME. It's a stroke of genius!

- Set times were well staggered, but considering the number of bands at Coachella, I just don't see this as being possible.



The UPS thing is actually a damn good idea.

The Set times at Lolla were a fucking joke the only thing that was worse than those set times were ACL's

leo01g
11-28-2007, 11:11 PM
I think the wristband idea was pretty cool

Courtney
11-28-2007, 11:13 PM
paid volunteers

???

Courtney
11-28-2007, 11:15 PM
Also I'm pretty sure the lack of misters has to do with the owners of the venue, and isn't Goldenvoice's choice.

Boourns
11-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Make it more like JUGGALO GATHERING! I want wrestling and seminars about recovering from meth addiction.

orbit
11-28-2007, 11:40 PM
I think Coachella has more variety in its lineup than any other US festival.

Water at Lolla was what.. $2-2.50? It was $2 at Coachella.

The UPS thing sounds good, but I'd rather get a locker like this year to put my stuff. That was a really good idea.

Cpt. Funkaho
11-28-2007, 11:43 PM
Also I'm pretty sure the lack of misters has to do with the owners of the venue, and isn't Goldenvoice's choice.

From what PF has said on the topic before, I think you're right. Also, last year the only misters I experienced were actually more unpleasant than anything else... they didn't really cool me off at all, but they made it super muggy and humid. Plus they turned the ground all slimy and sick underfoot.

To the original poster: How would adding more cutting-edge DJs and hip-hop acts make Coachella more like Lolla? I admit I haven't looked at Lolla's lineup in a while, but I don't recall there being (m)any great underground hip-hop acts on the bill.

orbit
11-28-2007, 11:55 PM
The only hip-hop act Lolla had this year was Lupe Fiasco. Well, also MIA.

RotationSlimWang
11-29-2007, 12:01 AM
The UPS, I guess sure, why not. The wristbands would be cool. And those smart waters could actually be a good idea, we buy them sometimes at Ralph's--you get this huge thing of REALLY good tasting water for like 1 dollar there, they're mad cheap, I'm sure Coach could still turn a nice profit selling them at two when they're getting them in bulk. Or 2.50, whatever--the bottles are like 24 oz I think? It's a cool deal.

Mostly I'd just really like in/out privileges for SOMEBODY. Make it just the campers, whatever--that's the only hinderance at all about Coachella to me. Sometimes I'd just love to be able to go back to my tent for an hour or two and nap, dammit. Or if I was having a bad trip or something, or would be so nice to be able to just go back there, chill out for a couple, and then come back and catch more acts.

Aside from that I think it's run pretty damn well. Oh wait, one more thing--BETTER FUCKING PIZZA. That Spicy Pie shit SUCKS. There was some place claiming authentic NY whatever in 2006--it wasn't authentic NY, but it was better than that crap. But really you should just get D'Amore's to get a booth at Coach--their pizza is the best in LA, I've found now. They might be game for it.

rage patton
11-29-2007, 12:05 AM
Mostly I'd just really like in/out privileges for SOMEBODY. Make it just the campers, whatever--that's the only hinderance at all about Coachella to me.

Thats exactly what I was going to say. In and our privileges for campers would be PERFECT. And more room for camping... but I would rather have in-out privileges first.

paulb
11-29-2007, 12:07 AM
A McDonalds would be nice too....

mvanwinkle
11-29-2007, 12:36 AM
in n out. double double please.

Amneeziac
11-29-2007, 12:41 AM
Please make it rain at Coachella. Sometimes I get a little bit hot. Thank you very much.

scoop49er
11-29-2007, 01:59 AM
i think coachella does fine but the main issues they could improve, is parking and in and outs and i do like the golf cart idea as well or some type of shuttle service if it was possible. shoreline does it in sf and is kickass!

ADrunkPoet
11-29-2007, 03:59 AM
It could just be me, but I found the recycling drive (10 empty for 1 full) negated any complaint I had for water for the weekend. I bought a bottle here and there sure. However, it is as easy as minding what is on the floor on the walk from a stage to the recycling center that made hydrating close to free for me in 2007.

Please continue this next year GV.

Cpt. Funkaho
11-29-2007, 04:05 AM
It could just be me, but I found the recycling drive (10 empty for 1 full) negated any complaint I had for water for the weekend. I bought a bottle here and there sure. However, it is as easy as minding what is on the floor on the walk from a stage to the recycling center that made hydrating close to free for me in 2007.

Please continue this next year GV.

Seconded. My wallet was stolen Sunday morning, and the 10-for-1 recycling plan was all that kept me from dying of dehydration. Saved my ass. By Manu Chao I had so many full bottles I was giving them to the people around me... they also came in handy when the girl next to me collapsed with heat stroke.

Daft Fro
11-29-2007, 04:57 AM
I'd like to strongly concur about giving IN/OUT privileges to campers. They have the separate entrance for campers........say, I bet they could do a 180 conversion and turn those into....exits as well!

Then I'd like to strongly disagree with the title of this thread.

karecares
11-29-2007, 05:34 AM
The UPS, I guess sure, why not. The wristbands would be cool. And those smart waters could actually be a good idea, we buy them sometimes at Ralph's--you get this huge thing of REALLY good tasting water for like 1 dollar there, they're mad cheap, I'm sure Coach could still turn a nice profit selling them at two when they're getting them in bulk. Or 2.50, whatever--the bottles are like 24 oz I think? It's a cool deal.

Mostly I'd just really like in/out privileges for SOMEBODY. Make it just the campers, whatever--that's the only hinderance at all about Coachella to me. Sometimes I'd just love to be able to go back to my tent for an hour or two and nap, dammit. Or if I was having a bad trip or something, or would be so nice to be able to just go back there, chill out for a couple, and then come back and catch more acts.

Aside from that I think it's run pretty damn well. Oh wait, one more thing--BETTER FUCKING PIZZA. That Spicy Pie shit SUCKS. There was some place claiming authentic NY whatever in 2006--it wasn't authentic NY, but it was better than that crap. But really you should just get D'Amore's to get a booth at Coach--their pizza is the best in LA, I've found now. They might be game for it.

Water recycling i think worked out well last year, be great if they do it again

I have found really NO good pizza in the state of Cali- mind you i live right outside NYC so..... i'm a little biased


CAMPERS- going in and out would be wonderful, i would've killed to go back to my tent for a bit on sat. last year.

I like the UPS idea

Memorial_07
11-29-2007, 05:51 AM
I agree with Rotation. That SPICY PIE sucked! And I love pizza, so I was screwed this year.

But the UPS idea is awesome! I have A friend who work for UPS in the Coachella Valley. And would the wristbands have to be worn all three days?

captncrzy
11-29-2007, 06:41 AM
- UPS had a booth right near the place where they were selling Lolla concessions. At first we were like, how lame. And then we realized... O-M-G, that's BRILLANT. Buy things (maybe even get them signed) and then... instead of leaving them in the portajohn by accident, you can MAIL THEM HOME. It's a stroke of genius!

One thing that (unfortunately) Lolla didn't do better... please, NO MORE Perry Farrell. I don't care if he's there as himself, or as DJ Peretz, or as Janes Addiction, or as Satellite Party, I'm just sooooooo tired of him always being around. Just give us 1 year off, that's all I ask.



That UPS thing is a pretty good goddamn idea.

And yes, please no more Perry Farrell.


A McDonalds would be nice too....

Ew. LAME. read Fast Food Nation. You'll never eat at McD again.


in n out. double double please.

That's more like it.

Also, I still say that they need to figure out some sort of park-and-ride thing.

I also still say they should let us in with bottled water, as long as it's unopened. It's the desert for christsakes. Let us have a price break on something we absolutely have to have.

Boourns
11-29-2007, 07:02 AM
1. Spicy Pie was good.
2. I love hamburgers too much to eat one from McDonalds.

invisiblerobots
11-29-2007, 07:12 AM
That Spicy Pie shit SUCKS.
Agreed. I've chewed on better tasting pizza boxes.


A McDonalds would be nice too....
Hell, the fuck, no.

Tylerdurden31
11-29-2007, 07:48 AM
regarding Gobi...the only times I've seen issues with it is when you have a band like Gnarls Barkley or Amy Winehouse who wasn't really big when the lineup was announced and then suddenly become huge within a month of the festival

bmoon99
11-29-2007, 07:51 AM
This is what I'm hearing from the industry:

Supergrass
Tears for Fears
Violent Femmes
Talking Heads
Temple of the Dog
The Verve
Birdy Nam Nam

Also notable:

Stone Roses
Spoon
M.I.A.
Oasis
Louis XIV
Ben Harper
The Bravery
Jamiroquai
White Stripes

Cpt. Funkaho
11-29-2007, 09:37 AM
This is what I'm hearing from the industry:

Supergrass
Tears for Fears
Violent Femmes
Talking Heads
Temple of the Dog
The Verve
Birdy Nam Nam

Also notable:

Stone Roses
Spoon
M.I.A.
Oasis
Louis XIV
Ben Harper
The Bravery
Jamiroquai
White Stripes

Who are you and why have you posted this eight times in eight threads? I smell someone seeding disinformation.

Trick Loves The Kids
11-29-2007, 09:42 AM
In-and-out for the campers would be SO great

Boourns
11-29-2007, 09:49 AM
regarding Gobi...the only times I've seen issues with it is when you have a band like Gnarls Barkley or Amy Winehouse who wasn't really big when the lineup was announced and then suddenly become huge within a month of the festival

Beck Beck Beck Beck. Wow, that was a clusterfuck. But worth it. Once in a lifetime acoustic rarities/cover set.

Courtney
11-29-2007, 09:49 AM
i do like the golf cart idea as well or some type of shuttle service if it was possible. shoreline does it in sf and is kickass!

I'm actually pretty surprised that some enterprising person hasn't done this yet. I mean, especially for the high-end hotels where 90% of their guests are Coachella attendees on Coachella weekend, you could have a shuttle service running back and forth from the hotel to the festival grounds and I'm sure people would pay decent money for it if they knew it was reliable.

It would also improve both traffic and parking issues by getting cars off the road. And it would be better for the environment.

Boourns
11-29-2007, 09:54 AM
A shuttle from the campgrounds to the bus station is essential since cabs don't want to go there Monday morning. Ugh, that was the worst.

Cpt. Funkaho
11-29-2007, 09:56 AM
A shuttle from the campgrounds to the bus station is essential since cabs don't want to go there Monday morning. Ugh, that was the worst.

Yeah, I was actually walking with all my shit (I had a big internal frame pack) to the bus station on Monday, and would have suffered if not for a guy who gave me a lift all the way to the Palm Springs airport. And then he wouldn't let me give him money for it. That guy ruled.

Tylerdurden31
11-29-2007, 09:57 AM
Beck Beck Beck Beck. Wow, that was a clusterfuck. But worth it. Once in a lifetime acoustic rarities/cover set.

I thought Beck was at Mojave?

Courtney
11-29-2007, 09:58 AM
That is a good idea Boourns.

Courtney
11-29-2007, 10:05 AM
Also, for the record, I think the UPS idea is really good too.

I'd say Coachella has the water and recycling issues figured out pretty well already. Water is cheap and readily available. The recycling stations in 2007 were excellent; I hope they return. If you really want electrolytes in your water, you can bring a powder mix to throw into your bottle, but I don't think it's necessary.

tyles
11-29-2007, 11:08 AM
When it comes to food, at this past year's Coachella, I had mostly gyros from the greek place right across from the Mojave tent. Can't really go wrong there.

As far as being like Lollapalooza, I think we can safely say that GV has not stooped to the low of naming a stage after a corporate partner yet, unless Gobi, Movaje, Sahara, Coachella, and Outdoor are codewords for URB, Heinekin, KROQ, and others. Plus, I know Coachella has had one or two odd choices for booking, but didn't Lolla have Blue October this year? Sad.

I vote no on mist tents, but a hell yes on this year's water bottle recycling. Water in your system is better than water outside your system.

Oh, and I vote yes on a shuttle bus system of some sort. Escaping the parking lot often lead to lots of time idling behind the wheel.

invisiblerobots
11-29-2007, 11:13 AM
I thought Beck was at Mojave?

No, it was Gobi. I was waaaaaay in the back and could barely hear. Oh well.

rage patton
11-29-2007, 11:17 AM
Rodrigo y Gabriela were rediculously packed in the Gobi this year. Thank god I god I got there early and was about 10 feet away from the stage.

captncrzy
11-29-2007, 12:23 PM
When it comes to food, at this past year's Coachella, I had mostly gyros from the greek place right across from the Mojave tent. Can't really go wrong there.


I think that's the only place i ate the entire time other than the Churro fiasco.

psychic friend
11-29-2007, 12:44 PM
http://coachella.com/util/gallery_image.php?id=9112

Boourns
11-29-2007, 12:47 PM
I plan on having nothing but barbecue next year.

Senor Cardgage
11-29-2007, 01:38 PM
That bbq is goood but they dont give you much. Fuckers.

The best food value I found in 07 was the meatball sandwiches over in the "International" food area. HUGE and good.

amyzzz
11-29-2007, 02:00 PM
chicken tikki masala naanwich all the way.

shotglass75
11-29-2007, 03:09 PM
Lolla does charge for bottled water but they also have like 10 water fountain stations around the whole park. I bought one water and filled it up with no line at all at the fountains.

I probably had the best Turkey sandwich ever at Lolla. Get some better food choices. Get a sandwich place or something that has non spicy, light, but fills you up, food.

I can't understand how Coachella won't allow in and out privleges for campers. Most ridiculous thing ever.

psychic friend
11-29-2007, 03:14 PM
coughcitydecidescoughdumbcoughagreedcough

rage patton
11-29-2007, 03:17 PM
Really? What the fuck Indio? They are hosting a music festival. Why are they afraid of a couple people leaving to go to their tents?

shotglass75
11-29-2007, 03:19 PM
figured.

menikmati
11-29-2007, 03:33 PM
staggered set times is like the worst idea ever.

Alchemy
11-29-2007, 03:57 PM
staggered set times is like the worst idea ever.

True. Very true. Shit can get fucked up like that.

PotVsKtl
11-29-2007, 04:10 PM
That Spicy Pie shit SUCKS.

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/877/60019042.JPG

summerkid
11-29-2007, 04:24 PM
is that pizza sauce or are you threatening bodily harm?

ShyGuy75
11-29-2007, 04:59 PM
Really? What the fuck Indio? They are hosting a music festival. Why are they afraid of a couple people leaving to go to their tents?

I blame Bush.


As far as the food goes, Lolla will always win because the food in Chicago is 50,324 times better than the food in Cali.

miseducation
11-29-2007, 07:25 PM
chicken tikki masala naanwich all the way.

Agreed to no end. Best thing ever offered at Coach.

Shuttles would be nice, the parking crap is the only reason I always camp and and is therefore responsible for me waking up in a pool of my own miserable sweat every damn day.

shakermaker113
11-29-2007, 08:20 PM
for campers, I guess in-n-out would be nice. for the rest of us, where would you go? seriously. coachella is one place I never feel the need for in-n-out privileges.

RotationSlimWang
11-29-2007, 09:30 PM
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/877/60019042.JPG

Yeah I'm curious as to what you mean by this too. If you're defending Spicy Pie though... well, I pity you. That shit is garbage. Although, everyone in LA should find a D'Amore's and go to it. It is the only actually good pizza in LA County.

brando4n82
11-30-2007, 05:45 AM
In-n-outs would be cool, but if they it, it should only be campers, because where the fuck are other people gonna go, walk 3 miles to sit in their car in the blazing heat? Whenever i need a nap, i march right over to the Sahara tent =)

captncrzy
11-30-2007, 06:20 AM
I nap in the AT&T Blue Room every day.

fatbastard
11-30-2007, 07:06 AM
Yeah I'm curious as to what you mean by this too. If you're defending Spicy Pie though... well, I pity you. That shit is garbage. Although, everyone in LA should find a D'Amore's and go to it. It is the only actually good pizza in LA County.

Alright RSW. We'll see.

brando4n82
11-30-2007, 11:31 AM
But really you should just get D'Amore's to get a booth at Coach--their pizza is the best in LA,

D'amores is Bomb.com, didnt know they had one in LA. They have one right next to me in thousand Oaks. If their nutrition facts are true, especially compared to other pizza chains, it is that much better!

I was gonna post the nurtrition chart but i cant find it online...

Senor Cardgage
11-30-2007, 11:48 AM
D'Amores would be ill, but ....


ROSCOES


would be the jam.

Senor Cardgage
11-30-2007, 11:49 AM
Oh and Spicy Pie can eat a satchel full of salty wallabee chodes

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 11:50 AM
If you're from the west coast you get no vote on pizza. We tried to let you have a say and you gave us fucking Spicy Pie.

Senor Cardgage
11-30-2007, 12:00 PM
I'm from the midwest and did my time in Chicago, whose deep dish destroys the flat NYC stuff (which I also like, but not as much)

RotationSlimWang
11-30-2007, 12:03 PM
No. Deep dish is the opposite of how pizza is supposed to be made.

lvlylrn
12-03-2007, 11:24 PM
I think Coachella has more variety in its lineup than any other US festival.

Not disagreeing. I'm just saying that Coachella USED to have more variety in past years than it has in recent years.

Also, whoever mentioned the point about fixing exits had a good point. I forgot that in my recommendations... how many years in a row will they make us wedge past the portapotties on the way out? how about opening up another exit (like possibly on the other side of the venue) so there isn't a mad stampede like usual?

Lastly, the lockers SUCKED last year. Good idea in principle, but seriously lacking in implementation. Here's an idea... put the lockers somewhere centrally located, train the people setting them up, and put some lights back there so you can actual SEE which locker is yours.

Done with my ranting ... for now.

lvlylrn
12-03-2007, 11:27 PM
Beck Beck Beck Beck. Wow, that was a clusterfuck. But worth it. Once in a lifetime acoustic rarities/cover set.

That was possibly the WORST show I've ever seen at Coachella. Possibly worst show ever.

imrad
12-04-2007, 12:21 AM
lolla has NOTHING on coachella, well maybe except for the wristband idea. the only people who got wristbands at coachella were campers. lolla doesn't even have camping, which is one of the best parts of festivals.

anyway, lolla's lineup has only gotten worse. daft punk was its only redeeming quality this year and the only reason i jumped that fence. and yes, it was cleaner than coachella--but this is the first year lolla has ever been that clean.

also, lolla, by contract, is supposed to end at 10:30 every night. it did not in 2006 and caused a lot of problems between grant park and its nearby residents. lolla is washed over, with a monetarily-driven agenda and a severely lacking lineup.

Somewhat Damaged
12-04-2007, 07:39 AM
I think that's the only place i ate the entire time other than the Churro fiasco.

And what, pray tell, was the Churro fiasco?

hannibul
12-06-2007, 11:07 AM
One thing that (unfortunately) Lolla didn't do better... please, NO MORE Perry Farrell. I don't care if he's there as himself, or as DJ Peretz, or as Janes Addiction, or as Satellite Party, I'm just sooooooo tired of him always being around. Just give us 1 year off, that's all I ask.


Psychic Friend, correct me If I am wrong but, If It wasnt for Perry Farrell, there would be no Coachella. After Coachella 99' was such a lo$$ for Goldenvoice, it looked like the fest would not happen again. When Perry Farrell was asked by goldenvoice to get Janes back together for 2001 and give it one more shot for Coachella, Perry Farrell agreed. Perry asked the rest of the band to get together. Im sure that was not easy for him to do. Mr. Farrell agreed to it because of his admiration for the fest in 99'. The draw from that reunion was what made Coachella able to continue on.

I am not a big fan of Peretz, Janes, or any of the other incarnations Mr. Farrell performs in. But I do have a lot of respect for the man and what he has done for the Coachella Fest. I think in 09', the 10th anniversary of Coachella, Perry Farrell should get an Honorary award of some type from Coachella. Am I really the first one to say this?

No Perry Farrell, No Coachella, No Lollapalooza. Those 2 groundbreaking festivals have been pioneers in the current music festival movement happening right now. Without those 2 festivals, the current live music festival scene would still be a dream. A Dream that even corporate sponsors would not want to touch, for many, many obvious reasons.

Thank you Perry Farrell.

captncrzy
12-06-2007, 11:43 AM
And what, pray tell, was the Churro fiasco?

The churros were gross this year.

Somewhat Damaged
12-06-2007, 11:51 AM
The churros were gross this year.

Oh. I thought it was something more disgusting. The night before posting my query, I'd had a conversation with this guy who said that he used the phrase, "Passing a churro," as a euphemism for taking a shit. I don't know if he was stoned, just taking the piss, or sincere, but he was insistent that churros resemble turds. In light of that conversation, I thought that perhaps the Churro Fiasco of Coachella 2007 had resulted in diarrhea and/or vomiting, most likely at an inopportune time (i.e., causing you to miss a performance you had anxiously been looking forward to).

walkunafraid
12-06-2007, 09:05 PM
There's only one thing Coachella needs to steal from Lollapalooza:

Pearl Jam.


I saw/heard more people whose preconceived notions of them were totally toppled after seeing their performance than I ever have for any band at any festival.

Of course, that has partly to do with the fact that a lot of people have preconceived notions of them (a grunge thing, I'm sure)...but still, it was pretty cool to see.

RedThom
12-10-2007, 08:25 AM
I love everything about coachella
except the beer prices, but hey i'd rather the beer high than more than 2 bucks for water.

maybe a full bar option?