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nothingman00
08-13-2007, 03:10 PM
Day 2 out of 6 (and if I feel good enough, I may make it longer, though I have plans next Saturday so it ends there, without a doubt)
Went for a 3 mile run walk in 100 degree heat today. My sweat smelled like a mix of Nickeback and urine (basically the sweat smell equivalent of Garth Algar's "Pralines and Dick" ice cream flavor). I've been downing water and green tea like it's going out of style and I think that the increased hydration has had a very weird effect on me. I would search for the TMI thread but what the fuck, why not say it here? Because I'm so adequately hydrated, I've basically been at full-mast all day. Yes, detoxing apparently has the same effect as Viagra. I'm not exactly sure what to make of all this, but I can say that so far, sobriety has mixed results. I do really like sober sex and sober masturbation, though I miss being entertained by TV. I hadn't really thought about either in years (with few exceptions). However, I get agitated more easily and I can;t stop sweating. OK for now... I think my liver or pancreas was swollen a little. Either that or i magically lost 4 pounds in the last day and a half (and weight loss wasn't even a goal-though 10 pounds would be nice). I'm no fun when I'm sober.

marooko
08-13-2007, 03:13 PM
have a drink to celebrate.

nothingman00
08-13-2007, 03:14 PM
A drink of Green Tea! That shiz is good!!!

disgustipated
08-13-2007, 03:17 PM
http://www.bevnet.com/images/reviews/sweetleaf/sweetleaf-greentea.jpg


Best bottled tea...by far!

marooko
08-13-2007, 03:24 PM
you must not have had turkeyhill, freemans or any other tea from PA.

crazzz2007
08-13-2007, 03:24 PM
http://www.bevnet.com/images/reviews/sweetleaf/sweetleaf-greentea.jpg


Best bottled tea...by far!

have you had every brand of bottled tea on the market? no.

the most you can say is "best bottled tea i've ever tasted....by far."

disgustipated
08-13-2007, 03:35 PM
have you had every brand of bottled tea on the market? no.

How the fuck would you know what I have and have not tasted?

For all you know I could be a connoisseur of fine bottled teas, spending my entire life savings on all things tea. I just may have travelled the world searching for the finest tea leaves, spending hot days in the jungles of Peru with the villagers reaping the benifits of their crops...

crazzz2007
08-13-2007, 03:37 PM
How the fuck would you know what I have and have not tasted?

For all you know I could be a connoisseur of fine bottled teas, spending my entire life savings on all things tea. I just may have travelled the world searching for the finest tea leaves, spending hot days in the jungles of Peru with the villagers reaping the benifits of their crops...

i know these things. no need to get all pissy just cause i know.

TomAz
08-13-2007, 04:08 PM
it's not rocket science.

TomAz
08-13-2007, 04:09 PM
hey nothingman we need to have a drink together at ACL. what say you.

mountmccabe
08-13-2007, 04:13 PM
Classy, Tom, very classy.

TomAz
08-13-2007, 04:16 PM
now now now, he was quite explicit that he's just on a 6 day sobriety binge before returning to normalcy.

nothingman00
08-13-2007, 04:29 PM
hey nothingman we need to have a drink together at ACL. what say you.


You're on, tom. We can discuss the Hold Steady and try to figure out how someone without superpowers can overcome the Arcade Fire/White Stripes conflict. If one of them is being streamed on blueroom, maybe there's a chance a person could catch both at the same time (if that person had a phone with very loud speakers).

P.S. All this Green Tea talk is good... I started with that Sobe Green Tea stuff. Then I looked at the Sugar content and realized why it tasted so good. So, I switched to the vitamin water (Glaceau) one because it was slightly lower on sugars. Right now, I'm drinking tea called Stash (teabags out of a box--pretty sure there's caffeine which I'm not a fan of), but you have to do the whole tea prep thing... What IS the best, non-caffeinated bottled green tea (in your opinion)? This is important to me. And please suggest something that I can get at Whole Foods or some other nice place in Austin.

amyzzz
08-13-2007, 04:29 PM
Why the 6 days? Was that addressed in another thread?

nothingman00
08-13-2007, 04:31 PM
now now now, he was quite explicit that he's just on a 6 day sobriety binge before returning to normalcy.

This is true, though I could extend it to next Saturday (which would make it a full 14 days) if I feel good enough. Also, has anyone else experienced intense detox regimens that involve those crazy smelling sweats? I'm curious as to what it is...

disgustipated
08-13-2007, 04:34 PM
Sweet Leaf is made in Austin. You can get it just about anywhere, they have it in gallon jugs at Whole Foods.

nothingman00
08-13-2007, 04:44 PM
Why the 6 days? Was that addressed in another thread?

Completely arbitrary, but I have a meeting about starting up a business in 6 days. So I wanted to be focused for that (even though we'll probably meet for drinks to discuss the business model).


Sweet Leaf is made in Austin. You can get it just about anywhere, they have it in gallon jugs at Whole Foods.

Is it sugar-laden? Does it taste decent? Caffeine?

disgustipated
08-13-2007, 04:54 PM
The mint green tea is sweetened with honey.

It tastes like the best bottled tea ever...

Caffeine- free w/ 100% vitamin c

xbnmx
08-13-2007, 05:14 PM
http://www.bevnet.com/images/reviews/sweetleaf/sweetleaf-greentea.jpg


Best bottled tea...by far!

Honest T is better.

disgustipated
08-13-2007, 05:21 PM
Honest T is good,

better??? meh

disgustipated
08-13-2007, 05:25 PM
I really don't know why I am defending my taste in tea...

nothingman..congrats on your first day of sobriety. May the rest of your week be just as sweaty and detoxifying.

ewiggy
08-13-2007, 07:55 PM
sweetened tea is the death of me.

comiddle
08-13-2007, 08:14 PM
Personally, I enjoy Lung Ching when it comes to green teas. If you want something really nice, pick up some Pai Mu Tan. It's a white tea, but rather delightful.

But y'know, I also like my tea hot and from a mug (tea cups are for sissies).

RotationSlimWang
08-13-2007, 08:44 PM
This is true, though I could extend it to next Saturday (which would make it a full 14 days) if I feel good enough. Also, has anyone else experienced intense detox regimens that involve those crazy smelling sweats? I'm curious as to what it is...

Come now, sir. You as well as anyone ought to know that that odor is your body via the liver evacuating innumerable poisons from your system. But congrats on the effort--I myself am trying to get back into opiates in as big a way as possible, with a shitload of xanax thrown in for good measure.

Hannahrain
08-13-2007, 08:45 PM
Well, at least you've got goals.

nothingman00
08-13-2007, 09:12 PM
Come now, sir. You as well as anyone ought to know that that odor is your body via the liver evacuating innumerable poisons from your system. But congrats on the effort--I myself am trying to get back into opiates in as big a way as possible, with a shitload of xanax thrown in for good measure.

I've never truly detoxed. At least not for 10-12 years. I mean, I've gone without drinking for stretches, but I'm not exercising, eating healthy, drinking water, green tea, etx. when I do it usually. In the past, I'd go cold-turkey on drinking then gang up on all of the pills (like you're doing with Xanax) so that I could minimize anxiety. My goal is to completely detox myself (though I smoked a small joint by myself on my porch a few hours ago). And, well, my liver stinks. I mean, my sweat smelled horrendous today. My pillows from last night are remarkably nasty... Washing them right now, actually. I understand where the sweat is coming from, but I've never had sweat smell like this... It's actually much better tonight. I worked out again today right before smoking my joint and my sweat wasn't nearly as odorous. Perhaps due to all the water I've been drinking?

ewiggy
08-13-2007, 09:32 PM
i'm not sure a complete detox could be accomplished in 6 days.

but i know nothing about that, really. just seems like it'd take longer. maybe nando knows.

full on idle
08-13-2007, 09:38 PM
You can detox in 72 hours.

Stop drinking sugar. Go to a chinese tea store, buy some antixodant rich oolong milk thistle (loose - not in a bag) and a brew pot. It's got a tiny bit of caffeine but it's not as bitter as the straight green.

atom heart
08-13-2007, 09:39 PM
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RotationSlimWang
08-13-2007, 09:44 PM
I've never truly detoxed. At least not for 10-12 years. I mean, I've gone without drinking for stretches, but I'm not exercising, eating healthy, drinking water, green tea, etx. when I do it usually. In the past, I'd go cold-turkey on drinking then gang up on all of the pills (like you're doing with Xanax) so that I could minimize anxiety. My goal is to completely detox myself (though I smoked a small joint by myself on my porch a few hours ago). And, well, my liver stinks. I mean, my sweat smelled horrendous today. My pillows from last night are remarkably nasty... Washing them right now, actually. I understand where the sweat is coming from, but I've never had sweat smell like this... It's actually much better tonight. I worked out again today right before smoking my joint and my sweat wasn't nearly as odorous. Perhaps due to all the water I've been drinking?

In my experience you stop noticing all the toxins by the second, third day at the most. Just not being high makes you notice all kinds of funky shit about your life--it's a real downer, I try to avoid it. =)

summerkid
08-13-2007, 10:09 PM
I'm not drinking again for at least 2 or 3 months.

orbit
08-13-2007, 10:26 PM
I can't drink again for at least 2 or 3 months.

matildawong
08-13-2007, 10:28 PM
you guys are lucky

Wheres the beef?
08-13-2007, 10:30 PM
I would search for the TMI thread but what the fuck, why not say it here? Because I'm so adequately hydrated, I've basically been at full-mast all day. Yes, detoxing apparently has the same effect as Viagra. I'm not exactly sure what to make of all this, but I can say that so far, sobriety has mixed results.

Its because you had developed what doctors call Permitus Whiskey Dickus.

lovelymeg
08-13-2007, 10:39 PM
Day 2 out of 6 (and if I feel good enough, I may make it longer, though I have plans next Saturday so it ends there, without a doubt)
Went for a 3 mile run walk in 100 degree heat today. My sweat smelled like a mix of Nickeback and urine (basically the sweat smell equivalent of Garth Algar's "Pralines and Dick" ice cream flavor). I've been downing water and green tea like it's going out of style and I think that the increased hydration has had a very weird effect on me. I would search for the TMI thread but what the fuck, why not say it here? Because I'm so adequately hydrated, I've basically been at full-mast all day. Yes, detoxing apparently has the same effect as Viagra. I'm not exactly sure what to make of all this, but I can say that so far, sobriety has mixed results. I do really like sober sex and sober masturbation, though I miss being entertained by TV. I hadn't really thought about either in years (with few exceptions). However, I get agitated more easily and I can;t stop sweating. OK for now... I think my liver or pancreas was swollen a little. Either that or i magically lost 4 pounds in the last day and a half (and weight loss wasn't even a goal-though 10 pounds would be nice). I'm no fun when I'm sober.


you owe it to youself to go longer than six days and decide then.
and the 'I'm no fun when I'm sober" thing generally tends to be BS. :D

lovelymeg
08-13-2007, 10:41 PM
also, since you don't know me, I'm really not trying to tell you what to do.
But, to give it a fair chance, you gotta go longer than six days.

nothingman00
08-13-2007, 11:02 PM
Its because you had developed what doctors call Permitus Whiskey Dickus.

No, I was able to perform fine (as evidenced by the daughter I conceived while not at all sober). Actually, I didn't perform better or worse (or shorter or longer) when I wasn't sober (except for some of those really fueled nights where the harder stuff was flowing in extreme amounts, in addition to the alcohol. I just got, uh, ready, when I should have and wasn't a walking hard-on for 24 hours. Whatever, it's probably just the amount of water I've been drinking and the green tea. Also in the TMI realm, I've been visiting the restroom enough that I've pretty much torn through the new issue of Paste magazine that arrived in the mail TODAY. Again, this is new to me, and although it probably seemed like some sort of facade to some of you, it's the honest to God truth. I've quit drinking before, sworn off the harder stuff (anything that could kill me with one dose) since we had our daughter, but never tried to detox and allow my liver to heal for a few days without popping handfuls of Valium, Xanax, Nitrazepam, Klonopin, Lorazepam any other benzo-drug I had lying around (and I do mean handfuls---I'd get a bottle of 120 4-bars and just pop open the bottle and open my mouth)... If I was lucky I had painkillers to get me by....6-days is the target (who knows what happens on Friday?), but if i can make it past friday, then I'm good to go until the following Saturday. I'm just trying to gauge the benefits at this point, and I'm feeling guilty for smoking the good herb during my detox (as it tends to make it less of an accomplishment), but it takes the edge off. I'm about to go smoke another joint, in fact, then watch "This is Spinal Tap" or simpsons season 10, whichever sounds better at the time...

More green tea suggestions are welcome and FOI, please elaborate on that method. Is sugar considered a bad toxin? I've been drinking that XXX Glaceau (sp?) Vitamin Water flavor but noticed it has a ton of sugar. I also had a pack of Spree earlier... Anyway, do you have a link to that method. Also, anyone know liver supplements that help the liver cleanse WITHOUT any side effects?

mountmccabe
08-13-2007, 11:30 PM
Stop drinking sugar. Go to a chinese tea store, buy some antixodant rich oolong milk thistle (loose - not in a bag) and a brew pot. It's got a tiny bit of caffeine but it's not as bitter as the straight green.

I'd vote for these things.

Another option for getting such teas is ordering them online from somewhere like SpecialTeas (http://specialteas.com/). That's where we get my mother her green teas and a wide variety of others. I think last order I participated in we ended up getting a sample of a stick tea and another one that was monkey-picked.

Wheres the beef?
08-13-2007, 11:35 PM
No, I was able to perform fine (as evidenced by the daughter I conceived while not at all sober). Actually, I didn't perform better or worse (or shorter or longer) when I wasn't sober (except for some of those really fueled nights where the harder stuff was flowing in extreme amounts, in addition to the alcohol. I just got, uh, ready, when I should have and wasn't a walking hard-on for 24 hours. Whatever, it's probably just the amount of water I've been drinking and the green tea. Also in the TMI realm, I've been visiting the restroom enough that I've pretty much torn through the new issue of Paste magazine that arrived in the mail TODAY. Again, this is new to me, and although it probably seemed like some sort of facade to some of you, it's the honest to God truth. I've quit drinking before, sworn off the harder stuff (anything that could kill me with one dose) since we had our daughter, but never tried to detox and allow my liver to heal for a few days without popping handfuls of Valium, Xanax, Nitrazepam, Klonopin, Lorazepam any other benzo-drug I had lying around (and I do mean handfuls---I'd get a bottle of 120 4-bars and just pop open the bottle and open my mouth)... If I was lucky I had painkillers to get me by....6-days is the target (who knows what happens on Friday?), but if i can make it past friday, then I'm good to go until the following Saturday. I'm just trying to gauge the benefits at this point, and I'm feeling guilty for smoking the good herb during my detox (as it tends to make it less of an accomplishment), but it takes the edge off. I'm about to go smoke another joint, in fact, then watch "This is Spinal Tap" or simpsons season 10, whichever sounds better at the time...

More green tea suggestions are welcome and FOI, please elaborate on that method. Is sugar considered a bad toxin? I've been drinking that XXX Glaceau (sp?) Vitamin Water flavor but noticed it has a ton of sugar. I also had a pack of Spree earlier... Anyway, do you have a link to that method. Also, anyone know liver supplements that help the liver cleanse WITHOUT any side effects?

Jeez. What kind of job do you have where you are afforded the luxury of doing all the drugs to your hearts content? I cant even toke if I wanted.

disgustipated
08-13-2007, 11:36 PM
If I remember correctly there is a specialty tea shop in Austin called The Tea Embassy or somethin' like that, it's near downtown off Lamar. You can buy loose leaf teas in bulk, as much or as little as you want.



EDIT: link

http://www.teaembassy.com/

Wheres the beef?
08-13-2007, 11:48 PM
If I remember correct there is a specialty tea shop in Austin called The Tea Embassy or somethin' like that, it's near downtown off Lamar. You can buy loose leaf teas in bulk, as much or as little as you want.



EDIT: link

http://www.teaembassy.com/

Bookmarked!

RotationSlimWang
08-14-2007, 12:25 AM
You faggots realize you're discussing tea shops, right?

Just wanted to make sure we're all intimately aware of this.

fatbastard
08-14-2007, 06:10 AM
Celebrate with a burger.
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nothingman00
08-14-2007, 11:45 AM
Jeez. What kind of job do you have where you are afforded the luxury of doing all the drugs to your hearts content? I cant even toke if I wanted.

Sorry to hear that about your job.
I think I've mentioned what I do for a living (on the old board) but I'm not going to divulge here. My employer would probably be cool with smoking bud, and I have general anxiety disorder which explains the benzos. And opiates leave your blood stream quickly (as does blow) that one could still do both (if wanted) and, as long as they have a general idea when they're going to be piss-tested, they could hold a job fine.

nothingman00
08-14-2007, 11:53 AM
OK, a new day and the score is nothingman 2- slovenly drunkenness 0...

Problem, my wife's best friend is coming in town and wants to have drinks with us... We're going to go shopping at the record store (Waterloo) together on our once a month "rape the vinyl section" and hope we get lucky---like finding an original "Propeller" that somehow made it onto the rack---then dinner and drinks. It looks like the final score will be Nothingman 2.5 days- Slovenly drunkenness 0 with a .5 day score going to violated alcohol-free policy but didn;t get drunk and pop a bunch of pills...

Either that or I order water when everyone else is having drinks. Probably not bloody likely.

TomAz
08-14-2007, 01:09 PM
also, since you don't know me, I'm really not trying to tell you what to do.
But, to give it a fair chance, you gotta go longer than six days.

In other words, if you did know her, she would try to tell you what to do.

bug on your lip
08-14-2007, 01:19 PM
you probably still taste the rum everytime you have a coke

so drink coke tonight

Wheres the beef?
08-15-2007, 07:02 PM
Sorry to hear that about your job.
I think I've mentioned what I do for a living (on the old board) but I'm not going to divulge here. My employer would probably be cool with smoking bud, and I have general anxiety disorder which explains the benzos. And opiates leave your blood stream quickly (as does blow) that one could still do both (if wanted) and, as long as they have a general idea when they're going to be piss-tested, they could hold a job fine.

If you are on prescribed benzos.....sorry chap. Rough life.

RotationSlimWang
08-15-2007, 07:06 PM
Ahh, the wonders of benzo withdrawl. Who would've ever thought there could be something worse than kicking heroin?

Nothingman, babes, if you're going to do it don't be a big *** about it. Drink club soda or some other shit and stick to the regimen. Smoke weed if you need to, I suppose, but pills and booze are your primary targets. Booze possibly more so than pills it will do your body good to get away from for a week.

nothingman00
08-16-2007, 09:19 PM
If you are on prescribed benzos.....sorry chap. Rough life.

They aren't all prescribed. You can get far better, way more potent benzo's from Eastern Bloc countries and a few places in South America. Trust me on this. All you have to do is have the contact info and a little bit of trust. Cheap, non-prescribed, more potent Benzo's. It's a treat.


Ahh, the wonders of benzo withdrawl. Who would've ever thought there could be something worse than kicking heroin?

Nothingman, babes, if you're going to do it don't be a big *** about it. Drink club soda or some other shit and stick to the regimen. Smoke weed if you need to, I suppose, but pills and booze are your primary targets. Booze possibly more so than pills it will do your body good to get away from for a week.

Randy, you slimy little fucker you... I've been taking Addies, a few nitrazepam to fall asleep. And beaytch, your shipment that you are so eagerly awaiting could be found (except for the G) in my medicine cabinet... Been smokin' the fine herb (strangely enough, I hate tobacco) and have been doing well with the tea and water shit. Also had steaks every night for the past 3 and 4 of the past 5. No breakfast, no sugar except for the sugar in gum, which I've been rockin a lot recently...

P.S. I'll mail you next-day at a slight markup (500%) of what your old dude was charging. Let me know if that sounds like something you might be interested in. Love ya' bro. Hate to rub it in.

As we end the day of August 16th, 2007, I officially haven't had a drink in 5 days. Nothingman 5- Slovenly Drunkenness 0. Completely dominating it. Now, one of my friends got busted by his wife for sending sexually explicit emails to coworkers that he may or may not have ever hooked up with, so she left him (and left her ring on the table). They have a 3 year old daughter, so I imagine that I will help him out by taking him out tomorrow. I seriously doubt that the bar we go to will serve Green Tea, so let's consider it Nothingman 5.5- Slovenly drunkenness 0 as a probable final score. Then I'll go back to my usual ways... My liver thanks me for the break. My sweat doesn;t stink anymore. Life is swell. So why would I get back on the intoxicant train, you ask? Because I like altering reality a little bit, every so often. Simply put, I like being fucked up occasionally.

RotationSlimWang
08-17-2007, 04:46 AM
No, the G I can get ahold of without problem pretty regularly. You have overseas pharmacies, I have Hollywood Faggots. Good people and everything, service is generally reliable and prompt since they never leave the one bedroom where all the tweak gets smoked, and you're guaranteed a slightly creepy compliment with every visit.

500%, eh? I've seen what some of those pharmacies charge--500 percent might be fine by me. PM with something convincing. Or in the long run you could be friendly by just hooking me up with your connect, but the words "overnight" and "more potent" have a special place in my heart at the moment. More potent, for realsies? Oh, were these the 4 mg bars you were referring to? I'd heard people mention them in the past and always just said, "Um, you got beat, kid--they don't make them stronger than two milligrams." Could it be true? A four milligram Alprazolam bar? ... The drug fiend's mind reels with implications.

I'm pretty well-stocked on Adderall for another month or so I think. I'm glad that we're in agreement that dextro-amphetamine salts during the day and benzos at night is the way to go--such an easier way to live just telling when your body to be alert and productive and when it's time to chill the fuck out and stop vibrating. In my case (can't speak for you) the vibrating isn't even from the amphetamine, it's just from night time. Strange too, 'cause I fucking hate the day--there's asshole daytime people everywhere with their asshole daytime faces and concerns and questions, and not nearly enough people are as fucked up as I am in the morning.

P.S. Tell me that you have an overseas pharmacy for opiates and I'll blow you front and back at Coachella, in the Sahara if necessary. I doubt it'll be the first dude sucking some other dude off for drugs in that tent, heh. I wasn't kidding about paying the markup--you wanna pay for your next shipment with one little trip to UPS for me, I'm game.

P.P.S. And I'm genuinely glad to hear that you took a little break from the drinking. Strangely I still put alcohol on the second rung of dangerous habits, although we're both professionals at this of course. But since alcohol is primarily what you were getting a break from (granted you slowed down on some other things, but that was the primary goal and the only one you truly abstained from completely, right) and your diet sounds somewhat similar to mine... how much do you really feel the alcohol is eating you up? I wonder, in the long run, if the litre of rum or twelve pack a night is fucking me up just as badly as all the drugs put together. Or at least if I stopped drinking while doing all the drugs I might buy myself ten years in the process.

I have the genetics of one of the world's best alcoholics and it looked unpleasant towards the end for him. Of course I'll still be surprised if I haven't died in a car crash or drowned on my own vomit--if not some other liquid--in ten years' time, but still. The man was strong, he had a presence larger than himself kinda like the Indian describes McMurphy in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. But at the end... he was like R. P. McMurphy, at the end. And he didn't do anything particularly bad for him but drink. Lord knows the pain our livers must suffer. Take that, livers! Man up, you swollen fuckers, and harch, doubletime!

In closing, congratulations for only doing three drugs for 5.5 days. =)