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anti-square
09-16-2007, 11:43 AM
I meant relative to Tatu. I realize some of us that are older than thirty may get offended when referring to the 90's as ancient times.

canexplain
09-16-2007, 11:43 AM
"Further back in time?"

I just saw L7, like, well I guess it was 10 years ago. But it's not like he's talking about frickin Woodstock.

Saw them a few times in the 90's, they were always fun. This one was my fave...
http://www.subpop.com/assets/images/2115.jpg

"Got so much clit, she don't need no balls"

ya thats them, i think they were on one of the lolla tours maybe ..cr****

shakermaker113
09-16-2007, 11:51 AM
when you go to a great restaurant, do you worry there'll be too much good food on the menu?

poor analogy! in a restaurant, I'm only ordering one meal so one good item is all I need. a better analogy would be a buffet. if I paid for a buffet and found that there was only one or two good items, I'd be disappointed. the best buffets are the types that have more good food than I can eat.

BROKENDOLL
09-16-2007, 12:02 PM
I meant relative to Tatu. I realize some of us that are older than thirty may get offended when referring to the 90's as ancient times. Hmmm, considering my 90's taste in music VS the music I'm into now, it may seem ancient, but I remain ageless...

canexplain
09-16-2007, 12:05 PM
cr**** < l 7< ageless < mastedons :) cr****

Vance_Vegoose
09-16-2007, 12:12 PM
the best buffets are the types that have more good food than I can eat.

hence my analogy.

there will be more good music than you can hear. (huh?) you know what i mean.

BROKENDOLL
09-16-2007, 12:13 PM
cr**** < l 7< ageless < mastedons :) cr**** :thu

bmack86
09-16-2007, 01:07 PM
Pitchfork had the same thing with stages rotating. I was further back for most shows, but i missed Iron and Wine and Of Montreal up close so I could get a good spot for Mastodon and Malkmus. TOtally worth it.

M Sparks
09-16-2007, 04:53 PM
ya thats them, i think they were on one of the lolla tours maybe ..cr****

'94...After Green Day, before Nick Cave. That was a nutty lineup. I saw them in a club in '97 too with Clawhammer.

They're on one of those stupid VH1 "100 most shocking/wildest/whatever moments in something-or-other" countdowns...pretty near the top...for the time the singer reached down her shorts, pulled out her tampon, and tossed it into the crowd.

Abe Lincoln
09-16-2007, 05:01 PM
for the time the singer reached down her shorts, pulled out her tampon, and tossed it into the crowd.
Which she must have seen Lydia Lunch do,because she used to do that also.
I saw L7 at Lolla that year.I felt bad for Nick Cave having to follow them,in the daytime,which wasn't the best way to see Nick Cave.

menikmati
09-16-2007, 05:03 PM
the tampon thing was at Reading 92, I got the bootleg of it.

scoop49er
09-16-2007, 06:42 PM
L7 had one kick ass song:

it went like this:

when i get mad and i get pissed
i grab a pen and i write out a lsit
of the assholes who wont be missed
YOU'VE MADE MY SHITLIST!!

shitlist is such a straight up fuck you song. love it! other than that most of their stuff was ok but that song i dug from day one and still do.

scoop49er
09-16-2007, 06:45 PM
Thats exactly what I dont like about that kind of planning.

What I am worried abiut at Vegoose is not only acts conflicting with other acts.... but acts conflicting with me wanting to get a good spot for another act.

yeah i always tend to figure out what im going to do but once the festival hits, i go with how im feeling... like i wasnt planning on seeing willie nelson, but decided to and really enjoyed it. same with watching faithless. totally got drunk and really danced my ass off enjoying the moment! :)

with vegoose im just gonna go with the flow. ive had the great fortune of going to now over 300 concerts and festivals so ive seen many of these bands different times so i have the luxury and experience to really enjoy it and take it all in! :)

rage patton
09-16-2007, 09:21 PM
There has been a lot of talk about Muse in other threads... but not in this one. So I am gonna bring Muse up!

Does anyone think it is a possibility that Superfly will give Muse a 2 hour set? From what it sounds like, all their recent tour and festival sets have been around an hour and half... but wouldnt a 2 hour set be amazing? It would give them a chance to play more from Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry.
As it is, Sunday is lackin in acts, so longer set times is the only way they will fill out the day. But would Muse want to do a longer set?

Somewhat Damaged
09-16-2007, 11:43 PM
I get to see Muse this Thursday and I'm really excited about it. I don't know if there are any opening bands or if they've got the venue all to themselves -- I'm almost hoping it's just them 'cause then they could play for at least a couple of hours. I've got some CDs I'm thinking of trading in at Zia to get some new stuff and was thinking of loading up on new (to me) Muse -- so Origin of Symmetry is essential listening? (I've got Black Holes and Revelations and Absolution, just for the record.) Anything else I should absolutely get before the end of the week? What order of urgency should the albums be purchased in? After being at the little dinky festival in Tucson today, I'm salivating for Vegoose -- having acts to actually look forward to outside of the headliner, desiring to be introduced to new bands and knowing that they're not likely to suck, or if they do, it's not so big a deal since there's more than one stage and I'm not subjected to the one band scheduled at that time. The end of October can't come quickly enough.

breakjaw
09-17-2007, 12:21 AM
I don't mean to self-promote,but i made a Muse mix that you can get here:
http://imageigloo.com/images/6777Muse_1.jpg (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=293855&postcount=748)
I made it pretty close to the setlists that they have been playing on this tour,for myself to listen to if I do end up going to Vegoose.You can listen to it too though since you are also in AZ.And on this board.And cool.

And Origin Of Symmetry is essential.Get it.

M Sparks
09-17-2007, 06:44 AM
Which she must have seen Lydia Lunch do,because she used to do that also.

"MISS LYDIA LUNCH!" Ever see that tape of video pranks Penn & Teller did in the 80's? Lydia helps demonstrate one of the pranks and does some really poor acting, but she's adorable in a little flower print church dress.

L7 gets the credit, because they did it in front of 40,000 people instead of 40. :)

rage patton
09-17-2007, 06:45 AM
And Origin Of Symmetry is essential.Get it.

Agreed. No question there.

M Sparks
09-17-2007, 07:19 AM
Somewhat Damaged, I sent you a PM, let me know if you didn't get it. I only mention it because I told you you the opening acts were in it.

Immigrant and Juliette Lewis's band are opening up (?!WTF!?). Show starts at 6:30 and has to be over by 10 due to Mesa noise curfew. Should still be time for a longish set as long as the roadies are efficient. Actually, I've been there before, and sometimes when the openers haven't been that well publicized, they will go on even earlier than the posted show time. I think sometimes the acts get there and realize that they HAVE to be done by 10, thinking it was just a guideline.

My bet is that Muse goes on at 8pm just in case, but will probably end by 9:45.

brando4n82
09-17-2007, 10:56 AM
I dont really even care if Mastadon are there. I think they only way I will watch them is if they are playing on a stage before another band I want to see.

And Supre...

oh mann, whats the deal? I'm guessing you havent heard too much of their material? If not well then fuck. well hopefully you catch their live set because they put on an amazing performance. If you havent heard much of their material, I highly suggest listening to Blood Mountain. Great album that gets better and better each track. the last Track is incredible but they wont play it live =(

ficklecycle
09-17-2007, 10:56 AM
So uh, any adds?

brando4n82
09-17-2007, 11:02 AM
So uh, any adds?

never

Mr. Dylanja
09-17-2007, 11:02 AM
No adds that I know of yet.

However, Daft Punks myspace page says they're doing an exclusive one time only night show! They will be upgrading their entire stage setup and lighting including the pyramid!

The new upgraded pyramid is called THE LUXOR! They will be spinning right under the big bright light! I cant wait!

anti-square
09-17-2007, 11:05 AM
what wha what?1!

M Sparks
09-17-2007, 11:32 AM
The new upgraded pyramid is called THE LUXOR! They will be spinning right under the big bright light!

So, they'll be in a utility closet or something?

Vance_Vegoose
09-17-2007, 02:31 PM
Daft Punks myspace page says they're doing an exclusive one time only night show! They will be upgrading their entire stage setup and lighting including the pyramid!

The new upgraded pyramid is called THE LUXOR! They will be spinning right under the big bright light! I cant wait!

wait, what?

KenMixtape
09-17-2007, 02:48 PM
http://blogoehlert.typepad.com/eclippings/images/gullible.gif

Sushov23
09-17-2007, 02:48 PM
Every single person that likes MUSE needs to own Origin of Symmetry. Don't fucking argue with me either BITCHES

rage patton
09-17-2007, 02:50 PM
http://blogoehlert.typepad.com/eclippings/images/gullible.gif

No shit eh? Were you guys being serious?

brando4n82
09-17-2007, 02:51 PM
http://blogoehlert.typepad.com/eclippings/images/gullible.gif

serious! anyone questioning such a post has obviously never been to Las Vegas. Nice one though, Mr. Dylanja

M Sparks
09-17-2007, 02:57 PM
No shit eh? Were you guys being serious?

Ummm...I wasn't. I thought that was obvious.

Unlike Daft's pyramid, the top of the Luxor doesn't hover in the air.

canexplain
09-17-2007, 03:01 PM
even a cooler pyramid cr****

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/canexplain/daftbig.jpg

KenMixtape
09-17-2007, 03:06 PM
I would hide from society for a year if I thought that was real.
Where would they be, in a basement?
Even if logic failed you that far, did you not think of checking daft punk's myspace?

What's worst about this is there are probably people who still think it *might* be real.

M Sparks
09-17-2007, 03:27 PM
even a cooler pyramid cr****

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/canexplain/daftbig.jpg

Hmm...
ENHANCE...
ENHANCE...
ENHANCE...
ENHANCE...

Well, I'll be damned

http://a595.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/95/l_5674be89c60a2fe4136c51294891a88a.jpg

rage patton
09-17-2007, 03:29 PM
That is cool pymaid Ron... where is that?

However, +10 to you M Sparks!!! That gave me a good laugh.

canexplain
09-17-2007, 04:39 PM
That is cool pymaid Ron... where is that?

However, +10 to you M Sparks!!! That gave me a good laugh.

i agree i really lol with that one ... +10 to sparks .. that is in memphis .. we were on our way from wakarusa to bonnaroo and went thru there ... we just had to take the pic with the dp history :) cr****

bballarl
09-17-2007, 04:57 PM
The man machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machiiiiiiiiine. Maaaaaaachiiiiiiiiiiiine.

suprefan
09-17-2007, 04:59 PM
Really now, that does sound familiar.................

Ardentbiscuit
09-17-2007, 05:26 PM
Oh they're updated the activites, sadly it's just last year's activities with the words 2007.

The only new thing is the Zia Record store signing, everything else is the same from last year.

rage patton
09-17-2007, 05:34 PM
I could have sworn it used to say there would be a Cabret tent... or am I just crazy?

suprefan
09-17-2007, 05:37 PM
Dollhouse Salon and Costume Shop Hosted by Citi Cards
Our friends at Citi Cards want you to look your Halloween best. Together we are bringing you the best make up artists, hair stylists, and wardrobe people Hollywood has to offer. Need a third eye? A prosthetic arm? A funky wig or a blood splatter across the face to complete your costume? No problem, let our team of masqueraders work their magic.

Also, instead of just telling people how fabulous you looked in your costume and new hairdo, you can take a picture right there on the spot. Citi Cards invites everyone to come by and get done up, take a photo, check out their services, and pick up some cool free stuff.

Vegoose Market
We've gathered together an impressive group of cool vendors for you to peruse between acts at Vegoose. These artisans offer up everything from one-of-a-kind clothing to handmade jewelry to sumptuous snacks to keep you going during the marathon of music.

Vegoose Poster Art Exhibit
Vegoose Music Festival and The American Poster Institute bring together some of the top poster artists from across the country to showcase their work made for your favorite bands. The unique aspect of this show is you get to meet the artists who actually created the work and purchase the art directly from them and not a Website or faceless showroom. Most work is hand screen printed on archival quality paper, and there are plenty of stories behind the work, so stop in and say hello and learn more about the poster explosion that is happening all over the world. Check the website for updates on the list of participating artists.

Artist Signings @ Zia’s Records
Zia Records is back at Vegoose for another year to host a variety of artist signings. Stop by for a chance to meet artists such as MIA, ALO and Thievery Corporation. Zia will also host a variety of contests and activities throughout the weekend, so make sure to check the program you receive on site for a complete schedule.

You can also enter to win a pair of tickets to Vegoose at the following Zia locations: Phoenix, Tucson, Tempe, Paradise Valley in AZ. Las Vegas in NV. Check out www.ziarecords.com for more information!

Get "HITCHED" at Vegoose!
A quickie wedding in Vegas? Let's do it! But what about that lifetime-commitment thing? No prob. At Vegoose, you can have all the plastic excitement of a Sin City hitch-up without the legal hassle. Our weddings are 100% unauthentic, but that doesn't mean they're not fancy.




Yeah, I'll be snagging a DP, Rage and Muse poster hopefully if they are created.

Wheres the beef?
09-17-2007, 05:41 PM
Yeah, I'll be snagging a DP, Rage and Muse poster hopefully if they are created.

There were like four poster booths by local poster artists at the treasure island festival and not a single one had a daft punk poster. But silversun pickups posters were in high supply...go figure.

suprefan
09-17-2007, 05:43 PM
Well, they dont make that stuff unless asked to thus why you saw no DP. And yeah SSPU are more popular in SF than L.A.

rage patton
09-17-2007, 05:46 PM
Seriously though... no one remembers seeing the Cabret Tent on the activities list originaly?

Ardentbiscuit
09-17-2007, 05:53 PM
Yeah that was on there but that was before they updated it for 2007..

suprefan
09-17-2007, 05:54 PM
Cabaret, and yes it was up there. Do you care that much if its gone now?

rage patton
09-17-2007, 05:55 PM
I havent checked the activities list in probably a month now... but when I bough tickets it said something like this

Cabaret Tent!
Returning to Vegoose 2007, the Cabaret Tent...

And it went on to describe the festivities within.

So no cabaret tent this year eh? That is either a good sign, or a very bad sign.

Mr. Dylanja
09-17-2007, 06:00 PM
even a cooler pyramid cr****

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/canexplain/daftbig.jpg

This is where the Grizzlies play, don't know the name.

Somewhat Damaged
09-17-2007, 06:22 PM
Somewhat Damaged, I sent you a PM, let me know if you didn't get it. I only mention it because I told you you the opening acts were in it.

Immigrant and Juliette Lewis's band are opening up (?!WTF!?). Show starts at 6:30 and has to be over by 10 due to Mesa noise curfew. Should still be time for a longish set as long as the roadies are efficient. Actually, I've been there before, and sometimes when the openers haven't been that well publicized, they will go on even earlier than the posted show time. I think sometimes the acts get there and realize that they HAVE to be done by 10, thinking it was just a guideline.

My bet is that Muse goes on at 8pm just in case, but will probably end by 9:45.

Ah, thanks. I just checked my PMs now -- yeah, I got yours.

Breakjaw: thanks for the Muse mix. I'm downloading it now. :)

M Sparks
09-17-2007, 07:57 PM
that is in memphis ..

Weird, I could have sworn that was the Luxor before the expansion, taken from I-15.

The tree in the foreground should have tipped me off. No trees in Vegas.

M Sparks
09-17-2007, 07:59 PM
Seriously though... no one remembers seeing the Cabret Tent on the activities list originaly?

Yeah, but then they added the header that said "2006 activities, check back for 2007"

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 06:00 AM
well at least there is progress on the vegoose site. at least they finalized the activities part.

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 07:36 AM
im hearing rumblings from my buddies that they are going to add the hives for sunday.. has anyone heard this as well?

canexplain
09-18-2007, 07:42 AM
im hearing rumblings from my buddies that they are going to add the hives for sunday.. has anyone heard this as well?

here is the latest info on the Hives that i know of ... they could only play on sunday because of their schedule ... cr****

http://www.livedaily.com/news/12811.html

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 07:42 AM
Honestly, I don't care if they bring back the cabaret tent or the Impersonators thing or have some sort of variety act like the "Yard Dogs Road Show".

When I go to a music festival I want to see more music I don't need to learn how to blow glass or try Grandma Smith's famous Funnel Cake.

Maybe the fake Elvis, Willie Nelson, Mister T, Bill Clinton, etc. wanted too much money. :)

Maybe they should have an OJ Casino Room Robbery re creation tent. They could play the audio and have different performance art groups interpret it.

As for the Hives, haven't heard anything but that would be a sweet addition! Give them a nice break from the Maroon 5 tour.

I was checking the site and there is no way to verify that rumor about the dance tent being added. They showed that one flyer with Insomniac and Disco on the bottom but I have never seen a flyer on an official site or add in a paper or a hand out with those names stamped on it. Also, if you click on partners neither of them come up. But who knows? Right?

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 07:46 AM
im also hearing thurston moore, shiny toy guns(one off date from their current tour with blue october), and the polyphonic spree. any news on them?

rage patton
09-18-2007, 07:50 AM
Holy shit. The Hives and Polyphonic Spree would actually make the happiest person ever. If I wasnt going to Vegoose and waiting on additions... those 2 bands would be enough to bring me in.
Goddamn rumours. I bet neither are going to happen. Oh well. Im stoked with the line up as it is.

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 07:59 AM
It would be awesome if Polyphonic and The Hives were added but I've heard no rumors about these bands being added...

I haven't heard any rumors at all. Usually when a festival is this close something comes out.

Either they are really good at keeping a secret or they don't have anything to tell us.

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 09:30 AM
On that ESL records offer it mentions all these places that you get priority into and one of them is the "Eyecandy Sound Lounge". Does anybody know where that is?

Also, I noticed they removed the "Separate Ticket Required" from the Thievery Corporation DJ set and it's only on the live show at HOB now.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 09:53 AM
Honestly, I don't care if they bring back the cabaret tent or the Impersonators thing or have some sort of variety act like the "Yard Dogs Road Show".

When I go to a music festival I want to see more music I don't need to learn how to blow glass or try Grandma Smith's famous Funnel Cake.

All agreed, except for the funnel cake.

The other rumor...and this is from a VERY poor source, but it does fit in their schedule...is Fishbone. They are here in Flagstaff Friday, somewhere in Utah Saturday, and then nothing until Texas Tues or Weds.

When I say "poor source", I'm talking about a stoner on the Vegoose board.

canexplain
09-18-2007, 09:57 AM
All agreed, except for the funnel cake.

The other rumor...and this is from a VERY poor source, but it does fit in their schedule...is Fishbone. They are here in Flagstaff Friday, somewhere in Utah Saturday, and then nothing until Texas Tues or Weds.

When I say "poor source", I'm talking about a stoner on the Vegoose board.

now sparks, dont call "my people" stoners :) cr****

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 10:00 AM
im also hearing thurston moore, shiny toy guns(one off date from their current tour with blue october), and the polyphonic spree. any news on them?

Didn't someone mention Blue October a few days ago? (I know nothing about them.) They are both (BO & STG) in Phoenix on Saturday.

Sunday fits perfectly in Thurston's and the Spree's schedules too.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 10:02 AM
now sparks, dont call "my people" stoners :) cr****

I wouldn't consider you a "stoner", Ron.

I did get a kick out of that conversation you two had a few days ago. I've never seen anybody else keep him focused that long. :)

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 10:06 AM
On that ESL records offer it mentions all these places that you get priority into and one of them is the "Eyecandy Sound Lounge". Does anybody know where that is?

Also, I noticed they removed the "Separate Ticket Required" from the Thievery Corporation DJ set and it's only on the live show at HOB now.

All the ESL stuff is at Mandalay Bay, I think.

The "ticket" thing was probably just a mistake. I got a Myspace request from the Mix Lounge yesterday, and it didn't say anything about a ticket.

canexplain
09-18-2007, 10:08 AM
Didn't someone mention Blue October a few days ago? (I know nothing about them.) They are both (BO & STG) in Phoenix on Saturday.

Sunday fits perfectly in Thurston's and the Spree's schedules too.

i swore i would not listen to or see blue october because they were so radio friendly here, but we went and saw them, and they were pretty good .... sort of a genesis sort of sound ... i have to try and remember ... i know somehow i got two extra tics so i gave them to some dude that flew his soon to be bride all the way up from somewhere in texas just to see them .... i know i wouldnt do that, but i would go see them again .... cr****

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 10:15 AM
The Hives are supposedly playing The Pearl on November 10th, so that seems like an unlikely add.

Check THIS out...

"Ghostface Killah will headline the first concert tour produced by Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, the late-night programming block for young adults.

Witchdoctor will handle support duties for the tour, which kicks off October 1 at SUNY in Albany, N.Y. ... Tickets for all shows, which are free, can be obtained at www.adultswimpresents.com.

A second tour featuring And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead and Dethklock, the heavy metal band from Adult Swim's "Metalocalypse" series, will begin October 29. "

http://www.magneticmediafed.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/dethklok.jpg

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 10:18 AM
.... sort of a genesis sort of sound ...

'68-'76? '77-'81? or '82-now?

Because I can't tell if you are praising or damning them.

canexplain
09-18-2007, 10:24 AM
'68-'76? '77-'81? or '82-now?

Because I can't tell if you are praising or damning them.

the better early stuff on genesis ... you would reconize that overplayed one song ... have to think which one it was ... hate me ?, they were ok i am saying , not killer or sucky .... how you like that professional review :) cr****

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
09-18-2007, 10:25 AM
68 to 75 Genesis is the best....

canexplain
09-18-2007, 10:32 AM
68 to 75 Genesis is the best....

yep for sure, i think Peter left around 75 after The Lamb came out, which i still listen to the double lp and enjoy it .... hey that was only 32 years ago ... yikes isnt that so strange for peeps who heard that lp when it was new ... cr****

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 10:35 AM
But '77-'81 is OK. I was splitting that into great/good/awful.

"Abacab" is bad, but entertaining in a cheesy way.

I have no problem with admitting to liking "Duke".

"And Then There Were Three" is basically a Peter Gabriel Genesis album with Phil Collins on vocals. The last song ("Follow You...") is the only sign of their embarrassing future, and it's still pretty good.

"That's All" is the mostly aptly named song they ever did...it's like "We're out of good musical ideas...that's all...nothing to see here."

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 10:39 AM
I was excited for Dethklok until I saw a photo of them in real life...

TV
http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/Q/k/met_band_500.jpg
Real Life
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bnagy/halloween2006Pics/thumbnails/s1.jpg
:D

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 10:52 AM
I think the problem with the Vegoose is that AC/Superfly just doesn't care. They know their cash cow is Bonnaroo and Vegoose is some kind of pet project. They probably figure if it works great, if it doesn't, oh well..

I wish Vegoose had the excitment of the Echo Project in Atlanta.

http://www.the-echoproject.com

Hey they have The Egg and MSTRKFRT, Polyphonic Spree, Rabbit in the Moon, Clap your Hands Say Yeah, Greenskeepers, and many others. It seems pretty cool for a first time effort.

The only thing that aggravates me about Vegoose is that they promised "MANY MANY MORE ADDITIONS" and they seem to be backing out. It's just annoying...don't promise me things if you aren't going to do it.

I know this will depress people but I do like Blue October!

luckyface
09-18-2007, 11:06 AM
I think the problem with the Vegoose is that AC/Superfly just doesn't care. They know their cash cow is Bonnaroo and Vegoose is some kind of pet project. They probably figure if it works great, if it doesn't, oh well..

I wish Vegoose had the excitment of the Echo Project in Atlanta.

http://www.the-echoproject.com

Hey they have The Egg and MSTRKFRT, Polyphonic Spree, Rabbit in the Moon, Clap your Hands Say Yeah, Greenskeepers, and many others. It seems pretty cool for a first time effort.

The only thing that aggravates me about Vegoose is that they promised "MANY MANY MORE ADDITIONS" and they seem to be backing out. It's just annoying...don't promise me things if you aren't going to do it.

I know this will depress people but I do like Blue October!

Wow, that is a pretty nice lineup there. The Egg?? Have they ever toured the US? I would love to see them!

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 11:10 AM
The only thing that aggravates me about Vegoose is that they promised "MANY MANY MORE ADDITIONS" and they seem to be backing out.



and many more to be announced!

Those bastards used to say "many MANY more", and now they only have one "many". We should sue!:rolleyes

Until they either announce "This is the final lineup", or the event has passed with no additions, they haven't "backed out" of anything.

suprefan
09-18-2007, 11:14 AM
The Hives are supposedly playing The Pearl on November 10th, so that seems like an unlikely add.

Check THIS out...

"Ghostface Killah will headline the first concert tour produced by Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, the late-night programming block for young adults.

Witchdoctor will handle support duties for the tour, which kicks off October 1 at SUNY in Albany, N.Y. ... Tickets for all shows, which are free, can be obtained at www.adultswimpresents.com.

A second tour featuring And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead and Dethklock, the heavy metal band from Adult Swim's "Metalocalypse" series, will begin October 29. "

http://www.magneticmediafed.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/dethklok.jpg


upcoming shows thread, I put the link for that tour.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 11:25 AM
upcoming shows thread, I put the link for that tour.

OK Supe, fine, whatever, you're the king. Could you please share it again, or should I just go sort through all 150 pages.

BlueDevil50
09-18-2007, 11:33 AM
Atmosphere just got added to saturday according to their myspace page!

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 11:39 AM
Thanks BD50...they were a big hit in the tent in 2005.

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 11:40 AM
Honestly, at this point I don't care what they add. They've made me wait so long I could care less. If it's 3 bands per stage per day. Oh well, at least I'll have lots of time to to look at the wacky costumes and leer at the scantily clad girls (don't let me down Halloween sluts! Please!).

I loved Coachella this year, the day of the event people were still posting, maybe there will be more additions or surprises at the event. At that point, it's like, please give it up! You've officially lost your mind...

The Egg played in the US once like 10 years ago at this little bar and I missed it because of a family get together. ARGH!

anti-square
09-18-2007, 11:44 AM
they are slated for saturday...so this means plenty of addition for sunday i would assume

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 11:45 AM
yeah im definetely looking forward to the halloween whores! very good for me to look at! :)

i feel the same that the lineup is cool for me. already made the arrangements. and actually this trip has now become for me more about the experience than the festival. i mean im gonna be there 5 nights. gonna see korn, see a musical for my girl, (she like to look at the halloween whores too! :) , gonna take it all in then cap it off with 2 days of music so its all good.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 11:47 AM
Hmmm...try searching "Sam Boyd Stadium" on Myspace...

Jason Crosby Oct 28th (http://www.myspace.com/jasoncrosbymusic)

Still sorting...

EDIT...I'm a third of the way through, can't seem to be able to narrow it down to just music calendar. I've seen Ardent's page and blog go by 5 times. :) I give up.

canexplain
09-18-2007, 11:53 AM
yeah im definetely looking forward to the halloween whores! very good for me to look at! :)

i feel the same that the lineup is cool for me. already made the arrangements. and actually this trip has now become for me more about the experience than the festival. i mean im gonna be there 5 nights. gonna see korn, see a musical for my girl, (she like to look at the halloween whores too! :) , gonna take it all in then cap it off with 2 days of music so its all good.

scoop, my gal tygerlady and i are in vegas from oct 26th thru nov 2nd ... maybe sometime outside of the fest we can have a beer together ... my sis is going to be out there too, and she is lots of fun ... cr****

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 11:53 AM
If all the accidental postings and stuff were right then Round 3 should be:

Atmopshere
Kraftwerk
Modest Mouse
Of Montreal

With more artists TBA!

And then the surprise addition of the Dance Tent replacing the Impersonators Lounge and the Cabaret Tent.

But alas that is wishful thinking.

I am sure this weeks update will be the follow instead:

New activities:

Spend more Money!

Visit the market place and learn to spend money better. You haven't spent enough yet and we want to show you how to more efficiently and without remorse part with your hard earned dollars.

And then something about how they have partnered with Citi Bank to introduce the new AC/Superfly Visa card which you can get with either Vegoose or Bonnaroo artwork. Accepted all places were VISA is accepted.

Then there will be something about the addition of artists that are soooooooo unknown that not even google, wikipedia, ask jeeves, or yahoo could find them.

And then finally they will add a package deal that will only save you about 20 cents...

Just kidding! :)

rage patton
09-18-2007, 12:11 PM
Atmosphere would be a good add to Sunday. If no one else is playing during his set, Id go watch him.
And every addition to Saturday means less chance that Gogol Bordello and Battles will conflict. That would pretty much be the worst conflict ever.

I actually kind hope Modest Mouse and Kraftwerk dont get added anymore though. If Kraftwerk were added, I just KNOW I would have to miss them. Im guessing they would be put on a stage either during/after Muse or just before/during Rage. And as for Modest Mouse, I hear they basicaly play all of We Were Dead... and I hate that album.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 12:38 PM
Atmosphere would be a good add to Sunday.

Myspace says Saturday.

Bud Luster
09-18-2007, 12:57 PM
Kraftwerk = Saturday













just hoping...

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 01:12 PM
scoop, my gal tygerlady and i are in vegas from oct 26th thru nov 2nd ... maybe sometime outside of the fest we can have a beer together ... my sis is going to be out there too, and she is lots of fun ... cr****

its all good. im looking to have as much fun as possible.. i always like having beer and talking music..

yeah, there seems to be more rumblings on this festival so maybe its picking up. if not this week, then i guess it stays as is, which is fine but damn they are dragging ass...

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 01:26 PM
Kill Shiny Toy Guns/Blue October from the rumor list. They are playing The Pearl a few days before Vegoose.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 01:28 PM
2 Myspace leaks + activities finally posted + increase in new rumors = Something's happening soon.

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 01:34 PM
the rumor for shiny toy guns was they play a one off date..

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 01:35 PM
Atmosphere is confirmed:

ATMOSPHERE CONFIRMED TO PLAY VEGOOSE FESTIVAL IN LAS VEGAS, NV

We're excited to announce that ATMOSPHERE is confirmed to perform at the third annual VEGOOSE Music Festival. The festival will take place during the weekend of Oct. 26 – 28 in Las Vegas, Nevada with Atmosphere performing on Saturday, October 27, 2007.

As usual, the heart of this unforgettable entertainment extravaganza will be
staged on Saturday and Sunday, Oct. 27 and 28, around Sam Boyd Stadium,
encompassing not only the stadium itself but the surrounding complex –
highlighted by the 30-acre grassy Star Nursery Field with it's stunningly
beautiful mountain backdrop. Building onto last year's activities and
attractions, such as the Impersonators Café, the Wedding Chapel, and the
Great Evil Pumpkin, this year's festival will include an even more dazzling
array of delightfully entertaining tricks and treats.

How to get tickets: Two-day general admission, single day tickets and VIP
ticket packages for the shows at Sam Boyd Stadium and Star Nursery Field are
on sale NOW at www.vegoose.com. Tickets will also be available through UNLV
Buy Tickets

Here's the full line up for each date:
Saturday:
Daft Punk
Iggy & the Stooges
The Shins
Cypress Hill
Queens of the Stone Age
Public Enemy
STS9
Thievery Corporation
M.I.A.
Atmosphere
Mastodon
Blonde Redhead
Lupe Fiasco
Gogol Bordello
Battles

Sunday:
Rage Against The Machine
Muse
moe.
Michael Franti & Spearhead
Umphrey's McGee
Robert Randolph & The Family Band
Ghostface Killah & The Rhythm Roots Allstars
UNKLE
Ghostland Observatory
Pharoahe Monch
ALO

For complete details and show listings, check out:
myspace.com/atmosphere
Atmosphere On Tour

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 01:45 PM
the rumor for shiny toy guns was they play a one off date..

Yes, but you had mentioned Blue October a few pages back, that's why I tied them together.

Seems odd to play Vegas on Wednesday, then come back a few days later.

suprefan
09-18-2007, 01:47 PM
Ok, cool Atmosphere got added to SATURDAY, what the hell? So Sunday is getting creamed at the moment with no strong undercard.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 01:49 PM
Atmosphere is confirmed:

ATMOSPHERE CONFIRMED TO PLAY VEGOOSE FESTIVAL IN LAS VEGAS, NV


OK...this is weird. I just got a Myspace bulletin from that stupid Thomas & Mack account that's always 3 days behind. The title is about Atmosphere, but the body of the message is just the OLD pre-Lupe/ALO poster.

So maybe this is how it goes? Dribble things out one at a time and see if anyone bites?

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 01:52 PM
Ok, cool Atmosphere got added to SATURDAY, what the hell?

Yeah, and MORE hip-hop for Saturday? And if that Common rumor comes true, he'd have to go Saturday too.

And that Jason Crosby guy seems like he's for the jam fans, but he's on Sunday which already has Jam overload.

suprefan
09-18-2007, 01:54 PM
I just see a problem with Superfly thinking just having Rage on Sunday with 10 other bands is what is making it the draw.

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 01:55 PM
Yes, but you had mentioned Blue October a few pages back, that's why I tied them together.

Seems odd to play Vegas on Wednesday, then come back a few days later.

its all good. i dont think they will play. i had considered going to see them wed but have decided to go see korn at the joint!

suprefan
09-18-2007, 01:56 PM
Oh and Zach finished his solo album finally, ooooooooh.

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 01:58 PM
i want to get my fix of metal with korn five finger death punch and droid. good first night! then its 2 days of vegas loving then do the vegoose thing. really pumped for this! :)

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 02:00 PM
RATM should do their own festival next year so tom can do a nightwatchmen set and zack can do a solo set then ratm clsoes! :)

Abe Lincoln
09-18-2007, 02:01 PM
But '77-'81 is OK. I was splitting that into great/good/awful.

"Abacab" is bad, but entertaining in a cheesy way.

I have no problem with admitting to liking "Duke".

"And Then There Were Three" is basically a Peter Gabriel Genesis album with Phil Collins on vocals. The last song ("Follow You...") is the only sign of their embarrassing future, and it's still pretty good.

"That's All" is the mostly aptly named song they ever did...it's like "We're out of good musical ideas...that's all...nothing to see here."
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your ass. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.
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M Sparks
09-18-2007, 02:17 PM
RATM should do their own festival next year so tom can do a nightwatchmen set and zack can do a solo set then ratm clsoes! :)

VEGOOSE 2008!

SATURDAY
Bauhaus
Love + Rockets
Peter Murphy
David J
Tones On Tail
Daniel Ash
Kevin Haskins (DJ Set)
The Bubblemen

SUNDAY
Ministry
Revolting Cocks
Lard
Killing Joke
Pigface
PTP
Prong
Fear Factory
Chris Connolly
Jello Biafra
Damage Manual
Pailhead
Murder Inc
1000 Homo DJs
Acid Horse
Lead Into Gold
Buck Satan & The 666 Shooters
Special Affect

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 02:20 PM
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work.

Do you like Huey Lewis & The News?

gaypalmsprings
09-18-2007, 02:21 PM
Do you like Huey Lewis & The News?

I saw Genesis back in the 70s & Huey Lewis in the 80s

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 02:26 PM
I saw Genesis back in the 70s & Huey Lewis in the 80s

This is the moment Straight Palm Springs realized he was Gay Palm Springs

http://www.follow-me-now.de/assets/images/American_Psycho-1.jpg

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 02:28 PM
i thought genesis was a ok group.. in too deep i always dug. made out with a girl while that song was on. why i remember that i ahve no idea! :)

huey lewis had a couple of songs that were ok. they were big in the mid 80's

both of these groups were huge MTV bands. u gotta remember that they were a part of the beginning of it when kids like me were mesmerized by the videos and both of these groups were good at making decent videos back then to keep us interested.

now there music seems really outdated..although mama from genesis is a great song.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 02:38 PM
http://www.canberratheatre.org.au/pages/event/images/Awkward.jpg

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 03:36 PM
atmosphere is now officially on the vegoose 2007 lineup page.

now that they were added to saturday. you would think its a guarantee they are gonna add more groups for sunday... right?

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 03:51 PM
Jason Crosby is not an add..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Randolph_And_The_Family_Band

Read on, he is Keyboard and Fiddle for "Robert Randolph and the Family Band"...

Just an FYI..

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 04:22 PM
Ahhh thanks. I wondered, because he had Randolph on his Myspace friends, but everything indicated that he was a solo artist.

I found another thing like that, but the guy was clear he plays with ALO.

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 04:30 PM
atmosphere is now officially on the vegoose 2007 lineup page.

now that they were added to saturday. you would think its a guarantee they are gonna add more groups for sunday... right?

Yes, I would think that. But their methods keep getting stranger. I mean, now they're just quietly putting names on the website. The announcements came from the artist and the venue.

Maybe Atmosphere let it slip, then the venue decided "If the promoter isn't going to promote this show, we'll do it."

M Sparks
09-18-2007, 04:37 PM
Did you notice the Atmosphere bio on the page is written as if it's 2005?

A lot of those bios are out of date, but I bet they just grabbed the one they had on file so they could get it up quick.

Ardentbiscuit
09-18-2007, 05:06 PM
Maybe sunday is going to end earlier.

scoop49er
09-18-2007, 05:16 PM
m sparks, im with u in regards to their announcements. i understand that atmosphere is a minor addition, but it is a addition with nothing announced on their official site except the addition.

maybe it is going to end earlier on sunday. but if i ahd to make a revised prediction, it would be that sunday is selling well and saturday isnt so they want to fill up the sat lineup with more bands.

well we are up to 26 bands. what is everyone's final prediction on the amt of bands who will play?:

im gonna go with 32. 18 for sat, 14 for sun. i still think they will add some bands over the next 2 weeks.

what is urs?

suprefan
09-18-2007, 05:23 PM
sunday needs bmore acts to fill all the stages all the Saturday acts will have occupied. They need to even it out and stop thinking the overload on Saturday will offset whatever xrazy ticket sales are happening for sunday. they are probably thinking that all the Rage heads just care for Rage and thats it, which isnt totaly true but come on.

g0k1ngsg0
09-18-2007, 05:24 PM
4 stages, 40 bands!

i'd be happy with anything over 30 (i'm happy now, i'd just be happier)

crazzz2007
09-18-2007, 07:06 PM
upcoming shows thread, I put the link for that tour.

wait to go, supre. great job. :thu

PrettyRagdoll
09-18-2007, 09:59 PM
I don't know, if the NOISettes hadn't announced that they'd be taking a break after LA Detour, I'd say they would probably be a sure thing for an addition

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 05:15 AM
wait to go, supre. great job. :thu

Yeah, and I still haven't found the link. Went through about 10 pages, and then actually ran a search for Supe's posts.

So helpful.

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 06:01 AM
OK...this is very good news.

Maroon 5 has the Nov 10th date at the Pearl on their schedule. But The Hives aren't opening...just Phantom Planet.

But The Hives are on the Nov 9th show in San Diego. Why would they drop off the last day of the tour? Maybe because they are already playing Vegas a couple weeks earlier?

scoop49er
09-19-2007, 06:08 AM
i thought since everyone in this thread is really into music and music festivals, i found a really good article on festival wars. hope u like it.. i found it really interesting..:)


Festival wars
Street Scene is part of the industry's newest turf battle
by Troy Johnson

No matter how large the memory of Woodstock looms over the American consciousness, music festivals are not a U.S. phenomenon. Or, rather, they didn't used to be.

The Coachella Arts & Music Festival didn't start until 1999, the same year riots and rapes at the retooled Woodstock cast doubt on the future of festivals, period. Four of the nation's largest music festivals--Bonnaroo, Austin City Limits, Lollapalooza (which started in 1991, then was canceled in 1998 and revived in 2003) and Vegoose--didn't exist in 2001.

For a nation of 300 million, the U.S. boasts only four major secular music festivals with a tradition of more than a decade: Seattle's Bumbershoot, New Orleans Jazz Fest, Milwaukee's Summerfest (aka The Big Gig) and San Diego's Street Scene.

Until recently in the U.S., "people thought festivals and they saw the fires of Woodstock in their eyes," says Gary Bongiovanni, editor in chief of concert-industry trade magazine Pollstar. "The festival culture in Europe is very well established because they didn't have the modern arenas that we have in the United States. So if an artist wanted to play in front of a lot of people, they had to do it outside in the summer."

Since 2002, the number of major U.S. festivals has doubled while attendance at amphitheatre shows has dipped big-time. Many music industry insiders say it's not a fleeting trend: huge, multi-day music festivals are the future of the U.S. concert business.

"Festivals are hot, and hopefully they get hotter," says Michele Scoleri, Bumbershoot's director of programming. "We've been doing this a very long time, and now we get to enjoy the ride."

"It's obviously a time when festivals have reached a critical mass," says Rick Farman, a partner in Superfly Productions, which co-produces both Bonnaroo and Vegoose.

Even industry players who aren't affiliated with the market agree: It's a race to grab up as many festivals as possible.

A balk in the park

San Diego promoter Rob Hagey started Street Scene in 1984 as a two-stage community event that featured roots acts like Los Lobos, The Neville Brothers, The Blasters, Robert Cray and X. The event doubled as a marketing campaign for downtown San Diego, which at the time was known more for muggings than for upscale clubbing.

Although Street Scene grew in size each year, the lineup remained diverse--jazz, blues, rock, Latin, reggae, rock, roots--until 2004.

"I know Rob was having trouble making money," says Chris Goldsmith, talent buyer at Solana Beach's Belly Up Tavern and a former agent who supplied bands to Street Scene. "He had to make some changes in the programming to make money. Maybe it could've evolved as this mix of roots music. But the reality is that San Diego ain't that hip."

That's why 2003 performers like Yonder Mountain String Band, Buckwheat Zydeco and Radio Mundial weren't invited back the following year. Instead, Hagey went with big-money, mainstream rock and hip-hop acts like P.O.D., Ludacris, Jack Johnson, Foo Fighters, Jimmy Eat World and The Killers. He also made the event all-ages for the first time since 1994.

From a business standpoint, it was a good move. Street Scene pulled in a record 105,000 people in two days, breaking its own record of 100,000, set back in 2001. Unfortunately, downtown San Diego was experiencing a similar explosion. As one insider explains, "The business owners used to welcome [Street Scene]. But once downtown was revitalized, it really hurt businesses. The Chamber [of Commerce] and the Gaslamp Association started to galvanize against the event."

Downtown San Diego, in essence, no longer needed Street Scene's brand of public relations. Conveniently, the area's development also meant there was no room for a festival of its size. Squeezed out of the Gaslamp, Street Scene moved to Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley for 2005 and 2006. While Hagey and his production company did an admirable job of transforming the venue--and the stadium's expansive parking lot made for easy stage-to-stage access--many fans grumbled, calling it "Parking Lot Scene."

Despite big-ticket headliners (Pixies and The White Stripes in '05, Tool and Kanye West in '06), sales took a nosedive. As one source close to the Street Scene camp said, "Qualcomm was not the answer. It had no sex appeal. I knew [Hagey was going to sell the event] before the last Street Scene."

It was true. Street Scene's indie days were over. But before he sold it, Hagey made one last attempt to find his 23-year-old project a home. On Dec. 7, 2006, he went before the Balboa Park Committee with a proposal to hold the event amid 1,200 acres of city-owned greenery.

Holding Street Scene in Balboa Park seemed to make sense. All but two of the nation's largest festivals are held either in city parks, on fairgrounds or on a godforsaken farm in the middle of nowhere (Bonnaroo). Bumbershoot is held in the Seattle Center, which, like Balboa Park, was built around the turn of the century to host a world's fair.

Hagey was roundly rejected. Reports in the Union-Tribune made it seem as if he were one instigative chuckle from being laughed out of the room. Committee member Vicki Granowitz was quoted as saying, "You couldn't pay the park enough to have this event."

When revisiting the topic last week, Granowitz--who has now become the chair of the committee--explained, "Did you ever see the map of what they're proposing? Oh, you've got to see it. They proposed taking the entire Sixth Avenue lawn and closing Laurel Street. The western edge of the event would be the middle of Sixth Avenue--all fenced in. The center of the city would be gridlocked."

When asked if there was consideration of Street Scene's role as part of the city's cultural identity, Granowitz replied, "It's a private enterprise, not a nonprofit. We have large events at the park, and most of those are either nonprofit or they somehow have been with us a long time and are part of our culture."

Granowitz pointed out that, unlike the Gaslamp, Balboa Park is surrounded by residential neighborhoods. Plus, she maintained, people who choose to live downtown are expected to tolerate a certain amount of noise. The community around Balboa Park, on the other hand, didn't sign up for "a rock concert in the middle of a residential area."

Granowitz doesn't come across like the fun-squashing conservative she seemed in the Union-Tribune article. Most of her reasons are logistical--noise, traffic and conflicts with other park events (outdoor concerts, plays, museum exhibitions). One of her points, though, is totally subjective: she believes the event doesn't "fit the character" of Balboa Park.

The Belly Up's Goldsmith offered a counterpoint: "They have 70 planes flying directly above them every hour at Balboa Park--I think the residents are used to a little bit of noise. If Rob would've been able to get Balboa Park, I don't think he would've sold [Street Scene]."

Regardless, Granowitz makes very clear that in its current form, Street Scene will not happen in Balboa Park. Not in 2007. Not ever.

After the park's rejection, Hagey was ready to sell. But who would buy it? The event had lost its namesake home (the "streets" of San Diego). Attendance had declined two years in a row. It seemed in the midst of a massive identity crisis, possibly on its last legs.

Despite the dwindling value of the brand, there were interested buyers. Viejas looked into the idea, but the numbers didn't add up. AEG Live also struck up talks with Hagey. Then, on April 9, it was announced that Rob Hagey Productions had partnered with L.A.-based Live Nation. Though the specifics of the deal have not been disclosed (Hagey didn't respond to CityBeat's requests for comment), it's believed that Live Nation purchased a large majority of Street Scene and that Hagey serves in a minor role as a consultant.

Goliath's immediate bruising

Live Nation, a spin-off of Clear Channel Communications, is the world's largest live-event company. In July 2006, it purchased House of Blues, thus gaining control of five prime San Diego venues: Coors Amphitheatre, Cox Arena, SDSU Open Air Theatre, 4th & B and, of course, HOB's downtown location.

Some viewed Live Nation's acquisition of Street Scene in doomsday terms--an out-of-town corporation taking control of an independently owned, local festival. Others saw added value--with Live Nation's massive buying clout, surely Radiohead and The Police and [enter dream band here] would be coming to Street Scene 2007, right?

In any case, Live Nation suffered immediate headaches. The first struggle was finding a location. Nick Masters, the company's Southern California president, explored countless options. Earlier this year, Masters told CityBeat that his ideal was the 60-acre San Diego Polo Field on the western edge of Rancho Santa Fe, a spot similar to Coachella's. But a Polo Club representative said this week that it's impossible--the community of Rancho Santa Fe mandates all new events on the premises be focused on "equestrian activities." Masters even considered golf courses but realized semi-trucks wouldn't be able to navigate the rolling landscape.

On April 10, Live Nation announced it had come to terms with the Del Mar Fairgrounds to hold the event.

This was news to folks at the fairgrounds.

"They actually rolled out the announcement before it was a topic for our board members, [who] found out about it online," says fairgrounds spokesperson Kina Paegert. "Discussions had begun, but I don't think [Live Nation] necessarily knew there was a board of directors who needed to sign off on it. There was a learning curve."

The fairgrounds' board of directors eventually approved the deal, but not until June 5--a lengthy process that some say interfered with Live Nation's ability to book talent.

And talent booking was by far the largest obstacle for Street Scene '07.

Having taken over in April, Live Nation's staff had only five months to identify, negotiate with and secure some of the biggest names in popular music. (Ideally, all acts would be booked in two-and-a-half months, in time for pre-sale tickets). In relative terms, Live Nation started looking for bands at the point when both Bonnaroo and Bumbershoot have a majority of their lineups locked in. Most bands had already scheduled summer tours.

In June, The White Stripes and Smashing Pumpkins--two viable headliners for Street Scene--announced they'd be playing in San Diego around the time Street Scene was scheduled. However, they'd be playing at Viejas-operated Embarcadero Marina. (The White Stripes have since canceled their tour, and the Pumpkins have moved to Live Nation-operated Open Air Theatre.)

On June 18, the initial lineup was announced. Headliners included The Killers, Panic! At the Disco, Air, Arctic Monkeys and Muse. Viewed in a vacuum, it was a fine bill. When compared with Street Scenes of recent years, it was not. And few would claim it's in the same class as Lollapalooza (Pearl Jam, Daft Punk, My Morning Jacket) or Austin City Limits (Bob Dylan, Björk, Wilco, Arcade Fire).

Masters admitted publicly that he hadn't gotten what he wanted. He told the Union-Tribune that attempts to land The Police and Coldplay were unsuccessful. Another industry source said an offer went out to U2, but no dice.

Not surprisingly, ticket sales were slow. Real slow. Two-day tickets and VIP packages went on sale June 23. Del Mar's Paegert says that only a total of 931 had sold by Aug. 3--the day Live Nation announced it was moving the event, again, to Coors Amphitheatre.

While fans were nonplussed by the move to Del Mar, they seemed truly offended by the downgrade to Coors. What was once a festival that twisted through the heart of San Diego's budding urbanity was now slated for an amphitheatre in Chula Vista--the same type of venue that most festival operators (including Bonnaroo's Farman) blame for bland live music experiences.

"Sure, I'd love to watch Spoon, Muse, Social D or the Supersuckers tear it up," says local musician Michael Rennie. "But is it worth four hours in traffic to cram into a cement semi-circle and watch abbreviated sets? Nah. I'd rather wait until their next solo tours."

However, the move was a necessity. First, a poorly attended event at the spacious fairgrounds would be a glaring failure; the more "intimate" Coors could make 10,000 people look like a decent gig. Second, Live Nation owns Coors Amphitheatre, which means it could save on production costs. The deposit the company forfeited when backing out of the fairgrounds was a small price in comparison to the savings.

Live Nation was essentially conceding that Street Scene 2007 would be a financial bust. Damage control was in effect.

The bigger question was--why bother at all? Why would Live Nation buy a sagging brand and suffer through a financial disaster in its first year? Why not just pull the plug?

The fight for the future

For years, summer has been considered the "festival season" in Europe and "amphitheatre season" in the United States. Live Nation was the first to corner the market in Europe with partner company Mean Fiddler, which is behind the massive Leeds and Reading festivals.

Meanwhile, AEG--the No. 2 live-event company in the U.S.--managed to get a leg up domestically, with stakes in Coachella, Jazz Fest and, as of last February, Bumbershoot. Other players, such as C3 Presents (Austin City Limits, Lollapalooza) and the partnership of Superfly and AC Entertainment (Bonnaroo, Vegoose), have seen similar success Stateside.

In light of the success--as well as the sharp decline of sales for amphitheatre shows--Live Nation CEO Michael Rapino has informed the press and its investors of his company's plan to move aggressively into the U.S. festival circuit.

In 2006, Live Nation began selling off venues in smaller markets. Earlier this year, it acquired a majority stake of Bamboozle, an annual multi-day festival in New York. In his presentation at the Credit Suisse Media and Telecom Week Conference last December, Rapino expressed a desire to monetize every aspect of the live-music experience, from concessions to ticket sales.

One way to do that, says the Belly Up's Goldsmith, is to locate "alternative venues" such as the Indio Polo Fields (Coachella) or Bonnaroo's Tennessee farm. "In some respects, the alternate venue was created as a way to get a grip on the concessions," he says. "There are all of these ancillary revenue sources, where if you control the venue, you can make a boatload."

It's rumored that plans are in the works to establish a major music festival in each of the top 25 markets in the United States. Whoever can reach a critical mass first will be able to strike exclusivity deals. In other words, they could tell an act like The White Stripes, "Look, we've got these 20 festivals, which could fill your entire summer schedule. We'll pay you a premium to only play ours."

If true, the race between Live Nation and AEG is on.

In July 2006, L.A.-based AEG announced it was opening a San Diego branch and possibly building a new, 6,000-seat venue somewhere in the city. It hired away all but one of Viejas Entertainment's staff, including president Steve Redfearn.

Knowing AEG had spoken with Hagey about Street Scene, Live Nation's investment makes a little more sense. Live Nation's valuation of the festival goes up if the purchase is viewed as a defensive move--whatever it takes to prevent AEG from gaining another dot on the rapidly expanding festival map.

If this theory is correct, the U.S. festival market is now a Monopoly game. AEG has Park Place (Coachella), North Carolina Avenue (Jazz Fest) and B&O Railroad (Bumbershoot). Live Nation just bought Kentucky Avenue (Street Scene) but has a ton of money in the bank and is looking for more.

It will come

So what will become of Street Scene?

Some predict Live Nation will kill the brand after this year and establish a new, differently named festival at the Del Mar Fairgrounds in 2008. Others say it'll keep the name and, with more time to book top talent, bring it back with the best lineup and festival atmosphere San Diego's ever seen.

It's impossible to say for sure, since Nick Masters declined to comment for this story. One thing seems certain--the gods of the industry have decided that festivals are the future. And San Diego will have its own.

The fairgrounds will likely host such a festival, whether it's Street Scene or something else created by Live Nation or AEG. With more than 241 acres, the space is massive. It has a minor history of concerts, from the grandstand shows during the San Diego County Fair to racing season's 4 O'Clock Fridays.

In 2005, the two-day Festival Del Mar brought more than 10,000 people to the fairgrounds to see the likes of Etta James, Jason Mraz, Taj Majal and The Blind Boys of Alabama. The Belly Up's Goldsmith served as artistic director for the event and cited Street Scene's abandonment of roots and world music as part of the inspiration. But when attendance declined the second year, Festival Del Mar wasn't brought back for 2007.

Sources say Festival Del Mar simply didn't have the budget for marquee acts that can draw people to a new concept at a relatively unproven venue. With the deep pockets of AEG and Live Nation, however, a festival of Coachella-like proportions is plausible.

"A lot of people are disenfranchised from the normal amphitheatre experience," says Superfly's Farman. "In general, I think people are looking for more enveloping experiences. Just to go see a show for two or three hours and then go home, how much do you actually break out of your normal life for that? You're still checking your e-mail, going home and watching CNN.

"A festival is a chance to break away from the normal hustle and bustle of life and really involve yourself in something," Farman says. "I think that's what's made the festival culture and business successful, and it's here to stay for a long time."

scoop49er
09-19-2007, 06:32 AM
ok i heard about the hives, now i heard about the donnas. anyone else heard this?

gaypalmsprings
09-19-2007, 06:34 AM
i thought since everyone in this thread is really into music and music festivals, i found a really good article on festival wars. hope u like it.. i found it really interesting..:)


Festival wars
Street Scene is part of the industry's newest turf battle
by Troy Johnson

No matter how large the memory of Woodstock looms over the American consciousness, music festivals are not a U.S. phenomenon. Or, rather, they didn't used to be.

The Coachella Arts & Music Festival didn't start until 1999, the same year riots and rapes at the retooled Woodstock cast doubt on the future of festivals, period. Four of the nation's largest music festivals--Bonnaroo, Austin City Limits, Lollapalooza (which started in 1991, then was canceled in 1998 and revived in 2003) and Vegoose--didn't exist in 2001.

For a nation of 300 million, the U.S. boasts only four major secular music festivals with a tradition of more than a decade: Seattle's Bumbershoot, New Orleans Jazz Fest, Milwaukee's Summerfest (aka The Big Gig) and San Diego's Street Scene.

Until recently in the U.S., "people thought festivals and they saw the fires of Woodstock in their eyes," says Gary Bongiovanni, editor in chief of concert-industry trade magazine Pollstar. "The festival culture in Europe is very well established because they didn't have the modern arenas that we have in the United States. So if an artist wanted to play in front of a lot of people, they had to do it outside in the summer."

Since 2002, the number of major U.S. festivals has doubled while attendance at amphitheatre shows has dipped big-time. Many music industry insiders say it's not a fleeting trend: huge, multi-day music festivals are the future of the U.S. concert business.

"Festivals are hot, and hopefully they get hotter," says Michele Scoleri, Bumbershoot's director of programming. "We've been doing this a very long time, and now we get to enjoy the ride."

"It's obviously a time when festivals have reached a critical mass," says Rick Farman, a partner in Superfly Productions, which co-produces both Bonnaroo and Vegoose.

Even industry players who aren't affiliated with the market agree: It's a race to grab up as many festivals as possible.

A balk in the park

San Diego promoter Rob Hagey started Street Scene in 1984 as a two-stage community event that featured roots acts like Los Lobos, The Neville Brothers, The Blasters, Robert Cray and X. The event doubled as a marketing campaign for downtown San Diego, which at the time was known more for muggings than for upscale clubbing.

Although Street Scene grew in size each year, the lineup remained diverse--jazz, blues, rock, Latin, reggae, rock, roots--until 2004.

"I know Rob was having trouble making money," says Chris Goldsmith, talent buyer at Solana Beach's Belly Up Tavern and a former agent who supplied bands to Street Scene. "He had to make some changes in the programming to make money. Maybe it could've evolved as this mix of roots music. But the reality is that San Diego ain't that hip."

That's why 2003 performers like Yonder Mountain String Band, Buckwheat Zydeco and Radio Mundial weren't invited back the following year. Instead, Hagey went with big-money, mainstream rock and hip-hop acts like P.O.D., Ludacris, Jack Johnson, Foo Fighters, Jimmy Eat World and The Killers. He also made the event all-ages for the first time since 1994.

From a business standpoint, it was a good move. Street Scene pulled in a record 105,000 people in two days, breaking its own record of 100,000, set back in 2001. Unfortunately, downtown San Diego was experiencing a similar explosion. As one insider explains, "The business owners used to welcome [Street Scene]. But once downtown was revitalized, it really hurt businesses. The Chamber [of Commerce] and the Gaslamp Association started to galvanize against the event."

Downtown San Diego, in essence, no longer needed Street Scene's brand of public relations. Conveniently, the area's development also meant there was no room for a festival of its size. Squeezed out of the Gaslamp, Street Scene moved to Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley for 2005 and 2006. While Hagey and his production company did an admirable job of transforming the venue--and the stadium's expansive parking lot made for easy stage-to-stage access--many fans grumbled, calling it "Parking Lot Scene."

Despite big-ticket headliners (Pixies and The White Stripes in '05, Tool and Kanye West in '06), sales took a nosedive. As one source close to the Street Scene camp said, "Qualcomm was not the answer. It had no sex appeal. I knew [Hagey was going to sell the event] before the last Street Scene."

It was true. Street Scene's indie days were over. But before he sold it, Hagey made one last attempt to find his 23-year-old project a home. On Dec. 7, 2006, he went before the Balboa Park Committee with a proposal to hold the event amid 1,200 acres of city-owned greenery.

Holding Street Scene in Balboa Park seemed to make sense. All but two of the nation's largest festivals are held either in city parks, on fairgrounds or on a godforsaken farm in the middle of nowhere (Bonnaroo). Bumbershoot is held in the Seattle Center, which, like Balboa Park, was built around the turn of the century to host a world's fair.

Hagey was roundly rejected. Reports in the Union-Tribune made it seem as if he were one instigative chuckle from being laughed out of the room. Committee member Vicki Granowitz was quoted as saying, "You couldn't pay the park enough to have this event."

When revisiting the topic last week, Granowitz--who has now become the chair of the committee--explained, "Did you ever see the map of what they're proposing? Oh, you've got to see it. They proposed taking the entire Sixth Avenue lawn and closing Laurel Street. The western edge of the event would be the middle of Sixth Avenue--all fenced in. The center of the city would be gridlocked."

When asked if there was consideration of Street Scene's role as part of the city's cultural identity, Granowitz replied, "It's a private enterprise, not a nonprofit. We have large events at the park, and most of those are either nonprofit or they somehow have been with us a long time and are part of our culture."

Granowitz pointed out that, unlike the Gaslamp, Balboa Park is surrounded by residential neighborhoods. Plus, she maintained, people who choose to live downtown are expected to tolerate a certain amount of noise. The community around Balboa Park, on the other hand, didn't sign up for "a rock concert in the middle of a residential area."

Granowitz doesn't come across like the fun-squashing conservative she seemed in the Union-Tribune article. Most of her reasons are logistical--noise, traffic and conflicts with other park events (outdoor concerts, plays, museum exhibitions). One of her points, though, is totally subjective: she believes the event doesn't "fit the character" of Balboa Park.

The Belly Up's Goldsmith offered a counterpoint: "They have 70 planes flying directly above them every hour at Balboa Park--I think the residents are used to a little bit of noise. If Rob would've been able to get Balboa Park, I don't think he would've sold [Street Scene]."

Regardless, Granowitz makes very clear that in its current form, Street Scene will not happen in Balboa Park. Not in 2007. Not ever.

After the park's rejection, Hagey was ready to sell. But who would buy it? The event had lost its namesake home (the "streets" of San Diego). Attendance had declined two years in a row. It seemed in the midst of a massive identity crisis, possibly on its last legs.

Despite the dwindling value of the brand, there were interested buyers. Viejas looked into the idea, but the numbers didn't add up. AEG Live also struck up talks with Hagey. Then, on April 9, it was announced that Rob Hagey Productions had partnered with L.A.-based Live Nation. Though the specifics of the deal have not been disclosed (Hagey didn't respond to CityBeat's requests for comment), it's believed that Live Nation purchased a large majority of Street Scene and that Hagey serves in a minor role as a consultant.

Goliath's immediate bruising

Live Nation, a spin-off of Clear Channel Communications, is the world's largest live-event company. In July 2006, it purchased House of Blues, thus gaining control of five prime San Diego venues: Coors Amphitheatre, Cox Arena, SDSU Open Air Theatre, 4th & B and, of course, HOB's downtown location.

Some viewed Live Nation's acquisition of Street Scene in doomsday terms--an out-of-town corporation taking control of an independently owned, local festival. Others saw added value--with Live Nation's massive buying clout, surely Radiohead and The Police and [enter dream band here] would be coming to Street Scene 2007, right?

In any case, Live Nation suffered immediate headaches. The first struggle was finding a location. Nick Masters, the company's Southern California president, explored countless options. Earlier this year, Masters told CityBeat that his ideal was the 60-acre San Diego Polo Field on the western edge of Rancho Santa Fe, a spot similar to Coachella's. But a Polo Club representative said this week that it's impossible--the community of Rancho Santa Fe mandates all new events on the premises be focused on "equestrian activities." Masters even considered golf courses but realized semi-trucks wouldn't be able to navigate the rolling landscape.

On April 10, Live Nation announced it had come to terms with the Del Mar Fairgrounds to hold the event.

This was news to folks at the fairgrounds.

"They actually rolled out the announcement before it was a topic for our board members, [who] found out about it online," says fairgrounds spokesperson Kina Paegert. "Discussions had begun, but I don't think [Live Nation] necessarily knew there was a board of directors who needed to sign off on it. There was a learning curve."

The fairgrounds' board of directors eventually approved the deal, but not until June 5--a lengthy process that some say interfered with Live Nation's ability to book talent.

And talent booking was by far the largest obstacle for Street Scene '07.

Having taken over in April, Live Nation's staff had only five months to identify, negotiate with and secure some of the biggest names in popular music. (Ideally, all acts would be booked in two-and-a-half months, in time for pre-sale tickets). In relative terms, Live Nation started looking for bands at the point when both Bonnaroo and Bumbershoot have a majority of their lineups locked in. Most bands had already scheduled summer tours.

In June, The White Stripes and Smashing Pumpkins--two viable headliners for Street Scene--announced they'd be playing in San Diego around the time Street Scene was scheduled. However, they'd be playing at Viejas-operated Embarcadero Marina. (The White Stripes have since canceled their tour, and the Pumpkins have moved to Live Nation-operated Open Air Theatre.)

On June 18, the initial lineup was announced. Headliners included The Killers, Panic! At the Disco, Air, Arctic Monkeys and Muse. Viewed in a vacuum, it was a fine bill. When compared with Street Scenes of recent years, it was not. And few would claim it's in the same class as Lollapalooza (Pearl Jam, Daft Punk, My Morning Jacket) or Austin City Limits (Bob Dylan, Björk, Wilco, Arcade Fire).

Masters admitted publicly that he hadn't gotten what he wanted. He told the Union-Tribune that attempts to land The Police and Coldplay were unsuccessful. Another industry source said an offer went out to U2, but no dice.

Not surprisingly, ticket sales were slow. Real slow. Two-day tickets and VIP packages went on sale June 23. Del Mar's Paegert says that only a total of 931 had sold by Aug. 3--the day Live Nation announced it was moving the event, again, to Coors Amphitheatre.

While fans were nonplussed by the move to Del Mar, they seemed truly offended by the downgrade to Coors. What was once a festival that twisted through the heart of San Diego's budding urbanity was now slated for an amphitheatre in Chula Vista--the same type of venue that most festival operators (including Bonnaroo's Farman) blame for bland live music experiences.

"Sure, I'd love to watch Spoon, Muse, Social D or the Supersuckers tear it up," says local musician Michael Rennie. "But is it worth four hours in traffic to cram into a cement semi-circle and watch abbreviated sets? Nah. I'd rather wait until their next solo tours."

However, the move was a necessity. First, a poorly attended event at the spacious fairgrounds would be a glaring failure; the more "intimate" Coors could make 10,000 people look like a decent gig. Second, Live Nation owns Coors Amphitheatre, which means it could save on production costs. The deposit the company forfeited when backing out of the fairgrounds was a small price in comparison to the savings.

Live Nation was essentially conceding that Street Scene 2007 would be a financial bust. Damage control was in effect.

The bigger question was--why bother at all? Why would Live Nation buy a sagging brand and suffer through a financial disaster in its first year? Why not just pull the plug?

The fight for the future

For years, summer has been considered the "festival season" in Europe and "amphitheatre season" in the United States. Live Nation was the first to corner the market in Europe with partner company Mean Fiddler, which is behind the massive Leeds and Reading festivals.

Meanwhile, AEG--the No. 2 live-event company in the U.S.--managed to get a leg up domestically, with stakes in Coachella, Jazz Fest and, as of last February, Bumbershoot. Other players, such as C3 Presents (Austin City Limits, Lollapalooza) and the partnership of Superfly and AC Entertainment (Bonnaroo, Vegoose), have seen similar success Stateside.

In light of the success--as well as the sharp decline of sales for amphitheatre shows--Live Nation CEO Michael Rapino has informed the press and its investors of his company's plan to move aggressively into the U.S. festival circuit.

In 2006, Live Nation began selling off venues in smaller markets. Earlier this year, it acquired a majority stake of Bamboozle, an annual multi-day festival in New York. In his presentation at the Credit Suisse Media and Telecom Week Conference last December, Rapino expressed a desire to monetize every aspect of the live-music experience, from concessions to ticket sales.

One way to do that, says the Belly Up's Goldsmith, is to locate "alternative venues" such as the Indio Polo Fields (Coachella) or Bonnaroo's Tennessee farm. "In some respects, the alternate venue was created as a way to get a grip on the concessions," he says. "There are all of these ancillary revenue sources, where if you control the venue, you can make a boatload."

It's rumored that plans are in the works to establish a major music festival in each of the top 25 markets in the United States. Whoever can reach a critical mass first will be able to strike exclusivity deals. In other words, they could tell an act like The White Stripes, "Look, we've got these 20 festivals, which could fill your entire summer schedule. We'll pay you a premium to only play ours."

If true, the race between Live Nation and AEG is on.

In July 2006, L.A.-based AEG announced it was opening a San Diego branch and possibly building a new, 6,000-seat venue somewhere in the city. It hired away all but one of Viejas Entertainment's staff, including president Steve Redfearn.

Knowing AEG had spoken with Hagey about Street Scene, Live Nation's investment makes a little more sense. Live Nation's valuation of the festival goes up if the purchase is viewed as a defensive move--whatever it takes to prevent AEG from gaining another dot on the rapidly expanding festival map.

If this theory is correct, the U.S. festival market is now a Monopoly game. AEG has Park Place (Coachella), North Carolina Avenue (Jazz Fest) and B&O Railroad (Bumbershoot). Live Nation just bought Kentucky Avenue (Street Scene) but has a ton of money in the bank and is looking for more.

It will come

So what will become of Street Scene?

Some predict Live Nation will kill the brand after this year and establish a new, differently named festival at the Del Mar Fairgrounds in 2008. Others say it'll keep the name and, with more time to book top talent, bring it back with the best lineup and festival atmosphere San Diego's ever seen.

It's impossible to say for sure, since Nick Masters declined to comment for this story. One thing seems certain--the gods of the industry have decided that festivals are the future. And San Diego will have its own.

The fairgrounds will likely host such a festival, whether it's Street Scene or something else created by Live Nation or AEG. With more than 241 acres, the space is massive. It has a minor history of concerts, from the grandstand shows during the San Diego County Fair to racing season's 4 O'Clock Fridays.

In 2005, the two-day Festival Del Mar brought more than 10,000 people to the fairgrounds to see the likes of Etta James, Jason Mraz, Taj Majal and The Blind Boys of Alabama. The Belly Up's Goldsmith served as artistic director for the event and cited Street Scene's abandonment of roots and world music as part of the inspiration. But when attendance declined the second year, Festival Del Mar wasn't brought back for 2007.

Sources say Festival Del Mar simply didn't have the budget for marquee acts that can draw people to a new concept at a relatively unproven venue. With the deep pockets of AEG and Live Nation, however, a festival of Coachella-like proportions is plausible.

"A lot of people are disenfranchised from the normal amphitheatre experience," says Superfly's Farman. "In general, I think people are looking for more enveloping experiences. Just to go see a show for two or three hours and then go home, how much do you actually break out of your normal life for that? You're still checking your e-mail, going home and watching CNN.

"A festival is a chance to break away from the normal hustle and bustle of life and really involve yourself in something," Farman says. "I think that's what's made the festival culture and business successful, and it's here to stay for a long time."

Cliffs Notes version please

scoop49er
09-19-2007, 06:36 AM
yeah i hear ya. :)

breakjaw
09-19-2007, 08:15 AM
If this theory is correct, the U.S. festival market is now a Monopoly game. AEG has Park Place (Coachella), North Carolina Avenue (Jazz Fest) and B&O Railroad (Bumbershoot). Live Nation just bought Kentucky Avenue (Street Scene) but has a ton of money in the bank and is looking for more.


Coachella is muthafuckin' Boardwalk,bitch.

Ardentbiscuit
09-19-2007, 08:26 AM
So what is Vegoose? Baltic?

Ardentbiscuit
09-19-2007, 08:29 AM
In case anyone needs a refresher...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_game

So where would the other festivals go??

Maybe they should make a music festival themed Monopoly game, they have every other theme.

anti-square
09-19-2007, 08:33 AM
Coachella is muthafuckin' Boardwalk,bitch.

ha! new sig...

suprefan
09-19-2007, 08:43 AM
Lolla is Illinois Ave, and Roo is Tennessee Ave.

GnarVee
09-19-2007, 10:53 AM
dont know if anyone had notice the INFECTED MUSHROOM add?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?


(to SUNDAY!!!!)

GnarVee
09-19-2007, 11:01 AM
dont know if anyone had notice the INFECTED MUSHROOM add?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?


(to SUNDAY!!!!)



I guess.....im the only one stoked about this?

GnarVee
09-19-2007, 11:09 AM
INFECTED MUSHROOM!!!!!

brokenDREAMS
09-19-2007, 11:12 AM
INFECTED MUSHROOM!!!!!

I'm stoked as well! I missed their set at coachella and was kinda bummed about it. Hopefully they don't conflict with some else I wish to see again.

rage patton
09-19-2007, 11:31 AM
INFECTED MUSHROOM!

I am so fuckin stoked right now. Holy shit... I am so excited! Wow.

They better npt conflict with Rage again! Hot damn. Ok. Thats it. I am happy with the line up. Ghostland Observatory, Infected Mushroom, Muse and Rage? That sounds like a fuckin awesome day.

However, The Hives would be an unbelievably awesome add. The fact they areent playing in Vegas on the 10th is intruiging...

Also, Atmosphere is pretty cool. Weird... no Of Montreal?

KenMixtape
09-19-2007, 11:40 AM
www.vegoose.com ... heh. looks like everything was moved to Friday and Saturday. I wonder how long it'll take before they notice.

xbnmx
09-19-2007, 11:45 AM
What in the fuck...

g0k1ngsg0
09-19-2007, 11:52 AM
who was it a few pages back that called out the infected mushroom conflicting with rage again? LOL

I can see it happening again.

BlueDevil50
09-19-2007, 12:11 PM
right on...still waitin for a modest mouse confirmation


and a that long shot of a yeah yeah yeahs addition

suprefan
09-19-2007, 12:21 PM
WHAT IN THE HELL!??!!?!?!!



Well that actualy helps me a little, but now I gotta tell my friend.


And why on earth have they not sent e mails out regarding this.

g0k1ngsg0
09-19-2007, 12:48 PM
I recevied an email from vegoose at around 12:30 today.

daftmonkey64
09-19-2007, 12:54 PM
www.vegoose.com ... heh. looks like everything was moved to Friday and Saturday. I wonder how long it'll take before they notice.


that had fucking better be a mistake. That would ruin all my plans.

suprefan
09-19-2007, 12:55 PM
I didnt get it, thats interesting.

betao
09-19-2007, 01:01 PM
infected mushroom? nice!! they put one hell of a show at V-fest, definitely a good high energy act. and i dont think they would be that mean to put them up against RATM again.

shakermaker113
09-19-2007, 01:04 PM
finally! we've been thrown some scraps.


who was it a few pages back that called out the infected mushroom conflicting with rage again? LOL

that was me! I'd laugh if that happened again. screw rage this time.

I'd not laugh if, in trying to avoid an infected mushroom/rage conflict, they created a infected mushroom/muse conflict.

PrettyRagdoll
09-19-2007, 01:05 PM
i thought since everyone in this thread is really into music and music festivals, i found a really good article on festival wars. hope u like it.. i found it really interesting..:)


Festival wars
Street Scene is part of the industry's newest turf battle
by Troy Johnson


That was a really good article, thanks for posting it.

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 01:07 PM
Where's Kraftdaft or Daftwerk or whatever his or her name is to gloat? And since he/she was right, where's Fatboy Slim? :)

The Friday/Saturday thing is pretty funny...their webmaster really just doesn't care at all, I think. Also, they posted the costume shop announcement ABOVE the artist announcement, so you don't even see it when you first go to that page.

suprefan
09-19-2007, 01:10 PM
I recevied an email from vegoose at around 12:30 today.

And what did it say?

g0k1ngsg0
09-19-2007, 01:14 PM
And what did it say?


- ARTIST ADDITIONS
- DOLLHOUSE SALON AND COSTUME SHOP HOSTED BY CITI CARDS
- PRIZE PACK #2
- TRAVEL PACKAGE REMINDER



We are pleased to announce the following additions to VEGOOSE at Sam Boyd Stadium & Star Nursery Field:

Atmosphere

Infected Mushroom

Tickets on-sale now. Click here.








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Also, instead of just telling people how fabulous you looked in your costume and new hairdo, you can take a picture right there on the spot. Citi Cards invites everyone to come by and get done up, take a photo, check out their services, and pick up some cool free stuff.




Here's another chance to win a ton of great Vegoose prizes including tickets to the festival, an Xbox 360, and music from M.I.A., Ghostface Killah, Thievery Corporation, Lupe Fiasco, UNKLE and Pharoahe Monch! Look out for another prize pack coming soon.

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suprefan
09-19-2007, 01:34 PM
So nothing regarding ''moving'' the dates to Friday and Saturday then. Weird...

gazercmh
09-19-2007, 01:37 PM
the vegoose home page says friday and saturday but if you click to see the lineup it says saturday and sunday.

pinguinotonto
09-19-2007, 01:42 PM
they better not have moved.

leo01g
09-19-2007, 01:43 PM
That would totally fuck me over because thats the week i have midterms and i already bought my ticket!

suprefan
09-19-2007, 01:47 PM
the vegoose home page says friday and saturday but if you click to see the lineup it says saturday and sunday.

Right, I saw that. But what is correct? How would that happen on the next update? I mean the page got some news but how do you go and change the dates on purpose like that? So does one of the anti vegoose people want to play a joke on us?

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 01:48 PM
EVER HEARD OF A TPYO?

suprefan
09-19-2007, 01:49 PM
THAT BADLY?!?!?!??!?!?!?

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 02:01 PM
Point taken. But I've done it a few times myself in this thread- refered to Saturday as Friday.

Of course, I wasn't making those mistakes on the front page of my own website.

I think it's just because they keep saying the festival is "Friday-Sunday", counting the night shows.

My point...considering how sloppily that website has been run, what's more likely- that they moved the whole thing up a day (to a weekday!) or that some underpaid stoner made a mistake?

g0k1ngsg0
09-19-2007, 02:03 PM
When I say "poor source", I'm talking about a stoner on the Vegoose board.



or that some underpaid stoner made a mistake?

now I really think you have something against stoners ;)

j/k

shakermaker113
09-19-2007, 02:13 PM
eh... someone wasn't paying attention. maybe they didn't sleep much last night. these things happen.

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 02:16 PM
now I really think you have something against stoners ;)

I only call them stoners if they are fuck-ups or irresponsible. Or if they are only obsessed with pot, movies about pot, music about pot, ect. I have no time or respect for anyone that reads High Times or makes 4:20 jokes.

I know plenty of people who smoke a lot of pot, but they also have lives, good jobs, ect.

suprefan
09-19-2007, 02:25 PM
Unless they get a million e mails saying why it changed they wont notice.

Ardentbiscuit
09-19-2007, 02:42 PM
Oh man Infected Mushroom is going to be amazing. They tore it up at Vanguard a couple of weeks ago. First time I have ever seen an artist play live there.

It's going to be amazing at Vegoose.

Just waiting for Modest Mouse, Of Montreal, Kraftwerk..and some surprises out of left field!

Vegoose don't fail me now!

Sushov23
09-19-2007, 03:43 PM
It is still on SAT and SUN right?

suprefan
09-19-2007, 03:47 PM
We dont know....

KenMixtape
09-19-2007, 03:49 PM
You'd have to be as simple as someone thinking Daft Punk was playing under the Luxor to believe they'd change the dates.

suprefan
09-19-2007, 03:50 PM
Well they are just messing with everyone and changing the main page to what it is.

amyzzz
09-19-2007, 03:57 PM
Oh man Infected Mushroom is going to be amazing. They tore it up at Vanguard a couple of weeks ago. First time I have ever seen an artist play live there.

It's going to be amazing at Vegoose.

Oh shit. What? What? Infected Mushroom?

g0k1ngsg0
09-19-2007, 04:09 PM
I only call them stoners if they are fuck-ups or irresponsible. Or if they are only obsessed with pot, movies about pot, music about pot, ect. I have no time or respect for anyone that reads High Times or makes 4:20 jokes.

I know plenty of people who smoke a lot of pot, but they also have lives, good jobs, ect.

"Hey man, is that freedom rock?"
"yea, man"
"well turn it up man!"

;D

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 04:15 PM
We dont know....

I'm willing to go out on a crazy limb and say "I know".

Chances that a half-assed webmaster got his days mixed up on ONE graphic when asked to make a change to it, leaving every other page correct: 999,999,999 in a Billion

Odds that the promoters altered 26 tour schedules on a days notice, decided that a weekday would be better than a weekend, and figured the best way to announce they were upheaving 25,000 people's travel plans was to quietly post it on their website in ONE place: 1 in a billion

J****-M*****-F******-Tap-Dancing_C****!

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 04:23 PM
"Hey man, is that freedom rock?"
"yea, man"
"well turn it up man!"

Awesome! :rotfl

That always bugged me...If I saw an old stereotypical hippie listening to Creedence, I'm going to assume he's listening TO A FRICKIN' CREEDENCE RECORD! Not some K-Tel collection he ordered from TV.

Anyone remember a college comedy show called "Null & Void"? It was on UTV, or NCTV. Anyway, they had a video clip that looked exactly like that commercial.

"Hey man, is that Freedom Rock?"

(looks at him like he's an idiot) "No."

(fade to black)

KenMixtape
09-19-2007, 04:38 PM
5VxyTvo7PVM

"Hey man, is that freedom rock?"
"yea, man"
"well turn it up man!"

;D

g0k1ngsg0
09-19-2007, 04:45 PM
wow, it's been a long time since I've seen that...

nerdiest. hippies. ever.

Ardentbiscuit
09-19-2007, 04:55 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9_Dk_F98cU

As long as M.I.A. plays this. I'm happy!

Oh man I love her!

pinguinotonto
09-19-2007, 04:57 PM
ok they fixed it. good. mos definitly sat and sun.

ficklecycle
09-19-2007, 04:59 PM
ANYTHING NEW IN THIS THREAD?

suprefan
09-19-2007, 05:00 PM
ANYTHING NEW IN THIS THREAD?

Atmosphere and Infected Mushroom have been added, happy?

ficklecycle
09-19-2007, 05:01 PM
That's it? Meep.

suprefan
09-19-2007, 05:04 PM
Does it matter? You are only going for 1 act, so dont worry.

Somewhat Damaged
09-19-2007, 05:05 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9_Dk_F98cU

As long as M.I.A. plays this. I'm happy!

Oh man I love her!

Man, what a great video! Ditto, Ardentbiscuit, if I hear this song, I'll be a happy man at Vegoose.

Is that your favorite M.I.A. song? "Bucky Done Gone" and "10 Dolla" are terrific but I really think "Jimmy" takes the cake, even if the rest of Kala isn't quite as good as Arular.

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 05:23 PM
ok they fixed it. good. mos definitly sat and sun.

Mos Def Saturday AND Sunday! Sweet!

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 05:29 PM
5VxyTvo7PVM

I love that it's like 6 classic rock songs, and 30 one-hit-wonder 70's lite-pop songs. FAR OUT!

Also, what a beautiful time of transition that you could get it on vinyl, cassette, OR CD. Of course, I remember when you could get vinyl, cassette, 8-track, or reel-to-reel tape from Columbia House.

Ardentbiscuit
09-19-2007, 05:31 PM
Cool, I hope Mos Def performs scenes with Jack Black from his new movie! :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2TtaoEGqNDE

suprefan
09-19-2007, 05:42 PM
Mos Def Saturday AND Sunday! Sweet!

Dont we wish

leo01g
09-19-2007, 06:48 PM
Tool on Sunday
Dont we wish

ficklecycle
09-19-2007, 06:55 PM
Does it matter? You are only going for 1 act, so dont worry.

Says who?

Boourns
09-19-2007, 07:02 PM
So I wonder why after weeks of speculation they post additions, but just Atmosphere and Infected Mushroom. Guess Of Montreal, Kraftwerk, Modest Marr, Jesus, etc aren't playing after all.

M Sparks
09-19-2007, 07:09 PM
So I wonder why after weeks of speculation they post additions, but just Atmosphere and Infected Mushroom. Guess Of Montreal, Kraftwerk, Modest Marr, Jesus, etc aren't playing after all.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1194/528194463_d301f3adb9_m.jpg

PrettyRagdoll
09-19-2007, 08:27 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9_Dk_F98cU

As long as M.I.A. plays this. I'm happy!

Oh man I love her!

Seriously! I mean I love Daft Punk and everyone else, but the deciding factor was simply that I wanted to see M.I.A again

rage patton
09-19-2007, 09:06 PM
I fucking hate MIA...

But yes... I also found it weird that Of Montreal werent part of these additions. Oh well. Im still REALLY pulling for the Hives!


Oh shit. What? What? Infected Mushroom?

And yes Amy. Infected Mushroom were added to Sunday.

bballarl
09-19-2007, 09:13 PM
Tour de France.

Boourns
09-19-2007, 09:20 PM
To hell with the Hives, bring on Of Montreal and METRIC

rage patton
09-19-2007, 09:23 PM
They would be cool. But I would take The Hives and The Polyphic Spree over both of them.

scoop49er
09-19-2007, 09:28 PM
well im happy about the 2 additions. infected i missed at coachella so hopefully ill get a shot to see them this time. also atmosphere, i downloaded a couple of thier songs and im digging it... so we are now at 27 bands.. is this enough for everyone. me personally, 5 more and ill stop bugging. but the lineup at this point is very strong...

scoop49er
09-19-2007, 09:32 PM
To hell with the Hives, bring on Of Montreal and METRIC

boourns, im gonna see metric as they are part of the download festival. how good r they? any song suggestions?

anyone else going to the download festival in mtv view 10/6?

Boourns
09-19-2007, 10:09 PM
boourns, im gonna see metric as they are part of the download festival. how good r they? any song suggestions?

anyone else going to the download festival in mtv view 10/6?

Oh yes, they are fucking awesome live. Song suggestions?
Poster of a Girl
Dead Disco
Combat Baby
Empty
Monster Hospital
Grow Up & Blow Away

gmoneyak
09-19-2007, 10:42 PM
Also:
Wet Blanket
The Twist


Yeah... As someone who has never seen Metric live as well, I'd say bring them to Vegoose!!

I'd also like to see an Of Montreal redo after Coachella's sound issues..

crazzz2007
09-19-2007, 10:49 PM
it's hilarious how on the lineup page, they just expanded the spacing between the sunday artists to make the list seem as long as the saturday lineup.

shakermaker113
09-19-2007, 10:51 PM
anyone else going to the download festival in mtv view 10/6?

eh... I'd go if I knew brmc and metric are going to be on the second stage, but I have a feeling at least one of the two will be on the main stage. boo to that.

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 05:26 AM
it's hilarious how on the lineup page, they just expanded the spacing between the sunday artists to make the list seem as long as the saturday lineup.

It's actually l-o-n-g-e-r. Which is stupid, because Sunday is only 3 acts shorter, yet they have three acts that require 2 lines, and Saturday has none.

scoop49er
09-20-2007, 06:03 AM
eh... I'd go if I knew brmc and metric are going to be on the second stage, but I have a feeling at least one of the two will be on the main stage. boo to that.

this is the first time im going to this festival and i dont think they are gonna have a second stage this year. i know they have before:

right now they have 8 bands: the cure, afi, kings of leon, brmc, she wants revenge, the black angels, metric, and 65 days of static. and it starts at 2pm so i think thats gonna be it...

scoop49er
09-20-2007, 06:05 AM
It's actually l-o-n-g-e-r. Which is stupid, because Sunday is only 3 acts shorter, yet they have three acts that require 2 lines, and Saturday has none.


well if you count spearhead, the family band, and the rythym roots all stars, that makes 15! :)

canexplain
09-20-2007, 06:23 AM
morning scoop ... only about a month away :) cr****

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 06:29 AM
well if you count spearhead, the family band, and the rythym roots all stars, that makes 15! :)

That's what I was getting at, but didn't state very well.

The lists should be about the same length anyway, because of the long names on Sunday. You shouldn't have to space it out to make it longer.

In the case of that day split poster, it actually IS longer, but that because not everything is typed on individual lines.

Sorry, I just spot things like this, laying out text and graphics is part of my job. And DAMN is all their stuff sloppy.

canexplain
09-20-2007, 06:40 AM
That's what I was getting at, but didn't state very well.

The lists should be about the same length anyway, because of the long names on Sunday. You shouldn't have to space it out to make it longer.

In the case of that day split poster, it actually IS longer, but that because not everything is typed on individual lines.

Sorry, I just spot things like this, laying out text and graphics is part of my job. And DAMN is all their stuff sloppy.

since you are a "pro" sometime if you get a chance, go to the bonnaroo board and see if you feel the same ... both superfly of course .. just wondering what you think .. cr****

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 07:00 AM
since you are a "pro" sometime if you get a chance, go to the bonnaroo board and see if you feel the same ... both superfly of course .. just wondering what you think .. cr****

Bonnaroo board, or bonnaroo website?

I'm not a pro web designer. I do TV commercials (sorry, everyone.) That usually involves fitting a lot of graphic elements into a small space that people will only see for a few seconds...so you have to be very nit-picky. I'm just saying that, as a "graphic designer" of sorts, I would never have designed posters and web graphics that look so lopsided. But I don't do print ads or websites, so I can't speak as an expert.

I think the Bonnaroo website is better than the Vegoose website. Vegoose is trying too hard to be "fancy", yet it comes across less professional than Bonnaroo. And that font is just awful. They have a great logo, but otherwise their identifiers are awful.

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 07:02 AM
By the way, if you were asking me about colors for the board...I think the Inforoo page looks pretty good. Attractive and easy to read. But the background picture is stupid. You've got them topped in that respect.

rage patton
09-20-2007, 07:06 AM
it's hilarious how on the lineup page, they just expanded the spacing between the sunday artists to make the list seem as long as the saturday lineup.

Thats exactly what I though to. In fact if you look at it... its spaced so it looks like Saunday has more artists.

canexplain
09-20-2007, 07:07 AM
By the way, if you were asking me about colors for the board...I think the Inforoo page looks pretty good. Attractive and easy to read. But the background picture is stupid. You've got them topped in that respect.

no i was talking about the official bonnaroo site ... i dont know if the same company does them both, but you would guess probably yes ... on the inforoo board ill change the pic, its about time .. it was a distorted pic of the robots ... cr****

canexplain
09-20-2007, 07:10 AM
there i put the ferris wheel back up till i can be more creative lol ... cr****

scoop49er
09-20-2007, 07:12 AM
well if you count spearhead, the family band, and the rythym roots all stars, that makes 15! :)

morning everyone. yeah saying it makes 15 is just a silly morning joke. :) it would be interesting if they add to sunday how they will space it then... personnally i think the website is ok. but yeah mistakes have been made but all festival sites are off a little..

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 07:14 AM
They are NOT the same, actually.

Vegoose is done by two different companies, one does the graphics, the other codes it.

Bonnaroo is a different company all together.

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 07:14 AM
Ron, all your pics are great. It's just the text on top of them that's the problem. :)

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 07:18 AM
its spaced so it looks like Saunday has more artists.

To me, the spacing is so poor, it just draws attention to the fact that Sunday has fewer acts.

Ardentbiscuit
09-20-2007, 07:38 AM
The Vegoose site has nifty graphics. I like the overall theme of the graphics. I just don't like the way it was designed. It uses a lot of bandwidth for not a lot of content.

canexplain
09-20-2007, 07:43 AM
The Vegoose site has nifty graphics. I like the overall theme of the graphics. I just don't like the way it was designed. It uses a lot of bandwidth for not a lot of content.

i kind of thought that too .... i go to the wakarusa fest site, and it takes so long to load, i shy away from there unless in need info about the site ... cr**** ya, sparks, that damn top line has given me problems from the start ...

canexplain
09-20-2007, 07:59 AM
MSparks, hey sometime in the future, we should chat a bit outside the board …. The vegoose info site is just a proboard that I can buy for a couple of hundred at the most I think … and I am thinking about it just because a lot of the front end work is done … but if you wanted to help for NEXT year, maybe we can get that board to be the “unofficial vegoose” site … I don’t think we can make any money from click thrus or however they make money, but my gf makes vintage style clothes, patches, etc so I think we would post a “store thread” and maybe you might have some store stuff to advertise … it wont cost you anything cept maybe a little time and brain power .. like I said, it is too late this year, but hey, if they don’t cancel the fest, it’s a thought … cr****

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 08:03 AM
I know what Ardent's saying about the graphics. I'm really talking about the text. But on a Flash site like that, it's ALL graphics. They use an awful font, and lay out their text poorly. The monsters I like.

Well, I gotta finish one of those damn TV sports before I leave to see Muse tonight! See you guys later.

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 08:13 AM
Ron...I'll send you my email in a PM...like I said I'm not a web guy. But it might be easier to just put up a "phpbb" board. They look pretty dull, but professional, and the software is free. I can host it on my server...we can even link it to "infogoose.com" since they aren't using it. It costs me, like $12 a year to do that, as long as the bandwidth useage doesn't get out of control.

I think having an actual web address that people can remember might draw more people than being able to put pictures in the background.

amyzzz
09-20-2007, 09:26 AM
The Vegoose site has nifty graphics. I like the overall theme of the graphics. I just don't like the way it was designed. It uses a lot of bandwidth for not a lot of content.
The Vegoose website makes my computer run really hard, so I can't look at it for too long without my computer moaning.

M Sparks
09-20-2007, 09:38 AM
I said I was gone for the day, but this just in...

Crystal Method, DJ Set, Friday, Oct 26th.

Vegas Devils Night (http://groups.myspace.com/LasVegasRAVEandNIGHTLIFE)

Tickets (http://groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=32758&PGname=AWOL+PRODUCTION)

shakermaker113
09-20-2007, 09:46 AM
this is the first time im going to this festival and i dont think they are gonna have a second stage this year. i know they have before:

right now they have 8 bands: the cure, afi, kings of leon, brmc, she wants revenge, the black angels, metric, and 65 days of static. and it starts at 2pm so i think thats gonna be it...

9 bands... some band called Vau de Vire Society got added along the way.

I think that's too much for one stage. besides, they only had 10 bands last year: beck, yeah yeah yeahs, muse, the shins, tv on the radio, rogue wave, coheed & cambria, kinky, the like, sean hayes.

but if you're right and it's all on the main stage, then I won't even bother.

Bud Luster
09-20-2007, 10:09 AM
I said I was gone for the day, but this just in...

Crystal Method, DJ Set, Friday, Oct 26th.

Vegas Devils Night (http://groups.myspace.com/LasVegasRAVEandNIGHTLIFE)

Tickets (http://groovetickets.com/ordersystem/Groove/eventviewqb.asp?AffilID=93&EventsID=32758&PGname=AWOL+PRODUCTION)

Whoa, looks like they have much more going on than there than Just Crystal Method ~> this party actually looks good:

Crystal Method, Uberzone, AK1200, Evol Intent, Btraits W/ MCkay, + a bunch of LA locals (jayvon, MC XYZ, Machete)

Nice!

suprefan
09-20-2007, 10:36 AM
Ok, so Crystal Method Satuday possibly? That would be too much electro in one day, it takes away from DP. So I would put em on Sunday to add some more depth. And it sucks they are doing like a dj tour mostly right now. I want LIVE.

Ardentbiscuit
09-20-2007, 10:45 AM
I like Crystal Method better live too but the DJ set is fine.

I saw them recently DJ at MOCA, pretty interesting...

rage patton
09-20-2007, 01:32 PM
Boo! 21+!!!

I highly doubt the Crystal Method will be added. The only way I can see that happening, is IF they have a dance area on Sunday.

Ardentbiscuit
09-20-2007, 01:34 PM
Well the person did post that besides this dance area they would add Infected Mushroom and Fat Boy Slim.

At least part of it came true...

So who knows...

rage patton
09-20-2007, 01:52 PM
Time for set times discussions again!

Here is a hypothetical Sunday Set...

Outside 1:
ALO: 1-2:30
Robert Randolf: 3-4:30
Umphrees McGee: 5:15-7:15
Moe: 8-10:30

Oustide 2:
Ghostland Observatory: 12:30-1:30
UNKLE: 2:00-3:15
Infected Mushroom: 4-5:30
Muse: 6:30-8(:30)

Stadium:
Pharoahe Monch: 1:30-2:45
Ghostface Killah: 3:30-5
Micheal Franti: 5:45-7:45
Rage Against The Machine: 9-10:30(11?)

That is a schedule that would work quite well for me. And it seems possible. Im sure there will be a couple more Sunday additions... but this is hypothetical based on who is DEFINATELY going to be there. And yes, I do realize I only used 3 stages. Unless there is a good 4-5 more additions to Sunday, I cant see how they would need a fourth stage.

xbnmx
09-20-2007, 02:02 PM
A point in your life will come when you cry at the fact that you spent so much of your time masturbating to music festivals.

rage patton
09-20-2007, 02:11 PM
A point in your life will come when you cry at the fact that you spent so much of your time masturbating to music festivals.

Im inbetween classes right now. Fuck off.

Vance_Vegoose
09-20-2007, 03:39 PM
Boo! 21+!!!

I highly doubt the Crystal Method will be added. The only way I can see that happening, is IF they have a dance area on Sunday.

you are just now finding out that the entire city is for adults?

for reals?

suprefan
09-20-2007, 04:09 PM
He is canadian ya know. You can legally drink in B.C. at the tender age of 19.

rage patton
09-20-2007, 07:04 PM
He is canadian ya know. You can legally drink in B.C. at the tender age of 19.

I turn 19 in a couple days too! Wooo! Its funny, the reason I am excited to turn 19, has absolutely nothing to do with being able to drink. I can now spend even more money by going to all those 19+ shows I was never able to go to! Yeah! My first of which will be Justice Oct 13!

Oh, and by the way, in Alberta and Quebec the drinking age is 18.

But seriously... what do people think of these set times?


Time for set times discussions again!

Here is a hypothetical Sunday Set...

Outside 1:
ALO: 1-2:30
Robert Randolf: 3-4:30
Umphrees McGee: 5:15-7:15
Moe: 8-10:30

Oustide 2:
Ghostland Observatory: 12:30-1:30
UNKLE: 2:00-3:15
Infected Mushroom: 4-5:30
Muse: 6:30-8(:30)

Stadium:
Pharoahe Monch: 1:30-2:45
Ghostface Killah: 3:30-5
Micheal Franti: 5:45-7:45
Rage Against The Machine: 9-10:30(11?)

That is a schedule that would work quite well for me. And it seems possible. Im sure there will be a couple more Sunday additions... but this is hypothetical based on who is DEFINATELY going to be there. And yes, I do realize I only used 3 stages. Unless there is a good 4-5 more additions to Sunday, I cant see how they would need a fourth stage.

Boourns
09-20-2007, 07:40 PM
I'm only interested in Saturday set times.

scoop49er
09-20-2007, 08:29 PM
I turn 19 in a couple days too! Wooo! Its funny, the reason I am excited to turn 19, has absolutely nothing to do with being able to drink. I can now spend even more money by going to all those 19+ shows I was never able to go to! Yeah! My first of which will be Justice Oct 13!

Oh, and by the way, in Alberta and Quebec the drinking age is 18.

But seriously... what do people think of these set times?

good job. although i think we will see 3 more additions to sunday only and then they will go to 3 stages 5 bands per stage... just a thought...

rage patton
09-20-2007, 08:39 PM
But Saturday will definately use 4 stages. Why eliminate one entire stage for Sunday?

leo01g
09-20-2007, 08:42 PM
i like the set times you put up but i think it would kick ass if muse and rage were back to back. Muse then Rage would be perfect that way i wouldnt have to haul my ass all from the muse show to the rage performance.

rage patton
09-20-2007, 08:47 PM
I know, I was thinking that too. But I didnt know who to switch around. I could have just switched Micheal Franti and Muse... but that would create a conflict with Umphrees McGree, and all the jam band people would have been HELLA pissed off. They would pretty much be just as pissed as we would be if they put Muse and Rage on at the same time. Also, Micheal Franti after Infected Mushroom really makes no sense at all.

leo01g
09-20-2007, 09:05 PM
haha yeah i guess. Ill be pissed if either muse, rage or infected mushrooms conflict. I really like the saturday line up, but sunday has muse and rage and ill be pissed if they conflict.

gmoneyak
09-20-2007, 09:41 PM
A point in your life will come when you cry at the fact that you spent so much of your time masturbating to music festivals.


Muahahaha...

Ardentbiscuit
09-21-2007, 05:45 AM
I can only hope they add 10 plus bands to Vegoose but I don't think that will happen. The chances of them adding 2 or more bands every week until the festival seems highly unlikely.

Or I can hope that dance tent comes true because then at least they could spread the other bands over 3 stages/tents. That would help.

With about 3 bands per stage per day at this point. I think there is going to be a lot of waiting around.

scoop49er
09-21-2007, 06:04 AM
lets hope that if they do spread it out, it will be very minimal..

i think we will get like 3 more then all done..

i did look at the echo project lineup and for al the hippies out there, that lineup is way more suited for them. but i think this lineup is very relevant to whats going on in music. you got a legends in the stooges and ratm, hard rock in qotsa, and mastodon,electronica masters in daft punk, some old hip hop(cypress, public) with new hip hop(pharoahe), british groups(muse), with extreme weird coolness(gogol bordello)

its all good :)

Ardentbiscuit
09-21-2007, 06:22 AM
Yeah the Echo Project is more of what they are looking for than Vegoose but there are some artists playing Echo I wish were at Vegoose like The Egg and MSTRKRFT...but you can't have it all. Vegoose is cool the way it is and I'm glad about Infected Mushroom being added.

So I was on another blog and just read the crazy crack smoking rumor of the week. Someone posted that they were going to add Bruce Springsteen and the E Street band to Vegoose sunday. I find this highly unlikely...although if you look at his schedule it would work and they did just move his LA date on the 28th to the 29th but this just seems crazy to me....

Here's the schedule newly updated from Pollstar.

Mon 09/24/07 Asbury Park, NJ Convention Hall

Tue 09/25/07 Asbury Park, NJ Convention Hall

Tue 10/02/07 Hartford, CT Hartford Civic Center Coliseum

Fri 10/05/07 Philadelphia, PA The Wachovia Center

Sat 10/06/07 Philadelphia, PA The Wachovia Center

Tue 10/09/07 East Rutherford, NJ Continental Airlines Arena

Wed 10/10/07 East Rutherford, NJ Continental Airlines Arena

Sun 10/14/07 Ottawa, ON Scotiabank Place

Mon 10/15/07 Toronto, ON Air Canada Centre

Wed 10/17/07 New York, NY Madison Square Garden Arena

Thu 10/18/07 New York, NY Madison Square Garden Arena

Sun 10/21/07 Chicago, IL United Center

Mon 10/22/07 Chicago, IL United Center

Fri 10/26/07 Oakland, CA Oracle Arena

Mon 10/29/07 Los Angeles, CA Los Angeles Mem. Sports Arena

Fri 11/02/07 Saint Paul, MN Xcel Energy Center

Sun 11/04/07 Cleveland, OH Quicken Loans Arena

Mon 11/05/07 Auburn Hills, MI The Palace Of Auburn Hills

Sun 11/11/07 Washington, DC Verizon Center

Wed 11/14/07 Pittsburgh, PA Mellon Arena

Thu 11/15/07 Albany, NY Times Union Center

Sun 11/18/07 Boston, MA TD Banknorth Garden

Mon 11/19/07 Boston, MA TD Banknorth Garden

Sun 11/25/07 Madrid, SPA Palacio de Deportes

Mon 11/26/07 Bilbao, SPA Bilbao Exhibition Centre

Wed 11/28/07 Milan, ITA DatchForum

Fri 11/30/07 Arnhem, NET Gelredome

Sun 12/02/07 Mannheim, GER SAP Arena

Tue 12/04/07 Oslo, NOR Oslo Spektrum Arena ANS

Sat 12/08/07 Copenhagen, DEN Forum

Mon 12/10/07 Stockholm, SWE Stockholm Globe Arena

Wed 12/12/07 Antwerp, BEL Sportpaleis Antwerpen

Thu 12/13/07 Cologne, GER Cologne Arena

Sat 12/15/07 Belfast, UK Odyssey Arena

Mon 12/17/07 Paris, FRA Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy

Wed 12/19/07 London, UK O2 Arena

canexplain
09-21-2007, 06:37 AM
lets hope that if they do spread it out, it will be very minimal..

i think we will get like 3 more then all done..

i did look at the echo project lineup and for al the hippies out there, that lineup is way more suited for them. but i think this lineup is very relevant to whats going on in music. you got a legends in the stooges and ratm, hard rock in qotsa, and mastodon,electronica masters in daft punk, some old hip hop(cypress, public) with new hip hop(pharoahe), british groups(muse), with extreme weird coolness(gogol bordello)

its all good :)

wow positive vibes about vegoose instead of complaining ... that is refreshing for a friday morning .. canx**

brando4n82
09-21-2007, 07:17 AM
I couldnt find this info on the website. i was wondering if this thing starts at Noon both days or if it starts later. any ideas?

M Sparks
09-21-2007, 07:27 AM
It says "To be decided" but I'm guessing around noon.

In 2005, they started the 3 main stages at 12:00, 12:30, and 1:00.

In 2006, they had the 2 "overlap" stages where one was always silent while the other was on. That started at 11:30 one day, and 12:20 the next. The main stage started at 1:15 each day.

There's only 5 less acts right now than there were last year. Even if we don't get any more of these big rumors, they'll add 5 or more unknowns last minute if it's anything like the last two years.

Ardentbiscuit
09-21-2007, 07:50 AM
I agree it's probably going to be unknowns and maybe some kind of performance art group.

They counted Yard Dogs Road show as an artist last year even though I didn't.

The first year they counted Blue Man Group as a performer even though they only made an appearance during Dave Matthews.

M Sparks
09-21-2007, 08:10 AM
The first year they counted Blue Man Group as a performer even though they only made an appearance during Dave Matthews.

They didn't do their touring show? That sucks.

rage patton
09-21-2007, 08:14 AM
wow positive vibes about vegoose instead of complaining ... that is refreshing for a friday morning .. canx**

Agreed Ron!

Also, that would be incredibly weird if they added Bruce Springsteen...

betao
09-21-2007, 08:16 AM
my parents tried to get tickets for that bruce springsteen show in DC this morning, tickets went on sale at 10 and by 10:05, they couldnt get them, sold out :-/