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downingthief
01-24-2011, 12:09 PM
Babies like mac n' cheese.

amyzzz
01-24-2011, 12:13 PM
I don't think his baby is old enough for mac n cheese.

downingthief
01-24-2011, 12:17 PM
Just piss on my parade, Amy. :p

TomAz
01-24-2011, 12:19 PM
get a room you two.

downingthief
01-24-2011, 12:20 PM
Only if you are there, big boy.

westcoastpirate
01-24-2011, 12:57 PM
Come down. Bring the baby.

What time? I'm not guaranteeing anything but this is a possibility.

captncrzy
01-24-2011, 01:17 PM
Um....I dunno. I can leave work whenever and get down there. 4:30? 5?

amyzzz
01-24-2011, 01:41 PM
Just piss on my parade, Amy. :p
Let's not go there.

chairmenmeow47
01-24-2011, 02:04 PM
i can be there around 6, depending on where this place is and if twilight comes or not.

the fact that "punch drunk at a wedding" just came on is also perfect for my mood, so sorry if i'm coming across short. stressed.

TomAz
01-24-2011, 02:05 PM
are you a vampire?

I.F.A.
01-24-2011, 02:06 PM
Ivy it's at 7th st. between Thomas and McDowell.

I can be there at 7. I have a yoga class that gets out then, and the studio is quite conveniently located in the same parking lot as The Main Ingredient.

Mr. Dylanja
01-24-2011, 02:07 PM
I accept your straightedged apology, Ivyleague.

chairmenmeow47
01-24-2011, 02:09 PM
are you a vampire?

no, but my boyfriend apparently looks like one.

thanks amy. 7th ave and thomas may mean a 6:30-7 arrival time. we'll see how the corn goes.

dylan, dylan, dylan, you better :p

M Sparks
01-24-2011, 05:28 PM
Ivy it's at 7th st. between Thomas and McDowell.

I can be there at 7. I have a yoga class that gets out then, and the studio is quite conveniently located in the same parking lot as The Main Ingredient.

That IS convenient.

A little TOO convenient if you ask me.

I.F.A.
01-25-2011, 08:05 AM
Would you like me to drive around the block a few times before walking over?

amyzzz
01-25-2011, 09:07 AM
I get off at 6, so I can be there 6:15. It's right by my work!

captncrzy
01-25-2011, 09:13 AM
I still think I'll be there around 5. Mark-join me early?

M Sparks
01-25-2011, 09:32 AM
Sure...although, as usual, I will probably be late. Well, late for being early, early for being ontime.

captncrzy
01-25-2011, 09:53 AM
Just don't take the light rail. It always seems to cause you vapors.

Mr. Dylanja
01-25-2011, 10:03 AM
zomebody call me if anyone startzzz drinking!

Mr. Dylanja
01-25-2011, 10:07 AM
amyzzz is my shaman

Mr. Dylanja
01-25-2011, 12:48 PM
...moving right along, has anybody seen The King's Speech?

Alligator Bogaloo
01-26-2011, 06:39 AM
Nope... go see Somewhere or True Grit... again.

downingthief
01-26-2011, 07:13 AM
I still need to see True Grit.

chairmenmeow47
01-26-2011, 07:22 AM
i went to see casino jack instead of the king's speech this past weekend. i was going to see one of the two, but kevin spacey won out for me.

Alligator Bogaloo
01-26-2011, 02:57 PM
Hey Tom,

I picked up the first two Big Audio Dynamite albums. I'm hooked! I'm really looking forward to their set this year.

I hope everyone purchased their tickets. Next year is going to be even more insane...

sddoctor
01-26-2011, 04:58 PM
I snuck in my ticket order this morning, so glad I got a pair of tickets for me and my girlfriend.

Can't say the same for my friends though.

I'm still looking for a car camping or tent camping pass, if any fellow phoenicians are selling. I've been to every coachella since 2002, and have really enjoyed the camping experience these last few years.

Mr. Dylanja
01-27-2011, 12:27 PM
Waste Management

Click the below web link and you can get free tickets for each day, all you need to do is guess which golfer will be closest to the 16th pin each day and they will send you an email with a voucher for a free ticket(one for each day so long as you guess 4 times). Send this to your friends and family than they can join the fun....for free!

http://wastemanagementphoenixopen.com/closest-to-the-pin-challenge/

westcoastpirate
01-27-2011, 01:41 PM
Anyone going to this? I'll be there with my buddy:

http://www.azbrewguild.com/strongbeer2011.php

http://www.showclix.com/event/arizonastrongbeerfestival

M Sparks
01-27-2011, 09:22 PM
So, who's in for The Main Ingredient? Should be there by 5:30 depending on traffic, maybe sooner.

chairmenmeow47
01-28-2011, 05:48 AM
i'll be there. maybe earlier than expected, maybe not. SURPRISISAUR!

downingthief
01-28-2011, 06:39 AM
In.

Mr. Dylanja
01-28-2011, 06:47 AM
SURPRISISAUR!

LMAO

captncrzy
01-28-2011, 07:19 AM
I'll be there at 5 or so. If I'm there first, should I get a spot inside or outside?

chairmenmeow47
01-28-2011, 07:20 AM
inside. always inside. unless it's like four peaks where outside is next to a heater and it's colder inside. i wear fingerless gloves all day at work i'm so cold, so some warmth would be appreciated :)

downingthief
01-28-2011, 07:23 AM
I believe they have plenty of heaters on the patio. Inside will be tougher with a larger crew.

amyzzz
01-28-2011, 07:57 AM
I'll be there a bit after 6.

captncrzy
01-28-2011, 08:11 AM
I believe they have plenty of heaters on the patio. Inside will be tougher with a larger crew.

Yeah..honestly, inside is pretty small.

I.F.A.
01-28-2011, 08:19 AM
I'll be there around 7 and have no preference, but I think we're more likely to get a spot outside.

captncrzy
01-28-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm going to leave in about 15 mins.

TheClares
01-28-2011, 03:35 PM
Due to an excessively crazy week, Kim and I can't make it. We were hoping to share in some of the Post lineup/ticket excitement. Enjoy.

Mr. Dylanja
01-29-2011, 09:05 PM
How was the meet up?

M Sparks
01-30-2011, 01:04 AM
How was the meet up?

Macaroni & Cheese was had. Amyzzz drank Mexican Coke and Ivy gave her a hug. I got kinda drunk on Gordon IPA.

Somewhat Damaged
01-30-2011, 06:29 AM
The ATP NJ attendees commandeered one side of the table and rubbed their ticket purchase in everyone else's faces. We were obnoxious.

M Sparks
01-30-2011, 08:26 AM
The ATP NJ attendees commandeered one side of the table and rubbed their ticket purchase in everyone else's faces.

JEN: "(something about how awesome it will be)"

ME: "I don't really like Portishead that much. They're OK."

JEN: "Don't worry, they will come to LA."

ME: (in my mind)-"Why would I go to LA to see something I don't like that much?"

ME: (out loud)- "Awesome"

westcoastpirate
01-30-2011, 09:30 AM
JEN: "(something about how awesome it will be)"

ME: "I don't really like Portishead that much. They're OK."

JEN: "Don't worry, they will come to LA."

ME: (in my mind)-"Why would I go to LA to see something I don't like that much?"

ME: (out loud)- "Awesome"

Haha.

captncrzy
01-30-2011, 01:37 PM
JEN: "(something about how awesome it will be)"

ME: "I don't really like Portishead that much. They're OK."

JEN: "Don't worry, they will come to LA."

ME: (in my mind)-"Why would I go to LA to see something I don't like that much?"

ME: (out loud)- "Awesome"

I may not have understood what you said.

Or I wasn't listening.

Gribbz
01-30-2011, 02:38 PM
JEN: "(something about how awesome it will be)"

ME: "I don't really like Portishead that much. They're OK."

JEN: "Don't worry, they will come to LA."

ME: (in my mind)-"Why would I go to LA to see something I don't like that much?"

ME: (out loud)- "Awesome"

Haaaa

downingthief
01-30-2011, 05:24 PM
Enjoyed the meetup! Nice to see the zzzizzzzler out, and to meet Marc's new chica. And, the mac n cheese is better than advertised.

downingthief
01-30-2011, 05:27 PM
Also, the Pizzeria Bianco needs to happen. Soon.

Mr. Dylanja
01-30-2011, 05:29 PM
Also, the Pizzeria Bianco needs to happen. Soon.

I will attend this meet up.

amyzzz
01-31-2011, 07:49 AM
Goddamnit we've been talking about Pizzeria Bianco for YEARS now. YEARS! It was so nice seeing everyone again. Sorry that I was subdued. I envy the Portishead people.

captncrzy
01-31-2011, 07:55 AM
Let's organize a date/time for Bianco.

chairmenmeow47
01-31-2011, 08:15 AM
good luck. i gave up because their reservation system is so ridiculous. you can only call a month in advance, but all the reservations fill up fast. someone else can coordinate, i don't like that bullshit.

captncrzy
01-31-2011, 08:42 AM
I'm taking a year off from coordinating.

downingthief
01-31-2011, 08:44 AM
I'll take the reins.

I'll need a list of those interested, and some general dates available please. :)

M Sparks
01-31-2011, 08:48 AM
I'm in as long as it's a Thurs or Fri.

captncrzy
01-31-2011, 08:48 AM
We are. We're avail most days. We're gone the end of March for Royksopp (28th/29th).

Mr. Dylanja
01-31-2011, 08:52 AM
Fridays work best for me.

chairmenmeow47
01-31-2011, 08:54 AM
i'd say just plan without my availability. i have a lot going on this month and if i can make it great, if not, no biggie.

TomAz
01-31-2011, 08:54 AM
oh's really's?

amyzzz
01-31-2011, 08:56 AM
I might be able to do a Friday.

Mr. Dylanja
01-31-2011, 08:57 AM
Damn it, Tom.

I.F.A.
01-31-2011, 09:02 AM
I could do the 18th or 25th. I'm totally open in March.

downingthief
01-31-2011, 09:14 AM
Fridays work best for me too, so I think that is the best day. I'll call today to see how far out the reservations are.

Mr. Dylanja
01-31-2011, 10:24 AM
zzzizzzleroo?

amyzzz
01-31-2011, 10:42 AM
Is that some abbreiviated way to ask me if I'm going to Bonnaroo..? (I'm not). :)

downingthief
01-31-2011, 06:51 PM
Oh, no! We suck again! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/26/arizona-birther-bill-judy-burges_n_814415.html)

Cactuskev
02-01-2011, 06:33 AM
Hey People!

Fellow Phoenician here and first time Coachellan!

I'm incredibly stoked to be going this year - half the bands are on my current playlist!

Would love to meet some new people and have some friends to party with at the show, and I hope you guys don't mind if I hit you up for a few questions from time to time.

btw, I'm planning to leave on Thursday afternoon and return on Monday - if anyone needs a lift, let me know.

C'mon APRIL!

- Kev

M Sparks
02-01-2011, 07:07 AM
Welcome, Kev.

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2011, 07:12 AM
welcome, kev!

can't wait for little dragon tonight!!! anyone want to have dinner before the show?

downingthief
02-01-2011, 07:18 AM
You kids and your dragon music.

downingthief
02-01-2011, 07:19 AM
Oh, and welcome Kev!

I.F.A.
02-01-2011, 07:26 AM
welcome, kev!

can't wait for little dragon tonight!!! anyone want to have dinner before the show?

My wrist is bothering me, so I think I might be skipping yoga. So, I can meet you wherever beforehand.

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2011, 07:27 AM
sorry to hear about the wrist, but excited for meeting up :) name a restaurant near there!

M Sparks
02-01-2011, 07:52 AM
I think I might be skipping yoga.

Second time in a week, slacker.

I.F.A.
02-01-2011, 07:54 AM
Second time in a week, slacker.


Lol, yeah. I mean to go every day after work. It just doesn't always work out that way.

Ivy, I emailed you. Fez?

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2011, 08:18 AM
fez it is!

does anyone know if the rhythm room allows cameras? is it all seated or standing?

westcoastpirate
02-01-2011, 08:21 AM
fez it is!

does anyone know if the rhythm room allows cameras? is it all seated or standing?

The Rhythm Room is all standing and they allow cameras (non professional). I don't know about professional cameras though.

chairmenmeow47
02-01-2011, 08:26 AM
thank you! i think imma stop by & get my camera on my lunch break :)

Mr. Dylanja
02-01-2011, 10:11 AM
There's a few places to sit down if you get there early enough isn't there?

M Sparks
02-01-2011, 11:23 AM
True...barstools behind the half-wall.

AZfun.fan
02-01-2011, 11:30 AM
hmm. I'm from Tucson...am I allowed to part take in this thread?



CHELLA 10, CHELLA 11(soon to be)

TomAz
02-01-2011, 11:32 AM
do you have breasts?

Gribbz
02-01-2011, 11:37 AM
hmm. I'm from Tucson...am I allowed to part take in this thread?



CHELLA 10, CHELLA 11(soon to be)

Yep. I'm from Tucson and I post in here sometimes.

(I also have lovely breasts).

Mr. Dylanja
02-01-2011, 11:45 AM
Dale has an award-winning chest, actually.

M Sparks
02-01-2011, 11:47 AM
Clearly an alias...

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd333/marc242/azfun.jpg

AZfun.fan
02-01-2011, 07:57 PM
oh sweet! hello fellow desert people! So i know there is a tucson row of campers planning to meet up, is this the phoenix one? I dont have a camping pass but i'd like to know where the partys going on at night :)

M Sparks
02-01-2011, 10:57 PM
This is kind of the general Arizona social connection...thing. Doesn't have anything to do with camping.

faxman75
02-02-2011, 06:31 AM
State Repulicans tell the people to suck it up and deal...

The Senate Appropriations Committee examined a proposal from Gov. Jan Brewer to cut $170 million from the state university system, as well as a plan to save $1 billion next year by eliminating health-care coverage for 280,000 people, mostly childless adults.

The bottom line, said Sen. Rick Murphy, R-Peoria, is people have to shoulder more responsibility for themselves.

"This isn't the only time in our history when people had to choose between food and medicine," said Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/02/02/20110202arizona-budget-hearing-health-care-cuts.html#ixzz1CocwtROT

Somewhat Damaged
02-02-2011, 07:21 AM
Wow, what a bunch of fuckheads. I wish the majority of those impacted by those cuts were the idiots who voted them into office but I know that's probably not the case.

faxman75
02-02-2011, 07:58 AM
This state regularly attacks health care and education. Cut cut cut. Keep em' stupid and sick while ruling by fear.

Fucking snowflake. Sen. Sylvia Allen your town has a population of less than 5,000 people. Do you all remember who Sylvia Allen is? If not. Here is a reminder. Sylvia, your religion is hateful and you are an absolute moron. You are part of the long list of idiots in Arizona politics.

6,000 year old earth.

uVAzYIbh2Qg

captncrzy
02-02-2011, 08:27 AM
I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

downingthief
02-02-2011, 08:42 AM
Rk9aThIovMA

faxman75
02-02-2011, 10:04 AM
Just got this in a work e-mail about an Art Exhibit at ASU. Quite the stat. Are we turning into a prison state?

“A recent Pew Center report indicates that in 2008,one in 33 adults in Arizona was under correctional control, which includes jail, prison, parole and probation.Twenty-five years ago, this number was one in 79.What has changed so much is not human nature, but the offenses for which we incarcerate and the imposition of mandatory sentences.”- Rep. Cecil Ash, R-Mesa (Ariz.)

ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY ART MUSEUM
Tempe, AZ
http://asuartmuseum.wordpress.com

IT’S NOT JUST BLACK AND WHITE
Gregory Sale - Social Studies Project 6
February 1 – May 14, 2011

Season Opening Reception:
Friday, February 18 from 7-9pm

higgybaby23
02-02-2011, 10:12 AM
I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

You're moving to Tucson? :winkiss

faxman75
02-02-2011, 12:19 PM
I.F.A. a birdie told me you are going to Calexico on Friday. If you or anyone else are interested we (Me, Tommy, Joel...possibly another friend Niki) are going to meet up for dinner at Los Dos Molinos in S. Phoenix for dinner before the show.

Here's a short trailer for Friday's show and it will be a festive evening at a beautiful new venue for those who may still be interested in attending.

lKJVR3muyYI

I.F.A.
02-02-2011, 12:22 PM
I am indeed! Thanks for the invite, but I don't get off of work until around 5:30, and I'm riding with a friend, so I don't think I'd have time to make it to dinner.

I will, however, see you there! :)

NachoCat
02-02-2011, 12:31 PM
fez it is!

does anyone know if the rhythm room allows cameras? is it all seated or standing?


FEZ has some great eats!

TommyboyUNM
02-02-2011, 01:17 PM
Hi, Phoenix. A friend and I are looking to shop for some vinyl on Sunday. Which places in the area do you recommend? Looking forward to seeing everybody this weekend.

higgybaby23
02-02-2011, 01:25 PM
I've heard Stinkweeds is decent. I have not been to their storefront, but have bought from them at record shows. Zia is my favorite record store in AZ. I think there is at least one in PHX.

I.F.A.
02-02-2011, 01:28 PM
Revolver Records, just east of Central on Roosevelt. It's also only about 10 minutes from Stinkweeds.

There are several Zias in Phoenix. The closest one to downtown would be on 19th avenue and Indian School.

faxman75
02-02-2011, 01:47 PM
I would say stinkweeds but that's probably only because it's owned by Kimber Lanning the girl in the youtube video on the last page. She's a local music icon and has a very respected store. I don't buy vinyl though so i'm hardly an authority on the subject.

westcoastpirate
02-02-2011, 02:04 PM
I haven't been to Revolver Records yet, but I have heard they are hands down the best in town for vinyl. And on Sunday nights they have bands play for free, they call the night the Outer Bounds of Sound (I assume the bands that play are experimental).

I.F.A.
02-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Revolver is definitely best for vinyl.

GuyInTucson
02-02-2011, 02:16 PM
Shit, I can't even tell you where to get vinyl anymore in Tucson. Zia for sure, but their selection is always limited.

I used to get mine at Sound Factory but that place closed down years ago.

downingthief
02-02-2011, 02:17 PM
Revolver is definitely best for vinyl.

Seconded.

captncrzy
02-03-2011, 06:33 AM
Revolver has a ton of vinyl.

I picked up an original copy of Music for the Masses there. I was so excited.

Somewhat Damaged
02-03-2011, 07:50 AM
Shit, I can't even tell you where to get vinyl anymore in Tucson. Zia for sure, but their selection is always limited.

I used to get mine at Sound Factory but that place closed down years ago.

Oh, Sound Factory. My proper introduction to electronic music was there. "House For Sale" indeed.

NachoCat
02-04-2011, 07:39 AM
Got some free tickets to the FBR, errr waste management open on sat. Anyone else going? Ive never been before but hear its a good time. Hopefully a little warmer tomorrow

TomAz
02-04-2011, 07:52 AM
This is the first year in a while I won't be going. I've never paid for tickets. I'm really not much of a golf fan so I get bored with that part pretty quickly. But it's fun when the weather is nice, you can go sit outside and drink beer all day and hang out with other people also sitting outside drinking beer.

Mr. Dylanja
02-04-2011, 07:54 AM
I'm not, I was on the Sixteenth Green when Tiger got his ace, haven't been back since.

NachoCat
02-04-2011, 08:39 AM
So being in North scottsdale and as popular as it is. Its going to cost me $7 a beer isnt it ?

captncrzy
02-04-2011, 08:47 AM
Pretty sure it's more than that.

chairmenmeow47
02-04-2011, 08:49 AM
ROCK BAND! also, possible grilling & hot tubbing!

how about friday, the 18th or sunday the 20th? i know john is only available on the weekend, marc is only available on friday. whichever date gets more votes will be the day.

i also looked into rock band 3... you can get the wii disc & keyboard on amazon for like $99. that means no new guitars or drums. we can get a drum pedal for like $30 on ebay i think. i talked to amy and we're going to go in on this together when we can afford it.

I.F.A.
02-04-2011, 08:55 AM
Ivy, either day works for me. :)

mountmccabe
02-04-2011, 09:10 AM
If it is Friday we may be able to make it after the family birthday party, depending on how long we want to hang out with everyone after the 5 and under set have gone to bed.

chairmenmeow47
02-04-2011, 09:15 AM
sweet :)

M Sparks
02-04-2011, 09:18 AM
i know john is only available on the weekend, marc is only available on friday. whichever date gets more votes will be the day.

POPULARITY CONTEST!

Adrienne asked if I was going to First Friday, no plans nailed down, but if anyone else wants to go wander around, let me know. I haven't been since they cancelled the street fair, might be nice now that the carnival crowd is gone.

amyzzz
02-04-2011, 10:54 AM
I would like to come, if that's ok, if I can get Jacob to watch the kids.

chairmenmeow47
02-04-2011, 11:56 AM
you are welcome :) i'm leaning towards friday at this point. expect a facebook invite cause i'm also inviting some other non-boardies too.

Alligator Bogaloo
02-07-2011, 06:45 AM
I went and saw the French animated film "The Illusionist" at Harkins Camelview this weekend. I really enjoyed it and didn't realize that there would be practically no dialog. So, it was a nice surprise for it to be almost a silent movie.

faxman75
02-07-2011, 06:48 AM
I liked the American movie called The Illusionist i'm glad it had dialog too.

M Sparks
02-07-2011, 07:29 AM
The Illusionist...the American one...was awful IMO. That was weird...they had the two competing "magician movies" that year and I picked the wrong one. The Prestige was fantastic, though.

Alligator Bogaloo
02-07-2011, 09:16 AM
I liked the American movie called The Illusionist i'm glad it had dialog too.

:nono

chairmenmeow47
02-07-2011, 09:31 AM
rock band is officially happening the friday of president's day, the 18th. i created the invite quickly at my man's yesterday, so if i forgot anyone or messed something up, lemme know. zzz, i'll respond tonight :)

mountmccabe
02-07-2011, 04:13 PM
I went and saw the French animated film "The Illusionist" at Harkins Camelview this weekend. I really enjoyed it and didn't realize that there would be practically no dialog. So, it was a nice surprise for it to be almost a silent movie.

Oh, cool, I didn't know that it had hit a theater in Phoenix. I will try to catch that this week.

faxman75
02-07-2011, 05:33 PM
The Illusionist...the American one...was awful IMO. That was weird...they had the two competing "magician movies" that year and I picked the wrong one. The Prestige was fantastic, though.

I liked both quite a bit. Giamatti was awesome in the Illusionist.

mountmccabe
02-11-2011, 09:56 AM
I am excited that Nixon In China (http://www.metoperafamily.org//metopera/broadcast/hd_events_template.aspx?id=11964&hpbucketTomorrow), live broadcast in HD from the Met is almost here. It goes at 11 am on Saturday and runtime is 3:40.

I will likely go to Desert Ridge but it is also showing at Cinemark 16 in Mesa, AMC Westgate in Glendale and the AMC Ahwatukee.

I love this opera, goddamn.

Alligator Bogaloo
02-14-2011, 06:40 AM
Arcade Fire won album of the year and Radiohead has a new album out Saturday. Best Monday evar!

TomAz
02-14-2011, 07:23 AM
Arcade Fire and Radiohead are playing a free outdoor concert in Papago park this weekend.

M Sparks
02-14-2011, 07:55 AM
Papago Park? Ehhhhh...

captncrzy
02-14-2011, 07:56 AM
Fuck that. The sound would reverberate off the canyons. Plus, PP smells like cow shit. And it's a total pain in the ass to drive over there.

amyzzz
02-14-2011, 07:57 AM
Nice dream.

TomAz
02-14-2011, 09:56 AM
Only people on this board would complain about the conditions at a fictional free concert of two greatly beloved bands.

downingthief
02-14-2011, 09:57 AM
I enjoyed it, Tom. I'll be in the front row, holding backstage passes

captncrzy
02-14-2011, 09:57 AM
It's all part of my charm

TomAz
02-14-2011, 09:58 AM
I'll be backstage making out with Drew Barrymore.

downingthief
02-14-2011, 10:06 AM
I'll be backstage making out with Drew Barrymore.

Only after me, Old Man.

westcoastpirate
02-14-2011, 10:09 AM
Papago Park is very convenient for us, nice venue choice.

Mr. Dylanja
02-14-2011, 10:11 AM
I'm waiting in line with Supre, they just soundchecked a new song. It sounds like U2 mixed with Oasis.

chairmenmeow47
02-14-2011, 10:17 AM
Only people on this board would complain about the conditions at a fictional free concert of two greatly beloved bands.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

rock band. friday. BE THERE. address will be on facebook.

NachoCat
02-14-2011, 10:27 AM
Arcade Fire and Radiohead are playing a free outdoor concert in Papago park this weekend.


awwww man id go but Arcade Fire and Radiohead are playing :/

higgybaby23
02-17-2011, 11:20 AM
http://themantoothgroup.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/record-fair.jpg

Alligator Bogaloo
02-18-2011, 06:45 AM
/\ /\ /\

I might go to that.

Yay! we can download the new Radiohead today! I will be doing that right after work. Has anyone gotten it yet? Listened to it yet? What do you think?

I can't wait to get home...

Gribbz
02-18-2011, 10:07 AM
Anything going down tonight? I should be getting into Tempe around 7 or so...

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 10:09 AM
ROCK BAND PARTY!!!! my place :)

and i saw you spit some game, so i will PM my number :p

Gribbz
02-18-2011, 10:14 AM
Hahahaha. Pure poetry.

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 10:15 AM
INDEED!

i will be picking up alcohol and snacks on my way home :) also, we will need to duct tape the drum pedal. if someone has any extra duct tape laying around, can you please bring it? i think i have a little bit, but just to be safe.

M Sparks
02-18-2011, 10:20 AM
I can probably provide the duct tape, I'll let you know if I can't find it.

Somewhat Damaged
02-18-2011, 10:31 AM
We're out. Having Jen's birthday dinner with her 'rents tonight. (They're paying, there's alcohol, it can't be missed.) Hope you guys have a blast!

I.F.A.
02-18-2011, 10:40 AM
^ I'm sorry you and Jen can't make it. Have fun!

Also, I made a special point of buying a new bathing suit, and insist that hot-tubbing be had.

Mr. Dylanja
02-18-2011, 10:41 AM
Elliot Lipp is in Tempe. Is he/they any good? What type of music is it?

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 10:44 AM
don't know who that is. you should come see amy e. and the plastic kiwi band instead :p

and yes, hot tubbing is a must. that's something we can save until later in the evening though. i just don't feel like grilling cause i'll have to keep going back and forth when people arrive and such.

Gribbz
02-18-2011, 10:45 AM
Elliot Lipp is in Tempe. Is he/they any good? What type of music is it?

He opened for Ghostland at the Rialto a few years ago(not the show you went to).

Well, "Lipp Service" technically did.... same guy though.

wMHi1iypop8
wVDECBuu21c&playnext=1&list=PL0E0556C66E0DE6FC

Not bad.

EDIT* Where is he playing?

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 10:49 AM
and also sorry to hear rick & jen can't make it. hopefully by the next time we rock out, i'll have rock band 3 and we can use the keyboard and have more songs to jen's liking *cough*depeche mode*cough* :)

amyzzz
02-18-2011, 11:03 AM
Re: hot tubbing, it's not supposed to rain tonight, is it? It looks really cloudy out now. I look forward to seeing you all tonight!

Mr. Dylanja
02-18-2011, 11:28 AM
zzzizzzy, are you singing tonight?

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 11:31 AM
yeah, we won't go in if it's pouring.

amyzzz
02-18-2011, 11:54 AM
I have not played Rock Band before, so everyone can feel free to make fun of me tonight. :)

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 11:56 AM
that's half the fun of rock band ;)

and don't feel pressured to play more than once if you don't dig it. twilight has never played, but still comes over. the only requirement is that you MUST wear a silly hat during i am the walrus.

I.F.A.
02-18-2011, 12:55 PM
Arizona bans "Karma" (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/12/sharia-fever-catch-it)


And then there's Arizona, which, in characteristic fashion, made everyone else's bill look somewhat tame. Brought to the floor by two legislators who authored the state's birther bill and the S.B. 1070 immigration law, the act (pdf) would have also added canon law, Halacha, and...Karma to the forbidden list. Banning Karma? I see no way that could come back to bite them.

Keepin it classy.

From the bill:


3. "RELIGIOUS SECTARIAN LAW" MEANS ANY STATUTE, TENET OR BODY OF LAW
41 EVOLVING WITHIN AND BINDING A SPECIFIC RELIGIOUS SECT OR TRIBE. RELIGIOUS
42 SECTARIAN LAW INCLUDES SHARIA LAW, CANON LAW, HALACHA AND KARMA BUT DOES NOT
43 INCLUDE ANY LAW OF THE UNITED STATES OR THE INDIVIDUAL STATES BASED ON
44 ANGLO-AMERICAN LEGAL TRADITION AND PRINCIPLES ON WHICH THE UNITED STATES WAS
45 FOUNDED.

This is hilarious. Obviously the legislature has absolutely no idea what the concept of "karma" means (also, I find it telling that they specified the "ANGLO"-American legal tradition). I really wish they would stop making this state a laughingstock.

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 12:58 PM
wtf?!

Mr. Dylanja
02-18-2011, 12:59 PM
I read, "Halacha," and immediately said "SAUR" in my head.

Somewhat Damaged
02-18-2011, 01:00 PM
I hope Kanye West's "POWER" is available on Rock Band next time we're/I'm in attendance.

amyzzz
02-18-2011, 01:23 PM
christ.

Mr. Dylanja
02-18-2011, 01:29 PM
jesus...












...walks

chairmenmeow47
02-18-2011, 01:30 PM
you saw me, the baller!

Alligator Bogaloo
02-18-2011, 03:44 PM
Arcade Fire - 4/13 - Comerica Theatre - 7:30 pm - $36.00

Presale - 2/23 - Sale - 2/25

Fuck Yes!

Yeah... It is so on... All I need now is a presale password.

downingthief
02-22-2011, 07:53 AM
Just when it couldn't get any worse...

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/02/21/20110221arizona-immigration-bill-more-enforcement.html

I.F.A.
02-22-2011, 07:58 AM
Just when it couldn't get any worse...

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/02/21/20110221arizona-immigration-bill-more-enforcement.html

Ugh.

I'd like to nominate Pearce for .... something unpleasant.

downingthief
02-22-2011, 08:03 AM
SB1070 goes too far...now this? Really?
It's ironic that these flag waving teabaggers are wanting something akin to Soviet Russia with this bill.

I.F.A.
02-22-2011, 08:33 AM
It's ironic that these flag waving teabaggers are wanting something akin to Soviet Russia with this bill.

The whole movement is rife with contradiction. No socialism! But don't touch my social security! Keep the government out of our personal lives! Unless you want an abortion! Free market capitalism! Wait, they took our jobz!

America, fuck yeah.

Mr. Dylanja
02-22-2011, 10:22 AM
zzzizzzler, whatdya think of the new Radiohead album?

TomAz
02-22-2011, 11:36 AM
SB1070 goes too far...now this? Really?
It's ironic that these flag waving teabaggers are wanting something akin to Soviet Russia with this bill.

That's small potatoes compared with SB 1433.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/02/03/133470963/proposed-legislation-would-allow-arizona-to-ignore-federal-laws

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2011/02/03/20110203Montini0203.html

M Sparks
02-22-2011, 11:45 AM
I was just dicking around watching music videos and almost had a heart attack...

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd333/marc242/sparksunderground.jpg

Alas, it's bullshit.

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd333/marc242/sparksfail.jpg

Thanks for the new "feature", Youtube.

mountmccabe
02-22-2011, 02:26 PM
Arizona bans "Karma" (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/12/sharia-fever-catch-it)

[...]

This is hilarious. Obviously the legislature has absolutely no idea what the concept of "karma" means (also, I find it telling that they specified the "ANGLO"-American legal tradition). I really wish they would stop making this state a laughingstock.

This is from last year and thankfully it never even got out of the Senate.


Also I find it bizarre that they include "canon law" (i.e. Catholic law) but not Protestant law.

I.F.A.
02-22-2011, 02:46 PM
Ah, I should have checked the date on the bill. I meant to look up the status but didn't get around to it.

Still... terribly silly.

TomAz
02-23-2011, 04:00 AM
So after work yesterday I came home and took my dog on a walk-jog around FH and a few miles into it we're going up this road with a steep hill and i look over and there's a bobcat about 10 yards ahead of us and just a little bit off the sidewalk. It was really big, easily the largest bobcat I've ever seen, had to be 2' tall at the shoulders and probably 2'-3' long. He was headed the same way we were, up the hill. we followed but i was a little nervous of passing, but he was taking his damned time. walk a bit, turn around and look at us, walk some more. He certainly didnt seem to lack any confidence. Finally i crossed the median to the other side of the street and passed him that way. he just sat down, sort of hid behing a bush, and watched us. I yelled out "hello mr. bobcat" to him but he refused to deign to acknowlege my existence. It was so damned cool.

downingthief
02-23-2011, 06:00 AM
Nice, Tom. I had a similar experience in FH playing golf. Very large bobcat crossed over the fairway about 20 yards in front of our group. Took his sweet ass time, too.

captncrzy
02-23-2011, 06:01 AM
Hey, they're bobcats. What else they got to do?

TomAz
02-23-2011, 06:02 AM
Were you playing Sunridge? cuz I was right near there. could have been the same bobcat.

downingthief
02-23-2011, 06:04 AM
Nope, Eagle Mountain.

EmLeaux
02-23-2011, 06:44 AM
Hey, they're bobcats. What else they got to do?

"Hey hey we're the Bobcats! People say we bobcat around..."

chairmenmeow47
02-23-2011, 07:43 AM
bobcat, whoa! i see bunnies & desert squirrels & coyotes, but never a bobcat! that's nuts.

Mr. Dylanja
02-23-2011, 08:17 AM
Let's not forget, that bobcat may have witnessed "Running Tom," an equally rare, natural wonder.

amyzzz
02-23-2011, 08:28 AM
Bunnies, coyotes, and quail near me, and I saw a big owl once at night, but no bobcats. That sounds a bit scary but cool, Tom.

Alligator Bogaloo
02-23-2011, 08:33 AM
The first rank I achieved in cub scouts was Bobcat. I think I needed to save an old lady from getting run over by a bus in order to achieve it.

Hey D$, since ZZZ didn't answer your question about King of Limbs, I will tell you that I've really been enjoying it. The album is short, sweet, and tight. I especially love Morning Mr Magpie, Lotus Flower, and Giving up the Ghost. Listening to Giving up the Ghost reminds me of when Thom played it at Coachella last year. Great memory...

amyzzz
02-23-2011, 09:13 AM
Oh whoops. I missed D's question. I'm still digesting the album, and I am not ready to give a final verdict yet. I like some of it, like Bloom and Give Up the Ghost, but I'm not sure on the others yet.

TomAz
02-23-2011, 09:17 AM
Bunnies, coyotes, and quail near me, and I saw a big owl once at night, but no bobcats. That sounds a bit scary but cool, Tom.

This wasn't even the first time I've seen a bobcat when I've been out walking, but it was the closest/best view I've had when not in a car. Also in FH I've seen bunnies, quail, and coyotes, of course, and lots of javalina, and also rattlesnakes, tarantulas, bats, owls, roadrunners, and even an occasional jackrabbit or golden eagle. Others have seen mountain lions in town but I've not been so lucky. And we did have a black bear in town that one time, but that was a freak thing.

EmLeaux
02-23-2011, 10:22 AM
Man, you guys have fun out in FH. My friend who grew up there told me they once had a duck as a pet.

We get excited here in PHX/Arcadia when we see a somewhat larger lizard in our backyard.

A black bear? That is nuts. You sure you weren't just in Glendale enjoying a delicious meal (http://www.blackbeardiner.com/locations/arizona/glendale.aspx)? ;)

TheClares
02-23-2011, 11:31 AM
We definitely get bobcats in Fountain Hills. Heck, we get them in our backyard. These videos are from a couple years ago when a Momma bobcat spent a good part of the Spring and Summer raising her cubs/kittens how to hunt the Quail in our trees.

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TomAz
02-23-2011, 11:34 AM
man those are really cool videos.

the cat i saw last night had to be 50% bigger than your momma cat. that was kinda freaky.

FYI it was on Sunridge Dr, going up the hill away from Desert Canyon, up toward the golf course and eventually to Palisades.

faxman75
02-26-2011, 05:27 AM
Things just keeps getting worse.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PoliticalInsider/119826

Lets hope this ultimately doesn't pass but it's scary. I wish someone would vote out Sylvia Allen and Kyrsten Sinema continues to be the beacon of hope in this state. Sick, sad world.

westcoastpirate
02-26-2011, 07:42 AM
Everyone fill this out, it will automatically send it to your State Senator:
http://capwiz.com/socialworkers/az/issues/alert/?alertid=30966511&queueid=6538231216

TomAz
02-26-2011, 08:12 AM
Keep in mind that Pearce stacked the App committee with his cronies; they are more right wing than the senate as a whole. And several of the senators who voted yes said they just want to have a serious conversation about the impact of AHCCCS on the state budget and did not want to actually do away with it. so, we'll see.

downingthief
02-26-2011, 08:43 AM
Bill Maher tonight! I'm sure he will be pointing out how hard it is to be a liberal in this state.

TomAz
02-27-2011, 04:52 AM
The McDowells are covered in snow this morning. freaky.

edit: took this standing in my kitchen this morning

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/TomAz/FH22711.jpg

sin213
02-27-2011, 07:12 AM
very cool. weather service did say snow level was gonna be down to 2000-2500 feet...

drugks Gillespie
02-27-2011, 08:31 AM
Mcdowell mountain and the entire sky above and around it was fucking breathtaking, on my drive east on the 101 from Glendale this morning.

chairmenmeow47
02-27-2011, 09:03 AM
i am SO BUMMED i was too sick to board this weekend :(

Courtney
03-02-2011, 01:07 PM
Holy shit, why didn't anyone tell me about ostrich racing (http://www.jaunted.com/story/2011/3/2/54641/28478/travel/Two+Words%3A+Ostrich+Racing.)? You Arizonans are dead to me.

captncrzy
03-02-2011, 01:08 PM
Oh, is it Ostrich Festival time again?

Gribbz
03-02-2011, 01:23 PM
I was bitten by an Ostrich when I was 5.

Every time I drive past that farm on I-10 I roll down the window and shake my fist angrily.

chairmenmeow47
03-02-2011, 01:27 PM
we were talking about the ostrich eggs at lunch today.

captncrzy
03-02-2011, 01:27 PM
I was bitten by an Ostrich when I was 5.

Every time I drive past that farm on I-10 I roll down the window and shake my fist angrily.

You should stop and buy some Ostrich meat. That'll really show 'em.

TomAz
03-02-2011, 01:38 PM
steak from an egg!

M Sparks
03-02-2011, 05:36 PM
Holy shit, why didn't anyone tell me about ostrich racing (http://www.jaunted.com/story/2011/3/2/54641/28478/travel/Two+Words%3A+Ostrich+Racing.)? You Arizonans are dead to me.

This is like 3 miles from my house. Book your flight.

LickTheLizzard
03-02-2011, 05:38 PM
This is like 3 miles from my house. Book your flight.

I think we live very close to each other.

Somewhat Damaged
03-02-2011, 08:41 PM
Okkervil River/Titus Andronicus - June 25 - Rialto Theatre

Tom, don't know if you saw this in the Tucson Concert Awareness Thread. It's a Saturday and Hotel Congress is right across the street, literally stumbling distance if you were to imbibe too much beer. Is that something you'd be compelled to make the drive down for?


The McDowells are covered in snow this morning. freaky.

edit: took this standing in my kitchen this morning

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/TomAz/FH22711.jpg

It looks like there's a gray wolf, or rather in my imagination a person wearing a gray wolf/werewolf costume, near the lower left corner of the picture, just to the right of the bush/tree.


I was bitten by an Ostrich when I was 5.

Every time I drive past that farm on I-10 I roll down the window and shake my fist angrily.

Why'd you capitalize "ostrich"?

insbordnat
03-02-2011, 09:34 PM
Heh, the good old Rooster Cogburn Ostrich Ranch. Apparently they have Lorikeets too. I'm down in Tucson for a client and drove past that shithole.

What's up with the ostrich festival though? My GF was telling me about this today. Shit, I've been here in phx for 6 years and never heard of this.

P.S. and yes, I know how to use google, just want the inside scoop. Worth my time or a joke?

M Sparks
03-02-2011, 11:26 PM
I think we live very close to each other.

Just off Ray, between Cooper and McQueen.

LickTheLizzard
03-02-2011, 11:53 PM
Holy Shit! I live in the Provinces!

Gribbz
03-03-2011, 08:00 AM
Why'd you capitalize "ostrich"?

Hmmm. Didn't realize I did that.

Perhaps I was showing the animal respect through my subconscious.

locachica73
03-04-2011, 09:36 AM
Hey there boys and girls!!! It has been awhile, I should be getting a company laptop here pretty soon so I might be able to come visit more often.

The reason for my visit today is I was going to see if there was anyone in the Phoenix area looking for work. I have been asked to help fill my position so that I can move onto new things. It would be a front desk job with accounting experience (mostly AP), they would also like someone who has some IT type knowledge, we outsource that work but they would like someone that can be backup and work with our IT company. They pay pretty well and the benefits aren't bad. I really like the people I work with so if you know anyone who might fit the bill shoot me an IM and I can tell you where to send a resume.

Just thought I would throw it out there. I hope you are all doing well. :)

M Sparks
03-05-2011, 05:28 PM
Holy Shit! I live in the Provinces!


Ashley Park, neighbor. I'd invite you for a beer, but I'm never there.

westcoastpirate
03-10-2011, 01:24 PM
Dude the Phoenix thread is buried in the Misc Lounge, it's usually one of the first threads on the first page in bold. This is madness!!!

chairmenmeow47
03-10-2011, 01:57 PM
we miss you audra :)

there will be a mini-honeybaked ham at rock band tomorrow.

TomAz
03-10-2011, 02:00 PM
Tom, don't know if you saw this in the Tucson Concert Awareness Thread. It's a Saturday and Hotel Congress is right across the street, literally stumbling distance if you were to imbibe too much beer. Is that something you'd be compelled to make the drive down for?



It looks like there's a gray wolf, or rather in my imagination a person wearing a gray wolf/werewolf costume, near the lower left corner of the picture, just to the right of the bush/tree.

re Tucson: hmm possibly.

re werewolf: I think that's a cholla cactus.

chairmenmeow47
03-10-2011, 02:02 PM
so i think we can now officially confirm that fountain hills contains a population of cactusi that become werewolves when they see snow.

TomAz
03-10-2011, 02:03 PM
you should've heard 'em howling last night. they always howl when there's an ambulance. it's the weirdest fucking thing.

Courtney
03-10-2011, 02:04 PM
My dog used to do that.

Also, thread needs more ostriches.

TomAz
03-10-2011, 02:08 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3053/2560814523_b49bc0d68b.jpg?v=0

So if you're driving from PHX to Tucson, when you get past the outlet mall, and then the truck stops, and then the pecan trees and finally to picacho peak, you know you're gonna be at Rooster Coburn's Ostrich Ranch. right on I-10, you can see the ostriches from the highway. At that point you know you're only like 15 minutes to Marana and less than 30 to Tucson.

chairmenmeow47
03-10-2011, 02:12 PM
picacho peak. otherwise known by my childhood self as "cookie monster mountain".

http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Picacho_Peak.JPG/300px-Picacho_Peak.JPG

downingthief
03-11-2011, 11:15 AM
Our tax dollars hard at work.
(http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2011/03/11/20110311pei-wei-restaurants.html)
Thanks, Sheriff Joe!

westcoastpirate
03-11-2011, 11:22 AM
You have got to be kidding me, yeah haul away those noodle bowl-making hard criminals.

captncrzy
03-11-2011, 11:25 AM
So my work buddies and I went downtown on the lightrail today to hit up lunch truck Fridays. Took us forever to get down there because there was a bad accident on the tracks. Finally get there at noon, and there was only ONE lunch truck down there...WTF?

Ended up grabbing a sammie in the Public Market--which is very cute. All organic and locally grown meats, fruits, veggies, etc. Local beers in cans too!

downingthief
03-11-2011, 11:35 AM
You have got to be kidding me, yeah haul away those noodle bowl-making hard criminals.

I don't know about you, but I feel MUCH safer.

NachoCat
03-11-2011, 11:39 AM
Has anyone been to underground bounce? ( ub's )

M Sparks
03-11-2011, 11:50 AM
Our tax dollars hard at work.
(http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2011/03/11/20110311pei-wei-restaurants.html)
Thanks, Sheriff Joe!

I have mixed feelings on this. As someone who used to be responsible for checking citizenship status on new employees, this is pretty shocking for it to be so widespread at such a huge corporation. I think it deserves to be investigated to make sure the company isn't involved in perpetuating identity theft.

But, presumably, these are the identities of dead people. This pumps tax money into the system that will never be claimed in a refund, and more importantly, into the Social Security system. I'd rather they go after people who are paying undocumented workers under the table.

westcoastpirate
03-11-2011, 01:07 PM
So my work buddies and I went downtown on the lightrail today to hit up lunch truck Fridays. Took us forever to get down there because there was a bad accident on the tracks. Finally get there at noon, and there was only ONE lunch truck down there...WTF?

Ended up grabbing a sammie in the Public Market--which is very cute. All organic and locally grown meats, fruits, veggies, etc. Local beers in cans too!

You've been zapped, follow Phoenix Street Food Coalition on Twitter, they've been sending out messages for a couple weeks that they wouldn't be doing Food Truck Friday today and the trucks would instead be at the Scottsdale Arts Festival.

@PHXStreetFood


Has anyone been to underground bounce? ( ub's )

Where is that at?


I have mixed feelings on this. As someone who used to be responsible for checking citizenship status on new employees, this is pretty shocking for it to be so widespread at such a huge corporation. I think it deserves to be investigated to make sure the company isn't involved in perpetuating identity theft.

But, presumably, these are the identities of dead people. This pumps tax money into the system that will never be claimed in a refund, and more importantly, into the Social Security system. I'd rather they go after people who are paying undocumented workers under the table.

I was sooo close to picking up a couple workers in Guadalupe a couple years ago to haul 2 tons of gravel and fill dirt from our driveway to our backyard and pay them straight cash. I'm surprised I haven't been arrested already for thinking about this out loud (ala Minority Report). Come get me bro.

Mr. Dylanja
03-11-2011, 03:06 PM
Did you guys hear about Cricket, er I mean, Ashley Furniture HomeStore Pavillion?

:nono

insbordnat
03-11-2011, 03:13 PM
Anybody going to the Ostrich Festival tonight? I'm doing it for funsies with my g/f. We'll see.

NachoCat
03-11-2011, 03:20 PM
Did you guys here about Cricket, er I mean, Ashley Furniture HomeStore Pavillion?

:nono

Well that flows easily off the tounge at least :nono

Somewhat Damaged
03-12-2011, 11:31 AM
Good thing there aren't ever any shows there that would compel my attendance.

M Sparks
03-12-2011, 12:26 PM
I was sooo close to picking up a couple workers in Guadalupe a couple years ago to haul 2 tons of gravel and fill dirt from our driveway to our backyard and pay them straight cash. I'm surprised I haven't been arrested already for thinking about this out loud (ala Minority Report). Come get me bro.

That's different. I'm talking about a licensed business paying, say, their entire dishwashing and bussing staff under the table at less than minimum wage.

TomAz
03-13-2011, 06:30 AM
In case anybody was wondering. I, personally, remain forever surprised that a state whose leaders have otherwise shown themselves to be ignorant fucktards can take such a bold and principled stance as forgoing this madness. I pity the pour souls in other parts of the country who give up an hour of sleep in some futile and delusional attempt to somehow "save" daylight.


***
Most of Arizona Exempt from Daylight Saving Time

Arizona is one of the exceptions to the rule when it comes to observing daylight saving time in the United States. Most parts of the state, except the Navajo Nation community, observe Mountain Standard Time (MST) all year long. MST is also known as the Mountain Time Zone and is seven hours behind Coordinated Universal Time (UTC).

timeanddate.com explores the history of daylight saving time in Arizona, including why Arizona does not observe daylight saving and why the Navajo Nation land observes the schedule.


As a result of the Energy Policy Act of 2005, many parts of the United States observe daylight saving time on the second Sunday in March until the first Sunday in November. The Act does not alter the rights of the states and territories that choose not to observe daylight saving time. Arizona is one of the states in the United States that are exempt from daylight saving time.

According to the Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records, daylight saving time in Arizona took place during World War I. On March 31, 1918, daylight saving time, which was also known as War Time, began in the United States to conserve fuel for the war effort during World War I. Arizona participated in this change but not in unison. Some communities in the far west, near California, were on Pacific Time while the rest of Arizona observed Mountain Time. The state’s capital city of Phoenix moved an hour ahead of MST and many communities along the state’s western border moved an hour ahead of Pacific Standard Time (PST). On October 27 that year, the United States returned to its standard time whilst Phoenix returned to MST and the communities on the western Arizona border returned to PST.

On March 30, 1919, Arizona joined the United States in returning to daylight saving time. However, not all of the state followed this change – Phoenix moved an hour ahead of MST but many western Arizona border communities moved an hour ahead of PST. Most of Arizona stopped observing daylight saving time on October 26, 1919, while the Yuma County communities observed Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) from March 6, 1921, until October 30, 1921.

On February 9, 1942, during World War II, most of Arizona moved to Mountain War Time but a few western Arizona border communities observed Pacific War Time. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt instituted War Time (daylight saving time) that year. On January 1, 1944, most of Arizona returned to MST . Some western Arizona border communities remained on Pacific War Time. Also, railroads, air lines, bus lines, military personnel and some engaged in interstate commerce continued to observe Mountain War Time in line with a federal law.

On April 1 that year, a law was passed to establish the state’s standard time. Parts of the state within the Mountain Time zone were to observe Mountain Time while areas of the state in the Pacific Time zone were to observe Pacific Time from October 1 to March 31. Then from April 1 to September 30 that year, the state's areas in the Mountain Time zone were to observe the equivalent of Mountain Daylight Saving Time while areas within the Pacific Time zone were to observe Pacific Daylight Saving Time. Common carriers engaged in interstate commerce and federal officers and departments were exempt from the law. Since this plan was an emergency measure, it became effective as soon as it was signed.

There is some uncertainty as to what happened next. Although it has been suggested that most of Arizona moved to Mountain War Time (or the equivalent of Mountain Daylight Saving Time) on March 17, 1944, the law indicates that the state was to remain on MST until April 1, 1944, and then to Mountain War Time.

On September 30, 1944, most of Arizona returned to MST and the Mohave County region changed to PST with some exceptions (“Clocks Turn Back Hour in State Tonight.” Arizona Republic, 30 Sep 1944, cited from the Arizona State library, Archives and Public Records). Most parts of the state remained on MST until the mid 1960s. Mohave Country joined the rest of the state in observing MST ("Standard Time Law Adopted." Arizona Republic, 8 Mar 1945, cited from the Arizona State library, Archives and Public Records).

In 1966 Congress passed the Uniform Time Act, establishing a beginning and end date for daylight saving time but it was up to local jurisdictions to decide if they wanted to use it. On April 30, 1967, Arizona observed daylight saving time from the last Sunday of April to the last Sunday of October. On October 29 that year, it followed the rest of the nation in returning to standard time (MST). From that point onwards, most parts of the state preferred to remain on MST.

Why was Daylight Saving Unpopular in Arizona?
Many people in Arizona including many businesses, farming communities and people with children, preferred to remain on MST throughout the year because daylight saving produced no personal benefits for them. They had tried it for one year in the 1960s but there was so much negative reaction that they never tried it again. Most people believed that a daylight saving schedule was not necessary for Arizona's hot climate. For many, it was easier to undertake personal activities, including sporting activities, when the temperature was cooler in the evening. Some also said that without daylight saving time, the state still managed to save heating and cooling energy in the summer (northern hemisphere) months.

However, some of the frustrations of observing MST throughout the year are that people in Arizona need to remind other states that it does not observe daylight saving time. This has, at times, been a small challenge for businesses that operate interstate.

Arizona On Mountain Standard Time, Not Pacific Daylight Time
There is a common misperception that Arizona is on Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) during the summer (in the northern hemisphere) and on Mountain Standard Time (MST) during the winter (in the northern hemisphere). Since MST’s time zone offset equals to that of PDT during the United States’ daylight saving period in the summer months, some may say that Arizona is on PDT because it shares the same time as two of its neighboring states, California and Nevada during this period.

However to be precise, Arizona is not on PDT because this term is a daylight saving time/summer time zone. It is generally only used during the daylight saving time for places that observe Pacific Standard Time (PST ) during the non-daylight saving period. As mentioned earlier, most parts of Arizona do not observe daylight saving time, so these parts remain on MST.

Why Arizona's Navajo Nation Observes Daylight Saving Time
The Navajo Nation lands, which extend to the states of Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, observe daylight saving time from April to October. It observes the daylight saving schedule because of its large size – it spans across three states.

During the daylight saving schedule, the Navajo Nation community moves the clock forward to six hours behind UTC, making it an hour ahead of the rest of Arizona. When it does not observe daylight saving time, it moves to clock backward to seven hours behind UTC, being in sync with the rest of Arizona, which observes MST. However, the Hopi Nation within the Navajo reservation follows the rest of the state by not observing daylight saving time.

Other States and Territories Without Daylight Saving
States and territories in the United States that do not observe daylight saving time, aside from most of Arizona, include: Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands. Some parts of Indiana did not observe daylight saving time in the past. However, the entire state is now united in observing daylight saving time since 2006 despite being split into different time zones.

Note: timeanddate.com wishes to thank the Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records for providing permission to use its resources about Arizona’s time and daylight saving schedule. Also, all references to summer and winter in this article relate to the seasons in the northern hemisphere.

M Sparks
03-13-2011, 07:57 AM
My phone decided to jump an hour forward overnight, wake me up an hour early, then correct itself backward as soon as I woke up and starting messing with it. And then the alarm went off again at the correct time.

sin213
03-13-2011, 09:48 AM
Did you guys hear about Cricket, er I mean, Ashley Furniture HomeStore Pavillion?

:nono

jesus h christ. are you serious??

i hate how venues whore themselves out that way. bring back Desert Sky.

Chillzzz
03-13-2011, 12:33 PM
Garnett might come to the Suns.

Its a three way trade with the Celtics and Timber Wolves.

Suns get Garnett

Celtics get Shawn Marion

Timber Wolves get 5th overall pick and other players (unknown at this time)

I don't care about losing Marion because of his disappearing acts in at least one series in the playoffs.

I remember this about to happen and I was against it as a suns fan, I was retarted

Somewhat Damaged
03-13-2011, 09:15 PM
Still are.

M Sparks
03-13-2011, 10:49 PM
jesus h christ. are you serious??

i hate how venues whore themselves out that way. bring back Desert Sky.

You mean Blockbuster Desert Sky Pavilion.

sin213
03-14-2011, 08:19 AM
yeah, it was blockbuster, but they also gave it a real name, "Desert Sky Pavillion", to be called separately from the corporate name. Cricket and Ashley Furniture HomeStore aren't names suitable for a venue.

westcoastpirate
03-14-2011, 05:45 PM
AHFS Pavilion.

Mr. Dylanja
03-14-2011, 05:47 PM
Ahfuhssss

westcoastpirate
03-15-2011, 02:53 PM
World Fest this weekend at Heritage Square, including World of Beers if anyone is interested. I'm thinking about checking it out after work on Friday. It's pretty cool because there's no entry fee and you pay per sample.

https://www.phoenixsistercities.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31&Itemid=42


World of Beers

You won't want to miss this festival of unique draft beers from around the world!


Friday, March 18: 4:00pm-10:00pm
Saturday, March 19: Noon-11:00pm
Sunday, March 20: Noon-5:00pm

General Information

Enjoy great beers, great entertainment, fun games and FREE admission!
The World of Beers offers an extensive variety of unique beers and micro-brews, all on tap!
You will be able to buy a sample tray or a 16 oz. cup of your favorite for $4. (Non-alcoholic beverages also available.)

Beers of the World

* A-1 Pilsner, USA
Arizona classic that's back, light pils, crisp, and has full body.

* Affligem Blonde, Belgium
Honey and spice notes, with a velvety smooth, clean finish. Golden in color with a dense, creamy head.

* Belhaven Scottish Ale, Scotland
Traditional Scottish style ale made to be savored with or without food.

* BJ's Nutty Brewnette, USA
A unique American-style brown ale. A blend of four different dark malts produces a flavor profile that is sweet with nutty notes. A healthy dose of hops makes this beer hoppier and more balanced than most English brown ales.

* BJ's Special Lager, USA

* Black Flag Imperial Stout, USA
Huge nose of fresh pine and grapefruit combined with chocolate and roasted coffee notes. Pours extremely thick. Fruity, malty sweet, viscous mouth feel with lasting resinous hop bitterness. Sticks to the interior of your mouth with lasting caramel chocolate.

* Chimay Cing Cent White Cap, Belgium
Complete fermentation gives this light ale a dry body. Fruity acidity and yeast notes are present. Sharp dry hop finish. Also refered to as Chimany White Ale.

* Honey Brown, USA
Brewed with naturally pure Canadian honey, this pilsner style is well balanced with a slightly sweet finish. All of the honey is consumed in fermentation.

* Erdinger Weiss bier (Hefe), Germany
The Top Class premium Wheat beer with fine yeast. Top fermented and traditionally matured in the bottle. Refreshing and sparkling, with a flowery bouquet. The pinnacle of Old-Bavarian Wheatbeer brewing know-how.

* Four Peaks Hop Knot, USA
A big, broad-shouldered, hoppy beer backed up by a character as warm as, well, Mon and apple pie. Hop Knot gets its name from the weaving of four different hops added at four separate times during the process.

* Four Peaks Kiltlifter, USA
A Scottish-Style ale made with a blend of four different malts including a peat smoked malt used in making scotch whiskey. Flavor ranges from sweet to roasted with an underlying hint of smokiness and a rich amber color.

* Four Peaks 8th Street Pale Ale, USA
A classic American Pale Ale. Full flavored, medium-bodied, and well balanced with a bright copper appearance and floral aroma.

* Franziskaner Hefeweiss Light, Germany
Clovey nose, high carbonation and medium tangy spicy body. Yeast present in nose and flavor. Long spicy finish.

* Friuli Strawberry White Ale, Belgium
Friuli is a blend of 70% white beer and 30% strawberry. Very drinkable strawberry white ale.

* Fullers London Pride, England
Reddish amber with brilliant color, medium body, multi-layered flavor. Subtly carbonated, rich and balanced.

* Genesee Cream Ale, USA
Famous for its deep malty flavor and smooth, clean finish. Genny Cream is a two-time national gold medal winner. Clearly America's Classic Cream Ale.

* Guinness Stout Pub Draft, Ireland
Robust burnt roast color and flavor. Rich creamy head but very lightly carbonated. Dryish body is still full.

* Harp Lager, Ireland
Bright straw color, clean body opens off-dry and finishes with slight cleansing hop dryness.

* Lagunitas Pils, USA
Our first lager, brewed with loads of Saaz hops and a bottom-fermenting yeast strain that leaves it light and easy to slam, yet full of flavor and all the things you yearn for.

* Lagunitas Seasonal , USA

* Mendocino Red Tail, USA
Copper in color, bottle conditioned. This ale is remarkably round, smooth and flavorsome with a superb balance of malt, hop and fruit.

* Moretti Birra Lager, Italy
Classic European Lager brewed in Italy. Crisp, smooth, and refreshing.

* Nimbus Old Monkeyshine, USA
It is medium bodied and possesses a distinct, dark roasted flavor. Its sweet malty taste is derived from liberal use of seven varieties of specialty malts and a touch of brown sugar. Dark in color, beginning with a slight caramel malt overtone and rounded.

* Nimbus Blonde, USA
Light, crisp, and refreshing ale brewed with a touch of mesquite honey. Perfect for the warm temperature of Arizona.

* Nimbus Red Ale, USA
A amber red ale with a balance of sweetness and hops. Medium-bodied ale.

* Oak Creek Amber, USA
A deep copper-colored medium-bodied ale. Its fresh flavor is smooth and carefully balanced with a nice mellowness and hint of caramel malt balanced by medium hop bitterness. It is and all malt beer that is naturally carbonated; very drinkable.

* Oak Creek King Crimson, USA
Pours a reddish color with a thin but solid head. Head fades but leaves a solid lacing across the top of the beer. Sweet malt aroma, with just a bit of fruity hops.

* Oggi's Black Magic Stout, USA
This foreign-style stout is similar to bottled Guinness; a big dark brew that is rich and malty with plenty of roasted barley character. Six different malts combine to create this fantastic stout that is layered with chocolate-like flavors. You like coffee, you'll love this beer.

* Oggi's McGarvery Scotch Ale, USA
A rich, malty Scottish style ale brewed with a splash of molasses in the boil to create a unique Caramel flavor. Small quantities of hops are used to keep the bitterness low and the aroma and finish clean and crisp. Named for our first brewmaster in Del Mar, John Garvey.

* Rogue Dead Guy Ale, USA
Dead Guy is a German-style Maibock made with Rogue's proprietary 'PacMan' ale yeast. It is deep honey in color with a malty aroma, rich hearty flavor and a well balanced finish.

* Rogue Old Crustacean, USA
Classic Barley wine. High in alcohol, robust, malty, and dark.

* Rogue Sommer Orange Honey Ale, USA
An unfiltered medium body ale, with hints of honey and orange, very smooth.

* Samuel Adams Boston Lager, USA
Rocky head, floral hop aroma, definitive Hallertau hop character. Malty body finishes dry and hoppy.

* Samuel Adams Coastal Wheat, USA

* Samuel Adams Cherry Wheat, USA
Unfiltered wheat ale slightly citric tang, with the taste and aroma of fresh cherries. Honey added to balance the fruit. Finished on ale yeast.

* Samuel Adams Noble Pils, USA
American Pils with 5 Noble Hops used in the brewing process. Floral and citrus nose, crisp and clean.

* Sante Fe Nut Brown Ale, USA
A beer that is both flavorful and complex, but at the same time mild enough to be a session beer.

* Sante Fe Pale Ale, USA
Anything but a typical American Pale, Santa Fe Pale Ale is as full bodied as its most robust English counterparts, while asserting its American origin with a healthy nose resplendent with Cascade and Willamette hops. It finishes with a well-balanced combination of the subtle, almost Pilsner-like maltiness accentuated by the German yeast used to brew this Santa Fe classic, and a hop bite sufficient to leave a lingering smile on the face of any fan of American Pale Ales.

* Sapporo Draft, Japan
Very clean light taste. Very spritzy, slight malt character. Fresh, with a little aftertaste.

* Sea Dog Blue Paw Ale, USA
Wheat ale combined with the delightful aromatics and subtle fruit flavor contributed by Maine wild blueberries.

* Sierra Nevada Harvest Pale Ale, USA
Very unique in that the hops are used fresh and not processsed.

* Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, USA
Non-pasteurized, naturally carbonated by cask and bottle conditioning. Assertive hop character lead into rich body and beautiful floral off dry finish.

* Sierra Nevada Seasonal Ale, USA

* Smithwicks Ale, Ireland
An outstanding ale. Very light and fruity with a hint of sweetness.

* Spaten Oktoberfest, Germany
Beautiful brown color and inviting nose. Malty up front with roast and soft fruitiness. Just enough hops to balance; savory finish. Serve with roast chicken, brautworst, or ham hocks.

* Spaten Premium Lager, Germany
Creamy head and round malty nose and body. Very drinkable one after the other. Medium light body with just enough hops to balance.

* Stone Arrogant Bastard Ale, USA
This beer is a celebration of hoppiness.

* Stone India Pale Ale, USA
This beer is far too bitter for most people. Two full weeks of dry hopping gives this beer its abundant hop aroma and crisp hop flavor.

* Stone Smoked Porter, USA
Stone Smoked Porter is dark, rich and complicated. Deep mahogany color, complemented by silky dark tan head.

* Unibroue Ephemere Apple Ephemere, Canada
Apple-Ephemere possesses a fresh apple aroma with reminiscent notes of 'Granny Smith' and 'McIntosh' a subtle flavor of green apple is complemented by delicate notes of fruit and spice topped by a rich white head.

* Unibroue Maudite Ale, Canada
Strong red ale, medium to full bodied. Aroma rich in sandalwood and honey with a fruity flavor.

* Weihenstephan Hefe Weizen, Germany
World's oldest brewery, Classic German Hefe-Wheat beer. Clean and refreshing.

* Weihhenstephan Vitus, Germany
A light-coloured, spicy single-bock wheat beer.

* Young's Double Chocolate Stout, England
Dark stout, almost black. Subtle chocolate nose with a distinctive chocolate flavor.


Ciders & Soda

* Ace Pear Cider, USA
First micro cider mill in California, also sale of the first pear ciders in Californai. Mixes easily or is great on the rocks.

* Magners Cider, Ireland
Magners is Ireland's favorite cider. Clean and powerfully flavored with fresh apples and sweetness.

* BJ's Orange Cream Soda

* Virgil's Root Beer, USA
Virgil's is a 100% natural root beer made with no artificial ingredients or preservatives and has no caffeine! Virgil's is also gluten free.




Wine List

* Riunite White Lambrusco - Italian

* Riunite Raspberry

* Banfi Le Rime Pinot Grigio

* Gala Rouge Pinot Noir - French

* Trivento Malbec - Argentina

* McWilliams Riesling - Australian

* Tapena Tempranillo - Spain

* Schmitt Sohne Relax Reisling - German

* Little Black Dress Chardonnay - USA

* Mirassou Sun Merlot

* Bogle Zinfandel

* Matua S Blanc - New Zealand

* Ozeki Sake - Japan

downingthief
03-15-2011, 02:58 PM
World Fest this weekend at Heritage Square, including World of Beers if anyone is interested. I'm thinking about checking it out after work on Friday. It's pretty cool because there's no entry fee and you pay per sample.

https://www.phoenixsistercities.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31&Itemid=42

Drrrrroooooooollll

captncrzy
03-15-2011, 03:03 PM
Rick and I went to that last year; it was fun enough. They have a Spicy Pie stand there.

That A1 brewery began in Phoenix in starting in the early 30's. My grandfather worked there for 20 years or so in the mid 40's to the mid 60's.

He was a drunk, of course.

westcoastpirate
03-15-2011, 03:23 PM
Rick and I went to that last year; it was fun enough. They have a Spicy Pie stand there.

That A1 brewery began in Phoenix in starting in the early 30's. My grandfather worked there for 20 years or so in the mid 40's to the mid 60's.

He was a drunk, of course.

I know you're totally there...


* Franziskaner Hefeweiss Light, Germany
Clovey nose, high carbonation and medium tangy spicy body. Yeast present in nose and flavor. Long spicy finish.

Mr. Dylanja
03-15-2011, 03:27 PM
Has everyone been enjoying the weather? It's been great.