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I.F.A.
11-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Haven't voted yet, because I ended up having to spend the day in court. I'm hoping I can make it to my polling place in time after work.

In better news, I am now the proud owner of a shiny new restraining order.

TomAz
11-02-2010, 03:33 PM
Which board member is stalking you?

I.F.A.
11-02-2010, 03:34 PM
It's against my soon-to-be-ex husband.

TomAz
11-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Which board member is he?

I.F.A.
11-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Not on the board that I know of. Though he has been e-stalking me, so who knows?

TomAz
11-02-2010, 03:41 PM
Well I am sorry you are going through that.

Mr. Dylanja
11-02-2010, 03:41 PM
Does "e-stalking" involve rolling and patrolling?

I.F.A.
11-02-2010, 03:46 PM
Thanks, Tom.

Dylan - uh, I guess? I actually have no idea what that means.

M Sparks
11-02-2010, 04:09 PM
Can you get a restraining order against passive aggressive texts regarding bank accounts and vet records? Because I want one of those.

downingthief
11-02-2010, 07:54 PM
I lol'd.

locachica73
11-03-2010, 06:53 AM
Can you get a restraining order against passive aggressive texts regarding bank accounts and vet records? Because I want one of those.

I use to get these from my ex husbands new girlfriend. I changed my number.

westcoastpirate
11-03-2010, 03:34 PM
The internet. although on the water commission my wife did most of that research.

Dude, this is crazy...
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/ArizonaElections/106039


The aborted raid on Arizona's water future

If you care about our long-term access to Colorado River water, there's good news. A raid on the CAP board failed to put a majority in the hands of a myopic crew obsessed with cost cutting. The slate of strip-government-to-the-bones candidates was running for five seats on the 15-member governing board of the Central Arizona Water Conservation District. With the exception of incumbent Lewis, they were long on ideology and short on any knowledge of water issues.

In an ironic twist, presumably unintentional, current board member Jean McGrath sent an e-mail urging voters to pick the right small-government candidates by using the acronym: MR. LBJ. President LBJ, of course, saw lot more than a minimal role for government in creating his vision of the Great Society.

Two of the raiders, Lewis and Cynthia Moulton, a nurse who handled a rehabilitation center, were elected. But voters also picked three thoroughly qualified candidates who understand the long-range measures necessary to ensure our water supplies: former Phoenix city manager Frank Fairbanks, current board member and water consultant Tim Bray and Jim Holway, a former assistant director of the Department of Water Resources.

Kathleen Ingley is an editorial writer for The Arizona Republic.

sin213
11-03-2010, 04:28 PM
i can't understand how so many of the GOP got elected. are people really that stupid that they think the Dems could clean up the "W" mess, that he took 8 years to create, in under 4 years??? guess this further proves that fear sways and rules all...

faxman75
11-04-2010, 07:09 AM
Medical Marijuana failed by less than 7,000 votes. Slacker ass stoners who didn't vote :nono

downingthief
11-04-2010, 08:20 AM
i can't understand how so many of the GOP got elected. are people really that stupid that they think the Dems could clean up the "W" mess, that he took 8 years to create, in under 4 years??? guess this further proves that fear sways and rules all...

Unfortunately, I am not surprised. Despite some of the gains, we still live in a very conservative state.

I agree that the hypocrisy of it all is insane.

sin213
11-04-2010, 08:41 AM
Medical Marijuana failed by less than 7,000 votes. Slacker ass stoners who didn't vote :nono

there was a vote for this? j/k

yeah, its sad it failed by such a small margin...though i can't see a program like that going over well in arpaio's territory...they'd be selling out the dispensery's and coordinating with the Feds all the time.

captncrzy
11-04-2010, 08:42 AM
Medical MJ would have passed had the stoners banded together and put some money into the campaign. It passed once before, after all.

downingthief
11-04-2010, 08:44 AM
Medical MJ would have passed had the stoners banded together and put some money into the campaign. It passed once before, after all.

Yes, it did. Makes me wonder if this one had passed...would it not have been overturned like last time?

sin213
11-04-2010, 08:46 AM
yeah, i can't see this red state allowing something like that to pass. they'd find someway to overturn it, delay it indefinitely, or like i said...coordinate with the Feds all the time to the point where its too costly and dangerous to run a dispensery, even if it should be allowed under State law.

downingthief
11-04-2010, 08:47 AM
The funny thing is, I know plenty of Conservatives that are in favor of legalization.

chairmenmeow47
11-04-2010, 09:25 AM
super, duper busy.

but wanted to check-in about saturday. i had called pizzeria bianco after it was suggested, but they are booked through november.

where would becca like to eat on saturday after the improv?

mexican? pizza? burgers? something else?

pick a place and i will be there. the improv is in tempe right? four peaks maybe? let's decide.

downingthief
11-04-2010, 09:29 AM
Somewhere with beer. :)

ivankay
11-04-2010, 09:31 AM
^^^^Hey, i'm still gonna be in town on Saturday and eating seems like a good thing.

And speaking of the MJ, if you see an out of state brother who is flying in like me that needs to be hooked up (after picture taking reponsibilities are secure), let me know.

rskapcat
11-04-2010, 09:43 AM
Andy & I will be eating pre-improv...we should be out of there around 9:30. You guys figure out the best place to meet up, & we're there. :)

faxman75
11-04-2010, 09:51 AM
The initiative in 2000 failed. The initiative in 1998 passed but had a "drafting error", whatever that means and in 1996 it passed but the legislature overturned it.

eta: funny this was sitting minimized when the conversation was still relevant and I clicked submit and see all you fine out of staters.

Michael, i'll be in Tucson for the weekend seeing Joanna Newsom and Calexico otherwise I would hook a brutha up.

Becca, i'm disappointed I won't get to hang out with you guys but have fun!

drugks Gillespie
11-04-2010, 10:05 AM
We still have 300,000 provisional and early ballots to count. It could take 10 days. 203 can still pass.

drugks Gillespie
11-04-2010, 10:10 AM
Anyone want to buy 2 tickets for Emotive? I'll be at the Marquee tonight.

ivankay
11-04-2010, 10:23 AM
Michael, i'll be in Tucson for the weekend seeing Joanna Newsom and Calexico otherwise I would hook a brutha up.



Danke. The thought is appreciated.

M Sparks
11-04-2010, 10:25 AM
I won't be able to go out Saturday, but I'll see you lovely people on Friday...

faxman75
11-04-2010, 10:27 AM
We still have 300,000 provisional and early ballots to count. It could take 10 days. 203 can still pass.

Good point drugks. I thought it was over when I saw 100% reporting.

3 props are still too close to call and that includes 203.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2010/11/04/20101104arizona-propositions-final-results.html

faxman75
11-04-2010, 10:28 AM
Friday night i'm going to Fibber Magees in Chandler to welcome a friend back to town.

Mr. Dylanja
11-04-2010, 10:29 AM
Becka, i'm disappointed I won't get to hang out with you guys but have fun!

:nono


Becca, I'm hosting some out of town guests this weekend or I would've liked to hang out. I'm long overdue for a hug and pancake :)

chairmenmeow47
11-04-2010, 11:45 AM
mike, i'd direct you to someone else or i'd help as well.

Mr. Dylanja
11-04-2010, 11:49 AM
You can't outflake a flake, Ivysaur!

chairmenmeow47
11-05-2010, 07:53 AM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

it's a nice day to, START AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN!

can't wait for tonight! i've already blocked off my calendar, so no one better try to keep me after 4. i will also be picking up lilia on my way. thankfully she's staying close to me :)

also, i'm a tard and forgot to bring the address with me to work. can someone PM me the address if they happen to have it so i can look it up and print a map?

captncrzy
11-05-2010, 07:57 AM
NW Corner of Hayden/Shea. Starfire Golf Club. Entrance is about two blocks north of Shea on Hayden.

downingthief
11-05-2010, 07:57 AM
Have fun tonight, peeps!

What is the plan for Saturday?

Aphxtwinin
11-05-2010, 07:57 AM
Medical Marijuana failed by less than 7,000 votes. Slacker ass stoners who didn't vote :nono

i was coming in here to ask about this, poop for a no go....surprising though, id imagine people would vote for it just to possibly lower the drug smuggling...i dunno anything about Arizona state politics so dont flambι me

downingthief
11-05-2010, 07:58 AM
NW Corner of Hayden/Shea. Starfire Golf Club. Entrance is about two blocks north of Shea on Hayden.

Hope your day is wonderful! Congrats again to you both!

chairmenmeow47
11-05-2010, 08:01 AM
NW Corner of Hayden/Shea. Starfire Golf Club. Entrance is about two blocks north of Shea on Hayden.

thanks :)


What is the plan for Saturday?

i'm making an executive decision of four peaks at 9:30pm, after becca gets done with the improv. if mike, or anyone else who's in town, wants to meet earlier, lemme know. y'all should have my number by now. my only plan saturday is to go to an mp3 swap in the afternoon.

four peaks (http://www.fourpeaks.com/) (their website has gone weird)
1340 E. 8th Street, #104 Tempe, AZ 85281 (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&q=1340+E.+8th+Street,+%23104+Tempe,+AZ+85281&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1340+E+8th+St,+Tempe,+Maricopa,+Arizona+8528 1&gl=us&ei=2DOPTLqsCY24sAPAnO2xDg&ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA&t=h&z=16)

FYI, parking sucks there, just park where you can.

locachica73
11-05-2010, 08:05 AM
Congratulations to Jen & Rick, I hope you have a beautiful day with as little stress as humanly possible. Enjoy!!! :)

I might come out for drinks tomorrow. I don't usually check this site over the weekend so if someone could shoot me a text and let me know if time/location changes that would be great. :)

chairmenmeow47
11-05-2010, 08:08 AM
roger roger

downingthief
11-05-2010, 08:11 AM
thanks :)



i'm making an executive decision of four peaks at 9:30pm, after becca gets done with the improv. if mike, or anyone else who's in town, wants to meet earlier, lemme know. y'all should have my number by now. my only plan saturday is to go to an mp3 swap in the afternoon.

We should try and get a table before then, since it is usually crazy busy on weekends.

chairmenmeow47
11-05-2010, 08:14 AM
that is fine with me! you want to meet me early, sean? maybe like 8:30 or 9? maybe who all might come?


ivysaur
ivysaur's beau (maybe)
becca
andy
sean
audra (maybe)
mike


anyone else?

M Sparks
11-05-2010, 08:27 AM
I'll be there tomorrow if my date goes horribly horribly wrong, which is always a possibility.

I'm bummed I will be late for the wedding...see you all about 7: 15

chairmenmeow47
11-05-2010, 08:29 AM
I'll be there tomorrow if my date goes horribly horribly wrong, which is always a possibility.

I'm bummed I will be late for the wedding...see you all about 7: 15

ahhh, that sucks. i was worried i'd have to be late too, but thankfully i don't have any afternoon meetings so i am leaving early whether people like it or not.

i hope your date doesn't go wrong, but if so, we'd love you to join us :)

captncrzy
11-05-2010, 08:38 AM
I'll be there tomorrow if my date goes horribly horribly wrong, which is always a possibility.

I'm bummed I will be late for the wedding...see you all about 7: 15

booooo hisssssss

I see how you are...showing up for the free drinks.

downingthief
11-05-2010, 08:41 AM
that is fine with me! you want to meet me early, sean? maybe like 8:30 or 9? maybe who all might come?


ivysaur
ivysaur's beau (maybe)
becca
andy
sean
audra (maybe)
mike


anyone else?

Sounds good to me!

ivankay
11-05-2010, 08:44 AM
yay. Saturday socializing. Looking forward to my first time in Phoenix and beyond.

Currently dealing with a flight delay and somewhat responsible for one of Jen's heart attacks.

westcoastpirate
11-05-2010, 09:32 AM
Leaving work in 1.5 hours, see you guys tonight at the wedding.

M Sparks
11-05-2010, 10:27 AM
booooo hisssssss

I see how you are...showing up for the free drinks.

I already told you my plan on Facebook...stumble around drunkenly screaming. "Look at me! This is your future!"

Seriously though, I have to get up at 6, I won't be the one breaking your booze budget.

downingthief
11-05-2010, 10:42 AM
I already told you my plan on Facebook...stumble around drunkenly screaming. "Look at me! This is your future!"

Seriously though, I have to get up at 6, I won't be the one breaking your booze budget.

I must see pics of your drunkenness. I would be right there with you. :p

NachoCat
11-05-2010, 11:07 AM
I already told you my plan on Facebook...stumble around drunkenly screaming. "Look at me! This is your future!"



This got a LOL , for real this time

Mr. Dylanja
11-05-2010, 01:07 PM
I'd like to congratulate Rick and Jen, not only for getting married, but for having the wedding at a perfect time of year from a weather standpoint. I've been to so many wedding where it's hot as hell here, good work guys.

NachoCat
11-05-2010, 02:54 PM
Speaking of good weather. First friday tonight ... heading down there about 730

PotVsKtl
11-08-2010, 12:12 PM
What in the fuck is wrong with you people?

http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/2010/11/07/20101107tea-party-trash-fountain-hills.html#ixzz14i7fvBOK

downingthief
11-08-2010, 12:27 PM
Ask Tom. That is his 'hood.

TomAz
11-08-2010, 01:47 PM
reaction points.

1. The article is wrong in one respect, I have curbside recycling.

2. I kind of like being able to choose my trash hauler. I got ticked at Waste Management Inc for shitty service, fired them and hired a small local company and have been happier with the service.

3. But, if the Town Council thinks going with one contract works better, that's ok.

4. The Tea Partiers are just a bunch of loudmouth rabid dogs. No one I know, Republican or Democrat, takes them seriously. Well, I mean, no one takes their ideology seriously. Political clout, yeah, something to deal with.

5. FH is a town of only about 20,000 and yet has two different, rival Tea Party factions who are constantly at war with each other. It's amusing.

6. FH is so beautiful I have no regrets living here.

J~$$$$
11-08-2010, 02:02 PM
Do your servants also recycle your lawn trimmings?

TomAz
11-08-2010, 02:06 PM
They've all moved away since 1070 passed.

TomAz
11-08-2010, 02:12 PM
But seriously pot there's lots worst stuff to wonder about these people than garbage collection. Like, hey, let's do away with Medicaid!

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2010/11/08/20101108mon1-08.html

faxman75
11-08-2010, 02:29 PM
If people want medical insurance they should start getting medical degrees. It's not the governments job to take care of you. It's their job to get elected and rile the populace into a frenzy over minorities.

PotVsKtl
11-08-2010, 02:44 PM
But seriously pot there's lots worst stuff to wonder about these people than garbage collection. Like, hey, let's do away with Medicaid!

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2010/11/08/20101108mon1-08.html

At least cutting Medicaid makes sense in their weird little ideology. Opposing the cost-cutting move of deciding on a single trash collector for a town is just whimsically dumb.

bballarl
11-08-2010, 04:14 PM
Someday I will come to Phoenix and try Pizzeria Bianco. Someday.

downingthief
11-08-2010, 07:53 PM
Promises, promises.

chairmenmeow47
11-09-2010, 07:28 AM
well make your reservations at least a month in advance. i need to just reserve something far in the future and make it happen.

locachica73
11-09-2010, 07:31 AM
Has anyone ever been to a bar in Scottsdale called Pranksters Gar & Brill? Apparently there is one in Tempe as well. Any good? The website looks pretty cool, they have volleyball courts and everything. But I have never heard of it, and I thought I had been to pretty much every bar in the valley.

NachoCat
11-09-2010, 07:36 AM
Ive been to the one in tempe. Cool little dive bar. Really cheap drinks and average bar food. all the signs are upside down and random artifacts n stuff all over. Hence the name pranksters. I give it a 7/10 for a dive

locachica73
11-09-2010, 07:43 AM
You had me at really cheap drinks... If anyone is free this Saturday night I am going to be at the one in Scottsdale (Hayden & Thomas) to see a local band named The Wankers. I haven't heard them before but the lead singer is also the lead singer to the local cover band I use to follow around called nineball. He said this is a heavier version of that band and they will be covering some Tool songs. Whoot.

M Sparks
11-09-2010, 09:45 AM
Someone asked me to go to Pranksters a week or two ago. Apparently I said no, because I've never been.

There is a place way out in Mesa called The Monastery with volleyball courts. I wanna say it's near Greenfield and McKellips.

I.F.A.
11-09-2010, 09:46 AM
Someone asked me to go to Pranksters a week or two ago. Apparently I said no, because I've never been.

There is a place way out in Mesa called The Monastery with volleyball courts. I wanna say it's near Greenfield and McKellips.

There's also a Monastery on the Westside. I haven't been in years, but it's kind of cool - they have grills where you can grill your own hamburgers and things.

NachoCat
11-09-2010, 10:07 AM
There's also a Monastery on the Westside. I haven't been in years, but it's kind of cool - they have grills where you can grill your own hamburgers and things.

I believe that place is now Salty's. The one on 83rd, right near the basball field? Same setup though. I havnt been there in forever but i liked the place. huge outside patio area and Volleyball courts. Corn-hole game as well. fun place.

locachica73
11-09-2010, 10:09 AM
Nick and I are corn-hole champions. We even have a trophy. Funny, I am only good at games that involve drinking.

chairmenmeow47
11-09-2010, 10:41 AM
scott is correct, monastery is gone and replaced by salty's. i almost went to a margarita making class there recently.

I.F.A.
11-09-2010, 11:20 AM
Ahhh, okay. It's been a long time since I was even in that area. I didn't realize that it was replaced!

NachoCat
11-09-2010, 12:11 PM
Nick and I are corn-hole champions. We even have a trophy .

Is this a Challange?

locachica73
11-09-2010, 12:19 PM
Is this a Challange?

I believe it might be. :)

faxman75
11-10-2010, 06:00 AM
The marijuana initiative still hasn't lost. It's getting closer. Currently it's losing by about 3500 hundred votes with 90,000+ votes still to count.

locachica73
11-10-2010, 06:02 AM
I saw that on the news last night, and I believe I read somewhere that if it finishes with only a 1% margin going either way they will have to do a recount? Or something like that. So it might be awhile before we know. Here's to hoping.

TomAz
11-10-2010, 06:09 AM
Nick and I are corn-hole champions.

Umm.

locachica73
11-10-2010, 06:13 AM
Umm.

LOL, yeah, I didn't even consider that it might be taken the wrong way. I was a little out of it yesterday. We are champions at throwing bean bags at little holes across a bar patio. Does that sound better?

M Sparks
11-10-2010, 06:22 AM
We are champions at throwing bean bags at little holes across a bar patio. Does that sound better?

Worse, actually.

locachica73
11-10-2010, 06:23 AM
There is an option C but I will keep it to myself. :p

M Sparks
11-10-2010, 03:24 PM
OK, the Sunday after Thanksgiving is still a possibility for a party...only John has given that a thumbs down. But since Ivy's Disneyland trip is canceled, she suggested we do something that weekend- Saturday, Dec 11th. I already had the day off for the trip, so it's the only time I can do a Saturday party properly. There aren't really any good shows that day in town that I can see. And I can take the money saved on this trip and get the patio outfitted properly. Rock Band, hot tub, good beer, margs, grilling...who's in?

I still might do an open house or something on that Sunday for my "old" friends, any of you are welcome to drop by that too, but the real party will be on Dec 11th unless someone gives me a good reason not to.

locachica73
11-11-2010, 05:40 AM
I have nothing going on that weekend, count us in. :)

Is anyone sticking around for Thanksgiving weekend? Anything exciting happening? Nick will be out of town for his brothers wedding and I am trying to find ways to entertain myself so the crazy doesn't take over.

I.F.A.
11-11-2010, 07:35 AM
That weekend works for me. I'm in!

M Sparks
11-11-2010, 09:18 AM
I'll be around thanksgiving weekend, but working fri and sat.

chairmenmeow47
11-11-2010, 09:42 AM
i just got an invite to a potluck that night too. and i was going to call at 4pm today to try to do a reservation at pizzaria bianco that night, but your party sounds like a better option than all of those things so i will be there :)

let me know if you need me to bring anything for rock band, or anything else for that matter!

and i'm not sure about thanksgiving yet. i mean, i'll be here, but i may go up north or something, dunno yet.

Mr. Dylanja
11-11-2010, 09:49 AM
Howzabout this weather?

locachica73
11-11-2010, 09:52 AM
Sweater Weather!!!!! I love it!!!

TomAz
11-11-2010, 10:53 AM
my office is too cold and it is pissing me off.

locachica73
11-11-2010, 11:09 AM
I am wearing a hoody sweatshirt and the only part of me that is cold is the hand that moves my mouse. Why do they have to keep offices so fucking cold?

amyzzz
11-11-2010, 11:10 AM
Fingerless gloves, Audra.

TomAz
11-11-2010, 11:31 AM
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/818b4651-38f3-4b13-8452-b0f207eb5daa.jpg

sin213
11-11-2010, 11:39 AM
the weather is perfect. you guys just need to quit whinin. my house has been a comfortable 65-70 degrees the last few days or so and its the bestest!

i always laugh at how arizonians bust out the snow jackets as soon as the weather dips below 75 degrees. crazy.

faxman75
11-11-2010, 12:22 PM
I sleep with my window cracked open at night for some cool air. It's awesome and the daytime is simply perfect!

GeezrRckr
11-12-2010, 09:01 AM
i'm sure guys have seen this one, but i thought i'd post it anyway. cracked me up.

http://mgleim.com/apology/comics/2006-05-07.jpg

NachoCat
11-12-2010, 09:13 AM
http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickencactus.jpg

Gribbz
11-12-2010, 01:30 PM
Prop. 203: Provisional ballots leaning toward AZ marijuana measure



PHOENIX - Maricopa County will continue counting outstanding provisional ballots through the weekend if necessary despite a state law that generally says all counting must be completed by Friday.

The votes could sway the outcome of a statewide medical marijuana initiative that is failing by a tiny margin of the 1.63 million votes counted since the Nov. 2 general election.

Votes posted late Thursday showed the measure trailing by just 1,457 votes, a pickup of more than 1,500 yes votes for the day.

Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell told the Associated Press on Friday that provisional ballots counted the previous day were leaning in favor of the measure. Such ballots tend to be from less-conservative voters.

Proposition 203 would allow use of the drug only for serious diseases including cancer.





http://azstarnet.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_85fc9590-ee9b-11df-94b4-001cc4c03286.html

Hannahrain
11-12-2010, 01:31 PM
cc4c03286

Wait.

faxman75
11-12-2010, 01:39 PM
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_85fc9590-ee9b-11df-94b4-001cc4c03286.html

This thing is going to pass under the radar...sweet.

drugks Gillespie
11-13-2010, 01:34 AM
Medical marijuana has passed:dumbo

drugks Gillespie
11-13-2010, 01:35 AM
Can't wait for those edibles.

sin213
11-13-2010, 09:01 AM
nice. lets see if it actually goes into effect. it's only passed twice before only to be squashed for some reason.

Somewhat Damaged
11-13-2010, 11:37 AM
drugks Gillespie, didn't you come on the board a couple years back asking for a lawyer because you got yourself into some sort of trouble? Care to divulge what that was now that we can look back on it and laugh?

faxman75
11-13-2010, 04:28 PM
Medical marijuana has passed:dumbo

What a comeback.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PoliticalInsider/106835

Geno_g
11-13-2010, 04:35 PM
Nice! Great news....

Somewhat Damaged
11-13-2010, 08:14 PM
OK, the Sunday after Thanksgiving is still a possibility for a party...only John has given that a thumbs down. But since Ivy's Disneyland trip is canceled, she suggested we do something that weekend- Saturday, Dec 11th. I already had the day off for the trip, so it's the only time I can do a Saturday party properly. There aren't really any good shows that day in town that I can see. And I can take the money saved on this trip and get the patio outfitted properly. Rock Band, hot tub, good beer, margs, grilling...who's in?

I still might do an open house or something on that Sunday for my "old" friends, any of you are welcome to drop by that too, but the real party will be on Dec 11th unless someone gives me a good reason not to.

11/11 would be great for us and we'd probably be interested for "an open house or something" the Sunday after Thanksgiving, too.

drugks Gillespie
11-13-2010, 10:15 PM
What a comeback.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PoliticalInsider/106835

It was definitely some 4th quarter shit.

drugks Gillespie
11-14-2010, 07:06 AM
drugks Gillespie, didn't you come on the board a couple years back asking for a lawyer because you got yourself into some sort of trouble? Care to divulge what that was now that we can look back on it and laugh?



Two weeks before Coachella 2008 I was arrested with my now fiance in our home. They had come to serve a bench warrant she was ignorant of. A year and a half earlier she was pulled over and caught with a quarter of bud and a pipe. She cried, he took her shit, and let her go without any paperwork. I think this was on Thanksgiving night. I figured he had cut her a break because of the holiday and she's a cute chick. Time passes, no letter. We move in together.

At some point they send an order to appear under the charges to her old address, it gets returned, warrant issued. They came to our condo just before sunrise, lots of cops and a US marshal, to clear a warrant on a 23 year old girl for personal possession of pot. At least they knocked (beat the shit out of the door) as it was only a bench (not a search) warrant. In my dreary state of panic and confusion I made a feeble attempt to hide one or to things, but we kept a lot of worked glass pieces around, bubblers and what have you. When I finally opened the door I was "asked" to step outside. They asked who was on the lease, as soon as I said we both were they went in and nearly shot her because she was in the walk in closet trying to put clothes on.

Before I know it, "There are lots of goodies in there" I hear one of them say. I'm starting to wake up now realize the gravity of what is happening. They tear the place apart. They find bongs, pipes, herb, and 2 oz of the largest stems and caps that they have ever seen. I'm booked and OR'd. I bail her out for $900.

I find the right lawyer, a certified specialist in criminal law with the highest peer rating, whose office is across the street from the courthouse. He lives there. He was worth every penny. I did a year of task, 6 mos of weekly substance abuse, and 48 fucking AA meetings. Tasc cost me almost 3k. My color was 2-3 times a week for 3 months. All said and done we got a total of 8 felonies dismissed at a total cost of about $15,000.00. Dismissed without prejudice. Tasc is a joke. AA meetings for mushrooms? Whatever. Very expensive lessons learned.

Somewhat Damaged
11-14-2010, 07:29 AM
Damn. Thanks for sharing. If I ever know anybody who gets into any sort of drug trouble, I'm sending them to your lawyer! And yeah, AA meetings for mushrooms sounds pretty stupid. Was it 48 meetings in 48 days or spread out over a year's time? What's Tasc? And I'm assuming "color" is piss tests?

captncrzy
11-15-2010, 06:27 AM
So this place is opening up in Scottsdale (I guess one is in Surprise already); it's basically exactly like the theater we went to in London.

http://www.ultrastarmovies.com/

One in London had a full bar tho. This one seems to have some sort of 21 and over area where you can get beer and wine.

chairmenmeow47
11-15-2010, 07:28 AM
So this place is opening up in Scottsdale (I guess one is in Surprise already); it's basically exactly like the theater we went to in London.

http://www.ultrastarmovies.com/

One in London had a full bar tho. This one seems to have some sort of 21 and over area where you can get beer and wine.

i got all excited, clicked the link, and saw they are showing the entire twilight saga. toy story, karate kid, and iron man 2. lame.

Mr. Dylanja
11-15-2010, 07:55 AM
Another option (http://www.farrellis.com/)

chairmenmeow47
11-15-2010, 07:59 AM
Another option (http://www.farrellis.com/)

that is pretty cool!

faxman75
11-15-2010, 08:02 AM
I'm still waiting for a brew & view. Not a fancy theater with fine spirits a supper and classic movies but a dive with 2nd run flicks and cult classics that serves PBR and cocktails to the folks who are looking for more of a social movie experience with some community laughter and chatter while watching.

$5 triple features and drink specails!

http://www.brewview.com/

captncrzy
11-15-2010, 09:37 AM
Wasn't an arthouse theater with a full bar supposed to open downtown this fall? Like The Loft in Tucson?

I.F.A.
11-15-2010, 09:58 AM
Wasn't an arthouse theater with a full bar supposed to open downtown this fall? Like The Loft in Tucson?

Yes, called FilmBar - It's supposed to be opening in December.

downingthief
11-15-2010, 09:59 AM
That has Coachella board meet up all over it...

westcoastpirate
11-15-2010, 10:00 AM
that is pretty cool!

I went to Farelli's with my Mom for Mother's Day a few years ago. It was pretty cool. I like Faxman's idea a lot better.

faxman75
11-15-2010, 10:01 AM
According to their twitter...


Sorry to say our opening date is now late Dec or early Jan. The process is taking longer than expected. Hang in there! We're coming!
7:46 AM Nov 5th via Twitter for Android

BROKENDOLL
11-15-2010, 10:47 AM
Two weeks before Coachella 2008 I was arrested with my now fiance in our home. They had come to serve a bench warrant she was ignorant of. A year and a half earlier she was pulled over and caught with a quarter of bud and a pipe. She cried, he took her shit, and let her go without any paperwork. I think this was on Thanksgiving night. I figured he had cut her a break because of the holiday and she's a cute chick. Time passes, no letter. We move in together.

At some point they send an order to appear under the charges to her old address, it gets returned, warrant issued. They came to our condo just before sunrise, lots of cops and a US marshal, to clear a warrant on a 23 year old girl for personal possession of pot. At least they knocked (beat the shit out of the door) as it was only a bench (not a search) warrant. In my dreary state of panic and confusion I made a feeble attempt to hide one or to things, but we kept a lot of worked glass pieces around, bubblers and what have you. When I finally opened the door I was "asked" to step outside. They asked who was on the lease, as soon as I said we both were they went in and nearly shot her because she was in the walk in closet trying to put clothes on.

Before I know it, "There are lots of goodies in there" I hear one of them say. I'm starting to wake up now realize the gravity of what is happening. They tear the place apart. They find bongs, pipes, herb, and 2 oz of the largest stems and caps that they have ever seen. I'm booked and OR'd. I bail her out for $900.

I find the right lawyer, a certified specialist in criminal law with the highest peer rating, whose office is across the street from the courthouse. He lives there. He was worth every penny. I did a year of task, 6 mos of weekly substance abuse, and 48 fucking AA meetings. Tasc cost me almost 3k. My color was 2-3 times a week for 3 months. All said and done we got a total of 8 felonies dismissed at a total cost of about $15,000.00. Dismissed without prejudice. Tasc is a joke. AA meetings for mushrooms? Whatever. Very expensive lessons learned.
God, I'll say! I mean, I can understand the expences for whatever happened after they came in the door, but I'm confused as to how they were able to come to the door in the first place if she was given no paperwork the night she got pulled over. She was totally unaware of the warrant because she never thought there were any charges due to no paper work? Something ain't right there, and sorry it lead to such an expensive lesson...

amyzzz
11-15-2010, 10:52 AM
Whoa, I feel for you, drugks Gillespie. The drug laws in this state are beyond draconian.

TomAz
11-15-2010, 11:10 AM
shut the fuck up, amy.

I.F.A.
11-15-2010, 11:14 AM
That has Coachella board meet up all over it...

DEFINITELY

captncrzy
11-18-2010, 02:18 PM
I had to drive down Mill today (which I avoid doing with great care) and noticed that:

The Library has changed into Blondies that is now open, there is a Kampai Sushi and Wine Bar that is now open, Divertis Bar and Grill has taken over that place at the end of Mill that was something called Suckerpunch Diner, there's a gourmet popcorn place now, they are opening up a Mellow Mushoom Pizza place (I'm very excited for this place; 100 beers--48 on tap) and a School of Rock (replacing the Cherry Pit lounge--formerly known as Club UM for us old-timers).

Some new good pre-Marquee places to go!

mountmccabe
11-18-2010, 06:20 PM
I have friends that meet at a Mellow Mushroom at Happy Valley for happy hours and yeah, their beer selection (and prices during happy hour!) is fantastic. I rather liked their pizza, I had the Fun Guy Pie (or whatever) with five types of mushroom.

Somewhat Damaged
11-18-2010, 06:50 PM
Post-Thanksgiving meet-up for those of us who have to work on Black Friday?

Mr. Dylanja
11-18-2010, 07:17 PM
What part of town do you work in, Rick, Tempe?

Somewhat Damaged
11-18-2010, 08:22 PM
Chandler actually.

meowlouder
11-18-2010, 09:07 PM
Phoenix? That place is cuhrazy

locachica73
11-19-2010, 05:43 AM
I might be up for a post thanksgiving meet up. I have a dinner to go to that night but could go for a few drinks pre-dinner. It will be a family type dinner with babies so a drink will be necessary.

captncrzy
11-19-2010, 06:20 AM
I'm down. I have to work too, even though I'll probably be off early. Any suggestions?

J~$$$$
11-19-2010, 07:03 AM
Do you all have dispensaries popping up all over the place yet?

locachica73
11-19-2010, 07:05 AM
Every article I have read says plans and dispensaries won't be ready till summer sometime.

J~$$$$
11-19-2010, 07:11 AM
If you want to make money be on it first.

locachica73
11-19-2010, 07:14 AM
Well according to the articles I have read it will only be available to people with cancer and other horrible things. If that is the case I probably won't get a card and just continue going through my regular guy. But if they broaden it and if my CVS is covered like it would be in CA then I am in. I need to find a list of what it covers and see if I can come down with something non life threatening real quick.

Somewhat Damaged
11-19-2010, 07:50 AM
RE: meet-up, I was thinking some of those locations you were talking about on/around Mill in your previous post, Jen. Is Mellow Mushroom already open or not yet? If not, where is Happy Valley and would that one be a viable option?

sin213
11-19-2010, 07:56 AM
Every article I have read says plans and dispensaries won't be ready till summer sometime.

i've heard the same thing. doctors, however, can start recommending people for cards as of April, i believe.

captncrzy
11-19-2010, 08:06 AM
Mushroom won't be open till next year and Happy Valley is WAAAY the fuck out north. I vote for someplace downtown that we always talk about going to but never do.........The Main Ingredient Ale House

locachica73
11-19-2010, 08:12 AM
It has Ale house in the name.... I'm in. :)

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 08:25 AM
i don't have to work friday, but may be down for a meet-up. keep me in the maybe pile and i'll go wherever.

and i know people who want to grow lol.

faxman75
11-19-2010, 08:27 AM
Well according to the articles I have read it will only be available to people with cancer and other horrible things. If that is the case I probably won't get a card and just continue going through my regular guy. But if they broaden it and if my CVS is covered like it would be in CA then I am in. I need to find a list of what it covers and see if I can come down with something non life threatening real quick.

Here's an article about the first one.

http://www.statepress.com/2010/11/17/businesses-react-to-nearby-medical-pot-dispensary/


This site is also full of information. I'm not sure where you heard only cancer and other horrible things but the list is fairly inclusive. Severe and Chronic pain is the going to be the easiest. I've had neck pain for 15 years from a car accident. I've been considering a doctors visit soon to discuss the benefits of a prescription to help me sleep better at night.

Cancer
Glaucoma
HIV/AIDS
Hepatitis C
ALS
Crohn’s disease
Alzheimer’s
Cachexia or wasting syndrome
Severe and chronic pain
Severe nausea
Seizures (including epilepsy)
Severe or persistent muscle spasms (including multiple sclerosis)

http://www.medicalmarijuanablog.com/news/get-a-marijuana-card-in-arizona-173.html

Finally, a time table and they are going to have tight restrictions and rules however, I don't see how they can remove parts of the bill that have passed like a valid diagnosis. They are in the process of drafting rules.

Timetable for the Introduction of Medical Marijuana Registration in Arizona

December 17, 2010: ADHS posts an initial informal draft of the Rules
December 17, 2010 – January 7, 2011: ADHS receives informal (electronic) public comment on the initial informal draft rules
January 31, 2011: ADHS posts official draft Rules for public comment
January 31, 2011 – February 18, 2011: ADHS receive public comment on a revised draft of the Rules
February 15 – 17, 2011: ADHS holds 3 public meetings about the draft Rules:
Phoenix: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 at 1:00 pm, 250 N 17th Ave
Tucson: Wednesday, February, 16, 2011 at 1:00 pm, 400 W. Congress, Room 222
Phoenix: Thursday, February 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm, 250 N 17th Ave
March 28, 2011: ADHS publishes the final Rules that will be used to implement the Act
April 2011: ADHS begins to accept applications for registry identification cards and for dispensary certificates

locachica73
11-19-2010, 08:29 AM
I have never been able to keep plants alive, even when I lived in Oregon where everything grew. I have a black thumb or something. My mother on the other hand can make anything grow.

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 08:30 AM
wasting syndrome

...the hell? is that anything like the wasted syndrome i've had after a couple bottles of wine the past few nights?

Mr. Dylanja
11-19-2010, 08:30 AM
Do they have to call it "chronic" pain? It should be severe pain and chronic relief.

M Sparks
11-19-2010, 08:31 AM
Main ingredient is awesome, and I will probably be hanging out by myself on Tg. I'm going to see my parents on wednesday, but coming back early.

faxman75
11-19-2010, 08:32 AM
Oh and this site is going to be handy in the future. There will apparently be delivery services too which is pretty cool. It's going to keep a list of dispenseries , doctors and attorneys.

http://azmarijuana.com/

Mr. Dylanja
11-19-2010, 08:33 AM
Who's going to the roots tomorrow? I'll be the guy in the pink polo with the gel'd hair.

captncrzy
11-19-2010, 08:35 AM
Main ingredient is awesome, and I will probably be hanging out by myself on Tg. I'm going to see my parents on wednesday, but coming back early.

Your welcome over at my parents house for TG if you want. We stuff ourselves and then usually get drunk and play cards.


Ok, Main Ingredient next Friday. Yay, I've never gotten to go !

sin213
11-19-2010, 08:38 AM
Who's going to the roots tomorrow? I'll be the guy in the pink polo with the gel'd hair.

hahaha...i'd pay for a picture of that! a popped collar is mandatory though.

locachica73
11-19-2010, 08:38 AM
oooh, I think I qualify under the severe nausea, whoot. I also have a lot of pain in my leg since the surgery so maybe that will work too.

westcoastpirate
11-19-2010, 08:39 AM
Main ingredient is awesome, and I will probably be hanging out by myself on Tg. I'm going to see my parents on wednesday, but coming back early.

FYI, TMI has happy hour all day on Mondays, $2,50 Oskar Blues can't be beat!

Mr. Dylanja
11-19-2010, 08:40 AM
Just be patient with it, the crooked doctors looking for a quick buck will surface sooner or later.

locachica73
11-19-2010, 08:43 AM
...the hell? is that anything like the wasted syndrome i've had after a couple bottles of wine the past few nights?

People who have had gastric bypass get something called wasting syndrome. It is horrible. Basically as soon as you eat anything that doesn't agree with your stomach you run to the bathroom and ummm waste it immediately. I had two friends with it and they were a joy to go to a restaurant with.

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 08:46 AM
that's not fun. i will not be at the roots, but instead will be playing drunk wars. i wanted to go, but the battle thing doesn't really appeal to me. i just want to go back in time to the 2008 show i missed lol.

locachica73
11-19-2010, 08:53 AM
Main ingredient is awesome, and I will probably be hanging out by myself on Tg. I'm going to see my parents on wednesday, but coming back early.

Adrienne and Chad are having the kids and I over (and maybe even Nick if his mom allows it) and you are welcome to join us. Chad is deep frying a turkey and my sister is making some sort of standing crown roast or something. There will be beer... :)

sin213
11-19-2010, 08:53 AM
that's not fun. i will not be at the roots, but instead will be playing drunk wars. i wanted to go, but the battle thing doesn't really appeal to me. i just want to go back in time to the 2008 show i missed lol.

i have a recording of that show that could take you back there....

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 08:56 AM
do share! thanks :)

and marc, i'd invite you but audra's thanksgiving sounds way more fun. twilight will be meeting the parents.

Bud Luster
11-19-2010, 09:02 AM
Holy shit. You don't call him twilight to his face do you? haha.

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 09:07 AM
HA, no, it's just that when he came to rock band and met a bunch of phoenix coachellaers, everyone kept saying he looked like edward from twilight, so that's how i refer to him on here. i guess he gets it a lot.

M Sparks
11-19-2010, 10:38 AM
Ha, you guys are awesome. I was not fishing for an invite, but I am going to take Adrienne and Audra up on their offer. My mom is making ham on wednesday which is NOT RIGHT.

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 10:43 AM
how dare you speak disparaging words about ham. send it my way.

sin213
11-19-2010, 10:48 AM
turkey is nasty

we're doing a turducken. mmmmmm. 3 meats in one bite.

Mr. Dylanja
11-19-2010, 10:54 AM
turkey is nasty

we're doing a turducken. mmmmmm.

Contradict much?



Honey glazed ham. Smoked turkey FTW.


I still haven't had deep fried turkey and it's looking unlikely this year :nono

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 10:57 AM
dry and salty ham > honey glazed

Mr. Dylanja
11-19-2010, 10:59 AM
Put 'em up, put 'em up!

sin213
11-19-2010, 10:59 AM
Contradict much?



Honey glazed ham. Smoked turkey FTW.


I still haven't had deep fried turkey and it's looking unlikely this year :nono

there is very little turkey in a turducken. a few pieces of turkey is ok, but 18 lbs of it is ridiculous.

deep fried is best way though. soooo juicy. that's usually my biggest concern is how dry turkey gets.

Gribbz
11-19-2010, 11:01 AM
I like dark turkey meat. The white is too dry usually.

chairmenmeow47
11-19-2010, 11:07 AM
i also like dark meat. and fighting dylan over ham :p

Gribbz
11-19-2010, 11:10 AM
mmmm ham. I made a potato, egg, ham, and cheese breakfast burrito today.

westcoastpirate
11-19-2010, 11:15 AM
there is very little turkey in a turducken. a few pieces of turkey is ok, but 18 lbs of it is ridiculous.

deep fried is best way though. soooo juicy. that's usually my biggest concern is how dry turkey gets.

You need to read this:

http://www.npr.org/2010/11/12/131265342/american-excess-imagine-thanksgiving-without-it


American Excess: Imagine Thanksgiving Without It

by Linton Weeks

November 18, 2010

As Thanksgiving 2010 approaches, America's tendency toward excess seems to be getting more and more excessive.

First there was the turducken. Introduced to popular culture by supersized chef Paul Prudhomme in the early 1980s, the turducken is a boneless chicken — stuffed with sausagey filling, jammed into a boneless duck — stuffed with cornbread dressing, jammed into a boneless turkey — stuffed with oyster mash. As Newsweek wrote in 1982, "when sliced, you have three birds and a rainbow of stuffings."

Now CHOW.com presents a Thanksgiving Turkey Cake that features layers of turkey, sausage, mashed potatoes and cranberry sauce — topped with a sweet potato spread and mini-marshmallows.

And Bon Appetit and The Wall Street Journal are reporting on the Cherpumple Monster Pie Cake — a dessert compiled of an apple pie in a layer of spice cake, atop a pumpkin pie in a layer of yellow cake, atop a cherry pie in a layer of white cake bathed in cream cheese frosting. It's enough to make a Pilgrim grimace.

If the contemporary holiday were to be illustrated by a paragraph of adjectives, it would be extremely: luscious, creamy, buttery, oily, salty, sugary, yum-yummy, snacktacular, scrumpdiddlyumptious with over-the-top topping and a million cherries on top.

Take a glance at the Facebook page labeled simply Thanksgiving and see what Americans are thankful for: spaghetti squash, sweet potato yeast rolls, pecan pies, ginger snaps, apple cranberry crisps, family, friends, football and more food.

"I can't wait to pig out," says one of the more than 35,000 people who like the page.

American Excess

Rick Rodgers, author of Thanksgiving 101, says, "Thanksgiving was always about food."

As every schoolchild knows, Thanksgiving was created by early American agrarians to celebrate a bountiful harvest. According to lore, they shared that bounty with Native Americans. However, as some historians have pointed out, for the Pilgrims, the holiday was a religious respite from farmwork and they used it more as a time for fasting than for feasting. They believed in appreciating their abundance, not squandering it.

"This modern version of Thanksgiving would horrify the devout Pilgrims and Puritans who sailed to America in the 17th century," historian Eve Laplante wrote in The Boston Globe in 2007. "The holiday that gave rise to Thanksgiving — a 'public day' that they observed regularly — was almost the precise opposite of today's celebration. It was not secular, but deeply religious. At its center was not an extravagant meal, but a long fast. And its chief concern was not bounty but redemption: to examine the faults in oneself — and one's community — with an eye toward spiritual improvement."

Over the years, the religiosity of the holiday has faded away, but the food abideth.

Trey Popp, food writer for Philadelphia magazine, says that perhaps "Thanksgiving's transition from a prayerful holiday into a gluttonously secular one has something to do with the holiday's shift from a New England tradition into a national one, which came about when Lincoln declared it a national holiday during the Civil War."

Southern families initially didn't cotton much to the New England celebration, Popp says. "But Southerners do like a big supper, so maybe changing the focus to food made the holiday easier to swallow."

Over the years, Thanksgiving also became a time for merchants — think Macy's flashy parade — to sell everything. Including more food. Which brings us to the excessive American experience that is contemporary Thanksgiving.

Nearly 88 percent of Americans partake of turkey at Thanksgiving, according to Kelley Hower of the National Turkey Federation. In 2009 some 46 million turkeys — averaging 16 pounds apiece — were sacrificed to Thanksgiving. That means Americans consumed 736 million pounds of turkey — along with all the trimmings — at this time last year.

Let's take a look at a blogger's menu for Nov. 25. Here's the suggested 2010 "Classic Thanksgiving Menu" at AOL's KitchenDaily blog. It is described as "Nothing too fancy, nothing exotic, just really delicious recipes that your family and friends will love."

The roster lists 10 dishes: an olive oil and thyme basted roast turkey with herb stuffing and herbed gravy; cranberry relish; chive mashed potatoes; creamed onions; roasted Brussels sprouts and rosemary red onions; butternut squash wedges with maple butter; green beans with pecan brown butter; sweet potato gratin; bourbon pumpkin pie and apple pie.

Sounds like a beast of a feast. But what would you expect from a country where KFC's Double Down — an artery-clogging, bacon-and-cheese sandwich with a "bun" made of two fried chicken fillets — is extremely popular? And where state fairs have become incubators for deep fried everything: walleyes, Ho-Hos, butter sticks and beer?

Robert Jensen expects more out of America. A journalism professor at the University of Texas, Jensen has written several polemical pieces in the past few years calling for the end of Thanksgiving as we know it.

In the 2005 essay "No Thanks to Thanksgiving," Jensen writes that America could show the world true moral progress by replacing Thanksgiving Day "and its self-indulgent family feasting" with a National Day of Atonement and self-reflective collective fasting.

"I don't think it's strong enough to say we are tilting more and more toward excess," says Jensen today from his home in Austin, Texas. "I think U.S. society long ago went past a point of balance, both in ecological and cultural terms. We have built a world based on mindless consumption, premised on fantasies of endless abundance, all of which have been subsidized by vulnerable people around the world."

Jensen's dream itself may be extreme. But the hobbled economy could help make his dream come partially true. Harsh economic circumstances are forcing some Americans to scale back this year. A recent survey by First Command Financial Services states that "more families have less for Thanksgiving." About 40 percent of those questioned said they will be changing their holiday plans for 2010 because of economic reasons, and 20 percent said they will be cooking Thanksgiving dinner only for relatives.

Joe Cockrell, a media and marketing consultant in New York, told CNN Money this month that in the past he has invited 150 people to a Thanksgiving blowout. But not this year.

Thanksgiving was traditionally "a time to gather with friends before the crazy holiday season hits," Cockrell told CNN. "Last year it was complete with bartenders, catered food and a DJ."

Since last November, Cockrell has run into financial trouble. He had to sell his condominium. He told CNN that this year he is just having a few friends over for Thanksgiving and asking them to bring some of the comestibles. "We'll probably do board games," he said, "just kind of hang out."

Thanksgiving For One

When CNN Money asked Susie Coelho, a California lifestyle consultant and entertainment maven, about celebrating Thanksgiving in lean times, she said, "It's not cool to overdo things when people are suffering. And most people are suffering. ... People are concerned about their homes and their jobs."

For years, some Native Americans have felt that the rest of America overdoes — and overdoses on — Thanksgiving. Traditionally, a group congregates near Plymouth Rock in Massachusetts, where early settlers landed in the 17th century, each Thanksgiving to observe a National Day of Mourning.

Jensen feels pretty much the same way. He believes that America is squandering, not squirreling away, its abundant harvest. "I think we need a day of atonement rather than [of] thanksgiving," he says. "Before we can be truly thankful, we need to be honest."

And how will he spend Thursday, Nov. 25? "I plan to spend Thanksgiving alone," says Jensen. "I want to spend part of the day reading, and part of the day walking as far away from the city as I can get."

Maybe Jensen is at least headed in the right direction. In this world of economic uncertainty and diminishing resources, perhaps it would be more appropriate to glorify our inestimable national bounty with reverence rather than overindulgence. To cherish what we have rather than chowing down on it. To celebrate prudence rather than pigging out.

Or maybe there is a middle ground. In fact, the creator of the Thanksgiving Turkey Cake believes that she has found it. She believes Americans can have their cake and eat it, too.

Amy Wisniewski, associate food editor at CHOW.com, says her concoction may be the perfect solution "if you think about going to a Thanksgiving affair where half of your friends or family are unemployed and you really can't afford to do a huge spread, including an organic turkey or two with loads of side dishes, desserts and perfectly paired wines. So you whip up a turkey cake for a handful of people, crack a beer and call it a day."

And there you have it: excess and restraint rolled into one. Very layered. Very zeitgeist. Very American.

Mr. Dylanja
11-19-2010, 11:18 AM
tl;dr

westcoastpirate
11-19-2010, 11:20 AM
tl;dr

It basically outlines all the gnarly over the top food items people are coming up with for Thanksgiving, including turducken, and how it's getting out of control.

sin213
11-19-2010, 11:21 AM
yeah, every year i try and keep it limited to just enough for a plate of food each (not loaded up with 5 lbs of food), plus enough for one more plate each to take as leftovers. we always waste food if we make too much.

M Sparks
11-19-2010, 01:08 PM
If your turkey is too dry, you're doing it wrong.

And I like ham just fine...but how many days a year are you going to roast a damn turkey? Save the ham for any other sunday.

Alligator Bogaloo
11-20-2010, 04:35 PM
My roommate and I are going to check out the Roots crew tonight. Should be a pip...

Somewhat Damaged
11-20-2010, 08:22 PM
Since when do you have a roommate? Welcome back, btw. And what's a pip?

Alligator Bogaloo
11-21-2010, 03:53 PM
I got a roommate back in August, thanks, and a pip is a good time. Here is a little breakdown of the show last night:

http://coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1915537#post1915537

And belated congrats on the wedding!

Somewhat Damaged
11-21-2010, 07:38 PM
Thanks! Is pip Yiddish?

Alligator Bogaloo
11-22-2010, 07:13 AM
Nope.

M Sparks
11-22-2010, 08:27 AM
Just very old fashioned.

Somewhat Damaged
11-22-2010, 09:50 AM
So not to interrupt this scintillating discussion we have brewing here but do you still plan on inviting people over next Sunday, Marc, or will your housewarming shindig be solely relegated to the December 11 party?

M Sparks
11-22-2010, 06:54 PM
I have no time to plan, so the party on the 11th is the "shindig", but if you're (any of you) are bored this sunday, we could do something informal. I did buy a big barrel charcoal grill, so we could give it a dry run before the main event. I still need to put it together, though.

Alligator Bogaloo
11-23-2010, 01:18 PM
Portishead sent me an email today:

Portishead announcement

Hello. Check the news page at http://www.portishead.co.uk/news.php on Wednesday 24th November for an announcement about 2011.

Thanks
---
New album...tour dates... let's hope!!!

Mr. Dylanja
11-23-2010, 01:19 PM
A residency at Celebrity Theater perhaps??

locachica73
11-24-2010, 06:39 AM
Mushroom won't be open till next year and Happy Valley is WAAAY the fuck out north. I vote for someplace downtown that we always talk about going to but never do.........The Main Ingredient Ale House

Is this still the plan for Friday? What time is everyone meeting up? I don't have to work so my girl Lisa and I are planning on doing some day drinking and then meeting you guys. Chances are we will already be buzzed when we get there. Cheers to day drinking.

faxman75
11-24-2010, 06:44 AM
A residency at Celebrity Theater perhaps??

I'm sure that's exactly what it is.

chairmenmeow47
11-24-2010, 06:52 AM
i may or may not meet-up friday. my friend gordon is coming to town.

captncrzy
11-24-2010, 07:22 AM
We're in. Sheree is coming with. Ivy, bring Gordo with you.

downingthief
11-24-2010, 08:48 AM
I just scored a ticket to Roger Waters on Saturday. Sweeeeeeeeet!

M Sparks
11-24-2010, 10:15 AM
Wait, what is Friday? I gotta work until 7:30 but I am unengaged otherwise.

captncrzy
11-24-2010, 10:17 AM
We are going to go to the Main Ingredient Ale House on Friday after work.

downingthief
11-24-2010, 10:18 AM
Working the day after T-Giving sucks major donkey balls. My sympathies to you all (that are working).

captncrzy
11-24-2010, 10:20 AM
Nobody's going to be in the office in our area but me. I'm very excited about getting to sit here all day and do nothing and having no one bother me.

Sean, you coming out Friday?

downingthief
11-24-2010, 10:21 AM
I don't see why not. :)

locachica73
11-24-2010, 10:48 AM
What time is after work? I don't have to work so I just need to plan my drinking accordingly.

I.F.A.
11-24-2010, 10:56 AM
i may or may not meet-up friday. my friend gordon is coming to town.

My brother-from-another-mother!! Yes, come and bring Gordon!!

captncrzy
11-24-2010, 11:11 AM
What time is after work? I don't have to work so I just need to plan my drinking accordingly.

I'm going to pick Rick up at work around 330. So around 4?

locachica73
11-24-2010, 11:12 AM
Sounds good to me. :)

M Sparks
11-24-2010, 12:17 PM
OK cool, I will cruise up there around 8, hopefully you won't all be gone.

locachica73
11-24-2010, 12:18 PM
Lisa and I plan on staying out for awhile, it will be her birthday so my job as friend is to get her shitty drunk and hold her hair back later when she pukes. You are all welcome to join in those festivities if you want. :)

ok, maybe not the puking part of the evening but up until then at least.

Alligator Bogaloo
11-24-2010, 12:22 PM
I'm going to the ASU football game on Friday but I'll probably be able to make a guest appearance at the Ale House.

M Sparks
11-24-2010, 12:45 PM
Lisa's pretty cute, but I'll pass...

sin213
11-24-2010, 12:53 PM
that's not fun. i will not be at the roots, but instead will be playing drunk wars. i wanted to go, but the battle thing doesn't really appeal to me. i just want to go back in time to the 2008 show i missed lol.


i have a recording of that show that could take you back there....


do share! thanks :)



The Legendary Roots Crew - 2008-06-14
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kxmvb5

chairmenmeow47
11-24-2010, 06:30 PM
COME PLAY ROCK BAND RIGHT NOW... and bring beer :)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs984.snc4/75728_178694192145570_100000149721397_690663_65322 41_n.jpg

and if you don't, you're pussies. all of you.

captncrzy
11-24-2010, 07:10 PM
Oh come on. I'm in my jammies. And like 40 miles away.

M Sparks
11-25-2010, 01:18 PM
I was 200 miles away, but it was tempting.

captncrzy
11-26-2010, 09:39 AM
Ale House tonight, bitchezz

2337 N 7th St 85004.

We'll be there around 4ish.

M Sparks
11-26-2010, 10:36 AM
8Ish here. Should I even bother?

captncrzy
11-26-2010, 10:41 AM
You should probably call first. Who knows.

chairmenmeow47
11-26-2010, 11:20 AM
you are all forgiven :p

i won't make it today i don't think. impromptu camping tonight. have fun :)

locachica73
11-26-2010, 11:54 AM
8Ish here. Should I even bother?

Lisa canceled on me, yet again, so I am not sure how late I will be out either. Or at least out there, I might head back up to my hood to continue drinking, but I am just going to play it by ear.

captncrzy
11-26-2010, 12:16 PM
Basically, I think everyone but me and Rick and Audra have crapped out. Is that the case? If so, we can always reschedule.

Somewhat Damaged
11-26-2010, 12:19 PM
Wasn't Sean coming, too? I say we go anyway, just in case.

(As much work as I have to do & have already gotten done, I wish the time was an hour and 12 minutes later than it actually is.)

Mr. Dylanja
11-26-2010, 12:21 PM
Buncha flakes :nono

Thanks for the Interpol mix, Rick. I plan on getting around to it fairly soon, and will report back.

captncrzy
11-26-2010, 12:21 PM
Ok, 4 at the Ale House. Be there or be square.

M Sparks
11-26-2010, 12:59 PM
I'll just check in with you Jen. Or send me a text when you leave if you think of it.

Mr. Dylanja
11-29-2010, 11:38 AM
How was the Ale House?

locachica73
11-29-2010, 11:40 AM
I liked it, but I would recommend dressing warm if you plan on sitting outside, they didn't bring the heating lamps around till after the sun went down and we were all kind of shivering by then. The food and beer were good, cute little house turned into a restaurant, I dig those kind of places.

downingthief
11-29-2010, 12:21 PM
Amy and I showed up later. I liked it. Nice chill vibe.

Somewhat Damaged
11-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Yeah, it was good seeing the three of you. BTW, those 2 Velvet Hammers at Rosie McCaffrie's were the worst mistake I've made since mixing liquors at the wedding. I woke up at 3am with a severe headache, drank some water & popped a couple ibuprofens, then got woken up again 2 hours later with what felt like an even worse headache. Seconds felt like hours so I got up and took a shower (those always seem medicinal in alleviating my hangover headaches) and finally managed to lose consciousness again around 6. Ugh. Left me with absolute zero desire to drink the rest of the weekend, which is uncommon.

locachica73
11-29-2010, 01:21 PM
Aw, I wish I would have known you guys were continuing the evening, I ended up getting ditched by both my girlfriends that night and stuck at the same bar I am always stuck at. My girls did come through on Saturday though so I didn't have to delete them as friends.

I.F.A.
11-29-2010, 01:32 PM
Rick, I'm sorry you were so hung over!! :(

And, Audra, sorry that I missed you! Super lame that your friends ditched you.

captncrzy
11-29-2010, 01:37 PM
Yeah, it was good seeing the three of you. BTW, those 2 Velvet Hammers at Rosie McCaffrie's were the worst mistake I've made since mixing liquors at the wedding.

For the record, it was three weeks ago. So the worst alcohol mistake he's made in three weeks.

locachica73
11-29-2010, 01:38 PM
One girl actually showed up, ordered wings and rounds of drinks, got a booty call and left me with her tab. I probably won't be spending much time with her again. I am all for a girl getting laid but you don't ditch your drunk friend at the bar with your tab to do so.

I.F.A.
11-29-2010, 01:40 PM
Dude, that's just fucked up.

*edit* I'm, like, super mad on your behalf. SRSLY! Who does that? I think you're better off without her, if that's the kind of "friend" she is.

locachica73
11-29-2010, 01:52 PM
Yeah, that was the reason for my passive aggressive drunken facebook post that said something about putting an ad on craigslist for new friends. I need a breathalyzer for my phone.

I.F.A.
11-29-2010, 02:00 PM
I saw that, and kinda wondered.

Bad form. (Her, not you.)

Alligator Bogaloo
11-30-2010, 03:29 PM
It's almost dreidel time!!!

downingthief
11-30-2010, 05:32 PM
It's spinnin' and spinnin' and spinnin'...

M Sparks
11-30-2010, 07:53 PM
It's almost dreidel time!!!

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/7601566/2/istockphoto_7601566-dreidel-high-5.jpg

Alligator Bogaloo
12-01-2010, 02:20 PM
My Hanukkah present wish list:

1. Daft Punk headlining Coachella
2. New Radiohead album
3. MMJ headlining Bonnaroo
4. Rocket launcher
5. $1,000.00 Zia gift card
6. Leica camera
7. Public option health care plan
8. Mini helicopter
9. Macbook
10. Peace on earth

M Sparks
12-01-2010, 03:32 PM
I thought you only had 8 nights. Better cut the Peace On Earth and Public Healthcare.

Alligator Bogaloo
12-01-2010, 04:15 PM
There's no rule that says you can't get more than one present each night...

Somewhat Damaged
12-01-2010, 06:50 PM
You guys are Jews. You know 1 present a night is the most you can reasonably hope for.

TomAz
12-02-2010, 06:03 PM
14 punts in the first half. This ASU-UA game is awful.

Somewhat Damaged
12-02-2010, 07:48 PM
The ending of this game is making my heart race faster than half an hour of intense cardio.

Alligator Bogaloo
12-03-2010, 11:38 AM
Man, what a crazy game last night. Go ASU!!!! Double overtime win!!!! Two p.a.t. blocks!!! Crazy....

locachica73
12-06-2010, 05:53 PM
Anyone have any plans for NYE? I have done some searches around town and the only thing that comes up is the Tempe block party which is a little too much for me. I am looking for some good ideas... Do you all know of any bars that are doing anything cool, preferably close to a decent hotel that I don't have to drive to/from?

captncrzy
12-06-2010, 06:14 PM
I generally prefer to stay in on nye. It's amateur hour out there

chairmenmeow47
12-07-2010, 08:23 AM
probably going to a wedding in tucson.

TomAz
12-07-2010, 08:38 AM
I generally prefer to stay in on nye. It's amateur hour out there

ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

Alligator Bogaloo
12-07-2010, 05:51 PM
I'm glad I'm within walking distance of the block party, and I think I can buy cheaper tickets since I live in Tempe. I'll be taking a new friend to the Jimmy Eat World concert.

M Sparks
12-07-2010, 05:58 PM
Yeah, I might go too, the event is kind of stupid, but I wouldn't mind seeing Jimmy Eat World again. Better than sitting home alone.

Also, Go Jdate!

Gribbz
12-07-2010, 06:01 PM
Not gonna lie, I'm kind of baffled by all of this Jimmy Eat World love. I mean, they're not terrible or anything... is it because they're from Arizona?

downingthief
12-07-2010, 06:07 PM
Not gonna lie, I'm kind of baffled by all of this Jimmy Eat World love. I mean, they're not terrible or anything... is it because they're from Arizona?

Ditto

M Sparks
12-07-2010, 06:18 PM
Yes, that's part of it. I mean, they used to come in the record shop I worked in and post show fliers.

But I do genuinely like them. I don't know if I would have been exposed to them if they were from Montana or something, but if I had, I would have liked them. Not love, but like.

Gribbz
12-07-2010, 06:22 PM
Yes, that's part of it. I mean, they used to come in the record shop I worked in and post show fliers.

But I do genuinely like them. I don't know if I would have been exposed to them if they were from Montana or something, but if I had, I would have liked them. Not love, but like.

Understood. It sucks that JEW is Arizona's most popular band though.

Calexico is slowing rising. They played Coachella 2009 and opened for Arcade Fire on their recent tour.

Also, have you guys checked out Zola Jesus? I just gave her a listen today... sounds like Bat for Lashes. Apparently she's from Phoenix.

M Sparks
12-07-2010, 06:31 PM
They are exactly the right band to be the most popular. They are mainstream without being embarrassing. The best band is never the most popular.