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amyzzz
09-20-2007, 12:16 PM
AIR on Friday. Also, I'm not sure if I'll be up to trying to see AM in Tucson Saturday night after driving back from LA.

I've said this before; I didn't want to be repetitive. Oh well. Look what you made me do. :)

e_rupt
09-20-2007, 12:20 PM
ANIMAL COLLECTIVE tonight in tucson! who's going???

Mr. Dylanja
09-20-2007, 12:32 PM
FABOLOUS and BONE THUGS N HARMONY, 2morrow at Celebrity!!

Who's comin with me?

amyzzz
09-20-2007, 12:48 PM
Looks like we're all going to different shows this weekend.

Mr. Dylanja
09-20-2007, 01:27 PM
That was more of a joke even tho I very well might secretly attend.

Still deciding on Muse tonight, just dont know if I want to drive all the way to Mesa and pay around $40, when I'm pretty sure I'll see them @ Vegoose....

Somewhat Damaged
09-20-2007, 01:39 PM
Tucson's got Animal Collective tonight, New Pornographers tomorrow, and Arctic Monkeys Saturday, and I can't attend any of them because I'll be out of town watching other shows. If I were inclined to complain about that rotten luck of scheduling, I would only need to remind myself that I already took a second job to bankroll the shows I go to so that I'd realize I probably wouldn't be able to comfortably afford going to those other shows as well.

amyzzz
09-20-2007, 01:51 PM
I totally understand what you mean.

captncrzy
09-20-2007, 01:52 PM
Me = jealous

Sorry. I had two extra tix but no one here wanted them.

downingthief
09-20-2007, 02:24 PM
Eh, wouldn't have been able to do it anyway. Pinching my pennies for the pending nuptials.

Mr. Dylanja
09-20-2007, 03:11 PM
No more Muse, just found out that Pep Love and Casual are gonna be at the Blunt Club 2nite. Sweet! Still all the way in Mesa tho, sh!tty.

amyzzz
09-20-2007, 03:32 PM
Go Mesa.

rno2worriesx
09-20-2007, 08:23 PM
Ahwahtukee status

ewiggy
09-21-2007, 12:45 AM
Pinching my pennies for the pending nuptials.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

mountmccabe
09-21-2007, 08:12 AM
Anyone going to the Artic Monkeys tomorrow at the Marquee??

I am not but through various confusions I ended up with a ticket anyway that somebody can have if they wanna come and get it/work out a ticket transfer plan.

First person to pm/email/text/call me wins.

downingthief
09-21-2007, 09:40 AM
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!

Exciting, isn't it! :p

Less than a month away now...

captncrzy
09-21-2007, 10:22 AM
Hey, wait...why aren't we invited to this shindig?

TomAz
09-21-2007, 11:04 AM
you mean you weren't invited jen? gosh. all the cool people were.

downingthief
09-21-2007, 11:06 AM
Hey, wait...why aren't we invited to this shindig?

Budget...these things are expensive!

captncrzy
09-23-2007, 05:45 PM
Dammit....left out again.

I just want to come for the free booze. I won't eat or even take up a space at the table. I can cower in the bushes.

chairmenmeow47
09-26-2007, 09:53 AM
muse was pretty good. i've been waiting like 3 years to see them though, so i was going to have a good time no matter what. missed them at coachella in '04 to see adam freeland (and has he come to az, no). plus i missed them the few times they have come here for various other reasons.

they let me in with my camera, even though the website said no cameras which was a plus. speaking of, here are some MUSE pics and video (http://ivy.aholic.us/gallery/MUSE). the video isn't all that great, kinda small, i wasn't insanely close and i jump around a bit, but it's there.

butterflies and hurricaines was my favourite, but that is my favourite song. the breakdown was awesome with the fireworks and the light-up piano. though i've heard it too much, i also enjoyed time is running out. sounded kinda spooky. the balloons with confetti at the end were cool too.

this was my first mesa amphitheatre show. the sound wasn't great, but muse was definitely a good live performance so that made up for it. and it's down the so early?!

overall i had a good time, but their set seemed more buttrock and less piano. i enjoy the piano stuff more. was kinda surprised not to hear blackout too. there were some idiots in the crowd. the guy in front of me would not stop yelling before the show.

good times, who else was there?

and also, does anyone know when the cure tickets are going to go on sale? i'm sure this has been discussed somewhere, but work is crazy busy and i thought i'd ask the phoenix folk here :)

amyzzz
09-26-2007, 01:31 PM
Hey Ivy, I was there too. I've seen Muse before at the Marquee, and they were just as good as then, except, yeah, the sound wasn't loud enough.

captncrzy
09-26-2007, 09:06 PM
I haven't heard any info on the Cure tix myself, but I'll post if I hear anything. I'm keeping my eye out for sho-the Cure at a small venue like the Dodge??? I'm in.

downingthief
09-28-2007, 12:05 PM
No clue on the Cure tix, either.

Who all is going to the Shins?

Mr.Nipples
09-28-2007, 08:34 PM
be careful out there...

6 DEAD FROM BRAIN-EATING AMOEBA

PHOENIX - It sounds like science fiction but it's true: A killer amoeba living in lakes enters the body through the nose and attacks the brain where it feeds until you die.


Even though encounters with the microscopic bug are extraordinarily rare, it's killed six boys and young men this year. The spike in cases has health officials concerned, and they are predicting more cases in the future.

"This is definitely something we need to track," said Michael Beach, a specialist in recreational waterborne illnesses for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"This is a heat-loving amoeba. As water temperatures go up, it does better," Beach said. "In future decades, as temperatures rise, we'd expect to see more cases."

According to the CDC, the amoeba called Naegleria fowleri (nuh-GLEER-ee-uh FOWL'-erh-eye) killed 23 people in the United States, from 1995 to 2004. This year health officials noticed a spike with six cases — three in Florida, two in Texas and one in Arizona. The CDC knows of only several hundred cases worldwide since its discovery in Australia in the 1960s.

In Arizona, David Evans said nobody knew his son, Aaron, was infected with the amoeba until after the 14-year-old died on Sept. 17. At first, the teen seemed to be suffering from nothing more than a headache.

"We didn't know," Evans said. "And here I am: I come home and I'm burying him."

After doing more tests, doctors said Aaron probably picked up the amoeba a week before while swimming in the balmy shallows of Lake Havasu, a popular man-made lake on the Colorado River between Arizona and California.

Though infections tend to be found in southern states, Naegleria lives almost everywhere in lakes, hot springs, even dirty swimming pools, grazing off algae and bacteria in the sediment.

Beach said people become infected when they wade through shallow water and stir up the bottom. If someone allows water to shoot up the nose — say, by doing a somersault in chest-deep water — the amoeba can latch onto the olfactory nerve.

The amoeba destroys tissue as it makes its way up into the brain, where it continues the damage, "basically feeding on the brain cells," Beach said.

People who are infected tend to complain of a stiff neck, headaches and fevers. In the later stages, they'll show signs of brain damage such as hallucinations and behavioral changes, he said.

Once infected, most people have little chance of survival. Some drugs have stopped the amoeba in lab experiments, but people who have been attacked rarely survive, Beach said.

"Usually, from initial exposure it's fatal within two weeks," he said.

Researchers still have much to learn about Naegleria. They don't know why, for example, children are more likely to be infected, and boys are more often victims than girls.

"Boys tend to have more boisterous activities (in water), but we're not clear," Beach said.

In central Florida, authorities started an amoeba phone hot line advising people to avoid warm, standing water and areas with algae blooms. Texas health officials also have issued warnings.

People "seem to think that everything can be made safe, including any river, any creek, but that's just not the case," said Doug McBride, a spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services.

Officials in the town of Lake Havasu City are discussing whether to take action. "Some folks think we should be putting up signs. Some people think we should close the lake," city spokesman Charlie Cassens said.

Beach cautioned that people shouldn't panic about the dangers of the brain-eating bug. Cases are still extremely rare considering the number of people swimming in lakes. The easiest way to prevent infection, Beach said, is to use nose clips when swimming or diving in fresh water.

"You'd have to have water going way up in your nose to begin with" to be infected, he said.

David Evans has tried to learn as much as possible about the amoeba over the past month. But it still doesn't make much sense to him. His family had gone to Lake Havasu countless times. Have people always been in danger? Did city officials know about the amoeba? Can they do anything to kill them off?

Evans lives within eyesight of the lake. Temperatures hover in the triple digits all summer, and like almost everyone else in this desert region, the Evanses look to the lake to cool off.

It was on David Evans' birthday Sept. 8 that he brought Aaron, his other two children, and his parents to Lake Havasu. They ate sandwiches and spent a few hours splashing around.

"For a week, everything was fine," Evans said.

Then Aaron got the headache that wouldn't go away. At the hospital, doctors first suspected meningitis. Aaron was rushed to another hospital in Las Vegas.

"He asked me at one time, 'Can I die from this?'" David Evans said. "We said, 'No, no.'"

On Sept. 17, Aaron stopped breathing as his father held him in his arms.

"He was brain dead," Evans said. Only later did doctors and the CDC determine that the boy had been infected with Naegleria.

"My kids won't ever swim on Lake Havasu again," he said

M Sparks
09-30-2007, 01:17 PM
Anyone who swims in Lake Havasu is crazy anyway. That's the filthiest body of water on the west coast.

I grew up there and swam in the lake quite often in the 70's. But it's been dangerous for almost 20 years.

Jerm05
09-30-2007, 03:12 PM
I hear Salt River is pretty nasty too.

captncrzy
09-30-2007, 05:08 PM
I never swim in any public lakes or rivers here. To many people going down there, getting drunk, and puking, pooping, and peeing in it.

No thanks.

TomAz
09-30-2007, 06:21 PM
I peed in the salt river once. no poop though.

captncrzy
09-30-2007, 08:53 PM
I'm pretty sure I peed in it too-especially since I was drowning at the time. Thank god big Jim pulled me out or I wouldn't be around to have nobody want to meet me. Boohoo.

TomAz
10-01-2007, 08:39 AM
I've already met you.


I think I lost my voice in the middle of that Steve Breaston punt return yesterday. Srsly. He's running down the field and I'm yelling GO! GO! GO! and with about 20 yards to go my voice just kinda gave out.

captncrzy
10-01-2007, 08:40 AM
No, I mean the other thread.

Never mind.

RotationSlimWang
10-01-2007, 06:52 PM
I might be swinging through Arizona this weekend. Big maybe. If I do, I'm gonna try to hit Maynard's Vineyard. But I thought I'd let y'all know, in case either of you two old bastards wanted to fistfight about anything.

Actually, fuck fists--let's fist fuck.

TomAz
10-02-2007, 02:40 PM
currently the lead story on Azcentral.com:

Shakespeare shock? Show for Higley kids halted
Doug Carroll
The Gilbert Republic
Oct. 2, 2007 11:45 AM

The decision to halt a performance of a Shakespearean-themed play Monday by the Higley Unified School District has been praised by students and parents, according to the district.

A New York-based touring company, Windwood Theatricals, used poor taste in presenting The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (Abridged), the district said, and the show was stopped after about 40 minutes at the Higley Center for the Performing Arts. About 700 students in the sixth through 12th grades were in attendance as part of a voluntary field trip.

Tara Kissane, the district's director of visual and performing arts, decided to stop the show because of “verbal and body language that was considered inappropriate,” according to district spokeswoman Sara Bresnahan.

“Too much creative license was taken by the actors and it was offensive,” Bresnahan said, adding that at least a half-dozen calls and e-mails to the district on Tuesday morning supported the decision to stop the show. She said no complaints had been registered.

Bresnahan said the words “bitch” and “penis” were used in the show and that a careless reference to virginity also was made. She said the troupe's body language was suggestive.

“For students that age, it's not real comfortable,” she said.

The district has a responsibility to present wholesome productions to its students, Bresnahan said, regardless of what they might see at the movies or on television.

“The district thought this would be a great introduction to Shakespeare,” she said. “Students have thanked (Kissane) for what she did.”

The show, a comedy designed to run two hours, is a crash course in Shakespeare that references 37 plays and 154 sonnets and incorporates hip-hop music.

Students paid $5 apiece to attend the production and will be reimbursed, the district said.

disgustipated
10-02-2007, 03:17 PM
I might be swinging through Arizona this weekend. Big maybe. If I do, I'm gonna try to hit Maynard's Vineyard.


I plan on hitting it up on my move back to Austin next month.

Also, I have a friend who just moved to Jerome so I plan on checking that place out and using it as "home" for a couple of days. We plan on hitting the vineyard and the Grand Canyon.

Anything else around that I should see?

From there I plan to take the 40 to NM and hit up the Petrified Forrest, head south from Albuquerque to the Elephant Butte resevoir (just because) and then White Sands.

M Sparks
10-02-2007, 03:33 PM
A New York-based touring company, Windwood Theatricals, used poor taste in presenting The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (Abridged),

I love how the theater company "used poor taste". Rather than the school took 700 kids to a show that was inappropriate for them.

I find it hard to believe that the actors chose to stray from the script and "sauce it up" for an audience that they knew were all school children. If anything, I bet they cleaned it up a little.


Lafayette College Theater’s spring production The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (abridged)...The play contains active audience participation, adult language and themes, and the possibility of the audience getting wet.

Davidson College’s theatre department will produce the widely-praised comedy, The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (abridged)...The play contains adult language, subject matter, and situations, and seating is limited.

TomAz
10-02-2007, 05:09 PM
I love how the theater company "used poor taste". Rather than the school took 700 kids to a show that was inappropriate for them.

I find it hard to believe that the actors chose to stray from the script and "sauce it up" for an audience that they knew were all school children. If anything, I bet they cleaned it up a little.

Right. Someone at the district didn't do their due diligence and now they're blaming the theater troupe?

TomAz
10-02-2007, 05:11 PM
I plan on hitting it up on my move back to Austin next month.

Also, I have a friend who just moved to Jerome so I plan on checking that place out and using it as "home" for a couple of days. We plan on hitting the vineyard and the Grand Canyon.

Anything else around that I should see?

From there I plan to take the 40 to NM and hit up the Petrified Forrest, head south from Albuquerque to the Elephant Butte resevoir (just because) and then White Sands.

Jerome is cool but very, very small.

Your proposed route is decidedly non-linear. but since you're taking I-40 to ABQ be sure and stop at Acoma Pueblo. that's one of the coolest places in the southwest IMO.

disgustipated
10-02-2007, 10:33 PM
Thanks Tom. That looks interesting, I will check it out.

Yeah the route is non-linear because I refuse to take the 10 again.

captncrzy
10-03-2007, 08:30 AM
Oh, God, Jerome. If you get even the slightest bit of motion or car sickness, I strongly suggest taking a Dramamine before heading up there. It's quite the dicey drive up. I've never once made it to the top without puking.

TomAz
10-03-2007, 08:42 AM
Yeah the route is non-linear because I refuse to take the 10 again.

You do realize, I hope, that any road you take from White Sands to Austin is going to be mostly dreadful. but since you're going to be (roughly) in the neighborhood I can also recommend hiking McKittrick Canyon at Guadalupe Mountains National Park. Your timing will be perfect:


Thousands of visitors each year come to Guadalupe Mountains National Park to visit McKittrick Canyon especially during the latter part of October or early November for the sensational display of fall colors. In this tiny part of west Texas, the foliage (brilliant reds, subtle yellows, and deep browns) contrasts dramatically with the flavors of the arid Chihuahuan desert that includes century plants, prickly pear cacti, blacktail rattlers, steep canyon walls and crystal clear blue skies. Whether you come for the fall show, or plan your trip for another season, the beauty of McKittrick Canyon is always breathtaking.

from there on east, though, you're fucked. 500 miles of shit. might as well take I-10 at least to Junction, it'll be faster.

TomAz
10-03-2007, 08:44 AM
oh also, if you really feel like a detour, and like hiking, go to Big Bend National Park. that's one of my favorite places on the planet.

disgustipated
10-03-2007, 09:58 AM
Oh, God, Jerome. If you get even the slightest bit of motion or car sickness, I strongly suggest taking a Dramamine before heading up there. It's quite the dicey drive up. I've never once made it to the top without puking.


Nice tip. I DO get motion sickness...not while driving really, but I will have my dramamine on hand.




You do realize, I hope, that any road you take from White Sands to Austin is going to be mostly dreadful. but since you're going to be (roughly) in the neighborhood I can also recommend hiking McKittrick Canyon at Guadalupe Mountains National Park. Your timing will be perfect:

from there on east, though, you're fucked. 500 miles of shit. might as well take I-10 at least to Junction, it'll be faster.


Yes, I am all too familiar with the 500 miles of shit that is west Texas. I had already planned on stopping at the Guadalupe Mtns, but I will check out the Canyon, thanks.

I am still working on talking the girlfriend into spending an extra day so we can go to Big Bend, but it's hard work. I have been several times and try to explain to her that it is one of the most amazing spots on the planet. She responds with "how can anything in the dessert be amazing"...crazy Jews.

mountmccabe
10-04-2007, 09:34 PM
The Scottsdale International Film Festival (http://www.scottsdalefilmfestival.com/) is this Friday through Tuesday at Camelview.

Does anyone have any interest in going? I posted this in the Movie Corner as well so as to get advice from folks that might've seen some of these already. Also I found out that The Diving Bell And The Butterfly, a French film playing on the final day, was directed by Julian Schnabel so I wanna go to that.

But others too.

bballarl
10-04-2007, 09:51 PM
Go support your Diamondbacks instead.

M Sparks
10-04-2007, 10:15 PM
Oh, God, Jerome. If you get even the slightest bit of motion or car sickness, I strongly suggest taking a Dramamine before heading up there. It's quite the dicey drive up. I've never once made it to the top without puking.

City folk...:rolleyes :)

Sometimes we'll drive down to Prescott for the afternoon and I'll take HWY 89a back just for the heck of it. That's OVER the mountain, approaching Jerome from the south, back down into Verde Valley, up to Sedona, then up the switchbacks to Flagstaff.

Last Friday, we drove down the switchbacks just to buy Blavod and get some BBQ.

Next summer, we're driving the PCH all the way from Crescent City to Santa Monica. Flat highways suck.

mountmccabe
10-04-2007, 10:24 PM
Go support your Diamondbacks instead.

They are in Chicago Saturday and Sunday. And if the series goes five then that last game would be Tuesday in Phoenix but, umm, I'mn't gonna lay down that kind'f scratch. If I could even get non-scalped tickets.

captncrzy
10-05-2007, 08:29 AM
City folk...:rolleyes :)

Sometimes we'll drive down to Prescott for the afternoon and I'll take HWY 89a back just for the heck of it. That's OVER the mountain, approaching Jerome from the south, back down into Verde Valley, up to Sedona, then up the switchbacks to Flagstaff.

Last Friday, we drove down the switchbacks just to buy Blavod and get some BBQ.

Next summer, we're driving the PCH all the way from Crescent City to Santa Monica. Flat highways suck.

You must have an iron stomach. That twisting, turning, one lane highway up that mountain is torture for me. It's not just the twisting and turning, it's the horrendous fear of being run off the road by a trucker and plummeting off the side of the mountain.

M Sparks
10-05-2007, 11:17 AM
You must have an iron stomach. That twisting, turning, one lane highway up that mountain is torture for me. It's not just the twisting and turning, it's the horrendous fear of being run off the road by a trucker and plummeting off the side of the mountain.

I love it, but oddly, I am sort of afraid of heights.

I must admit that I drive an Element now, and it's not exactly great for tight cornering. But give me something a little sportier, and it's great fun. I think my wife's getting an Altima or Civic before we do the PCH trip, so we'll take that.

downingthief
10-05-2007, 11:21 AM
Got my Shins tix, and my Travis tix. Anyone else going?

TomAz
10-05-2007, 11:34 AM
I can't go to the Shins, and it's pissing me off.

downingthief
10-05-2007, 12:04 PM
I can't go to the Shins, and it's pissing me off.

That sucks. I've been wanting to see them for some time.

amyzzz
10-05-2007, 01:13 PM
I don't think I like Travis enough to pay for it, but I hope you have fun.

captncrzy
10-05-2007, 01:45 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Travis again but I'm going to need to check my travel schedule.

amyzzz
10-05-2007, 04:15 PM
The Scottsdale International Film Festival (http://www.scottsdalefilmfestival.com/) is this Friday through Tuesday at Camelview.

Does anyone have any interest in going? I posted this in the Movie Corner as well so as to get advice from folks that might've seen some of these already. Also I found out that The Diving Bell And The Butterfly, a French film playing on the final day, was directed by Julian Schnabel so I wanna go to that.

But others too.
I just got rid of my kids for the week (yay!). Maybe I could go one night.

captncrzy
10-06-2007, 07:34 AM
Holy shit...it's "open all your windows" cool outside this morning! Yay!

TomAz
10-06-2007, 10:01 AM
YAHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

oh what a beautiful morning..

amyzzz
10-07-2007, 07:03 AM
It's 50 degrees out this morning. I thought it was a little nippy when I fed the dog outside. (he sleeps inside and eats outside). I was briefly in Sedona yesterday, and I was chilly there around noon. I need to buy my kids (and my lil dog) some sweaters.

breakjaw
10-07-2007, 07:28 AM
Sometimes we'll drive down to Prescott for the afternoon and I'll take HWY 89a back just for the heck of it. That's OVER the mountain, approaching Jerome from the south, back down into Verde Valley, up to Sedona, then up the switchbacks to Flagstaff.
Next summer, we're driving the PCH all the way from Crescent City to Santa Monica. Flat highways suck.
I'm drinking a Bloody Mary out of an Asylum pint glass as we speak.Asylum is the restaurant that is in the Grand Hotel in Jerome.The haunted Grand Hotel.
Also 89a is one of my favorite drives on Earth.
That PCH trip is too!

downingthief
10-08-2007, 09:10 PM
I'm drinking a Bloody Mary out of an Asylum pint glass as we speak.Asylum is the restaurant that is in the Grand Hotel in Jerome.The haunted Grand Hotel.
Also 89a is one of my favorite drives on Earth.
That PCH trip is too!

Dude! That place rocks. My girl and I have gone to Jerome for New Years twice in the last three years. Such a cool town, and the Asylum is fantastic. Great food there, and the vibe is eerily intoxicating.

faxman75
10-09-2007, 01:25 PM
I have seen many a show at the Spirit Room. I like Jerome and I never had any stomach issues or dizzyness going up the windy road. Not even when i've been completely drunk.

Tucson is the place for concerts in November. Neko Case, Calexico, Ween, Rilo Kiley and Suzanne Vega to name a few.

I just found a kick ass bar in Scottsdale of all places since I just moved there. It's called Wok Star. It's attached to chinese takeout place and the owner is in the punk band Blanche Davidian. I highly recommend the bar. It's at Scottsdale Rd and Shea. I got way wasted there on Friday night. Saki bombers are only like 5 bucks yo.

downingthief
10-09-2007, 01:35 PM
I have seen many a show at the Spirit Room. I like Jerome and I never had any stomach issues or dizzyness going up the windy road. Not even when i've been completely drunk.

Tucson is the place for concerts in November. Neko Case, Calexico, Ween, Rilo Kiley and Suzanne Vega to name a few.

I just found a kick ass bar in Scottsdale of all places since I just moved there. It's called Wok Star. It's attached to chinese takeout place and the owner is in the punk band Blanche Davidian. I highly recommend the bar. It's at Scottsdale Rd and Shea. I got way wasted there on Friday night. Saki bombers are only like 5 bucks yo.

Don't forget about the Stars show on the 9th in Tucson, as well.

faxman75
10-09-2007, 01:45 PM
UPCOMING SHOWS
Presented by The Rialto Theatre

Joe Bonamassa - Oct. 2
They Might Be Giants - Oct. 6
Rilo Kiley - Oct. 9
Devendra Banhart - Oct. 10
Ween - Nov. 4
Of Montreal - Nov. 7
Stars - Nov. 8
Architecture in Helsinki - Nov. 9
Old Crow Medicine Show - Nov. 12
Neko Case - Nov. 15
Hapa - Nov. 16
Suzanne Vega - Nov. 18
John Butler Trio - Nov. 26
Iron and Wine at the Fox Tucson Theatre - Nov. 26
Marc Cohn at the Fox Tucson Theatre - Dec. 10

M Sparks
10-09-2007, 04:48 PM
Anyone been to The Sets in Tempe? I kinda want to go see Chemlab in December, even though it's been 10 years since I last saw them and I'm afraid of the dinosaur factor. I was just wondering if the venue was any good.

mountmccabe
10-09-2007, 04:53 PM
Anyone been to The Sets in Tempe? I kinda want to go see Chemlab in December, even though it's been 10 years since I last saw them and I'm afraid of the dinosaur factor. I was just wondering if the venue was any good.

I was just there on Saturday for Jesu and Wolves in the Throne Room (http://coachella.com/forum/showpost.php?p=310766&postcount=88).


The Sets is a big pool hall, basically. There are four areas, all about the same size (legal capacity around 250), the main/entry room which has a bar, some TVs where I watched Phillies-Rockies because I got there way early, couches and tables and such. There's another room full of pool tables. Then there's an outside patio with a bar and tables. They serve food, too, I guess. Then there's the show room. It has a bar that had an area around it roped off for the drinkers; the rest of the room was all ages.

I thought it was a fine venue.

Somewhat Damaged
10-13-2007, 06:30 PM
I was looking through the Tucson Weekly today and saw an ad for the Soco Music Experience, October 20 at the Tempe Marketplace. Bands listed, in order, are Cold War Kids, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Girl Talk, Sick Puppies, Architecture in Helsinki, William Reed, Violet Wild, Awake and Alert, The Loveblisters, Army of Robots, Faucet, and Neba. Best of all, it's FREE! I hadn't heard any mention of this on the board so I was wondering if any of you Phoenicians were going to be attending. I'm planning on driving up that day so that would be something fun to do in the evening.

mountmccabe
10-14-2007, 01:50 AM
I posted about it in another thread (http://coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?p=315154#post315154). I am really looking forward to seeing Clap Your Hands and Girl Talk. And, actually, I'll probably even try to get there before 2:30 pm so as to see Neba.

breakjaw
10-14-2007, 01:57 AM
Anyone been to The Sets in Tempe? I kinda want to go see Chemlab in December, even though it's been 10 years since I last saw them and I'm afraid of the dinosaur factor. I was just wondering if the venue was any good.

If you go,watch out for the fire-breathing bartender girl.She literally breathes fire during the show,I'm not kidding.

Somewhat Damaged
10-15-2007, 11:30 PM
I posted about it in another thread (http://coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?p=315154#post315154). I am really looking forward to seeing Clap Your Hands and Girl Talk. And, actually, I'll probably even try to get there before 2:30 pm so as to see Neba.

Sorry, I don't go into that thread too frequently, although reading some of the posts in there via that link, I'm inclined to do so more now. Glad you posted the set times, though it looks like Jennifer and I will be at that baby shower too late to catch many of the acts I want to see.

mountmccabe
10-16-2007, 09:27 AM
Sorry, I don't go into that thread too frequently, although reading some of the posts in there via that link, I'm inclined to do so more now. Glad you posted the set times, though it looks like Jennifer and I will be at that baby shower too late to catch many of the acts I want to see.

No problem. And I certainly didn't mean to be knocking your mentioning of the fest in here; I almost posted it in this thread as well so more people would see it.

And that's too bad about how the set-times work out for you but if you make it def let me know! It looks like I might be there all day.

captncrzy
10-16-2007, 07:39 PM
We'll probably make it down around 7ish I'm guessing. Shower is supposed to end at 6 but I need to help clean up, etc.

denies the day
10-19-2007, 10:07 AM
Last week, the Phoenix New Times had a tiny blurb in the letters section about how NT was basically bullied into suing Maricopa County, the sheriff's office, and Dennis Wilenchik (the special county prosecutor) as a response to the years of threats to its reporters and for violating the newspaper's constitutional rights. If anyone reads the NT, you may have an idea of what's been going on lately. NT published an article this week detailing the outrageously shady dealings of everyone from County Attorney Andy Thomas, his completely unethical special attorney Wilenchik, and of course everyone's favorite Sherrif Joe Arpaio. And last night the owners of the newspaper were arrested for making the subpoena public.

There's a bumper sticker somewhere that sums it up nicely: If you are not completely outraged, you're not paying attention.

Freedom of speech? Freedom of the press? Don't try that in Phoenix. I hate to throw around terms like "police state" but really, WTF? Here's this morning's article from that paragon of journalism, the Arizona Republic.*

*that was for you, Tom.

<b>Sheriff's deputies arrest New Times owners</b>
Paper at odds with county authorities

Michael Kiefer, Robert Anglen and JJ Hensley
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 19, 2007 12:00 AM

Phoenix New Times owners Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin were arrested Thursday night by Maricopa County sheriff's deputies on charges of revealing grand jury information, a misdemeanor.

The charges stem from a story published under their byline in the Thursday edition of New Times, in which they describe a subpoena the paper reportedly received from a grand jury convened by the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.

At least one of the two was at the Fourth Avenue Jail in Phoenix early this morning.

Grand jury proceedings are secret, and the two wondered in the opening paragraphs of the article whether they could face legal repercussions for making the subpoena public, but they viewed the subpoena as an attack on freedom of the press.

The alternative weekly newspaper, in its cover story, said the subpoena was part of an investigation orchestrated to get back at its reporters and the critical stories they wrote of County Attorney Andrew Thomas' political ally Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

The scope of the subpoena is unusually broad: It not only demands information from the reporters but also information about all the online readers of the publication since Jan. .1, 2004, including their Internet domain names and browsers and what other Web sites they visited before reading New Times.

Outside the jail this morning, New Times editor Rick Barrs told assembled media that the arrests had been an attack by Thomas' attorney.

"They're trying to muzzle us," Barrs said. "This is retaliation against us. And it's not just retaliation against us, it's retaliation against the press."

"I think that what has gone on here legally is without precedent," Lacey told the Republic earlier in the day, before the arrests. Lacey is executive editor of Village Voice Media, which owns Phoenix New Times and several other papers across the country.

It attempts to put a chill on reporters doing their jobs, he said, and invades the privacy of readers. Lacey says he didn't intend to turn over the information.

The architect of the unprecedented online dragnet is the same private attorney at the center of other recent controversies in the County Attorney's Office.

Dennis Wilenchik has helped Thomas launch a war against Superior Court judges over differences on cases dealing with undocumented immigrants, last week staging an unheard-of confrontation with the court's assistant presiding criminal judge.

The State Bar reports that it is investigating possible ethical complaints against Thomas and Wilenchik in the wake of that incident.

A county attorney spokesman on Thursday night said he could not confirm if Wilenchik had sought the arrests.

The New Times subpoena originates from a series of articles published in 2004 and 2005. Underlying the subpoena is an allegation that the paper had published Arpaio's home address, which the County Attorney's Office alleges is a crime.

The subpoena specifically asks for documents and Web-traffic details related to:

• An article about a defamation suit filed against the sheriff by a political rival.

• An article detailing the history of antagonism between New Times and Arpaio.

• An article alleging that Arpaio had abused a law allowing public officials to keep home addresses private to shield nearly $1 million in cash real-estate transactions.

But the subpoena then went from requesting specific information to general information about the paper's online readers. The subpoena did not specify why that information was being sought.

The subpoena was not the only unusual tactic used by Wilenchik in the New Times case.

According to Lacey, Wilenchik used a politically important intermediary to try to set up a private meeting with the Superior Court's presiding criminal judge, Anna Baca, whose responsibilities include oversight of the grand jury. It is improper for judges to comment on cases before them, especially when only one of the parties is present.

Baca, Lacey claims, ended the conversation with the intermediary, whose husband works for Thomas, and then dragged all the players - reporters, editors, lawyers on both sides - into her chambers to make a record of the matter. .

Lacey said that, during the hearing, Wilenchik denied he intended to talk to Baca about the New Times investigation and, instead, wanted to talk about the court's relationship with Thomas' office.

Baca said that legal ethics prevent her from talking publicly about the case.

Presiding Judge Barbara Mundell also declined to comment on the case, as did Barnett Lotstein, speaking on behalf of the County Attorney's Office, and Wilenchik. Attorneys are similarly barred from commenting on grand-jury proceedings.

Wilenchik has been at the center of several recent controversies.

He defended the Sheriff's Office in a defamation suit brought by Arpaio's political opponent in his past election, and last week leveled bias charges against the superior court's assistant presiding criminal judge. Wilenchik asked that Judge Timothy Ryan be removed from all cases involving the County Attorney's Office.

The motion was denied Thursday by another Superior Court judge.

But Wilenchik's actions have created a furor, and the State Bar of Arizona confirms that both Wilenchik and Thomas are the subjects of Bar investigations into ethical conduct over the interaction with Ryan.

Legal experts described the subpoena of New Times records and computer information as frightening, over-reaching and unconstitutional.

"It really is overbroad," said Kenneth Fields, a retired Superior Court judge. "And it touches on privacy issues of a lot of people who cannot be the subject of a grand-jury investigation. This is potentially thousands of people."

James Weinstein, professor of constitutional law at Arizona State University, called the subpoena "exquisitely overbroad" and "outrageous."

Weinstein said he has never seen or heard anything like the subpoena, which orders New Times to produce computer records of every person who has visited the New Times Web site in the past four years.

"It has got to be unconstitutional," he said.

Weinstein said the U.S. Supreme Court has been reluctant to grant special protection to the media unless the authority is abusing power and acting in bad faith, such as targeting the media for retaliation.

New Times has pursued Arpaio since he was elected. At the bottom of the investigation is one New Times story in which a reporter details several valuable pieces of real estate purportedly owned by Arpaio.

The purported crime, however, is that the paper published Arpaio's home address on the Internet, which is illegal under state law.

Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, D.C., questions the underlying reason for the subpoena. He said a case can likely be made that the newspaper's publication of Arpaio's address did not violate the law. He said that takes much of the bite out of the subpoena.

EPIC was established in 1994 and focuses on civil-liberty and privacy issues involving computers and technology.

Rotenberg said that the subpoena against New Times is sophisticated and frightening in its scope.

By demanding the Internet addresses and computer activity of anyone who accessed the Web site, Rotenberg said, the county attorney is attempting to document the intent of all the viewers.

Rotenberg stressed that he doesn't believe there was any "underlying criminal act" to support the subpoena.

He said New Times' publication of Arpaio's address is protected under the First Amendment.

Sheriff's spokesman Paul Chagolla said Thursday that his office could not comment on the subpoena, saying that Arpaio is a crime victim.

amyzzz
10-19-2007, 10:14 AM
Shoot. I'm living in a Radiohead bubble. I didn't listen to NPR this morning, and I didn't read the cover article in the New Times yet.

Also, Jennifer and John, Tempe Marketplace was indeed that mall I keep seeing off the 202. The Dobson exit is just east of that sprawling mall. Not that you care. :)

TomAz
10-19-2007, 10:16 AM
I like the New Times, as they are the only rag in town that tries to do anything resembling investigative journalism. However, they also have a tendency to be irresponsible, biased, and not without their own bag of dirty tricks. I think Arpaio is a complete asshole, and probably corrupt, but man the NT published his home address. that's just fucked. My point is, this is not a black-and-white case of fascists attacking the freedom of the press -- there are gray areas on both sides. I think Arpaio's gray areas are probably shadier than the NT's, but, both have blood on their hands.

Mixed metaphors, anyone?

captncrzy
10-19-2007, 10:25 AM
Tom-you can find anyone's address (if they own property) through the county recorder's office.

Just sayin...

denies the day
10-19-2007, 10:33 AM
It's way beyond just publishing his address. The MCSO routinely refuses to provide access to documents to the NT's reporters while making it available to the Republic. They've gone so far as to prohibit NT reporters from even being at their PRESS CONFERENCES. If that's not an obvious suppression of the media, then what qualifies?

I agree that NT pushes buttons regularly. Dirty tricks? Bias? Hmm...

amyzzz
10-19-2007, 10:36 AM
New Times articles sound very biased to me, especially The Bird column.

denies the day
10-19-2007, 10:56 AM
I don't think I can defend Stephen Lemons although he's had some fine articles. But the work of John Dougherty, Paul Rubin, Sarah Fenske, and Ray Stern TNAF, have never seemed biased to me.

TomAz
10-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Then you're not reading closely enough.

denies the day
10-19-2007, 12:08 PM
Then you're not reading closely enough.

Okaaay. I genuinely can not recall the impression of a bias from 14+ years of reading the above named journalists' work. They each have their particular style and voice but I've never felt pressured or guided to a particular opinion that wasn't ultimately my own. I read the Letters pages every week with people assailing its reporters because feelings were hurt or someone has a different viewpoint and the theme in many of the letters seems the same: the reader does not take personal responsibility for extracting their own truth from the articles (or other sources) themselves. I'm through kissing up to NT right now but I think there's a reason why their writers get a lot of praise from journalism circles.

When it comes to true investigative journalism, our options as readers are quite limited, I agree. I guess the NT is the one rag I distrust the least? That and 944. (kidding!)

TomAz
10-19-2007, 12:12 PM
Okaaay. I genuinely can not recall the impression of a bias from 14+ years of reading the above named journalists' work. They each have their particular style and voice but I've never felt pressured or guided to a particular opinion that wasn't ultimately my own. I read the Letters pages every week with people assailing its reporters because feelings were hurt or someone has a different viewpoint and the theme in many of the letters seems the same: the reader does not take personal responsibility for extracting their own truth from the articles (or other sources) themselves. I'm through kissing up to NT right now but I think there's a reason why their writers get a lot of praise from journalism circles.

When it comes to true investigative journalism, our options as readers are quite limited, I agree. I guess the NT is the one rag I distrust the least? That and 944. (kidding!)


I agree that our options are severely limited which is why, all in all, I do like the NT. But I think in rebutting my assertion of bias you may have actually made my case for me: "..someone has a different viewpoint ..". An unbiased journalistic article doesn't have an opinion (unless it is specifically intended to be an opinion piece, like an editorial).

denies the day
10-19-2007, 12:42 PM
Not so. Ultimately, all reporters have a POV. I believe it's up to us as readers to determine who appears to be the least subjective when provided with any "news" in any format. Pretty sure that's a crappy way to look at it, but well...

denies the day
10-19-2007, 07:04 PM
So they dropped the charges. And dropping the special prosecutor from the case doesn't make Andrew Thomas less of an idiot.

http://www.kpho.com/news/14376424/detail.html?rss=pho&psp=news

TomAz
10-22-2007, 11:48 AM
anyone going to Gogol Bordello on wednesday?

captncrzy
10-22-2007, 01:12 PM
Nah-I caught him at Coach....didn't like it.

TOOLRAGE
10-22-2007, 04:07 PM
I'm going to see gogol bordello at marquee.

amyzzz
10-22-2007, 04:36 PM
Oh shit, this Wednesday? Jacob likes them. I doubt he'll go.

M Sparks
10-22-2007, 05:16 PM
Marquee would be good for a Gogol show as long as no one gets dropped on that floor. I'd be there if I wasn't seeing them at Vegoose.

M Sparks
10-22-2007, 05:24 PM
This was touched on above, but the details are pretty interesting/awful.


The subpoena also sought Internet addresses of all people who visited the New Times Web site and any Internet addresses those people may have visited before reading the stories.

The first part is pretty scary. The second part doesn't even make sense. Why would New Times have their readers internet histories?

thebattleofphoenix
10-23-2007, 09:58 AM
Hell yeah, I'll be at Golgo Bordello. Missed them at Coachella, and will probably miss them at Vegoose. This is probably gonna be my only chance to see them this year.

amyzzz
11-03-2007, 01:37 PM
Is anyone going to shows this week? She Wants Revenge/Kenna on Monday, Of Montreal on Tuesday, Hold Steady/Art Brut Friday....

I wanna go, but I'm broke, and my husband keeps me chained to the bed most nights. Especially if I'm bad.

Somewhat Damaged
11-03-2007, 03:06 PM
I'm going to She Wants Revenge/Kenna & Of Montreal on Tuesday and Wednesday, respectively. There's also Ween tomorrow, Stars on Thursday, and Architecture in Helsinki on Friday, but I don't know that I'm going to shell out $20 apiece for all three shows. (I may do the Stars show since it's the cheapest of the three. That'll probably be a Thursday night decision.)

Ooh, just realized that those were all Phoenix dates you posted. And you and your husband sound kinky.

mountmccabe
11-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Parts & Labor on Thursday at the Modified is how my week looks.

And it looks good, I must say.

amyzzz
11-04-2007, 12:05 AM
shit, I meant to say something more ominous, like chained to the wall or the toilet or something.

M Sparks
11-06-2007, 01:02 PM
Here's something for the old-school Arizonans...
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Geez, Dave Kendall was a douche

Somewhat Damaged
11-06-2007, 01:07 PM
shit, I meant to say something more ominous, like chained to the wall or the toilet or something.

Yeah, 'cause that would've TOTALLY dispelled any notions of kink.

amyzzz
11-06-2007, 02:08 PM
Nice, m sparks. I think we established in much older posts that I was there too. I also watched the 120 minutes broadcast when it came out. Ahh, memories. I miss Dave Kendall. Heck, I miss old MTV.

M Sparks
11-06-2007, 03:41 PM
Yeah, it's come up a few times, and we were talking about how much all these christmas radio festivals blow this morning, so I dug this out.

You could argue whether this lineup was better or worse for that time in comparison to a current KROQ festival, but at least it was considered something special. It wasn't just the same 10 bands booking out the month of December going to 10 different CBS station's Christmas shows. There's no way anyone else ever saw Crowded House, Pere Ubu, and the Meat Puppets in the same day unless they went to that particular KUKQ festival. (That was the fall after this one.)

I've got Johnathan L on my Myspace friends list.

denies the day
11-06-2007, 07:51 PM
Is anyone going to shows this week? She Wants Revenge/Kenna on Monday, Of Montreal on Tuesday, Hold Steady/Art Brut Friday...

I'd like to check out Art Brut on Friday. Saw them at Coachella and it's true: the live show is waaaay better than the album. The one I've heard anyway.

I also miss the old MTV and of course, KUKQ.

P.S. Modified is getting a new look!

TomAz
11-14-2007, 08:10 AM
Time for more on one of my favorite subjects, our wonderful local newspaper.

One of the lead articles in the Republic this morning has this headline: "Thanksgiving comes early this year, thanks to calendar".


There is a war on and this is the pap that gets reported. And we're not talking an article in the recipe section of the paper. no. this is on page 1.

captncrzy
11-14-2007, 08:21 AM
haha that's funny

TomAz
11-23-2007, 06:49 AM
fuck its cold this morning

BROKENDOLL
11-23-2007, 07:02 AM
Same here in Coachella Tom. Maybe our old bodies need more than just the 2 seasons we have living in the damn desert. 115* to 40* doesn't work well with me either!

captncrzy
11-23-2007, 09:28 AM
Yeah, it was cold last night too; I turned my heater on on the way home last night. Thank god it's finally cooling down.

BD-I don't know what you wrote but get out of our thread-you don't live here.

mountmccabe
11-29-2007, 09:12 PM
Control is running at Valley Art starting Friday December 7th.

captncrzy
11-30-2007, 07:34 AM
Control is running at Valley Art starting Friday December 7th.

YES! Thank you for posting this-I'm fully going.


Also, GO ASU!

BROKENDOLL
11-30-2007, 09:53 AM
Yeah, it was cold last night too; I turned my heater on on the way home last night. Thank god it's finally cooling down.

BD-I don't know what you wrote but get out of our thread-you don't live here.
You don't live in Coachella either, but you don't hear me asking you to leave the board, do you?

captncrzy
11-30-2007, 10:38 AM
Shut the fuck up. Seriously. Shut up.

BROKENDOLL
11-30-2007, 10:41 AM
Apparently you do know what I write. Cunt.

luckyface
11-30-2007, 10:45 AM
Seriously, if you are going to try to rip on someone, do it coherently. 9/10 of what you say makes no goddamn sense.

BROKENDOLL
11-30-2007, 10:52 AM
BD-I don't know what you wrote but get out of our thread-you don't live here.[/quote]


You don't live in Coachella either, but you don't hear me asking you to leave the board, do you?


Shut the fuck up. Seriously. Shut up.


Apparently you do know what I write. Cunt.
What part doesn't make sense to you Luckyface?

captncrzy
11-30-2007, 10:52 AM
I can view your posts whenever I please, you STUPID AARP BELONGING, SOCIAL SECURITY COLLECTING, WALMART WORKING DRIED UP TWAT! You don't live at Coachella so SHUT THE FUCK UP!

J~$$$
11-30-2007, 10:53 AM
This is sad.

captncrzy
11-30-2007, 10:55 AM
Yeah i'm done. I need to just resist the urge to click on View Post.

BROKENDOLL
11-30-2007, 11:06 AM
I can view your posts whenever I please, you STUPID AARP BELONGING, SOCIAL SECURITY COLLECTING, WALMART WORKING DRIED UP TWAT! You don't live at Coachella so SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Shit for brains. Everything you've assumed here is wrong, thus making a total ass of yourself in my eyes. As you make that drive from Phoenix in April, I'll already be hopping, skipping and jumping through the festival, bitch!

downingthief
11-30-2007, 02:41 PM
Control is running at Valley Art starting Friday December 7th.

Sweet. Glad to see it made it here. Probably will have a short run, though.

TomAz
12-01-2007, 09:05 AM
I can view your posts whenever I please, you STUPID AARP BELONGING, SOCIAL SECURITY COLLECTING, WALMART WORKING DRIED UP TWAT! You don't live at Coachella so SHUT THE FUCK UP!

you know she's only a year or two older than me, Jen.

captncrzy
12-01-2007, 10:45 AM
you know she's only a year or two older than me, Jen.

No offense meant, brotha. And, you don't have a dried up twat, as far as I know.

captncrzy
12-02-2007, 05:46 PM
I froze my ass off last night at the ASU game. Yay, our version of winter is here.

amyzzz
12-03-2007, 11:13 AM
Yay on Control coming here. I have 2 movies to see this coming weekend then: The Golden Compass and Control. Woohoo!

BROKENDOLL
12-03-2007, 11:20 AM
No offense meant, brotha. And, you don't have a dried up twat, as far as I know.
And just how would you know about my twat you little cunt?

kreutz2112
12-03-2007, 11:38 AM
you know she's only a year or two older than me, Jen.

Tom, the difference is that she looks like she's 30 years older than you.

BROKENDOLL
12-03-2007, 11:41 AM
I'd like some proof ,please.

kreutz2112
12-03-2007, 11:45 AM
Have you seen the picture you posted in the "Post Your Picture Thread"? You look like your at least 68.

BROKENDOLL
12-03-2007, 11:53 AM
Really? And your oppinion would be proof?

kreutz2112
12-03-2007, 12:03 PM
I cannot prove that you look like your 70 years old I can only observe, and from what I observed you look like your 70 years old.

Yablonowitz
12-03-2007, 12:06 PM
I froze my ass off last night at the ASU game. Yay, our version of winter is here.

Oh fun. Phoenix thread where the little pansies cry about the weather.

BROKENDOLL
12-03-2007, 12:11 PM
Do I need proof that you're coming across as a two year old punk? BTW...Let's not pollute the Phoenix thread with this argument. Meet me in the correct thread, child-punk!

BROKENDOLL
12-03-2007, 12:14 PM
Oh fun. Phoenix thread where the little pansies cry about the weather.
And where the elderly have to listen to it...

TomAz
12-03-2007, 12:31 PM
Oh fun. Phoenix thread where the little pansies cry about the weather.

there should be a Montana thread. you could post in it.


Yablonowitz (Today, 8:46 pm)

damn sure is cold here today

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:47 pm)

yep sure is. lots of snow too

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:49 pm)

what part of town you live in yablo?

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:51 pm)

You don't know me well enough to call me 'yablo', punk.

_________________________



etc.

Jerm05
12-03-2007, 01:20 PM
FACE

thelastgreatman
12-03-2007, 01:30 PM
Hahaha... that's right--FACE.

captncrzy
12-03-2007, 02:19 PM
Oh fun. Phoenix thread where the little pansies cry about the weather.

Hey man, it was cold to me. I don't have a problem admitting my pansieness.


there should be a Montana thread. you could post in it.


Yablonowitz (Today, 8:46 pm)

damn sure is cold here today

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:47 pm)

yep sure is. lots of snow too

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:49 pm)

what part of town you live in yablo?

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:51 pm)

You don't know me well enough to call me 'yablo', punk.

_________________________



etc.


Ruhrow.

amyzzz
12-03-2007, 02:22 PM
I still can't believe that it rained last weekend. It RAINED.

Jerm05
12-03-2007, 02:27 PM
the craziest part is it rained more than .03'' haha

captncrzy
12-03-2007, 02:28 PM
I know...I'm happy because the rain washed all the pigeon shit off of my front sidewalk.

Jerm05
12-03-2007, 02:31 PM
it washed my car too!!

pdhow
12-03-2007, 07:12 PM
Yo whats up. From Phoenix also....well now live in Tolleson, work in Phoenix. Yes the 10 sucks, steer clear of it. The rain was nice. It washed my car also now it looks like shit again. I'm curious what store do you guys buy music from. Sub-question, when Target or Best Buy sells really cheap indie CD's, do you purchase them from there. For example I bought the Brother Ali CD from Best Buy last year for 7 dollars and wet my pants it was so good. It was really great.

amyzzz
12-04-2007, 04:38 PM
Try Stinkweed's. I can't ever get over there, but when I do, there is usually something there I want. The last couple times I went to Best Buy, they didn't have anything I was looking for. Sometimes Border's actually has decent stuff, but it's always way overpriced unless you do one of their "member" sles.

Jerm05
12-04-2007, 06:30 PM
i do best buy as well, but if i'm really tryin to find somethin i hit up FYE. sometimes you can get a good find in their 'used' section. The locations with the best Used cd's are the ones near ASU or MCC or probably any store location with a dense student population surrounding it.

captncrzy
12-04-2007, 07:29 PM
I always just go to Zia.

pdhow
12-04-2007, 07:33 PM
Word....yeah I worked at Zia for a number of years and really liked it then. Since they moved the 7th ave location the used cd's have become rubbish, sometimes I'll find some good hip hop but other than that its a no go. The one in Tempe will have good finds but I prefer Hoodlums when i'm on campus/in Tempe. Stinkweeds, huh? For some reason I haven't been in there but once. Do you guys ever go to Eastside?

captncrzy
12-04-2007, 07:36 PM
I work in Tempe; I go to that Zia on University quite a bit.

pdhow
12-04-2007, 07:44 PM
I work in Tempe; I go to that Zia on University quite a bit.

yeah it has the best used selection. I only go there when I'm at the university. Which will be next Tuesday!

Yablonowitz
12-04-2007, 07:47 PM
there should be a Montana thread. you could post in it.


Yablonowitz (Today, 8:46 pm)

damn sure is cold here today

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:47 pm)

yep sure is. lots of snow too

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:49 pm)

what part of town you live in yablo?

________________________

Yablonowitz (Today, 8:51 pm)

You don't know me well enough to call me 'yablo', punk.

_________________________



etc.

I just read this. Pretty funny for you, Tom. +10.

Jerm05
12-04-2007, 09:19 PM
o yeah, forgot about Zia.

amyzzz
12-05-2007, 11:40 AM
Stinkweed's had Muse's Origin of Synmmetry on my first try looking for it (after Absolution came out).

TomAz
12-05-2007, 12:35 PM
....live in Tolleson.... my car..looks like shit.... I wet my pants.

but of course.

pdhow
12-05-2007, 08:17 PM
^^^^Nice....whatever we got more desert than you guys who live in tempe or scottsdale.

Plus all the cow farms are closing and moving West.

pdhow
12-05-2007, 08:18 PM
Yeah I need to go and check Stinkweeds out. Its hard finding independent hip hop at Zia. They just don't have it anymore.

amyzzz
12-06-2007, 05:25 PM
Anyone want to see Control tomorrow 10:15pm at the Valley Art?

captncrzy
12-06-2007, 06:01 PM
I can't go that late. That theatre is right across the street from my office, so I was planning on wandering over some time next week and seeing it during the day (at the 2:30 showing).

amyzzz
12-06-2007, 06:15 PM
'tis the only time I can get away from my family.

mountmccabe
12-06-2007, 08:30 PM
Aww that is too late for me too. I am going to have to catch a 7:30 during the week one day.

Jerm05
12-06-2007, 09:39 PM
ooo, maybe the 2:00 or the 4:45 show for me

TomAz
12-12-2007, 06:53 AM
saw this on azcentral this morning. this is not far (<1 mi) from my house.

http://www.azcentral.com/php-bin/commphotos/view.php?id=105285

Somewhat Damaged
12-12-2007, 07:29 AM
I can't go that late. That theatre is right across the street from my office, so I was planning on wandering over some time next week and seeing it during the day (at the 2:30 showing).

Do you know if they're going to have it more than one week? 'Cause if so, I'd really like to catch it with you.

I know I'm down in lowly Tucson but the sky was thick with fog this morning, so much so that I could barely see half a block down the road. It reminded me of that scene in The Others when Nicole Kidman leaves the house to find her husband but doesn't get out very far because of the fog. (I'm sure if I had seen the John Carpenter movie The Fog, it would've reminded me of that instead.) Did you Phoenicians get any fog of your own?

TomAz
12-12-2007, 08:34 AM
they were saying there was a bunch in mesa and tempe but i had none up where i'm at.

mountmccabe
12-12-2007, 08:35 AM
I got confirmation Monday night that Control will not be at Valley Art for more than one week. It is being replaced Friday.

If I am going to see it, and I really want to, I have to go today. I could go basically straight from work and catch the 4:45 pm showing or I could go to the 7:30 pm. Hmm.

EDIT: It's a 4:15, not a 4:45. And that'd really be cutting it close.

mountmccabe
12-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Also, wow, snow. Such as it is.

amyzzz
12-12-2007, 09:01 AM
Wow. I just checked myself regarding Control and decided to post about it here too. I'm going to have to see it tonight at 10:15pm, or I won't be able to see it. I don't suppose anyone is up for 10:15? I get off at 7:30pm, so I obviously can't make the 7:30 showtime. argh. I really want to see it!

M Sparks
12-12-2007, 10:49 AM
There was a weird fog in Flagstaff today. It was sunny (normally, we only get fog when there's already heavy cloud cover), and it also seems odd because it descended instead of "rolling in". It started out in the treetops- actually looked like smoke- and then it dropped. And then, as soon as you got to the edge of town...gone.

Before the fog came in, it was so cold, the steam from the SCA plant was actually blocking out the sun when I drove by. There was just this 2 block strip of Route 66 that was really dark, and everything else was sunny.

I was in Tucson last Saturday. It was SO nice, despite the rain. We went to the Fox Theater to see Miracle on 34th Street and when we came out, they were blowing "snow" bubbles off the roof. I swear, I heard 10 people say "Is it snowing?" as they left. Ummm...it's 55 degrees...

EDIT Did I really just write three paragraphs about the weather. I suck.

amyzzz
12-12-2007, 10:58 AM
We had fog throughout the Phoenix metro area as well. It was also sunny above the fog here. Trippy. I walked my kids to school today because the fog was so cool whereas lately I've been driving them because it's been so cold and/or rainy.

captncrzy
12-12-2007, 11:02 AM
No snow out west but I can see snow on the mountain caps that are east of town. That always looks soooo cool when that happens.

I can't go to the movie that late-I'll die of exhaustion. This unfortuantely is a really bad week for me to sneak out and go see a movie. Damn. Guess I'll be renting it.

mountmccabe
12-12-2007, 11:03 AM
Also, wow, snow. Such as it is.

Also, wow, hail, not snow. They're both frozen water so it still counts, right?

amyzzz
12-12-2007, 11:11 AM
I think we had hail last February (or was it January?) that looked like snow on the ground.

amyzzz
12-12-2007, 11:14 AM
I can't go to the movie that late-I'll die of exhaustion. This unfortuantely is a really bad week for me to sneak out and go see a movie. Damn. Guess I'll be renting it.
I'll be pushing it for me as well. I work late, but I still have to get my kids up at 6:30am every school day. *sigh*

Somewhat Damaged
12-12-2007, 11:23 AM
A friend of a friend of mine downloads movies on occasion -- I'll see if he can get Control so the lot of us can see it without having to wait for the DVD release since it isn't staying in theaters for very long. Man, its studio is being pretty cheap with spending money on prints if markets like Phoenix and Tucson get it for a combined two weeks over a two month period.

M Sparks: do you drink alcohol? If so, next time you're in Tucson hit Kon Tiki on Broadway and Swan. The signature drink is the scorpion -- I forget if it's $6 or $7 but it's pretty cheap and really fucking strong, as captncrzy & mob can attest.

mountmccabe
12-13-2007, 10:10 PM
So it turns out I didn't have all the information: Control is indeed done at Valley Art - it is being replaced by the new cut of Blade Runner - but Control is moving to Harkins Centerpoint.

I am now considering a 5:10 or an 8 pm showing sometime during next week.

amyzzz
12-14-2007, 05:48 AM
Awesome news, John. Maybe I can drag my hubby to it. He says he likes Joy Division OK. EVERYONE MUST GO SEE CONTROL! :)

captncrzy
12-14-2007, 09:09 AM
John-I can do a 5:10 with you next week if you want-any night but Thursday.

antpeople
12-14-2007, 09:52 AM
Thanks!! I didn't know it was here yet. Now I do and I will have to get my old man to go. I think he will, he likes Joy Division.

mountmccabe
12-14-2007, 11:12 AM
John-I can do a 5:10 with you next week if you want-any night but Thursday.

Great. I am pretty sure Tuesday or Wednesday would work for me.

captncrzy
12-14-2007, 02:46 PM
Great. I am pretty sure Tuesday or Wednesday would work for me.

Sounds good; let me know-either works for me.

TomAz
12-17-2007, 08:29 AM
anybody know a good fishmonger in town? I need 4 doz oysters, shucked, for my christmas dressing, and my local AJs doesn't have any oysters right now.

captncrzy
12-17-2007, 09:44 AM
Call The Fish Market on 20th St and Camelback-they sell fresh fish and seafood.

TomAz
12-17-2007, 09:46 AM
I thuoght that was a restaurant

mountmccabe
12-17-2007, 11:07 AM
It is a restaurant but they also sell fresh fish and seafood.

captncrzy
12-17-2007, 12:00 PM
Yeah, they sell seafood downstairs - they also have a decent oyster bar down there.

downingthief
12-17-2007, 12:46 PM
Love the Fish Market. I give it the best clam chowder in town.

captncrzy
12-17-2007, 02:29 PM
I wish I had the courage to order clam chowder in restaurants.

gaypalmsprings
12-17-2007, 02:30 PM
do you like Rocky Mountain Oysters?

downingthief
12-17-2007, 02:43 PM
I wish I had the courage to order clam chowder in restaurants.

Seen Fight Club too many times, eh?

TomAz
12-17-2007, 02:45 PM
do you like Rocky Mountain Oysters?

not as much as you do, I'm sure, GPS!

J~$$$
12-17-2007, 03:01 PM
Yablo is the moose nutt eating champion. They have a Rocky mountain oyster festival near his house that he tried to burn down so I've heard.

captncrzy
12-17-2007, 07:39 PM
Seen Fight Club too many times, eh?

Nah, I actually hadn't thought about that. Let's just say I don't order anything cream based in restaurants anymore. I worked in the industry for a brief period and got to hear all sorts of stories-the main point being white goo hides just about any fluid you want it to.

michaelmontanez
12-18-2007, 09:37 AM
last time I ventured up to Phoenix from Tucson was to see Man Man, they did not dissapoint.

Jerm05
12-20-2007, 01:54 PM
OMG the fuckin snowbirds are in full force..i got cut off twice today by same old fucker! he didn't even notice. BOTH TIMES!!

TomAz
12-20-2007, 02:17 PM
So many snowbirds.. so little freezer space.

downingthief
12-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Nice, Tom. Getting a lot of wildlife out your way? I expect with the bowl games coming up, I will be seeing a ton in Old Town.

captncrzy
12-21-2007, 10:07 AM
Superbowl week is going to be a bloody nightmare. I live about 5 minutes from Glendale arena-with those people and the ones in town for the FBR Open, I've decided that I'm not leaving my house unless it's absolutely necessary.

Jerm05
12-21-2007, 11:05 AM
I hope the superbowl doesn't attract a bunch of thugs. My brother, who lives in vegas, said a bunch G's came to town during the NBA Allstar happenings...and vegas turned into South Central for a while.

Yablonowitz
12-21-2007, 11:09 AM
Yablo is the moose nutt eating champion. They have a Rocky mountain oyster festival near his house that he tried to burn down so I've heard.

Bull nuts. Not meese.

Idiot.

J~$$$
12-21-2007, 11:12 AM
Thanks donkey. I know. Im just sayin that you enjoy downing moose nutts while they are still on the moose.

Jerm05
12-21-2007, 11:38 AM
lol

TomAz
12-21-2007, 12:12 PM
I hope the superbowl doesn't attract a bunch of thugs. My brother, who lives in vegas, said a bunch G's came to town during the NBA Allstar happenings...and vegas turned into South Central for a while.

the super bowl attracts thugs in corporate jets.

amyzzz
12-21-2007, 12:13 PM
This makes me glad I don't have any reason to go to the west side anymore.

luckyface
12-21-2007, 01:01 PM
This makes me glad I don't have any reason to go to the west side anymore.

You had a reason before?

The only time I even bothered going further than 7th Ave. was for shows at Glendale Arena.

amyzzz
12-21-2007, 01:18 PM
I used to live a bit westside--19th ave for most of my life, then 43rd ave.

downingthief
12-21-2007, 01:26 PM
Ran into Amare Stoudamire yesterday at Fashion Square. He was pretty cool. Very friendly.

Somewhat Damaged
12-21-2007, 01:42 PM
Jason Terry almost ran me over once. He cut through a Taco Bell parking lot and wasn't looking where he was going. Any time I'm a pedestrian, I'm naturally paranoid that some car's going to hit me so I stopped just before he came flying through. This was in '98, before he had his fat NBA contract, so I probably wouldn't have made out like a bandit if he had actually hit me.

mountmccabe
12-23-2007, 10:37 PM
Some of my friends were in town for the holidays and we went to a sports bar to watch the football games. I had to leave about when the firsts half were ending but it was still fun. And I finally got a chance to wear this

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/mountmccabe/0359689c.jpg

Thanks, Tom, it rules.

TomAz
12-23-2007, 10:39 PM
ha, this is awesome, i thought about this today at the Cardinals game, some guy (fan, not a player) was wearing a Boston jersey. I don't know if it was meant to be ironic though.

captncrzy
12-24-2007, 08:46 AM
haha nice jersey.

Yablonowitz
12-24-2007, 08:46 AM
Are you meant to be ironic, Tom?

TomAz
12-24-2007, 02:19 PM
i'm as earnest as they come, bucko.

TomAz
01-02-2008, 10:47 AM
I saw Boris Diaw in AJ's on monday.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
01-02-2008, 11:44 AM
I hope the superbowl doesn't attract a bunch of thugs. My brother, who lives in vegas, said a bunch G's came to town during the NBA Allstar happenings...and vegas turned into South Central for a while.

my friends working in the casinos there said employees were getting mugged by the people coming to the allstar thing...

TheGuvna
01-05-2008, 12:24 AM
Any good shows coming up in Phoenix in January?

I've got a some credits on Southwest Air and it looks like either Tucson or Phoenix. I have to book the flight soon though as the credits expire at the end of January.

Weekends would be best.

Help.

amyzzz
01-05-2008, 07:59 AM
We never have weekend shows here. Are you kidding? The Section Quartet at the Rhythm Room on Jan 16th (Wednesday).

TomAz
01-05-2008, 10:11 PM
amy's right

happypappy420
01-20-2008, 08:27 PM
new york and new england for the bowl in ol' glendale. any comments?

captncrzy
01-20-2008, 08:46 PM
I live 7 mins from the stadium...my only comment is that I'll be hiding in my house most of the weekend.

denies the day
01-21-2008, 11:24 AM
My toes are freezing.

And fuck the Super Bowl and the retards it brings to the PHX.











Sorry. My toes are really cold.

TomAz
01-21-2008, 11:36 AM
put on a hat.

amyzzz
01-21-2008, 11:42 AM
why are your toes freezing?

denies the day
01-21-2008, 11:48 AM
The new board colors are making me shiverrrrrrrrr.



With antici. PATION.

TomAz
01-27-2008, 01:25 PM
the current lead story on AzCentral.com, the website run by our local bastion of investigative journalism: (pay particular attention to the last paragraph):


The opening round of a high-impact storm that blasted California earlier this week rolled into metro Phoenix Sunday morning.

Forecasters say the rainstorm will intensify throughout the afternoon as it sweeps through the Valley from the northwest to the southeast.

A flash-flood watch is in effect from noon to midnight today. Indian Bend Wash and Cave Creek Wash in the North Valley are especially vulnerable to flooding.

"It looks like another large batch is coming over the Phoenix area in the next two hours," said meteorologist Paul Iniguez, of the National Weather Service in Phoenix. "The brunt of the moisture should be coming into the afternoon until late tonight."

The morning storm dumped one-tenth of an inch in the East Valley, one-fourth of an inch in the West Valley, and one-half to three-fourths-inches near the White Tanks and Wickenburg area.


Dumped, people. Dumped! the storm (I guess "rain" isn't a good enough word) DUMPED one tenth of an inch.

meanwhile, I predict an article in the coming days that tells us that despite the recent heavy rains, we are still in a drought.

Fear sells.

HowToDisappear
01-27-2008, 02:00 PM
Since rain is a relative rarity here, whenever there's a storm it's always the lead story at all the local stations. And it's always called

STORMWATCH 2008

or some such thing.

Several years ago they sent a reporter out to the intersection of Camino Del Oro and Avenida de la Playa in La Jolla Shores, where stormwater runoff was bubbling out of the manhole cover and into the street (it's below sea level).
The reporter alarmingly cried..."it's puddling in the street! Look at the size of this puddle!"

Puddling. We still laugh about it to this day.

thefunkylama
01-27-2008, 02:04 PM
Ahahahahahaha. I love the way people panic when it rains here. Although, I will say, this show of weather we've had lately is somewhat impressive; in the last three years I can't say I've seen the weather be consistently bad like this. Usually it's a few days of OMG and then it's over.

BROKENDOLL
01-27-2008, 02:06 PM
The opening round? I thought what hit us here in Coachella last nite was the brunt of the dump! Oh, wait...what the fuck is that big, dark ominous thing coming over the mountains???

Somewhat Damaged
01-27-2008, 07:41 PM
Man, I don't know about those rain totals but it sure was a bitch driving back to Tucson this afternoon.

faxman75
01-27-2008, 07:46 PM
I dig this rain. More please.

TomAz
01-31-2008, 12:11 PM
Actual headline in a lead story on AzCentral.com, right this very second:

Police seize 111 marijuana plants, arrest 1



I guess they let the other 110 go free.

TeamCoachellaHellYeah
01-31-2008, 12:18 PM
Actual headline in a lead story on AzCentral.com, right this very second:

Police seize 111 marijuana plants, arrest 1



I guess they let the other 110 go free.

those plants are some crafty fuckers....

captncrzy
02-11-2008, 09:10 AM
I just got this email...I thought it was funny...

> You lived in Phoenix in the 60s, 70s and 80s if...
>
> --You remember when Bell Road (especially thorough Glendale) was the
> considered edge of civilization. There was nothing there but tumbleweeds and
> prairie dogs. Now, it's where you go to run all your errands. Or if you
> were traveling eastbound on Bell Rd. the sign that said 'Scottsdale- 21
> miles'
>
> Your parents took you to Legend City. The only theme park Phoenix had.
>
> Mornings were spent watching 'The Wallace and Ladmo Show'. When it was
> over, it was time to leave for school. 'Ladmo Bags'.
>
> You remember when Beardsley Road was a seldom traveled, two-lane blacktop.
> Now, it's the eastbound frontage road for the 101 freeway.
>
> Before there was Target, there was Gemco. Now, most of the old Gemco
> stores are Targets.
>
> You watched Star Wars at the original Cine Capri.
>
> You remember stores like Yellow Front, Woolco, Newberry's, McCrory's,
> TG&Y, Fedmart, Sprouse Reitz, Wards and Yates.
>
> You remember when Metrocenter had a below-grade ice skating rink. Watching
> skaters from the overlook above was the best way to escape the summer heat.
>
> Also at Metrocenter was a Farrell's ice cream parlor. No Farrell's trip
> was complete without getting to see two waiters run though the restaurant
> with a sundae resting on a stretcher, while lights and sirens whirred in the
> background. Sometimes, the ice cream would fall off the stretcher. Don't
> forget the trip thru their candy store.
>
> You were bummed when Farrell's closed. The space was later occupied by
> 'Round the Corner, a burger and sandwich place similar to Red Robin.
>
> You saw a concert at Compton Terrace. When it was attached to Legend City.
>
> Your dad subscribed to the Phoenix Gazette(afternoon paper) and the
> Arizona Republic on Sunday.
>
> You remember when the Brass Armadillo antique mall was Angel's--a building
> supply warehouse similar to Home Depot.
>
> You remember when you got your building supplies from O'Malley's, Entz-White
> or Payless Cashways.
>
> You remember when the Phoenix Suns were the only professional sports team
> in the state, and they played their games at Phoenix Memorial Coliseum.
>
> Your groceries came from Alpha Beta, AJ Bayless, Lucky's, Neb's Market or
> Smitty's. Smitty's even had a little coffee shop attached to it.
>
> A night out consisted of family dinner at the Lunt Avenue Marble Club.
> Their deep fried mushrooms were the best.
>
> You remember when eastbound I-10 ended at Dysart Road. In order to
> continue east, you had to take McDowell or Thomas Road 15 miles to I-17 and
> head south. I-10 started up again somewhere east of downtown.
>
> You ate breakfast at Sambo's or Bob's Big Boy.
>
>
>
> You drove to Central and Thomas to have Strawberry Pie at Big Boy's because
> it was a car hop and they brought it to your car.
>
> You remember when houses were built with carports instead of garages.
> Roofs were covered with wood shakes or asphalt shingles instead of concrete
> tiles.
>
> You remember home builder's billboards that advertised interest rates of
> 11%
>
> Your aspirin and cough syrup came from Skagg's, Revco, Thrifty's, or Drug
> Emporium.
>
> Your shoes came from Buster Brown.
>
> You remember when CBS was on channel 10...ABC was on channel 3...and
> channels 5 and 15 were independent. Now, CBS is on channel 5...FOX is on
> channel 10...ABC is on channel 15...and channel 3 no longer has a network
> affiliation. NBC and PBS are the only ones that stayed on their original
> stations (channel 12 and 8, respectively).
>
> You remember when channel 15 broadcast pay-tv at night (It was called
> ON-TV).
>
> You spent hours watching early music videos on UHF channel 61. Due to the
> limited number of videos at the time, songs like 'Down Under', 'I Ran', and
> 'Come on, Eileen' were repeated quite often. You were lucky if you could get
> decent reception.
>
> You accompanied your dad to the True Value Hardware store in Westown in
> hopes of getting to stop at Baskin Robbins afterwards.
>
> You shopped at Valley West Mall before it became a ghost town, and was
> ultimately torn down.
>
> You shopped at Phoenix Spectrum Mall when it was known as Chris-Town.
>
> You woke up to Bruce Kelly in the morning on KZZP. Before that - Jonathon
> Brandmeier and his "loons"!
>
>
>
> You remember the only real rock and roll stations were KRIZ and KRUX in
> the 60's.
>
> You rode the 'Tico' to Park Central.
>
> You remember quality local programming like Open House with Rita Davenport
> or Sun Spots with Jan DiAtri.
>
> You accompanied your dad to the LaBelle's catalog showroom to buy your
> mom's Christmas present.
>
> Before he was governor, you remember Evan Mecham as the owner of a Pontiac
> dealership in Glendale.
>
> You remember when Castles 'n' Coasters was known as Golf 'n' Stuff.
>
> You remember when the entire state of Arizona only had one area code. Now,
> there are three in the Phoenix area alone.
>
> You remember when your phone number that started with '959' and it was
> changed to '840' and you never knew why.
>
> You remember when Scottsdale Fashion Square was an outdoor mall with
> Goldwater's, Bullocks and Leonard's luggage being the only stores.
>
> You remember when Goldwater's was bought out by Robinson May who was then
> bought out by Macy's.
>
> You remember when Diamonds was bought out by Dillards.
>
> You remember when Diamonds ticket box-was the only place to buy concert
> tickets.
>
> You remember when it hit 99* and that was considered HOT.
>
> You remember when Big Surf was the place to go to beat the heat. Then
> hitting the drive in to see the movie across the street.
>
> You remember when best ice cream was found at Thrifty's Drug Store, where
> .85 would get you three scoops.
>
> You remember when you wrote all your information down on a piece of paper
> and then your driver's license was mailed to you. It was very easy to change
> the 1968 to 1965 (because it was still in your hand writing) so that you
> could go to Devil House drinking because the drinking age was 19 years old.
>
> You remember when you could go to Devil House for dancing 'after hours'
> which was from 1am -3am.
>
> You remember going to see 'Rocky Horror Picture Show' at midnight on Mill
> Ave.
>
> You remember when 44th Street and Thomas was 'Thomas Mall'.
>
> You remember when 40th Street and Thomas was 'Tower Plaza'. And there
> were a few people that climbed to the top and threaten to jump.
>
> You remember when there was a canal at 48th.
>
> You remember when driving up Pima Rd and you could see for miles & miles
> because there was nothing east or north of Shea Rd. And it was very dark and
> scary.
>
> You remember when the only way to get to Shea Rd was thru 'Dreamy Draw
> Park' and there weren't any streetlights? Squaw Peak was only a name of a
> mountain. Not a highway.
>
> You remember when you saw a concert at Graham Central Station, because
> the band was not popular enough to fill Mesa Amphi Theater

downingthief
02-11-2008, 09:30 AM
Holy crap!

What a nice stroll down memory lane...good lord, I am old. And, I have lived here all my life, so I know most of those listed.

Jerm05
02-11-2008, 10:54 AM
haha...i don't get it

amyzzz
02-11-2008, 11:12 AM
I know about 70% of those. I did see Star Wars at the Cine Capri (and I worked there much later), I went ice-skating at Metro-Center, and there was a Farrell's not only at Metro-Center, but at Chris-Town as well. I used to live about a mile away from Chris-Town. I refuse to call it Spectrum Mall.

pdhow
02-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Wow..pretty cool.

I got a ladmo bag once. My parents threw me a surprise birthday party at Chuck E Cheese (back when the animals looked cooler) and they hired Ladmo to come and give the kids his bags with tootsie rolls in them. The girl scout chick was there as well. It was the coolest sub 16 birthday ever.

Someone did jump off the Tower at Tower Mall once. It was caught live on camera. I'm surprised no one has found it and put it on YouTube. But when they do....

Smitty's coffee shop had breakfast as well. It was pretty good. We'd go to the one on Central and Baseline. Back when South Phoenix was very different.

Thrifty's Ice Cream was for some reason the best. Now you can find Thrifty's Ice cream in any Water N Ice store.

Water N Ice stores!?!? I wander if we'll ever see another "remember when" like this one and go hey remember when there were Water N Ice stores everywhere.

downingthief
02-11-2008, 01:17 PM
I used to go to the Smitty's coffee shop on Shea and Tatum a lot as a kid.
Thrifty's store was on Catus and 32nd. I think it was a Yellowfront that it was next to...can't quite remember.

amyzzz
02-11-2008, 01:49 PM
Our old Gemco eventually became Fry's.

artisticcreator
02-11-2008, 03:03 PM
I was driving around with a friend the other day and we were talking about how much Phoenix and the Valley has changed in the 23 years that I've been here!
It's been fun to watch!

Mr. Dylanja
02-11-2008, 03:44 PM
I remember the ice rink, my mom and I would always get an Orange Julius and watch the skaters. I also liked the arcade after that, where they had the big spaceship ride in the middle, that was fun.

I also grew up near Christown, always loved the sand sculptures and Pizza D'Amor was the best, you ever go there Amy?

amyzzz
02-11-2008, 03:47 PM
Of course. That was my mall growing up. I used to walk to Chris-Town when I was a kid to buy a box of peanut butter boppers at Walgreen's.

captncrzy
02-11-2008, 07:43 PM
When I was a kid, I'd get really excited when my mom decided she needed to go to JC Penneys, which was at Chris-town mall, which had the best soft serve ice cream EVER at the little snack stand in the middle of the mall.


We used to spit onto the ice skating rink at Metro. and, you were a total loser as a kid if you didn't have your birthday party at the ice skating rink, followed by a trip to Farrell's.

denies the day
02-11-2008, 08:22 PM
Amy, I worked at Cine Capri around the time that Robin Hood with Kevin Costner came out. I also worked at all the Harkins before they blew up and bought almost all the other theaters. During the summer, we used to load up the Target shopping carts with the snow from the zamboni (when Tower Plaza had a skating rink, too) and crash derby them all over the parking lots. We did some outrageously juvenile shit back then. Thomas Mall was always a ghost town.

I'm still bitter I never got a Ladmo bag. I sent those motherfuckers HUNDREDS of postcards.

Anyone remember Pets On Parade?

pdhow
02-12-2008, 11:53 AM
Did any of you ever eat at the Indian Fried Bread place inside Christown?

It was the best.

If you don't know what I'm talking about. It was to the left after you walked in the main entrance. Opposite the Foot Locker underneath the 2nd level...

I remember for one day I went there, ordered a bean and cheese fried bread. Loaded it with that salsa they had, and noticed they had a Hawaiian Punch Icee machine. My beverage of choice in life was determined at that moment. Then the Hawaiian Punch Icee machine and shop disappeared only to become something entirely different.

So does anyone else remember this shop?

TomAz
02-12-2008, 06:25 PM
i don't remember any of this shit* but i'm reading this novel now about vietnam (Tree of Smoke by Denis Johnson) and in part of it this kid lives in Phoenix with his brother and his mom, he's 17 and they live at 56th & McDowell which is on the edge of the desert at the time, and he's thinking of enlisting, anyway he takes his girlfriend way out in the desert to Pima & Shea to have sex with her, which is really funny cuz there's a Barnes & Noble there now and that's where I bought the book.


* because i didn't move to arizona til 1996, but if you wanna talk about Houston in the oil boom days.. I remember we used to drive down south main by the astrodome to buy some beer and the whole street was thick with hookers right there in front of the Big Chief Motel.

pdhow
02-13-2008, 12:20 PM
They had hookers right outside the AstroDome? Didn't the Astros suck in those years. If so there is an explanation why.

Mr. Dylanja
02-13-2008, 02:23 PM
Well, that area was originally the "Ass n Hoes Home" but through a misinterpretation the Astrodome came to be. True story, ask Tom.

pdhow
02-15-2008, 11:44 AM
Thats funny...but no sorry. I think the Astrodome outdates the words Hoes. Unless we're talking being used as a noun meaning garden tool. But in that context I highly doubt that was its original name.

TomAz
02-15-2008, 11:32 PM
They had hookers right outside the AstroDome? Didn't the Astros suck in those years. If so there is an explanation why.

Astros won the NL West in 80 and 86.


Thats funny...but no sorry. I think the Astrodome outdates the words Hoes. Unless we're talking being used as a noun meaning garden tool. But in that context I highly doubt that was its original name.

predates. but yes you're right.

M Sparks
02-16-2008, 11:12 AM
> Mornings were spent watching 'The Wallace and Ladmo Show'. When it was
> over, it was time to leave for school. 'Ladmo Bags'.
>
http://www.wallacewatchers.com/fan/ladmobagwinners_janetnapalitano.jpg



> You remember when Metrocenter had a below-grade ice skating rink. Watching
> skaters from the overlook above was the best way to escape the summer heat.
seen at 3:40
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> You saw a concert at Compton Terrace. When it was attached to Legend City.
OK, this one confused me. I thought Legend City was out by the zoo. Were there two Compton Terraces?

I remember going to the very first Lollapalooza show of the first tour at CT. I was disappointed Ice-T didn't make any Compton jokes. (I guess I thought all rappers were from Compton.) However, Siousixe introduced a song "from our new album, Superstition Freeway".


> You shopped at Phoenix Spectrum Mall when it was known as Chris-Town.
With the big castle that Santa sat in at Christmas.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5883/1181/400/christ-town-mall-1960s.jpg


> You remember quality local programming like Open House with Rita Davenport
Followed at 9am by the KPHO Morning Movie! This week, it's "Beach Party" movies! Then you had the "Saturday Morning Movie", "World Beyond", "Action Theater", "Adventure Theater", and Bill Rocz's "Hollywood Greats" and "Family Classics"


> You remember when Diamonds ticket box-was the only place to buy concert
> tickets.
$2 flat fee. TWO DOLLARS!

M Sparks
02-16-2008, 11:14 AM
anyway he takes his girlfriend way out in the desert to Pima & Shea to have sex with her, which is really funny cuz there's a Barnes & Noble there now and that's where I bought the book.

People always say things are "really funny", but this actually is. And kind of spooky.

amyzzz
02-28-2008, 03:32 AM
The Cure is coming to the Dodge on June 4th. I seem to remember Jennifer wanting to see them. Tix on sale 2-29 10am.

jazzz
02-28-2008, 03:55 AM
I've always loved Arizona... is there a reason why I should not move there? I love the heat.. but need to have to have music venues/bars (DnB/House/Experimental/Indie) within walking distance of my flat... does this exist?

M Sparks
02-28-2008, 06:20 AM
The Cure is coming to the Dodge on June 4th. I seem to remember Jennifer wanting to see them. Tix on sale 2-29 10am.

I heard it was 10:15am. Yup, 10:15. No reason for anyone to log on before 10:10 or so. Nope. Nothing to see here.

(Shhhh...I'm trying to get a group of seven as close as possible...I don't need any more competition.)

M Sparks
02-28-2008, 06:21 AM
I've always loved Arizona... is there a reason why I should not move there? I love the heat.. but need to have to have music venues/bars (DnB/House/Experimental/Indie) within walking distance of my flat... does this exist?

Uhhhh...where's your flat?

amyzzz
02-28-2008, 06:39 AM
I heard it was 10:15am. Yup, 10:15. No reason for anyone to log on before 10:10 or so. Nope. Nothing to see here.

(Shhhh...I'm trying to get a group of seven as close as possible...I don't need any more competition.)
You're a bastard.

captncrzy
02-28-2008, 08:17 AM
Yeah I'm getting tix tomorrow. You?