The Girls Only Thread

[JustSteve]

i always find it funny when buying toilet paper and others are doing the same since we all know what you will be using it for. one time i saw a chick buying the generic cheap stuff and asked if she really wiped her ass with that.

[locachica73]

Toilet paper is not one of those items you can skimp on. I am sorry, charmin is the only way to go, unless you can afford babywipes all the time.

[amyzzz]

charmin ultra ftw

[locachica73]

triple rolls...

[amyzzz]

I love those mega rolls.

[miscorrections]

I always buy Charmin. Why save money just to chap your ass?

[JustSteve]

Toilet paper is not one of those items you can skimp on. I am sorry, charmin is the only way to go, unless you can afford babywipes all the time.

oh, we always make sure we can afford the wipes, too.

[locachica73]

you have young kids though right? My kids are teens so we no longer have use for the wipes but I use them at coachella, they travel easier than a roll of toilet paper. But in everyday life it's charmin.

And it isn't the chapping I worry so much about but the tearing I fear. Gross.

[obzen]

Babywipes at Coachella for the win.

[locachica73]

I also bring the makeup face cleaning wipes. They are great for the face througout the day to help cool off, less alcohol than the ass wipes so they don't dry out your face but leave you feeling cool and refreshed.

[obzen]

Noted.

Also, disinfectant spray/bleach for campground toilet seats.

Win.

[chiapet]

I think I might be in the minority here, but for me, the bathroom is FOR all those personal grooming activities like teeth brushing, makeup applying, and hair brushing, in addition to using the toilet. I think it's inappropriate to apply makeup, brush your hair, or otherwise take care of personal matters in a shared, public office space. It's fine for folks who have private offices with doors that can be shut, but if you're in a communal office space, I'd much rather have people go to the bathroom to do those sorts of things.

I feel the same way, but also get frustrated with people who use the sink area for excessively long times, especially when people are waiting to wash their hands. I brush teeth at work, but there are only 3 or 4 women on my floor so I'm not exactly blocking others' access to the facilities.

[chiapet]

I make toilet kits for festivals (I think loca does too??) - it's really the only reason I carry a bag in. Toilet paper, seat covers, wet wipes (baby wipe kind AND the alcohol germ killing kind) and purel. I leave the port-a-potties cleaner than when I went in.

[guedita]

I also bring the makeup face cleaning wipes. They are great for the face througout the day to help cool off, less alcohol than the ass wipes so they don't dry out your face but leave you feeling cool and refreshed.

What do you use? I've used Dove in the past and they work really well in terms of not leaving one's skin dry.

[locachica73]

POTTY PACKS!!! Yep, sanitizer, seat covers, ass wipes, all bought in the travel section, one for each day.

I can't remember the name of the face wipes I use, not dove though because I am allergic to thier products. It is one that target carries in thier travel pack section. I will look when I get home, I think I still have some left over.

[chiapet]

I just use Cottonelle brand wipes on my face. I would think most unscented baby wipes would be fine on your skin -- you would not use really alcohol-heavy wipes on a baby's bum, would you? I also take a handful of the literal alcohol+ wipes for hand cleaning.

[BROKENDOLL]

No, I have even tried doing the flush to distract myself... no luck. my bladder and other parts know the difference.
Loca, the next time you have to deal with your landlord, you need to get in the same mindset as your bladder. Be defiant! Get pissy. Better to be pissed off than pissed on, you know!

oh, we always make sure we can afford the wipes, too.
I'm sure with 2 small children and you, babywipes would be a necessity. BTW, when you asked that girl about her toilet paper choice, did she look at you and say, "For a douchebag, shouldn't you be buying Massengil instead?" Just curious.

I will say one thing after reading the last page or two here... None of you have anything to whine about in regards to sharing restrooms, until you've experienced sharing them with 2200 bitches in the same place... I can't begin to tell you how miserable the first few months were trying to adapt to the fact that my "litterbox time" was no longer private! Even when I was finally able to move up to sharing a room with only one person and one toilet, the damn thing was right there, 3 ft from our beds! Luckily, I usually ended up with "roommates" that shared the same respect and modesty I had in allowing that private time and keeping things clean. Speaking of clean, I used to think women had a natural tendency to want to keep the bathroom and shower area in order, but you wouldn't have thought that there. I usually arranged my schedule so I could be one of the first to use the showers. Otherwise, if you waited too long, not only was the water cold, but the showers were...nevermind...:nono Sounds funny, but if there was one thing I missed as much as my freedom for those 2 1/2 years...it was my own "litterbox" and shower/tub!

[locachica73]

reason #1,234 not to go to jail would be the fact that I would eventually explode from not being able to piss or shit. Add that to the no sex thing and I will remain a good girl (or a bad girl who doesn't get caught). :)

It's difficult enough when Nick is over for an entire weekend and I sneak into the second restroom if I think he is asleep enough and won't recognize I am gone.

[chiapet]

It's certainly nothing compared to prison, but I don't think I had much modesty left after 6 years of public school gym class (showers forced, and no curtains or stalls), and several years of college dorms.

You will think I'm completely nuts if I tell you my house, growing up, had one bathroom that did not have a lock and one bathroom that did not have a DOOR nor a shower curtain/door. If I was feeling modest, I'd pin a towel across the doorway. It was right at the top of our stairs too in view/earshot of everyone.

[locachica73]

my master bathroom has no door, i finally got to the point of being able to pee in there if nick is there.

I got kicked out of gym class about a month in on my freshman year due to asthma and passing out in class. So I never got past my modesty thing. I don't even like to change clothes in front of my true girlfriends who I talk about anything with. My modesty doesn't carry over into what I am willing to talk about, only into seeing me naked or hearing my bodily functions.

[TomAz]

No one's comfortable with other people in the restroom while they're doing their business.

This is the strangest thing I have read in the 226 pages of this thread.

[locachica73]

I find that if a man can point his ass and fart at you he is probably ok with taking a shit in a public restroom.

[JustSteve]

you have young kids though right? My kids are teens so we no longer have use for the wipes but I use them at coachella, they travel easier than a roll of toilet paper. But in everyday life it's charmin.

And it isn't the chapping I worry so much about but the tearing I fear. Gross.

no, we have the adult wipes that are toilet friendly. baby wipes are no good for that, don't want to f up the plumbing, plus they don't disintegrate so the sewage plant then has to deal with them.

[JustSteve]

Add that to the no sex thing and I will remain a good girl (or a bad girl who doesn't get caught). :)

gay for the stay

[locachica73]

gay for the stay

LOL, well if it came down to it I might switch sides, but I don't know. I don't mind making out with the occasional hot girl but other than that I like to stick to dudes.

[HowToDisappear]

This is the strangest thing I have read in the 226 pages of this thread.

No, it's not. That whole discussion was about public restrooms. And it's quite common for women to not be comfortable with other women hearing what they're doing while in the toilet stall, as natural and necessary as those functions may be. Seriously, if that was the strangest thing you've read here, you haven't been paying close attention.

[Courtney]

Yes, it is fairly common for women to be shy about using the toilet where other people can hear. Luckily(?), my college freshman and sophomore year dorm had unisex bathrooms with only flimsy shower curtains separating the stalls, so I got over any issues had then, as a matter of bladder survival.

And for the record, I do agree with Audra that doing something super intensive in a work bathroom that's more than just a touch-up, like using a curling iron or tweezers or clipping toenails, is not only inconsiderate but also totally tacky. That sort of stuff should be saved for home.

[TheWatcher]

Hey, a while back, there was a discussion about bras, someone has a friend who recommended the bra from that place with the "bounce-o-meter". It turned out to be a good recommendation.

I am wondering if that friend would also have recommendation for bras for everyday wear. (Since I also can't just go into a store to buy something, have to order online).

[chiapet]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4342758306_14af4d4ee5.jpg

Further evidence that I may not be female. (Does the ice cream work in my favor?)

[locachica73]

lol yes it does, and now I want some Ben & Jerry's.

The shoe obsession goes strongly in your favor for girly too. Although that could just mean your a black man, since most black men I dated use to have a pair of tennis to match every outfit.

[chiapet]

That's my brother with the tennis shoes. I only own a couple of pairs. My obsession favors boots.

[locachica73]

Would it shock you to know I now only own 2 pairs of shoes since my daughter took my other pair when she ran away? lol

[motionnn77]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4342758306_14af4d4ee5.jpg

Further evidence that I may not be female. (Does the ice cream work in my favor?)

Do you have 'Half-Baked' in there? Mmmmm.....my all time fave! Yummmmy!

[miscorrections]

You know what's the best? That Haagen-Dazs plain frozen yogurt. It's not as good as what you can get at the Asian yogurt places, but for stuff you don't have to leave the house for it's pretty dang good.

[locachica73]

I want some Ben & Jerry's chocolate fudge brownie or whatever its called now. I am not a fan of chocolate but that stuff makes me change my mind sometimes.

[chairmenmeow47]

i love those haagen-dazs ice-cream bars dipped in chocolate & nuts *drool*

[locachica73]

I wish they could just dip them in nuts and screw the chocolate. I usually pick off the chocolate and throw it out and just eat the ice cream.

[Courtney]

Mochi ice cream is my go-to. Mango or green tea, preferably.

But if I could get it here, I would be all about that hazelnut Ciao Bella gelato. Mmmmmmm

[miscorrections]

I fucking love hazelnut gelato. And pistachio gelato.

[locachica73]

ummm what's gelato?

[chairmenmeow47]

anything with pistachios is fucking awesome.

[Courtney]

Gelato is Italian ice cream. It's generally a little lower in fat, higher in sugar, and is stored at slightly warmer temperatures. It also has a shorter shelf life.

[miscorrections]

It's got the best mouthfeel.

[locachica73]

mouthfeel is always important.

[lizng]

How have I not noticed this thread before? Pardon me for barging in 227 pages deep.

Anyhow... gelato is pretty much the best dessert ever I love that it comes in flavors unfathomable in ice cream.

[locachica73]

Welcome to the girls only thread lizng. Some boys jump in occasionally but we usually just start talking about periods and they leave.

[lizng]

Thanks! It's amazing how big strong boys are no match for period-talk.

[Monklish]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

http://mar.baronelawyer.com/images/Breyer%20coffee%20half%20gal.gif

Breyer's Coffee ice cream. Possibly the best frozen dessert known to man. Infinitely superior to all other forms of coffee ice cream and quite possibly all other ice creams period if you're a real purist about it and like your ice cream without a bunch of crap in it.

Also their mint chocolate chip is similarly the best. Breyer's is way underappreciated. Actually I'm not even sure if it exists on the west coast, I don't think I ever bought it there.

[locachica73]

It does, I use to eat the strawberry and NATUREal vanilla, because it's made from nature. Sorry, I just went into commercial mode.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

http://mar.baronelawyer.com/images/Breyer%20coffee%20half%20gal.gif

Breyer's Coffee ice cream. Possibly the best frozen dessert known to man. Infinitely superior to all other forms of coffee ice cream and quite possibly all other ice creams period if you're a real purist about it and like your ice cream without a bunch of crap in it.

Also their mint chocolate chip is similarly the best. Breyer's is way underappreciated. Actually I'm not even sure if it exists on the west coast, I don't think I ever bought it there.

We do get Breyer's here and i love coffee ice cream

[Monklish]

Also I'll menstruate each and every one of you bitches right through the fucking floor. Try me.

[locachica73]

oh, i firmly believe men have a cycle as well, they just don't bleed.

[miscorrections]

Breyer's vanilla bean and their coffee are BOMB.

[chairmenmeow47]

we have breyers. i don't like anything with coffee in it, but i like the mint chocolate chip & vanilla bean. rocky road & oreos are always bomb too!!!

[miscorrections]

Rocky Road is terrible. What son of a bitch decided to put marshmallows in ice cream?

[locachica73]

Rocky Road is terrible. What son of a bitch decided to put marshmallows in ice cream?

I agree!!! gross.

[chairmenmeow47]

stay puff?

[Courtney]

Breyer's vanilla bean

THIS.

[lizng]

Rocky Road is terrible. What son of a bitch decided to put marshmallows in ice cream?


a person without a soul. it's the worst.

[herro kitty]

Rocky Road is the best!!! The marshmallows and almonds are little happy delicious surprises with every spoonful of ice cream!!!!!

[chairmenmeow47]

Rocky Road is the best!!! The marshmallows and almonds are little happy delicious surprises with every spoonful of ice cream!!!!!

i knew there was a reason i liked you!

[locachica73]

I just don't like that many chunks in my ice cream. I like chew free ice cream for the most part. And I have never liked marshmellows. ew

[herro kitty]

I love chunky peanut butter, too. I like lots of stuff in my food to chew on :)

Have any of you guys tried using Dr. Bronner's Magical Soap that apparently has 18-in-1 uses? I've been using it to wash my hair and I lose so much fewer hair strands than anything I've used before. I'm ecstatic :)

[sames44]

ice cream + nuts = yum
just discovered this:
http://thinkhousepr.mediaspaceltd.com/assets/95/A8895006-E4C3-F6D8-A9ED366A38CA662C_mainImage/Chocolate_macademia_open.jpg

[littlewolf]

Have any of you guys tried using Dr. Bronner's Magical Soap that apparently has 18-in-1 uses? I've been using it to wash my hair and I lose so much fewer hair strands than anything I've used before. I'm ecstatic :)

I used it as a kid (hello, NorCal hippy mom!) and hated it. It always seemd to make my hair and skin coarse and rough.
Love the smell though :)

[J~$$$$]

orofludio. My wife works for colomer/revlon/american crew. Orofulido is the new magic thing.

[chiapet]

Do you have 'Half-Baked' in there? Mmmmm.....my all time fave! Yummmmy!

I do. But sometimes I like it and sometimes it tastes awful to me. I am uber allergic to nuts and some times it tastes nutty to me, and that puts me off it. Plus, despite the freezer full, I actually do not really like ice cream?? I just started eating it a year ago (I hadn't really had it since I was a kid).


Breyer's is way underappreciated. Actually I'm not even sure if it exists on the west coast, I don't think I ever bought it there.

I suspect your bias is due to your geography, but I have the same leaning. It's what I grew up eating. The only reason I do not buy it is because I can never find small containers here - it takes me many months to go through a half-gallon of ice cream and it just ends up becoming freezer burnt. Plus my freezer is not big enough to hold much, and I like variety. That's why there is so much ice cream in my freezer. They're all different ones, hehehe.

Breyer's strawberry and vanilla bean are probably my favorite ice creams, but Haagen-Dazs vanilla bean is pretty great too.

Current ice cream fixation is raspberry white chocolate swirl or some such nonsense. It is so rich that I can barely eat it. Which is a good thing, I think. I have a few spoonfuls and then am done.

[ballroomdancer22]

vaginal secretions>vaginal "ejecaulation"

eh? eh?

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

vaginal secretions>vaginal "ejecaulation"

eh? eh?

No.

[ballroomdancer22]

fucking prude.....hope you run into some vagina that tastes like sandpaper when you attempt to eat it

[chiapet]

Tastes? or feels? i'm not sure I know what sandpaper tastes like, as I have never put it on my tongue.

[Drinkey McDrinkerstein]

oh, I misread that. i thought you said that "secretions = ejaculations"

never mind

[amyzzz]

orofludio. My wife works for colomer/revlon/american crew. Orofulido is the new magic thing.

I read the description on the website, and it sounds like it just moisturizes the hair -- nothing about keeping hair in. And it's OroFluido.

[lau-lau]

Also I'll menstruate each and every one of you bitches right through the fucking floor. Try me.

Not difficult - thanks to the modern wonder that is contraceptive injections, some of us don't menstruate.

[thewindowliquor]

I am uber allergic to nuts

...

[ballroomdancer22]

this thread makes me feel warm and fuzzy

[chiapet]

...

I obviously meant peanuts, almonds, that sort of thing. Not that I'd be a fan of any other sort of nuts on my ice cream.

[TheWatcher]

I obviously meant peanuts, almonds, that sort of thing. Not that I'd be a fan of any other sort of nuts on my ice cream.

:rotfl

[guedita]

A girl I used to do theater with as a kid made this video in response to the Dodge Charger Superbowl commercial.

ou5Ens-qNRc

[GeezrRckr]

A girl I used to do theater with as a kid made this video in response to the Dodge Charger Superbowl commercial.

ou5Ens-qNRc

only because, like me, many of you might not have seen that lame car commercial which inspired the one above, here ya go.

2RyPamyWotM

i like your friend's better, cara.

(and not just saying that to score points here...the whole premise was ass)

[GeezrRckr]

we need something funny here to balance the nonsense from above.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-3-2010/male-inequality
(sorry, not YT to embed...but, def worth the click-through!)

samantha bee is my secret crush.

[lizng]

"attention middle aged vagina men"... ha! that was great.

[Ha.SK]

http://img.wizwid.com/PImg/750704/bsc/750704083h.jpg
just purchased online and it was on sale =)

i think im happy with it but we will see once i try it on.

[kitt kat]

Rocky Road is the best!!! The marshmallows and almonds are little happy delicious surprises with every spoonful of ice cream!!!!!

My all time favorite ice cream. Rocky Road kicks major ass. Yum.

[motionnn77]

I do. But sometimes I like it and sometimes it tastes awful to me. I am uber allergic to nuts and some times it tastes nutty to me, and that puts me off it. Plus, despite the freezer full, I actually do not really like ice cream?? I just started eating it a year ago (I hadn't really had it since I was a kid).



I suspect your bias is due to your geography, but I have the same leaning. It's what I grew up eating. The only reason I do not buy it is because I can never find small containers here - it takes me many months to go through a half-gallon of ice cream and it just ends up becoming freezer burnt. Plus my freezer is not big enough to hold much, and I like variety. That's why there is so much ice cream in my freezer. They're all different ones, hehehe.

Breyer's strawberry and vanilla bean are probably my favorite ice creams, but Haagen-Dazs vanilla bean is pretty great too.

Current ice cream fixation is raspberry white chocolate swirl or some such nonsense. It is so rich that I can barely eat it. Which is a good thing, I think. I have a few spoonfuls and then am done.

I remember Breyer's as a kid. I like a lot of variety in my ice cream. Hence, the Half-Baked...Yum!

[motionnn77]

only because, like me, many of you might not have seen that lame car commercial which inspired the one above, here ya go.

2RyPamyWotM

i like your friend's better, cara.

(and not just saying that to score points here...the whole premise was ass)

My man LOVES this ad! Especially the 3rd guy, because, yeah, he does watch vampire shows. I think he likes them more than he admits. He even wrote a vamp script that a few production companies have shown interest.

(But the above can mean anything from 'Let's make a feature' to having your script sit on a shelf for 10 years).

[Bud Luster]

So you give a guy your email addy, thats like a brush off right?

[lizng]

Some people consider that a brush off, but I've given guys my email address before because I hate phones.

[chiapet]

I wouldn't necessarily say it's a brush off, but there's usually a reason you got an email address instead of a phone number. Some of us just don't give phone numbers to strangers -- easier to ignore or change your email address than your phone number.

[HowToDisappear]

Ladies, add me to the list with thinning hair. Been growing my hair out for almost two years. My plan was to cut it very, very short - which I prefer - after I lost weight. So I lost the weight. But I noticed afterward that I was shedding lots of hair(!). At first I thought I was just noticing it more because my hair was a lot longer than usual. But no. My part is wider and you can definitely see my scalp in places at my hairline.

I never knew that losing weight can cause your follicles to go into shutdown mode. Bleh. I've been maintaining the weight loss for the last 4 months and I'm noticing little short hairs growing at my hairline and poking up through the long hair on my scalp. And that's good. But it only appears to be about 1/3 to 1/2 of the hair I've lost. That's bad.

So I've jumped on the sulfate-free shampoo bandwagon. John Masters Organics. And I started taking hair vitamins. Here's hoping. Of course, it may not be the weight loss at all. If it's hormones (I'll find out at my annual), I think I may have to say goodbye to a thick head of hair.

[amyzzz]

Sorry to hear that, HtD. I figure if I had a super-pretty face, or a nice-shaped head, I could just go bald, but I look better with hair framing my face.

[Courtney]

If nothing else, we've learned from Bret Michaels that there's always bandannas and hair extensions.

[HowToDisappear]

I want it super short. I'm afraid if I do, you'll see thin spots. At least long hair disguises it. And if it were socially acceptable, I probably would shave it all off. Then I wouldn't have to worry at all.

[chairmenmeow47]

man, sorry to hear, HTD. the thought of ever losing my hair scares the shit outta me.

[rskapcat]

See, I think thinning is much more noticeable with long hair than short. (Think old male hippies that won't give up the sad thin ponytail.) Depending on how you style it, short hair could disguise thin spots.

[kitt kat]

Thin hair runs in my mom's family. My grandma wears a wig because her hair is so thin. My aunt wears her all spiked up and crazy to hide the bald spots. My mom has very thin, brittle hair. My uncle is bald (shaves it because his hair is so thin)...

And I'm the only female cousin who got it. FML. My sister and cousins have beautiful, thick hair. Ugh.

[HowToDisappear]

I have a friend who's a hair dresser. She suggested Nioxin to me, but I wanted to try the natural route first to see what happens. I'll ask her if she thinks there's enough there to do what I want with it.

And thinning hair was definitely never on my list of Things to Consider When You Get Older.

[GeezrRckr]

HTD, i'd recommend trying this stuff out. don't let the "men" labeling deter you. even though i'm lucky enough to (still) have all my hairs, i'm at the age when i need to think about it. this stuff has definitely slowed down the amount of hairs that were collecting on the shower drain.
http://www.aubrey-organics.com/images/products/product%20images/175_290/mens%20stock/mensshampoo_big.jpg

http://www.aubrey-organics.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=4001

good luck.

[miscorrections]

Every time I shower I lose a solid handful of hair but it still takes over 6 hours to dry and doesn't seem to look any different. My hair is unnaturally thick; it always surprises and irritates hairdressers.

[HowToDisappear]

The ingredients are similar to the John Masters I've started using. A few differences. Your shampoo also includes a few things that are in my vitamin supplement. And it's half the price. Thanks for the link.

[amyzzz]

I used Nioxin for a couple weeks, and it made my fine, oily hair seem extra greasy. I couldn't handle that anymore so I gave up.

[chiapet]

Every time I shower I lose a solid handful of hair but it still takes over 6 hours to dry and doesn't seem to look any different. My hair is unnaturally thick; it always surprises and irritates hairdressers.

I lose a disgusting amount of hair. Like, I find gobs of hair anywhere I am for a length of time -- couch, desk, bathroom. TONS of hair in my washing machine filter. I have to get my tub drain snaked like once a year. If I dye my hair, I lose literally a couple of handfuls of hair. It kind of freaks me out, but...

My mom had a good point that in any normal situation, it's a percentage of your hair that is being cycled out, so if you have a ton of hair follicles, you're going to lose a lot more strands of hair than someone with less actual hairs.

[Bud Luster]

Some people consider that a brush off, but I've given guys my email address before because I hate phones.


I wouldn't necessarily say it's a brush off, but there's usually a reason you got an email address instead of a phone number. Some of us just don't give phone numbers to strangers -- easier to ignore or change your email address than your phone number.

Turns out it wasnt a brush off at all. Just doesnt give the # out to strangers. I can dig it.

[chairmenmeow47]

yeah, didn't really sound like brushoff to me but you never know. i generally just give the number of someone i don't like when i'm brushing someone off :p

and note to self, never say hi to the new guy. he's asked me out TWICE in the last hour after i mentioned having a boyfriend several times.

[chiapet]

That's just weird and creepy, Ivy. Everyone knows you don't ask out coworkers until you've sussed out the likelihood that they'll share details with everyone else at the office.

[chairmenmeow47]

seriously!!! he seems like an annoying waiter at heart though, so maybe it's just his personality.

and i also have thick hair. i'm constantly losing it, but you can't tell. hairdresses are always fascinated because it's completely straight so you don't notice at first how thick it is. i hope that continues through life!!! both my parents have good hair though *crosses fingers*

[kitt kat]

My boyfriend sheds hair twice as much as I do, but he's far from balding. His hair is so luxuriously thick. Want to trade :(

[herro kitty]

HTD, I'm sorry to hear that it's happening to you, too. It's so painful for me to shower because I don't want to see my hair on my hands instead of my head. I heard it's important to shower once a day if you have thinning hair because you want to keep your scalp clean and healthy so you don't suffocate any growing hair.. but it makes my heart heavy. Nothing seems to help. That shampoo that I mentioned earlier makes my hair look so dull and gross after a few days of using it.

I loved having long hair.. now I can't keep it longer than my armpit before the strands split and hair loss seems to increase. Sigh.

[HowToDisappear]

Barb, please don't be discouraged. I assume you have mandatory school health insurance at your college. You should be able to get a physical at the student health clinic at no or low cost to you, right? Make an appointment with the doctor/nurse practitioner. Don't be embarrassed or think this isn't something worthy of a visit. I intend to discuss this with my doctor at my upcoming annual (but in the meantime, nice organic shampoo and vitamins can't hurt). You just need to make sure the doctor gives you a nice, clean bill of health. That's the real priority. Hair thins as you age, but you are awfully young for this. And it's obviously causing you a great deal of distress, which doesn't help the situation either. See the doctor, hear what he/she has to say, and go on from there.

[kitt kat]

WANT TO GO IN LOST THREAD
COULDN'T WATCH BECAUSE I HAD WORK
MUST HIDE HERE

[amyzzz]

I think I mentioned before, Barb, that my (dermatologist) doctor recommended iron supplements every day for 6 months because it takes 6 months for your iron levels to build up, and iron deficiency can be a cause of hair loss. Sadly for me, I'm not sure if that helped. My doctor had me get off iron after 6 months and told me to start eating an iron-rich diet, but I don't really eat a whole lot of foods with iron in it. (argh). I think it's best to have a doctor monitoring your use of iron supplements, so be careful.

[herro kitty]

I always forget to check the threads I posted! Sorry!


Barb, please don't be discouraged. I assume you have mandatory school health insurance at your college. You should be able to get a physical at the student health clinic at no or low cost to you, right? Make an appointment with the doctor/nurse practitioner. Don't be embarrassed or think this isn't something worthy of a visit. I intend to discuss this with my doctor at my upcoming annual (but in the meantime, nice organic shampoo and vitamins can't hurt). You just need to make sure the doctor gives you a nice, clean bill of health. That's the real priority. Hair thins as you age, but you are awfully young for this. And it's obviously causing you a great deal of distress, which doesn't help the situation either. See the doctor, hear what he/she has to say, and go on from there.

Thanks HTD, but I don't have insurance with the school. We have to have our own, and I just have emergency room insurance :x hehe. There is a "nurse's office" here, and I will try to go to that. Maybe they can refer me or something.


I think I mentioned before, Barb, that my (dermatologist) doctor recommended iron supplements every day for 6 months because it takes 6 months for your iron levels to build up, and iron deficiency can be a cause of hair loss. Sadly for me, I'm not sure if that helped. My doctor had me get off iron after 6 months and told me to start eating an iron-rich diet, but I don't really eat a whole lot of foods with iron in it. (argh). I think it's best to have a doctor monitoring your use of iron supplements, so be careful.


Oh, I did not know that about iron! I gave up meat for Lent because I thought I was getting enough with my daily vitamin supplement.. but now I think I'll jump back on.. bloop.



On a more fun note,

Did I tell you guys that I think I'm in love??? And that I'm in a monogamous relationship now?? This is my first real relationship @_@ I'm new to this "caring about someone else other than yourself" bit.. but I'm working on it :) The days are a little sweeter now :)

[chairmenmeow47]

awwww, adorable barb, congratulations :)

[guedita]

Milk is good for keeping your hair healthy, too.

Falling in love is the best. Enjoy it!

[Courtney]

Awww yay! So who is the lucky person?

[herro kitty]

Hehe, thanks guys. I met him when I was visiting friends in Pittsburgh for the weekend in October. I basically picked him up at his own bar. I thought it was just going to be a one night stand, too. Haha! Here is what I wrote in my secret journal when I went home :):




He runs this bar in Pittsburgh that I went to. He plays the ukelele and electric violin and started this free music school next to his house! The thing that makes me swoon the most is that he is so humble and kind and that his awesome personality just emanates from his heart and smile. He doesn't try to put up a facade. He adores everyone around him and all his friends seem to love him wholeheartedly right back. I only hung out with him for one afternoon but his outlook on life made me reconsider mine a little. I know some more qualities I'll be looking for in guys now :)

I'm not saying he's perfect. I know I'm not in love with him. I just met him. I know I didn't affect him as much as he has affected me, either. I just felt that his aura is pure and loving.

Knowing that I can be happy for someone without wanting anything in return is relieving; I was getting worried that I was a frigid bitch who is too jaded and is suspicious of all men. Well, I think I still am. But maybe a little less now....

He is a real hottie ♥ _______ ♥ I hope I can talk to him again one day. But if I don't, that is alright, too.

Hehehe. So we kept talking and really clicked. We visited each other a few times (he's 4 hours away from me, which fucking sucks) and... I like him a lot now.

Long distance sucks though. And I'll be moving back to LA in about a year and a half. I'm just going with the flow. Whatever happens, happens :)


Milk is good for keeping your hair healthy, too.

Falling in love is the best. Enjoy it!

Drinking milk? Or bathing in milk maybe? Also, I agree with you about the falling in "L" :)

[Pixiessp]

Barbara, you're a doll.

[GeezrRckr]

sweet.

[Ha.SK]

so here i am planning a get away for me and my lover (b/c boyfriend sounds so corny). I got a hotel reservation but i have to tell him to ask for the night off. i tell him i just want to take him out for the night but dont specify that we are going out of town.

now he's decided to try and rent a beach front hotel room since "we are both going to be off for 3 days."
i think im going to have to tell him whats up.

[Courtney]

so here i am planning a get away for me and my lover (b/c boyfriend sounds so corny). I got a hotel reservation but i have to tell him to ask for the night off. i tell him i just want to take him out for the night but dont specify that we are going out of town.

now he's decided to try and rent a beach front hotel room since "we are both going to be off for 3 days."
i think im going to have to tell him whats up.

Aw, sounds like you might have to spill the beans. But can you tell him that you made plans to do something totally lame that he would hate (like visiting your family or something super girly), so that when you finally do tell the truth him he will still be surprised?

[Kyle_Anne]

so here i am planning a get away for me and my lover (b/c boyfriend sounds so corny). I got a hotel reservation but i have to tell him to ask for the night off. i tell him i just want to take him out for the night but dont specify that we are going out of town.

now he's decided to try and rent a beach front hotel room since "we are both going to be off for 3 days."
i think im going to have to tell him whats up.

damn if my significant other would surprise me with that i would be the happiest girl in the world... i must say he is lucky to have you as his girl! dont spill the beans! surprise surprise surprise!

[Ha.SK]

update* i told him. He told me he was about to book a room for $400. i cursed, then told him the truth. but we are both happy and i cant wait.

besides i kinda owe him since all i did for v-day is make him a card.

[chairmenmeow47]

probably best to spill the beans. while surprises are nice, i know i'd kinda like to have some advance notice if i'm leaving town, unless it's just a few hours north or something. but i'm a planner like that :p what a sweet idea though!!!! he's lucky to have you!

ugh, and i'm so sick of this chatty kathy at our work. she ALWAYS makes it a point to ask me something work related the SECOND i get in that is of complete unimportance or about her fucking kid which means dick all to me. this morning she starts talking to me while i'm in the middle of blowing my fucking nose.

i feel bad sometimes cause i'm not as chatty as the other girls here, but it always turns to gossip and i don't want to be a part of that.

[Hannahrain]

Offer redeemed.

[Bud Luster]

I do, but I only wear Mac.

[miscorrections]

I've been a bad girl and bought five pairs of shoes. Because if there's anything I totally need more of, that's it. Although I am loving the HELL out of my patent oxfords, and I'd wanted to get some for years ever since I saw the Prada (?) silver patent oxfords (for guys) years ago. It still bums me out to this day those were only made for men and not for women. I'm not entirely sure a guy, no matter how fashionable/gay/whatever, could really get away with those.

[amyzzz]

Silver?? :cat

[miscorrections]

Mine are just black patent but someday I'll find some silver ones. Quality silver ones, anyway. I'm sure it's not TOO hard to find generic silver oxfords.

[chiapet]

I'd love some silver loafers too. Find them for us, Amy! :)

[chairmenmeow47]

i looooooooooove loafers. i used to put dimes in mein since i could never make the penny fit. i have some nice, tan leather antonio melani loafer heels. too bad my back is still too shitty to wear heels :(

[Courtney]

Happy Girls' Day! I'm spending the day lying in bed catching up on old issues of Vogue and Artforum (I'm sick), but I really should be spending that day reading Vogue anyway. So it all works out.

[Courtney]

Also, Barbara I don't think I ever responded saying how adorable your post was, because it seemed self-evident. But it was.

Awww :pulse

[amyzzz]

I lolled about recently reading my daughter's Teen Vogue. It was fun, and all the girl models have my shape so it makes me feel better about myself.

(guilty pleasure for me though)

[Courtney]

I haven't ever checked out Teen Vogue, but I definitely have a guilty pleasure love-hate relationship with US Weekly. I only let myself "read" it at the gym. So bad but so good!

[miscorrections]

I haven't read a good girl mag in foreeeever. I remember Cosmo used to be my guilty pleasure.

[amyzzz]

I allowed myself to be conned into getting subscribed to InStyle at Ulta. The last issue had some decent tips, especially with the new up-do hairstyles.

[chairmenmeow47]

I haven't ever checked out Teen Vogue, but I definitely have a guilty pleasure love-hate relationship with US Weekly. I only let myself "read" it at the gym. So bad but so good!

my guilty pleasure as well. my mom subscribes to US so whenever i'm over there that's the first thing i look for. i do read some of the shit in there, but i mainly just like looking at all the fashion.

[motionnn77]

I've been a bad girl and bought five pairs of shoes. Because if there's anything I totally need more of, that's it. Although I am loving the HELL out of my patent oxfords, and I'd wanted to get some for years ever since I saw the Prada (?) silver patent oxfords (for guys) years ago. It still bums me out to this day those were only made for men and not for women. I'm not entirely sure a guy, no matter how fashionable/gay/whatever, could really get away with those.


Now this IS heaven!

[motionnn77]

I haven't read a good girl mag in foreeeever. I remember Cosmo used to be my guilty pleasure.

I get manicures every 2 weeks. I read girly stuff there. Sometimes on car trips to Vegas and Mammoth, but I tend to read more super-natural fiction.

[chiapet]

I'm not sure what my girly guilty pleasure is. Buying makeup constantly even though I don't wear it most days?

[Courtney]

Heidi, I would say that counts.

[Courtney]

The cute Japanese tourist girls and young women who I see walking around Waikiki and other attractions seem to all have the same hairdo these days -- long, dyed reddish brown, and curled into loose Miley Cyrus style tendrils. It makes me a little sad because I would kill to have their thick, stick straight black natural hair.

[chiapet]

I see that a lot here too, and wolf cuts, which is a sort of like a really long, kind of emo asian mullet.

[StubbADubb]

Just saying hello :) - anyone doing any special diets/cleanses or exercise plans for the month? I haven't worked out since last summer, been eating like crap and pretty much been drunk since November. This month I'm eating clean, cutting out all booze and re-instating my love affair with spin class.

All so it'll get blown again come Coachella ;)

Misscorrections: have you see the sweet patent oxfords by Jeffrey Campbell at Solestruck (best shoe store ever, I'm a JC addict!):
http://www.solestruck.com/jeffrey-campbell-uniform-teal-patent/index.html

[motionnn77]

Since Jan., I've snowboarded (fairly hard core) 13 days, worked out an average of 5 days a week and aerial work 2 to 3 days a week.

Diet?? Not drinking as much, taking lots of supplements to keep immune system up. I kinda eat what I want, but I never want to eat huge amounts of junk, just tortilla chips.

Btw, there are these little blue water capsules you can get at CVS that will give you a flatter tummy for the day. You just need to double hydrate when you take them. They work, but be careful w/ them in the desert.

[StubbADubb]

Since Jan., I've snowboarded (fairly hard core) 13 days, worked out an average of 5 days a week and aerial work 2 to 3 days a week.

Diet?? Not drinking as much, taking lots of supplements to keep immune system up. I kinda eat what I want, but I never want to eat huge amounts of junk, just tortilla chips.

Btw, there are these little blue water capsules you can get at CVS that will give you a flatter tummy for the day. You just need to double hydrate when you take them. They work, but be careful w/ them in the desert.

Do you have the name of them? My stomach has been bloated since I can remember...actually getting checked out for Crohn's just in case. And even when I lose a bunch of weight, the little pooch sticks around (though the pooch and my constant bloating are maybe not related).

[miscorrections]

Misscorrections: have you see the sweet patent oxfords by Jeffrey Campbell at Solestruck (best shoe store ever, I'm a JC addict!):
http://www.solestruck.com/jeffrey-campbell-uniform-teal-patent/index.html

Yes, I love those but I like these even more:

http://www.ma-petite-chou.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Jeffrey-Campbell-SARAID-2.jpg

I've also been lusting after these for a long time, because I LOVE leopard print pony hair:

http://intheircloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/jeffrey-campbell-tick-cheetah-print-platform-wedges.jpg

And I can't find a great picture, but I bought these

http://www.zappos.com/images/728/7287378/1396-349757-t.jpg

a few years ago and I am so glad I did. Comfy & adorable.

[StubbADubb]

Those oxfords are sweet...I really wanted a pair of Marc Jacob-esque gold ones (I think JC had them) but then I don't know if it's really me. A lot of people look really cool in oxfords, I don't think I have the legs/style to pull it off...not sure what I would wear it with either.

I got the Jeffrey Campbell Marly heels in a furry leopard print, I love em...just a bitch to walk in! Wish I wasn't a spazz in heels.http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n302/karinahalle/halloween331.jpg

[miscorrections]

I used to be pro at walking in heels. My heel-wearing has steadily declined over the past few years, though, so now I look like one of those crazy disjointed walkers, like I'm learning how to walk on my hind legs. I need to get back in practice because a) I look stupid, b) I have to take small steps, and c) I can't walk anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

[IDCrisis]

The cute Japanese tourist girls and young women who I see walking around Waikiki and other attractions seem to all have the same hairdo these days -- long, dyed reddish brown, and curled into loose Miley Cyrus style tendrils. It makes me a little sad because I would kill to have their thick, stick straight black natural hair.
You know what's even sadder, Courtney?
I would shave my head bald if it meant I could live in Waikiki...:)
And, a confession....I discovered the EPSY site the other night...Anyone else stumble into that shopping bonanza before? I may have gotten an idea for some of these shoes I have laying around that otherwise should be tossed...

[StubbADubb]

I used to be pro at walking in heels. My heel-wearing has steadily declined over the past few years, though, so now I look like one of those crazy disjointed walkers, like I'm learning how to walk on my hind legs. I need to get back in practice because a) I look stupid, b) I have to take small steps, and c) I can't walk anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

Same here. It's fine if I know I'll be standing around, but if I'm walking, forget it. I just feel a lot more confident in flat/low wedges knowing I can run if I want to and not teeter around everywhere. Which is funny cuz most girls say they feel most confident IN heels. Sadly, high heels for me = 3 inches. I can do a 5 inch wedge if the front of the shoe is raised 2 inches, but 3 for the arch. Stupid deformed feet of mine.

There are some heels that I keep trying to wear but it never gets better. I get that whole unable to straighten leg problem. I should take a course. I heard there are some vids on Youtube, lol (not that I've tried to uh, learn that way and failed.)

[miscorrections]

I used to think 3" was perfect but they look so short to me now. For me a proper pair of heels is between 4" and 5", or else they fall under the "cute" category and not the "sex bandit" category.

What mostly bums me out is I have no occasion to even break them out. My studded mary jane (fake but really good fake) Loubs have only been out once.

[StubbADubb]

I used to think 3" was perfect but they look so short to me now. For me a proper pair of heels is between 4" and 5", or else they fall under the "cute" category and not the "sex bandit" category.

What mostly bums me out is I have no occasion to even break them out. My studded mary jane (fake but really good fake) Loubs have only been out once.

I know what you mean...if I could wear higher than three, I would (which is why I love platforms). I'll never be a sex bandit lol. Although, lately there have been a lot of bad-ass boots out there which is great. I love boots in all seasons, if I had some extra cash to spare, I would get these:
http://www.solestruck.com/jeffrey-campbell-berlin-black-gold/index.html#

Then thinking ahead for Spring I saw these shoes on Shopbop:
http://www.shopbop.com/savina-twisted-wedge-sandals-pour/vp/v=1/845524441857361.htm?folderID=2534374302079716&fm=browse-brand-shopbysize

I used to buy expensive shoes at times, but I can't justify the price anymore (being unemployed helps with that). I just Tweeted about them and how my plane ticket to San Fran + FNM tickets cost LESS than the shoes...then a fashion blogger popped up on my feed and said "I bought those shoes!" must be nice, lol.

[miscorrections]

Pour La Victoire makes really nice shoes. For expensive stuff I also really like L'Autre Chose, Sam Edelman, Etro, and Guiseppe Zanotti.

One of the best pairs of ankle boots I've seen in a long time is this pair of Sam Edelmans:

http://images.footnotesonline.com/f/726/16199/12h/www.footnotesonline.com/assets/product_images/Sam-Edelman-Zoe-Black-325.jpg

Every blogger in the world apparently has them, but I totally get it because they are PERFECT.

[chiapet]

I pretty much think every pair of shoes you girls post is hideous. But that's good because I feel no temptation to buy.

Corinna, I used to wear 4" heels (higher if they had a platform) to work every single day. It started when I worked in a designer shoe store in college, and we were required to wear heels. It got to the point where wearing flats actually made my legs hurt. However, moving to SF changed all that, and after not wearing heels for 10 years, I am miserable in them. I've been easing back in via high heeled boots. :D

[StubbADubb]

Pour La Victoire makes really nice shoes. For expensive stuff I also really like L'Autre Chose, Sam Edelman, Etro, and Guiseppe Zanotti.

One of the best pairs of ankle boots I've seen in a long time is this pair of Sam Edelmans:

http://images.footnotesonline.com/f/726/16199/12h/www.footnotesonline.com/assets/product_images/Sam-Edelman-Zoe-Black-325.jpg

Every blogger in the world apparently has them, but I totally get it because they are PERFECT.

Agreed. That's the problem with the "it" shoes - once they hit bloggerville, they explode. Everyone was wearing the Acne wedges, the Ash booties, Chloe Sevigny Buckle boots...which is why I like JC, they seem to do a lot of "knock-off types" but still be kind of original and cheaper.

Did you get the Mad Mary studded Loubs? Those are amazing :)

[miscorrections]

Did anyone see DSquared2's shoes in their Paris fashion week collection? So brilliant. I would buy these in a heartbeat if I had the money.

http://dopeambition.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/6a00e54f95ac81883401310f3ff17f970c-800wi-1.jpg?w=500&h=2896

[miscorrections]

Yeah I got the Mad Marys. Well, imitation. There are a few differences but most people wouldn't know enough to notice.

[matildawong]

Ooh, miscorrections, I love the last pair with the Mary Jane feel. I am a Mary Jane person. In shoes, I mean. And I, too, have some great pairs of higher high heels that do not get broken out of the boxes nearly enough.

[miscorrections]

My favorite of those runway shoes is the first pair. Ankle boots with a vertebral column heel? Yes please.

[StubbADubb]

Love that second pair - cuff + vertabrae heel = genius. Sexy/Edgy.

Last pair of shoes I bought was JC 99s and that was November. I think that's a record for me. Think I might start selling some shoes on Ebay so I can get some extra cash - I have a retarded amount of shoes and on order to buy without guilt, I usually have to part with a few pairs. Either that or hit up Go Jane.

[miscorrections]

Yeah I've been thinking it's time to inventory my clothes/shoes and do something with a certain percentage of them.

[motionnn77]

Do you have the name of them? My stomach has been bloated since I can remember...actually getting checked out for Crohn's just in case. And even when I lose a bunch of weight, the little pooch sticks around (though the pooch and my constant bloating are maybe not related).


Damn! I just threw a container out yesterday, although I still have the pills. The are called water pills, (I think). Go to the feminine section @ CVS, look for over the counter PMS stuff and you will find them in there. It will say no caffeine on the container. It's in a rectangular package, so you have to pop the capsule out individually.

[motionnn77]

Yes, I love those but I like these even more:

http://www.ma-petite-chou.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Jeffrey-Campbell-SARAID-2.jpg

I've also been lusting after these for a long time, because I LOVE leopard print pony hair:

http://intheircloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/jeffrey-campbell-tick-cheetah-print-platform-wedges.jpg

And I can't find a great picture, but I bought these

http://www.zappos.com/images/728/7287378/1396-349757-t.jpg

a few years ago and I am so glad I did. Comfy & adorable.

I have the knee high version of the cheetah ones, but w/ fake fur/hair.

[chiapet]

Think I might start selling some shoes on Ebay so I can get some extra cash - I have a retarded amount of shoes and on order to buy without guilt, I usually have to part with a few pairs. Either that or hit up Go Jane.

I've been thinking about doing that too (I don't even want to think about how many pairs of new shoes I have, that I'll never wear). Wouldn't they be really expensive to ship though? Maybe not.

[bballarl]

This thread just confirms girls are lame and into lame things. Carry on talking in your lame girl thread.

[StubbADubb]

This thread just confirms girls are lame and into lame things. Carry on talking in your lame girl thread.

We have pillow fights when you aren't looking.



Actually shipping can be fairly cheap, though boots are a pain to ship - best to do without the box

[TeamCoachellaHellYeah]

We have pillow fights when you aren't looking.


pics or it didn't happen.

[chiapet]

Following the conversation yesterday, now I feel like I should start tackling the enormous room of clutter that is my 2nd bedroom/CLOSET. But a more responsible thing to do would maybe to be to actually clean my living room or kitchen. I am almost to the point of hiring a maid since I am never home + not working anymore.

[motionnn77]

Following the conversation yesterday, now I feel like I should start tackling the enormous room of clutter that is my 2nd bedroom/CLOSET. But a more responsible thing to do would maybe to be to actually clean my living room or kitchen. I am almost to the point of hiring a maid since I am never home + not working anymore.


I discovered "Hoarders", a reality show on cable. It has scared me into cleaning clutter! Seriously. I think I may be a mild level 1 hoarder. I've done good, I got rid of a desk top computer desk, bought organization drawers from home depot...and USED them and cleaned out a broken drawer and recycled it. Much more as well.

Hoarders: it WILL scare you into motivation.

[chiapet]

Oh, I've seen that show. It made me stop shopping so much. It's HORRIFYING. I am a hoarder definitely, but it's more in the sense of, I want new stuff because I'm bored with my old stuff, and then I'm too busy or lazy to make the old stuff go away. Right, time to clean a closet then.

[amyzzz]

I haven't seen the show, but I know I'm like that a bit. I used to hoard tights a lot.

[Courtney]

You all have significantly more edgy taste in shoes than I do. I tend to salivate over the classics, although most recently I have been lusting after these:

http://images.saksfifthavenue.com/images/products/04/525/2975/0452529751053/0452529751053R_396x528.jpg

[Courtney]

I discovered "Hoarders", a reality show on cable. It has scared me into cleaning clutter! Seriously. I think I may be a mild level 1 hoarder. I've done good, I got rid of a desk top computer desk, bought organization drawers from home depot...and USED them and cleaned out a broken drawer and recycled it. Much more as well.

Hoarders: it WILL scare you into motivation.

I am a total hoarder by nature. I think it skipped a generation because my mother and father throw out everything the second they're finished with it, but my grandmother is the ultimate pack rat. Of course, my grandmother also lived through the Great Depression, so it sort of makes sense.

I should probably watch that show.

[GeezrRckr]

http://images.saksfifthavenue.com/images/products/04/525/2975/0452529751053/0452529751053R_396x528.jpg
now those are nice.

chia...."not working anymore" what? hope all is well.

[miscorrections]

I like the fishscales but I think I'd prefer them in a non-metallic. Maybe a pale peach.

[chiapet]

chia...."not working anymore" what? hope all is well.

yes, sorry, awkward wording on my side. I meant, I'm not home much and when I'm home I'm working. Quite the opposite meaning. I am working pretty much all the time now.

[SFChrissy]

whats up with the jil scott you tube on the main page?

[motionnn77]

Oh, I've seen that show. It made me stop shopping so much. It's HORRIFYING. I am a hoarder definitely, but it's more in the sense of, I want new stuff because I'm bored with my old stuff, and then I'm too busy or lazy to make the old stuff go away. Right, time to clean a closet then.

That was me too. A lot of networking parties in my career and the constantly going and buying new stuff so I would like 'trendy'. And not getting rid of the old.

[Monklish]

whats up with the jil scott you tube on the main page?

Not Jill. Gil. Gil Scott-Heron. He's on the lineup.

[motionnn77]

I am a total hoarder by nature. I think it skipped a generation because my mother and father throw out everything the second they're finished with it, but my grandmother is the ultimate pack rat. Of course, my grandmother also lived through the Great Depression, so it sort of makes sense.

I should probably watch that show.

My parents were born after the depression, but they were both poor and yeah my grandparents lived during the depression. My parents have a very nice, clean home....but it's BIG and they have lots of crap! My mom saves clothes from when she was younger, my dad, stuff from all of his hobbies. And books?? They both save ALL OF THEIR BOOKS! It's nice and neat, yes, but they don't need them. And, I realized were I got this tendency from.

Sorry for the rant, but it's taken me so long to figure out why I have trouble organizing things at home. Now I'm on that road to recovery:blah

[minogueCOMMAk]

I'm in the process of moving and had to get rid of a large percentage of my stuff, I didnt realize I had so many shoes and clothes because they were shoved in the back of my closet.

[Glamr0ck]

My mom used to always say every time you bring something new into the house you have to throw something away... and i do... the tags and packaging ;) Yeah i'd like to get better at truly tossing the old out to make way for the new....

[lizng]

I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to hoarding. I get rid of everything unless I really need it. My boyfriend is a total pack rat, so there is a constant struggle over clutter in our house.

Is anyone watching the Oprah Oscar special? She sounds drunk.

[chiapet]

I'm in the process of moving and had to get rid of a large percentage of my stuff, I didnt realize I had so many shoes and clothes because they were shoved in the back of my closet.

This is really key for me, I think. I used to move a LOT, at least once a year, and while I kept a pretty large amount of clothes and records/cds, I didn't have a lot of other "things" that survived moves. When I moved to California, I had a studio apartment, and everything I owned fit into one room. However, now I have a big apartment and haven't moved in 7.5 years, so I haven't been forced to cull my possessions down to moving size. Moving now would be a disaster.


So, I don't feel like I need to keep things or even that I'll use them, and I don't have that notion that I shouldn't get rid of them because I'll need them someday and won't be able to buy them then. (Because, let's be real, I'll buy more stuff). HOWEVER, I get hung up on the waste of things. I don't want to just throw them away. I feel bad about the money I spent. So I convince myself that I need to sell them and recoup some of the money. I get cheap about it, when really, I should just donate the lot of it. And I never find the free time to deal with it.

I have been doing better about the shopping for the last several months though. :) I've purchased clothes but 100% of it is for work (business casual clothes, since it's been 10 years since I had to wear that sort of stuff), and I've been going to the library and using my kindle instead of buying more books.

[chairmenmeow47]

i have shoe boxes of things that people give me, concert tickets, cards, random knickknacks... i'm quite the pack rat!!! at least i'm really organized about it. i have tubs for everything.

[chiapet]

I don't think that's really being a packrat, Ivy, as long as it doesn't end up being a TON of stuff. I keep ticket stubs and mementos, but just have one file box of stuff. ;)

[IDCrisis]

Well, I've learned afew things reading the last 2 pages here tonite...
1. If I'm supposed to be paying bills online, or gee, maybe looking for a job, I shouldn't follow the shoe links you ladies post in here.
2. I am not alone in owning more shoes and boots than I could possibly ever need.
3. After witnessing "Hoarders," I wasn't the only one to panic and start grabbing things to throw out.

I do have a question about an item in one of the links posted...
What exactly makes these cutoffs worth $188???
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w18/1BROKENDOLL/GOOGLE%20IMAGES%20AND%20CLIPART/2ndsemester0391.jpg
The only thing I can figure is maybe the stomach comes with them.

[StubbADubb]

Those are some pretty disgusting shorts...lemme guess, Alexander Wang? I can't stand the over-priced distressed look. How hard is to put rips in your own jeans? We managed in high school lol.

[Ha.SK]

a lot of my old pairs of jeans i cut to make them into shorts kinda like these:

http://images5.freepeople.com/is/image/FreePeople/87P0001_41_a?$detail-item$

and i find it so crazy when i walk into a store and they're selling them for over a hundred dollars.

[chairmenmeow47]

I don't think that's really being a packrat, Ivy, as long as it doesn't end up being a TON of stuff. I keep ticket stubs and mementos, but just have one file box of stuff. ;)

this is long, sorry lol.

i have boxES of stuff. several. they take up an entire shelf in my closet. i also save much worse than that, every school assignment, every receipt (i have a bag of stuff to eventually shred one day, but then WHAT IF I NEED IT), i have a file box PACKED of important files that one day i finally got serious about cleaning out. i have a big tub of random computer and a/v cables/accessories that are probably either broken or go with something i no longer own. BUT WHAT IF I NEED IT. what if the apocolypse comes, we're all sequested in MY apartment for years to come and someone says "if i only had a cell phone charger for a samsung phone from 2000!"

i have an insane amount of shoes, including ballet shoes i haven't worn in 7 years and a pair of shitty pink heels that kill my feet too much to ever actually wear. then there's the PACKED closet of clothes. half of which don't fit me at this current time. there's a box of clothes at my parents for when i have kids and want to give them JNCOs to play with. there's clothes/jackets in THREE separate closets of my parent's house. and under my bed are boxes or clothes as well. along with my dressers....

i used to have an insane amount of makeup due to my mother giving me freebies from her department store. I DON'T EVEN WEAR MAKEUP EVER. along with lotion & perfume. i finally gave some of it to girls at my work and just threw the rest away because it was so old. my nightstand consists of hat boxes filled with all my crazy yarn hair, hat collection, excessive pairs of gloves & purses. dear god, i have a whole other tub of purses in my closet and even MORE bags in my bathroom closet.

and my storage unit... at the end of last month i had to play tetris with all the boxes i refuse to throw away. cause ya know, if my vacuum breaks i'm totally going to take the time to mail it to the manufacture who won't try to get out of fixing it at all.

it's amazing i lived out of one bedroom for three years. the movers were stunned.

[chiapet]

Haha okay. So it sounds like you are me 7 years ago before I moved into a 3 bedroom apartment. JUST WAIT, IVY. Just wait until you have more closets! :D

But it sounds like you are at least very organized about your clutter, whereas I can't be bothered and just let it spill out into each room. There is no hope for me.

[chairmenmeow47]

just be like me and buy more shoes. all those shoes make for lots of boxes of storage space =P

[lizng]

there's a box of clothes at my parents for when i have kids and want to give them JNCOs to play with.

Your future kids are very lucky.

[Monklish]

If I ever see our kids wearing JNCOs I'm beating the crap out of them.

[chairmenmeow47]

who said they were for your kids, SUCKA!

[Monklish]

Aw, cuckold face.

[chairmenmeow47]

balling eli cash

[chiapet]

Oh god. I'm pretty sure I actually do have at least one pair of JNCOs still inside my apartment. I really, really need to go through some boxes. Instead I'll spend the afternoon telling people on the internet that I should be cleaning.

I probably have most people here beat on the shoes situation. I actually have no idea how many pairs I have, but would have to guess at least 300. Probably more. I still have at least 100 in boxes from my last move which was more than half a decade ago, and I have no intention of getting rid of them. God, I love shoes. I was doomed, both my grandmothers were Imelda Marcos grade shoe hoarders, and even my dad had several dozen pairs of shoes. My brother, though straight, probably has at least 50 pairs.

Did I mention he buys shoes and sends them to me periodically? Without any degree of instigation on my part?

[chiapet]

Oh, the sweetest thing about my totally out of control shoe habit is that so many pairs are in boxes or just in random rooms through my apartment that sometimes I'll be looking for something unrelated and I'll find a really incredible pair of shoes.

Yea, that's pretty hoarder like.

[amyzzz]

Aw, cuckold face.

made me laugh :)

[motionnn77]

just be like me and buy more shoes. all those shoes make for lots of boxes of storage space =P

Maybe it's just me, but I find shoe boxes to take up too much space. I found these fabric (made out of fabric) drawers at Home Depot that come in different colors and if you move, they collapse into flat squares.

And then there would be the question of 'Where to you put your stuff that was in those drawers that are now collapsed'?

I have these huge fishnet laundry bags. They hold a ton off stuff, seriously. Last time I went up to the snow, I had to pack extra gear for my friend. In two bags, I got all kinds of extra gear: a jacket, 2 pairs of snowboard pants, 2 helmuts, 5 hats, all kinds of knee pads, gloves, et.....and still had room.

Just a suggestion.

[chiapet]

^^^ yea those are basically like athletic equipment bags, the sort that hockey players or football players would use to carry around pads.

The problem is that the shoes get scuffed when they rub against each other.

[lizng]

http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/14708_PE097727_S3.jpg (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50102529)

These things are great; I have an entire closet full of them. Boots generally don't fit, but there is just enough floor space under them for taller boots.

[chiapet]

I mostly use these which extend to about 4.5' across, along with over-the-door racks for less fancy shoes. Boots are a whole other story, I have no good way to store all my boots.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Yw-etMJjL._SS500_.jpg

[HowToDisappear]

Chia, I'm agape with wonder. 300 pairs of shoes? I own nine. One pair black pumps, one pair black high heeled strappy dress shoes, one pair Italian suede-pigskin wedge-heel dressy sandals, one pair Birkenstock sandals, two pairs Birkenstock shoes (black for work, brown for everyday), one pair Teva flip-flops, one pair Teva low hikers/walking shoes, one pair Asolo full hiking boots.

All the clothes I own fit along 47" of closet rod and in five 14x22 in drawers. My husband has three times more clothes than I do, most of it bicycle related. Of course, if I had to maintain a professional wardrobe - which I don't - it would certainly be a different story. I think I need to find a happy medium somewhere between my ultra minimalist lifestyle and a chic excess I cannot afford.

If it isn't already painfully obvious to you all, I am the anti-hoarder. Hoarding scares me A LOT.

[amyzzz]

I envy you, HtD. I might have 50 pairs of shoes, but a lot of them are lost in boxes somewhere. When I was younger, I used to buy shoes a lot -- I got fixated on Doc Martins and bought at least 12 pairs of those. I wish I could just throw stuff away! Or give it away more.

[HowToDisappear]

I always send things off to the thrift store. If I haven't worn it, used it, or even knew it existed within a reasonable amount of time, and if it is not in the category of basic personal or household need, it is gone. The kids have had quality stuff over the years which I have always given away directly (with the girls' permission of course) to friends with younger kids.

My mom complained once that I did this, and said I ought to at least sell the stuff I give away if I wasn't willing to keep it. Too much work in my book. I figure if someone needs something and you don't, why not let them have it? We've always managed to get what we needed over the years; seems only fair to pass it along.

[motionnn77]

^^^ yea those are basically like athletic equipment bags, the sort that hockey players or football players would use to carry around pads.

The problem is that the shoes get scuffed when they rub against each other.

I keep shoe covers. But I haven't moved in 7 years, so maybe I'll be kicking myself over my shoes when the time comes again to move:(

[motionnn77]

http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/14708_PE097727_S3.jpg (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50102529)

These things are great; I have an entire closet full of them. Boots generally don't fit, but there is just enough floor space under them for taller boots.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^

I have 4 of those, 3 regular size ones and a larger one that I use for lingerie that I want to take care of.

[Courtney]

Oooh ladies, last night I unpacked a box of shoes and bags that I have not seen for 3 years because they were in a storage unit I had in California. This is so exciting! It felt like being reunited with long-lost friends. Now I need about ten black tie events to go to so I can break out my collection of evening clutches and sky-high heels. Too bad every event here is casual.

[chiapet]

Haha, I feel the same way Courtney. Better yet if I even forgot I had them, it feels like I got something new (but without shopping!)

[amyzzz]

Does anyone here use makeup primer? Does it work well?

[miscorrections]

Yeah, I love makeup primer. It's good enough to wear by itself with no covering - it smoothes everything out, makes you not shiny, and makes your pores look smaller. If you do choose to wear foundation or whatever over it it'll last longer than if you were wearing foundation alone.

[guedita]

Really? I only wear foundation...maybe it's time to try something new. What's a good brand to try?

[miscorrections]

I like Smashbox Photo Finish, but it's pricey. The Makeup Forever HD Microperfecting primer is alright, and Sephora has their own primer for $18 but I haven't tried it.

[amyzzz]

I just got an email from Sephora to "pick my free gift," and Make Up For Ever is on there as a choice, so I was wondering wtf is makeup primer? (googled it)

And Corinna, I'm sold. That sounds fantastic.

[guedita]

I was given a gift card to Sephora in the Christmas of 2008 and I still haven't used it--I think I'll give their primer a try.

[Jayleigh]

I've been thinking about trying primer, but I've heard some say it's really bad for your skin... What do you think, and would you wear it to coachella with all the sweating?

[chairmenmeow47]

do any of you actually wear makeup at coachella? really?

[amyzzz]

I've never worn makeup beyond chapstick/blistex to Coachella. I might try eyeshadow this year.

edit: also, I am going to my dermatologist's office tomorrow -- maybe I'll ask them about primer.

[miscorrections]

No way would I wear primer to Coachella. I just wear sunscreen because otherwise my face would be a mess.

[guedita]

I put on my foundation each morning at Coachella last year because it has sunscreen in it but I'm sure it melted off like ten minutes later.

[Jayleigh]

Honestly, I usually wear my estee lauder daywear plus (spf 15), a light layer of their all day foundation (also w/ spf), a solid waterproof mascara and some thick spf chapstick when I'm outdoors like that...

Guess I'm just too girly, but I really dont want to subject my bare face to the blistering sun all day either.. I've got enough freckles on my nose as it is.. lol

[chairmenmeow47]

i use sunscreen on my face. i can kinda undestand using eye-shadow maybe, that probably wouldn't get as messy as other forms of makeup. other than that, i just don't see the point. i also don't see how something like mascara or foundation doesn't rub off, but i also get kinda sweaty from dancing & jumping around pretty fast so maybe that's just me.

and i hate the idea of having layers of chemicals on my face just as much as the idea of the sun ruining my face, which is why i never wear makeup period. no matter how "good" the makeup is, i can still feel it on my skin and it's gross!!!!

[amyzzz]

I wouldn't wear a foundation to coachella just because it has sunscreen in it -- doesn't that type of sunscreen sweat off? You need to wear hardcore SPF 30+ non-sweating-off type sunscreen. AND REAPPLY throughout the day. And wear a hat.

[chairmenmeow47]

yeah, i mean for me i need to reapply by the time i get in the gate. by the time i've left my hotel, sat in the car on the freeway to get to coachella, parked, walked to the entrance and waited to get in, a few hours seem to have gone by lol.

[guedita]

amy--I do, definitely, because I'm so fair. Literally my boyfriend and I reapplied our sunscreen last year every 30 minutes. I mostly wore the foundation because it's just part of my daily routine of application, since at 24 I still get zits and want to try to cover them up.

[Jayleigh]

Good idea... I just hate feeling like I have an exposed face... maybe I'll let it tan enough to match my body and go no-makeup... lol

I generally don't let it get anywhere near the sun and just use self-tanner to even it all out..

[lizng]

I usually rock a tinted moisturizer with SPF and can recommend this one: http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml;jsessionid=TK0IGF1CN4OUMCV0KQLQX0Q?i d=P210577&categoryId=C10550&shouldPaginate=true It's nice because you get a little coverage and can reapply it throughout the day.

[amyzzz]

ok, whew, I just wanted to make sure. Reapplying is key. I've also discovered I can't really wear tanks or anything that exposes my shoulders, back, or underarms because no matter how much I reapply, it's never enough and I get burned. (happened in 04 and 09)

[daxton]

I would like to cover up the dark circles under my eyes. They're not so bad when I have a little color in the summer, but in April I'll still be white as a ghost. I will probably just say fuck it, though, and just do sunscreen.

[chairmenmeow47]

i'm such a wuss, even sunscreen feels gross on my face, but it's better than nothing. i'm terrified of sun damage, i think i have some damage above my upper lip. there's this small patch of skin that looks darker than everything else, it's gross.

[miscorrections]

I have that tinted moisturizer too but at Coachella I need to be wearing like, SPF 50. I am loathe to put other things on my face since it makes post-fest breakouts that much more awul, and sunscreen already makes me break out.

[hawkingvsreeve]

I've never had to reapply sunscreen at Coachella. I guess my line of thinking is that I am in tents (intense?) most of the time so I'm ok. I've never been burned, so I must be doing something right. I'm pretty fair skinned as well.

[guedita]

I'm spending my spring break in Santa Barbara and I'm going to try and sit out in the sun (with sunscreen on) every day so that my skin gets some color and can start to prepare for being in the sun at Coachella.

[Jayleigh]

Hmm, see I tan easily so I don't really burn at all, just get like 20 shades of brown... I get these god-awful freckles right on the bridge of my nose and my cheeks though if I don't completely cover em up..

I have to use a concealor at least on my nose or i'll be a speckled egg after 3 days :)

[Jayleigh]

I'm spending my spring break in Santa Barbara and I'm going to try and sit out in the sun (with sunscreen on) every day so that my skin gets some color and can start to prepare for being in the sun at Coachella.

yeah this is what I'm doing too... just spending a few hours every week on the beach so I've got a pretty deep base tan heading in... guess I'll try to tan my face a bit as well... (eek)

[miscorrections]

I don't tan at all. I'm white, and then I turn pink/red, and then I lose approximately 30 layers of skin and then I'm back to white.

[Jayleigh]

I don't tan at all. I'm white, and then I turn pink/red, and then I lose approximately 30 layers of skin and then I'm back to white.

I bet you have really nice skin... jealous*

[hawkingvsreeve]

Nothing wrong with freckles.

[daxton]

I'm spending my spring break in Santa Barbara and I'm going to try and sit out in the sun (with sunscreen on) every day so that my skin gets some color and can start to prepare for being in the sun at Coachella.

Oh, shit, just remembered I'll be at the beach for Easter. I'll make sure to lay out.


Hmm, see I tan easily so I don't really burn at all, just get like 20 shades of brown... I get these god-awful freckles right on the bridge of my nose and my cheeks though if I don't completely cover em up..

I have to use a concealor at least on my nose or i'll be a speckled egg after 3 days :)

What's wrong with freckles? I'm sure they look fine, if not cute.


I bet you have really nice skin... jealous*

Us whiteys are usually jealous of you taneys.

[miscorrections]

I used to have a smattering of freckles across my cheeks and nose when I was younger. I still have a few but most are gone, which is kind of a pity because I think they're cute.

[Mr. Dylanja]

If any of you ladies need assistance applying or reapplying sunscreen, I'm here to help.

[amyzzz]

I'm jealous of the whitey-er whiteys.

[Jayleigh]

daxton, that's usually how it goes huh? lol

I've always been scared of getting dark freckles cause I had to have surgery to remove a freckle/mole-ish deal on my back b/c the doc wasn't sure about it... makes me nervous

...plus my momma pokes fun at me :( haha

[algunz]

Izzy has freckles across the bridge of her nose, and I so worry about her skin. It seems the damage while young is the worst in the long run.

[daxton]

I'm jealous of the whitey-er whiteys.

I've gotten over being jealous of people that can tan. Now I'm jealous of fair skinned girls who haven't damaged their skin like I have. My mom tried to warn me but I was such a bad ass.

[Jayleigh]

Izzy has freckles across the bridge of her nose, and I so worry about her skin. It seems the damage while young is the worst in the long run.

Yep, I basically lived in the sun when I was little, I'd just get really dark so my mom never thought much of it.

I'd make sure to keep sunscreen on her even if she just tans without burning... I've always had to have my freckles and one or two small moles checked.

[amyzzz]

I left my girl at a pool party for a birthday, advised the mom to reapply sunscreen to my daughter's face - which of course she did NOT do - and now my girl has these freckles across her nose. Adorable for now, but worrying for later. Lesson learned.